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1charl08
Edited: Mar 23, 2016, 7:50 pm

Magnum photographer Harry Gruyaert's images form the basis for the covers for the new Penguin translations of Georges Simenon.



Georges Simenon's Maigret gets a new look (Guardian)
http://gu.com/p/4evnv?

2charl08
Edited: Apr 7, 2016, 6:27 pm



Total read 114

January 39

Reckless: My life ( US, F)
The Diary of Helena Morley (Brazil, F)
Ms Marvel: No Normal (US, M & M)
Dotter of her Father's Eyes (UK, F & M)
Leaving Berlin (US, M)
Pascali's Island (UK, M) BAC
Jonah's Gourd Vine (US, F)
Crusoe’s Daughter (UK, F)
Southland (US, F)
Electric Michelangelo (UK, F)

Tangled (Canada, F)
Strange Meeting (UK, F)
The Poet's Tale : Chaucer and the Year that made the Canterbury Tales (US, M)
Killing and Dying (US, M)
Roger Casement (UK, M)
Black Sky Black Sea (Turkey, M)
Sidney Chambers and the Perils of the Night (UK, M)
The Tin Can Tree (US, F)
A Commonplace Killing (UK, F)
Ru (Canada, F)

Voices from the Asylum (UK, M)
Fifty-Two Pick up ( US, M)
Thirteen Ways of Looking (Ireland, M)
Ms Marvel: Generation Why (US, M) x3
Grey Souls (France, M)
The Whispering City) (France/ Germany, Fx2)
Haweswater (UK, F)
Sally Heathcote Suffragette (UK, Fx2 M)
The Sign of Fear (UK, M )
What's bred in the Bone (Canada, M)

Under the Tripoli Sky (Libya/France, M)
The People on Privilege Hill (UK, F)
Gull (UK, M )
In Search of Mary: The Mother of all Journeys (UK, F)
The St Fiacre Affair (France, M)
Five days at Memorial (US, F)
Sea Lovers (US, F )
Me and Earl and the Dying Girl (US, M)
Confession of the Lioness (Mozambique, M )

Feb 36
White Sky Black Ice (US, M)
City of Lies: love sex, death and the search for truth in Tehran (UK (Iran?!), F)
Zoli (Ireland, M )
Tokyo Decadence (Japan, M)
The Old Ways (UK, M )
True Story: the life and death of my brother (Canada, F )
Noir: a collection of crime comics ( Too many authors to be useful info
Love Me Back (US, F)
Between Summer's Longing and Winter's End (Sweden, M)
Kamchatka (Argentina, M)

On Elizabeth Bishop (Ireland, M)
Bandits (US, M)
Swimming Studies (Canada, F )
The Book of Unknown Americans (US, F)
Marbles: mania, depression, Michelangelo and me (US, F)
The Arab of the Future (France, M)
The Mussel Feast (Germany, F)
Félicie (Belgium, M)
The Reader on the 6.27 (France, M)
News from Berlin (The Netherlands, M)

The Folded Earth (India, F)
The Girl Who Wasn't There (Germany, M)
The South (Ireland, M)
At the Chime of the City Clock (UK, M)
Finding George Orwell in Burma (US, F)
Tabula Rasa (UK, F)
Girl waits with Gun (US, F)
On Helwig Street (US, M )
Two Brothers (Brazil, M)
Bitter Greens (Australia, F)

The Noise of Time (UK, M)
Couch Fiction (UK, F)
Pronto ( US, M)
Unfaithfully Yours (UK, M)
Four Nights with the Duke (US, F)
Footnotes in Gaza (US, M)

March 29

Rush, Oh! (Australia, F)
The Blessing Way (US, M)
Coventry (Canada, F)
Frog (China, M)
Exposure (UK, F)
Reading Chekhov (US, F)
In Praise of Lies (Brazil, F)
The Prison Book Club (Canada, F)
The First Person and Other Stories (UK, F)
The Drowned Detective (Ireland, M)

The Book of Memory (Zimbabwe, F)
Phantoms on the Bookshelves (France, M)
A Dictionary of Mutual Understanding (UK, F)
White Mughals (UK, M)
The Lady with the Black Umbrella ( Canada, F)
Love Notes for Freddie (UK, F)
Inconvenient People: lunacy, liberty and the mad-doctors (UK, F)
Westmorland Alone (UK, M)
A Burnable Book (US, M)
Cecile is dead (Belgium, M)

The Hero's Walk (Canada, F)
The Ballroom (UK, F)
Gorsky (Serbia, F)
The Hanged Man of St Pholien (Belgium, M)
NeuroTribes ( US, M )
The Silent Woman: Sylvia Plath & Ted Hughes (US, F)
A Long way to a Small angry planet (US, F)
Songlines (UK, M)
The Story of My Teeth (Mexico, F)

April 10

Girl at War (US, F)
Mr Dixon Disappears (UK, M )
Signed, Picpus (Belgium, M )
Sweetland (Canada, M)
My American Duchess (US, F)
A Manual for Cleaning Women (US, F)
The Beauty of the husband (Canada, F)
Missing Out : in praise of the unlived life (UK, M)
Griffin and Sabine (Canada, M)
The Portable Veblen (US, F)

April Stats
US & Canada 7 Europe 3 (UK 2)
F 5 M 5
Fiction 8 Poetry 1 Non-Fiction 1
Library 5 Random 2nd hand purchase to be recycled straight back 1 Digital 4

March Stats
Australia 1, US & Canada 10, China 1, Europe 14 (UK 9), Brazil 1, Zimbabwe 1, Mexico 1
F 18 M 11
Fiction 21 Non-fiction 8
Library 18 own 5 Digital 5 someone else's 1

Feb Stats
US & Canada 13, Europe 16 (UK 7), Japan 1, Latin America 3, India 1, Australia 1
M 21* F 15 (1 anthology multiple authors not included.)
Fiction 25, Non-fiction 11
Digital 3, Library 31, ER 1, Random 1

JAN STATS
Regions: US & Canada 19, Latin America 1, Europe 20 (UK 18)*, Africa 2
Gender: F 21 M 25*
Fiction: 31 Non-fiction 8 (Memoir, Biography, history, travel, politics)
Library: 31 TBR 3 Digital 3 Random 2

*5 books with two or three authors

3charl08
Edited: Mar 23, 2016, 7:08 pm

Books acquired (mostly to keep an eye on the books bought)

Total acquired: 16 Total read:3 (oh dear!)

Ru gift - read
How to create the perfect wife gift
Reading Chekhov gift - read

FEB
Middlemarch Voucher plus purchase.
The Carhullan Army
The Man Who Invented History
The Township Plays
Death and the King's Horsemen
Day (All Oxfam)
The Beautiful Things that Heaven Bears
Sunday at the pool in Kigali
The Tenant of Wildfell Hall
Coventry Online purchase Read
Shylock Is My name Gift from Beth!
The Prison Book Club Birthday haul - Read
The Canterbury Tales currently reading

March
From Ashes into Light ER book
Afterimage gift from Lori
The Handmaid's Tale
A Month in the Country read already - loved the edition

Swimming the Thames (from the comfort of my local swimming pool)


4charl08
Edited: Apr 5, 2016, 3:39 pm

American / British /Canadian challenges books read

January
AAC Anne Tyler The Tin Can Tree
BAC Barry Unsworth Pascali's Island.
Susan Hill Strange Meeting
CAC Kim Thúy Ru
Robertson Davies What's bred in the Bone

February
AAC Richard Russo On Helwig Street (Read)
BAC Agatha Christie biography and White Mughals William Dalrymple read
CAC The Collected Stephen Leacock Read a couple of articles, decided it wasn't for me.
True story the life and death of my brother by Helen Humphreys (Read)

March
AAC Jane Smiley didn't fit this in - will have to try harder.
BAC Ali Smith The Firstperson and other stories Read
CAC Farley Mowat My Father's Son and Anita Rau Badami The Hero's Walk (Read)

April
AAC
BAC Middlemarch
CAC The Handmaid's Tale and Sweetland Read

5PaulCranswick
Mar 23, 2016, 7:43 pm

I love those Simenon covers, Charlotte. I was musing upon the possibility of collecting them all actually because there is always a feeling with Maigret, with different translated versions, that you are reading the same book again only with a different title and I would be great to read them methodically.

Happy new thread, my dear.

6msf59
Mar 23, 2016, 7:46 pm

Happy New Thread, Charlotte! Yah, for the Simenon covers!

7BLBera
Edited: Mar 23, 2016, 8:38 pm

Happy new thread, Charlotte. From your last thread, A Burnable Book sounds good. I think I have a copy around here...

I'll watch for your comments on The Hero's Walk, Badami is one I want to read this year.

The Simenon covers are...not sure.

8charl08
Mar 23, 2016, 9:38 pm

>5 PaulCranswick: They're striking aren't they Paul.

>6 msf59: Thanks Mark.

>7 BLBera: A Burnable Book was full of period detail - I only read at the end of the book in a historical note that the author was a professor of medieval history. Explained the detail - geekily I loved the articles and other references for further reading. Glad I didn't have to live in London then. 21st-century metropolis was dirty enough for me.

9Copperskye
Mar 23, 2016, 9:47 pm

Hi Charlotte, I'm catching up and wanted to say I loved your photos from your tax refund holiday! Just lovely.

10charl08
Edited: Mar 23, 2016, 10:24 pm

I just saw a report about the road repairs taking ages in the Lakes after the floods this year. Passed me by entirely.



11katiekrug
Mar 23, 2016, 10:48 pm

Happy new thread, Charlotte!

12lit_chick
Mar 24, 2016, 3:44 am

Happy new thread back to you, Charlotte! Those photos look very much like the Okanagan Valley.

13vancouverdeb
Mar 24, 2016, 5:01 am

Happy New Thread! Thanks for the tip. I'll look on you tube for HRH /ITV for err shhh The Queen at Ninety. :)

14Ameise1
Mar 24, 2016, 5:37 am

Congrats on your shiny new thread, Charlotte. I had the Simenon 'fever' when I was mid twenty. Couldn't stop reading him.
I'll be soon on my way to the library getting some books.

15cbl_tn
Mar 24, 2016, 6:08 am

Happy new thread! I love the Simenon covers. The one with the snow catches my eye even though it isn't as bright as the other covers. If A Crime in Holland is the one I think it is, the cover photo doesn't have anything to do with the plot!

16susanj67
Mar 24, 2016, 7:06 am

Happy new thread, Charlotte :-)

17charl08
Edited: Mar 24, 2016, 7:22 am

>11 katiekrug: Thanks Katie. Hope you're getting a break for Easter.

>12 lit_chick: Timing is everything Nancy. I've never been to the Okanagan valley but if they're like the Lake District I'll add it to the wishlist.

>14 Ameise1: Thanks Barbara. I wonder what the Maigrets you read looked like?

18charl08
Mar 24, 2016, 7:24 am

>15 cbl_tn: Thanks Carrie. I think it's all about the period atmosphere with these covers. Cecile is Dead had nothing to do with the cover chosen.

>16 susanj67: Thanks Susan. Enjoy your break!

19jnwelch
Mar 24, 2016, 8:31 am

Congratulations on the new thread, Charlotte. I love the Penguins and the penguins. It looks like you live in a beautiful area.

20charl08
Edited: Mar 24, 2016, 9:00 am

>19 jnwelch: I wish I did live in the Lake District Joe. Like a lot of places, so many people like me want to live (or have a second home) there that prices are crazy. I'm about 70 miles away - probably nothing in US terms, but the difference between flat arable land and hill farming. And at the moment, the wonderful smell of manure everywhere!



I finished The Hero's Walk - what a wonderful book. Richly layered account of Sripathi's family, his fractious mother, Ammayya, calm wife, Nirmala, endlessly hopeful sister Putti and his son Arun, who studies social work but is increasingly spending his time as a protestor and organiser for social and environmental reform. His daughter, Maya, is cut off from by her father when she chooses to marry a Canadian. The coastal town Toturpuram seems as much a character as the family: slightly seedy, struggling with terrible heat waves and then uncontrollable monsoon rains.
His grandmother told him gallant tales if heroism and cunning and wit and honour; of Arjana the great archer; of King Harishchandra, whose honesty shook even the heavens; of Bisham of the terrible oath; and of Bhageerathi, who persuaded wild and whimsical Ganga to flow down as a river and wash over the ashes of his thousand brothers....While the young Sripathi adored his grandmother's stories, richly trimmed with Sanskrit versesfrom the Mahabharata or the Ramadan, a dread grew within him that he would never be able to do the things she expected of him.

21Crazymamie
Mar 24, 2016, 9:01 am

Happy new thread, Charlotte! And thank you for the answering post and the link in regards to my Simenon query on your previous thread.

22charl08
Mar 24, 2016, 9:12 am

No worries Mamie - and thanks. Apparently, some people think Simenon writes like Chekhov. Intriguing.

23Carmenere
Mar 24, 2016, 9:14 am

Happy new thread , Charlotte! No sight of Penguins in st. Martin. I better stay and check a little further.

24msf59
Mar 24, 2016, 9:15 am

Hi, Charlotte! Good review of The Hero's Walk. I was not planning on reading Badami this month but you sure sparked an interest. Your job is done.

25charl08
Mar 24, 2016, 9:21 am

>23 Carmenere: Take all the time you need! Lol.

>24 msf59: She writes beautifully Mark.

Though it makes me really want to go to India. Between her and the lovely book I read last year for the women's fiction prize, which has completely escaped my mind. Argh. (Checked my list) Sleeping on Jupiter. Phew, the system works.

26BLBera
Mar 24, 2016, 10:34 am

Great comments on THe Hero's Walk, Charlotte. I already own a copy. I'll have to move it up in the pile. Badami has been on my list for a while. I do want to read her this year, and this one sounds like a good place to start.

27PaulCranswick
Mar 24, 2016, 10:49 am

When I worked at Sellafield many moons ago I didn't yet have a driving licence (result of too much cycle racing, I suppose, I only got my driving licence at 26) and I used to get a lift up with my senior from Bury up through Cumbria and its delightful scenery and onto Windscale. I could enjoy the scenery while Brian, my immediate superior, had to negotiate tricky roads. Looking at the lakes in >10 charl08: how are you going to worry about the state of the roads. xx

28katiekrug
Mar 24, 2016, 10:56 am

The Hero's Walk sounds good - I'll have to look for it.

Nope, we don't get a break for Easter, but next weekend is my reading retreat with Julia and Roberta and then I'm taking a couple of days off, so I have that to look forward to!

29charl08
Mar 24, 2016, 11:12 am

>26 BLBera: I hope you like it Beth. The CAC enthusiasm for Badami was good to read.

>27 PaulCranswick: Hi Paul.
Did you used to take the A591?



(The report I watched on the local news discussed how Tourism was Down! I wondered how many other people were like me and thinking "hurrah! See me walk in the Lakes at every opportunity this year")

30PaulCranswick
Mar 24, 2016, 11:15 am

>29 charl08: I would have been happy to read Badami this month but simply couldn't get any of her books!

I honestly cannot remember which road we used to use to drive "over the tops" as I wasn't at the wheel but singing along to Stevie Wonder or Carlos Santana (I don't remember Brian having played anything else). Don't see how we would make haste on that road nowadays.

31charl08
Mar 24, 2016, 12:21 pm

>30 PaulCranswick: I like the sound of your road trip with Stevie Wonder.

Reading A Manual for Cleaning Women instead of hoovering.
All down the beach, from the town of Zihuatanejo, was a faint dazzle and dance of tiny green light. Fireflies, neon lime-green. Village girls placed them in their hair when they walked at dusk, strolling in groups of twos or threes. Some of the girls scattered the insects through their hair, others arranged them into emerald tiaras.

32RidgewayGirl
Mar 24, 2016, 12:23 pm

>20 charl08: And at the moment, the wonderful smell of manure everywhere!

In Germany, we call it Landluft, or "country air."

33cbl_tn
Mar 24, 2016, 12:29 pm

I picked up a library copy of The Hero's Walk last week and I'm reallybhoping I can squeeze it in this month.

34charl08
Mar 24, 2016, 1:01 pm

>32 RidgewayGirl: I'd complain more, but I love potato crisps and we are big in the potato world (oh, the glamour).

>33 cbl_tn: I loved it Carrie - hope you get the time to read it. It's not the shortest book.

35FAMeulstee
Mar 24, 2016, 1:22 pm

Happy new thread!

>29 charl08: That road doesn't look good, Charlotte, but in this state it will probably keep some tourists away ;-)

36charl08
Mar 24, 2016, 2:22 pm

>35 FAMeulstee: I think the main worry seems to be coach parties Anita. As it was, there was a bit in the middle of the walk was so busy people stopped saying hello to each other, which I don't much like. My mum has a Significant Birthday coming up so might try and persuade her to think of hiring a place with a view for a party. If I know her we'll end up in the church hall, which has an alcohol ban (but very good cake)!

37Helenliz
Mar 24, 2016, 3:06 pm

>20 charl08:, >32 RidgewayGirl:, Oh yes, air so think you could cut it. My grandad grew up on a farm and his sign off was always "Night, Night, Sleep tight, don't be late in the morning, bring your hoe, (and this bit in chorus) we're going muck spreading"
Nope, still never actually been muck spreading.

>36 charl08: hmm, alcohol or cake. Bit of a dilemma that one, akin to the daddy or chips question.

38charl08
Mar 24, 2016, 4:37 pm

>37 Helenliz: It is a dilemma. One of the ladies does awesome cream teas, so that is also an option.

Now I really want a scone.

39susanj67
Edited: Mar 24, 2016, 4:49 pm

40Helenliz
Mar 24, 2016, 4:52 pm

The next question, of course, is cream or jam on the scone first... In some quarters that can get as heated as the milk or tea in the cup first debate.

41jnwelch
Mar 24, 2016, 6:12 pm

Happy New Thread, Charlotte.

Roberta, Ellen and I are soon doing a mini-group read of A Manual for Cleaning Women (all invited; it's probably bigger than that already), so you may want to stop by.

42charl08
Edited: Mar 24, 2016, 6:40 pm

>39 susanj67: Wow. Cream and jam and everything.

>40 Helenliz: I'm happy so long as they're fresh. Whatever floats someone else's boat!

>41 jnwelch: Thanks Joe. I've been, I've posted, I wouldn't want to brag but I may have conquered... (no, I've checked, according to the kindle I've not quite got to the 50% mark yet).

I'm reading The Ballroom. The psychiatrist writes, c1911...
...excessive reading has been shown to be dangerous for the female mind... While a little light reading is fine, breakdown follows when woman goes against her nature...

43thornton37814
Mar 24, 2016, 9:11 pm

Trying to catch up here! You've been quite busy since the last chance I had to check in.

44PaulCranswick
Mar 24, 2016, 10:39 pm

Have a wonderful Easter.



45rretzler
Mar 25, 2016, 12:39 am

>42 charl08: Hmmm...that psychiatrist may be correct - I've been reading for about 50 years, and I'm not totally convinced that I'm mentally balanced...

46vancouverdeb
Mar 25, 2016, 12:44 am

So glad you enjoyed The Hero's Walk . I really loved it too. I've read 4 books by Anita Rau Badami and really enjoyed them all.

47charl08
Edited: Mar 25, 2016, 2:26 am

>43 thornton37814: Thanks for stopping by. Yes, unexpected travel plus beans and books...

>44 PaulCranswick: Thanks Paul. I'm afraid I'm mostly about the chocolate, but wishes to everyone for whom this is a big festival (and those who like the holiday and everyone in between!)

>45 rretzler: You and me both. The book includes a character losing her grip when her books are taken away and it was all a bit easy to imagine.

>46 vancouverdeb: I'll look out for her other books Deborah. How do you think she ranks compared to the author of Waiting on Jupiter?

48elkiedee
Mar 25, 2016, 2:30 am

>47 charl08: Eeeek at books being taken away!

49charl08
Edited: Mar 25, 2016, 8:21 am

>42 charl08: The Ballroom I wasn't sure about this book until about half way through when I found I couldn't put it down and was rather keen to find out what would happen to the characters. Surely the author wouldn't... It would be too cruel not to...

Using three narratives from a large, early 20c institution a doctor and a male and female patient she explores a lightly fictionalised institution in 1911. She takes ideas about eugenics, the links between madness and poverty, as well as sexualities, and creates a powerful story of imprisonment and friendship. I'm uncomfortable though with the doctor's storyline: suppressed homosexuality has been used too often as the bogeyman for it to be used lightly, and I wasn't convinced by the sudden turn the doctor made in the third act.

50PaulCranswick
Mar 25, 2016, 4:52 am

>47 charl08: I was unsure about the crosses and I am not a Christian these days but I will gladly celebrate the holidays and share with you the chocoalte

51ctpress
Mar 25, 2016, 6:16 am

#10 - Ah, the Lake District. Remember going there years ago and always wanted to go back for a hike. Wonderful way to spend a tax return, Charlotte. Happy Easter.

52Ameise1
Mar 25, 2016, 6:52 am

Charlotte, I wish you a fabulous weekend.

53DianaNL
Mar 25, 2016, 7:10 am

54Helenliz
Mar 25, 2016, 7:23 am

I don't know about you, but it's fabulous weather here today, so the garden is going to take a right going at. Grand plans to get the greenhouse cleared ready for salad stuffs, the strawberries moved to their new patch, asparagus & rhubarb in and at least think about what else I'm going to grow (spuds, carrots & parsnips on the potential list so far). That way I'll rely deserve that giant chocolate egg my darling will give me*.

* I'm trying to adopt a positive mental attitude in order to improve my mood and stress levels. This bit may be a step too far...

55EBT1002
Mar 25, 2016, 1:45 pm

Well, you've got me all excited about trying a Maigret. It appears that the first one is Maigret and the Enigmatic Lett which is a bit hard to find. Not at the library. Not easily available from Amazon or Book Depository. I did find a used copy available via Amazon. So, OCD-read-in-order soul that I am, I have ordered it.

The new Penguin editions are really lovely.

56charl08
Mar 25, 2016, 2:07 pm

>50 PaulCranswick: Share the chocolate?! Oh Paul, now I *am* offended... (wicked laughter!) I suppose I could manage a little bit? A square or two? Ha!

>51 ctpress: It's a wonderful place and I'd recommend it for anyone who likes a beautiful view.

>52 Ameise1: Those are pretty eggs! My gran would dye eggs with veggie dyes and then we'd roll them down a little hill. Nothing as spectacular as those though.

>53 DianaNL: Such a cute rabbit!

>54 Helenliz: That sounds very impressive! My work has met my mother's approval today so I'm resting on my laurels (although bragging now three new beans have broken the surface).

And of course, you Totally Deserve those chocolate eggs.

>55 EBT1002: Ellen, I'm impressed with the researching. I might admit at this point that I don't really know which ones I've read. I seem to have missed the order thing. Not sure what that says about me as a reader...

57EBT1002
Mar 25, 2016, 2:27 pm

"Not sure what that says about me as a reader..."
Charl, no one, and I mean no one is going to question your reader credentials. I noticed that you said the Maigret novels don't really build on one another so the reading in order seems, well, just a symptom of my silliness.

58BLBera
Mar 25, 2016, 4:31 pm

I loved the quote from The Ballroom - so, have you noticed any ill effects from all that "excessive reading"?

59charl08
Mar 25, 2016, 6:36 pm

>57 EBT1002: Thanks for the reassurance. I just seem to be missing the gene. I think it's connected to years of charity shop buying, where you take what you can get. I realise I quite often deliberately miss first episodes of programmes. I can't stand Basil Exposition. Get with the story already, I'll figure the rest out.

>58 BLBera: I'm not sure. If I ever feel I have reached 'excessive levels' of reading, I will report back! :-)

60Chatterbox
Mar 25, 2016, 10:59 pm

Ordered some of those Maigrets when Amazon UK had them for sale on Kindle special... :-)

61LovingLit
Mar 25, 2016, 11:05 pm

>29 charl08: woah!

I never read any of the Maigret novels, the one that I did buy, I ended up mistaking for a library book and sending it down the chute, never to be seen again!

62rretzler
Mar 26, 2016, 12:26 am

>55 EBT1002: Ellen, I'm the same way...I have to start at the beginning. Although I must admit when I really want to read a series, and just can't find the book, I will some times skip around, but it really kills me to do it.

63nittnut
Mar 26, 2016, 12:50 am

Happy Easter weekend!

64charl08
Mar 26, 2016, 5:53 am

>60 Chatterbox: I couldn't resist that sale either Suzanne!

>61 LovingLit: Oh no! I have in the past changed my mind about a book and wiggled it out of the library slot again (no shame).

>62 rretzler: I think I see some of the assumed knowledge as part of the mystery. And I like mysteries!

>63 nittnut: And to you Jenn. Will you be seeking answers at the beach over the break?

65charl08
Mar 26, 2016, 6:04 am

Neurotribes has reached the bit where guys in the 50s and 60s are innovating computer networks. This is just a fascinating book.

66susanj67
Mar 26, 2016, 7:05 am

Charlotte, I'm wondering now whether it will still be at the library next time I go...

67charl08
Mar 26, 2016, 7:30 am

Ooh. Tough decisions Susan!

68vancouverdeb
Mar 26, 2016, 8:54 am

>47 charl08: A tough question, Charlotte, how do I think Anuradha Roy of The Folded Earth and Sleeping on Jupiter ranks with Anita Rau Badami, who has written four books that I have read. Personally I think that Anita Rau Badami writes more coherent plots and more accessible reads for the less intent reader. When I was reading The Folded Earth I kept waiting for the plot to go somewhere and it seemed to develop characters and numerous small stories , but it never coalesced for me. I was a bit frustrated by it. I enjoyed Sleeping on Jupiter, but again at times I felt the plot got a little lost. Difficult to say. What about you? One of my favourite books about India was The Sari Shop by Rupa Bajwa. It was not about a " Sari Shop' really, but much more about the people employed there and the difficult lives that they led. It was quite concise and hard hitting. I think it may have won the Orange Prize back in 2004?

69charl08
Mar 26, 2016, 9:33 am

>68 vancouverdeb: I think I agree about the plot accessibility - but I did like the varied characters in Buried on Jupiter whereas I would have liked to have had more from other people in Badami's novel e.g. Maya, the daughter's perspective in Vancouver. Not that it wasn't a great read anyway. So basically I can't decide!

70charl08
Edited: Mar 30, 2016, 7:16 pm

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"...does attempt, on occasion, to offer critiques of the cruder versions of Hindu nationalism."


Stars, Cars and Crystal Meth by Jack Sutherland reviewed by Sam Leith
"the story of Sutherland's eventual, hair-raising descent into depravity with the (main) drugs of choice being strong weed, GHB, crystal meth and shagging. "

71charl08
Edited: Mar 26, 2016, 11:18 am

Guardian Reviews (fiction)


Hot Milk by Deborah Levy reviewed by Alex Clark
"Levy has prodded at the intersections between gender, identity, language and desire, constantly cocking her ear to hear stories of Displacement, exile and return. Hot Milk with its disrupted familial relationships, undercurrent of violence, sexual blind alleys and fizzing combination of the fantastical and the mundane, is exactly that kind of story."


Before the War by Fay Weldon reviewed by Carol Birch
" Weldon takes huge pleasure in the god-like aspects of authorship..."


Legoland by Gerard Woodward reviewed by Oona Frawley
"...these narratives are meticulously designed, building into dazzling and surprising structures."


Trencherman by Eben Venter reviewed by Patrick Flanery
"...we might hear an echo of... July's People, also a speculative fiction about a future South Africa thrown into civil war."
I was interested until July's People was mentioned. Oof that was a Hard Book.


The Trees by Ali Shaw reviewed by Sarah Moss
"...as much Narnia as The Road... because the moral symbolism becomes increasingly explicit as the quest goes on."

And finally...
War and Peace made of felt, anyone?
http://gu.com/p/4hvtq?

72cbl_tn
Mar 26, 2016, 10:44 am

I took a couple of BBs from this week's Guardian reviews - the Rupert Shortt and Juliet Nicolson.

73charl08
Edited: Mar 26, 2016, 11:19 am

I really like the sound of Legoland. And Hot Milk.

74msf59
Mar 26, 2016, 11:35 am

Happy Saturday, Charlotte! Thanks for the Guardian reviews. I think I managed to avoid any BBs, this time around.

75charl08
Mar 26, 2016, 12:00 pm

You don't want to read Legoland? Oh no... it sounded like your bag. But I'll let you off!

Legoland by Gerard Woodward review – revelling in the possibilities of the short story
http://gu.com/p/4hkpx?

76BLBera
Mar 26, 2016, 12:18 pm

Thanks for the reviews, Charlotte. I love the covers of the Shaw and Nicholson books. I loved July's People, so may look for Trencherman. Hot Milk and The Trees also sound promising. Weldon has been hit and miss with me, so that one is a maybe.

77charl08
Mar 26, 2016, 1:07 pm

I'm tempted by the Nicholson book too Beth. I'm not a Weldon fan, so won't be looking for that,

78RidgewayGirl
Mar 26, 2016, 2:25 pm

Gerard Woodward is an excellent writer. I'd jump on Legoland, but I have another of his on my tbr.

79charl08
Mar 26, 2016, 5:45 pm

Good to hear that - the new one is in my local branch, so I'll see if it's still there after the bank holiday.

80elkiedee
Mar 26, 2016, 7:47 pm

The felt War and Peace looks interesting - War and Peace is my library book group book next month. I did read it many years ago, but at the moment I'm just not reading enough - I didn't even read page 1 of the very short Of Mice and Men for this month's discussion.

81vancouverdeb
Mar 26, 2016, 8:19 pm

Hmm - nothing really grabs me from this weeks Guardian Reviews. I don't recall anything grabbing me from own newspapers today either . Maybe a good thing! :)

82weird_O
Mar 26, 2016, 10:30 pm




For a Happy Easter, eat ya a couple a Peeps! You know you want to… Made right here in the Lehigh Valley of Pennsylvania. Weird, huh?

83Carmenere
Mar 27, 2016, 1:23 am


Happy EASter, Charlotte!

84Deern
Mar 27, 2016, 5:59 am

Happy Easter, Charlotte! Trying to avoid BBs after just having bought a couple of new books.

Still must get through my first Simenon, Il Borgomastro di Furnes, which isn't a Maigret and I don't think it's a mystery either. Very slow going, but a listed 1001 in Italy..

85charl08
Mar 27, 2016, 6:04 am

>80 elkiedee: The felt looks like fun to me - and might well take less time.

>81 vancouverdeb: You had a narrow escape there Deborah. There was a long article on Maigret if that changes anything?!

>82 weird_O: Those guys are kind of creeping me out. Yikes.

86charl08
Edited: Mar 27, 2016, 9:24 am

>83 Carmenere: Thanks Lynda. I have eaten too much chocolate. Mission accomplished.

>84 Deern: Thanks Natalie. I love the sound of your Easter menu. Hope the Simenon improves. I've not come across that one. I did read one recently where I expected Maigret until almost the end, when I realised he wrote books without the detective. D'oh.

87msf59
Mar 27, 2016, 7:55 am

Happy Sunday and Happy Easter, Charlotte! Hope you are content, with all that chocolate in your belly. Grins...

Okay, you did get me with "Legoland". It does sound good. Your job is done!

88susanj67
Mar 27, 2016, 8:35 am

Happy Easter, Charlotte :-) I've wishlisted the Nicolson one (although the title sounds like it's another Mitford book!) and the one about India. The Serengeti one isn't showing up in the library catalogue yet, but I'll get it when I see it.

89charl08
Mar 27, 2016, 9:27 am

>87 msf59: Ha! I thought you might be persuaded on that one. I'll report back if it's available in the library.

>88 susanj67: I had no idea she was related to such a fancy literary family, Susan. Sometimes there seems to be a writing gene?

90susanj67
Mar 27, 2016, 9:54 am

>89 charl08: Or contacts in the publishing industry...I'm not thinking of her here, as I've read and enjoyed her books, but there are some people who I'm sure wouldn't have got a second look had it not been for their famous parents. (A certain Times writer springs to mind).

91charl08
Mar 27, 2016, 10:14 am

That reminds me of a session I went to on 'careers after your PhD'.

A young writer who had written a popular history bestseller was asked to speak. At the q & a, she gave impressive accounts of how she wrote the book alongside writing up her thesis, problems of combining writing and promotion and the difficult second book.

How did she meet her agent and get the publishing deal? Oh, I was just talking to an agent at a friend's party... (!!)

92Crazymamie
Mar 27, 2016, 10:15 am



Oh! A nice batch from the Guardian reviews! I like the sounds of Hot Milk and The Trees, and I love the cover of the latter. Legoland also sounds good.

Happy Easter, Charlotte. May your day be filled with chocolate!

93scaifea
Mar 27, 2016, 10:27 am

Happy new (sort of) thread, Charlotte!

94charl08
Mar 27, 2016, 10:35 am

>92 Crazymamie: I love that penguin Mamie! Thanks for the good wishes too.

95charl08
Mar 27, 2016, 10:35 am

>93 scaifea: Thanks Amber.

96lkernagh
Mar 27, 2016, 11:24 am

Good grief, how did I miss posting happy new thread wishes for you? A bit late but 'officially' reporting in now. ;-)

97mdoris
Mar 27, 2016, 12:42 pm

Wishing you a wonderful day!

98charl08
Mar 27, 2016, 4:35 pm

>96 lkernagh: All visits and greetings welcome. :-)

>97 mdoris: Super cute picture! Thanks.

99charl08
Edited: Mar 27, 2016, 5:18 pm

Gorsky (read as part of the long list women's fiction prize)



I'm not at all sure of this book. It riffs off The Great Gatsby (although whether I would have worked that out by myself I'm not sure) - Gorsky is Gatsby, rich Russian oligarch desiring Natalie, narrated by Nick, impoverished Serbian student turned London bookseller. There's a beautiful character called Daisy, and an awe-inspiring show of wealth. I was gripped by two thirds in but probably not for the stylistic clever clever stuff going on here.
If I belonged anywhere, it was, vaguely,among the uprooted bohemian types eking out a living in jobs similar to mine, a kind of protracted adolescence possible only in a city where no one knows you and you don't care about anyone's judgement. They were as likely to be English as Japanese or Armenian, but they obsessed about their espressos more than about their nationality. They shared ramshackle houses in places like Walthamstow or Peckham, where the main streets were lined with African markets, fried chicken vendors and laptop repair shops, but, unlike here in Chelski, the realm of extreme wealth, they frequented cafes where people sat and talked without looking around for better or more important company...

I wouldn't expect this to go much further.

100charl08
Edited: Mar 27, 2016, 5:27 pm

Updated women's fiction prize longlist

Kate Atkinson: A God in Ruins waiting at the library

Shirley Barrett: Rush Oh!

Cynthia Bond: Ruby

Geraldine Brooks: The Secret Chord

Becky Chambers: The Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet

Jackie Copleton: A Dictionary of Mutual Understanding

Rachel Elliott: Whispers Through a Megaphone on order at the library

Anne Enright: The Green Road

Petina Gappah: The Book of Memory

Vesna Goldsworthy: Gorsky

Clio Gray: The Anatomist’s Dream

Melissa Harrison: At Hawthorn Time

Attica Locke: Pleasantville

Lisa McInerney: The Glorious Heresies

Elizabeth McKenzie: The Portable Veblen currently reading

Sara Nović: Girl at War

Julia Rochester: The House at the Edge of the World

Hannah Rothschild: The Improbability of Love

Elizabeth Strout: My Name is Lucy Barton ordered at the library

Hanya Yanagihara A Little Life

Nothing that has dramatically won me over yet from thinking that The Green Road should probably win...

101rretzler
Mar 27, 2016, 6:38 pm

>64 charl08: Yes, I guess that does enhance the mystery and I too LOVE a mystery.

102katiekrug
Mar 27, 2016, 7:02 pm

I have Gorsky out from the library, but you're not making me rush to get to it....

103charl08
Edited: Mar 27, 2016, 7:17 pm

>101 rretzler: I'm currently working through Maigret cases but will always happily take a mystery recommendation...

>102 katiekrug: Mamie has just bought it. I am hoping she will speak for the Gatsby lovers. It isn't bad, just didn't grab me.

In a fit of impatience I have downloaded The Long Way to a Small angry planet. Early days, but good so far.

104Deern
Mar 28, 2016, 1:57 am

I totally enjoyed the angry planet, but wouldn't give it a fiction prize. Not sure how to rate it as I normally don't read sci-fi, so I don't know if it's all original or if she copied many ideas from others. I bought it because of its title and for being listed.
Can't say that Gorsky calls to me so far.. Maybe should get to the Atkinson next.

105LovingLit
Mar 28, 2016, 4:00 am

>70 charl08: >71 charl08: >92 Crazymamie: so many lovely book covers! I'm drooling over here!!

>100 charl08: thats the prize that was formerly known as the Orange Prize, isn't it?

106msf59
Mar 28, 2016, 7:18 am

Hi, Charlotte! Gorsky sounds interesting. Looking forward to your thoughts on The Portable Veblen. i have not seen any LT activity, on that one.

107charl08
Mar 28, 2016, 2:40 pm

>104 Deern: I'm enjoying it so far Nathalie, although I don't read much in the genre either.

>105 LovingLit: It is indeed the prize formerly known as Orange.

>106 msf59: I have seen a review that was very favourable. Can't remember where though. Will go look.

108charl08
Edited: Mar 29, 2016, 6:26 pm

The Hanged Man of Saint-Pholien
Another Maigret. The detective gets involved in a cross-border case, which was a bit puzzling until I realised that Liege is not in France. A man commits suicide over a missing suitcase that only contained an old, blood-stained suit...


Neurotribes
I found this investigation of the history of the 20c diagnosis and approach to autism fascinating. From the role of eugenics, the Nazis and some close shave escapes to the US, to that of committed parents trying to make big changes for their children, and the creation of Autistic campaign groups and conferences, made for gripping reading.


109susanj67
Mar 28, 2016, 2:59 pm

Congrats on reaching 100, Charlotte! And in March!

110charl08
Mar 28, 2016, 3:06 pm

Thanks Susan. Great book to hit 100 on.

111EBT1002
Mar 28, 2016, 4:57 pm

>71 charl08: Hot Milk and Before the War look interesting.
No touchstones today....

I started reading NeuroTribes right before my stroke and haven't returned to it. Weird phobic response?
Anyway, I wonder how it would work as an audiobook. I know that I was already loving it as I started reading it.

112vancouverdeb
Mar 28, 2016, 5:36 pm

Well, Charlotte, you convinced me to try Maigret and the Enigmatic Lett . I found a second hand copy on amazon ca. Seems like touchstones are not working right now. Initially I was not sure what the "Mairgret's were that you referred to, but I see they are gradually being republished. You know me, decided to start with the first in the series (I think), so all that was on offer was a second hand copy, which is just fine.

Congratulations on reaching 100 books! Amazing!

113BLBera
Mar 28, 2016, 5:47 pm

Not so fast, Charlotte. You haven't read the Atkinson yet...I just picked up a couple at the library.

114charl08
Mar 28, 2016, 6:08 pm

>111 EBT1002: I'd be interested to know what you thought of the book - it didn't exactly make me think more of the DSM process, despite a low baseline to start with. Some lovely stories about human courage though.

>112 vancouverdeb: I've not read that Maigret, so will be interested to know what you think. Have just watched a new TV version with Rowan Atkinson - lovely period detail.

>113 BLBera: It's true - but the Atkinson is waiting at the library for me to pick up tomorrow. Hope you find another you love. I appreciate Atkinson and Enright, but do like the idea of the prize recognising newer writers.

115EBT1002
Mar 28, 2016, 7:00 pm

>112 vancouverdeb: I ordered a used copy of that first in the series, too, Deb!

116vancouverdeb
Mar 28, 2016, 7:02 pm

>115 EBT1002: Just posted about that on your thread, Ellen! :)

117vancouverdeb
Mar 28, 2016, 7:03 pm

Charlotte, I watched - swoons - The Queen at Ninety on a you tube channel ! LOL! I know you anti monarchist but I have to tease people a little. Thanks for the suggestion. I would have never thought to look on you tube, but there it was! Not as good as I'd had hoped, but okay.

118charl08
Mar 29, 2016, 6:55 am

>115 EBT1002: >116 vancouverdeb: I hope you both don't hate it...

>117 vancouverdeb: Glad you found a version to watch. I usually find those much anticipated programmes a let-down. Too much build up!

119charl08
Edited: Mar 29, 2016, 6:25 pm

The Silent Woman : Sylvia Plath & Ted Hughes



Short critical biography looking at the response to Plath's death from biographers and their (often hostile) engagement with the Plath estate, managed by Olwyn Hughes Ted's sister. In particular looks at the reaction to Anne Stevenson's book about Plath, and the way in which Olwyn sought to control her writing, and the hostile press response.

Malcolm is particularly good on the ghoulish interest of press and public into Hughes' private life, and the tension between their protection of a private life and the sharing of Sylvia's work. The biographer:
...allows the reader to be a voyeur with him, to eavesdrop with him, to rifle desk drawers, to take what don't belong to him.The feeling is not entirely pleasurable.

120Crazymamie
Mar 29, 2016, 8:15 am

"I hope you both don't hate it..." That made me laugh out loud, Charlotte. Way to be positive. I also purchased a Maigret, but not the first one. (Please don't bring it up in front of Susan) I got #15, which you said was one of your favorites. Should I read it quickly so we can put you out of your misery of recommending books and then being taken up on it in force?

The Silent Woman sounds interesting, although I know very little about Plath. Did you like it? And what is up with the touchstones?!

121susanj67
Mar 29, 2016, 8:18 am

I'm *right here*.

Hi Charlotte!

122Deern
Mar 29, 2016, 8:27 am

Just thought that TSW sounds interesting, but maybe not the right book for someone who never read a biography of any of those 2 and shouldn't start with a book about the biographies about them.

123Crazymamie
Mar 29, 2016, 8:27 am

Well, hello, Susan! Fancy meeting you here! I was just telling Charlotte that I had started collecting the Maigret books, and that #15 happened to be the first one that I purchased. Of course, I wouldn't dream of reading them out of order. *shakes head* I know that would be wrong.

124charl08
Mar 29, 2016, 8:42 am

>120 Crazymamie: I'm holding Georges Simenon entirely responsible for any and all dissatisfaction with the texts. Hang this reader as author malarkey.

>121 susanj67: Hi Susan. How's your glamorous life a la The Good Wife? Hope the flashy databases and power suits are treating you well...

125susanj67
Mar 29, 2016, 8:45 am

>124 charl08: No power suits today, sadly, but I do love the outfits. And no more document review! Yaaaay! I've had a peaceful morning drafting some instructions to counsel and putting a bundle of documents together. I know we never see Alicia doing that, but someone has to.

126charl08
Mar 29, 2016, 8:50 am

>122 Deern: My dad reads the Daily Mail, one of the worst newspapers here for destroying anyone who dares to live or think differently (especially when those differences include criticising the press). So I have grown up with a version of the Hughes bio which does what Malcolm points out - Plath as victim, Hughes as womanising, unfeeling wild artist. Quite difficult to uproot those assumptions I realised whilst reading this book.

I don't think I'd want to read most of the bios she mentions. She discusses at least six and I'm sure there must have been more published since Hughes died. I might try one mentioned here but unlikely to be soon.

>123 Crazymamie: Ha! Good try Mamie.

127charl08
Mar 29, 2016, 10:16 am

>125 susanj67: Susan I just found two of the last packets of fancy M and s mini eggs for 50p each. Heaven!

128charl08
Edited: Mar 29, 2016, 6:10 pm

Hurrah! Touchstones appear to be working again, in time for me to list some books out from my local library.

Missing out : in praise of the unlived life
It's not a long book, and someone else has requested this, so it's due first.

Life from elsewhere : journeys through world literature
A collection of essays about writing. What's not to love?

The house by the lake : a story of Germany
I made the mistake of showing this to my mother. I'm not sure I'm going to get it back before its due!

The double life of Mistress Kit Kavanagh
I'm not sure why I ordered this. It's a bit more swashbuckling than I anticipated.

Some women's prize books to read
A god in ruins
Girl at war : a novel
The portable Veblen

The story of my teeth
I read another of Luiselli's books and liked it a lot - this has a strong opening involving Marilyn Monroe's teeth.

Some good looking non-fiction titles
The English Civil War : a people's history
Proust and the squid : the story and science of the reading brain (a book about books! Hurrah!)
Congo : the epic history of a people

Women play guitars theme
Hunger makes me a modern girl : a memoir

Books in the 'seriously, this is ridiculous, time to read or return pile'
Getting colder
The paradox of liberation : secular revolutions and religious counterrevolution
Looking for Transwonderland : travels in Nigeria
Gandhi before India
My age of anxiety

129vancouverdeb
Mar 29, 2016, 6:18 pm

Oh the pressure re Maigret and the Enigmatic Lett . I did not realize that there is a new series in Britain called Maigret, starring Rowan Atkinson, who I think will always be Mr. Bean to me. Should be interesting. Haggis - oh no thanks!I can see plenty of cow stomachs and intestines etc in my local grocery store, thanks to the large presence of Asian immigrants who also eat that sort of thing. Maybe it is pig stomach? I try not to look.

130charl08
Mar 29, 2016, 6:36 pm

>129 vancouverdeb: It is rather odd - beautiful settings but Atkinson is Bean or Blackadder to me. I keep hoping he will meet s criminal called 'Bob'. He pronounces it so beautifully.

131charl08
Mar 29, 2016, 6:51 pm

I thought touchstones were fixed but the alternative list is all Harry Potter again. Bummer.

132EBT1002
Mar 29, 2016, 7:03 pm

Hey Charlotte. As a psychologist, I have plenty of opinions about the DSM process even before I read NeuroTribes! Do you really want to hear them? Heh.

I brought The Portable Veblen home from the library a couple of weeks ago and took it back unread. I can't say I tried it and didn't like it; the honest truth is that I looked at the inside cover and just didn't feel in the mood. I think, at that point, I didn't know anyone who had read it. So, maybe if it gets some LT love, I'll change my mind.

133msf59
Mar 29, 2016, 7:20 pm

I have heard good things about The Story of my Teeth. It is on my list. Yes, it is a rather lengthy list...to put it mildly.

134katiekrug
Mar 29, 2016, 8:14 pm

I didn't have much interest in The Portable Veblen until Alison/Kay/ridgewaygirl raved about it. Looking forward to seeing what you think of it!

135cbl_tn
Mar 29, 2016, 9:23 pm

>128 charl08: I was lucky enough to get an e-galley of The House by the Lake last week! I'm really excited about this one.

136BLBera
Mar 29, 2016, 9:32 pm

Nice library haul, Charlotte. I also have The Portable Veblen from the library. I hope to get to it next week.

137Storeetllr
Mar 30, 2016, 12:43 am

Hi, Charlotte!

>108 charl08: NeuroTribes sounds really interesting!

>128 charl08: The double life of Mistress Kit Kavanagh...(is) a bit more swashbuckling than I anticipated. I don't know. Buckling swash can be fun once in awhile, if not taken to extremes (Sorry. I'm so tired I'm being silly. Just ignore me.)

138Meraro_Jerio
Mar 30, 2016, 12:44 am

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139charl08
Edited: Mar 30, 2016, 9:45 am

A long way to a Small Angry Planet

Another women's prize longlist read. As Nathalie has said it's difficult evaluating if you don't read much sci fi, so I'll just say that I liked that this ship set novel reminded me of Firefly with women unlimited by western human gender norms as pilots, fighters etc and some fascinating other species doing gender bending stuff. Plus an intelligent look at how prejudice and discrimination might cause problems when it's about more than skin colour or religion.

Loved that one of the planets was called Cricket. RIP Douglas Adams.

140Crazymamie
Mar 30, 2016, 9:43 am

I'm glad you liked it, Charlotte. I thought it was a lot of fun - not sure I would nominate it for a prize, but it was well done.

141charl08
Edited: Mar 30, 2016, 9:50 am

>132 EBT1002: I guess I meant in the context of autism, but by all means let your freak flag fly Ellen. My Veblen copy is a lovely new hardback so I am tempted.

>133 msf59: Mark it made me smile already so it's doing well.

>134 katiekrug: Thanks Katie - I knew I'd read a good review somewhere, but had a blank on just who by.

>135 cbl_tn: That sounds great - I heard a section of it on the radio about the lake being off limits during the period of the wall. Hard.

142charl08
Edited: Mar 30, 2016, 12:08 pm

>136 BLBera: Ridgewaygirl's review is recommended Beth.

>137 Storeetllr: I agree - just was the unanticipated nature of it - in my head it was a book about Mrs Sheridan. No.

>138 Meraro_Jerio: It is . And welcome to my thread!

>140 Crazymamie: Couldn't have put it better Mamie.

143PaulCranswick
Mar 30, 2016, 10:05 am

How did I get so many days behind?

>71 charl08: Decent list this last week in the review but I am not sure anything really leaps out at me. Perhaps the Deborah Levy or the book by David Laws.

My you are tearing through that Women's Prize Longlist!

144jnwelch
Mar 30, 2016, 11:47 am

>139 charl08: I'm with you and Mamie on The Long Way to a Small Angry Planet, Charlotte. I had a good time with it.

I was impressed with what she went through to get it written and published - a successful Kickstarter campaign to give herself the time to finish it. Pretty cool. Now she's getting rewarded by all the reader love.

145charl08
Mar 30, 2016, 12:15 pm

>143 PaulCranswick: There were Mamie/ Katie shenanigans up there Paul. Say no more! Also enquiries about reading in the wrong a more, er, creative order...

I do love this time of year. For the booklist lover/ nerds, these are Good Times. I tried to explain at the library about the women's fiction prize longlist (I left two books on the reservation shelf to pick up the Novic) and can't have explained very well. Confused looks all round.

>144 jnwelch: I was impressed she got the money to finish the book Joe. Good thinking. And now there's a sequel, according to Amazon.

146charl08
Edited: Mar 30, 2016, 2:54 pm

I've been reading Songlines for so long I'd quite decided I'd finished it.

I hadn't. So I polished off the last couple of chapters today in the sunshine in between watering plants, which seemed appropriate as the author (Chatwin) described watching a woman write a dictionary by interviewing an elderly man about plants and seeds. From this Chatwin jumps to what naming means for us as humans: people name the plants around them, get their children to learn names for the natural world. Or at least they used to.



Communities in Australia are described as being lost, out of area, when they no longer know the names for the plants and seeds around them. His wider ideas - the possibility that we are all natural migrants, and bad things happen (conservatism!*) when people are too secure, to fixed to a particular place of plenty. In the mix are stories about Aboriginal art, elderly memories of the land and its meaning, and the odd people living in Australia's heartlands. He also digs up his memories of travel in West Africa and discussions with paleontologists about the evolution of the first people. All accompanied by wonderful quotes and references from Ibn Battura to Kirkegaard.

Solvitur ambulando. **

There are some beautiful adventures in binding the book here:
http://www.foliosociety.com/joesblog/wednesday-2-november-2011/

*of course I agree with this. Truly we just need to send our politicians on a long trip for all to be solved.

**It is solved by walking.

I love this cover with an example of beautiful Aboriginal art.


NB Probably worth noting some of the concerns about Chatwin's writing.

147EBT1002
Mar 30, 2016, 2:06 pm

>145 charl08: I'm always surprised when librarians or other book folks don't know about or care about various prizes. I mean, I get that the prize circuit is part of a larger conspiracy to sell more books, but it's also tremendous fun! And if an author can capture one of those prizes, it can make all the difference to their ability to afford living and writing.

Our public library allows one to request that they order a book if they don't have it in the collection. The on-line form asks "why" you want them to purchase said book. I can't remember what I was asking them to purchase a couple of years ago (Julian Barnes' The Sense of an Ending?), but in that field I simply wrote "Booker Short List." In my opinion, the Seattle Public Library simply should own every Booker long-listed novel. But they didn't ask me.

They did purchase whatever it was I was asking them to purchase.

>146 charl08: Wonderful comments about and images of The Songlines.

148charl08
Mar 30, 2016, 3:05 pm

Ha Ellen. When I am in a snarky mood I sometimes feel like writing in the why box: because no one at my library appears to have been reading the book news. But I suspect it has more to do with budget cuts. Staff who read are not the priority, and a FOI request showed yesterday on the news that 1000 jobs have gone in libraries around the country (I forget over how long).

149BLBera
Mar 30, 2016, 3:06 pm

Charlotte - Great comments on Songlines

150charl08
Edited: Mar 30, 2016, 3:33 pm

This is about all the UK cuts (not just the northwest).
http://www.cilip.org.uk/news/bbc-dataset-reveals-scale-public-library-losses

151jnwelch
Mar 30, 2016, 3:48 pm

>146 charl08: I loved The Songlines, Charlotte. We got to learn even more about them and Aboriginal storytelling when we visited Uluru a few years ago.

Solvitur ambulando. Great! I'd never heard that one before.

I'm ignorant about the concerns about Chatwin's writing. I've really liked his books that I've read.

152charl08
Mar 30, 2016, 3:50 pm

>149 BLBera: Thanks Beth. He did write beautifully. Although perhaps more fictionally than ideal in a travel book.

153charl08
Mar 30, 2016, 4:01 pm

>151 jnwelch: There's a bit on wikipedia. And this article on his letters in the Guardian.
Under the Sun: The Letters of Bruce Chatwin selected and edited by Elizabeth Chatwin and Nicholas Shakespeare
http://gu.com/p/2jcad?

154jnwelch
Mar 30, 2016, 4:32 pm

>153 charl08: Interesting article, thanks, Charlotte. Not exactly earth-shaking scandal, but he apparently wasn't Dr. Paul Farmer either. He sure could write.

155charl08
Mar 30, 2016, 5:46 pm

Hey Joe - not earth shattering, but maybe useful info if you like the line between your fact and fiction clear and sharp and your authors squeaky clean; the postmodernists among us will be fine.

156charl08
Edited: Mar 30, 2016, 6:28 pm

Not sure how we've almost hit April already, but Sweetland is ready at the library and I have Middlemarch and The Handmaid's Tale good to go too.

157EBT1002
Edited: Mar 30, 2016, 6:18 pm

>148 charl08: "1000 jobs have gone in libraries around the country..."
Regardless of the time period, that is a sad commentary. I love libraries so much.

eta: Oy, April. I need to figure out what kind of challenge-related reading I have in me this coming month.

158msf59
Mar 30, 2016, 6:43 pm

Glad you are enjoying The Story of my Teeth. Ooh, Sweetland is a good one. Nice pick. Have you read Galore? If not, another gem.

159charl08
Mar 30, 2016, 7:21 pm

>157 EBT1002: There was a rep from a thinktank claiming libraries have no economic value to people anymore on the news yesterday. Argh!

>158 msf59: I was pleased to find it on the shelf Mark. She's just not like any other writer I've come across. It's bonkers stuff, but I like it! Sweetland is the only one of his books available at the library - made the choice easy.

160charl08
Mar 30, 2016, 7:31 pm

Updated women's fiction prize longlist

Kate Atkinson: A God in Ruins in the TBR pile

Shirley Barrett: Rush Oh!

Cynthia Bond: Ruby

Geraldine Brooks: The Secret Chord

Becky Chambers: The Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet

Jackie Copleton: A Dictionary of Mutual Understanding


Rachel Elliott: Whispers Through a Megaphone on order at the library

Anne Enright: The Green Road

Petina Gappah: The Book of Memory

Vesna Goldsworthy: Gorsky

Clio Gray: The Anatomist’s Dream

Melissa Harrison: At Hawthorn Time

Attica Locke: Pleasantville

Lisa McInerney: The Glorious Heresies

Elizabeth McKenzie: The Portable Veblen currently reading

Sara Nović: Girl at War

Julia Rochester: The House at the Edge of the World

Hannah Rothschild: The Improbability of Love

Elizabeth Strout: My Name is Lucy Barton ordered at the library

Hanya Yanagihara A Little Life

My pick for the shortlisting so far...

Geraldine Brooks: The Secret Chord
I thought she imagined biblical David's life convincingly.
Anne Enright: The Green Road
I loved the story of a family spreading out around the world.
Petina Gappah: The Book of Memory
Not perfect, but lots of good stuff as a woman looks back at her life from her Zimbabwean prison cell.
Shirley Barrett Rush Oh!
Striking historical account of whaling community in Australia, but it's the humour that really won me over.

Still nothing that has dramatically won me over yet from thinking that The Green Road should probably win...

161vancouverdeb
Mar 30, 2016, 10:23 pm

Maigret and the Enigmatic Lett arrived today. It looks like fun, just glanced at so far.

As for the Women's Prize, I've only read The House at the Edge of the World which I enjoyed, but I don't see it going further. I could see Lucy Barton it making to the short list. I have The Book of Memory and I hope it will my next book. I also have A God in Ruins. I tossed aside The Green Road after 100 or more pages. Just too much gratuitous sex and swearing for my tastes ( there is my prude side surfacing :) .
It will be interesting to see what makes the short list. You've read so many more of the books than me .

162EBT1002
Mar 30, 2016, 11:21 pm

>160 charl08: What a great post. I am bookmarking (so to speak) the four that you've highlighted.

163charl08
Mar 31, 2016, 7:45 am

>161 vancouverdeb: I've not had a chance to get to Lucy Barton yet Deborah, still waiting for it to swing round to me at the library.

>162 EBT1002: I saw you'd posted the list on your thread Ellen. Hope you get the chance to read them - sounds like you have a lot on your plate (how many days to the new hire starting?!)

164charl08
Mar 31, 2016, 7:48 am

Interesting conversation with the lady at the library today. Did they have a friends of the library group? (Not as far as she knows). And can I ask people questions for some research into Lancashire libraries? (I'd have to ask the boss. Who doesn't currently exist as there isn't a postholder. So ask their boss and go from there). OK then...

165charl08
Mar 31, 2016, 7:59 am

Bean update!



166susanj67
Mar 31, 2016, 8:27 am

I spy a bean! Great going, Charlotte!

Your library lady sounds like the one I have here. Knows nothing, not bovvered, all too hard. You should start a Friends group and get them worried :-)

167Crazymamie
Mar 31, 2016, 8:32 am

>165 charl08: *grin*

Look at you and your green thumb, Charlotte! Nicely done.

168katiekrug
Mar 31, 2016, 9:12 am

From the Bailey's list, you should read Ruby asap. I loved it, in a heartbreakingly painful way.

I have At Hawthorn Time out from the library... Hope to get to it in April.

169jnwelch
Mar 31, 2016, 9:57 am

>155 charl08: One of the big disappointments of my young reading life was finding out Knut Hamsun was a Nazi sympathizer. I was such a fan of Hunger and "Mysteries" (couldn't find the touchstone) http://smile.amazon.com/Mysteries-Penguin-Twentieth-Century-Classics-Hamsun/dp/0.... What a shame.

170charl08
Mar 31, 2016, 12:15 pm

>168 katiekrug: Yes boss. Will do!

>169 jnwelch: I could see how that would be upsetting to a reading kid.

171charl08
Mar 31, 2016, 1:21 pm

The Story of My Teeth



This is a completely bonkers book. I can't summarise it -the afterword says that it was developed as a serialised book with a reading group in a Mexican fruit juice factory - that happens to sponsor the modern art gallery next door. Both appear in the story, along with photos of the key spots in Mexico City mentioned in the text. Perhaps the Spanish readers amongst us might want to read it in Spanish too, as she says the translation is as much a reimagination of the original text, developed with the translator.

172Helenliz
Mar 31, 2016, 3:25 pm

>164 charl08: we have a friends of the library group, it's a bit of a waste of time. It wants to have cake sales and coffee mornings, not to actually get people in to use the library.

173charl08
Mar 31, 2016, 3:39 pm

Sorry Susan and Mamie, I missed you! Muchas apologias

>166 susanj67: I think they're all over the place, but not the staff's fault. They're making them take the leave owing, so there must be a real fear of upcoming redundancies (and despite what the Chancellor says, this is not a good area to get a job in anything outside caring on minimum wage), they're making back room staff work the desks, management posts are empty and the computer system appears to me to be 'unfit for purpose'.

That said, there are some staff members who I avoided before the cuts were first discussed because it was just such hard work.

>167 Crazymamie: Thanks Mamie. I'm a bit miffed with one of my dad's friends who came over and said the garden couldn't be taking me that much time. Ha!

>172 Helenliz: Yup, I would think that was a bit pointless too. I want to look er, critically at a study that said libraries don't add economic value. And stop the cuts. And get more kids in. And add more chairs. And better displays linked to book news. And proper hours for people who work 9-5. And open days to get people in who haven't been into a library for years. And a few other things too.

174BLBera
Mar 31, 2016, 4:45 pm

Hi Charlotte - Nice looking beans. I just read a novel that defies description as well - I like those. I will definitely look for Luiselli in Spanish.

I need to get going on the Orange list. I still think, from the descriptions I've seen that Atkinson has to at least make the shortlist.

175charl08
Edited: Mar 31, 2016, 5:14 pm

Reading it in Spanish sounds good Beth - I'm wondering what the differences will be.

I would be surprised if Atkinson doesn't at least make the shortlist from the buzz. I have it here but thought I'd read Girl at War first.

176charl08
Mar 31, 2016, 5:25 pm

Wow. I can't imagine what you can do with it if you're not a library!

A handwritten draft of a Sherlock Holmes mystery from 1893 is to be sold at a fine literature auction in New York – with estimates suggesting it could go for up to £300,000.

The Adventure of the Greek Interpreter is one of the 56 short stories written by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle about the detective Sherlock Holmes. The story is best known for the first appearance of Holmes’s older brother, Mycroft.

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/mar/30/sherlock-holmes-manuscript-fetch-up...

177jnwelch
Mar 31, 2016, 5:42 pm

>176 charl08: Thank you for the link! I quickly passed it on to our Holmesophile daughter and her dog Sherlock. Manga based on the Benedict-Martin BBC series also is intriguing.

178charl08
Edited: Mar 31, 2016, 6:02 pm

>177 jnwelch: So I guess the question is what would *she* do with it?!!

Reading Girl at War. War in Zagreb as the Serbian forces advance. I fear this is not going to end well:
There was something about talking with him that made me feel better, no matter the conversation. My mother used to say my father and I thought in the same circles. I never understood it until I watched us later, in memories - when we were gazing at the sky (and we often were) we could unconsciously turn in the same direction and extract the same face from the crowds.

179elkiedee
Mar 31, 2016, 6:05 pm

We set up a Friends Group out of a library campaign, and were then told we couldn't be political. I think we've given up on being non-political, though.

Tonight, a Friends Group in Lambeth has occupied Carnegie Library in Herne Hill in protest, as it's closing down - plan is to reopen it as a gym next year with a few bookshelves.

180jnwelch
Mar 31, 2016, 6:11 pm

>178 charl08: Marvel at it. :-) It's a little beyond a schoolteacher's salary.

181charl08
Mar 31, 2016, 6:20 pm

Sometimes it seems by saying don't be political what is meant is please don't be awkward, or challenge decisions.

182charl08
Mar 31, 2016, 6:21 pm

>180 jnwelch: I just imagine myself spilling tea on it in slow motion. Argh!

183michigantrumpet
Mar 31, 2016, 7:02 pm

Hello Charlotte! Popping out of semi-seclusion to say howdy. I applaud your efforts on behalf of the library!

184charl08
Edited: Mar 31, 2016, 7:41 pm

>183 michigantrumpet: The trick would be turning the ideas into reality. Ah well.

Monthly summary for March 29 books read

Regionally speaking it was an interesting month with books from China Frog and Zimbabwe The Book of Memory.
Australia 1, US & Canada 10, China 1, Europe 14 (UK 9), Latin America 2, Africa 1.

Better gender balance this month, helped by the women's fiction longlist reading (Rush Oh! , The Book of Memory, Gorsky and A Long Way to a Small Angry Planet).
F 18 M 11

I read more non-fiction than usual I think this month. White Mughals and Neurotribes were particularly good.
Fiction 21 Non-fiction 8

The digital numbers are high because of Maigret on a 99p daily deal. I also bought a few after the tax refund.
Library 18 own 5 Digital 5 someone else's 1

185elkiedee
Mar 31, 2016, 10:58 pm

>181 charl08: I think that was exactly what was meant!

186vancouverdeb
Apr 1, 2016, 5:38 am

I am surprised that my library does not ask why or have a field in which to put your reason for a purchase request. Maybe I should make that suggestion. They do try to carry the Canadian prize books, The Books , and I'm not sure about the Women's Literary Prize. They actually have a Canada Read's short list display and winner etc. Despite my complaints about my library , I must say that at least the three branches are open every day , 4 nights a week they are open til 9 at night. The main branch is open longer hours, but I usually use a smaller branch - so much trouble parking at the main branch.

187charl08
Edited: Apr 1, 2016, 6:29 am

>185 elkiedee: Maybe we should be the Awkward friends of the library, just to make things clear to all from the start.

>186 vancouverdeb: It can be a bit of an awkward box to fill in sometimes Deborah. "I just want to read it"!!! I envy your late night openings. I just think that libraries need to be accessible, and most people work during the day and have commuting time too. At the moment even the Saturday opening hours are limited, and I think it's a short sighted policy.

188charl08
Edited: Apr 7, 2016, 6:36 pm

Girl at War
from the Women's Prize for fiction longlist

I left the house for the first time when the chickens exploded.... As the bombs fell they released showers of tiny metal balls. The outside world called them "cluster bombs." We called them zvončići , jingle bells. They were not like traditional land mines or trip wires constructed to kill in combat zones. Zvončići clung to tree branches and roof tiles, nestledin patches of grass; they fell indiscriminately, like combustible hail. They were patient, making up for what they lacked in size with the element of surprise. They had surprised the chickens.


Another powerful first novel from the longlist. Ana tells her story, from the beginning of the war in Croatia as a small 'tomboy' who loves football and riding her bike with her best friend Luka, to looking back and dealing with the impact of the war ten years later. I thought the structure was clever. I was getting wound up that the 'bad thing' that was clearly going to happen to Ana's family was going to be the end of the novel, but instead she ended the first section with Ana's family shot at a roadblock, and immediately moved to the New York narrative, enabling the final section and her return to Croatia, to explore those experiences again. I thought that her 'new' family's connections was a neat way to make sense of escaping visa redtape, and meant the story could focus on Ana's sense of dislocation rather than bureaucracy of migration.



There is a scene in the film Before Sunrise (filmed in the 1990s) where the Julie Delpy character talks about how they are exploring Vienna 's cultured nightlife but there is a war going on less than x km away and no one is doing anything about it. I was reminded of that by this book. Ultimately the plot is not the point, rather the experience of the war and how those who left and those who remained dealt with their many losses, as well as their crimes.

189msf59
Apr 1, 2016, 7:21 am

Happy Friday, Charlotte! Nice beans! I must of been the only one, who felt Girl at War fell short. Maybe it was my mood at the time. Who knows. Glad it worked for you.

Congrats on some good reading for March!

190michigantrumpet
Apr 1, 2016, 7:42 am

>188 charl08: Great review! Extra points for the Before Sunrise reference!

191Deern
Apr 1, 2016, 7:57 am

That's a great review and half a BB. Half because I just downloaded 3 new challenge books and don't want to add another one before the queue is shorter again. Btw. The Blind Assassin is developping into quite the page turner to my surprise. Maybe the first Atwood I'll really like?

192Crazymamie
Apr 1, 2016, 7:57 am

Very nice review, Charlotte! And look at you reading 29 books in March - way to go!!

I got an Amazon delivery yesterday, and I am holding you responsible - The Trees. Can I just say that it would not have crossed my radar yet except for your Guardian reviews. The cover is even more beautiful (and textured) in person - really gorgeous.

193Carmenere
Apr 1, 2016, 8:21 am

Happy Friday, Charlotte! >165 charl08: Awe, what an adorable little bean!
I'm intrigued by The Story of My Teeth. Added it to the wish list, the English version as my Spanish is a bit sloppy.

194charl08
Edited: Apr 1, 2016, 10:36 am

>189 msf59: Thanks Mark for the bean and list wishes! I could see how Girl at War might well not be to everyone's taste. While I thought it was good I did note that it was a first novel. I think her next book could well be better.

>190 michigantrumpet: Glad I'm not the only fan. I saw Julie Delpy at the Edinburgh film fest and was rather in awe. She doesn't appear to have aged at all.

>191 Deern: Glad to hear it. I'm only really a fan of her historical stuff, so The Handmaid's Tale is going to be an interesting read for me. I've got Sweetland out from the library today. Hopefully at least one of the two will work for the CAC.

>192 Crazymamie: Thanks Mamie. That is a gorgeous cover, worthy of a frame. Hope it's a good read.

>193 Carmenere: Sloppy or not, your Spanish must be better than mine, which doesn't go much past 'Zona Rosa, por favor'. I'm excited to see the new leaves on the plant, hoping it will grow a bit taller!

195sibylline
Apr 1, 2016, 10:45 am

The Juliet Nicolson goes on the WL, can't be helped.

Big fan of Chatwin's here. Loved The Songlines.

196charl08
Apr 1, 2016, 10:52 am

The new Nicholson book appeals to me too Lucy. I'm hoping to read In Patagonia at some point.

197RidgewayGirl
Apr 1, 2016, 10:59 am

>189 msf59: Mark, I also found Girl at War oddly lacking. And felt weird criticizing it, as the subject matter is so important, but it felt less like a well-crafted novel, and more like the author had collected stories from the people who lived through the war and cobbled them together into a narrative. Still, it was information about a time and place I know too little about.

198BLBera
Apr 1, 2016, 11:14 am

Impressive stats for March, Charlotte. Interesting that Girl at War is gathering differing opinions. I'll get to it sooner or later.

Happy Friday.

199charl08
Edited: Apr 1, 2016, 11:17 am

>197 RidgewayGirl: Ha! That was so not how I read the book...

>198 BLBera: Thanks Beth. I still think that a lot of the problems come under first book syndrome - but willing to accept I may well be in a minority.

200PaulCranswick
Apr 1, 2016, 1:18 pm

>197 RidgewayGirl: & >199 charl08: I always enjoy it when views on a particular book diverge so completely. That is exactly what the group is about.

Have a lovely weekend, Charlotte. I am getting in some of my wishes in early as I will be on the road fairly soon (about a day from now) and I may not have time otherwise.

201charl08
Apr 1, 2016, 2:09 pm

Thanks Paul - safe travels. I am reading Mr Dixon Disappears, part of the Mobile Librarian series set in Northern Ireland. Whimsical...

202charl08
Apr 1, 2016, 6:27 pm

He was sick of the excuses and the lies. He was tired of the evasions and the untruths, of people refusing to stand up and speak the truth and take responsibility for their own actions. It seemed to him like another symptom of the decline of western civilisation; of chaos; of climate change; and environmental disaster; and war; disease; famine; oppression; the eternal slow slide down and down and down. It was entropy, nemesis, apotheosis, imminent apocalypse and sheer bad manners all rolled into one.
People were not returning their library books on time.
From Mr Dixon Disappears (the second book in a series I am mostly reading in the wrong order...)

203vancouverdeb
Apr 1, 2016, 8:18 pm

Hmm - I've not read a Girl At War but it sounds interesting . I did not read the spoiler bit. Do you think it's worth the read, Charlotte?

204Crazymamie
Apr 1, 2016, 10:03 pm

I read The Misty Harbor today, which was my very first Simenon, and I really liked it, Charlotte! There will definitely be more Maigret in my future!

205EBT1002
Apr 2, 2016, 2:17 am

Dang. That long list keeps getting me with book bullets.

One. More. Week.

It's not like my life will get, um, carefree, but I do look forward to the shift in focus.

206Berly
Apr 2, 2016, 3:03 am

>202 charl08: The last line--crack me up!

207charl08
Apr 2, 2016, 4:16 am

>203 vancouverdeb: I liked it a lot Deborah but as both Mark and Kay are unconvinced, maybe one to get from the library and hedge your bets?

>204 Crazymamie: Phew! I was a bit worried there!

>205 EBT1002: I don't know how you pack it all in Ellen. Hope you've got something nice planned to celebrate handing over.

>206 Berly: He's good with the jokes. Reminds me of Colin Cotterill a bit.

208charl08
Edited: Apr 2, 2016, 6:30 am

Missing Out: in praise of the unlived life

I'm trying to crack on with this as someone else has requested it. Every so often I get a flash of thinking I understand what he means, and then the murk reappears.
Freud's work is best read as a long elegy for the intelligibility of our lives. We make sense of our lives in order to be free, not to have to make sense.

209charl08
Edited: Apr 2, 2016, 9:09 am

Guardian Reviews non-fiction


Chronicles: on our troubled times by Thomas Piketty; And the Weak Suffer What They Must? by Yanis Varoufakis reviewed by Paul Mason
"how does a life of academic precision prepare you for a struggle over economic policy in which rationality and proof go out of the window? How, in the modern world, do leftwing professors fight?"


The Holy Roman Empire by Peter H Wilson reviewed by Christopher Kissane
"He encourages us to reassess the history of Europe with an empire state of mind."


The End of Alchemy by Mervyn King reviewed by David Kynaston
"What to do now about the banks and their discredited alchemy? Arguing that post-crisis reform, albeit valuable, has not gone nearly far enough, King offers an approach that is both functional and cultural."


How English Became English by Simon Horobin reviewed by Faramerz Dabhoiwala
" “OMG” was used by a septuagenarian naval hero, admiral of the fleet Lord Fisher, in 1917: so get over it. Long before Facebook, Thomas More, Shakespeare and Alexander Pope all wrote of people who’d been “un-friended”. Though Tesco was shamed by grammatical purists into altering the wording of its checkout signs from “10 items or less” to “Up to 10 items”, there’s no sound historical or logical basis for such pedantry."


The Name of God Is Mercy by Pope Francis; Francis by Jimmy Burns reviewed by Terry Eagleton
"“Jesus sends forth his disciples,” Francis comments, “not as holders of power or as masters of a law. He sends them forth into the world asking them to live in the logic of love and selflessness … by embracing the outcast, the marginalised and the sinner.” Standard stuff in one sense; yet at a Trump rally it might just be enough to get you punched in the face."


International Space Station by David Nixon reviewed by Rowan Moore
"There are striking details in Nixon’s account, such as the creaking noise, alarming to new arrivals at the space station, caused by its rapid heating and cooling in extreme temperatures. There is the “smell of space”, the “sweet metallic” odour emitted by objects brought in from outside. There is the fact that the top of astronauts’ feet harden, and their soles soften, as zero gravity requires them not to walk around but to stabilise themselves by hooking their feet under rails."

Sketchbooks by Grayson Perry reviewed by Bee Wilson
"Some artists’ etchings – those of Dürer spring to mind – reveal virtuoso draftsmanship and raw brilliance. Perry’s are nothing like that."

All reviews from http://www.theguardian.com/books

210Ameise1
Apr 2, 2016, 9:15 am

>171 charl08: My local library has got a copy of Faces in the Crowd. Have you read that one?

Wishing you a relaxed weekend, Charlotte.

211charl08
Edited: Apr 2, 2016, 12:07 pm

Guardian Reviews Fiction


Eileen by Ottessa Moshfegh reviewed by Sandra Newman
"The great power of this book, which won the PEN/Hemingway debut fiction award last month, is that Eileen is never simply a literary gargoyle; she is painfully alive and human, and Ottessa Moshfegh writes her with a bravura wildness that allows flights of expressionistic fantasy to alternate with deadpan matter of factness."

Patience by Daniel Clowes reviewed by Neel Mukherjee
"At certain points, the narrative may remind you of the film Looper, at other times, of that old counterfactual question, “If you could go back in time and kill Hitler’s mother, would you do it?” "




The Arab of the Future by Riad Sattouf reviewed by Robin Yassin-Kassab
"The grimness of the depiction, added to the fact that Sattouf once contributed to Charlie Hebdo, might prompt accusations of orientalism, but this is equal opportunity critique. Riad’s French grandfather is depicted as a homophobic lecher. France is richer, but its children are more self-absorbed. The child Riad finds French faces more expressive; the adult cartoonist captures as much life in Syrian faces as the French, but the Syrian expressions are more guarded, contained by various forms of repression."


Waking Lions by Ayelet Gundar-Goshen reviewed by Ruth Gilligan
"It does gesture towards wider political themes, with the refugee narrative of particular relevance today. However, the majority of scenes remain focused on the domestic dilemma..."


Maestra by LS Hilton reviewed by Stephanie Merritt
"It’s shocking because the world it portrays feels so depressingly regressive. Men have money, power, yachts and hedge funds. Women are disposable accessories, frantic for material gain; they might use their wiles to outwit the men, or manipulate them to their own advantage, but the essential balance of power remains unchanged."

212msf59
Apr 2, 2016, 9:49 am

Happy Saturday, Charlotte! Thanks for sharing the Guardian reviews. I have been interested in Eileen for some time. An LT pal read it awhile back. Katie, maybe?

Patience also sounds interesting.

213RidgewayGirl
Apr 2, 2016, 10:03 am

I do love Grayson Perry. He wrote a column for a newspaper (The Times?) while I was living in England, and I enjoyed his writing tremendously. I'll have to at least look through this book.

And I recommend Eileen if you like noir. It's quite graphic -- not about murder and such -- but about ordinary bodily functions, so take that under advisement. I'm still haunted by one scene involving frozen vomit. But it really is an extraordinary book.

214charl08
Apr 2, 2016, 10:12 am

>212 msf59: I've asked the library to order Patience - fingers crossed Mark I'll be able to report back Mark!

>213 RidgewayGirl: Oh I'd love to hear what you think of the Perry. I saw one of his exhibits and they're fun pots. Not sure about Eileen!

215charl08
Apr 2, 2016, 10:13 am

>210 Ameise1: I have read it Barbara. I enjoyed it.

216msf59
Apr 2, 2016, 10:14 am

>213 RidgewayGirl: Well, that's a good endorsement. Sounds like my cuppa.

217BLBera
Apr 2, 2016, 11:45 am

Hi Charlotte - None of the Guardian reviews are calling my name this week. Phew!

218Chatterbox
Apr 2, 2016, 12:10 pm

The Yanis Varoufakis book arrived from the publishers, unsolicited, on my doorstep two days ago, so I suppose I'll read that at some point. I think I have an e-galley of Eileen; I know I have an ARC of Maestra. I may have the Piketty as an ARC under a different tittle, if it's a collection of different essays he has written.

Mark, I have read The Portable Veblen It was early in the year, so it's on my first thread, if you're curious. Eccentric, endearing, sometimes over the top. Still contemplating it, really, but it's not the kind of book that will just completely vanish in the rear-view mirror.

219charl08
Edited: Apr 2, 2016, 12:14 pm

>216 msf59: Ha Mark.

>217 BLBera: I enjoyed The Arab of the Future but I can appreciate it might not be everyone's cup of tea.

>218 Chatterbox: I usually envy you the ARCs Suzanne but I'll happily leave you to those. Would enjoy reading your take on the economic books though.

220charl08
Edited: Apr 2, 2016, 3:21 pm

Started Sweetland which I'm reading for the CRC (which I've been called the CAC, and just realised that that's wrong!?)
Her daughter was trying to rehabilitate her lowbrow taste in reading material with what Queenie called "serious" books- literary novels, prize-winners, Oprah's picks. Sandra sent them down from Edmonton with encouraging notes scribbled inside the covers. Queenie never cracked a spine, but for the few written by Newfoundlanders or about Newfoundland. She took those on as a kind of patriotic duty, though it was a torture to get through them. They were every one depressing, she said. Or nothing happened. Or there was no point to the story. Half the books supposedly set in Newfoundland were nowhere Queenie recognised and she felt insulted by their claim on her life. They all sounds like they were written by townies, she liked to say.

221Crazymamie
Apr 2, 2016, 3:38 pm

Oh, I loved Sweetland when I read it last year. That's a great quote!

What? Why would it be the CRC? It's the Canadian Author Challenge, right?

222charl08
Edited: Apr 2, 2016, 3:42 pm

Signed, Picpus
Despite the storm, the night was warm, and the front windows of the big brasserie on Boulevard de Clichy were wide open. The two men were sitting where the terrace met the bar. On one side a hot, brightly lit bustle, the comings and goings of waiters, the lively groups of diners; on the other, tables deserted under the awning, which bulged with water; two young women with empty glasses in front of them; the rain, which was still falling, but not with the same intensity as earlier. Place Blanche with its electric signs, beyond a patch of darkness where taxis skidded on the wet asphalt, and the glowing reflection of the sails of the Moulin Rouge, which turned tirelessly …

223charl08
Apr 2, 2016, 3:39 pm

>221 Crazymamie: Having a senior moment Mamie. It's that or the wine...

224Crazymamie
Apr 2, 2016, 3:41 pm

I SO get that. I call it a mental moment. But wine works, too.

225jnwelch
Apr 2, 2016, 6:24 pm

Hi, Charlotte. I'm curious about Patience, too. I hope you get your hands on it. I liked his Ghost World all those years ago, but his more recent stuff hasn't grabbed me all that much.

226charl08
Edited: Apr 2, 2016, 7:00 pm

>224 Crazymamie: Thanks Mamie. You don't have to be crazy to read this thread, but it may help...

>225 jnwelch: Fingers crossed Joe. They've been pretty good in the past with GNs, so... I liked the sound of time travel, as a fan of David Tennant.

227charl08
Apr 3, 2016, 7:50 am

Oh I am loving Sweetland and resenting interruptions. But I can't find the thread to post my appreciation...

228Carmenere
Apr 3, 2016, 8:00 am

Happy Sunday, Charlotte! Have you posted the Guardian non-fiction before? If you have, I'm sorry I missed it. If you haven't, it's a nice addition.
Nothing on either list really grabs me this time, so nothing to add to wishlist. Have a great day!

229charl08
Apr 3, 2016, 8:46 am

>228 Carmenere: I decided to to split the post to make it easier to manage updating pictures of the covers (but hope that it is easier to read).

230Crazymamie
Apr 3, 2016, 8:53 am

Happy Sunday, Charlotte! I'm so glad you are loving Sweetland - the writing is fabulous, isn't it? I don't think Ilana has created the April thread for the CAC yet, at least, I couldn't find it, either.

231charl08
Edited: Apr 3, 2016, 9:45 am

Thanks Mamie - it's a fascinating read.

I'm thinking I'll add Elnathan John's novel, Born on a Tuesday to the wishlist, after reading this interview.

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/apr/03/elnathan-john-born-on-a-tuesday-int...

232Carmenere
Apr 3, 2016, 9:46 am

233charl08
Edited: Apr 3, 2016, 11:08 am

>232 Carmenere: Good stuff.

I'm going to aim to read a poem a day during poetry month. Here's a quote from one by Alicia Ostriker, A Young Woman, A Tree.
"The life spills over, some days,
She cannot be at rest
Wishes she could explode

Like that red tree..."

Full poem here:
http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/browse/150/6#!/20601264/0

234charl08
Apr 3, 2016, 5:01 pm

I really enjoyed Sweetland, the story of a man holding out against the forced purchase of an island settlement in Newfoundland. Wonderful evocation of an isolated place, and the customs of a small fishing community. I really cared about Moses Sweetland and his family, keen to find out what the flashbacks would reveal about the reasons for his choices.

235Crazymamie
Apr 3, 2016, 5:10 pm

And you wanted just a bit more, right, Charlotte? I know I did. Really beautiful writing with a wonderful sense of place.

236vancouverdeb
Apr 3, 2016, 5:18 pm

You are such an amazingly fast reader, Charlotte. Glad you enjoyed Sweetland. Despite Michael Crummey being a Canadian Writer, I've yet to get into one of his books.

237BLBera
Apr 3, 2016, 5:22 pm

I just added Sweetland to my list, Charlotte.

238charl08
Apr 3, 2016, 5:49 pm

>235 Crazymamie: I would happily read a book about several of the other characters and what happened next. As you say, beautiful writing. I was amused too at the use he made of the various books about town.

>236 vancouverdeb: I was interrupted Deborah - went out for a lovely lunch but it has been one of those days where I would have been just as happy with cheese and a cracker and the chance to get on with reading my book.* Although I did also watch an amazing documentary about a guy who went to Papua New Guinea to meet a community who "farm" crocodiles. Yowzas!

>237 BLBera: I'm really pleased to have read it Beth. Not a book I think I would ever have picked up on my own (I can't find a jpg for the UK hardback cover but I found it weirdly off putting). It reminded me of Proulx but not sure if that just shows my ignorance of the area.

*Most days are like this...

239charl08
Edited: Apr 3, 2016, 5:59 pm

It's Sunday. And I love this poem, especially the first stanza. I like the story of the poet (he circulated his poems among his friends long before being published). This is the second stanza, which makes me think of holidays....

From Ithaca by C P Cavafy
Translated by Edmund Keeley and Philip Sherrard
...
Hope your road is a long one.
May there be many summer mornings when,
with what pleasure, what joy,
you enter harbors you’re seeing for the first time;
may you stop at Phoenician trading stations
to buy fine things,
mother of pearl and coral, amber and ebony,
sensual perfume of every kind—
as many sensual perfumes as you can;
and may you visit many Egyptian cities
to learn and go on learning from their scholars.

The whole poem is here:
http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/181782

240Storeetllr
Apr 3, 2016, 6:55 pm

>202 charl08: >207 charl08: Okay, you got me with "reminds me of Colin Cotterill a bit." I've added the first in the series (purist that I try to be) and hope to borrow it soon from the library. Which, I feel blessed to be able to say, is wonderful, fully staffed with pleasant, helpful librarians and with a way to borrow books from other library systems within the region (I borrowed a book from Wyoming once) if my library doesn't have it on the shelves. I can't imagine living somewhere the library is so lacksadaisically run.

>209 charl08: Yet another BB - How English Became English sounds like one I need to by to keep for reference.

241EBT1002
Apr 3, 2016, 8:13 pm

Oh good. I have Sweetland on hold at the library and I'm looking forward to giving Crummey a try.

Meanwhile, Eileen looks interesting and I already have Arab of the Future on hold at the library.

>239 charl08: Beautiful.

242msf59
Apr 3, 2016, 8:24 pm

>234 charl08: I was also a fan of Sweetland. Such a good book. Galore was also terrific.

>239 charl08: I like the Cavafy poem. Thanks for sharing.

243BLBera
Apr 3, 2016, 9:48 pm

Love the poem, Charlotte.

244The_Hibernator
Apr 3, 2016, 11:51 pm

Thanks for sharing the poem Charlotte!

245charl08
Apr 4, 2016, 2:43 am

>240 Storeetllr: Hope you like Sansom. I also like his 'County Guide' series. Glad to hear your library is so organised and well run.

>241 EBT1002: Sounds like you have plenty to keep you busy there!

>242 msf59: I'll keep my eyes open for a copy of his other books Mark.

I am enjoying poetry month so far! Fun to see around the threads what appeals to us.

246charl08
Apr 4, 2016, 2:46 am

> 243 He writes beautifully, Beth. I have a copy of his collected verse around here somewhere, I should dig it out.

>244 The_Hibernator: You're welcome! It's a great one for exams or other stressful times (at least, that's my experience).

247avatiakh
Apr 4, 2016, 5:10 am

Just going to say hi.
I also enjoyed The Arab of the Future. I've still got to read Ayelet Gundar-Goshen's One Night, Markovitch which I got last year for my Thingaversary.

248msf59
Apr 4, 2016, 7:03 am

You should love Galore. Just sayin'...

249charl08
Edited: Apr 4, 2016, 7:24 am

>247 avatiakh: Thanks for visiting. Your photos of your recent trip have added a couple of new destinations to my wishlist. I thought One Night Markovitch was lovely. The kind of historical fiction I like.

>248 msf59: Wishlisted. Thanks Mark.

250Ameise1
Apr 4, 2016, 11:29 am

Hi Charlotte, One Night Markovitch goes on my library list.

251Crazymamie
Apr 4, 2016, 11:39 am

>239 charl08: Thanks for sharing. I loved that.

I am reading The Portable Veblen. Did I hear about it here? I'm trying to remember...

252Deern
Apr 4, 2016, 11:54 am

Beautiful poem, and you're right about the first stanza. Should Will print it and hang it over my desk.

253charl08
Apr 4, 2016, 12:49 pm

>250 Ameise1: She's a great writer I think Barbara. Hope you like it as much as I did.

>251 Crazymamie: I am reading it - but Kay / Ridgewaygirl has read and reviewed it. I'm being quite slow.

>252 Deern: It definitely lends itself to that!

254charl08
Edited: Apr 4, 2016, 12:53 pm

Another day, another poem. This one from the Scottish Makar (poet laureate equivalent).

From No. 115 dreams poem by Jackie Kay

The living room remembers Gran dancing to Count Basie.
The kitchen can still hear my aunts fighting on Christmas day.
The hall is worried about the loose banister.
The small room is troubled by the missing hamster.

Full poem here:
http://www.scottishpoetrylibrary.org.uk/poetry/poems/no-115-dreams

255charl08
Edited: Apr 4, 2016, 9:19 pm

Comfort reading is firmly on the menu - I tried to put my stuff in the lockers at the pool at an odd angle. My back did not appreciate this. Middlemarch is getting put back on the shelf until this is better.

256sibylline
Apr 4, 2016, 9:15 pm

I have Crummey's Galore around somewhere and haven't gotten to it yet, obviously I need to!

257charl08
Apr 4, 2016, 9:21 pm

>256 sibylline: I'm hoping to find a copy - sadly not at my library!

From current reading of A Manual for Cleaning Women
When I go out there I sort of cross my eyes, and when I call the patient’s name I smile at the mother or grandmother or foster care mom but I look at a third eye in their forehead. I learned this in Emergency. It’s the only way to work here, especially with all the crack babies and AIDS and cancer babies. Or the ones who will never grow up. If you look the parent in the eyes you will share it, confirm it, all the fear and exhaustion and pain. On the other hand once you get to know them, sometimes that’s all you can do, look into their eyes with the hope or sorrow you can’t express.

258Storeetllr
Apr 5, 2016, 1:21 am

>257 charl08: Oh. My. That is intense. Going to see if I can get this from the library as soon as I post this.

259susanj67
Apr 5, 2016, 4:30 am

>255 charl08: Charlotte, that sounds painful. I hope you recover quickly. Maybe you could read a book, just for some sort of diversion from your usual ac - oh, wait. Having tried Middlemarch last year, I agree that you need to be at peak fitness to give it a go :-)

260RidgewayGirl
Apr 5, 2016, 5:24 am

Charlotte, I hope your back improves quickly. No heavy books!

261charl08
Edited: Apr 5, 2016, 3:27 pm

>258 Storeetllr: It is part of a heartbreaking story about a young Mexican woman. This is not the kind of book you put down and forget.

>259 susanj67: Ha! This injury is surely evidence Exercise is bad for you... I did some of my laps, all the while thinking 'how am I going to get out of the pool again?!'

>260 RidgewayGirl: Thanks. I pledge to read everything digitally for a bit. At least until I get bored.

262charl08
Edited: Apr 5, 2016, 6:03 am

The avenue is lined with trees and that last morning it was foggy like an old Chinese painting. Just the sound of the tires and the wipers. Our leg chains made the sound of oriental instruments and the prisoners in orange jumpsuits swayed together like Tibetan monks. You laugh. Well, so did I.



From www.chinesemagic.com

263charl08
Edited: Apr 5, 2016, 9:16 am

Bean update

Gorgeous sunshine today (even better if you ignore the winds) and my later bean crop needed bigger pots...

264Crazymamie
Apr 5, 2016, 9:16 am

Look at those beans!! I'm so proud!

265jnwelch
Apr 5, 2016, 10:10 am

Cool beans, Charlotte. ("Cool beans" is an oddball favorable saying on this side of the pond).

Nice excerpt from A Manual for Cleaning Women. I just read this one from one of the Dolores and Sally stories ("Mama"), and liked it:

"Our mother wondered what chairs would look like if our knees bent the other way. What if Christ had been electrocuted? Instead of crosses on chains, everybody'd be running around wearing chairs around their necks."

Gives some interesting insight into how their mother looks at life. Why this, not that.

266Storeetllr
Apr 5, 2016, 2:41 pm

>263 charl08: Cool beans indeed! ;)

>258 Storeetllr: >261 charl08: It's waiting for me at the library "as we speak."

>262 charl08: Beautiful, both the image and the writing.

267charl08
Apr 5, 2016, 3:32 pm

>264 Crazymamie: Ha Mamie. I'm hoping they keep growing...

>265 jnwelch: I'd heard that but I had no idea that it was from American football.

I like your choice of quote too. The mother was quite a character.

>266 Storeetllr: A big cheer for Lucia Berlin (and the beans).

268charl08
Apr 5, 2016, 3:36 pm

Finished Manual for Cleaning Women and my American Duchess. I've been quoting from Berlin's book so no need to review at length I think. I liked the James but not up there with my favourites of hers. It was near perfect though when feeling rough last night. Distraction without demands.

269charl08
Apr 5, 2016, 4:40 pm

And another one - Anne Carson's The Beauty of the Husband, a poem about the end of a marriage.

Clothed in flames and rolling through the sky is how I felt the night he told me he had a mistress and with shy pride slid out a photograph.

His letters, we agree, were highly poetic. They fell into my life like pollen and stained it.

To say what letters contain is impossible.
Did you ever touch your tongue to a metal surface in winter—how it felt to not get a letter is easier to say.

270scaifea
Apr 6, 2016, 6:43 am

Oh, your beans look great! Well done, you!

271Carmenere
Apr 6, 2016, 6:57 am

Happy Wednesday, Charlotte! Beautiful, happy beans! Grow, grow, grow!!

OK, OK, I've been reading about Sweetland on almost all the threads I frequent. It's now on my wishlist! Is everyone happy?! ;0)

272msf59
Apr 6, 2016, 7:20 am

Happy Wednesday, Charlotte! It looks like everyone has been enjoying Cleaning Women and that does my heart proud. I have a lovely "keeper" copy of that one and look forward to revisiting it, sometime down the road.

What's up next for you?

273Deern
Apr 6, 2016, 7:29 am

Happy Wednesday! Cleaning Women is on my WL for the day when it gets cheaper...

The No 115 poem makes me sad now that my parents are putting the house on the market they built 38 years ago...

274charl08
Apr 6, 2016, 8:29 am

>270 scaifea: They'be been surprisingly successful. In a surprise move, three pepper seedlings have popped up - I had given up on them entirely.

>271 Carmenere: On everyone's behalf, I declare us happy :-)

>272 msf59: A keeper copy sounds like a great idea Mark. I am reading The Portable Veblen which is oddly charming. Plus wee bits here and there of various other non-fiction library books.

>273 Deern: Building your own house is pretty unusual here - can only imagine how difficult it must be for your folks. But maybe good too to get rid of the responsibility for maintaining a big house?

275RidgewayGirl
Apr 6, 2016, 8:32 am

Oddly charming is exactly what The Portable Veblen is.

276Deern
Apr 6, 2016, 8:36 am

>273 Deern: That's the reason they're selling it. Where I grew up, surprisingly many of the younger generation come back to live with their parents, often extending the house, or at least keep the option of living there one day. Well, I won't - so there's no point in struggling more and more every year to keep everything in order. But it will be strange for me as well, not being able to "come home" again into a house that only ever had us and has seen all of us (and has a couple of beloved pets buried in the garden...).

277charl08
Edited: Apr 6, 2016, 10:59 am

>275 RidgewayGirl: Thanks for the vote of confidence. I don't think I've ever read a novel where military medical trials and squirrels appear.

>276 Deern: I left an apple tree at one house, given by my gran. I still wish we'd dug it up and put it somewhere public so I could visit it.

278charl08
Apr 6, 2016, 10:15 am

Missing Out : in praise of the unlived life

I thought this book started really strongly, talking about the assumptions we make about the roads not taken and chances missed. Drawing together psychology and literary criticism, looking at definitions and etymology of words and terms linked to ideas of achievement and aspirations. However, it rather lost me in several places - particularly the long discussion of Othello, a play I don't have a lot if time for anyway, and particularly not in the context of a fine detail discussion of whether Desdemona's father wished for an adopted child or meant something else about knowing your child.

I'm not sure how much useful psychology you can do on the basis of literature from a different historical period. Perhaps this is not the thing to say, but we may all be basically the same humans, but we hold very different views on (say) slavery or the abilities and opportunities for men and women than in Shakespeare's time. I liked this quote from Harold Bloom though
If you don't believe in your reading then don't bother anyone else with it, but if you do, then don't care also whether anyone else agrees with it or not.

279Crazymamie
Apr 6, 2016, 10:19 am

Happy Wednesday, Charlotte! Sorry that Missing Out was a miss for you. Ha! It does sound like it started with a bang, so it's a shame it didn't hold up. I LOVE the quote by Harold Bloom.

I am also reading The Portable Veblen and think "oddly charming" captures the feel of it perfectly.

Please give the beans my love.

280Helenliz
Apr 6, 2016, 11:42 am

>276 Deern: For some people that's such a wrench. It was for me. We sold my childhood home last year, having lived there for 39 years, and not being able to "go home", despite not having lived there in over 25 years, was really very very odd.

281charl08
Apr 6, 2016, 12:27 pm

>279 Crazymamie: Thanks Mamie - waving at the beans on your behalf.

>280 Helenliz: All this house discussion is reminding me of the U A Fanthorpe poem about house maintenance.

282charl08
Apr 6, 2016, 12:28 pm

Now reading Hunger a makes me a modern girl. A novel change from the whimsy.

283charl08
Apr 6, 2016, 2:44 pm

Daylight Saving Time Flies Like an Instagram of a Weasel Riding a Woodpecker & You Feel Everything Will Be Alright

BY REGIE CABICO
The giant Slinky
of Spring approaches
& I have nothing
to sport after spending
a fortune on hooded
sweaters that make
me look like I’m searching
for the Holy Grail.

For the rest of the poem:
http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/poem/252156

284BLBera
Apr 6, 2016, 2:47 pm

Hi Charlotte - The Portable Veblen will be my next read. Love the poetry.

Good looking beans.

285jnwelch
Apr 6, 2016, 2:49 pm

>283 charl08: "Like" the whole poem

286charl08
Apr 6, 2016, 4:16 pm

>284 BLBera: Hope you like it Beth. I'm a fan.

>285 jnwelch: Made me laugh Joe. :-)

287vancouverdeb
Apr 6, 2016, 5:43 pm

Hi Charlotte! Gorgeous Chinese image @ 262 and nice work with the beans! Glad that you are enjoying The Portable Veblen. That one is on order at my library so I am going to wait for it to turn up at the library. Ruby sounds interesting but quite dark. I have finished The Book of Memory but I have yet to consider on my comments / review. I did find it quite dark in places, but overall it was a great read, so thanks for the recommendation.

Like the poem - love Daylight Saving! I love that extra hour at the end of day :)

288charl08
Edited: Apr 6, 2016, 7:11 pm

Phew Deborah - I had a major case if book recommender anxiety. But I reassured myself with the knowledge that the women's prize longlist was really responsible (!!!)

I've got distracted from Veblen with Hunger Makes me a Modern Girl. I have no idea who Bikini Kill are (or were) but she describes the experience of teenaged listening to favourite musicians pretty well.
...hearing Bikini Kill was like having someone illuminate my world for the first time. Here was a narrative that I could place myself inside. ...I could turn the volume up on their songs and that loudness matched all my panic and fear, anger and emotions.... It's hard to express how profound it is to have your experience broadcast back to you for the first time, how shocking it feels to be acknowledged, as if your own sense of realness had only existed before as a concept.

289msf59
Apr 6, 2016, 7:07 pm

Ooh, I have Hunger Makes me a Modern Girl saved on audio. I love Brownstein and I love Sleator-Kinney. Better move it up the stack.

290Deern
Apr 7, 2016, 5:21 am

Just read the amazon description of The Portable Veblen and don't know... it sounds like a promo for a bad chick-lit novel. But seeing you and others like it I'm getting the sample. I should wait anyway till the price drops a bit. Very original cover!
Got the sample for the "Hunger" book as well, but it also still costs a bit too much.
Since I switched to amazon IT with my Kindle I even have to pay for the classics that were free on amazon US... stupid rights and tax issues with e-books :(

291charl08
Apr 7, 2016, 7:50 am

>289 msf59: I love digital music - I have been listening to the bands she mentions in the book that I missed first time round.

>290 Deern: There's a great review of Veblen here
https://www.librarything.com/topic/219159#5516584 I'm not sure I'd buy it. Sorry about the rights. I get mad just looking st the different US prices for books that cost a fortune here.

292charl08
Edited: Apr 7, 2016, 12:07 pm

Griffin and Sabine

I love the idea of this - correspondence between a designer of art postcards. Includes letters you can take from the envelope, and beautiful art.



293charl08
Edited: Apr 7, 2016, 4:22 pm

In the Middle of Dinner

BY CHRIS ABANI
my mother put down her knife and fork,
pulled her wedding ring from its groove,
placing it contemplatively on her middle
finger. So natural was the move,
so tender, I almost didn’t notice.

Full poem (and biography, bibliography, more poems) here:
http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/237396

294BLBera
Apr 7, 2016, 4:17 pm

I'm loving the poetry.

I read Griffin and Sabine years ago; it's so pretty.

I skimmed your comments on The Portable Veblen; I don't like to read too much about things I'm getting ready to read.

295charl08
Apr 7, 2016, 4:25 pm

Beth, I think it's amazing how much poetry is now available online. We I was reading On Elizabeth Bishop I almost expected it, given the time that has passed since she published. Nice to find that new poets too make their work available.

I didn't realise until I googled for a picture of the cover that it is the first of three - looking forward to finding the others too.

296charl08
Apr 7, 2016, 6:28 pm

Finished The Portable Veblen. I have no idea how to sum up this book. Will think on.

297charl08
Edited: Apr 7, 2016, 6:46 pm

Updated women's fiction prize longlist

Kate Atkinson: A God in Ruins in the TBR pile

Shirley Barrett: Rush Oh!

Cynthia Bond: Ruby currently reading

Geraldine Brooks: The Secret Chord

Becky Chambers: The Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet

Jackie Copleton: A Dictionary of Mutual Understanding


Rachel Elliott: Whispers Through a Megaphone on order at the library

Anne Enright: The Green Road

Petina Gappah: The Book of Memory

Vesna Goldsworthy: Gorsky

Clio Gray: The Anatomist’s Dream

Melissa Harrison: At Hawthorn Time

Attica Locke: Pleasantville

Lisa McInerney: The Glorious Heresies

Elizabeth McKenzie: The Portable Veblen

Sara Nović: Girl at War


Julia Rochester: The House at the Edge of the World

Hannah Rothschild: The Improbability of Love

Elizabeth Strout: My Name is Lucy Barton ordered at the library

Hanya Yanagihara A Little Life

My pick for the shortlisting hasn't changed - I liked Veblen and Girl at War but not enough.

Geraldine Brooks: The Secret Chord
I thought she imagined biblical David's life convincingly.
Anne Enright: The Green Road
I loved the story of a family spreading out around the world.
Petina Gappah: The Book of Memory
Not perfect, but lots of good stuff as a woman looks back at her life from her Zimbabwean prison cell.
Shirley Barrett Rush Oh!
Striking historical account of whaling community in Australia, but it's the humour that made me admire the book.

Still nothing that has dramatically won me over yet from thinking that The Green Road should probably win...

298Deern
Apr 8, 2016, 12:19 am

That poem hit home very much, as today it's a year since my ex left me and stopped all communication. Unfortunately I'm not yet at the point where that wife is, but I hope it won't take me 5 years. *sigh* .

I notice you haven't read the Yanagihara which has good chances to win imo, many had put their bets on it for the Booker 2015. Are you planning to or do you (understandably given the plot) give it a pass? I rated it quite highly, but in retrospect it has lost a bit (too many unrealistic elements to balance out all the violence) and I certainly won't reread.

299charl08
Edited: Apr 8, 2016, 4:04 am

>298 Deern: Hope it wasn't too close to the bone Nathalie. I didn't realise Abani wrote poetry (I've read Graceland) until looking at the website. I will have to seek out his work.

I am avoiding Yanagihara, well spotted. Mostly this is due to reading her earlier book The People in the Trees, which was well done, but featured a thoroughly creepy narrator. I admired how she had produced something so compelling, but am not rushing to read another one like it. I'll probably pick it up if it wins.