This site uses cookies to deliver our services, improve performance, for analytics, and (if not signed in) for advertising. By using LibraryThing you acknowledge that you have read and understand our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy. Your use of the site and services is subject to these policies and terms.
  • LibraryThing
  • Book discussions
  • Your LibraryThing
  • Join to start using.

karenmarie's 2017 reading and occasional other nonsense - part 11

75 Books Challenge for 2017

Join LibraryThing to post.

Edited: Nov 3, 2017, 8:59am Top

Welcome to my Eleventh thread of 2017. Thanks to all who visit!

This has been an amazingly busy and life-changing year so far. Husband started a new job in January and is happy in it, daughter is making go-back-to-school noises (I’m not holding my breath but do hope), and I’ve had to get through the estate issues relating to my mother’s death last December and the ensuing troubles with my Brother-in-Law and sister. My sister and I are back on an even keel, thank goodness.

My goal is to read a minimum of 100 books this year. I've read 81, with two more guaranteed related to the Bible As Literature year-long read, and I'm feeling good about hitting the goal.

I am reading the Literary Study Bible for the entire year, and am tracking the number of pages read. I'll update it at the end of every month. I've graduated from the Old Testament to the New Testament and start John in a day or so.


Mom with a handful – my brother Doug, Mom, me, my sister Laura. This would have been in 1957 in Hawthorne, California. Notice the weeds in the back raised bed (which went across the entire width of our lot!) Neither Mom nor Dad cared a whit about gardening.

My take on the Pearl Rule:

Karen's Rule "If for any reason you don't want to continue reading a book, put it down. You may keep it, get rid of it, re-start it, never finish it, finish it from where you left off, but put it down." A different way of saying it is that I abandon books with glee if they're not working for me.

Apologies to SuziQoregon (Juli) - I have appropriated your 2016 subject line because I like it so much!

Edited: Nov 19, 2017, 7:21am Top

Books read in 2017

01. Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them: The Original Screenplay by J. K. Rowling 1/1/17 1/3/17 **** 318 pages hardcover
02. The Stolen Bride by Jo Beverley 1/3/17 1/3/17 ** 269 pages trade paperback
03. The Patriotic Murders by Agatha Christie 1/8/17 1/9/17 *** 211 pages hardcover
04. Black Coffee by Agatha Christie 1/10/17 1/11/17 ***1/2 184 pages hardcover
05. The Regatta Mystery and Other Stories by Agatha Christie 1/13/17 1/14/17 ***1/2 185 pages hardcover
06. American Tabloid by James Ellroy 1/4/16 1/19/17 **** 592 pages trade paperback
07. Talking to the Dead by Harry Bingham 1/23/17 1/26/17 **** 378 pages Kindle
08. Witches of Lychford by Paul Cornell 1/27/17 1/27/17 ***1/2 144 pages trade paperback
09. The Strange Death of Fiona Griffiths by Harry Bingham 1/28/17 1/29/17 **** 398 pages Kindle
10. Sad Cypress by Agatha Christie 1/29/17 1/30/2017 ***1/2 201 pages hardcover
11. One Good Turn by Carla Kelly 1/31/17 1/31/17 **** 215 pages mass market paperback
12. The Old Man and the Sea by Ernest Hemingway 2/4/17 2/5/17 ***1/2 140 pages hardcover
13. The Dutiful Daughter by Vanessa Gray 2/1/17 2/5/17 ** 216 pages mass market paperback
14. Verdict of Twelve by Raymond Postgate 2/6/17 2/7/17 *** 250 pages trade paperback
15. The Crossing by Michael Connelly 2/8/17 2/10/17 ***1/2 388 pages hardcover
16. The Wrong Side of Goodbye by Michael Connelly 2/10/17 2/12/17 **** 400 pages hardcover
17. My Dark Places by James Ellroy 2/13/17 2/16/17 **** 427 pages trade paperback
18. Jeremy Poldark by Winston Graham 2/17/17 2/19/17 **** 344 pages trade paperback
19. This Thing of Darkness by Harry Bingham 2/21/17 2/24/17 **** Kindle 562 pages trade paperback
20. Bleak House by Charles Dickens 2/1/17 2/27/17 Kindle 830 pages hardcover
21. Lincoln in the Bardo by George Saunders 2/20/17 3/1/17 ***** 343 pages hardcover
** The Xibalba Murders by Lyn Hamilton abandoned after 122 pages read
22. Warleggan by Winston Graham 2/27/17 3/9/17 **** 471 pages trade paperback
23. The Black Moon by Winston Graham 3/10/17 3/13/17 ****546 pages trade paperback
24. The Pale Horse by Agatha Christie 3/14/17 3/18/17 **1/2 214 pages hardcover
25. The Four Swans by Winston Graham 3/19/17 581 pages trade paperback 1976
26. Birds Art Life: A Year of Observation by Kyo Maclear 3/28/17 3/29/17 ****1/2 221 pages
27. His Excellency: George Washington by Joseph J. Ellis 3/1/17 to 4/3/17 **** audiobook, 14.75 hours unabridged
28. The Angry Tide by Winston Graham 3/30/17 4/9/17 **** 612 pages trade paperback
29. The Twelve Terrors of Christmas by John Updike 4/13/17 4/13/17 12 pages hardcover
30. Amok by Stefan Zweig 4/14/17 to 4/14/17 ***1/2 121 pages hardcover
31. The Stranger from the Sea by Winston Graham 4/9/17 4/17/17 ***1/2 499 pages trade paperback
32. Dreams From My Father by Barack Obama 4/3/17 4/19/17 ****1/2 audiobook, 7.5 hours abridged
33. The Big Year by Mark Obmascik 248 pages, 253 pages trade paperback 4/18/17 4/21/17 **** 250 pages trade paperback
34. The Miller's Dance by Winston Graham 4/22/17 4/26/17 **** 485 pages trade paperback
35. The Dead House by Harry Bingham 5/1/17 5/4/17 **** 500 pages trade paperback
36. Spring Fever by Mary Kay Andrews 5/6/17 5/8/17 *** 402 pages trade paperback
37. The Twisted Sword by Winston Graham 5/9/17 5/12/17 **** 645 pages trade paperback
38. Bella Poldark by Winston Graham 5/12/17 5/17/17 ***1/2 704 pages trade paperback read as e-book on Kindle
39. Shoeless Joe by W.P. Kinsella 5/17/18 5/22/17 ****1/2 272 pages trade paperback read as e-book on Kindle
40. The Monogram Murders by Sophie Hannah 5/23/17 5/25/17 *** 384 pages hardcover
41. The Lost City of the Monkey God by Douglas Preston 5/25/17 5/28/17 *** 336 pages hardover
42. Ladies' Night by Mary Kay Andrews 5/28/17 6/1/17 *** 582 page mass market paperback
43. Midnight Crossroad by Charlaine Harris 6/1/17 6/6/17 *** 305 pages hardcover
44. A Cup of Light by Nicole Mones 6/10/17 6/12/17 **** 292 pages trade paperback
45. Festive in Death by J.D. Robb 6/12/17 6/16/17 ***1/2 389 pages hardcover
46. Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone by J.K. Rowling 4/20/17 -5/8/17 and 6/10/17 - 6/22/17 **** audiobook 8.3 hours unabridged
47. Sapiens by Yuval Noah Harari 3/16/17 6/29/17 ****1/2 416 pages hardcover
48. Home by Harlan Coben 6/29/17 7/1/17 **** 442 pages mass market paperback
49. The Deepest Grave by Harry Bingham 7/1/17 7/4/17 **** 454 pages trade paperback
50. Sharp Objects by Gillian Flynn 7/4/17 7/6/17 ***1/2 252 pages hardcover
51. Dark Places by Gillian Flynn 7/7/17 7/9/17 **** 538 pages mass market paperback
52. Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets by J.K. Rowling 6/23/17 7/14/17 **** audiobook 8.3 hours unabridged
53. An Atlas of Countries That Don't Exist by Nick Middleton 7/14/17 7/16/17 **** 240 pages hardcover
54. Cocaine Blues by Kerry Greenwood 7/14/17 7/16/17 ***1/2 175 pages trade paperback
55. The Stranger by Harlan Coben 07/16/17 7/17/17 **** 449 pages mass market paperback
56. The Blackhouse by Peter May 7/18/17 7/22/17 ****1/2 479 pages trade paperback
57. The Lewis Man by Peter May 7/22/17 7/25/17 ****1/2 418 pages trade paperback
58. Born a Crime by Trevor Noah 7/24/17 7/27/17 **** 8.75 hours audiobook
59. The Crying of Lot 49 by Thomas Pynchon 7/30/17 8/3/17 ** 152 pages trade paperback
60. Raven Black by Ann Cleeves 8/3/17 8/8/17 *** 376 pages trade paperback
61. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban by J.K. Rowling 7/14/17 8/11/17 **** audiobook
62. Kafka on the Shore by Haruki Murakami 7/30/17 8/12/17 467 pages trade paperback
63. A Cotswold Killing by Rebecca Tope 8/12/17 8/14/17 *** 1/2 288 pages Kindle
64. The Late Show by Michael Connelly 8/14/17 8/17/17 **** 448 pages hardcover
65. The Last Anniversary by Liane Moriarty 8/17/17 ****1/2 388 pages trade paperback
66. Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children 8/23/17 8/30/17 by Ransom Riggs **1/2 352 pages trade paperback
67. The Killings at Badger's Drift by Caroline Graham 8/30/17 9/2/17 **** 261 pages trade paperback
68. Magpie Murders by Anthony Horowitz 9/2/17 to 9/9/17 **** 458 pages hardcover
69. A Gentleman in Moscow by Amor Towles 9/10/17 9/19/17 ***** 462 pages hardcover
70. Glass Houses by Louise Penny 9/19/17 9/23/17 ** 1/2 391 pages hardcover
71. Jack with a Twist by Brenda Janowitz 9/24/17 9/25/17 373 pages trade paperback
72. Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire by J.K. Rowling 8/11/17 9/29/17 **** audiobook
73. Astrophysics for People in a Hurry by Neil DeGrasse Tyson 9/26/17 9/30/17 208 pages hardcover
74. Olive Kitteridge by Elizabeth Strout 9/18/17 10/7/17 **** 270 pages trade paperback
75. 1066 and all That by W.C. Sellar and R.J. Yeatman 10/11/17 10/11/17 **** 115 pages hardcover
76. Missing, Presumed by Susie Steiner 10/7/17 10/12/17 ***1/2 404 pages hardcover
77. Rules of Civility by Amor Towles 10/10/17 10/16/17 **** 335 pages hardcover
78. The Wyndham Case by Jill Paton Walsh 10/17/17 10/20/17 *** 223 pages hardcover
79. Eve in Hollywood by Amor Towles 10/21/17 10/21/17 **** 75 pages e-book
80. Y is for Yesterday by Sue Grafton 10/20/17 10/23/17 ***1/2 483 pages hardcover
81. The Mysterious flame of Queen Loana by Umberto Eco 10/23/17 11/1/17 ***1/2 449 pages hardcover
82. Two Kinds of Truth by Michael Connelly 11/2/17 11/4/17 ***1/2 402 pages hardcover
83. The Day of the Triffids by John Wyndham 11/9/17 11/11/17 **** 216 pages hardcover
84. The Midnight Line by Lee Child 11/11/17 to 11/14/17 **** 368 pages hardcover
85. News of the World by Paulette Jiles 11/16/17 11/18/17 ****1/2 209 pages trade paperback

Come, Tell Me How you Live by Agatha Christie 11/18/17 188 pages hardcover 1946
The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle by Haruki Murakami 11/2/17 607 pages trade paperback 1995
Versus by Ogden Nash 10/25/17 164 pages hardcover 1950
The Righteous Mind: Why Good People are Divided by Politics and Religion by Jonathan Haidt 11/15/16 318 pages hardcover 2012
The Literary Study Bible by Leland Ryken and Philip Graham Ryken 1/1/17 1879 pages hardcover plus 18 pages Preface, Introduction, and Features 2007
The Complete Idiot's Guide to the Bible by James S. Bell Jr. and Stan Campbell 7/23/17 334 pages including Introduction

Edited: Nov 19, 2017, 7:25am Top

Adds in 2017

January - 18
1. Amazon Gift Card American Blood by James Ellroy suggested by Ameise1
2. Amazon Gift Card The Cold Six Thousand by James Ellroy suggested by Ameise1
3. Amazon The Wicked Girls by Alex Marwood - suggested by SGiV
4. Bookmooch hide and seek by Ian Rankin
5. Friend Louise Killer View by Ridley Pearson
6. Friend Nancy I Am Radar by Reif Larsen
7. Amazon Full Dark House by Christopher Fowler
8. Amazon The Assault by Harry Mulisch suggested by Paul C. and Anita
9. Bookmooch A Knife to Remember by Jill Churchill
10. Bookmooch Lost on Planet China by J. Maarten Troost
11. Amazon Quiet by Susan Cain
12. Bookmooch Creation by Gore Vidal
13. Amazon The Three-Body Problem
14. Mom Holy Bible
15. Mom Bottom Line's Secret Food Cures
16. Mom Bottom Line's Best-Ever Kitchen Secrets
17. Mom Bottom Line's Best-Ever Home Secrets
18. Mom Hummingbirds by Esther Qusada Tyrrell and Robert A. Tyrrell

February - 42
19. Amazon Verdict of Twelve by Raymond Postgate recommended by jillmwo Jill
20. Thrift Shop Idiot's Guide to Conversational Sign Language
21. Thrift Shop I Am America (And So Can You) by Stephen Colbert
22. Thrift Shop Night Film by Marisha Pessl
23. Thrift Shop The United States of Europe by T.R. Reid
24. Thrift Shop Tales of the South Pacific by James Michener
25. Thrift Shop Closed Casket by Agatha Christie
26. Thrift Shop Affliction by Laurell K. Hamilton
27. Thrift Shop Simply Tai Chi by Graham Bryant and Lorraine James
28. Thrift Shop Hegemony or Survival by Noam Chomsky
29. Thrift Shop Apes, Angels, and Victorians by William Levine
30. Thrift Shop My Reading Life by Pat Conroy
31. Thrift Shop Four in Hand by Stephanie Laurens
32. Amazon The Wrong Side of Goodbye by Michael Connelly
33. Circle City Books My Dark Places by James Ellroy
34. Amazon Racing the Devil by Charles Todd
35. Friend Karen The Trouble with Islam Today by Irshad Manji
36. Friend Karen Goddesses: An illustrated journey into the myths, symbols, and rituals of the goddess by Manuela Dunn Mascetti
37. Friend Karen The Eagle and The Rose by Rosemary Altea
38. Friend Karen Last Call by Daniel Okrent
39. Friend Karen Wildflowers in Color: Eastern Edition by Walter
40. Friend Karen Brooklyn by Colm Toibin
41. Friend Karen The Tiger's Wife by Tea Obreht
42. Friend Karen Blind Your Ponies by Stanley Gordon West
43. Friend Karen Half Asleep in Frog Pajamas by Tom Robbins
44. Friend Karen Jerusalem, Jerusalem by James Carroll
45. Friend Karen Sweet Thunder by Ivan Doig
46. Friend Karen The Warrior Queens by Antonia Fraser
47. Friend Karen Half the Sky by Nicholas D. Kristof
48. Friend Karen Invisible Acts of Power by Caroline Myss
49. Uncle Oren - New Testament
50. Thrift Shop - The Spanish Bride by Georgette Heyer
51. Kindle - The Strange Death of Fiona Griffiths by Harry Bingham
52. Kindle - This Thing of Darkness by Harry Bingham
53. Kindle - The Dead House by Harry Bingham
54. Amazon - Lincoln in the Bardo by George Saunders
55. Amazon - Warleggan by Winston Graham
56. Amazon - The Black Moon by Winston Graham
57. Amazon - The Four Swans by Winston Graham
58. Amazon - The Oxford Companion to the Bible
59. Costco - The Rainbow Comes and Goes by Anderson Cooper and Gloria Vanderbilt
60. Amazon - The Xibalba Murders by Lyn Hamilton

March - 7
61. Bookmooch - The Crying of Lot 49 by Thomas Pynchon
62. Amazon - A Closed and Common Orbit by Becky Chambers
63. Costco - Sapiens by Yuval Noah Harari
64. Amazon - My Brilliant Friend by Elena Ferrante
65. Amazon - The Angry Tide by Winston Graham
66. Amazon - The Stranger from the Sea by Winston Graham
67. Amazon - The Miller's Dance by Winston Graham

April - 64
68. Friends of the Library free for donating time - Dead Man's Time by Peter James
69. Friends of the Library free for donating time - The Greater Journey: Americans in Paris by David McCullough
70. Friends of the Library free for donating time - Viper Wine by Hermione Eyre
71. Amazon - A is for Arsenic by Kathryn Markup
72. Thrift Shop – You Suck by Christopher Moore
73. Thrift Shop – Mansfield Park Revisited by Joan Aiken
74. Thrift Shop – Festive in Death by J.D. Robb
75. Stasia - The Screwtape Letters by C.S. Lewis
76. Amazon – The Miller’s Dance
77. Amazon – The Stranger from the Sea
78. Amazon – The Angry Tide
79. - 123. Friends of the Library Book Sale: 45 books
The 26 Letters by Oscar Ogg
Astray by Emma Donoghue
Enemy Women by Penelope Jiles
The Prophet by Kahlil Gibran
Sharp Objects by Gillian Flynn
A Judgment in Stone by Ruth Rendell
Spring Fever by Mary Kay Andrews
The Darkest Secret by Alex Marwood
Not Dead Enough by Peter James
Dead Like You by Peter James
Not Dead Yet by Peter James
The Dark Forest by Cixin Liu
Death's End by Cixin Liu
The Book of Abraham by Marek Halter
Alexander Hamilton by Ron Chernow
Mass Market Paperback - O Jerusalem by Laurie R. King
Audiobook - Go Set a Watchman by Harper Lee
The Covenant by James Michener
Alaska by James Michener
Caribbean by James Michener
Chesapeake by James Michener
Return to Paradise by ... you guessed it..... James Michener
The Man of Property by John Galsworthy, slipcased
Amok by Stefan Zweig
The Life and Campaigns of Napoleon by M.A. Arnault and C.L.F. Panckoucke - 1852
Murder in the Cathedral by T.S. Eliot - 1935 - first US edition with tattered dust jacket
The Confessions of Nat Turner by William Styron
Mission to Malaspiga by Evelyn Anthony
The Poellenberg Inheritance by Evelyn Anthony
van Loon's Lives by Hendrik Willem van Loon
Adam and Eve and Pinch Me by Ruth Rendell
The Incongruous Spy by John le Carré - two novels, Call for the Dead and A Murder of Quality
The Twelve Terrors of Christmas by John Updike with Drawings by Edward Gorey
The Poems of James Russell Lowell
The Library Paradox by Catherine Shaw
The Victoria Vanishes by Christopher Fowler
Brother of the More Famous Jack by Barbara Trapido
The Ludwig Conspiracy by Oliver Pötzsch
The Missing File by D.A. Mishani
New Orleans Noir edited by Julie Smith
The Kookaburra Gambit by Claire McNab
Wartime Writings 1939-1944 by Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
Blackwater by Kerstin Ekman
Copper River by Willliam Kent Krueger
The Ogden Nash Pocket Book by Ogden Nash with Introduction by Louis Untermeyer
124. Cordelia by Winston Graham
125. Amazon – Peterson Guide to Eastern Birds by Roger Tory Peterson
126. Amazon – Bella Poldark by Winston Graham
127. Amazon – The Twisted Sword by Winston Graham
128. Amazon – The Loving Cup by Winston Graham
129. Bookmooch - Tomorrow Will Be Better by Betty Smith
130. Friend Louise - The Appeal by John Grisham
131. Costco - White Trash: The 400-Year Untold Story of Class in America by Nancy Isenberg

May - 6
132. Sanford PTO - Blood's a Rover by James Ellroy
133. Bookmooch - The Faith Club by Ranya Idliby, Suzanne Oliver, and Priscilla Warner
134. Amazon - The Monogram Murders by Sophie Hannah - Kindle
135. CVS - Ladies' Night by Mary Kay Andrews
136. Amazon Kindle - The Lost City of the Monkey God by Douglas Preston
137. Amazon Kindle - Bella Poldark by Winston Graham

June - 15
138. Diamond Bar FOL Bookstore - Midnight Crossing by Charlaine Harris
139. Diamond Bar FOL Bookstore - A Study in Scarlet/The Hound of the Baskervilles by A. Conan Doyle
140. Bookmooch - A Cup of Light by Nicole Mones
141. Amazon Kindle - The Man Who Could be King by John Ripin Miller
142. Amazon Kindle - This Side of Paradise by F. Scott Fitzgerald
143. Amazon - spill simmer falter wither by Sara Baume
144. Amazon - The Deepest Grave by Harry Bingham
145. LT ER book - An Atlas of Countries That Don't Exist by Nick Middleton
146. Walgreens - Home by Harlan Coben
147. Thrift Shop - Apprentice in Death by J.D. Robb
148. Amazon - Making the Mummies Dance by Thomas Hoving
149. Amazon - Lincoln in the Bardo audiobook
150. Amazon - Theft by Finding by David Sedaris
151. Mom's House - Franklin School Yearbook 1949
152. Mom's House - Franklin School Yearbook 1950

July - 23
153. Friend Karen - The Complete Idiot's Guide to the Bible by Bell and Campbell
154. Friend Karen - Beowulf Translated - Bilingual Edition by Seamus Heaney
155. Friend Karen - Into Africa: The Epic Adventures of Stanley and Livingstone by Martin Dugard
156. Friend Karen - The Way of the Shaman by Michael Harner
157. D&K Library - Faith and Works by Helen Zagat
158. D&K Library - You're Only Old Once!: A Book for Obsolete Children by Dr. Seuss
159. D&K Library - Ships by Enzo Angelucci
160. Thrift Shop - Julie & Julia by Julie Powell trade paperback to replace ratty mass market
161. Thrift Shop - Close by Martina Cole
162. Thrift Shop - Becoming Jane Austen by Jon Spence
163. Amazon - Cocaine Blues by Kerry Greenwood
164. McIntyre's - The Stranger by Harlen Coban
165. Amazon - Lillian Boxfish Takes a Walk by Kathleen Rooney
166. Louise - The Racketeer by John Grisholm
167. Amazon - Dangerous Lady by Martina Cole
168. Amazon - Lillian Boxfish Takes a Walk by Kathleen Rooney
169. Thrift Shop - The Demon in the House by Angela Thirkell
170. Thrift Shop - The Birds Fall Down by Rebecca West
171. Thrift Shop - Echoes in Death by J. D. Robb
172. Thrift Shop - A Single Man by Christopher Isherwood
173. Thrift Shop - Run by Ann Patchett
174. Amazon - Extraordinary People by Peter May
175. Bookmooch - Good Will Hunting: A Screenplay by Ben Affleck

August - 20
176. Amazon - MASH A Novel About Three Army Doctors by Richard Hooker
177. Thrift Shop - Captain Wentworth's Persuasion by Regina Jeffers
178. Bookmooch - The Beak of the Finch by Jonathan Weiner
179. Bookmooch - Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children by Ransom Riggs
180. Amazon - Kindle - A Cotswold Killing by Rebecca Tope
181. Amazon - Kindle - The Radium Girls by Kate Moore
182. Costco - The Last Anniversary by Liane Moriarty
183. Costo - The Late Show by Michael Connelly
184. Thrift Shop - Devoted in Death by J.D. Robb
185. Thrift Shop - Obsession in Death by J.D. Robb
186. Thrift Shop - Brotherhood in Death by J.D. Robb
187. Thrift Shop - The Ravenous Must by Karen Elizabeth Gordon
188. Thrift Shop - A Year with G.K. Chesteron edited by Kevin Belmonte
189. Thrift Shop - The No. 1 Ladies' Detective Agency by Alexander McCall Smith
190. Barnes & Noble - Pretty Girls by Karin Slaughter
191. Amazon - The Killings at Badger's Drift by Caroline Graham
192. Colepark Thrift Shop - Night of the Avenging Blowfish by John Welter
193. Amazon - The Luminaries by Eleanor Catton
194. Barnes & Noble - Astrophysics for People in a Hurry by Neil DeGrasse Tyson
195. Barnes & Noble - Y is for Yesterday by Sue Grafton

September - 17
196. Bookmooch - Old Filth by Jane Gardam
197. Amazon - Magpie Murders by Anthony Horowitz
198. Chapel Hill Friends of the Library Book Sale - Beautiful Ruins by Jess Walter
199. Chapel Hill Friends of the Library Book Sale - The Trespasser by Tana French
200. Chapel Hill Friends of the Library Book Sale - Truly Mady Guilty by Liane Moriarty
201. Amazon - A Gentleman in Moscow by Amor Towles
202. The Book of Love and Hate by Lauren Sanders
203. Amazon - Theodore Rex by Edmund Morris
204. Thrift Shop - Moo by Jane Smiley
205. Thrift Shop - Number 11 by Jonathan Coe
206. Thrift Shop - Jack with a Twist by Brenda Janowitz
207. Thrift Shop - November 22, 1963 by Adam Braver
208. Amazon - Glass Houses by Louise Penny
209. Amazon - Sleeping Beauties by Stephen King and Owen King
210. Thrift Shop - The Last Dragonslayer by Jasper Fforde
211. Thrift Shop - The Man Who Loved China by Simon Winchester
212. Thrift shop - Team of Rivals: The Political Genius of Abraham Lincoln by Doris Kearns Goodwin

October - 57
213. Bookmooch - Dead Wake: The Last Crossing of the Lusitania by Erik Larson
214. Amazon - The Midwich Cuckoos by John Wyndham
215. streamsong - The Sympathizer by Viet Thanh Nguyen
216. FotL Book Sale - 1066 and All That by W.C. Sellar & R.J. Yeatman
217. FotL Book Sale - A Suitable Boy by Vikram Seth
218. FotL Book Sale - America (The Book): A Citizen's Guide to Democracy Inaction by Jon Stewart, Ben Karlin, and David Javerbaum
219. FotL Book Sale - Aristophanes: The Frogs and the Birds by Aristophanes
220. FotL Book Sale - Aristotle and an Aardvark go to Washington by Thomas Cathcart and Daniel Klein
221. FotL Book Sale - Bright-sided: How the Relentless Promotion of Positive Thinking Has Undermined America by Barbara Ehrenreich
222. FotL Book Sale - Burning by Diane Johnson
223. FotL Book Sale - Canadian History for Dummies by Will Ferguson
224. FotL Book Sale - Complete Birds of North America by Jonathan Alderfer
225. FotL Book Sale - Death in the Garden by Elizabeth Ironside
226. FotL Book Sale - Do Not Say We Have Nothing by Madeleine Thein
227. FotL Book Sale - Double Negative by David Carkeet
228. FotL Book Sale - Eleanor Oliphant Is Completely Fine by Gail Honeyman
229. FotL Book Sale - George Washington's Secret Six: The Spy Ring That Saved the American Revolution by Brian Kilmeade and Don Yaeger
230. FotL Book Sale - Girl Waits with Gun by Amy Stwart
231. FotL Book Sale - In the Heart of the Sea: The Tragedy of the Whaleship Essex by Nathaniel Philbrick
232. FotL Book Sale - Islam For Dummies by Malcolm Clark
233. FotL Book Sale - J. D. Salinger: A Life by Kenneth Slawenski
234. FotL Book Sale - Letters of the Scattered Brotherhood by Mary Strong
235. FotL Book Sale - Murder at the Library of Congress by Margaret Truman
236. FotL Book Sale - My Life and Hard Times by James Thurber
237. FotL Book Sale - On the Road by Jack Kerouac
238. FotL Book Sale - Play It As It Lays by Joan Didion
239. FotL Book Sale - Someone at a Distance by Dorothy Whipple
240. FotL Book Sale - The African Queen by C.S. forester
241. FotL Book Sale - The Angel's Game by Carlos Ruiz Zafón
242. FotL Book Sale - The Bird Feeder Book: Attracting, Identifying, Understanding Feeder Birds by Donald and Lillian Stokes
243. FotL Book Sale - The Birdwatcher by William Shaw
244. FotL Book Sale - The Book of Merlyn by T.H. White
245. FotL Book Sale - The Chimney Sweeper's Boy by Barbara Vine
246. FotL Book Sale - The Compleat Angler by Izaak Walton
247. FotL Book Sale - The Day of the Triffids by John Wyndham
248. FotL Book Sale - The Fireside Watergate by Nicholas Von Hoffman
249. FotL Book Sale - The Last Stand: Custer, Sitting Bull, and the Battle of the Little Bighorn by Nathaniel Philbrick
250. FotL Book Sale - The Lola Quartet by Emily St. John Mandel
251. FotL Book Sale - The Minotaur by Barbara Vine
252. FotL Book Sale - The Paying Guests by Sarah Waters
253. FotL Book Sale - The Price of Salt by Patricia Highsmith
254. FotL Book Sale - The Secret Book of Grazia dei Rossi by Jacqueline Park
255. FotL Book Sale - The Secrets She Keeps by Michael Robotham
256. FotL Book Sale - The Singer's Gun by Emily St. John Mandel
257. FotL Book Sale - The Supremes at Earl's All-You-Can-Eat by Edward Kelsey Moore
258. FotL Book Sale - The Weekenders by Mary Kay Andrews
259. FotL Book Sale - This Must be the Place by Maggie O'Farrell
260. FotL Book Sale - Three by Finney by Jack Finney
261. FotL Book Sale - Two Lives by Vikram Seth
262. FotL Book Sale - We Hold These Truths by David S. Mitchell
263. Bookmooch - A Promise of Spring by Mary Balogh
264. Bookmooch - The Fox Inheritance by Mary E. Pearson
265. BooksAMillion - Eve in Hollywood by Amor Towles
266. Thrift Shop - Longbourn by Jo Baker
267. Amazon - The Watchmaker of Filigree Street by Natasha Pulley
268. Amazon - The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle by Haruki Murakami
269. Amazon - Two Kinds of Truth by Michael Connelly

November - 7
270. Amazon - News of the World by Paulette Jiles
271. Amazon - The Midnight Line by Lee Child
272. Thrift Shop - A Game of Thrones by George R.R. Martin
273. Amazon- One Coffee With by Margaret Maron
274. Friend Louise - Sullivan's Evidence by Nancy Taylor Rosenberg
275. Mom - Amazing Hummingbirds by Stan Tekiela
276. Friend Tamsie - Prayers for the Stolen by Jennifer Clement

Edited: Nov 3, 2017, 8:56am Top

Culls for 2017

1. The Stolen Bride by Jo Beverley Drivel
2. Defining the Wind by Scott Huler I will never read this book
3. Tishomingo Blues by Elmore Leonard started, abandoned
4. Touch by Elmore Leonard bookmooched but won't ever read
5. Tales of the South Pacific by James Michener duplicate
6. Tales of the South Pacific by James Michener triplicate
7. The United States of Europe by T.R. Reid duplicate
8. The Dutiful Daughter by Vanessa Gray too stupid to keep
9. A Darkness More Than Night by Michael Connelly duplicate
10. A Passage to India by E.M. Forster duplicate
11. A Tree Grows in Brooklyn by Betty Smith duplicate
12. A Tree Grows in Brooklyn by Betty Smith triplicate
13. A Woman of Independent Means by Elizabeth Forsythe Hailey duplicate
14. And Then There Were None by Agatha Christie duplicate
15. Angels Flight by Michael Connelly duplicate
16. Anna's Book by Ruth Rendell writing as Barbara vine duplicate with Asta's Book
17. Balthazar (Alexandria Quartet) by Lawrence Durrell duplicate
18. Black Orchids by Rex Stout duplicate
19. Clea (Alexandria Quartet) by Lawrence Durrell duplicate
20. Justine (Alexandria Quartet) by Lawrence Durrell duplicate
21. Mountolive (Alexandria Quartet) by Lawrence Durrell duplicate
22. A Darkness More Than Night by Michael Connelly duplicate
23. Dinner at Antoine's by Frances Parkinson Keyes duplicate
24. Portrait of a Killer: Jack the Ripper Case Closed by Patricia Cornwell duplicate
25. Gulliver's Travels by Jonathan Swift duplicate
26. Gulliver's Travels by Jonathan Swift triplicate
27. Cat People by Bill Hayward duplicate (I bought one copy, a friend gave me a second, so I'm keeping the second out of sentimentality)
28. The Xibalba Murders by Lyn Hamilton abandoned after 122 pages
29. A Spool of Blue Thread by Anne Tyler meh didn't want to read
30. The Spanish Bride by Georgette Heyer got a new trade paperback
31. David Coperfield by Charles Dickens, duplicate
32. Great Expectations by Charles Dickens, duplicate
33. Oliver Twist by Charles Dickens, duplicate
34. Cyrano de Bergerac by Edmond Rostand translation by Brian Hooker duplicate
35. The Canterbury Tales by Geoffrey Chaucer duplicate
36. The Power and the Glory by Graham Greene duplicate
37. The Elements of Style by Strunk and White
38. The Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck
39. Miracle in the Hills by Maqry T. Martin Sloop duplicate
40. Lord Jim by Joseph Conrad duplicate
41. Little Women by Louisa May Alcott
42. Joy in the Morning by Betty Smith duplicate
43. Roots by Alex Haley duplicate
44. Sons and Lovers by D.H. Lawrence duplicate
45. Tales of Beedle the Bard by J.K. Rowling duplicate
46. The Road by Cormac McCarthy duplicate
47. In Search of J.D. Salinger by Ian Hamilton duplicate (kept SGiV's copy)
48. Brat Farrar by Josephine Tey triplicate
49. Brat Farrar by Josephine Tey triplicate
50. The Daughter of Time by Josephine Tey triplicate
51. The Daughter of Time by Josephine Tey triplicate
52. The Franchise Affair by Josephine Tey duplicate
53. Miss Pym Disposes by Josephine Tey duplicate
54. A Shilling for Candles by Josephine Tey duplicate
55. The Singing Sands by Josephine Tey duplicate
56. The Bridge of San Luis Rey by Thornton Wilder duplicate in Thornton Wilder Trio
57. Alice in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass by Lewis Carroll triplicate
58. Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen duplicate
59. Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain duplicate
60. Casual Day Has Gone Too Far by Scott Adams duplicate, given to daughter
61. Clouds of Witness by Dorothy L. Sayers duplicate
62. Gaudy Night by Dorothy L. Sayers triplicate
63. Gaudy Night by Dorothy L. Sayers triplicate
64. Have His Carcase by Dorothy L. Sayers duplicate
65. Verdict of Twelve by Raymond Postgate don't want to keep
66. The Mayor of Castorbridge by Thomas Hardy duplicate
67. A Murder in Time by Julie McElwain don't want to keep
68. The Mayor of Casterbridge by Thomas Hardy triplicate
69. Up the Down Staircase by Bel Kaufman duplicate
70. Tarzan of the Apes by Edgar Rice Burroughs duplicate
71. The toplofty Lord Thorpe by Kasey Michaels 2.5 stars taking up shelf space
72. The Beleaguered Lord Bourne by Kasey Michaels 2.5 stars taking up shelf space
73. The Ruthless Lord Rule by Kasey Michaels 2.5 stars taking up shelf space
74. The Enterprising Lord Edward by Kasey Michaels 2.5 stars taking up shelf space
75. Journey to Ixtlan by Carlos Castaneda duplicate
76. Lucy: The Beginnings of Humankind by Donald Johanson duplicate
77. the lives and times of archy and mehitabel by don marquis duplicate
78. Lord Peter by Dorothy Sayers duplicate
79. QB VII by Leon Uris duplicate
80. Seabiscuit by Laura Hilldebrand duplicate
81. No Second Chance by Harlan Coben duplicate
82. The Tao of Pooh by Benjamin Hoff duplicate
83. the Floatplane Notebooks by Clyde Edgerton duplicate
84. Shining Through by Susan Isaacs duplicate
85. Red Sky at Morning by Richard Bradford duplicate
86. The Woods by Harlan Coben duplicate
87. The French Lieutenant's Woman by John Fowles duplicate
88. The Doorbell Rang by Rex Stout duplicate
89. The Doorbell Rang by Rex Stout triplicate
90. Tutankhamun:The Untold Story by Thomas Hoving duplicate
91. Tess of the D'Urbervilles by Thomas Hardy duplicate
92. The Return of the Native by Thomas Hardy duplicate
93. Far from the Madding Crowd by Thomas Hardy duplicate
94. Life's Little Instruction Book by H. Jackson Brown Jr. duplicate
95. The Sound and the Fury by William Faulkner duplicate, contained within anthology
96. The Wind in the Willows by Kenneth Grahame duplicate
97. Royal Escape by Georgette Heyer duplicate
98. Bulfinch's Mythology by Thomas Bulfinch duplicate
99. O Pioneers! by Willa Cather duplicate contained within anthology
100. The Vicar of Wakefield by Oliver Goldsmith duplicate
101. The Sherlock Holmes Novels by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle duplicate
102. Clouds of Witness by Dorothy Sayers duplicate
103. Unnatural Death by Dorothy Sayers duplicate
104. Whose Body? by Dorothy Sayers duplicate
105. The Unpleasantness at the Bellona Club by Dorothy Sayers duplicate
106. Busman's Honeymoon by Dorothy Sayers duplicate
107. The Nine Tailors by Dorothy Sayers duplicate
108. The Balloon Man by Charlotte Armstrong duplicate, contained within anthology
109. The Witch's House by Charlotte Armstrong duplicate, contained within anthology
110. The Gift Shop by Charlotte Armstrong duplicate, contained within anthology
111. The Turret Room by Charlotte Armstrong duplicate, contained within anthology
112. The Woman in White by Wilkie Collins duplicate
113. Austenland by Hale, Shannon 2.5 stars
114. The Far Traveler: Voyages of a Viking Woman by Brown, Nancy Marie 2.5 stars
115. Einstein's Dreams by Lightman, Alan 2.5 stars
116. The Private Diary of Mr. Darcy by Slater, Maya 2.5 stars
117. The Great Influenza (The Epic Story of the Deadliest Plague in History) by Barry, John M. 2.5 stars
118. 'Tis by McCourt, Frank 2.5 stars
119. Fire and Ice by Stuart, Anne 2 stars
120. Justinian's Flea: Plague, Empire, and the Birth of Europe by Rosen, William 2.5 stars
121. Fangs But No Fangs (The Young Brothers, Book 2) by Love, Kathy 2.5 stars
122. Fangs for the Memories (The Young Brothers, Book 1) by Love, Kathy 2.5 stars
123. I Only Have Fangs for You (The Young Brothers, Book 3) by Love, Kathy 2.5 stars
124. The Giver by Lowry, Lois 2.5 stars
125. The Member of the Wedding by McCullers, Carson 2 stars
126. The Assault by Harry Mulisch started it, didn't like it
127. My Brilliant Friend by Elena Ferrante started it, didn't like it
128. Astray by Emma Donoghue duplicate
129. van Loon's Lives by Henrik Willem van Loon duplicate
130. The Man of Property by John Galsworthy duplicate
131. Sandy Koufax - Strikeout King by Arnold Hano - will never read
132. Lincoln: A Life of Purpose and Power by Richard J. Carwardine started listening and didn't like the reader's voice and didn't like the tenor of the book
133. The World is Flat by Thomas L. Friedman - dated, boring
134. Ladies' Night by Mary Kay Andrews - bought in CA, not worth paying to ship home to NC
135. A Study in Scarlet/The Hound of the Baskervilles by A. Conan Doyle
136. Go Set a Watchman by Harper Lee audiobook, duplicate, 2nd one purchased better quality
137. The Judas Pair by Jonathan Gash
138. The Witches of Lychford by Paul Cornell
139. spill simmer falter wither by Sara Baume abandoned yeesh. depressing. And dogs.
140. Julie & Julia by Julie Powell mass market paperback replaced with trade paperback
141. The Perfect Husband by Lisa Gardner
142. Run by Ann Patchett
143. The Widow of the South by Robert Hicks
144. The Crying of Lot 49 by Thomas Pynchon blech
145. Ghost Stories from the American Southwest by Richard and Judy Dockrey Young - I took it off the shelf to scan the cover, looked through it, and realized I'd never, ever read it
146. Tales of the City by Armistead Maupin
147. More Tales of the City by Armistead Maupin
148. Further Tales of the City by Armistead Maupin
149. Significant Others by Armistead Maupin
150. Sure of You by Armistead Maupin
151. Babycakes by Armistead Maupin
152. Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children by Ransom Riggs
153. The Book of Love and Hate by Lauren Sanders - ER book, blech
154. Timequake by Kurt Vonnegut Jr. will never finish
155. Tree of Smoke by Denis Johnson will never finish
156. The World is Flat by Thomas L. Friedman will never read. started audiobook and hated it.
157. Jack with a Twist by Brenda Janowitz - cute little book but I'm going to start culling cute little books to make room for non-cute-little books
158. A Duty to the Dead by Charles Todd - duplicate
159. One Man's Bible - by Gao Xingjian - duplicate
160. 77 Shadow Street by Dean Koontz
161. carrie by Stephen King
162. Christine by Stephen King
163. Cold Fire by Dean Koontz
164. Cujo by Stephen King
165. dolores claiborne by Stephen King
166. Dragon Tears by Dean Koontz
167. False Memory by Dean Koontz
168. Firestarter by Stephen King
169. IT by Stephen King
170. Lightning by Dean Koontz
171. Nightmares and Dreamscapes by Stephen King
172. One door Away from Heaven by Dean Koontz
173. Pet Sematary by Stephen King
174. Seize the Night by Dean Koontz
175. Skeleton Crew by Stephen King
176. The Darkest Evening of the Year by Dean Koontz
177. The Eyes of the Dragon by Stephen King
178. The House of Thunder by Dean Koontz
179. The Shawshank Redemption by Stephen King
180. The Tommyknockers by Stephen King
181. What the Night Knows by Dean Koontz
182. Your Heart Belongs to Me by Dean Koontz
183. Pay Dirt by Rita Mae Brown
184. Murder at Monticello by Rita Mae Brown
185. Night of the Avenging Blowfish by John Welter nope nope nope
186. Being Dead by Jim Crace duplicate
187. The Kookaburra Gambit by Claire McNab just because

Edited: Nov 3, 2017, 8:57am Top

Year-to-Date Statistics through October 31

80 books read.
28622 pages read.
1,587 pages of The Literary Study Bible, 201 pages of The Complete Idiot's Guide to the Bible.
80.35 audiobook hours.

Male 60%
Female 40%

Living 75%
Dead 25%

US Born 41%
Foreign Born 59%

Hardcover 35%
Trade Pback 34%
Mass Market 8%
Audiobook 9%
e-Book 15%

My Library 95%
Other 5%

Re-read 6%
Series 55%

Fiction 88%
NonFiction 13%

Author Birth Country
Australia 4%
Austria 1%
Canada 1%
England 45%
Israel 1%
Japan 1%
Scotland 4%
South Africa 1%
US 41%

Original Year Published
1852 1%
1922 1%
1930 1%
1939 3%
1940 3%
1950 1%
1952 1%
1953 1%
1961 1%
1965 1%
1973 1%
1976 1%
1977 1%
1980 1%
1981 1%
1982 3%
1987 1%
1989 1%
1990 3%
1993 1%
1995 3%
1997 3%
1998 3%
1999 3%
2000 1%
2001 1%
2002 3%
2004 3%
2005 4%
2006 3%
2008 3%
2009 1%
2011 4%
2012 4%
2013 3%
2014 4%
2015 9%
2016 9%
2017 11%

Anthropology 1%
Biography 1%
Fantasy 9%
Fiction 16%
Geography 1%
Historical Fiction 13%
Literary Fiction 3%
Memoir 6%
Mystery 40%
Nature 1%
Romance 8%
Science 1%

Edited: Nov 3, 2017, 8:57am Top

A BOOK A YEAR FOR THE FIRST 64 YEARS OF MY LIFE, inspired by Paul Cranswick's list of books for his first 50 years.

The biggest takeaway I get from this list is the number of outstanding books I still need to read - most of the years have outstanding books that I haven't read yet.

1953 Nine Stories by J.D. Salinger
1954 Lord of the Flies by William Golding
1955 The Day Lincoln was Shot by Jim Bishop
1956 The Enormous Egg by Oliver Butterworth
1957 Ordeal by Innocence by Agatha Christie
1958 Anatomy of a Murder by Robert Traver
1959 Hawaii by James Michener
1960 To Kill a Mockingbird by Harper Lee
1961 Franny and Zooey by J.D. Salinger
1962 One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest by Ken Kesey
1963 Raise High the Roofbeam, Carpenters, and Seymour: An Introduction by J.D. Salinger
1964 Up the Down Staircase by Bel Kaufman
1965 The Source by James Michener
1966 Flowers for Algernon by Daniel Keyes
1967 Listen to the Warm by Rod McKuen
1968 The Teachings of Don Juan by Carlos Castaneda
1969 Slaughterhouse Five by Kurt Vonnegut Jr.
1970 QBVII by Leon Uris
1971 The Exorcist by William Peter Blatty
1972 The Optimist's Daughter by Eudora Welty
1973 W.C. Fields by Himself: His Intended Autobiography with Commentary by Ronald J. Fields
1974 The Killer Angels by Michael Shaara
1975 Crazy Salad by Nora Ephron
1976 Roots by Alex Haley
1977 In Patagonia by Bruce Chatwin
1978 Tutankhamun: The Untold Story by Thomas Hoving
1979 Sophie's Choice by William Styron
1980 A Delicate Arrangement : The Strange Case of Charles Darwin and Alfred Russel Wallace by Arnold C.
1981 Lucy: the Beginnings of Humankind by Donald C. Johansen
1982 Shoeless Joe by W.P. Kinsella
1983 The Name of the Rose by Umberto Eco
1984 Jitterbug Perfume by Tom Robbins
1985 Lennon by Ray Coleman
1986 The Prince of Tides by Pat Conroy
1987 And the Band Played On: Politics, People and the Aids Epidemic by Randy Shilts
1988 Battle Cry of Freedom by James McPherson
1989 It's Always Something by Gilda Radner
1990 In Pursuit of the Green Lion by Judith Merkle Riley
1991 Outlander by Diana Gabaldon
1992 The Black Echo by Michael Connelly
1993 The Shipping News by Annie Proulx
1994 Stones from the River by Ursula Hegi
1995 Longitude by Dava Sobel
1996 Alias Grace by Margaret Atwood
1997 Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone by J.K. Rowling
1998 The Professor and the Madman by Simon Winchester
1999 Girl with a Pearl Earring by Tracy Chevalier
2000 Founding Brothers: The Revolutionary Generation by Joseph J. Ellis
2001 Peace Like a River by Leif Enger
2002 Kafka on the Shore by Haruki Murukami
2003 A Short History of Nearly Everything by Bill Bryson
2004 11,000 Years by Peni R. Griffin
2005 The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo by Stieg Larsson
2006 The Road by Cormac McCarthy
2007 The Yiddish Policeman's Union by Michael Chabon
2008 The Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society by Mary Ann Shaffer
2009 Under the Dome by Stephen King
2010 Room by Emma Donoghue
2011 11/22/63 by Stephen King
2012 The Light Between Oceans by M.L. Stedman
2013 Z: A Novel of Zelda Fitzgerald by Therese Anne Fowler
2014 The Goldfinch by Donna Tartt
2015 The Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet by Becky Chambers
2016 A Gentleman in Moscow by Amor Towles
2017 Lincoln in the Bardo by George Saunders

Nov 3, 2017, 8:54am Top

Next one's yours!

Nov 3, 2017, 8:59am Top

Happy new thread, Karen! Thanks for continuing to share family photos; always nice to see them!

Nov 3, 2017, 9:52am Top

Congratulations on your latest thread, Karen. You are now nestled in the top ten for posts and possibly still climbing!

Nov 3, 2017, 10:29am Top

New thread blessings, Mme TVT du Horrible.

Nov 3, 2017, 10:35am Top

Happy new thread, Karen. You sure are zipping along!

Edited: Nov 3, 2017, 10:55am Top

>8 harrygbutler: Thank you Harry. I've been scanning in photos this year and have enjoyed my new tradition of sharing at the top of my threads.

>9 PaulCranswick: Hi Paul, and thank you! This is a banner year for me, posting-wise, and I am having so much fun. Thanks to all my dear LT friends for joining me here!

>10 richardderus: My favorite season, for sure, RD! Thank you, thank you. Yes. Mme TVT du Horrible. It has a nice ring to it!

>11 jessibud2: Hi Shelley. I am. It's looking like I'll have about one per month for the year, a stunning uptick for me.


Here's a bit of excitement: Louise, my friend and neighbor, said she'd meet me at the top of my drive this morning so I could give her her husband's electric razor. It had come apart, and she and I couldn't get it back together, so I knew my husband could reassemble it. He did, I've had it here for a week. She was using the backup razor and her husband (who is in a memory unit but she goes every other day or so) was complaining that the razor hurt his face.

All that in prep to say that she called on her cell phone at 9:30, at the top of my drive (about 250 feet away from the Sunroom). I grabbed the razor and my binoculars, and we stood at the top of the drive for about 15 minutes or so and I saw my first Yellow-Rumped Warbler. Or, Myrtle Warblers, as Louise still calls them. I know why they are called Myrtle Warblers - my drive is lined with Wax Myrtles (on the left in this photo) and the birds were having a field day with the little tiny gray berries.

Nov 3, 2017, 11:19am Top

Happy New Thread, Karen. Love your family photo.

Hooray for the yellow-rump. Congrats. They have been pretty common here.

Nov 3, 2017, 11:25am Top

Happy New Thread, Karen!

I like your version of the Pearl Rule. As you say, you can come back to it if you want later. And I've done that a time or two.

Nov 3, 2017, 11:52am Top

Happy New Thread, Karen! Great topper photo - good idea with the photo sorting and scanning.

>12 karenmarie: I love the story about the myrtle warblers. I don't think I've ever seen a myrtle tree - much less a myrtle warbler.

Nov 3, 2017, 11:54am Top

More photos, more books, more Karen!!

Nov 3, 2017, 11:59am Top

Happy new thread. Loved your bird story. Sounds like a lovely way to start the day.

Nov 3, 2017, 12:42pm Top

Happy new thread, Karen!
I like the pictures of your youth :-)

Nov 3, 2017, 12:55pm Top

Happy new thread!

Nov 3, 2017, 1:48pm Top

>13 msf59: Thanks, Mark! I love the idea of using family photos for thread toppers from now on.

Louise has been telling me that Yellow-Rumped Warblers are common here, but I hadn’t actually SEEN one, so today was special.

>14 jnwelch: Thanks, Joe. Reading should not be homework. I abandon books with glee. And starting this year, I have kept track of those pages for my 34,000 page goal.

>15 streamsong: Thanks, Janet. My husband had the wax myrtles planted while I was in the blur of full time job, full time child, full time volunteer work. We had something else there before, but I can’t remember what they were.

>16 Berly: Hi Berly! Fun times here in LT land, for sure. Thanks for visiting.

>17 RebaRelishesReading: Thanks, Reba. It was fun. I forgot to mention above that Louise said “I’ll make a birder out of you yet!”

>18 FAMeulstee: Thanks, Anita. They bring back happy memories, for sure.

>19 drneutron: Thanks, Jim!

I just spent two hours writing an e-mail letter to my dear friend Karen in Montana. Today’s her birthday and I owed her an e-mail from a month ago. Check that off my list and now it’s finally time to read.

Nov 3, 2017, 2:36pm Top

Happy new one, Karen!

Edited: Nov 3, 2017, 4:02pm Top

Happy New Thread, Karen!

I've never seen a Yellow-rumped Warbler but all-about-birds says they don't come to my neighborhood. I need to watch for its cousin, an Audubon's Warbler, instead....

Edited: Nov 3, 2017, 5:39pm Top

Hi Ellen!

Amazing - I see the same exact pictures, and lumping them all together as Yellow-Rumped in 1973 was quite possibly a mistake as there is evidence that there are three separate species that are really different. Goodbye Yellow-Rump

Perhaps back to Myrtle Warbler and Audubon's Warbler? Thanks for sharing!

Nov 3, 2017, 5:56pm Top

Hi Karen, Happy new thread my dear, hope you are having a good day and we both send love and hugs dear friend.

Nov 3, 2017, 7:17pm Top

>23 karenmarie: Yeah, I read that same thing and it was pretty interesting. I noticed that Mark rather casually mentioned seeing a yellow-dumped warbler over on his thread and now I am determined to see one in my lifetime.

Nov 3, 2017, 11:08pm Top

Happy New Thread, for sure, Karen! I'm happy about your bird sightings. If they don't come to our feeders, I miss them.

Nov 3, 2017, 11:17pm Top

I can just about identify a seagull with confidence, I feel all smug about it, and some birder says "what kind?"

What kind of what?

"Seagull! A misty-throated blue? A hilarious hyenoid?"

Dude, ENGLISH is the mother tongue here, WTF are you on about? Seagulls are seagulls are seagulls, like that funny-looking little one down there!

"...that's a pied oyster catcher...*sigh*"

That is NOT a real thing. You totally made that up!

...but nooooo...

Nov 4, 2017, 5:56am Top

>24 johnsimpson: Hi John! I had a relaxing day yesterday (code for: didn't do a damned thing except read, write an e-mail, and watch The Vietnam War series, finishing the last two episodes.)

>25 EBT1002: I hope you do, too, Ellen. You should be seeing some different birds there in Asheville visiting your sister.

>26 LizzieD: Hi Peggy! It's been slim pickings at the feeders since there's so much food in the wild. But I've seen more cardinals and a few jays.

>27 richardderus: You've got 20 Gulls to choose from, according to the Cornell Lab of Ornithology's website. I like your names for them better. And Oystercatchers are beautiful birds.....

I hate being up this early. I've had one sip of coffee. I'll do a bit of thread visiting and then read.

Nov 4, 2017, 7:07am Top

Morning, Karen. Happy Saturday. You are up early. I am downing my second cup of coffee and getting ready to head out to work.

Enjoy your day!

Nov 4, 2017, 8:11am Top

>29 msf59: Hi Mark! I hope your work day goes well.

I'm leaving in half an hour to go to the annual meeting of the North Carolina Friends of the Library Association with our President and one of the Board Members.

Nov 4, 2017, 9:25am Top

>30 karenmarie: Safe journey and happy return, Mme TVT du Horrible.

Nov 4, 2017, 8:16pm Top

>12 karenmarie: Good story Karen! I bet you'll be seeing more of them now.

>22 EBT1002: Aren't they cute!

>30 karenmarie: Hope you had a good trip Karen

Nov 5, 2017, 1:29am Top

>22 EBT1002: that's tiny!

PS, Im with RD on the seagulls thing ;)

Glad you got to see a rare bird on your trip to the end of the driveway :)

Nov 5, 2017, 6:39am Top

>31 richardderus: Thanks, RD! It was an interesting meeting, much smaller than I expected, frankly. There was some networking, but the format didn't make that easy. And there wasn't much time left after some bloviating for a group question-and-answer session. HOWEVER, I'm glad we went and we'll join. It's only $35/year, after all.

>32 EllaTim: I hope so, Ella. All I have to do is spend some time out at the wax myrtles in the morning.

>33 LovingLit: I think RD's names are much better, although there are some wonderful official names - if I get some time I'll peruse the Guide to N. American Birds and see what I come up with.

Yes. Rare. *smile* The trips to the end of the driveway are what's rare.




Dratted time change.

Edited: Nov 5, 2017, 7:52am Top

Morning, Karen. Happy Sunday. There is an organized bird walk, in a couple of hours but, with all this damp weather, I think I will hang tight at home. I need to keep plugging away at Cloudsplitter. It is an excellent read but so darn long...

Nov 5, 2017, 9:50am Top

Hi, Karen! I hope you're enjoying your Sunday.

I tend to like old popular (and often regional) names for birds rather more than their official names, though I do understand the need for common terminology. Timberdoodle (for the American woodcock) may be my favorite of such names.

Nov 5, 2017, 10:54am Top

What time change?

Nov 5, 2017, 4:17pm Top

Hi Karen, hope you are having a really nice weekend my dear, sending love and hugs dear friend.

Nov 6, 2017, 8:19am Top

>35 msf59: Hi Mark! Yesterday was a very busy day. I hope you got your bird walk in – I’ll have to check your thread out here in a minute or two.

>36 harrygbutler: Hi Harry! Busy, busy day. Playmakers Repertory presentation of Sense and Sensibility, then a quick turnaround to our book selection meeting for book club.

I guess trying to keep things accurate is laudable, but confusing and especially irritating when they make a change then make a change back when they figured out that they made the first change incorrectly!

Timberdoodle is wonderful. I’ve never heard of it before.

>37 richardderus: Do your technological devices not automatically denote time? Husband manually changes everything in the house that isn’t digital (3 clocks in the kitchen, 1 in the breakfast room, 1 in the living room, and the clock radio in the bedroom.) but the all-seeing and all-knowing cell phones, tablet, computers, and smart TVs update automatically.

>38 johnsimpson: Hi John! Exceptionally busy. I’m whupped today. Sending love and hugs to you and Karen.

Nov 6, 2017, 9:09am Top

>39 karenmarie: They do give me time readouts...but I have no more analog timepieces. The phone's also my alarm. It happened while I was asleep and, when I saw your message, I'd forgotten about "fall back." Hadda google it. THAT is scary!

Nov 6, 2017, 9:29am Top

I'm in!

>12 karenmarie: I've always wanted to live in a house like yours. It must be kind of heavenly. When I retire I'm going to make a beeline for the country. I'm 60/40 country/city, and while I like living in an apartment within walking distance of everything, I do love the peace and quiet.

Nov 6, 2017, 9:37am Top

Good morning, Karen! Cloudy here today, with rain expected later. I may try to finish pulling out our lima bean plants before the rain comes. We're still getting fresh limas for supper, but the tomatoes are essentially done.

Enjoy your day!

Nov 6, 2017, 2:11pm Top

>40 richardderus: Good afternoon, RD! My husband was paying strict attention, me not so much. I didn't change my wrist watch until I was at lunch with friend Louise, and the clock on my dashboard is still an hour ahead. It is scary that plugged-in Richard was clueless.

>41 SomeGuyInVirginia: Yay, Larry! A good goal. I like being able to go find people when I want 'em and be alone when I don't.

>42 harrygbutler: Hi Harry! We're overcast too, but not expecting rain. Ah, fresh lima beans sound heavenly. Did I tell you that I had the raised bed all ready to plant with tomatoes, green peppers, Kentucky Wonder Pole Beans, cucumbers, and sunflowers at the end of April, then got so discombobulated with Mom stuff that I was in California for a week before I remembered that I hadn't planted? First time in 18 years. Next year!

Today's been a combination of productive and frustrating. I finally figured out what I've spent out of pocket on Mom stuff (before I got DPOA access to her checking accounts when she was still living and then executor power after she had passed away). I did reimburse myself some from her accounts but not much. Added in what sister owes me for Mom's car, deducted her Memorial Service expenses, and sent her the spreadsheet.

Created the spreadsheet for our next book club year, confirmed all titles/authors, dates and locations for meetings, and then created a PDf of it, attached both formats to an e-mail AND embedded the schedule in the body of the e-mail, and sent it off.

My printer went offline because of a power glitch crack o'dawn, and I finally had to call Brother. They were excellent. No charge, took me through a couple of simple (to them) steps and I'm back in business.

Now I can write several checks for Friends - needed to be able to print out copies of invoices and requests. I have delayed about a week, but them's the breaks.

And THEN I'll read.

Nov 6, 2017, 9:49pm Top

I love your bird stories, Karen. I will start filling the feeders again now that cold weather is coming. The squirrels will be so happy! We have some black walnut trees in our yard and left plenty for the squirrels, but they are mighty greedy. Oh well, they entertain me with their gyrations to figure out my squirrel-proof feeders. I loved the old photo of your siblings with your mother upthread. You and I could have been twins with our platinum blonde hair! Mine is still kinda white…but for a different reason than heredity.

Nov 7, 2017, 6:44am Top

Morning, Karen. I posted this to you on my thread, but I wanted to share it here too: Our feeders have been rocking lately. The squirrels have been going to town on the suet feeder again. They are obsessed with that thing. I found it on the ground yesterday, after work, with just a mere nugget left of suet. I have given up on trying to keep them off it but I want to feed the woodpeckers too. With limited daylight now, I won't be able to watch the feeders as much. Sighs...

Hope your week is off to a good start.

Edited: Nov 7, 2017, 7:08am Top

>44 Donna828: Thanks, Donna! I really need to empty/refresh my feeders - I've got a vague suspicion that the birds would appreciate fresh sunflower and wild seed mix. I'll just dump the other stuff on the ground so as to not waste it - the Mourning Doves and squirrels especially will appreciate it. I am enjoying the birds more and more. Louise is inspiring me with her impressive knowledge and love of birds, too.

Do tell. White but for a different reason than heredity. I know some people's hair goes white because of a stressful or important event. I'm 64 and mine's got a few strands of white but is mostly light brown with definite reminders of my strawberry-blonde/red hair younger days. There have been some times in my life where I expected to wake up with completely white hair, but it just didn't happen.

>45 msf59: Hi Mark! Rocking feeders. That is excellent news, although the squirrels on your suet feeder is a bummer. I've moved the suet feeder to the front porch where one of the hummingbird feeders is in the summer. A Carolina Chickadee was going to town on it yesterday and so far (keeping fingers crossed) no squirrels have found it yet.

Good week so far. I have to go food shopping this a.m. to find things to make johnsimpson's wife Karen's Christmas Fruit Cake recipe and then get stuff prepped to make it tomorrow. You used to be able to find sultanas and currants at the regular grocery store, but now I'll have to shop around. Brandy at the ABC store. Way, way different than California, where you can buy hard liquor at grocery stores and liquor stores. But no, NC is regulated with only officially licensed ABC stores. I just looked it up, and unbelievable as it sounds, one county is still dry - Graham County. It is in the far west of the state.

Edited: Nov 7, 2017, 4:36pm Top

>45 msf59:, >46 karenmarie: - Suet feeders! I admit defeat. For years, I tried various styles of feeders and the squirrels have ALWAYS managed to get them open and on the ground, so I'd come home from work to find it empty on the lawn. I finally found one the had a wooden sort-of peaked roof, which I spent a good deal of time rigging closed using twist ties and wires. I could practically hear the conversations in the branches above me: "Pity she spends so much time on this. When will she learn it's a waste of her time? Nothing can keep us out of that feeder!"

I have only one feeder and I use sunflower hearts (no shells). Happily, even the woodpeckers love this and I have a nice variety of birds, year round. And the squirrels can't get into it.

Nov 7, 2017, 8:45am Top

>43 karenmarie: You were very productive yesterday!

Our suet feeder mostly attracts Flickers, which is fine with us. When the Bushtits (my favorite) come through, they also like it. It's so cute to see a dozen tiny birds on the single suet feeder.

Here in Asheville, I'm enjoying my sister's bird feeder. Chickadees and Titmice are the two primary visitors. There is a wren living in their back yard area, which faces immediately onto a wooded green space, but the wren doesn't come to the feeder.

We get Chickadees at home, as well, but they are a slightly different variety. The Titmice are among my favorites and we don't get them at home.

Edited: Nov 7, 2017, 9:18am Top

>47 jessibud2: Hi Shelley! The suet feeder doesn't get disturbed on my Squirrel Stopper because the squirrels can't get to any of the feeders on it.

I'm less confident that they won't smell their way back to the porch and be able to jump on it from the railing there.

>48 EBT1002: I want to see a Flicker, Ellen! Louise tells me she sees them all the time, but if I've seen one I haven't recognized it as such.

Now I'm jealous - Bushtits are sprightly, social songbirds that twitter as they fly weakly between shrubs and thickets in western North America. Almost always found in lively flocks, they move constantly, often hanging upside down to pick at insects or spiders on the undersides of leaves. Flocks of Bushtits mix with similar small songbirds like warblers, chickadees, and kinglets while foraging. Bushtits weave a very unusual hanging nest, shaped like a soft pouch or sock, from moss, spider webs, and grasses.

The Chickadees have started coming around again, and I did see a Titmouse a couple of weeks ago. The Carolina Wrens will come to the sunflower feeders, too. Not my picture, beautiful wren.

Nov 7, 2017, 9:23am Top

Only three clocks to manually adjust--done! No bird feeders to mess with, so an easy out. Just busy moving in a friend of my daughters for a month. Boxes everywhere. And a trip to the grocery store to get some of her faves. Happy Tuesday!

Nov 7, 2017, 9:44am Top

This is an ortolan bunting:

Here endeth my knowledge of actual birds. I will not mention why I know this particular bird as it could cause distress.

Happy day, Horrible! I'm off to vote.

Nov 7, 2017, 10:06am Top

Hi, Karen! You had mentioned that you didn't get a garden in earlier. Too bad! I do like being able to walk out the back door to get some food.

>45 msf59: >47 jessibud2: >49 karenmarie: I recommend trying a variety of hot pepper suet, if you haven't done so already. We used to have the same problem with squirrels attacking and dragging away feeders, but they stopped doing that once we switched. The one we used first is called Hot Pepper Delight, but there are others.

More recently the squirrels have been ignoring our suet offerings and going for the seed instead, so we've been able to try other types of suet.

Nov 7, 2017, 10:14am Top

>52 harrygbutler: - Sadly, my squirrels seem to enjoy hot pepper. I have tried EVERYTHING. I have waved the white flag. I know when I am outsmarted. ;-p

Nov 7, 2017, 10:17am Top

>53 jessibud2: Wow. I can understand, then. I don't really try to keep them from the feeders, either.

Edited: Nov 7, 2017, 10:23am Top

>49 karenmarie: We love our Flickers, Karen. We had a pair raising a youth this past spring. The youngster was as large as the parents but watching them feed her/him was so fun. Here is a male Northern Flicker.

And that description of the Bushtits is spot on! They are delightful tiny creatures and their twittering is distinctive. I have been lucky enough to be in the back yard when they came around and, standing very still and quietly, had them twitter all about me, undisturbed by my respectful presence.

Nov 7, 2017, 10:23am Top

I'm realizing that the two birds about which I'm waxing eloquent are the Flicker, a very large bird, and Bushtits, one of the tiniest of birds.

Nov 7, 2017, 10:30am Top

When they knocked an old apartment building down across Rt. 1, all the pigeons came to my building. Pigeons are very nasty birds. Some people put plastic owls out to scare them away and I hear they do work for a bit. I put out a rubber water moccasin but the damn birds thought it made a fine resting spot. This scary looking rubber snake covered in guano.

I saw the movie The Birds! I know what heinous acts they're capable of!

I'm reading Final Girls by Riley Sager. So far it's a bunch of slasher movie tropes strung together, but it's done in such an agreeable way that I'm liking it. It was published by Dutton/Penguin, so it's got to be more than just a horror book.

Edited: Nov 7, 2017, 4:19pm Top

>50 Berly: Yay Berly! You’re busier than I am, although I’ll report on today’s adventures, below. Happy Tuesday to you, too!

>51 richardderus: Ortolan Buntings are gorgeous and a worthy critter for a One-Bird Man. Sounds ominous or titillating, depending. I’ll respect your reticence, RD!
>52 harrygbutler: I’ll do that Harry – I seem to remember some discussion of pepper suet many threads ago or even last year, so thank you for the reminder!

The squirrels cannot get to the seeds here, so if they get on the suet feeder it’ll be Hot Pepper Suet.

>53 jessibud2: Squirrels that like hot pepper, Shelley? Aack. Maybe Canadian squirrels are more tricksy than American squirrels. I’m sorry you had to wave the white flag.

>54 harrygbutler: Poor Shelley, eh, Harry?

>55 EBT1002: How beautiful, Ellen! And what a joy to be able to watch a pair raise their young. And I absolutely love that picture of the Bushtits on the suet feeder.

>56 EBT1002: They’re all exciting, regardless of size. I saw a heron today, don’t know if it was a Little Blue or a Great Blue as it was flying off to the left of me as I was heading into town. I couldn’t exactly slam on the brakes and look through the binoculars I should start taking in the car with me…..

>57 SomeGuyInVirginia: Pigeons ARE nasty, Larry. LOL about your beshit rubber snake.

I have fun memories of a mockingbird dive bombing our kitty Coco Chanel. Poor Coco, but that mockingbird was relentless.

Of course Dutton/Penguin wouldn’t just publish anything, would they?

So today was the adventure of finding ingredients to make johnsimpson's wife Karen's Christmas cake. I needed unsalted butter, dark brown sugar, Glace cherries, mixed peel, sultanas, currants, raisins, hazelnuts, orange, lemon, large eggs, and Brandy. I had Amazon send me dark treacle last week, which looks like molasses. I need to do a better taste test, but they taste awfully darned similar.

Had to get the Brandy at the ABC Store. I found the dark brown sugar, Glace cherries, mixed peel (called Fruit Cake Mix here), raisins, oranges, lemons, and large eggs at the grocery store. I forgot the unsalted butter. I drove up to the Chatham Marketplace, a coop/health foods/natural foods store we're members of. They had currants, but no sultanas and no hazelnuts. I didn't think to get unsalted butter there. From the parking lot I called Whole Foods in Chapel Hill and Cary AND a specialty gourmet store in Chapel Hill and none of them had any of them. Then I remembered that I had lunch plans with a friend in Sanford, 30 miles to south, the town I used to work in. We had lunch, I visited the office for a bit to catch up with folks, then stopped at the grocery store on the way home for the unsalted butter. By then I decided to see if Amazon had sultanas and hazelnuts, and they had both, so I've ordered both. One's due tomorrow, one's due Friday. Thursday I'll soak the mixed peel and dried fruits in brandy as per the recipe, and depending on when the sultanas get here on Friday will either bake Friday or Saturday unless we confirm a dinner date with friends on Saturday, in which case the baking will have to get done on Sunday if not Friday.

I'm emotionally drained. I was gone from home for 5 hours. But, by GOD, I'll have fruit cake.

Now it's time to read TWUBC.

Nov 7, 2017, 4:40pm Top

Hi Karen, just read about your trauma getting the ingredients and we both chuckled my dear, Karen says she never thought that you could just have used Molasses instead of trawling around for Black Treacle. Also Karen says it is best if you wait to soak the mixed peel and dried fruits until the sultanas arrive and if it is going to be Sunday before you bake then it is best if the soaking is done the night before or Friday night at the earliest as they don't do well if soaked for too long as the fruit starts to break up.

Karen says you can message her on Facebook or e-mail her at Karen_simpson61@btinternet.com.

After all this effort my dear I hope you like the cake.

Sending love and hugs from both of us.

Nov 7, 2017, 4:49pm Top

>58 karenmarie: - Sigh. Yes, they are highly intelligent. Or maybe just persistent. And don't even get me started on raccoons. Our city has even reinvented and distributed, city-wide, a new green bin for food waste, that is *supposedly* raccoon proof. We take our problems seriously (snerk):


Nov 7, 2017, 5:03pm Top

>60 jessibud2:

Bird seed is stored outside next to our house in metal garbage cans, with tight lids.

The Raccoons of course opened them.

After stacking stuff which would make a lot of noise when they knocked into it -
and getting tired of going out and hollering to no avail -

I finally placed one of those large circular metal sleds upside down on top of the cans and have had no problems since
everyone now just slides gently off.

Nov 7, 2017, 6:11pm Top

Hi John! Thank you for the info and for my Lifeline, Karen's e-mail. I wouldn't say trauma exactly, just one step forward and two steps back. Living in the wilds of central North Carolina USA sometimes presents problems of availability.

You're right - soak all the fruit. I wasn't thinking, but I'll make sure and only do so the day before. I always re-read recipes anyway so probably would have caught it.

My husband comes from a VERY small family on both sides, and today we found out his first cousin Mike passed away unexpectedly yesterday. Mike had a minor heart attack a week ago but was on medication and supposed to be doing well. In fact, husband was checking into hotels so we could go down for a weekend visit. Sigh. It's very sad. Mike didn't marry 'til his 50s, his high school sweetheart (she had been married and divorced). He was deliriously happy, then she died of cancer about 4 years ago.

Nov 7, 2017, 6:17pm Top

>60 jessibud2: Both, probably, Shelley. And regarding raccoons, I’m not sure there’s a raccoon-proof bin unless it’s put inside a secure building, except that Marianne's solution seems to work for her. With my luck, if I tried that, they'd lift the sleds off and wake husband up every night with the clanging.

>61 m.belljackson: Clever, Marianne! We, too, have metal garbage cans with tight fitting lids for bird seed. However, the raccoons kept getting into them no matter what we did (we don’t have large circular metal sleds but tried heavy cinder blocks and bungie cords), so the cans are now in the garage. Harder to get to for both raccoons and humans.

Edited: Nov 7, 2017, 6:38pm Top

WOW! I love all the birding photos and posts! My kinda joint.

>52 harrygbutler: Thanks, Harry. I think you mentioned the hot pepper suet last season. I don't think I can find that around here, so I may have to order it online.

I love my woodpecker visitors and want to keep feeding them.

Any hooray for Bushtits! I love my seasonal chickadees

Nov 7, 2017, 6:52pm Top

>62 karenmarie: That's a terrible thing to have happen. Please offer husband my condolences. Safe journey home, Mike.

Nov 7, 2017, 9:13pm Top

>64 msf59: Hi Mark! Bird stuff is fun. I'm absolutely in love with the picture Ellen posted of the Bushtits.

>65 richardderus: Thank you, RD. I'll pass 'em along. Safe journey home indeed, Mike.

Edited: Nov 7, 2017, 10:00pm Top

I hope the making of fruitcake is easier than the shopping for fruitcake ingredients!

My BIL & SIL make a huge number of fruitcakes every year; it is a serious endeavor requiring an entire weekend. We always receive one from them, put it in the refrigerator, remove last year's fruitcake from said refrigerator, and enjoy.

Nov 7, 2017, 11:54pm Top

Oh, Karen, that is so sad. Give your husband a hug from me.

Nov 8, 2017, 12:45am Top

>62 karenmarie: Oh, I am so sorry.

Nov 8, 2017, 5:22am Top

>62 karenmarie: Hi Karen, I'm very sorry to hear about your cousin. My condolences to your husband.

And I'm very much enjoying all your raccoon stories. I only know them from the zoo, so I can admire their cleverness from a safe distance. Sorry.

Nov 8, 2017, 6:38am Top

>67 EBT1002: So you let last year's mellow for an entire year? Yum.

Roni, Berly, Ella Thank you for your condolences.

>70 EllaTim: Raccoons are absolutely adorable to look at, but Pestimus maximus when it comes to scavenging.

It's a nice bright 44F outside, going to a high of 47F. The propane heater is on to take the chill off the room and I anticipate putting it on and off during the day as needed.

Today I don't have anything scheduled, so will putter around, read, whatever.

Edited: Nov 8, 2017, 7:28am Top

On other fronts, since two books have been mentioned on threads I follow since Sunday, I thought I'd post our book club reading schedule for the next 12 months. Each member gets to choose a book. Some have several ideas and let the group help choose, others just have one so that's it. My selection is The Storied Life of A. J. Fikry . It sounded interesting, and LibraryThing thinks you probably will like The Storied Life of A. J. Fikry (prediction confidence: very high).

The two mentioned? News of the World and Reservoir 13.

Edited to add: I've read Rules of Civility and Lincoln in the Bardo. I might pass on a re-read of RoC, but will definitely listen to Lincoln in the Bardo and follow along in the book. I had planned on doing that soon, but with the schedule set for November of next year realize that it will be good to wait a year.

Nov 8, 2017, 8:45am Top

And the view from the Sunroom window of my feeders and the Crepe Myrtle. Yay fall.

Nov 8, 2017, 8:57am Top

That's an excellent list, Karen. Some I don't know or haven't read (e.g. God's Kingdom), but there are lots of fine ones there. I hope your group likes Plainsong; that's one of my favorite books ever. News of the World is a great way to kick it off.

Edited: Nov 8, 2017, 9:30am Top

Hi Joe!

I'm pleased with the list of books for the year. I never published last year's list, so here it is with my brief comment about each book. Reading 6 of 12 is par for the course for me.

Last Year's List

Nov 8, 2017, 9:30am Top

>62 karenmarie: So sorry for your husband, Karen, my condolences.

Nov 8, 2017, 9:32am Top

>72 karenmarie: - Hmm, I know I responded to this list when you first posted it and mentioned that I really loved the Gabrielle Zevin book. But I don't see my post. Which probably means I wrote it and forgot to hit *post*. Anyhow, great choice!

Please add my condolences to the others. I don't know why *sudden* death sometimes seems more shocking or harder to process. It certainly is no less painful to those left behind. So sorry for your husband's loss

Nov 8, 2017, 9:41am Top

>76 FAMeulstee: Thank you, Anita.

>77 jessibud2: You did post - I saw it on Mark's thread. And thank you re Cousin Mike.

Nov 8, 2017, 9:45am Top

>78 karenmarie: - So I did. Senior's moment, lol ;-)

Nov 8, 2017, 9:49am Top

No problem, Shelley! *smile*

One last picture for today. I had these three photos framed for husband probably 10 or more years ago. This is his Mom and Dad and Dad's family, circa 1960. Husband looks to be about 4.

Pic on left, left to right adults: Husband's uncle by marriage Bill, Aunt Ginny, Grandmother, Mother, Grandfather, Father. Children: Cousin Mike, my husband, Cousin Steve. "Pop", the grandfather, played semi-pro ball in the Textile leagues in NC in 1919-1921, hence the baseball pic.

Nov 8, 2017, 10:14am Top

Hi, Karen!

>62 karenmarie: My condolences to your husband in this time of sorrow. My thoughts and prayers are with you both.

>80 karenmarie: Thank you for sharing more family photos!

Nov 8, 2017, 11:04am Top

>62 karenmarie:

Hope that you and your husband will find comfort and peace at your cousin's funeral.

Nov 8, 2017, 11:38am Top

Happy Hump Day, Horrible!


Thanks for sharing your book club lists. I particularly love your response to the Elena Ferrante...which I disliked for its arch, pinky-pointing "mystery" not its nationality. Heh.

Nov 8, 2017, 11:46am Top

Karen--Love your bookclub lists--thanks for sharing. I haven't heard of several of them and I will pick and choose largely based on your comments, several of which made me laugh. "Read, disliked actively, proud that I read it" might not make the cut!

Nov 8, 2017, 3:30pm Top

>62 karenmarie:, Hi Karen, so sorry about your husbands cousin and what a really sad story but at least he found some happiness late in life. Like your husband I am from a very small family, I was an only child and although my dad had brothers and sisters, their children were adults by the time I reached high school age. My mum had a sister and so I have three cousins but I haven't seen any of them this century, we kept in touch but they never bothered and so we have drifted apart.

Karen has made a number of friends via my being a part of LT and she enjoys the chats and comments on Facebook.

Nov 8, 2017, 3:44pm Top

>81 harrygbutler: Thank you, Harry!

We walk by that montage every time we come in from the garage or go back and forth to the kitchen, so see it all the time. It was nice to look at it more closely. My poor husband – all suited and bow-tied up when his cousins were in cool pants and rope belts.

>82 m.belljackson: Thanks, Marianne. Here’s a strange one – Cousin Mike didn’t want a funeral or memorial service. So we’ll have to do something, just the three of us sometime this winter, I think. Daughter doesn’t know yet, it will upset her terribly, so will wait for an opportune time.

>83 richardderus: Thanks, RD! *smooches* back from Horrible.

The only reason I say Italians is that the company I retired from 2 years ago was run into the ground by our Italian parent and let me just say that managing Italian style is drastically different from managing American style. I prefer American style any day.

>84 Berly: Thanks, Berly. Thank God it was only 149 pages. I have gotten better at snark as the years have gone by.

>85 johnsimpson: Thank you, John. Small families are the pits for those of us who are in them, possibly wished for by people from huge families. Mine’s small, too, until we get to my daughter’s generation, because one of my first cousins, who I haven’t seen since we were children, has 11 kids. Unusual for a Baby Boomer. I haven’t seen any of my first cousins since my grandmother’s funeral in 2003 and I’m not in touch with any of them. Sad. I did the same – tried to keep in touch but they never bothered, so I stopped bothering, too.

I am not a Facebook user hardly at all any more and was always only a Liker, Lurker, and occasional Replier at that. However, I just sent Karen a Friend request, and that will be nice.

Nov 8, 2017, 3:58pm Top

>86 karenmarie: I remember your adventures in sprezzatura, Horrible, and feel for you even yet. It was no fun at all for you, and I'm so thrilled you're free at last, free at last, thank the goddesses almighty, free at last.

Nov 8, 2017, 4:09pm Top

>62 karenmarie: I'm so sorry Karen, that is always so upsetting.

Much love.

Edited: Nov 8, 2017, 4:23pm Top

>80 karenmarie:

Cousin Mike is the most confident looking kid ever seen in old timey photos!

Stance and smile, not to mention trend setting style - we were still wearing those socks in the 50s...

Edited: Nov 8, 2017, 4:27pm Top

>87 richardderus: Yepper, working for them has scarred me for life. Husband's even worse - remember he worked there, too, for 5 years before they furloughed him last summer, the bastards. His comments are consistenty vitriolic and nasty. They did him much worse than they did me, for sure.

>88 SomeGuyInVirginia: Thanks, Larry. It is so sad. Husband just pulled some stuff from Facebook for me - Mike and I weren't friends on FB, but husband was, so here are two of Mike. It's uncanny how much Mike looked like my husband's dad and my husband (well, husband doesn't have as much hair) in the photo of him on the right.


Nov 8, 2017, 4:29pm Top

>89 m.belljackson: Wasn't he, Marianne? He graduated from the U of South Carolina, never worked in an office, always lived at the beach, worked in bars, partied a lot, was a ladies' man.

Nov 8, 2017, 11:14pm Top

Sorry to hear about cousin Mike. My condolences to your family. It is always hard to lose a member. I don't use Facebook much now either, I think I get my social media fix from LT and it seems much more civilized.

Nov 8, 2017, 11:38pm Top

66 unread! There's no way I can catch up, but I'm sorry about Cousin Mike. Sounds like he lived his life the way he wanted.
I can't find it, but I have THE disquisition on Daylight Savings Time, written by the old lawyer for whom my SIL worked until his retirement. It's one of the funniest things I've ever read, and I'll keep looking. I'll just add that hereabouts DST is known as "fast time," as in "this fast time is burning up my garden."
O.K. I found the envelope that contains some of his other letters, and the DST one is not in here. Instead, I'll just give you a headline from The Brunswick Beacon (NOT our local rag) from 1997: LONGWOOD NUDIST RESORT MANAGER BITTEN ON FACE BY RABID BAT. (DH's comment: "It could have been worse.")

Nov 8, 2017, 11:45pm Top

So small families. My mom's brother never married and my dad was an only child. No cousins for me! Did have some great aunts, uncles and great grandparents for a while. Of my siblings, my husband and I had kids, and we each had one sibling who procreated and one that did not. At least my kids have cousins!!

Nov 9, 2017, 6:43am Top

>72 karenmarie: I really like your book club choices, Karen. Many smart picks. I loved the O' Connor collection and it is wonderful to see Plainsong on there. One of my all time favorites. I have been meaning to read more Mosher too.

Edited: Nov 9, 2017, 6:57am Top

"I had been given my first pair of binoculars for Christmas. I spotted a Myrtle Warbler (now called the Yellow-rumped Warbler) on Christmas Day..."

^One More Warbler

^Of course, I thought of you. Sweet Thursday, Karen.

Nov 9, 2017, 6:56am Top

I can't catch up either, Karen, but I am sorry to hear about the loss of cousin Mike.

Nov 9, 2017, 6:57am Top

Very sorry to hear about your cousin. Sad.

Nov 9, 2017, 7:04am Top

>92 Familyhistorian: Thank you, Meg. You and I could be twins: I don't use Facebook much now either, I think I get my social media fix from LT and it seems much more civilized.

>93 LizzieD: Hi Peggy, and thank you. He did live his life the way he wanted.

I’ve never heard of ‘fast time’. That’s fascinating. And your DH’s comment is great.

>94 Berly: Hi Berly! Yes, small families. My daughter is an only child. She has 2 cousins – my sister had the two, my brother doesn’t have any, and husband’s an only child. However, she has 6 step-second cousins that are all between the ages of 18 and 23. Daughter's 24. We see two of the 'little cousins' as we call them at Thanksgiving and those two plus another two at Christmas.

>95 msf59: Thanks, Mark. Our group is diverse, so there’s always a variety. I’m glad to her that there are some on there that get the Marky-Mark seal of approval.

Today I have Treasurer duties (check writing, meeting with librarian, depositing one membership check) and am getting my nails done. I’m going to research QuickBooks for Non-Profits because we really need software and I’d like to present info at the board meeting, which is next Monday.

The Wind-up Bird Chronicle is coming along nicely.

Nov 9, 2017, 7:07am Top

>96 msf59: Sounds good already, Mark. And thanks for the pic - they are pretty little birds, aren't they? And >98 msf59: Thank you, Mark.

>97 vancouverdeb: Thank you, Deborah. That's how I feel sometimes when I see a thread with dozens and dozens of messages. It's best to put a line in the sand and just move forward.

Nov 9, 2017, 7:25am Top

Good morning, Karen! Much as I don't care for many aspects of Facebook, it has provided a way to reestablish contact with cousins (most often actually cousins of my dad and mom) who otherwise had drifted apart and had little current knowledge of each other.

Nov 9, 2017, 7:34am Top

Hi Harry!

I'd be tempted into using FB for that, too, except that the ones I did try that with all post rabid political things and religious things that don't quite jibe with my thoughts and feelings. So, there's never anything to say to them. I don't feel the need to challenge them or even explain myself. I realize that we have absolutely nothing in common except genes.

When we visited Iowa in our Epic 2010 13-Day-13-State Road Trip, we spent the afternoon with my Mom's first cousin and his family at the family Century Farm near Iowa City. Daughter was hanging out in the barn with one of her second cousins who was perhaps 13 or so at the time (daughter was 17), and showed great restraint in not challenging anything the cousin said about religion, Christianity, Hell, and etc.

Nov 9, 2017, 9:01am Top

>102 karenmarie: Sure, I understand. There are definitely those with whom I disagree. But online fora are not ideal for discussions of disagreements, and so I fall back on the rule of not talking about religion and politics. I usually find there are other things to share — birthdays, outings, trips, activities of children or grandchildren, or even reminiscences of people now long gone. Unfortunately there are a few whose updates (even the good ones) I don't usually see now because the noise ratio was too high.

I apply the same rule in other online fora as well. I don't take part, and I generally avoid threads -- or skip portions of threads -- where those discussions play a prominent part. There is just too much mean-spirited comment.

Nov 9, 2017, 10:17am Top

Heavens, cousins...I have great seething masses, and know none of them. My mother wasn't interested in promoting a sense of family connection in me, pedophile that she was, so I was isolated from social contact to the maximum degree she could engineer.

Also, I am a lot younger than most of them.

Nov 9, 2017, 10:22am Top

My sympathy re Cousin Mike, too, Karen. I'm glad he lived his life the way he wanted to.

Good to hear that The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle is coming along nicely. I'm not very far in, but I'm enjoying re-reading it. With so much detail, it helps to go over it now without having to worry about assembling the puzzle of its meaning.

Nov 9, 2017, 10:22am Top

>103 harrygbutler:

While I love the balanced political discussions and the religious conversations related to books,
your comments are on time for a Thread I was deeply enjoying,
Jumping Ship.

People were carefully recounting names and reasons for those leaving trump.

Then, about a month ago, one contributor launched really questionable attacks -
this so far has ended all posts.

Edited: Nov 9, 2017, 11:32am Top

>103 harrygbutler: My relatives are too distant physically or emotionally, so I avoid ‘em. Good for you for being in touch with family and feeling good about it.

I started avoiding politics and religion unless I feel SAFE with the person I’m discussing them with. This usually means only talking politics and religion with people who feel the same as I do, but not completely – a very dear friend is a Trump fan and whenever politics comes up she bats me down and then goes off on how wonderful Trump is. I listen politely while all the time screaming Nooooooo! in my mind, but should really starting cutting her off since she cuts me off. We need to avoid politics.

>104 richardderus: Hey RD! I know how vile and evil your mother was. It’s sad that you didn’t get a chance to know your cousins. Sometimes it’s just too late or too emotional or too something. Age plays a factor, too. *smooches* from TVT Horrible

>105 jnwelch: Thanks, Joe. Oh yes. I haven’t cracked it today, having read more of the Bible for the year long Bible as Literature group read of which I’m the only person following along the original schedule with the original literary study bible suggested. The person who wanted to do this, enticed us in, and started the thread bailed in February, but I’m nothing if not stubborn, and have been enjoying disjointed conversations over there with other folks working from different books at different paces. I performed some Friends Treasurer duties, filled out and prepared a Fidelity EFT Authorization form, eaten breakfast, and played around here on LT. It’s probably time to read…..

>106 m.belljackson: I went over to Jumping Ship and you’re right – a contributor (I am staying within TOS and am only calling his comments trollish) sabotaged the thread pretty effectively. The only way to beat someone like that is to go back at it, if anybody in that thread has the heart.

Nov 9, 2017, 12:53pm Top

>107 karenmarie:

I tried, but got sick of his escalating fury;
then he simply ignored our responses and plowed on and on.

None of the original people apparently want to deal with him
and so also just stopped posting.

Nov 9, 2017, 3:08pm Top

Weee! I'm heading to NYC to catch come shows, tour the Metropolitan and eat pizza! Totally jazzed!

Nov 9, 2017, 3:51pm Top

*smooch* for my dear and supportive friend (when she's not spraying book bullets)/bitter and detested frenemy (when she is)

Nov 9, 2017, 4:32pm Top

Hi Karen! I am impressed at your perseverance regarding fruit cake. Happy baking! I need to unearth my grandma's recipe. I prefer the non jellied fruit kind. Hers is full of raisins and cranberries and dry pineapple and dates and nuts and good things.

Nov 9, 2017, 5:13pm Top

>108 m.belljackson: Hi Marianne. Too bad. I deliberately don't post on conservative threads so I won't rain on their parade and/or get attacked.

>109 SomeGuyInVirginia: Yay Larry! Have fun, fun, fun!

>110 richardderus: Thank you, darling Richard. And/or Got you again, frenemy!

>111 nittnut: Nice to see you out and about, Jenn. Thank you. I'm nothing if not stubborn.... persistent. The hazelnuts arrived today. The sultanas are supposed to arrive tomorrow. Once everything's in hand, I can rock and roll the fruit cake!! I'd be interested in seeing your grandma's recipe, just for the heck of it - I have a recipe from my grandmother that calls for the cakes to be baked in coffee cans..... I just found the recipe in her ... recipe... WWI bandage instructions... who came to see "the baby" my father... notes book dated 1913. It's in tatters and I keep it protected so it won't fall apart any more than it already has.

Nov 10, 2017, 12:25am Top

Hi Karen! I love the talk of fruit cake-baking. It puts me in mind of Truman Capote's A Christmas Memory, one of my all time favorite Christmas reads. I need to dig it back out for a reread.

Very sorry about to hear about your husband's cousin.

Edited: Nov 10, 2017, 7:25am Top

Morning, Karen. Happy Friday. It is supposed to be very cold today. Only in the 30s. Glad I am off work, for the weekend. I am planning on doing a bird walk tomorrow and possibly Sunday. I am also really enjoying One More Warbler.

Edited: Nov 10, 2017, 8:05am Top

>113 streamsong: Hi Janet! I love to bake. It's fun and therapeutic and produces good things. I've acquired some pretty good recipes over the years - having the right recipe helps, too.

Sigh. I just had to order Truman Capote's A Christmas Memory. It's due between the 17th and 27th of November. A book bullet on my own thread!

>114 msf59: Thank you, Mark! Whew. 30s. Stay warm. It's 42F here now, going up to about 56F. Warmer than the last two days. Plus no drizzle today, clear skies.

Nov 10, 2017, 10:15am Top

>112 karenmarie:

That is the weird thing about JUMPING SHIP COUNT -

it clearly was NOT a conservative thread.

Nov 10, 2017, 10:37am Top

>116 m.belljackson: I guess I wasn't clear, sorry. My brain leaped but I didn't transition clearly. I know the thread was progressive.... liberal.... whatever and the trumper hijacked it.

Nov 10, 2017, 12:02pm Top

>117 karenmarie:

I wish the "founders" of the site would flag him, then maybe it could move back to the creative,
informative and up-to-date location that it was.

Nov 10, 2017, 12:34pm Top

Hi, Karen! I hope you're having a good Friday.

It's fairly cool here today -- just 36 degrees at the moment, and windy. The juncos have returned, a couple weeks early.

Edited: Nov 10, 2017, 6:43pm Top

>118 m.belljackson: Unless he violates TOS, then he's safe to hijack threads. It's a shame.

>119 harrygbutler: Hi Harry! Brrr! But yay for the juncos.

I have had a pretty good day, all things considered. I started The Day of the Triffids, which is a terrific book so far, at about page 85 of 216. I read more of the Bible As Literature for the year-long group read.

I blanched, dried, and ground up almonds for the Christmas Cake recipe given to me by johnsimpson's wife.

I decided to order a pair of bifocals like I used to have before they got run over by husband's car when we were at the dump (my fault - they dropped out of my pocket just as husband was driving over to the recycle section). I had to go over to the doctor's office to pick frames and have them measure properly with the frames on my face. The bifocals are half calibrated for computer screen and half for reading. Since my cataract surgery 3 years ago I have great distance vision but close up needs more help than it used to need. Husband's job offers vision insurance, which we got, so the glasses only cost me the copay of $15. Very sweet. They should be ready in about 2 weeks since they had to special order the frames.

Husband and I have been watching season 2 of Billions. We've watched 9 of the 12, so will watch 2 tonight. If we're feeling particularly awake, we'll finish the season off.

Nov 10, 2017, 6:48pm Top

>120 karenmarie: Day of the Triffids is one of my reread books. A really good story. Glad you're enjoying it.

What an unfortunate accident with your glasses. But it's nice that you have such a good insurance, those bifocals can be pretty expensive. And good vision is so important.

Nov 10, 2017, 8:14pm Top

Re: birds, I don't know if ours are drunk on late Spring berries or what, but there are a few stumbling and slow ones about lately. One nearly flew into my face the other day!

Nov 10, 2017, 9:52pm Top

>121 EllaTim: Hi Ella! I just love this book so far - intelligent, well written, scary, weird.

I've been using 'cheaters' since then, power 2. They work pretty well, but I'm anxious to see how much better the bifocals will be. And I'll be much, much more careful with them this time!

>122 LovingLit: Hello Megan. What a riot. Drunk birds.

Nov 11, 2017, 3:14am Top

Nov 11, 2017, 5:54am Top

>124 Berly: Perfect! LOL

Nov 11, 2017, 8:12am Top

>123 karenmarie: I just have reading glasses, but I'm having trouble getting used to needing them. So I lose them, forget where they are, accidentally step on them and so on. I'm still looking for a way to have them with me all the time, without losing them.

Edited: Nov 11, 2017, 8:21am Top

>126 EllaTim: For a while, Ella, I kept them on a magnetic eyeglass holder, but that's actually what failed when they fell under husband's car. Now I usually just keep them on top of my head if I'm not using them. I just looked on Amazon, though, and ordered an eyeglass necklace. I know you won't order from amazon.com, being in Amsterdam, but here's the link so you can see what I hope will work: Eyeglass Necklace

Nov 11, 2017, 8:20am Top

Morning, Karen. Happy Saturday. I hope you were able to get some sleep, my friend.

Getting ready to leave on an organized bird walk. It is COLD out there.

Nov 11, 2017, 8:35am Top

>127 karenmarie: We can order from Amazon, but I'd be using Amazon.de. But this actually looks like a good idea, and I think I could find something like this elsewhere, or my husband could make it.

Have a nice day, sorry you didn't sleep well.

Nov 11, 2017, 8:38am Top

>129 EllaTim: I figured there was probably an Amazon you could use - possibly better if your husband could make you something!

I kept thinking I'd be able to go back to sleep, but husband is now up, the TV is on, Kitty William is yowling for more food even though he's eaten dry food and gotten his morning allotment of canned food. I'm up for the duration, but won't rule out the possibility of a nap!

Edited: Dec 2, 2017, 7:09am Top

83. The Day of the Triffids by John Wyndham
11/9/17 to 11/11/17

The description from Amazon (obviously written in 2003), since it’s now 66 years:

In 1951 John Wyndham published his novel The Day of the Triffids to moderate acclaim. Fifty-two years later, this horrifying story is a science fiction classic, touted by The Times (London) as having “all the reality of a vividly realized nightmare.”

Bill Masen, bandages over his wounded eyes, misses the most spectacular meteorite shower England has ever seen. Removing his bandages the next morning, he finds masses of sightless people wandering the city. He soon meets Josella, another lucky person who has retained her sight, and together they leave the city, aware that the safe, familiar world they knew a mere twenty-four hours before is gone forever.

But to survive in this post-apocalyptic world, one must survive the Triffids, strange plants that years before began appearing all over the world. The Triffids can grow to over seven feet tall, pull their roots from the ground to walk, and kill a man with one quick lash of their poisonous stingers. With society in shambles, they are now poised to prey on humankind. Wyndham chillingly anticipates bio-warfare and mass destruction, fifty years before their realization, in this prescient account of Cold War paranoia.b>

Why I wanted to read it: I saw the 1963 movie version of it and the title always stuck. The Midwich Cuckoos had been recently mentioned here on LT so I had John Wyndham and TDotT in my mind. I saw this beautiful 1951 Book Club Edition at the Friends of the Library Book Sale and bought it. It seemed like the right time to read it the other day, something short and ‘light’ compared to The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle.

Well, ‘light’ isn’t exactly right, but it hit the spot and was a wonderful read.

The book and the movie have nothing in common except Triffids and the fact that most of the world’s population is blind.

The story is told in first-person by Bill Masen. It is factual, almost emotionless, but not in a bad way. Bill feels strongly about what he sees and feels and expresses those feelings, but the story takes precedence. However, by his actions Bill shows his determination, love for Josella, and willingness to work hard and sacrifice to keep those he cares about alive.

It’s an interesting twist on a post-apocalyptic scenario in that there are many blind people and a few sighted people. Different groups, once the initial shock wears off and survivors clump together, try different survival strategies.

A sweet little macabre book. The answers to three questions may or may not be answered: Will Bill, Josella, and his little group survive? Was the comet and world blindness brought about by the Triffids or a stunning coincidence? Can the Triffids be destroyed?

Nov 11, 2017, 9:37am Top

>127 karenmarie: LOL Karen, I am so glad I clicked on the link for eyeglass necklace. The only thing that came to mind was one of the rhinestone things that everyone's great aunt used to wear. Ohnoohnoohno...

Nov 11, 2017, 12:19pm Top

>131 karenmarie: I am so pleased that the book was a positive experience. I don't think the film did the story a disservice, though I agree that the similarities between the two were few.

Winter came. After the initial rainy owwwww days, it's positively sunstruck out there and I am in Heaven.

Nov 11, 2017, 1:34pm Top

>132 streamsong: I, too, am glad you clicked on the link, Janet. I wouldn't want you to think I would wear rhinestones. Now, if they were diamonds, that would be another matter altogether. I could go in for serious eyeglass necklace bling!

>133 richardderus: I loved it, RD! I zoomed through it. That may be part of the reason I stayed up when I woke up when it was still the middle of the night..... it's a great read. I seem to remember that in the movie at the end the Triffids could be killed by seawater. Am I right?

Home from the dump, lunch, and grocery shopping. It's a nice bright 45F here. Beautiful Carolina blue skies and a few wispy little clouds meandering by. Husband's watching TV, I'm here in the Sunroom, propane stove on to take the chill off the room, and going to crack the new Jack Reacher, The Midnight Line. And, of course, read more of TWUBC for the group read, but I must say that the end of Book 1 was rather traumatic.

Nov 11, 2017, 4:11pm Top

>134 karenmarie: Re spoiler, yes. Silly in the extreme, since the antidote is so extremely prevalent that the choice of Earth to invade becomes either idiotic or suicidal.

Enjoy that new read! The sun's on the way down here, which bothers me less than it seems to bother so many. xoxo

Nov 12, 2017, 5:23am Top

Happy Sunday, Karen. Gorgeous photos on your thread.

Edited: Nov 13, 2017, 7:09am Top

>135 richardderus: Very good point about the antidote. I'm liking the new Reacher so far. Although, and I need to re-read his first several books to see if I'm remembering his style correctly, he seems to have caught Penny-itis.
Penny-itis: Noun/ˈpe-nē-ī'-təs/ The irritating, grammatically incorrect, and lazy method of trying to put emphasis on an action, method, emotion, or observation by making each word or sentence fragment of what should be one sentence separate "sentences".

Examples: Though Judge Corriveau couldn’t really say what it was, she did know the Chief Superintendent of the Surete should not look like that. While sitting in the witness box. At a murder trial.

The cobrador had found him. And followed him. Hounding him. To his death.

There, on the very edge of the photograph. At the far reaches of her peripheral vision. Just entering her orbit. Stood a cobrador.
>136 Ameise1: Hi Barbara. Nice to see you out and about. Thank you re the photos, and thank you to everybody who contributed here, too.

I got up late this morning - 7:45 - and have just had my first sip of coffee. Today will be the Day of the Fruit Cake. Evening edition will be Shrimp and New Potato Chowder. A busy kitchen day, which I will enjoy. I'd like to wait til husband goes back to work tomorrow to make the fruit cake, but tomorrow is busy with Friends board meeting, chiropractic, deep tissue massage, and getting forms notarized to continue and hopefully finish the process of turning Mom's house back into the mortgage company.

Nov 12, 2017, 8:57am Top

Hooray for sleeping in! Morning, Karen. Happy Sunday. I am debating whether to go on a solo bird walk, although it is much warmer and drier right here at home. We will see...

Enjoy your day.

Edited: Nov 12, 2017, 9:56am Top

>138 msf59: Thanks, Mark! I hope you get your solo bird walk in.

The eggs and unsalted butter are out and getting to room temperature, the hazelnuts are weighed. I may or may not blanch them. I just created My Version of Mixed Spice. (cinnamon, coriander, nutmeg, clove, allspice, ginger).

I also just finished reading The Gospel of John - continuing the year-long Bible as Literature read.

Now for some Reacher or Wind-up Bird! Decisions, decisions.....

Nov 12, 2017, 10:20am Top

>137 karenmarie: I have just finished a wonderful pot of lapsang souchong tea and am turning the pages towards completing my 75th book.

Have a splendid Sunday, dear lady.

Nov 12, 2017, 10:37am Top

>140 PaulCranswick: Sounds lovely, Paul! Beverage and book, two of my favorite things.

Nov 12, 2017, 12:24pm Top

Happy Sunday dans le cuisine, Horrible, and save me some shrimp and new potato chowder. xo

Nov 12, 2017, 2:58pm Top

>142 richardderus: Thanks, RD! The cakes are in the oven, all the prep dishes/bowls/pans/utensils are washed. The house smells heavenly.

I'll start the chowder about an hour before we sit down to eat.

Nov 12, 2017, 2:59pm Top

Hello my dear, hope all has gone well with the mixing and I can smell your house from here dear friend, sending love and hugs from both of us.

Nov 12, 2017, 4:07pm Top

>144 johnsimpson: Hi John! Oh, my, the house smells heavenly. all those spices and treacle and nuts. I made a double recipe, and have 5 1.5-2 lb loaf pans, cooling on the counters. And I made a teensy weensy one with some of the leftovers - husband and I just HAD to try it before brandy, and it's absolutely scrumptious. I don't know if it looks anything like Karen's, but it looks pretty darned good to me. The texture is wonderful and if I didn't know it was treacle, I'd say it's molasses-y.

Nov 12, 2017, 4:10pm Top

>145 karenmarie: *faints from drool-dehydration*

Nov 12, 2017, 4:12pm Top

I'm being VERY STRONG, and not having any more. We are going to have dinner in about 2 hours (gotta start making the chowder in about an hour) and don't want to ruin my appetite. But I could cheerfully eat the rest of that little loaf myself.

Nov 12, 2017, 4:39pm Top

>145 karenmarie:, Hi Karen, Karen says it looks really nice my dear, a great job and glad you are enjoying I dear friend, way to go.

Love and hugs.

Nov 12, 2017, 7:38pm Top

>137 karenmarie: Penny-itis?! Noooooo! Read WUBC. : ) Happy Sunday.

Nov 12, 2017, 9:34pm Top

>137 karenmarie: Penny-itis! I do that all the time online. All. The. Time. ;)
>146 richardderus: drool dehydration! Ha! So good.

Nov 12, 2017, 9:59pm Top

>148 johnsimpson: Hi John. Thank you and thank Karen. I've applied brandy, waxed paper, and tin foil to all except one, which doesn't get the brandy treatment but gets the waxed paper and tin foil (for a relative avoiding alcohol in any shape or form). They are tucked safely away in a cool, dry, place. Sending love and hugs to you and Karen.

>149 Berly: Oh, I'm not reading Penny now, Berly. I'm all caught up and won't buy any more. I might actually utilize the library that I spend so many hours supporting through being Treasurer of the Friends of the Library. Tonight I'll continue with the newest Jack Reacher, The Midnight Line, and hope to find some time tomorrow to read a bit of both. Happy Sunday to you, too!

>150 LovingLit: Hi Megan! Then you've got Penny-itis. It's much easier to accept it in friends than in Highly Successful Authors, however.

Yes, poor, RD, languishing up in Long Island NY dehydrating from loss of drool over the Christmas cake. :(

Husband's evening is pretty much shot. His Dallas Cowboys lost and I put too much tabasco in the soup and he only ate part of a bowl. Now he's got an upset stomach. :( Me - I'm okay, I've got a cast-iron stomach. Looks like the rest of the soup will be mine.

But, on the upside, we watched episode 1, season 3, of Poldark. Aidan Turner is still as gorgeous as ever.

Nov 12, 2017, 10:50pm Top

50 posts behind - I can't catch up, but I did catch the reference to Penny-i-tis even if I didn't catch the malady itself except as Megan illustrates. I'm fine with friends doing it, but I'll never pay a red ¢ for it if I can help it.
The fruit cake looks like heaven. My dear SIL spends a lot of time every year making a consistently dry and flavorless one which goes in the fridge as we throw out the one from the year before. Bless her heart!
I'm staying here and writing drivel so that I can continue to look at Aiden Turner. Oh. My. Goodness.

Nov 13, 2017, 7:03am Top

Morning, Karen. Back to the grind after my weekend off. I will survive and I will have my books along. It helps...

Hope your Monday goes smoothly.

Nov 13, 2017, 7:21am Top

>152 LizzieD: Hi Peggy. You nailed it even if you didn't read my original snarky definition. I've heard a lot of fruit cakes that should have been thrown away immediately after baking. This one is very flavorful and not dry. My mother used to make a fruit cake that was good, too - I'll have to dig that recipe out. My brother-in-law, who is getting coal in his stocking this year (I so don't want to ask my sister what to get him for Christmas.....) told my sister that fruit cakes are only good for door stops, even after hearing that I was making them. I am going to send her one -she wants one - and the label will read None for Mike if I have enough gumption to actually write that.

I agree with you about Aidan Turner. Oh. My. Goodness.

>153 msf59: Hi Mark! Sorry about the grind. My husband just left for work, too.

Today will be busy - Friends of the Library Board meeting, deep tissue massage, notary for papers for deed-in-lieu-of-foreclosure for Mom and Dad's house, chiropractor.

Nov 13, 2017, 9:35am Top

>131 karenmarie: Hi, Karen! I'm glad you liked The Day of the Triffids. I'll likely reread it sometime myself.

The fruit cake does look good. It reminds me that I need to head to the local German bakery to place an order for Stollen for Christmas. We're lucky to have a place that makes pretty good ones, so we get them for ourselves and some family members each year.

Enjoy your Monday!

Nov 13, 2017, 10:15am Top

>154 karenmarie: Busy day! Your brother is in the dog-house, huh? Is this a one-time or regular thing? ; ) And why did the dog-house become a bad thing? Have to look up the history of that one...

Edited: Nov 13, 2017, 10:18am Top

In case you were wondering...

"The expression 'in the doghouse' is first found in print in Criminalese, 1926, J. J. Finerty's glossary of the language of criminals: In dog house, in disfavor.

"References to people or dogs being 'in the doghouse' are found earlier but these a straightforward literal descriptions. The phrase began to be used with its figurative meaning widely in the USA in the 1930s. An example is found in the Iowa newspaper the Waterloo Daily Courier, January 1933:
'The poor French ambassador! You can't help but feel kinder sorry for him. He is still in the doghouse.' " --From the Phrase Finder

Edited: Nov 13, 2017, 11:39am Top

Fruitcake, the kind made in factories by the ton, is dorrstopper material from the get-go. I can't abide it, and it was the only fruitcake I knew of until I was in my 20s. Mama was decidedly not a fan of the stuff.

I found a recipe for Guinness stout fruitcake in ?Bon Appetit?Gourmet?Food & Wine? in the early 80s and decided to make it.

Was utterly heavenly.

Then found out about panettone.


Have since been willing to eat a piece of anyone's homemade fruitcake in eternal hope of discovering another moist, delicious, heavy, rich eating rapture. Had I never put my toe outside the "gift" fruitcake box, though, Mike'n'me'd be in the same doghouse about now.

ETA PS Mama loved my fruitcake, too, and asked for one every Yuletide after.

Edited: Nov 14, 2017, 9:39am Top

>157 Berly:

Not sure if these definitions count, since they read "at the" or "in a..." in place of "in the..."

1613 Overbury Characters Sargeant

'Not onely those curs at the dog-house, but those within the walls.'

1822 W. Irving Braceb. Hall

'An unhappy cur chained in a doghouse.'

Both from my lucky purchase (see my Happy Birthday to OED Thread for backstory)

of Volume D-E of James Murray's A NEW ENGLISH DICTIONARY, around 1895.

(Touchstones mostly won't apply.)

Nov 13, 2017, 10:11pm Top

>155 harrygbutler: Stollen for Christmas is wonderful. So is Julekage like my Swedish-American Aunt-by-marriage Joanne used to make. Yum.

>156 Berly: My brother-in-law, the one who got dollar signs in his eyes when my Mom died last December and thought he could boss me around. It’s a you-screwed-with-me-for-5-months-after-my-mother-died thing. I know you’re supposed to forgive people, but right now I don’t forgive him and don’t know if or when that will change.

Good stuff about being in the dog house. That’s where Mike is.

>158 richardderus: The only fruit cake I ever really remember from when I was young is from Collins Street Bakery in Corsicana Texas. It is quite wonderful and why I have positive thoughts about fruit cake.

Guinness Stout Fruit Cake? Hmm. I’m not overly fond of beer (but you love me anyway, right?)

Panettone is to die for. The one good thing the Italians I worked for did was have a Christmas reception with panettone and champagne for the salaried folks.

You could never be in the doghouse with me, RD, because I can’t imagine you being a philistine like Mike.

>159 m.belljackson: Hi Marianne! They count, IMO.

Nov 13, 2017, 11:18pm Top

Panettone - HEAVEN! It's maybe the main reason I'm sorry to have lost my one local, difficult Italian friend.

Nov 13, 2017, 11:23pm Top

>160 karenmarie: Collin Street Bakery was the source of many a fruitstop...I mean doorcake...I mean fruitcake in our house. We drove through Corsicana once in 1975 on the way to Dallas to meet up with my sister Lynne. The place ***stinks***, the water is only potable by legal definition, and Mama cracked wise about it: "No wonder that damn cake tastes like the Devil's hiney!"

I'm lukewarm about beer myownself, since gout prevents me from savoring it. Stout from a glass is a rare thing to see in my hands, though I like it fine, along with bock-style beers. I could imagine the yeastyness of stout making fruithorror into fruityummy, and luckily I was right.

Nov 13, 2017, 11:37pm Top

>161 LizzieD: Hi Peggy! It is heaven. I tried making it once, and for all that I consider myself a good baker, I failed abysmally. A good local Italian friend for Panettone just might be worth the difficulties.

>162 richardderus: Aw, fruitstop and doorcake RD? I love their fruitcake. The fruitcake I don't like is a local one made by a company called Southern Supreme. Lots of folks down here like it a lot, but I have never thought it worth the money or the calories.

I guess you and I will leave the beer for the folks around here who are serious connoisseurs.

Yay. The Panthers have seriously whupped the Dolphins, 45-21. I shall read some of The Midnight Line before keeling over for the night.

Nov 14, 2017, 6:45am Top

Morning, Karen. Mid-40s today. It should feel pretty good and it will be dry. Go Panthers!

Nov 14, 2017, 6:49am Top

Hi Mark! We cross-posted. I hope your work day goes well. At least the weather is cooperating.

I'm still pleased with the Panthers win. Cam ran a 69-yard play and was as pleased as a child when he got up from the tackle. He is an absolute joy to watch when he's on.

Nov 14, 2017, 8:41am Top

I confess to not liking Fruit cake! No to dried fruits ! I don't like rum balls either, or egg nog, or beer. It's blessing I suppose. Now, something chocolate...

Nov 14, 2017, 9:01am Top

Hi Deborah! I love dried fruit with our without the cake surrounding it. Raisins, dates, dried apricots, even prunes, yum.

You're definitely saving the calories on rum balls, egg nog, and beer. I can easily pass on all three of those items, too.

Chocolate, agree. Almost always worth the calories. Now here's a question - do you consider white chocolate as a valid type of chocolate?

Nov 14, 2017, 9:21am Top

Morning, Karen! I've been lurking but thought I should say hello :)

(And white chocolate is an abomination unto the lord.)

Nov 14, 2017, 9:38am Top

Hi Katie! Thank 'ee kindly. Delurking is always welcomed.

White chocolate is, by definition, not 'chocolate', IMO, but it can be tasty, especially when Ritz Peanut Butter crackers are coated in it.

Nov 14, 2017, 11:07am Top

>163 karenmarie: YUCK

>168 katiekrug: what she said

Let's have a snack! Smetana cake?

It's basic coffee cake only with streusel in the middle as well as on the top. YUM

Nov 14, 2017, 11:55am Top

>170 richardderus: Yum, RD! I adore coffee cakes, especially those with streusel. With a cup of fresh black coffee, of course.

I've finalized the Thanksgiving menu - it hardly varies at all but I always create a new one - and the shopping list. The shopping list will be finalized when I find out if some friends of ours are coming because if not I'll only buy 1/2 gallon of sweet tea and no unsweet tea. If they come, 1 gallon of sweet tea and 1/2 gallon of unsweet tea.

Nov 14, 2017, 12:17pm Top

I'm right partial to the streusels myownself. I like the middle-too muchly, even bigly.

Am presently reading Simon Armitage's translation of Sir Gawain and the Green Knight because, for some damnfool reason I forget, I promised Paul I'd read a poetry book of his choosing. What can I say, it's poetry. I wish it wasn't. The story's good, though.

Nov 14, 2017, 12:26pm Top

Hi, Karen! I hope you're having an enjoyable Tuesday.

Nov 14, 2017, 1:42pm Top

>172 richardderus: And have you requested that Mr. Cranswick read a book of your choosing?

In 2009 CharlesBoyd and I doubled down on the idea of reading a book we wouldn't normally read, chosen by someone else and created the very-short-lived-but-fun group I'll read Yours if You'll Read Mine

karenmarie read the description of The Rapture of Canaan “and can never imagine myself reading it. Sorry, but there it is.”

CharlesBoyd has hesitated to read Kurt Vonnegut for years “because I’ve suspected his novels are pretty weird.”

So what did we do? We each agreed to read a book we suspected we would hate.

And we went from there.

It was fun and informative. I'm afraid that life got extremely crazy for me there for a while and by the time I paid attention again the group was dormant.

Nov 14, 2017, 1:44pm Top

>173 harrygbutler: Hi Harry! Yes, I am. I've been productive - confirmed that our friend Frances is expecting my daughter and me tomorrow for a visit. I've texted Frances' son to let him know we're going to see his mom and is there anything he needs for us to do. I've booked a hotel room near where daughter lives in Wilmington so I can spend the evening with her, NOT get woken up at 6 a.m. when she gets up to go to work, and meander home at my convenience.

I've also done a lot of good reading.

Nov 14, 2017, 1:51pm Top

>174 karenmarie: Given the catholicity of PC's reading, what on earth would I "make" him read? A smutty gay romance? The man lives in Malaysia! The Secret Police would have under the jail before he got the stupid thing. I won't have Hani's premature widowhood on my conscience, no indeedy do.

Nov 14, 2017, 2:22pm Top

Doesn't have to be smutty. Or gay. Or a romance. Could be a western. Or pulp fiction. Or a mystery. Something he'd normally not pick but that would be willing to read.

Or not.

It's just a fun thing that Charles Boyd and I did once upon a time ago.

Nov 14, 2017, 2:29pm Top

No no, it'd have to be more than something just off the beaten path. After all, I'm reading *shudder* poetry. I really wish people would stop with the versifying. It's arch, it's smug, it's dull, and it's unbearably self-satisfied. Yuck.

Nov 14, 2017, 2:49pm Top

>177 karenmarie: >178 richardderus:

My go-to 'You haven't read THIS!' is Miss Finney Kills Now and Then. You can recommend this with complete confidence.

Edited: Nov 14, 2017, 3:23pm Top

>178 richardderus: RD, all it would have to be is a genre that he's unfamiliar with or has read infrequently of.
Poetry (the term derives from a variant of the Greek term, poiesis, "making") is a form of literature that uses aesthetic and rhythmic qualities of language—such as phonaesthetics, sound symbolism, and metre—to evoke meanings in addition to, or in place of, the prosaic ostensible meaning.
Well, as you'd expect, I have a strong opinion about it. My opinion is similar to yours, I think. To me, quite a bit of what's called poetry is simply descriptive prose read stylistically or rhythmically. Some of it is evocative, quite a bit of it describes minutiae in a grandiose fashion without implying any grander meaning. NOT all - please, poetry police, don't arrest me. However, I mostly prefer poetry that rhymes, except for E.E. Cummings.

Nov 14, 2017, 3:23pm Top

Well hello, Larry! I'll check it out. How are you and Parker doing? Did he forgive you for being gone?

Nov 14, 2017, 3:45pm Top

Hmm, my go-to "you haven't read this" might be The Frozen Thames. Of course, now lots of people I know have read it, because I said, you haven't read this. Sum: Forty Tales From the Afterlives and Einstein's Dreams are two more.

I can pass by rum balls, but I always trip and grab eggnog and beer.

Nov 14, 2017, 4:38pm Top

>182 jnwelch: Hi Joe!

I've only read Einstein's Dreams out of the three you mentioned.

Hmm. My go to "you haven't read this". I'll have to think on it. Right now Kitty William is crowding the keyboard and looking needy. He's also following the mouse arrow with his eyes and wants to play with it.

Edited: Nov 14, 2017, 6:34pm Top

84. The Midnight Line by Lee Child
11/11/17 to 11/14/17

The description from Amazon:

Reacher takes a stroll through a small Wisconsin town and sees a class ring in a pawn shop window: West Point 2005. A tough year to graduate: Iraq, then Afghanistan. The ring is tiny, for a woman, and it has her initials engraved on the inside. Reacher wonders what unlucky circumstance made her give up something she earned over four hard years. He decides to find out. And find the woman. And return her ring. Why not?

So begins a harrowing journey that takes Reacher through the upper Midwest, from a lowlife bar on the sad side of small town to a dirt-blown crossroads in the middle of nowhere, encountering bikers, cops, crooks, muscle, and a missing persons PI who wears a suit and a tie in the Wyoming wilderness.

The deeper Reacher digs, and the more he learns, the more dangerous the terrain becomes. Turns out the ring was just a small link in a far darker chain. Powerful forces are guarding a vast criminal enterprise. Some lines should never be crossed. But then, neither should Reacher.

Why I wanted to read it: Reacher. New. Shiny.

Of the 22 published, I’ve rated 18 of them 4 stars, 2 of them 3.5 stars, and 2 of them 3 stars. Good to Excellent. This is quite a good series.

This one starts like I like them, with a small act, a small blip in Reacher’s life, that assumes large proportions. It hits him in his gut, where he decides that he must find this woman and return her ring.

The ring is a ripple in the pond, with ever-widening circles, ending in a satisfactory way. Bad guys get comeuppance, good guys get the knowledge of having done the right thing. The woman’s story is very well done.

There’s a bit of preachiness about the criminal enterprise but lots of factual information and background too.

Overall I’d rate this one of the better more-recent ones. I was a bit surprised, though, that Lee Child allows us to see Reacher making poor decisions and only correcting them in the nick of time. There are two that come to mind immediately, but they’re both surprising given how meticulously Reacher plans things and anticipates things. Not earth shattering by any means, but Reacher seems a bit more vulnerable in this one.

Nov 14, 2017, 5:02pm Top

>179 SomeGuyInVirginia: Mine is The Delicate Ape. Nobody's heard of Dorothy B. Hughes these days and she's better at noir than Jim Thompson and as good as Dashiell Hammett.

>180 karenmarie: Really?
I think that I shall never see
A poem lovely as a tree.

A tree whose hungry mouth is prest
Against the sweet earth’s flowing breast;

A tree that looks at God all day,
And lifts her leafy arms to pray;

A tree that may in summer wear
A nest of robins in her hair;

Upon whose bosom snow has lain;
Who intimately lives with rain.

Poems are made by fools like me,
But only God can make a tree.


Nov 14, 2017, 5:12pm Top

The Midnight Line is up next for me, after I finish The Windup Bird Chronicle. Can't wait!

Nov 14, 2017, 5:27pm Top

I don't know why I don't read more Lee Child, I've always liked the Jack Reacher books.

>185 richardderus: You know why I hate that pome? Because it's supposed to be 'A poem AS lovely as a tree'.

Nov 14, 2017, 5:35pm Top

>187 SomeGuyInVirginia: I hate it for so, so many reasons..."as" is missing, gawd is invoked, the jump-rope sing-song flat-nosed duck-billed rockabye dullness of it...coy, arch, revolting.

Nov 14, 2017, 6:05pm Top

>174 karenmarie:

Paul refuses to read HARRY POTTER!

Nov 14, 2017, 6:33pm Top

And it begins. The Make Paul Read HP Campaign. *evil grin*

Hi Karen! I got the stuff for my Christmas Cake today. It took a while to find all the dried fruits I wanted, but I hit a Trader Joe's and got it done. I am substituting Pecans for the Walnuts because my husband says his mouth feels funny when he eats walnuts. Maybe it does. I am stuffed full of Asian lettuce wraps and the pumpkin bread my daughter baked today. I'm ready for bed, but I don't think I will get anywhere near bedtime for a couple of hours.

Edited: Nov 14, 2017, 6:49pm Top

>185 richardderus: Yeesh. Just because it rhymes doesn’t mean I have to like it. You’ve made your point, darling RD.

Buh blah’ Buh blah’ Buh blah’ Buh BLAH’

What about this one?
“I think that I shall never see
A billboard lovely as a tree.
Indeed, unless the billboards fall,
I’ll never see a tree at all."
-Ogden Nash
>186 jnwelch: Yay Joe! I, ah, sort of took an eensy break from TWUBC to read the Reacher. I mean, it was THERE, it NEEDED reading, it CALLED OUT to me. I will only take TWUBC and ... well... perhaps my Kindle... with me. Just for emergency backup, you understand. And there is a lovely Barnes & Noble daughter and I can visit.

>187 SomeGuyInVirginia: They are pretty darned good. All shoot-‘em up and get the bad guys and (sometimes) get the women too. In a different way than getting the bad guys, of course.

>188 richardderus: Tell us what you really think, darling Richard.

>189 m.belljackson: Ah, Marianne, you’re right. But it’s Richard’s call. I’m not sure they were playing the I’ll Read Yours If You’ll Read Mine challenge. I can't remember offhand why Richard is reading poetry and retching every other message or so.

Nov 14, 2017, 7:33pm Top

Hi Karen... stopping by to make a long overdue visit to your threads.

Taking a BB for A Gentleman in Moscow. No idea how that book has not nailed me before now. So happy to see your positive review for Olive Kitteridge. I loved that one but when I read it the reviews seem to indicate the book is polarizing.... either you love it or your hate it.

Glad to read that your surgery went ok, even if the intern caused some angst with their unfortunate comments. Bedside manner is not what it used to be.

Belated congratulation s on the 1,000!

All this talk of food, chocolates and other tantalizing goodies has my mouth watering. Wow on making fruitcake... I do not have the energy or the inclination to tackle something like that. Good thing I love mincemeat tarts over fruitcake. Those I love to make! Looks like you made a very lovely fruit cake. ;-)

>62 karenmarie: - My condolences to you and your husband.

>72 karenmarie: - I quite enjoyed The Storied Life of A.J. Fikry!

Three threads later, I am all caught up.

Nov 14, 2017, 7:40pm Top

>191 karenmarie:

This might make a fun after 2017-Holidays-into-2018 Game, a variation on I'LL READ YOURS:

1. People list five (?) books and/or genres that they actively dislike

2. Readers contribute titles that they think might inspire change or at least less contempt

3. People agree to give a book or books a try IF someone else will read X

(or something like this - not sure how your group worked this out!)

Nov 15, 2017, 6:56am Top

>192 lkernagh: Hi Lori! Thanks for stopping by. I hope you'll like A Gentleman in Moscow. It's tied with Lincoln in the Bardo as my favorite read of 2017 so far. You're the second person here who enjoyed The Storied Life of A. J. Fikry, so I'm encouraged.

I admire your persistence in going through three threads to get caught up!

>193 m.belljackson: Fun idea! As to how our group worked, Here's the link to the original thread that Charles and I started in Book Talk: Reading Books We Don't Think We'll Like

It was a very good experience for both of us.

And here, again is the group link for I'll Read Yours If You'll Read Mine: In 2009 CharlesBoyd and I doubled down on the idea of reading a book we wouldn't normally read, chosen by someone else and created the very-short-lived-but-fun group I'll read Yours if You'll Read Mine

I don't know if you want to revive IRYIYRM or start a new group - does anybody else have input?

I'll be leaving in about an hour and 15 minutes or so to visit friend Frances, then follow daughter back to Wilmington, where we plan on hanging out, shopping, having dinner, and watching a movie before she has to go back to her apartment for an early work start tomorrow.

Nov 15, 2017, 8:09am Top

Enjoy your little trip, Karen!

Nov 15, 2017, 9:33am Top

What movie are you going to see? The movies are like church for me. Come to think of it, I don't go to that church much anymore, either.

Nov 15, 2017, 9:34am Top

>188 richardderus: It does make you want to should 'Burma-Shave!' at the end.

Edited: Nov 15, 2017, 10:52am Top

>194 karenmarie: Safe travels, happy welcomes, and good memories Mme TVT du Horrible.

>197 SomeGuyInVirginia: It's a bunch of Shaving Cream all right.

Nov 15, 2017, 3:44pm Top

Have a good trip my dear and enjoy yourself, sending love and hugs.

Nov 16, 2017, 5:59pm Top

>195 harrygbutler: Thanks, Harry. I got back about 1 p.m., safe and sound. Daughter met me at Frances’ house yesterday and we spent two hours chatting. Then Frances’ meals on wheels lunch was delivered and so we got her settled at the kitchen table and left.

Frances is fiercely independent and at 93 shouldn’t actually be living alone at home. However, she has enough people checking on her every day that to force her to live somewhere else would most likely kill her. She’s even having Thanksgiving for 10! She’s having pies and some other dishes made, but once her son comes on Wednesday, will make everything else. Amazing woman.

Daughter and I left about 1, got to Wilmington, had a late lunch, and did some shopping. We had a blast in Barnes & Noble discussing various books, read and unread. One table had “Top Picks in Paperbacks”, and I had read 17 of them and had 3 more of them on my shelves. Daughter was awe struck. She expressed interest in The Silk Roads, a history book. So I saw it today, at Costco, on the way home, and have bought it for her Christmas.

We watched Who Framed Roger Rabbit since she’d never seen it before, a couple of episodes of The Office and then she went back to her apartment. I spent the night at a Best Western, had a good night’s sleep, nice breakfast, and came home at my leisure.

I’ve start reading News of the World for December’s Book Club discussion and so far it’s really holding my interest. I’ll get back to TWUBC, starting at book 2, sometime today or tomorrow.

>196 SomeGuyInVirginia: We didn’t go out to a movie, Larry. We hooked up my computer to the TV in the hotel room and used Netflix. Worked like a champ.

>197 SomeGuyInVirginia: You know, I never ever saw any of those Burma Shave billboards that I can remember, and I was 10 when they stopped using them.

>198 richardderus: Thanks, RD! It was all good.

>199 johnsimpson: Thank you, John! Had a nice time, I’m whupped. Just got up from a brief nap. Husband is having dinner with a friend, as he does most Thursdays. I’m heating some leftover Shrimp and New Potato Chowder for dinner.

Nov 16, 2017, 6:31pm Top

Sounds like you had a great visit, Karen! :-)

Nov 16, 2017, 8:01pm Top

>200 karenmarie: Perfect-sounding visit, Horrible! It's always inspiring to me to hear about people like Frances living to the end on their own terms.

Did Daughter like Who Framed Roger Rabbit?

Edited: Nov 16, 2017, 9:34pm Top

>202 richardderus: It was indeed, RD! We got to hear a couple of new stories yesterday, too, which were illuminating and interesting.

Daughter loved WFRB. She's planning on re-watching it soon, since it's Netflix and it's her account (that she kindly shares with us). It's the kind of movie that you can keep seeing things you missed the first time or so - Disney characters and Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck, Betty Boop, and etc. Lots of asides and throw-away lines and many visual clues that you have to watch carefully for. Bob Hoskins was a hoot.

Nov 16, 2017, 9:36pm Top

>203 karenmarie: It was a subtle performance, despite the relish with which he chewed the scenery. I loved it. One of the films I rewatch without losing my enjoyment in picking apart the craft secrets.

Nov 16, 2017, 11:01pm Top

Well, I missed your trip to Wilmington, Karen. Glad it was fun and that you're home safely! One of these days you're going to have to stop here and give me a call so that we may meet at last!

Nov 17, 2017, 4:40am Top

>204 richardderus: Subtle, of course. *smile*

>205 LizzieD: Hi Peggy! Thanks. I really do need to come on down there, don't I?

Insomnia. Boo, flunk. I'm reading Acts for the year-long Bible as Literature read. I've gotten rather tired of most of the preliminary commentary for each book. It reminds me of when I was writing book reports and project papers because there's a lot of puffery and charts that are intended to impress. Here's one:

Nov 17, 2017, 6:25am Top

Good morning, Karen! Sounds like a good trip indeed. It has been years since I watched Who Framed Roger Rabbit; it's probably time to give it another look.

Edited: Nov 17, 2017, 6:30am Top

>207 harrygbutler: Hi Harry! I hadn't seen WFRB since it was in the theater, and just the once at that. Daughter and I really, really enjoyed it. Lots of laugh out loud moments.

My sister thought it would be a good movie for her 9-year old daughter and 7-year old son. She was wrong, and by the end, I had one child plastered to me and she had the other child plastered to her. The ending is particularly gruesome and scary, isn't it?

Nov 17, 2017, 6:30am Top

Boo to insomnia! Hope you can get back to sleep.

Morning, Karen. Happy Friday. I can see the end of the tunnel on my long work week. Yah!

Edited: Nov 17, 2017, 2:57pm Top

>209 msf59: Hi Mark! I probably can't get back to sleep, but that's okay. I have a chiropractor's appointment, visit with friend Louise to an apartment complex in Chapel Hill to check it out, then lunch out. She will probably have to sell her house in the spring in order to keep her husband Harold in the memory unit at a nearby assisted living facility. It's very sad because she loves her home, but she's not willing to move him to a Medicaid facility as long as she has a single penny that she can use towards his care.

I'm glad there's light at the end of the tunnel.

Nov 17, 2017, 6:40am Top

I am really glad to see, that you keep yourself so busy. I plan on following that same routine once I retire. Staying active. That is the key.

Nov 17, 2017, 9:59am Top

>200 karenmarie:, >203 karenmarie: Hi Karen. Roger Rabbit! Just finished teaching the movie in my 12th grade class. I pair it with Chinatown, since much of Roger is a "remake" of that great film. The kids love it, of course.

Nov 17, 2017, 10:41am Top

>206 karenmarie: I slept really well while I was in New York, which surprised me because I usually don't in a strange bed and never on Sunday (like the movie says.) I wonder if setting the tee-bee to sleep in an hour helped me stay in la-la land, or it was simple exhaustion?

>210 karenmarie: I understand, although it is heartbreaking that she'll have to do that. Elder care is pretty awful in the US. Even the private places can be bad.

Nov 17, 2017, 10:46am Top

>210 karenmarie: That is a tough, miserable choice. It's one that a widow-in-all-but-name faces more often than not.

Single payer healthcare and Universal Basic Income are urgently needed now. Along with draconian re-regulation.

Nov 17, 2017, 11:03am Top

Marianne, Karen and RD - I would of course read anything as directed.

The reason RD was forced into Simon Armitage (not literally of course) was because I did a trump limerick upon his request. Richard is right about the dangers of censorship here in Malaysia but I don't see homosexual romances being taboo somehow because the authorities don't seem to bother to read the books. Anti-Government political books are the things that would get one into hot water here.

>210 karenmarie: That is really crap, Karen.

Nov 17, 2017, 3:34pm Top

>211 msf59: Sometimes too busy, then I get twitchy about needing a day alone in the house to just do nothing!

>211 msf59: Hi Michael! Okay. I have never thought of those two together. Interesting – my first thought is the water conspiracy and the ‘toon’ conspiracy, plus the jabs at the Red Cars and freeways. Plus lots of dirty politics all around. Wow, if I was a 12th grader, I’d love that class. What else?

>212 majleavy: Fun with your dad and good sleep in a strange bed. You had a large NYC weekend, didn't you?

Louise is so worried. We had a big discussion about the insurance they need to keep in addition to basic Medicare, too. She just needs a shoulder and someone to carefully and slowly let her see things that might make sense. Her son-in-law is bossy and domineering. Her son wants her to use a realtor who is based 40 miles away… sound familiar to what I went through with sister/BiL? They wanted me to use a relator 40 miles away from Mom’s house. Doesn’t ever make sense. Louise liked the models we saw, had a clear preference for one over the other (nice to get that hurdle out of the way!) and we drove around for about 20 minutes within Glen Lennox just looking at the area and the layout of the community (not gated).

>214 richardderus: Louise and Harold were very good savers, but Harold’s illness, even with good insurance, made keeping him at home impossible, so she is in effect keeping two households. Major sad.

I’ve thought for a while that Single Payer Healthcare was needed, but profit has reared its ugly head in the medical field in recent decades and killing that Hydra will take Draconian measures. Along with getting re-regulation in place, as you say.

>215 PaulCranswick: Hi Paul! I’ll leave that to you and RD, and whether you make it an official challenge or a sharing between friends is up to you. I won’t say another word.

Separately, I think that perhaps a 75er thread/series of threads with a similar concept to IRYIYRM might be fun.

And re Louise, it is crap and it breaks my heart to see her distraught and always worried.

I’m starting to think about how the house needs to look for Thanksgiving. I just cleaned off the little yellow table. I need to get rid of one file cabinet for sure and put the smaller one upstairs. 3 boxes of our and Mom’s papers need to get filed in said little file cabinet after it’s upstairs. Things given to me by Louise need to go upstairs. The guest bedroom needs to get back under control for daughter. The 56-gallon fish tank needs to get emptied and gotten rid of. Yeesh.

However, now it’s time to read. 

Nov 17, 2017, 4:22pm Top

Well, first, brag on my Christmas cards for 2017. THEN read.

Nov 17, 2017, 4:40pm Top

Tooth pain so keeping it short...love yr Yule cards, am sad for Louise but so very glad she has you to care for her. Overbearing well-meaning family! No! Say it ain't so.

My stepmother died today. She was 85. Got a tooth pulled. This isn't the 13th but it sure as hell felt like it.

Yuk. Going dark until tomorrow. *smooch*

Nov 17, 2017, 6:00pm Top

Ah, RD, so sorry for tooth pain. Agonizing, I am sure. I hope you have good pain meds.

Her family bothers me almost much as my sister's husband does.

I am sorry to hear about your stepmother.

Sending healing thoughts. Take care of yourself!

Nov 17, 2017, 8:35pm Top

>217 karenmarie: Hi Karen, I love your Christmas cards!

I'm very sorry for your friend, to have this money situation on top of the rest of what she must be going through with her husband. But it's good she has such a friend as you.

Nov 17, 2017, 8:57pm Top

>220 EllaTim: Thank you, Ella!

Daughter and I saw these at Barnes and Noble, and with my newfound interest in birding this year, I thought them appropriate. The inside greeting is basic - "Seasons Greetings".

I'm glad to be there for her, Ella. She's very dear to me.

Nov 17, 2017, 9:47pm Top

Good for you, Karen, with the cards! I have purchased 3 packages , and I hope to start adressing them tonight. If I do 10 per night, should be done fairly quickly, right?

Nov 18, 2017, 8:31am Top

Hi Deborah!

If you were me, you'd get them done in 7 days @ 10 a day. 14 of my cards won't be mailed - 7 for husband's work, 2 for cleaning ladies, the rest in mailboxes for our teensy subdivision. I've seriously cut down our list. It used to be around 100. I've removed people who don't respond in any way at all ever any more. This is excepting friends of my mom, and husband's mother, father, stepmother. And there are always a few people who I don't mail to and if they don't mail back, I remove them, too. If they mail back, then I mail to them and keep them on the list. Not precisely quid-pro-quo, but cards, stamps, letters, and pictures get expensive. Time I don't worry about so much any more.

I keep saying I'll use a mailing label program since I use Excel and it would be soooooo easy, but I never make it happen and listening to NPR early in the morning addressing envelopes is not a bad thing to do anyway.

Nov 18, 2017, 11:21am Top

Morning, Karen. Happy Saturday. Cold rain falling here, putting a damper on my proceedings. I will muddle through.

Enjoy your day.

Nov 18, 2017, 1:28pm Top

>224 msf59: Hi Mark! Sorry about the cold rain. I hope it goes quickly.

Husband and I just got back from our weekend errands - dump, lunch, food shopping.

Nov 18, 2017, 2:41pm Top

Karen, I'm so glad you had a fun time with your daughter recently. The time spent with our grown children is precious. I know mine are all so busy that I feel grateful when they make time for me.

Yes to Pennyitis! I don't mind a well-placed sentence fragment used for emphasis, but when it becomes overused, it is like nails on a chalkboard to me. You said what I was trying to hint at in my little review on my thread.

Also, I liked your comment way up there ^^^ about getting hit by a book bullet on your own thread. It also reminded me to pull down my copy of Truman Capote's A Christmas Memory. I have the 50th anniversary edition. It's a lovely hardcover with the original illustrations. I try to read it shortly after Thanksgiving so I can get in the proper Christmas spirit!

Nov 18, 2017, 4:46pm Top

Hi, Karen!

>208 karenmarie: Yes, not a movie for children.

>217 karenmarie: Very appropriate cards. Our list has shrunk a good deal over the years, too.

Nov 18, 2017, 4:56pm Top

>226 Donna828: Hi Donna. Thank you. I always tell her that she's a keeper!

"Nails on a chalkboard" is a very good description of my response to those dratted sentence fragments.

My very own copy of A Christmas Memory is due soon from Amazon. I'm excited about it. I'll read it after Thanksgiving, too, because I'm trying to avoid Christmas until then. Always excepting the discovery of the perfect Christmas cards, of course.

>227 harrygbutler: Hi Harry. Thanks. I love these cards!

Nov 18, 2017, 9:29pm Top

I hope Sunday's reading will sweep you away and keep you gruntled and kempt.

Edited: Nov 19, 2017, 8:17am Top

85. News of the World by Paulette Jiles
11/16/17 to 11/18/17

The description from Amazon:

It is 1870 and Captain Jefferson Kyle Kidd travels through northern Texas, giving live readings to paying audiences hungry for news of the world. An elderly widower who has lived through three wars and fought in two of them, the captain enjoys his rootless, solitary existence.

In Wichita Falls, he is offered a $50 gold piece to deliver a young orphan to her relatives in San Antonio. Four years earlier, a band of Kiowa raiders killed Johanna’s parents and sister; sparing the little girl, they raised her as one of their own. Recently rescued by the U.S. army, the ten-year-old has once again been torn away from the only home she knows.

Their 400-mile journey south through unsettled territory and unforgiving terrain proves difficult and at times dangerous. Johanna has forgotten the English language, tries to escape at every opportunity, throws away her shoes, and refuses to act “civilized.” Yet as the miles pass, the two lonely survivors tentatively begin to trust each other, forging a bond that marks the difference between life and death in this treacherous land.

Arriving in San Antonio, the reunion is neither happy nor welcome. The captain must hand Johanna over to an aunt and uncle she does not remember—strangers who regard her as an unwanted burden. A respectable man, Captain Kidd is faced with a terrible choice: abandon the girl to her fate or become—in the eyes of the law—a kidnapper himself. Exquisitely rendered and morally complex, News of the World is a brilliant work of historical fiction that explores the boundaries of family, responsibility, honor, and trust.

Why I wanted to read it: This is the first book of our new book club year, discussion to be held on December 3rd.

This book is as spare and beautiful as the land Captain Kidd and Johanna travel through. Each word is deliberate, each action teaching us about them yet highlighting the goal of returning Johanna to her aunt and uncle. She is wild, confused, Kiowa, not German. The Captain reaches out to her in perhaps the only way she can understand: being practical, being commanding, treating her respectfully but with expectations.

Johanna’s Kiowa take on reality is so different from Captain Kidd’s that amusing situations arise. The Kiowa understanding of animals, food, and private property are contrasted nicely with the American understanding of the same. The humor comes out in the Captain’s reactions to Johanna’s perceptions of reality.

As they survive dangers and hardships, the Captain takes Johanna into his heart and Johanna makes the third major adjustment of her young life by becoming Kidd’s granddaughter in spirit. She depends on him completely yet gives as much as she receives.

The portrayal of a child captured by Native Americans, adopted and assimilated and then returned to the world she was taken from is beautifully done, alternating between the Captain’s understanding of what she must be going through and the inklings and hints of how Johanna is perceiving things. The phonetic spelling of Cho-henna’s first stumbling English words is a vivid way to show her otherness. She's a blond-haired, blue-eyed Kiowa.

In reality, we learn more about the Captain than we do of Johanna, and it’s all to his credit. He is an honorable and brave man.

The ending seemed like a video in fast forward compared to the purposeful movement of the story of getting Johanna to her aunt and uncle. To say any more would be spoilerish. It all worked, however.

Edited: Nov 18, 2017, 11:18pm Top

How can I be 25 behind????
My sympathy to Louise and psychic support for her making hard decisions and getting on with it.
>206 karenmarie: That's dire. How could anybody possibly think such a chart would be helpful?
>230 karenmarie: My second - at least - notice that I should investigate News of the World. Thanks for the fine review!

Nov 18, 2017, 11:22pm Top

>230 karenmarie: - This book is one I really want to get my hands on. Soon...

Nov 19, 2017, 12:10am Top

>194 karenmarie: I'll Read Yours If You'll Read Mine, sounds like a fun group. If I were reading 100 books a year, I would definitely join :)

>230 karenmarie: this one got a lot of heat here on LT didn't it? I remember thinking I ought to read it at some point.

Nov 19, 2017, 6:09am Top

>230 karenmarie: Lovely review!

Have a happy Sunday, Karen.

Nov 19, 2017, 6:56am Top

>231 LizzieD: Howdy-do-do, Peggy. This has been an epic year for threads and visitors. Sometimes I can hardly keep up on my own thread.

I am reading every blasted book summary, chart, and chapter header so that I can say I read The Literary Study Bible. I am irritated at the complexity of the charts and the self-evident comments that seem there to me for no other reason than to appear erudite.

I only started paying attention to what people were saying about News of the World after Book Club member Nancy chose it last month for December’s read. I hadn’t read any reviews prior to reading it because I never do except if a review of a book I hadn't heard about then becomes a book bullet. I very rarely read reviews after I've finished a book either.

January’s read will be A Good Man is Hard to Find by Flannery O’Conner. While discussing whether to choose it, Blanche, our least-expected-to-be-racy member said (don’t click on spoiler if you don’t want to see a sexual reference) A Hard Man is Good to Find.

>232 jessibud2: Hi Shelley! Well worth it, IMO. And, for me, it’s nice to start the new Book Club year with a winner.

>233 LovingLit: Hey Megan! What amazed me was how much I liked The Rapture of Canaan. Probably a bit more than Charles liked Slaughterhouse Five.

NotW is a sweet little book. There’s violence in it, of course, being the 1870s in Texas, but sweet nonetheless.

>234 EllaTim: Hi Ella! Thank you.

We have no plans today. I do want to move a decommissioned file cabinet out to the garage to await transport to the dump’s take-it-for-free room, but that’s it. Perhaps puttering to get ready for Thanksgiving, definitely reading.

I’ve started a memoir by Agatha Christie, Come, Tell Me How You Live about her time on archaeological digs with her second husband Sir Max Mallowan.

Nov 19, 2017, 8:06am Top

I have been reading Versus by Ogden Nash. Here's one I remember reading a long time ago, now discovered on page 61. It's the perfect Nash poem - unexpected rhymes, great visuals.

Tableau at Twilight

I sit in the dusk. I am all alone.
Enter a child and an ice-cream cone.

A parent is easily beguiled
By sight of this coniferous child.

The friendly embers warmer gleam,
The cone begins to drip ice cream.

Cones are composed of many a vitamin.
My lap is not the place to bitamin.

Although my raiment is not chinchilla,
I flinch to see it become vanilla.

Coniferous child, when vanilla melts
I’d rather it melted somewhere else.

Exit child with remains of cone.
I sit in the dusk. I am all alone,

Muttering spells like an angry Druid,
Alone, in the dusk, with the cleaning fluid.

Edited: Nov 19, 2017, 8:18am Top

>230 karenmarie: Hooray for News of the World, (Your touchstone is incorrect). If you post it, I will Thumb it. I loved this book too and I agree with you about a slightly rushed ending. I also recommend The Color of Lightning.

Morning, Karen. Happy Sunday. Still making my way through Sleeping Beauties, at the 550 page mark. There is much to enjoy here but like much of King's work, why does it NEED to be so doggone long? Honestly, I think this would have worked at half the length.

Nov 19, 2017, 8:21am Top

>237 msf59: Hi Mark, and thanks. I just fixed the touchstone.

I won't be reading Sleeping Beauties this year, I'm afraid. I really, really want to hit my 100 book goal, and with The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle coming in at 607 pages and me only starting Book 2 on page 175, I'm slipping in other relatively short books as the mood strikes.

Hence (my daughter loves it when I use this word) no more chunksters for the year.

Nov 19, 2017, 11:24am Top

>236 karenmarie: ...cant...breathe...laughing

Edited: Nov 19, 2017, 11:55am Top

Hi, Karen. I'm glad News of the World worked for you. Good for you for taking on the challenge of The Windup Bird Chronicle. It may be his most complex one, and that's saying something.

P.S. >236 karenmarie: Ha! You inspired me to pick up a "Best of" Ogden Nash collection, which I hope to get to soon.

Nov 19, 2017, 1:35pm Top

I've just finished a late lunch of chocolate truffles and Gatorade. Damn that Costco anyway. By dinner I'll have that yearning hunger when I eat junk and my body holds out for real food.

>235 karenmarie: I have a fierce passion for Flannery O'Connor, one of the few authors I'm completely at ease with.

Nov 19, 2017, 3:06pm Top

Hi Karen, Karen says feed the cake today and then next Sunday my dear. Karen uses the cap of the brandy bottle as her measure and drizzles two to three capfuls over the top and bottom of each cake but be careful not to make the cakes too soggy. Keep the cake wrapped up until Christmas and the flavour will be lovely by then.

Hope you have had a good weekend dear friend.

Nov 19, 2017, 3:11pm Top

>239 richardderus: *smile* and *smooches* from TVT Horrible

>240 jnwelch: Hi Joe. Oh yes, it certainly did. Perfect in its own way. I've been reading TWUBC today, am now to page 217.

Go for it! Ogden Nash is laugh-out-loud readable.

>241 SomeGuyInVirginia: What an .... interesting....lunch, Larry. If I was going to do a chocolate lunch it would either be Butterfingers or See's, depending on See's availability. But, yum. Gatorade? I guess to keep your electrolytes in balance as you skew them with the chocolate, eh? Real food for dinner will make sense for sure.

I've never read anything by Flannery O'Connor, so this should be pretty exciting. It's interesting you say completely at ease with. I've never thought about authors that way before, so will mull that around a bit.

Give Parker skritches.....

I just spent an hour on the phone with my sister - all good. I was a bit of a b**ch and told her that although I'd prefer to get her husband coal in his stocking for Christmas, I'd appreciate a suggestion or two. She said that they never have money to eat out, so an Olive Garden Gift Card would be welcome. I can do that, and it directly benefits her, too.

Nov 19, 2017, 3:15pm Top

>216 karenmarie: Hi Karen, how ya doin'? Wasn't sure if your question "what else?" was about the link between the films or the other films in the course, so I'll answer both (at the risk of being boring).

Chinatown and Roger Rabbit mostly just share some basic plot elements: an adultery investigation leading to the discovery of a conspiracy based on actual LA history (the water wars and the streetcar conspiracy, respectively) and the need for the detective to return to the unpredictable place of the Other which a previous tragedy had led him to avoid. Otherwise, there are numerous nods: the scene of Roger being shown the photographs riffs heavily on the opening of Chinatown; Jessica drives a car much like Evelyn Mulwray's; there are a couple of nods to the half-shadowed faces of C'town; the humans-only clientele of the Ink-and-Paint club positions toons as counterparts of the Mexican and Chinese servants hovering around the edges of the action in C'town; so forth.

The class viewing list has also featured the Babe films (with the kids writing an essay on animal cruelty); Mary Poppins and Elephant Man (essay on life at the heart of Empire); and the semester will finish with Detroit and Do the Right Thing (essay on police-minority relations in conjunction with their Government class). Chinatown essay was on a topic of their choice.

Nov 19, 2017, 3:25pm Top

>244 majleavy: I'm doing pretty well, Michael, all things considered. Getting ready for Thanksgiving, started doing some Christmas shopping.

Thank you! I haven't seen Chinatown in quite a while, and I can't wait to watch them both again soon. I'll be more aware because of your comments.

I've watched Babe, Mary Poppins, and Elephant Man, but not Detroit or Do the Right Thing.

I'm envious of your 12th graders.

Nov 19, 2017, 5:17pm Top

>245 karenmarie: I'm envious of your 12th graders Thanks. My AP 12th graders are envious, too: reading Chinua Achebe's Things Fall Apart doesn't strike them as a fair trade for the Rabbit.

Nov 19, 2017, 6:01pm Top

>243 karenmarie: Sounds like the perfect Christmas gift for your your BiL :-)

Nov 19, 2017, 10:27pm Top

>1 karenmarie: I love those old 1950ish black and white photos. I few months ago, while trying to find something in the basement, I came across a photo album filled with black and white photos that had edged pieces holding each photo in place. In one photo, my sisters and I (each two years and two days apart in age) are standing by the Christmas tree. My mother rigidly stands by the tree that has each and every strand of tinsel exactly even.

She is very pregnant with baby number four...finally a boy. I often wonder how she was able to have four children, a perfectly cleaned house and all of us girls dressed in the same dress, different sizes of course, but the same dress. Our hair was short with bangs high up on the forehead.

Photos bring back so many memories. I remember that I wanted a Chatty Cathy doll and a Parcheesi game.

Many thanks to you for visiting my thread so often. I deeply appreciate it.

Nov 19, 2017, 10:57pm Top

Love the Nashery - also the Fo'C whatever-you-call-it. Puts me in mind of the horrid time I tried to say, "Huck Finn," in front of a class of 11th graders and spoonerized it. It took almost as long to live that down as it would have if I hadn't caught my typo in my first letter to parents one year. I signed it Piggy McL. My life wouldn't have been worth living.

Edited: Nov 20, 2017, 5:47am Top

>246 majleavy: Hi Michael! Our book club read Things Fall Apart in 1999 and I …. er…. didn’t finish it. I’m with your 12th graders. I was always in honors English and read quite a few classics and important books, but we didn’t read ‘world’ literature. My loss, but it has really caused me to prefer US and UK authors just for comfort level.

>247 FAMeulstee: I can do it without retching because I know it’s really for my sister. I know I should be more forgiving. I just don’t have it in me at this time.

>248 Whisper1: Linda! How lovely to see you here.

What a great find. We have one of those somewhere, but unfortunately quite a few of the pictures were removed.

I remember tinsel-filled trees and pregnant photos of Mom.

Your mom sounds amazing. Four children. Perfectly clean house, seamstress.

Our Christmas requests were modest, weren’t they, in general? No long lists. Of course we didn’t know how much things cost, but requesting even a bike was a gamble – my husband got one for Christmas when he was 9 (I think 9), and it was the highlight of his entire year. My sister wanted dolls and I think she got a Chatty Cathy one time.

Parcheesi was fun. We played it, Scrabble, Monopoly, card games, Candy Land, Chutes and Ladders, and etc. I’m going to have to find the picture of me in my new Blue Bird uniform holding my new Scrabble game with the family at Christmas. I can't find that one, but here's "Pomeroy Christmas Hawthorne CA 1961 2". Doug, me, Dad, Laura. The other one actually has my mother in it, not just her leg and "Rose" skirt. And I just noticed my Dad was wearing a bow tie.

>249 LizzieD: Hi Peggy! I don’t know what it is when you switch words, may have to try to find out what it is. Oh my. Eleventh grade, too. And I’m glad you proofread your letter.

In 6th grade everybody had to read out loud in front of the class, and when I stood up the side zipper of my red skirt was down. It took all year to live that one down, too. But you get many, many more points for your spoonerism.

Well, here I am again with insomnia. My right hip and lower back are hurting and kept me awake after what was supposed to be a brief interruption of dreams and back to sleep. First cup of coffee, Kitty on the printer, getting ready to do some reading after thread patrol.

Edited: Nov 20, 2017, 7:32am Top

Morning, Karen. Happy Monday. I am off today, so it is a happy one for me too. I plan on going for a hike with Bree and Duke later on. It looks like it will be a nice fall day.

Oh yeah- I LOVED Do the Right Thing!! Spike Lee's finest moment.

Nov 20, 2017, 8:25am Top

>250 karenmarie: Hi Karen, that's a nice picture, happy Christmas.

The back and hip pain thing sounds familiar, I have a similar problem. You might have tried this, but for me it helps, having some props in bed. For me the pain seems to come from the si-joints. I need a small pillow between my knees, when I'm on my side, and a folded beach towel while I'm on my back. It's all a bit awkward, but it does help.

I don't sleep well at the moment too, but for me the cause is noise, a buzzing sound coming from one of my neighbors, but which one I have still to find out, and when I find it, I still have to get them to do something about it. Sometimes it isn't so bad to live in the middle of nowhere.

Nov 20, 2017, 10:02am Top

Hi, Karen. Sorry to hear hip and lower back pain kept you awake. Any possibility you need a hip replacement? I've had both replaced (mine were bad enough that a nurse said, you're lucky you only have two - ha!), and they've been a godsend. It was disrupted sleep that got me looking into it.

Edited: Nov 20, 2017, 10:34am Top

>251 msf59: Good morning, Mark! Sounds like a very nice day off.

>252 EllaTim: Thanks, Ella! It brings back happy memories.

My chiropractor said to use a pillow between my knees, just haven't remembered to do it. Perhaps tonight.

Ugh. neighbor noise. Good luck getting it resolved.

>253 jnwelch: Hi Joe! I suppose hip replacement surgery is a possibility, but the pain goes away once I'm up and about. I have a mattress topper that's almost 2 years old on a very firm mattress. Perhaps it's time for a new topper. A less invasive solution, for sure.

Nov 20, 2017, 10:41am Top

Ugh, pain insomnia rots on ice. I'm sorry it happened to you again. *smooch*

Nov 20, 2017, 12:31pm Top

Hi Karen--I think the Live Garden GC is a great compromise, and as you said, your sister will get to benefit. TWUBC is taking up what little reading time I have and not helping my book numbers either. I want to get it done and then choose some lighter (content and pages) fare till I hit the magic 100! Wishing you happy Monday!

Nov 20, 2017, 1:16pm Top

I remember one Christmas in Germany, I must have been 7 or 8, and thinking 'Well, we're a long way from the US so I'd better be prepared to act excited if it's nothing but pull toys made out of wood and a tin ski gondola. I was thrilled when I got a remote controlled Godzilla and no wood toys anywhere.

Nov 20, 2017, 4:28pm Top

>256 Berly: Hi Berly! I feel good about it, for sure. I'm on page 223 of TWUBC and page 46 of Come, Tell Me How You Live. I'm also about 2/3 of the way through Versus by Ogden Nash and will finish The Literary Study Bible by the end of the year.

I just got a beautiful slipcased copy of A Christmas Memory by Truman Capote. It's short and sweet. *smile*

And, I just saw Murder on the Orient Express. Poetic license and all that, but there were some things I thought unnecessary and perhaps not even close to the book. Warning! Major spoiler. I seem to think that they stabbed Ratchett one at a time, not all in a frenzy.

There were 3 people total at the 1:05 p.m. showing.

Nov 20, 2017, 4:31pm Top

Hi Karen, hope you had a lovely weekend my dear and that the cake is looking good. Sending love and hugs dear friend.

Nov 20, 2017, 4:47pm Top

>258 karenmarie: re spoiler, yes.

Nov 20, 2017, 5:33pm Top

I'm thinking more and more I'll wait for MotOE to get to Amazon Prime or Netflix rather than seeing it in the theater. The mixed reviews are hard to ignore...

Nov 20, 2017, 6:27pm Top

Hi Karen. I've been trundling through getting caught up.
I have so much sympathy for your friend and the health care woes. My MIL has lost her healthcare because ding dang CA promised them years ago if they did not pay SS and Medicare taxes, they would give them additional health benefits and pay for all of them, and that the CA retirement benefit would be sufficient for Both of their needs. Only the great promisers of things didn't "foresee" the changes to the SS rules and didn't allow for the fact that my MIL would be a stay at home mom for all the years and not pay in to SS herself. So now, she has to pay for Medicare because she has no SS benefits. Mind boggling. It's not a horribly sad tale because she has enough saved that she can manage to pay for her Medicare, but it's a huge hassle and very confusing, and we get different information depending on who we talk to. Blah. Plus, she's justifiably upset at the thought of losing her the doctors she's had for years and years.

Your holiday cards are gorgeous.

Sorry about the insomnia. :( I hope it goes away soon.

Edited: Nov 20, 2017, 10:33pm Top

Oh, I got a Chatty Cathy for some birthday or Christmas long ago! One year I was really lucky at Christmas. Unfortunatly I had to get my tonsils out about a week before Christmas, so for compensation, I guess, my parents got me Kenner's Easy Bake Oven! Oh that was a wonderful gift back in the day!

By the way, my husband sleeps with about 3 small pillows as he has some sort of nephropathy that of course the doctors cannot fix. He can't sleep without them. I also sleep with a small pillow between my knees. The pillows can really help.

Nov 20, 2017, 10:56pm Top

>248 Whisper1: Chatty Cathy doll and a Parcheesi game
I love childhood *needs*. Mine was a plain old Barbie, but mum wouldn't let us have them. I love that about her now :)
When we lived together, me and my sister bought lots of Barbies from second hand shops and planted them head first in spot plants! A strange homage to the toy we never had.

Nov 21, 2017, 6:52am Top

Morning, Karen. Back to work today but at least I have Thursday off. Grins...

Enjoy your day.

Nov 21, 2017, 8:18am Top

>259 johnsimpson: Hi John! Thanks, I did. The cakes are perking right along. Sending love and hugs to you and Karen.

>260 richardderus: Yup, RD! Once it settles down after T-Day, I’ll re-read it, just so I can grumble about how different the movie was.

>261 katiekrug: Hi Katie! Not a bad idea. Frankly, in hindsight, I could have used the time differently although it was a stunning luxury to just go to a movie by myself.

>262 nittnut: Hi Jenn! Oh my goodness. CA – as in California? I lived there and worked there from 1953-1976 and 1980 – 1991. She’s very fortunate that there’s enough savings to provide. Getting a different story depending on who you speak to has become more and more prevalent, I’m afraid. Poor MiL.

Thank you re my holiday cards. I need to remember to show them to my husband. *smile* From that sentence you can probably tell that I do all the Christmas card work. It’s a labor of love.

Last night no insomnia. I had to wake up to the alarm because the cleaning ladies came about 7:45 or so. I also conducted an experiment last night – I slept on the couch in my Retreat. My hip still hurts a bit, but not nearly as much as the bed. This may mean a new mattress topper.

>263 vancouverdeb: Hi Deborah! I think my sister got an Easy-Bake Oven. We loved those little cake mixes. It was wonderful, although think of the stereotypes it furthered! How I escaped the Barbie stereotypes I'll never know.

Drat. I forgot to sleep with a pillow last night. In the kerfuffle about sleeping on the couch it didn’t happen. Okay, I just set an alarm on my cell phone for 11 tonight titled “Pillow between my knees”!

>264 LovingLit: Poor you, Megan! I don’t think having a Barbie traumatized me, but you never know. *smile*
I got my Barbie when I was 8, in 1961. She was the original blonde ponytail Barbie. Her head got a slit in it on the neck and so I eventually ‘liberated’ my sister’s platinum bubble-hair cut Barbie. I’ve still got her, Ken, and clothes/accessories.


Barbies in spot plants. What I’d call pots or planters? Either way, very …. Unusual.

>265 msf59: Hi Mark! I hope work is easy today. Do all postal workers get Thanksgiving off?

Nov 21, 2017, 9:01am Top

Hi, Karen! Old Christmas photos are great. I have some, and am always happy to see others. Have a great Tuesday!

Edited: Nov 21, 2017, 10:11am Top

I loved my Barbies. I had very complex story lines for all of them. I know it's woefully un-PC or whatever of me, but I don't get Barbie hatred. It seems to me kids will play with them within the context of their understanding of the world, usually as taught by their parents. I was a chubby kid and my Barbie did not fill me with self-loathing. I didn't become materialistic because I played with Barbies. I became who I am because of my environment and my parents and family and schools and teachers. Children who play with wooden blocks and vegan stuffed animals aren't going to naturally turn into better adults.

My dad once made a snarky comment about how much time I spent playing Barbies and my mother just told him that Ann (my sister) wrote her stories down, and Katie acted them out with her dolls and what was wrong with that?

I'll climb off my soap box now.

Nov 21, 2017, 10:19am Top

Dolls...all dolls without exception...give me nightmares. Always have. They're like clowns to me, things that look like humans gone wrong. This could also explain, now that I think about it for a minute, why "superhero" stuff makes me squirm.

Edited: Nov 21, 2017, 10:50am Top

>267 harrygbutler: Hi Harry and thanks. I still want to find the one that actually has my mother in it, but that'll have to wait.

>268 katiekrug: Hi Katie! As you can tell, I loved Barbie, too. But in my era we only had one Barbie and, if we were lucky, one Ken. My sister had a Midge, but I have the Midge body (logo on her butt..... *smile*), Laura's Barbie head, and my original 1961 Barbie body.

My daughter never, ever liked dolls. She loved soft animals. It hurt a few family feelings when dolls were never played with until they finally realized that there were presents to buy her that she might actually play with.

>269 richardderus: Sorry, RD. Clowns give me the willies, always have. I've never liked superhero stuff either, didn't like comic books, and the only dolls I ever played with were Betsy Wetsy (come to think of it, eeeewwww.......) and Barbie. I did love Troll Dolls, though. We called them Dam dolls, never new why, and looking them up I see that their creator's last name was Dam.

Dwain and Courtney are here to powerwash the concrete and porches. Yay. It will look much nicer for Thanksgiving, which is supposed to be mostly sunny with a high of 50F.

Nov 21, 2017, 11:27am Top

Each to her own, of course, but that weird little thing is appealing to you? *shrug*

I'm expecting the same weather with slightly lower temps, making it up to 44° on Holocaust of the Avians. I'll be safely ensconced in my room because the facility's meal is saltless, flavorless turkey (which I don't like anyway) and saltless, pork-less stuffing. My crockpot will be pressed into service to make sausage cornbread stuffing and that, my dear, is my happy place! Cranberries and stuffing with lots of sausage, veggie saute, and then punkin pie for afters.


Nov 21, 2017, 11:36am Top

>271 richardderus: - Stuffing sans sausage is just wrong.

Nov 21, 2017, 11:45am Top

>272 katiekrug: Complete agreement. I love cornbread stuffing and will eat it anyway, but sans sausage (and for my taste Granny Smith apples) it loses much of what makes it so delish. The kitchen makes theirs with celery and carrots, so that's good, but no onions and the saute is more of a simmer in plain unsalted water. Not very much like my own butter saute followed by full-sodium chicken broth to moisten the cornbread for cooking.

Now I'm drooling...

Nov 21, 2017, 12:03pm Top

Now I'm drooling, too....

My mother's family recipe, which I adored and which my aunt also claimed to follow but hers never turned out as delicious as Mom's, used regular white bread (they were Irish, I'm just glad it wasn't Irish soda bread!), sausage, butter, onions, celery, chicken broth (I think), and Bell's poultry seasoning. And she cooked it in the bird, but then took it out and stuck it in the oven to make sure it was fully cooked, and the top would get a little dried out and yummy and a perfect bite would have a ittle bit of the crisp top combined with the moist, sausage-y part... *drool*

Nov 21, 2017, 1:17pm Top

Where I grew up, we never stuffed the birds. We ate cornbread dressing. Sausage was not an ingredient, and I never even heard of putting sausage in it until I was an adult and out on my own. I'll never forget my first encounter with dressing/stuffing made with white bread. I found some place I could go spit it out of my mouth. I hated the texture, and I also hated the oysters in that one. I was in graduate school, living several states away from my parents. I'd gone to visit some friends who lived in Mississippi for awhile but had moved back north, about 35 miles away from me. I left the rest of it untouched on my plate.

Edited: Nov 21, 2017, 2:15pm Top

>271 richardderus: They don’t any more, RD dear, but when I was young I had several and I used to make clothes for them out of felt, color coordinated! I gave them all to my niece in a fit of niceness because I knew she loved them, but really wish I’d kept them for daughter.

Saltless, flavorless turkey and saltless pork-less stuffing. Not a happy Thanksgiving place at all. Yay for your crockpot.

Husband’s Aunt Ann makes cornbread sausage stuffing and a smaller dish of cornbread pecan stuffing for me because although I love sausage, I don’t like it in or on anything, just by itself on a plate with eggs and toast. Ditto bacon. Everybody else raves over the cornbread sausage stuffing, though.

>272 katiekrug: Hi Katie! When Aunt Ann doesn’t come I make a sourdough stuffing with celery, onions, butter, broth, S&P, Granny Smith apples if I have them in the house, and toasted pecans that is pretty darned good, even if there’s no sausage in it.

>273 richardderus: I don’t like onions in very many things, but they must be in stuffing. And sautéed with butter first. Drool too.

>274 katiekrug: I don’t cook stuffing in the bird any more. Less fat and flavor percolate through to it, but the recipe I use to cook the bird (450F for 3 ¼ hours for a 16-lb bird) just wouldn’t work with stuffing. (In case you're wondering, the turkey comes out moist, flavorful, and since we serve Thanksgiving buffet style husband carves the turkey onto platters before the meal. It comes out of the tin foil a bit browned but not brown all over like the commercials show. But those beautiful turkeys look dry to me.)

>275 thornton37814: Hi Lori! When I was growing up in California, my mom used packaged stuffing but sautéed celery and onions in butter and cooked it in the bird, so I didn’t know any better and it tasted wonderful to me.

Oysters are evil. I cannot abide them. I had oyster stuffing at a cousin’s for Thanksgiving one year when I was a teenager. I love seafood so thought I’d love it. I wanted to spit it out of my mouth because it tasted rotten to me, but gagged it down. I actually thought the oysters had gone bad, but everybody else loved it. Second attempt, boyfriend’s sister-in-law’s Oyster Stuffing several years later, same disgusting taste and texture. Oysters nevermore.

It’s funny you mention texture, because I don’t particularly like the texture of cornbread stuffing. It tastes mealy to me, but eat it because Aunt Ann makes a special effort to make sausage-less for me. I prefer my own sourdough stuffing (cubed, toasted lightly, then combined with everything else.)

Nov 21, 2017, 2:22pm Top

My mom used packaged stuffing - Pepperidge Farm cubed bread which I see now comes in different flavors... I don't think it did back then. It was just cubed bread, as I recall.

Ah, memories..... :)

Your stuffing does sound pretty darn good, Karen! I've never had stuffing with apples in it, but it seems like it would work nicely.

Nov 21, 2017, 2:42pm Top

Properly, stuffing is cooked inside the bird and dressing baked outside it, but I call it all stuffing because no one ever asks what it is if I refer to it as stuffing.

I adore chestnut oyster dressing and eggplant oyster casserole. I can't indulge often anymore because oysters are not good for gout and eggplant, dammit anyway, brings on an attack in me inside an hour.

*still drooling*

Nov 21, 2017, 6:00pm Top

>277 katiekrug: Everything has different flavors now. Grocery shopping can be stressful.

Yes, memories. I seem to think Mom used to have cooked carrots at Thanksgiving..... other times too, but specifically at Thanksgiving. I also remember one year she served ham and it was the Worst Thanksgiving Ever. Poor Mom.

>278 richardderus: You're right.... dressing if it's cooked outside the bird. That's odd about eggplant, RD - is it the skin? I haven't had it in forever, but I absolutely adore fresh eggplant parmesan.

I repeat, Oysters are evil.

Nov 21, 2017, 6:32pm Top

Eggplant's flesh is high in purines. It's a myth that gout is caused by dietary overindulgence, but certain chemicals in food and alcohol excite the uric-acid producing system to higher production and that can cause a gout attack. I've had to stop spreading caponata on my ham sammies and, let me tell you what, that makes for One Unhappy Old Man.

Nov 22, 2017, 7:01am Top

Morning, Karen. Happy Wednesday. Only 35 today. I will be bundled up.

Edited: Nov 22, 2017, 8:08am Top

>280 richardderus: Ah. You are, as always, a font of information. I also now know what caponata is. *purine-free smooches*

>281 msf59: Good morning, Mark! Thank you. Brrrr! It's 51F here and going to get to balmy 63F. Tomorrow's high, on the other hand, will only be about 50F.

I was up from 2:30 - 5:30, then slept again' til about 15 minutes ago. New fresh cup of coffee is on the horizon.

Nov 22, 2017, 9:15am Top

>269 richardderus: One night when I was about 9, my Mom had a lot of people over for drinks. I was downstairs watching an episode of Night Gallery, the one where the pretty girl doll comes alive and starts killing people. I was so freaked out I ran upstairs and crashed the party, shouting "The doll!! It's alive!!" To this day I don't like movies where dolls come alive and start killing people. Poltergeist threw me into a white knuckle fit.

I'm fortunate that I grew up before medicating kids became a common thing.

Nov 22, 2017, 9:23am Top

Hi, Karen! Happy Thanksgiving Eve!

It's likely to be a pretty quiet day, as it is fairly gray out, but that should be conducive to some reading.

Nov 22, 2017, 11:01am Top

Happy day of rest, Horrible dear. Give yourself a treat and eat a ham and provolone sandwich with caponata some day. Oh. Em. Gee.

>283 SomeGuyInVirginia: The entire Chucky series affected me much the same way. Let's not even *discuss* what Jaws did.

I'm not sure I share your relief re medication.

Nov 22, 2017, 3:34pm Top

Hi Karen, your willpower with the cakes is admiral my dear, just think how nice it will be in five weeks time, that's what I keep saying to myself.

It has been an up and down week with the weather here, yesterday it was around 48F yet today we had a windy 59F and yet tomorrow it is back to 48F and getting cooler through the weekend with temps of 39F but then you need to add the wind chill factor so it could be as low as 32F.

I will make sure I am in a warm spot with a pot of tea and a book and all will be well with me.

Sending love and hugs from both of us.

Nov 22, 2017, 7:15pm Top

>283 SomeGuyInVirginia: Hi Larry! Dolls, clowns, what else? The Time Machine scared the bejeebers out of me when Mom and Dad incorrectly thought my 7-year-old-self wouldn’t get nightmares at the Morlocks disintegrating to bones then reanimating. Months and months of nightmares.

>284 harrygbutler: Thanks, Harry! Today daughter and I made pumpkin, pecan, and banana cream pies, all from scratch, all scratch crusts. We also made the sweet potato casserole (streusel in a baggie in the fridge to be put on tomorrow just before baking). Daughter and husband are talking animatedly in the living room and I am getting a moment of alone time to relax and be painfully aware that my feet are killing me. All in a good cause, though. Tomorrow we’ll have to hump it, as guests arrive at 2 p.m. and we’ll eat about 3:30. Six total, a nice manageable group.

>285 richardderus: No rest for the wicked tomorrow, RD! I love Thanksgiving and am soooo happy when I can finally sit down, desserts on the buffet, coffee made and available, Dallas-whoever game on (for husband and friend Geoff), and a new batch of ibuprophen taken.

Note taken. Ham, provolone, caponata. Aye, aye, sir. *smart salute and a smooch*

>286 johnsimpson: Hi John! I’m happy to wait for them to percolate with the brandy. We did open the non-brandied one for daughter today, took a small slice and she had 2/3 of it and I had 1/3 of it. She loved it, and so did I. So flavorful. A huge hit with both of us. Daughter has broken away from the siren lure of alcohol in any form. She knows there’s alcoholism on both sides of the family, and when she saw a tendency to self-medicate with it, immediately cut it out of her life. I admire her discipline. She won’t even use Nyquil.

Warmth, tea, and a book all sound excellent, John. Sending love and hugs to you and Karen.


Happy Thanksgiving to all my US friends! Happy Thursday to all my non-US friends!

Edited: Nov 22, 2017, 8:41pm Top

And a good one to you and yours, for tomorrow, Karen. I am impressed with your baking. Maybe, after the bustle of the holiday is behind you, would you share your recipe for the sweet potato casserole? I love that stuff and have made it only once. But am always looking for a better recipe.

For now, go put your feet up and give yourself a much-deserved break!

Edited: Nov 23, 2017, 7:10am Top

Hi Shelley!

Thank you. I do love to bake. The pies came out nicely, even if I do say so myself. No guarantees, but I'll try to remember to take a picture this evening after they're all out on the counter ready to be eaten!

I don't know why this recipe is called a soufflé, because it doesn't puff up and is just basically a sweet potato casserole. But it's my MiL's and the only way daughter will eat sweet potatoes at Thanksgiving.
Sweet Potato Soufflé

3 cups cooked mashed sweet potatoes
½ cup sugar
½ t salt
2 eggs
2 t vanilla
2 t cinnamon

Cook potatoes til tender. Peel and mash. Add eggs, sugar, salt, vanilla, and cinnamon.Mix well. Pour into casserole dish. (I use a 9’ x 13’ Pyrex baking dish.) Mix topping and spread over top. Bake at 350F for 30 minutes.


1 cup brown sugar
1/3 cup butter, melted
1/3 cup flour
1 cup chopped nuts (I use pecans)

Mix and spread on casserole.
First cup of coffee, a bit of quiet before husband and daughter get up, and then the controlled frenzy begins!

Edited: Nov 23, 2017, 7:11am Top

Morning, Karen. Have a great holiday with the family.

Nov 23, 2017, 7:30am Top

Thanks, Karen! Sounds yummy. I love sweet potatoes

Nov 23, 2017, 9:39am Top

Happy Thanksgiving, Karen! A nice assortment of pies!

We've got the ingredients to the stuffing started, and soon we'll be prepping the bird and getting it into the oven.

Nov 23, 2017, 9:53am Top

>290 msf59: Thanks, Mark! Same to you. Enjoy your day.

>291 jessibud2: You're welcome, Shelley. I love 'em, too. I also like sweet potato fries - I had some last week when daughter and I visited friend Frances then went back to Wilmington for shopping, a meal, and a movie. Yum.

>292 harrygbutler: Hi Harry! Excellent news. Have a lovely day.

My turkey bird will be prepped about 11 to go into the oven at 11:15 to be taken out at 2:30. After that as long as it takes to make the giblet gravy and have husband carve the turkey and etc. then we'll eat.

Earlier than usual, just like last year, because the Dallas game starts at 4:25. Sigh. Ah well, it's husband's Thanksgiving, too. Plus, his friend Geoff is also a serious Cowboys fan, so they have much fun.

Nov 23, 2017, 12:27pm Top

This is a time of year when I as a non-American ponder over what I am thankful for.

I am thankful for this group and its ability to keep me sane during topsy-turvy times.

I am thankful that you are part of this group.

I am thankful for this opportunity to say thank you.

Nov 23, 2017, 12:28pm Top

Nov 23, 2017, 12:45pm Top

On this day of Thanksgiving, I am grateful for many things, one of them being my

Thank you for being so wonderful! : )

Nov 23, 2017, 3:33pm Top

Happy Thanksgiving Karen my dear and glad both you and your daughter loved the cake. I agree with you that it is admirable that she is abstaining on the alcohol, if only others were able to follow her example. Sending love and hugs to you all dear friend.

Nov 24, 2017, 10:29am Top

>294 PaulCranswick: Thank you, dear Paul! Excellent sentiments entirely reciprocated.

>295 nittnut: Thank you, Jenn! I hope yours was wonderful. I’ll have to go check to see if you got away with less than 7 pies!

>296 Berly: Thank you, Berly.

>297 johnsimpson: Thanks, John. Oh yes, we did. I’ll be patient for the brandied version. The cakes are tucked away, so out of sight (mostly) out of mind.

Sending love and hugs to you and Karen.

There were 6 of us yesterday. We had a lovely time over the course of about 7 hours. There was the last minute meal prep with fun frenzy in the kitchen – at one point husband was carving turkey, daughter was mashing potatoes ably aided by friend Diane, I was checking the rolls and supervising Aunt Ann as she continued reducing the turkey drippings so I could make gravy. Only Geoff wasn’t in the midst of it, but he supervised from the sidelines! Here are the results.

After a leisurely meal of about an hour and a half, we adjourned to watch the Dallas Cowboys make fools of themselves. But we had fun chatting and eating pie and drinking coffee. Husband and daughter chatted after the game with Geoff while Aunt Ann, Diane, and I got the dishes done and food distributed/put up. A very nice day.

I had banana cream pie for breakfast, daughter had pumpkin. *smile*

Nov 24, 2017, 10:31am Top

>298 karenmarie: Pie for breakfast is one of the best aspects of the Thanksgiving postlude. Have a terrific Friday, Karen!

Edited: Nov 24, 2017, 10:36am Top

Thanks, Harry!

Daughter and husband are in the living room discussing Harry Potter. I'm finishing up a cup of coffee and visiting a bit here on LT, but will do some reading in a minute to finish up Come, Tell Me How You Live.


Time for a new thread. Give me the first seven messages, then I'll be open for business!

Nov 25, 2017, 10:05am Top

>289 karenmarie: - Karen, how many sweet potatoes will yield the 3 cups of mashed, cooked? I have all the other ingredients in the house but have to go buy the potatoes. I want to try this recipe today!

Group: 75 Books Challenge for 2017

420 members

172,368 messages


This topic is not marked as primarily about any work, author or other topic.




About | Contact | Privacy/Terms | Help/FAQs | Blog | Store | APIs | TinyCat | Legacy Libraries | Early Reviewers | Common Knowledge | 129,000,134 books! | Top bar: Always visible