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The 2019 Nonfiction Challenge Part II: Science & Technology; Innovation & Innovators in February

75 Books Challenge for 2019

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1Chatterbox
Jan 29, 10:01pm Top

Are you all ready for another fun-filled month of non-fiction books? Now that we've finished reading across-genres with the prize-winners category, it's time to turn to a genre-specific one. Go to your bookshelves and TBR lists and hunt out those books about scientific breakthroughs, about great discoveries and innovations and the people responsible for them; about their consequences (intended or unintended...) Throw in a book or two about government policies in this area, and how they have helped or hampered scientific developments (does anyone want to read about Los Alamos and the development of nuclear weapons prior to and during World War II? Here's your chance... But please focus as much on the scientific challenges as on (say) nuclear espionage. But if you're into spies and snooping, there's always the story of (wowza) cybersecurity. Or its flip side, how vulnerable we are to completely losing our privacy thanks to all those technical innovations! Go back to Archimedes if you want; take it into futuristic territory if you choose. Just keep it focused on the theme, and on NON-FICTION!

If you have any questions, as always, post them below or send me a PM. Sometimes the PM may be faster as if I'm traveling or it's later in the month I won't be on here every day, necessarily, and I wouldn't want anyone to feel that their concerns are being overlooked (when really, I'm just busy...)

Happy to see you all back here, and enjoy your February choices!!

2Chatterbox
Edited: Jan 31, 8:31pm Top

What we're reading:






3Chatterbox
Jan 29, 10:02pm Top

The year to come:

Here is what you can look forward to for the rest of the year!

March: True Crime, Misdemeanors and Justice, Past and Present Day: Wanna read about Nixon and Watergate? Or the poisons scandal of Louis XIV's court in 17th century France? The development of criminology? Books like The Suspicions of Mr. Whicher or David Grann's Killers of the Flower Moon all count. Or a bio of Thurgood Marshall, or others who worked or still work to correct injustices.

April: Comfort Reads: Whatever topic makes you feel warm & fuzzy inside. Animals? Cooking? What brings you joy? Music? Long walks? This could cross a number of more traditional challenge categories, and maybe will give us insight into each other...

May: History. In this case, my cutoff date is 1950. A bit arbitrary, but after the end of World War II and after the Berlin Airlift, the birth of the Marshall Plan and the start of the Cold War.

June: The Pictures Have It! Any book that relies on pictures to tell the story, from an illustrated graphic text, to a book of photographs, to an art catalog.

July: Biography & First Person Yarns
(Hopefully, self-explanatory!!)

*August: Raw Materials: Animal, Vegetable, Mineral
So, read a book that starts with animals, vegetables or minerals at its heart. You could read about the human animal -- medical science, how we die. How farm animals are treated. You could read about how we eat and cook (animal & vegetable.) You could read about how the world's natural resources are being developed -- or exploited (the oil industry?) and their impact on the environment (mineral AND vegetable.)

*September: Books by Journalists
As suggested by a member of this group! On ANY topic -- just check to be sure that the author is a journalist -- employed by a paper, writing freelance, past or present.

*October: Other Worlds: From Spiritual to Fantastical
Want to read about heaven (Christian version, Muslim version, etc.) and how to get there? Or reincarnation, Buddhist style? Or simply fantastical other world? (There's a new book either just out or coming soon that is a history of the science fiction novelists who really helped pioneer the genre in the mid-20th century, for instance.) If you find a book that writes about how the future will look -- plagues, environmental catastrophe, the impact of robotics -- that would fit, too. Think "other worlds" that aren't like the one we inhabit and take for granted. I'd even accept dramatically different variants on reality, like living through the Holocaust, under Pol Pot in Cambodia, or in a war zone or as a refugee or illegal immigrant.

November: Creators and Creativity
We've done this one before. Anyone who creates stuff -- preferably arts, since there's an earlier category dedicated to scientific and technological innovation. Dance; music; writing; painting; photography, etc. etc. The act of creation; controversies that ensue; collectors of art, patrons of art, what does creativity mean? (I think Nicholas Delbanco has written on this), etc.

December: I’ve Always Been Curious About…
A wide open category, pretty much. Your favorite category isn't here? Well, find a way to squeeze a book about it into December. Bummed that there isn't a category about the great outdoors? Well, read a book, and say you've always been curious about hiking the Pacific Coast trail, for instance. Or sailing. As long as you can complete the sentence with the topic of the book, you're good to go.

*a new topic for the 2019 edition of this challenge.

4Chatterbox
Edited: Jan 30, 2:04am Top

Some ideas for books that you might find interesting for this month's challenge

A large number of Simon Winchester's books, ranging from Krakatoa, which is a great look at geology, one of his passions, to the new The Perfectionists: How Precision Engineers Created the Modern World.

Ticker: The Quest to Create an Artificial Heart by Mimi Swartz

Inferior: How Science Got Women Wrong-and the New Research That's Rewriting the Story by Angela Saini

Making the Monster: The Science Behind Mary Shelley's Frankenstein by Kathryn Harkup

Astrophysics for People in a Hurry by Neil deGrasse Tyson

Neurotribes: The Legacy of Autism and the Future of Neurodiversity by Steve Silberman

Ada's Algorithm: How Lord Byron's Daughter Ada Lovelace Launched the Digital Age by James Essinger

Chasing Venus: The Race to Measure the Heavens by Andrea Wulf

Longitude by Dava Sobel (also her bio of Galileo and his struggles, Galileo's Daughter and several other of her books, including her tome on Copernicus.)

The Genetic Strand: Exploring a Family History Through DNA by Edward Ball

The Case against Perfection: Ethics in the Age of Genetic Engineering by Michael Sandel

Packing for Mars by Mary Roach (and many other of her books)

The Ghost Map by Steven Johnson (how clever scientifically-minded folks in Victorian London figured out the origins/causes of cholera by mapping an epidemic...)

Seeing in the Dark : How Amateur Astronomers Are Discovering the Wonders of the Universe by Timothy Ferris

The Book Nobody Read: Chasing the Revolutions of Nicolaus Copernicus by Owen Gingerich

Bring Back the King: The New Science of De-extinction by Helen Pilcher

The Lunar Men: Five Friends Whose Curiosity Changed the World by Jenny Uglow

The Age of Wonder: How the Romantic Generation Discovered the Beauty and Terror of Science by Richard Holmes

To Explain the World: The Discovery of Modern Science by Steven Weinberg

The Innovators: How a Group of Hackers, Geniuses, and Geeks Created the Digital Revolution by Walter Isaacson

Dark Territory: The Secret History of Cyber War by Fred Kaplan

Dragnet Nation: A Quest for Privacy, Security, and Freedom in a World of Relentless Surveillance by Julia Angwin

Zucked: Waking Up to the Facebook Catastrophe by Roger McNamee (publication date Feb 5)

The Net Delusion: The Dark Side of Internet Freedom by Evgeny Morozov

The Silicon Boys by David A. Kaplan

Walter Isaacson's bio of Steve Jobs

Why Things Bite Back: Technology and the Revenge of Unintended Consequences by Edward Tenner

Losing the Signal: The Untold Story Behind the Extraordinary Rise and Spectacular Fall of BlackBerry by Jacquie McNish

Bad Blood: Secrets and Lies in a Silicon Valley Startup by John Carreyrou

DarkMarket: Cyberthieves, Cybercops and You by Misha Glenny

Free Market Madness: Why Human Nature is at Odds with Economics--and Why it Matters by Peter Ubel

The Gene by Siddharta Mukherjee

Bring Back the King: The New Science of De-extinction by Helen Pilcher

The Clockwork Universe: Isaac Newton, the Royal Society, and the Birth of the Modern World by Edward Dolnick

Reinventing Knowledge: From Alexandria to the Internet by Ian McNeely

Chopin's Piano: In Search of the Instrument that Transformed Music by Paul Kildea (because innovation can be applied to musical instruments, remember!!)

Videocracy: How YouTube Is Changing the World . . . with Double Rainbows, Singing Foxes, and Other Trends We Can’t Stop Watching by Kevin Allocca

The Art of Language Invention: From Horse-Lords to Dark Elves, The Words Behind World-Building by David Peterson

How We Got to Now: Six Innovations That Made the Modern World by Steven Johnson

The Inventor and the Tycoon: A Gilded Age Murder and the Birth of Moving Pictures by Edward Ball

Future Perfect: The Case For Progress In A Networked Age by Steven Johnson

Map of a Nation: A Biography Of The Ordnance Survey by Rachel Hewitt

The geography of genius : a search for the world's most creative places from ancient Athens to Silicon Valley by Eric Weiner

The Fellowship: Gilbert, Bacon, Harvey, Wren, Newton and the Story of a Scientific Revolution by John Gribbin

The Dawn of Innovation: The First American Industrial Revolution by Charles R. Morris

Turing's Cathedral: The Origins of the Digital Universe by George Dyson

The Most Powerful Idea in the World: A Story of Steam, Industry and Invention by William Rosen

The Industrial Revolutionaries: The Making of the Modern World 1776-1914 by

Army of None: Autonomous Weapons and the Future of War by Paul Scharre

Money Changes Everything: How Finance Made Civilization Possible by William Goetzmann

Empires of Light by Jill Jonnes (about Edison, etc.)

Fifty Inventions That Shaped the Modern Economy by Tim Harford

Don't forget biographies! Marie Curie. Tesla (the man) and Elon Musk (the guy who created Tesla cars and built a giant company.) You can innovate a business model, too...

Biographies of Newton, of Alan Turing, of folks who stared into microscopes to understand how plants behave or the human body works.

5Chatterbox
Edited: Jan 30, 2:06am Top

Some novels to read alongside the non-fiction you're reading here

*Please note that while it's fun to read some novels alongside the non-fiction books we're here to read and chat about, I'd respectfully request that you keep any discussion of them or any reviews to your own threads. What brings us here is the focus on non-fiction, and I don't want the focus to gradually shift. Thanks for understanding! If anyone else wants to set up a parallel thread devoted to related novels each month, where people could meet and chat -- if you all think there's a demand for that as well -- please feel free to do that. It's not something I've got the bandwidth to undertake at this time, and IMHO it might just be too much.

That said, here are the ideas!

Louisa Hall has written some interesting fiction on new technology ideas. Her latest is Trinity, about the Los Alamos project; before that, she had written Speak, about artificial intelligence and communication.

I suppose for a lot of folks, science fiction will fill this category, or even novels with robots.

There is The Wanderers by Meg Howrey, in which astronauts are on a mission to Mars, or Chris Brookmyre's mystery novel set on a space station, Places in the Darkness. You can go even further down the speculative rabbit hole here.

There are historical novels about scientifically-minded people, too.

The Last Days of Night by Graham Moore is about the battle over who would develop and control electric lighting, with Thomas Edison as a main character, and Tesla as the nutty scientist.

Transatlantic by Colum McCann covers the development of wireless, and it's a beautiful literary novel.

The Other Einstein by Marie Benedict -- the POV of a physicist who married a genius innovator

Enchantress of Numbers by Jennifer Chiaverini -- Ada Byron Lovelace is getting a lot more attention these days, and this is an OK biographical novel.

The Overstory by Richard Powers might be an interesting one here, given that it revolves around discoveries that trees communicate with each other.

The Terranauts by T.C. Boyle -- science demands extreme commitments...

State of Wonder by Ann Patchett -- the main character is a scientist exploring...

Unsheltered by Barbara Kingsolver -- looking back in time over a house's history to its former owner, a scientist. I may read this one.

6ronincats
Edited: Jan 29, 11:27pm Top

Well, of the ones you list above, I have copies of Neurotribes, Longitude, and The Gene. Longitude is by far the one that has been longest in my tbr pile, as well as being the shortest AND being on my Kindle, so that's probably what I'll go with.

Just to mention, I really enjoyed The Ghost Map when I read it some years ago.

ETA Screw that choice. Although my Kindle did not show it being read, I got it from the library and read it last May. It will be either The Gene or Neurotribes.

7LizzieD
Edited: Jan 29, 11:37pm Top

Just today I turned to The Horse, the Wheel, and Language: How Bronze-Age Riders from the Eurasian Steppes Shaped the Modern World on my Kindle. I think it fits the challenge, and, always the optimist, I'm going to give it a spin.

8Chatterbox
Jan 30, 12:24am Top

>7 LizzieD: That sounds absolutely fascinating, and I can't wait to hear what you think of it. And where would we be without optimism???

>6 ronincats: I really, really hate discovering that I have read a book -- and apparently have no memory of doing so. I prefer to believe that it's the book's fault and has NOTHING to do with my memory or my age.

10Chatterbox
Jan 30, 2:01am Top

>9 Familyhistorian: Most definitely it will fit, and yet another intriguing title!!

11SandDune
Jan 30, 7:41am Top

>9 Familyhistorian: I have that Epigenetics book too and might read that. Or the Neutotribes one which I also have somewhere. Or maybe both ...

12alcottacre
Jan 30, 8:12am Top

Since biographies are allowed, I am going to read Dr. Mutter's Marvels, which I have heard good things about.

13Crazymamie
Jan 30, 8:27am Top

I have Packing for Mars out from the library, so I'm going with that one.

14jessibud2
Jan 30, 8:58am Top

Just to add to your suggestions for Simon Winchester. His 2 books about the OED, The Professor and the Madman and The Meaning of Everything are both fascinating. And I can also vouch for Isaacson's book about Jobs.

Real life has intruded on my reading this month and I am not yet finished my January selection of The Massey Murder (though if I wait long enough, I can use that title for March, lol). However, if I can manage it, I would like to read another of Charlotte Gray's books for this month, Reluctant Genius, about Alexander Graham Bell. I do like Gray's writing.

15katiekrug
Jan 30, 9:10am Top

I just saw that Simon Winchester's book The Men Who United the States is on sale for Kindle (US) for $2.99.

The blurb: In this New York Times bestseller, the author of The Professor and the Madman reveals how explorers and innovators of all kinds forged a united American nation. “Vivid, valuable… An extraordinary, propulsive tale” (The Wall Street Journal).

16streamsong
Jan 30, 9:27am Top

I'll be listening to Astrophysics for People in a Hurry.

I also need to read last month's PBS/NYT's book club selection, Heart: A History by Sandeep Jauhar.

17countrylife
Jan 30, 11:53am Top

I'll be reading a book I borrowed from my son's shelf: Bill Bryson's A Short History of Nearly Everything. There are several BBs in this thread that I'd love to work in, should time be in my favor for a change.

Of other books mentioned - I also loved Ghost Map, The Professor and the Madman, and The Perfectionists.

18Caroline_McElwee
Jan 30, 12:04pm Top

I'm going to read Life 3.0 by Max Tegmark.

This disappearing photos thing LT is suffering from is frustrating,

19m.belljackson
Edited: Jan 30, 7:00pm Top

>5 Chatterbox:

Hey - I added the fiction MEADOWLAND review to the NF one to be sure we got to 150.

For this month, there's DRINKING WATER by James Salzman and HEY THERE, EARTH DWELLER by MARC ter HORST.

Related fiction would be EYE OF THE WHALE and (brief mention in desert) THE GOLDFINCH.

20Familyhistorian
Jan 30, 1:10pm Top

>11 SandDune: The epigentic book was sitting beside my computer so I read the introduction, Rhian. Sounds very interesting so far.

21Chatterbox
Jan 30, 1:20pm Top

Some more great books here! I think I need to hone my ducking tactics to avoid being peppered with book bullets...

Pls let me know if I missed anything you plan to read. I know some folks are mentioning books that they enjoyed or otherwise drawing attention to specific titles for reasons other than that they plan to read them, but I don't want to miss out on anything due to some assumption on my part.

>19 m.belljackson: Thanks for the additional fiction suggestions. I understand why to append a review, and appreciate the thought (phew, I was SO grateful I didn't have to nudge people across that threshold for January...) but the risk is we'll get caught up discussing a novel (for instance, if I read and really liked Unsheltered by Barbara Kingsolver, which some here have read and others haven't. In a perfect world, it would be great to keep these references to "hey, finished a novel linked to this that I LOVED, and you can find the review on my thread." In the same way that some of us will pop in with non-fiction news that isn't related to the month's theme as things unfold.

Moving on... I think one of my favorite books by Simon Winchester was The Map that Changed the World. It was an amazing look at a branch of science that he clearly loves but doesn't get a lot of broader attention -- geology -- and a great narrative of science and history. He has a knack for dealing well with earth science-type topics -- his books about the two major oceans, for instance.

22SuziQoregon
Jan 30, 1:21pm Top

I'm going to listen to Apollo 8 by Jeffrey Kluger

23Familyhistorian
Jan 30, 3:33pm Top

>21 Chatterbox: I am currently reading Krakatoa and the only previous Winchester that I read was A Crack at the Edge of the World. He delves into geology and plate tectonics in both books and clearly loves the subject. Krakatoa is very interesting and a bit less uncomfortable for me than the other book as I live close to the fault system he writes about in the one about the 1906 earthquake.

24m.belljackson
Jan 30, 7:04pm Top

>14 jessibud2:

To enhance the Winchester books, OED day is celebrated on February 1st!

25quondame
Jan 30, 8:44pm Top

I'm going for Die Erfindung der Hose, at least the English portion in the back - The Invention of Pants, mostly a discussion of a 5300 year old pair of pants found on a mummy.

26Chatterbox
Jan 31, 12:28am Top

>25 quondame: That may win the prize for best title, and quirkiest subject!

27Jackie_K
Jan 31, 6:00am Top

I'm not sure if my choice is entirely suitable, but it was the closest thing I could find to hand (I'm trying to meet the challenge using books already on my TBR rather than buying new ones). It's Tim Peake's Ask an Astronaut - he's the British astronaut who spent 6 months on the ISS in 2016, and this book covers not only the training and trivia about life on board, but also the scientific experiments he was involved in and discussion of the science and technology behind the space station. He was very active while on board (and since coming back to Earth) encouraging science in schools and generally making it more exciting and accessible to the general public in the UK.

28charl08
Edited: Jan 31, 6:35am Top

I think I'm going to try and read one from my shelf: Lunar Men, about a group of early scientists, as I really liked another book the author wrote, The Pinecone.

29alcottacre
Jan 31, 6:45am Top

Wow, there are a ton of good suggestions on this thread! I just wish I had access to all of them.

30SandDune
Jan 31, 7:15am Top

>27 Jackie_K: the British astronaut who spent 6 months on the ISS in 2016 A friend of mine has worked very closely with Tim Peake on his science education work.

31Jackie_K
Jan 31, 9:28am Top

>30 SandDune: Oh how cool! I love how he's made science so accessible.

32bohemima
Jan 31, 12:06pm Top

Ok. I have The Men Who United the States, so that’s on tap for this month.

What about The Man Who Loved China, Suzanne? It seems to fit the bill in that there’s lots s of info about Chinese inventions and innovations, but I’m not quite sure.

As an aside, I can highly recommend Dr. Mutter’s Marvels; if ever a man was a needed innovator, he was. Also recommend The Professor and the Madman, a marvelous if very sad book.

33benitastrnad
Edited: Jan 31, 2:32pm Top

I will be reading/listening to two books on science this month.

1. Merchants of Doubt: How A Handful of Scientists Obscured the Truth on Issues From Tobacco Smoke to Global Warming by Naomi Oreskes and Eric M. Conway
2. Astronaut Wives Club: A True Story by Lily Koppel

I also might get to Searching For Stars on an Island in Maine by Alan Lightman.

I loved the book I read last year for this challenge topic. It was Seeing in the Dark by Timothy Ferris. It was such a wonderful journey into the world of the night sky that it renewed my love of reading about science.

34Chatterbox
Jan 31, 1:36pm Top

>32 bohemima: Well, the subtitle says that it is about a scientist, so I would say that it fits, for that reason alone! :-) (It's so nice when queries are that easy and satisfying to answer...)

Will update images after I meet the next work deadline tonight.

35benitastrnad
Jan 31, 1:53pm Top

For those of you who are adding pictures into threads and postings, I wanted to let you know that I spoke with both Tim Spaulding and Loreanne Nasir about the problems with adding pictures into thread posts. They said that there is lots going on with that. One of the problems is that web sites are trying to stop hot linking. Hot linking is when you post a picture directly from the web site to another web site. Some companies like Amazon don't care, but others do. (Like Disney) As a result many sites are writing code to prevent, or slow down, the uploading of pictures to anywhere. (Do we see doom for Pinterest?) It is sometimes hard to keep up with the code changes, but now that LT is aware that there is a problem they are working on it.

Tim and Loreanne asked that if people have problems they post to the Bug Report thread. That is found in the Librarything Group. Or e-mail Loreanne. Here is her e-mail address.
Loranne Nasir

Make use of this e-mail address as Loranne's job is troubleshooting technical problems.

36alcottacre
Jan 31, 8:41pm Top

>32 bohemima: I second the recommendation of The Professor and the Madman, Gail. I thought it was very good. I am a big Simon Winchester fan, having read several of his books.

37cbl_tn
Jan 31, 8:58pm Top

I will try to read The Disappearing Spoon from my own shelves, and maybe listen to The Dorito Effect.

38cbl_tn
Jan 31, 9:04pm Top

>28 charl08: I will be anxious to hear your thoughts about this one. I recently watched an episode of The Art Detectives on Acorn TV (which I think aired in the UK as Britain's Lost Masterpieces) about Joseph Wright of Derby, whose art was closely associated with the Lunar Society. It was my favorite episode of the 3 series.

39raidergirl3
Jan 31, 9:04pm Top

>37 cbl_tn: I was very impressed with The Dorito Effect!

40mdoris
Jan 31, 10:50pm Top

>37 cbl_tn:, >39 raidergirl3: Yes, we were greatly impressed too with The Dorito Effect. We still refer to it regularly as to how our tastebuds are manipulated with chemicals by the big food companies.

41m.belljackson
Feb 1, 10:18am Top

Chatterbox - see >19 m.belljackson: for more covers.

42Chatterbox
Feb 1, 1:34pm Top

>41 m.belljackson: Sorry, it wasn't clear to me that those were books that you planned to read, as opposed to reading suggestions generally! Shall add them later tonight or tomorrow, when I next add them...

43benitastrnad
Feb 1, 2:48pm Top

Wow! There is lots of stuff in this months reading lists. I am listening to Astronaut Wives Club and the narration is fine. This isn't heavy duty science. It is more about the families. Perhaps more social history than science, but it is interesting how "managed" by NASA the lives of the first astronaut families were.

44nittnut
Edited: Feb 1, 3:31pm Top

I can highly recommend The Gene. Fascinating stuff and Mukherjee manages to make it very readable.

I am still finishing my book from January, but I think I will read Astrophysics for People in a Hurry with Mr. E, because he's interested, and it's probably about the right size book for my life right now.

45Chatterbox
Feb 1, 4:43pm Top

>43 benitastrnad: That kinda doesn't surprise me, given the era and the importance of the "space race" to American society at the time. Everyone wanted squeaky clean families, didn't they? And that was in the time when the FBI made all their agents dress in dark suits and ties and white shirts!

46fuzzi
Feb 1, 7:20pm Top

>35 benitastrnad: as I understand it, hotlinking eats up the host's bandwidth. I upload my photos to LT, for the most part.

I try to use uploaded covers, as the Amazon covers often disappear a few days after linking.

47Chatterbox
Feb 1, 8:37pm Top

>46 fuzzi: I don't think I've had any problems viewing these images, even though I am pulling them from hotlinks. (I'm not going to upload them to my profile and then post... it's enough of a slog as it is... And sometimes using LT covers from the LT page simply doesn't work well. I find Amazon & Goodreads are the best options.) I am wondering whether one's own browser has something to do with it? I went back to covers I put up two years ago, and they are still there/visible. Hmmm....

48cbl_tn
Feb 1, 9:01pm Top

>46 fuzzi: >47 Chatterbox: I can see these images on my laptop (Chrome/Windows 10) but only the first one shows up on my iPad.

49Chatterbox
Feb 2, 1:26am Top

>48 cbl_tn: More techno-weirdness... And that does make me wonder whether it's got something to do with the device, browser, etc. I can see them on both my Apple laptop and my Dell desktop, accessing LT via Chrome on both but Windows 8 on the desktop and some version of ios I assume on the Mac.

50cbl_tn
Feb 2, 7:39am Top

>49 Chatterbox: Can only see the first cover in Safari and Chrome on the iPad, but I can see all of the cover images in Firefox on the iPad.

51Chatterbox
Feb 3, 12:13am Top

Curiouser and curiouser... said Alice to LT.

52GerrysBookshelf
Feb 3, 7:51am Top

I plan on reading Who We Are and How We Got Here: Ancient DNA and the New Science of the Human Past by David Reich.

For those of you with e-readers, both Kindle and Nook have a sale today on science related books including: Darwin Comes to Town, The Military Science of Star Wars, Dark Matter and the Dinosaurs, The Breakthrough about immunotherapy, A Crack in Creation about gene editing, AIQ about artificial intelligence, The Sixth Extinction, Chasing New Horizons and more.

53benitastrnad
Feb 3, 3:45pm Top

#49 & #50
Loranne said that the browser is part of the problem. I am not sure which one or ones are causing the problem, but the browser is part of it. The hot links is also part of it. Some of the image producers are getting really picky about use of their images and are running programs to delete them. I am not sure which companies are doing it, but Tim said that Amazon doesn’t care about the book covers begin pulled into LT. I do think that LT is trying to get members to upload and then link, but I am not going to do that. Takes too much time.

LT folks were really surprised how annoying users ground the complicated way of uploading pictures to be. (That is why it is important to let them know when you are having problems.) Tim said that this would definitely have to go to the top of the queue of work that his programmers need to do. It may get better soon. In the meantime - if you are having trouble put in a bug report. Or better yet - email Loranne. Here is the e-mail address

Loranne@librything.com

54Caroline_McElwee
Feb 4, 5:37am Top

I do tend to upload and link. It has been harder to link to existing locations I've found.

55thornton37814
Feb 4, 9:02am Top

I'm convinced part of the issue is with "https" versus "http" in the image URLs. I've noticed most of the ones not displaying are https. I've right-clicked on the broken image and told it to open in another browser and gotten a privacy error. Then when I change the https to http, it displays. I'm using Chrome so it is one of the browsers with the issue.

56Chatterbox
Feb 4, 9:42am Top

Well, I use Chrome and don't seem to have this problem (at least on this page) except on a few other folks' pages. I think it has tended to be personal photos? In any event, going forward, I'll make every effort to make an image from Amazon or Goodreads (which I do anyway), and if I can't, then to use an http and not a https link.

I think what surprises me is that people seem to be having this issue NOW, repeatedly, whereas I can't remember a cluster of folks experiencing the same glitch consistently for a week or more in the past. At least, not based on comments re the covers posted in this thread... (and my methodology has remained the same as long as I have been doing this...)

57benitastrnad
Edited: Feb 4, 10:15am Top

I think that the problem is that many of the companies with images are regularly running programs to eliminate the hotlinks. That breaks the link and voila! a blank square. Tim said that linking to Amazon or Goodreads is different because they don't care if you use their image. At least not yet. They have not gone to the https links. However, Amazon has upped its rental rates for space on their servers, so ultimately the "cloud" storage on which Librarything depends may cost more. Tim says that Amazon will go to https links in the future - but not yet. And LT is working on finding a fix. As I said, Tim and Loranne were surprised about the number of people having this problem and how annoyed they are about it.

The image thing is troubling. What does this mean for Pinterest and other file sharing sites? People need to get paid for their images, and companies do as well. (That's capitalism.) As always copyright rears its head.

58cbl_tn
Edited: Feb 4, 11:08am Top

>55 thornton37814: Not having a problem with Chrome on a Windows 10 laptop at home, but I do have the problem with Chrome on my Windows 7 workstation at work.

>57 benitastrnad: I spent a couple of days in December cleaning up mixed content errors on my library's Springshare sites (LibGuides and LibAnswers) since they'll be forcing all pages to load via https by the end of March. I was told that http book covers pulled from Syndetics will not be a problem, but that http images from Amazon are currently a problem.

ETA: I can see the book covers in this thread in Chrome on Windows 7 as long as I make sure I load the thread via https.

59Jackie_K
Feb 4, 11:59am Top

I've just finished Ask An Astronaut which is a collection of all the various questions the British astronaut Tim Peake was asked about his mission, and it covers everything from astronaut recruitment, to training, to living on the ISS, and returning to Earth. It includes the obvious question of course (ie, how do you go to the toilet on the ISS?), but even though it is presented in a very accessible and readable way, the main thing that I have been left with having read this is the sheer amazing amount of scientific knowledge that has gone into building, running and maintaining life on the ISS (and space exploration in general). A very good (and not too taxing) read. 4/5.

60charl08
Feb 4, 12:24pm Top

>59 Jackie_K: I've wondered about buying this as a gift for older children - do you think it's accessible enough for that sort of reader to dip into?

61Jackie_K
Feb 4, 1:07pm Top

>60 charl08: Yes, I think so, it would work for high school-age children I would have thought. Some of the science might be a bit much for the younger high school-age kids, but overall I don't think that would matter. A lot of the questions came from schoolchildren initially!

62thornton37814
Feb 4, 2:36pm Top

>58 cbl_tn: Mine is Windows 10. Strange. This thread is less problematic for me than others though.

63benitastrnad
Feb 4, 2:38pm Top

#58
I had problems with all of my blog posts for the library because of the http and https problem. Our tech department couldn't figure out the answer and said that it was a Syndetics problem. I took care of that because as I told our tech department "I know people at Syndetics." I e-mailed Loranne and Tim, and they sent me the answer to the problem. I forwarded it to my tech department and now I have pictures in my blogs again. I was linking the blog post to the library catalog and all the library thumbnails come from Syndetics. It is nice to know people and rest assured - Tim cares about LT.

64LizzieD
Feb 4, 11:31pm Top

I can't comment on tech problems. Even if I had a problem, I couldn't complain.
Instead, I'll just say that I'm really enjoying my entry for Feb., The Horse, the Wheel, and Language. I sort of think a person has to be a language nerd to enjoy it, but here's an extra bonus:
Sheep were first raised for food for 1,000 or so years (I'm remembering 4,000, but that sounds too long to me). It was not until they got into colder climates that sheep's wool became long enough for them to be bred for length so that the wool could be spun. For a long time they just felted the sheepy undercoats, but eventually began to spin and weave. This is important for Proto-Indo-European because PIE has roots for woven wool. They can use this as a suggestion of PIE's earliest date because scientists compare the age of sheep bones where found..... More bones of older sheep indicates that they were allowed to age for their wool rather than be slaughtered young for food. Therefore, PIE was a language by at least 4,000 BCE because this is the time when old bones appeared.
I have to say that I love this stuff.

65quondame
Feb 5, 12:25am Top

>64 LizzieD: Cool. I'm a fiber geek so the later use of sheep for wool isn't news to me, but I love when technology is properly seen to include everything people make, including rope, baskets and clothing.

66alcottacre
Feb 9, 3:06pm Top

I think that the book I am currently reading, The Big Ones, would qualify for this challenge. It is about historical earthquakes and what scientists through the years have learned about the nature of earthquakes and how technology has evolved to try and combat the effects.

67banjo123
Feb 9, 3:41pm Top

So does any book on science work, or does it need to be on science/technology? I have A Primate's Memoir on tap.

68quondame
Feb 9, 4:03pm Top

>66 alcottacre: One of our neighbors studied earthquakes and always seemed to move into an area just before big ones, Tehachpi, Denali for instance. He named his daughter Denali. The goat he (temporarily) tethered on his front lawn was named Madame Gnu, and he chiseled E=mc² in the petroglyphs north of the base.

69drneutron
Edited: Feb 9, 4:20pm Top

I’m finishing up Newton and the Counterfeiter, dealing mainly with Newton’s stint as Warden of the Mint for Britain and his battling the destabilizing effect of commodity market manipulation and counterfeit coin trade on the currency. His innovations in coinage and banking play heavily in the story.

70benitastrnad
Edited: Feb 10, 3:05pm Top

I made a weekend trip to Birmingham and so listened to the rest of Astronaut Wives Club by Lily Koppel. I enjoyed listening to this work of nonfiction and thought that the narrator did a good job. It was the perfect book for listening to on the daily commute because it didn't demand my thinking attention while reading. By that I mean that it is what I call history lite.

This was social history of the Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo space programs told from the point-of-view of the wives. I did not realize how managed the lives of the families were until reading this book. Everyone knows about the management of the astronauts, but the NASA management of the families is something that is not talked about as much. This book changes that and tells part of hidden women's history.

Even though I think that books like this are important I found the coverage of the lives and topics relevant to this topic to be uneven.

71Chatterbox
Feb 10, 5:01pm Top

>67 banjo123: Absolutely, go for it.

Sorry to have been AWOL. McKesson keeps delivering spoiled doses of my new migraine drug, Aimovig, to me, meaning it's now been seven weeks since my last dose, and my migraines are back in full force. The good news is that clearly, the drug is helpful? The second attempt at a replacement will arrive on Tuesday. Sigh.

72jessibud2
Feb 10, 5:26pm Top

>71 Chatterbox: - Oh, I have been reading about this drug. I will be asking my doctor about it next time I go. Have you actually had any you have tried yet or is this something that is a problem? How do you know it's spoiled, or is that something the pharmacy is discovering before it reaches you? A concern, for sure. I currently take Zomig (which sounds like it might be in the same drug family but maybe not, I really don't know)

73Chatterbox
Feb 10, 6:15pm Top

>72 jessibud2: It arrives in a refrigerated container with icepacks around it, and a little temperature indicator card. If that shows red or pink, it's supposedly been overheated and shouldn't be taken.

Zomig isn't the same thing. Aimovig is the first to be approved in an entirely new range of anti-migraine drugs known as CGRP inhibitors. CGRP is a kind of amino acid (oversimplifying) that researchers determined can actually TRIGGER migraines. When they finally discovered why -- that it gets into the trigeminovascular system, located outside the blood-brain barrier, and affects the blood vessels to trigger the release of compounds into the trigeminal nerve, etc. When researchers discovered that migraines begin in the brain stem and that the way the trigeminal nerve is structured/functions facilitates them from developing, and made the link to CGRP, they started work on developing medications that would inhibit production of CGRP altogether. Hence, Aimovig. There are some others in late-stage trials that have yet to be approved, but it's a completely new thing, working in a radically different way. None of this is perfectly understood yet, but it's getting better. And it's a whole lot better than any other medication I've tried in terms of effectiveness and side effects (of which I've had none.) But it's pricey (right now I'm on a special program to make it feasible to take, financially -- if I had to pay, I would be out of luck) and now I see, it's also a wee bit unstable. Hmm.

Definitely ask your doc about it if you have more than a certain amount of migraine days/month and other drugs aren't working well for you. Those are the criteria, as it is costly and not a first-line treatment. For me, after 40 years, it's kind of a last-ditch thing.

74jessibud2
Feb 10, 6:23pm Top

>73 Chatterbox: - Thanks for that explanation. Actually, my Zomig works fairly well for me, most of the time. I can sometimes go weeks without a migraine but other times I can have one that lasts days without relief (I am currently on day 3 as we speak). Thankfully, not as often as some people I know (you might be one!). I have a friend, though, who would definitely be interested. She currently takes … ack, I am blanking on the name of her drug at the moment but she isn't allowed to take them too often. I can take up to 4 Zomig a day but have never taken more than 2. I can also take something called Ketorolac - I can take one of those right after a Zomig and it really helps. That, and an ice pack over my eyes and forehead, lying down in a dark room and/or a hot shower with the stream beating down on the back of my head and neck. And sips of Coca-Cola.

Whatever works!

75cbl_tn
Feb 11, 8:40am Top

>71 Chatterbox: I'm so sorry to hear about the delivery issues. I can't begin to imagine how frustrating it must be to have the medication you need in hand but in an unusable condition. Fingers crossed that the next delivery arrives in good shape.

I think I'm going to change my planned read for this month to The Family Tree Guide to DNA Testing and Genetic Genealogy.

76Chatterbox
Feb 12, 1:41pm Top

The next delivery arrived this morning, in good shape, and I have taken it!! Fingers and toes crossed...

>74 jessibud2: Yes, thank heavens for ice packs. Although one of the resident felines, Sir Fergus the Fat, has decided that my gel ice packs contain Greenie treats. Why, I don't know. So he attacks any that I leave lying around and disembowels them, leaving me, him and all kinds of furniture items covered in blue goo. Sigh.

I have finished my first read for this challenge, Zucked by Roger McNamee. The author is a friend and longtime source of mine, as well as an early investor in Facebook. And he's a technology junkie, who always has been fascinated by the evolution of the Internet and the various businesses that it has enabled to exist. But in early 2016, he began to realize that the quest by Facebook to build a business without "friction" and to maximize revenues, via the use of data harvesting and marketing, conflicted with all kinds of democratic fundamentals, not to mention FB's own statements of principles with respect to "users" -- a phrase McNamee takes issue with. And while he is one of the privileged handful to have had easy access to Zuckerberg and Sheryl Sandberg (he was an early mentor of Zuckerberg's), that access dried up the second he became critical or questioning of the business model. Which is when he got very curious indeed about how the technology really was being applied, the underlying algorithms, and the way that screen-based technologies, Google, FB, Twitter, etc. have developed technologies to monetize us, sometimes without our knowledge and in ways we don't even fully understand. When that monetization also involves manipulation, well, that crosses all kinds of barriers... Clearly, Roger wrote this rapidly, and there is repetition of key arguments throughout; stylistically, it's imperfect. But it's a Silicon Valley insider's view of what has gone wrong, which makes these insights particularly valuable (it's a great book to have read, as I did, only a few weeks after Weapons of Math Destruction, which also tackles the question of the misuse of quantitative models in myriad ways, from lending to prison sentencing.) I'm giving it 4.35 stars. Before you walk away from Facebook in disgust -- read it. And the issues it explores will explain why one of the presidential candidates among the Democrats who most interests me so far is Amy Klobuchar, for whom data protection and Internet privacy are big issues (along with climate change and other more predictable Democratic platform elements...)

77Chatterbox
Feb 15, 10:17am Top

So, I'm wrestling with what to read next. I picked up a copy of The Sixth Extinction by Elizabeth Kolbert -- Kindle sale price! -- with part of a very nice Amazon gift certificate that I got for my birthday, and I also would like to wrestle with The Clockwork Universe by Edward Dolnick, about Isaac Newton, which takes the form of an audiobook. About Newton, I've only read Newton and the Counterfeiter, which I found a bit plodding and also a bit "heavy", but have heard good things about Dolnick's book in terms of accessibility. Since so much of modern science seems to flow from Newton's discoveries.... Then, shall have to read the Carreyrou book before month's end (it must go back to the Athenaeum's library.) That's more of a story about how a group of people tried to develop new technologies and settled for trying to convince people that they HAD developed new technologies and scientific methodologies. Which is intriguing, as I think it speaks to our obsession with the "new new thing" and the difficulty in getting to a point where you understand complex technology.

78raidergirl3
Feb 15, 10:37am Top

>77 Chatterbox: Since so much of modern science seems to flow from Newton's discoveries.... nearly everything! (HS physics teacher and big fan of Newton)

Bad Blood was so good! in a very horrific way

79katiekrug
Feb 15, 10:49am Top

For what it's worth, I thought The Sixth Extinction was excellent. Fascinating, insightful and accessible.

80alcottacre
Feb 15, 11:15am Top

>68 quondame: I love the name of the goat, ha! I think studying earthquakes would be a fascinating field of study.

81Chatterbox
Feb 16, 3:17pm Top

>79 katiekrug: Thanks for the nudge!!

>78 raidergirl3: I confess I'm slightly intimidated by Newton, never having even taken a physics course. These days, I think, they offer physics and other science courses for people who aren't scientific by inclination -- like science for liberal arts types. I probably would have had fun in those...

82drneutron
Feb 16, 7:57pm Top

>78 raidergirl3:, >81 Chatterbox: Well, Newton fans should check out Newton and the Counterfeiter. One of his challenges later in life was chasing counterfeiters as Warden of the Mint - and he was surprisingly good at it!

83Chatterbox
Feb 18, 2:58pm Top

>82 drneutron: Yes, I read that, waaaay back in 2010 or 2011. The subject was enjoying but I found the writing ponderous, if I recall correctly. Overall, it didn't have the impact I thought it might. But still -- Newton fighting counterfeiting?!?! It was a big problem back then, however (and a capital crime), with people literally "clipping" coins. One good argument in favor of paper currency...

84benitastrnad
Feb 18, 3:37pm Top

I finished reading Merchants of Doubt: How a Handful of Scientists Obscured the Truth on Issues From Tobacco Smoke to Global Warming by Naomi Oreskes and all I have to say - Wow! The scientific community and the rest of us had better take lessons from the tobacco industry on how to create, spread, and perpetuate fake news.

I chose this book to read for this challenge because I am one of those citizens of the world who is incensed by the fact that our democracy is under attack from our own people as well as outside governments, and with the election of 2016 I wondered where this virulent hatred of experts and academics came from. I started a small themed reading of my own, and this title was one of the books I had on that list.

This book was an eye opener. It is true that a small group of scientists influenced public policy over a period of 50 years. The same three names pop up over and over whenever questions are raised about the accuracy of the science that has to do with a select number of topics. The topics are tobacco and second-hand smoke, acid rain, nuclear winter, air pollution, and global warming. I am not one to believe in conspiracy theories, but this might make me a believer. These same three scientists spent 50 years on various boards and held various political appointments where they used their scientific credentials to cast doubt on other scientists work as well as on the scientists themselves. They and the companies that they worked for, as well as several conservative think tanks, are responsible for much of the "doubt" that has been cast on the veracity of scientific fact. The fact is that there was and is no "doubt" about the science that tobacco and second-hand smoke cause lung cancer. There never was and the tobacco companies knew that. There is no "doubt" about acid rain causing changes to the plants and animals in the path of the chemicals carried downstream winds cause all sorts of diseases and mutations because it is changing our water supply. The science about nuclear winter was sound, and personal attacks on Carl Sagan couldn't change that, and in fact is now the accepted theory for why the dinosaurs died out. The science about global warming and the ozone layer is sound. Always has been. Even from the beginning. Modern software programs are only proving the conclusions arrived at through sound science about global warming done as far back as the 1950's.

The book is not written by scientists. It is written by two historians. Their specialty is the history of science.

This is a scary book. It is not easy to read. It is not easy narrative non-fiction. The author warns the reader that in order to protect themselves they had to footnote everything. Indeed, almost every sentence in parts of the book carries a footnote with it. If you want easy to read narrative non-fiction this book is not for you. If you want the facts this book presents them. They will probably scare you enough to make you not trust anything you read anywhere.

I think this is an important book for those of us in Academe. It validates the scientific method and peer review. It does not let the media get away unscathed. In fact, the author's believe that the lack of education of journalists covering scientific matters and the lack of cooperation between political and scientific journalists results in a grave misunderstanding of science and scientific research. The fact that three scientists held undue sway over the space where science and public policy intersect is troubling. That they did so for more than fifty years without the scientific community calling them on their conduct is gross negligence. For that Academe is to blame.

85raidergirl3
Feb 18, 4:11pm Top

>82 drneutron: I'm sure I read a fictional account of Newton fighting the counterfeiters, working at the Tower of London. It must be Dark Matter but I don't have it listed here on LT, so probably a long time ago. But now I'm wondering if I actually read it or maybe just read about it, and think I have?

>81 Chatterbox: Many years ago, our grade eleven physics was taught as a Conceptual Physics course, so, very little math or calculations. This was based on a textbook by Paul Hewitt, and I'm sure there are videos on youtube of Hewitt's lectures. He does such a great job explaining basic concepts that I still show some of his videos to my classes. There is nothing fancy - just him up lecturing and explaining.

86quondame
Feb 18, 7:05pm Top

>85 raidergirl3: Newton at the Mint was an element in Neil Stephenson's Baroque Cycle.

87drneutron
Feb 18, 8:13pm Top

>85 raidergirl3: Dark Matter is on my wishlist!

88Chatterbox
Feb 19, 2:01am Top

>84 benitastrnad: Adding that to my list...

>85 raidergirl3: GREAT suggestion, many many thanks....

89RBeffa
Feb 20, 12:13pm Top

I'm reading a book by Simon Winchester, A Crack in the Edge of the World: America and the Great California Earthquake of 1906. I'm not terribly far into it but I am enjoying it a lot. So far it is only nominally about the 1906 earthquake. What this seems to really be about is the birth of modern geology in the late 60's and early 70's as well as a lot more. I was surprised and pleased to find about a 7 page sequence on Eldridgge Moores. When I was in college at UC Davis in the early 70's I took a geology course on what was then a new theory, plate tectonics, and it was given by James Valentine and Eldridge Moores. It turned out to be one of the best classes I ever took. Both men were excellent teachers and it was exciting. Moores has since become a giant in the field. He just died a few months ago and I was saddened when I read that.

90Chatterbox
Feb 20, 12:35pm Top

Started reading the Elizabeth Kolbert book, The Sixth Extinction, last night and it's grabbed my attention in a chilling way. Gulp. Who knew that I would find Panamanian frogs and their fate so compelling??

91katiekrug
Feb 20, 12:41pm Top

>90 Chatterbox: - Such a good book.

92SuziQoregon
Yesterday, 2:27pm Top

I'm loving listening to Apollo 8.

The other night on my way home from work I was at the part where the ship went behind the moon and out of communication for the first time. I hadn't realized that they also had to make a crucial burn maneuver at that same time. Even though I obviously knew all had went well I was still tense and hearing the story from the viewpoint of mission control. I sat in my driveway and continued listening until I got to the point where they were back in communication with mission control so I could relax. I'm already telling The Hubster that this is his next audiobook and I won't take no for an answer.

93streamsong
Yesterday, 2:38pm Top

I finished listening to Astrophysics for People in a Hurry authored and read by Neil deGrasse Tyson. I loved it. He does a great job making the hard-to-comprehend comprehendible. And, it's a very short book, if someone is still looking for a book for this challenge. ;)

However, I think I need a hard copy of this book for my library instead of the audio. I may have understood concepts while listening, but I'm not sure how long I will remember them. It also would have been nice to have been able to flip backward and review previous sections. Usually I like audios for books that I might otherwise bog down within; for this one I think a hard copy would have been better.

94SuziQoregon
Yesterday, 2:55pm Top

>93 streamsong: I totally agree about that book. I loved listening to it but immediately checked out the ebook from the library so I could review things I had heard.

95benitastrnad
Yesterday, 3:41pm Top

#92
I read Rocket Men by Robert Kurson last year and liked it. (Actually I listened to it.) Like you I found the story interesting and was surprised by the drama in the story. So many things that could have gone wrong and didn't. That was why I was interested in reading Astronaut Wives Club. I wanted a little more information about these people. I would like to read more about the mission control guys as well. People like Chris Craft, etc.

96SuziQoregon
Yesterday, 3:47pm Top

>95 benitastrnad: So do I. I do have another audiobook that I have and plan to read A Man on the Moon: The Voyages of the Apollo Astronauts by Michael Chaikin. It's obviously broader scoped than Apollo 8 but I'm looking forward to it. I read another book by Robert Kurson years ago and liked it. I might see about getting Rocket Men. I foresee a binge of space related books in my future.

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