SandDune’s Retirement Reads - Part 1

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SandDune’s Retirement Reads - Part 1

1SandDune
Edited: Dec 28, 2020, 1:25 pm

Welcome to my first thread of 2021, and to my tenth year doing the 75 Book Challenge. I'm a 59 year old accountant and, after spending most of my career in the City of London, I'm now the Finance Manager of a local charity which provides support to children and adults with learning disabilities. But 2021 will be a year of change as I’ll be retiring on 22nd January, and my husband (aka Mr SandDune) will be working part-time from January onwards with a view to retiring completely in the summer. We live about thirty miles north of London although retirement may take us elsewhere in the U.K. Our 20 year old son (aka J) is now at the University of Lancaster in the North of England studying History, and enjoying it as well as can be expected, given the current circumstances. There's also our 8 year old Staffordshire Bull Terrier, Daisy, who tends to feature prominently in my threads.

I'm originally from Wales rather than England, so I do have an interest in all things Welsh (although I can't speak the language - at least only a few words) and I tend to get huffy if people call me English rather than Welsh! I read mainly literary fiction, classics, science-fiction and fantasy, but I have been trying (and enjoying) some crime fiction. As far as non-fiction goes I’m interested in a number of topics in particular books about the environment and nature.

In 2020 I struggled with my reading (for the obvious reasons) and read a lot fewer books than normal, and more of those were a fairly easy read.

All my family are avid readers. J has inherited a love of reading science-fiction and fantasy from me and a love of reading history from Mr SandDune so our books are increasingly shared. I read hardbacks, paperbacks, on kindle and listen to audio books particularly when driving or walking the dog. Apart from reading I love travelling, eating out, and going to the theatre, most of which have been curtailed in 2020 again for the obvious reasons. I'm getting more and more concerned about environmental issues and I have been quite involved in campaigning on climate change.

During 2020 I got a lot of pleasure from looking at the birds in my garden, so I thought for 2021 I’d start my threads with pictures of some of the garden birds that are regular visitors. First up, the goldfinch: one of my favourites as they are so pretty. We don’t get these every day, but we do see them a lot more than we used to, as the goldfinch is a species that is increasing in numbers. According to the R.S.P.B it’s thought to possibly be because of the greater variety and quality of bird food being put out in bird feeders these days.

Goldfinch

From Thomas Bewick’s A History of British Birds:



And in real life:

2SandDune
Edited: Dec 28, 2020, 3:27 pm

Five star books from past years:

2020:
H is for Hawk Helen MacDonald
The Curse of Chalion Lois McMaster Bujold

2019:
The Salt Path Raynor Winn
Wilding Isabella Tree
Mothering Sunday Graham Swift

2018:
City of Bohane Kevin Barry
Educated: A Memoir Tara Westover
Frederica Georgette Heyer

2017:
1984 George Orwell
Pride and Prejudice Jane Austen
Persuasion Jane Austen
The Outrun Amy Liptrot
Lincoln in the Bardo George Saunders
Just William Richmal Crompton

2016:
The Shepherd’s Life James Rebanks
Gilead Marilynne Robinson

2015:
The Spire William Golding
Girl in the Dark: A Memoir Anna Lyndsey
The Remains of the Day Kazuo Ishiguro

2014:
The Lowland Jhumpa Lahiri
The Wall Marlen Haushofer
Heart of Darkness Joseph Conrad
Selected Stories Katherine Mansfield
Framley Parsonage Anthony Trollope

2013:
The Garden of Evening Mists Tan Twan Eng
Tooth and Claw Jo Walton
Barchester Towers Anthony Trollope
Northanger Abbey Jane Austen
The Ocean at the End of the Lane Neil Gaiman
Suite Francaise Irene Nemirovsky
Salvage the Bones Jesmyn Ward

2012:
Among Others Jo Walton
The Arrival Shaun Tan
The Tale of Peter Rabbit Beatrix Potter
The Uncommon Reader Alan Bennett
Railsea China Mieville

3SandDune
Edited: Jan 24, 2021, 9:12 am

Books read in 2021:

1. Piranesi Susanna Clarke *****
2. Back to Nature: How to Love Life —and Save It Chris Packham & Megan McCubbin ****
3. The Magician’s Nephew C.S. Lewis *****
4. Lolly Willowes Sylvia Townsend Warner ***1/2
5. Lowborn: Growing Up, Getting Away and Returning to Britain’s Poorest Towns Kerry Hudson ***
6. Windsor Knot S.J. Bennett **
7. The Inheritors William Golding ****

Films watched in 2021:

1. Clueless ****
2. When Harry Met Sally ***1/2
3. Bringing Up Baby ****
4. Patrick (Belgium) (Flemish/French) ***1/2

5SandDune
Edited: Feb 2, 2021, 3:22 am

Plans for 2021:

I belong to a RL (well, via Zoom these days) book club and we meet monthly (except January & August).

February: The Windsor Knot Sophia Bennett
March: The Accidental Ali Smith
April Night Waking Sarah Moss
May Hamnet Maggie O’Farrell
June Motherwell: A Girlhood Deborah Orr
July Wilding: The Return of Nature to a British Farm Isabella Tree
September
October
November

We will also be reading the Costa novel shortlist over the first couple of months of the year:

Piranesi Susanna Clarke
Peace Talks Tim Finch
The Less Dead Denise Mina
The Mermaid of Black Conch Monique Roffey

6PaulCranswick
Dec 28, 2020, 1:29 pm

Welcome back, Rhian. It wouldn't be the same without you and Mr. SandDune and J.

7Crazymamie
Dec 28, 2020, 1:40 pm

Dropping a star, Rhian. This is also my tenth year here. Hoping to do a better job keeping up this year.

8SandDune
Dec 28, 2020, 3:32 pm

>6 PaulCranswick: It wouldn’t be the same without you either, Paul!

>7 Crazymamie: Well being as I only have officially 3 weeks of work left then hopefully I should have more time to keep up to date with the threads!

9drneutron
Dec 28, 2020, 4:05 pm

Welcome back! Happy retirement!

10johnsimpson
Dec 28, 2020, 4:28 pm

Hi Rhian, i have starred you again my dear and look forward to visiting throughout the year.

11AMQS
Dec 28, 2020, 6:34 pm

Oooooooh, retirement is less than a month away! So excited for you.

I love your birds up top. I really enjoy watching ours, too. I am a dedicated bird feeder kind of person. We're hoping to work on our yard in 2021 to make it more bird and nature-friendly (right now it is extremely mud and dirt friendly, as we have somehow managed to kill off all of our grass).

Cheers to you in 2021!

12thornton37814
Dec 28, 2020, 9:33 pm

Welcome back. Hope you have a great year of reading.

13SandDune
Dec 29, 2020, 3:53 am

>9 drneutron: Thanks Jim, I’m looking forward to it!

>10 johnsimpson: I’ll be following you too John. Happy New Year!

>11 AMQS: We’ve always had a reasonable number of birds in the garden as we have a fair bit of cover for them, and we also have a pond which they love. But the number and variety has definitely gone up since I started feeding them. I was always a little bit worried about feeding them when we had cats, as the cats seemed to regard the bird table as some sort of buffet, not that the cats that we’ve had were ever great birders.

>12 thornton37814: Welcome Lori! Same to you.

14katiekrug
Dec 29, 2020, 12:28 pm

Happy new year, and happy (almost) retirement, Rhian!

15SandDune
Dec 29, 2020, 1:12 pm

>14 katiekrug: It won’t quite be the retirement I was expecting, at least initially - no travel for a start - but I’m looking forward to it nonetheless.

16SandDune
Edited: Dec 30, 2020, 7:03 am

We started having a sort out of things that are in the loft yesterday, and I found this: my favourite soft toy from when I was a young child (rather unimaginatively called ‘Cuddly’):



We also started sorting out old photographs: family photos that Mr SandDune had inherited from his father and our own photos mainly from the late 1990s. We got absolutely nowhere with Mr SandDune’s family photos: he did not accept my argument that there is no point keeping photos that are blurred, very faded and where you don’t know who the people are in them anyway! We did decide that he will go through them with his sister and they will come to a joint decision as to what is kept. But being as he virtually never talks to his sister, and he has seen her only twice in the last twelve years (both funerals), I rather think that they will probably go back in the loft indefinitely!

We had rather more success with labelling our own photos. We got on rather better once we realised that the date printed on the back was a year out for quite a few of them, so we could stop trying to allocate them to the wrong holiday. There’s some of me looking intrepid on the Appalachian trail (well not very, and only for two miles), snaps from when I worked in Bermuda, and holidays in Greece, Ireland and on Orkney, but the most interesting ones were of Jordan which we visited in 1997. I had to spend some time googling pictures of Jordanian historical monuments to make sure that we labelled everything correctly. One of the ones that I’m still unsure about is possibly of a desert castle near to Amman, which is a shame as I have very fond memories of that day. Because of its proximity to the airport you had to go through two military checkpoints to get to it, which I assume put people off. And so it was just Mr SandDune and me, and an old Bedouin man, who was the castle guide, with (we assumed) his two young grandchildren. Despite him not speaking a word of English and us not speaking a word of Arabic, he managed to give us a surprisingly successful guided tour and then gave us mint tea in his tiny house next to the castle.

17Ameise1
Dec 30, 2020, 8:31 am

Congrats on your shiny new thread, Rhian. I love the garden birds theme. I'm a little jealous that you can already retire. I still have 4½ years to wait. When is the UK retirement age? In Switzerland it is 64 years for women and 65 years for men.
After a 'crazy' year for all of us, I hope that in 2021 I will find more time to visit your thread.

18SandDune
Dec 30, 2020, 9:28 am

>17 Ameise1: There isn’t really an official retirement age any more, but I will get my State pension when I am 67. But I have a good final salary pension from when I worked in the City which kicks in when I am 60, so I’ll be taking that a couple of months early. And Mr SandDune’s pension starts when he is 60 as well because he has been in teaching a long time (for younger teachers it doesn't start until 65). So we are quite lucky.

19Ameise1
Dec 30, 2020, 9:33 am

Ah yes, that sounds great. I understand everyone who wants to retire earlier. Let's see, maybe I'll stop a little earlier than planned. My husband definitely wants to retire at 62, ergo still 2½ years.

20Caroline_McElwee
Dec 30, 2020, 9:33 am

>16 SandDune: I love cuddly, Rhian.

How pleasant to revisit old trips and holidays at year end too. I've never been to Jordan. My main lockdown activity was making photo collages of holidays over the past decade, having them printed and albuming them up. I've really enjoyed looking at the albums.

21SandDune
Dec 30, 2020, 10:43 am

>19 Ameise1: We were originally planning to retire around 62 as well. But I’m just tired of my job, and the whole COVID-19 thing has made me re-evaluate my priorities. And Mr SandDune’s health scare has made him more inclined to retire early as well.

>20 Caroline_McElwee: Jordan was one of our favourite countries to visit: such a lot of interesting ancient historical sites. Not just the well known ones such as Petra and Jerash but lots of smaller sites as well that were well worth visiting. And some wonderful castles (I’m very fond of a good castle). The people were very friendly as well: we had problems with our hire car on the second day, and within 5 minutes we had accumulated a little group of at least 5 or 6 men who were all competitively determined to sort the problem out.

22cushlareads
Dec 30, 2020, 4:23 pm

Hi Rhian - happy new year from down here in NZ! (Well nearly - it's New Year's Eve already).

I've been gone from LT for ages so had missed that you are retiring really soon. That's exciting, even with Covid! Looking forward to keeping up with you on here a bit better this year.

23SandDune
Dec 30, 2020, 4:45 pm

>22 cushlareads: Happy New Year Cushla! Yes the retirement is a fairly recent decision - I decided finally in the early autumn. I wasn’t enjoying my job and I realised that it would work financially, so I thought, ‘Why not?’.

24The_Hibernator
Dec 30, 2020, 5:01 pm

Good luck with your pictures Rhian. I am currently working a gigantic scrapbooking project, so I know how much hard work can be put into sorting pictures.

And good luck with your reading!

25SandDune
Dec 31, 2020, 4:08 am

>24 The_Hibernator: That’s what we need to do - some sort of photo book / scrapbook type thing. At various points in my life I’ve put photos in albums, but the late 1990s was not one of them.

26DianaNL
Dec 31, 2020, 7:18 am

Best wishes for a better 2021!

27Ameise1
Dec 31, 2020, 7:48 am

I wish you a Happy New Year. May it be better than the old one.


28PawsforThought
Dec 31, 2020, 8:51 am

Hi Rhian, good to see your thread up and running. How exciting that 2021 will mean retirement for both you and MrSandDune! And a possible move? I look forward to reading about it, as well as your reading, of course.

29SandDune
Dec 31, 2020, 9:07 am

Well, no fireworks tonight, but here are the London New Year’s Eve Fireworks from two years ago, taken from the balcony of my sister’s flat:

Happy New Year!

30lauralkeet
Dec 31, 2020, 12:38 pm

Hi Rhian, I'm just out visiting today and thought I'd stop by and wish you a happy new year. I highly recommend retirement as soon as one can possibly swing it, so I'm very happy for you and MrSandDune. I look forward to reading about this next stage in your lives.

31SandDune
Dec 31, 2020, 2:57 pm

>30 lauralkeet: At the moment I’m wondering why I decided on 22nd January for my retirement start, rather than 31st December. There was a reason: so that I could have time off over Christmas, without having to effectively pay those days back, as I would then have taken days I hadn’t earned. But being as my Mum didn’t come to stay (and we’re in lockdown anyway), in retrospect I could have worked between Christmas and New Year and started from 1st January! Oh well!

32EBT1002
Dec 31, 2020, 4:35 pm

Hello Rhian and Happy New Year! I am also planning to retire in 2021, probably in August. I'm a wee bit older than you but still retiring early and feeling so lucky to be able to do so!

>31 SandDune: Makes total sense to me.

33FAMeulstee
Dec 31, 2020, 6:40 pm

Happy reading in 2021, Rhian!

34PaulCranswick
Jan 1, 2021, 1:47 am



And keep up with my friends here, Rhian. Have a great 2021.

35quondame
Jan 1, 2021, 2:11 am

Happy new year!

36Berly
Jan 1, 2021, 3:57 am

Happy New Year!! And 22 days and counting 'till the big R! Wishing you a wonderful 2021.

37SandDune
Jan 1, 2021, 4:45 am

>26 DianaNL: >27 Ameise1: >33 FAMeulstee: >34 PaulCranswick: >35 quondame: >36 Berly: Thanks for the New Year wishes everyone!

>28 PawsforThought: >32 EBT1002: I’m looking forward to more reading, more crafting, more dog walking at the moment. Simple things. Maybe I’ll finally learn how to make pastry. When things settle down I hope there’ll be more travelling and more theatre visits as well. We have ideas for some extended touring around Scotland and Scandinavia.

38charl08
Jan 1, 2021, 5:28 am

New thread wishes, Rhian. Your plans for retirement sound busy, whether travelling or not. I am looking forward to being able to get out via public transport again for leisure.

39cbl_tn
Jan 1, 2021, 10:07 am

Happy New Year, Rhian! Good luck with the photo sorting. That's always a looong process for me because each one sends me down a rabbit hole.

40MickyFine
Jan 1, 2021, 11:56 am

Happy New Year, Rhian! Hoping your last few weeks of work pass quickly and that retirement is everything you hope.

41The_Hibernator
Jan 1, 2021, 12:36 pm

Happy new year Rhian!

42AMQS
Jan 1, 2021, 1:52 pm

21 days left! I imagine they'll seem endless from your point of view, but WOW!! I'm so excited for you (and jealous).

43SandDune
Jan 1, 2021, 2:55 pm

>38 charl08: I’ll be very happy to be able to go on public transport again, especially into London.

>39 cbl_tn: Well we spent about 20 minutes trying to decide where in Greece some photos were taken. We knew it must be Greece as that’s where we’d gone for our holidays in the summer of 98. We eventually worked out that it was Madrid, where I’d gone on a work trip ...

>40 MickyFine: >41 The_Hibernator: >42 AMQS: Thanks, Happy New Year everyone.

44lyzard
Jan 1, 2021, 6:19 pm

Hi, Rhian, welcome back! Love your birds, keep 'em coming. :)

45karenmarie
Jan 1, 2021, 6:27 pm

Hi Rhian, and Happy New Year!

>1 SandDune: I absolutely love the drawing and photo of the Goldfinch. So much more vivid than our American Goldfinches. I’m already looking forward to your bird choices for future threads.

>8 SandDune: So glad that you’re on the final countdown to retirement. I just know you’ll love it.

46AnneDC
Jan 1, 2021, 6:30 pm

Happy 2021 and happy impending retirement!
I had to laugh at We got absolutely nowhere with Mr SandDune’s family photos: he did not accept my argument that there is no point keeping photos that are blurred, very faded and where you don’t know who the people are in them anyway! I have that same argument with myself--my mother left family photos going back to prior generations, mostly unlabeled, and there's virtually no one left living who can possibly tell us who the people are. And yet I can't convince myself to pitch them. Maybe my kids will.

47ronincats
Jan 2, 2021, 12:49 pm

Dropping off my and wishing you the best of new years in 2021!

48SandDune
Jan 2, 2021, 1:29 pm

>44 lyzard: I’ve certainly got a few birds lined up! I’m not very good at identifying ones that don’t come in the garden though! I suppose I’ve got to start somewhere.

>45 karenmarie: Goldfinches are very pretty birds - and they frequently arrive in a little flock which is nice.

>46 AnneDC: I can see that obviously he needs to keep ones of sentimental value. But for instance he has numerous photos of his father in various sporting teams (his father was a good sportsman) and he wants to keep every single one, even though several of them are virtually identical to others. I’m trying to persuade him that it would be better to have a manageable number of photos that he actually looks at (say in an album or scrapbook) than hundreds that are in the loft.

49sibylline
Edited: Jan 2, 2021, 1:38 pm

Stopping by! Must go find a pic of an American Goldfinch for you -- quite different! We had an unusual number (lots) last spring/summer/fall competing with our chickadees at the "little bird" feeder.



The females are quite similar only less bright. When they arrive in spring they are very scruffy-looking and it takes a couple of weeks for them to get this bright again.

And congrats on your upcoming retirement!

50mahsdad
Jan 2, 2021, 2:43 pm

Happy New Year Rhian!

51SandDune
Jan 3, 2021, 4:09 am

>49 sibylline: Well they’re a lot more “gold” than ours are! Ours only have a tiny bit. It’s interesting how many British and North American birds have the same name for what are completely different birds. Possibly a slight lack of imagination by the original colonists. Or maybe a lack of interest in birds (unless they were edible of course)?

>90 Sakerfalcon: Happy New Year to you Jeff!

52SandDune
Jan 3, 2021, 4:17 am

Well, a wonderful book for my first read of 2021: Piranesi by Susanna Clarke. A five star rating, without a doubt (and looking at the reviews I’m not the only person who thinks so). The Costa Book Awards Category winners are announced tomorrow and I will be so disappointed if it doesn’t win Best Novel. Come to think of it, I’ll be very disappointed if it doesn’t win the overall Costa Book of the Year award. I find it difficult to imagine that there will be a better book among the contenders. Review to follow.

53charl08
Jan 3, 2021, 4:52 am

>52 SandDune: Well that's a good start! The Costa prize has had some great books on their lists - look forward to hearing about the new one.

54CDVicarage
Jan 3, 2021, 5:59 am

>52 SandDune: That's high up in my TBR pile anyway but I think it can go up more!

55SandDune
Edited: Jan 3, 2021, 11:09 am

1. Piranesi Susanna Clarke *****



Piranesi lives in the House. The House is the World and the World is the House, and as a scientist he is determined to explore and record as much of the World as he can:
‘To this end I have travelled as far as the Nine-Hundred-and-Sixtieth Hall to the West, the Eight-Hundred-and-Ninetieth Hall to the North and the Seven-Hundred-and Sixty-Eighth Hall to the South. I have climbed up to the Upper Halls where Clouds move in slow Procession and Statues appear suddenly out to the Mists. I have explored the Drowned Halls where the Dark Waters are carpeted with white water lilies. I have seen the Derelict Halls of the East where Ceilings, Floors — sometimes even Walls! — have collapsed and the dimness is split by shafts of grey Light.

In all these places I have stood in Doorways and looked ahead. I have never seen any indication that the World was coming to an End, but only the regular progression of Halls and Passageways into the Far Distance.’

Piranesi knows that at least fifteen people have existed in the world. There is himself and the Other (who are both alive), and then there are the thirteen dead, whose skeletal remains Piranesi tends with offerings of water lilies and water and food. As he goes about the House, he records all that he discovers in his meticulously kept journals, of which there are now ten. Piranesi never forgets anything about the House, but it is clear that there are some things which he has forgotten. Why, for instance, did he decide to label his first two journals ‘December 2011 to June 2012’ and ‘June 2012 to November 2012’? Such an aesthetically unpleasing system! His current naming convention is much more sensible: his last completed journal is labelled ‘Sixteenth Day of the Tenth Month in the Year I travelled to the Nine-Hundred-and-Sixtieth Western Hall, to the Fourth Day of the Fifth Month in the Year the Albatross came to the South-Western Hall.’ And why does the Other call him Piranesi at all, when he is almost certain that that is not his name?

As the Other begins to warn Piranesi about another person who may exist in the Halls, a ‘sixteenth person’, he is forced to question more and more about his World. And the reader, looking in from a very different perspective, also questions more and more about the World, but the questions asked (and the answers arrived at) are rarely the same.

This is a truly wonderful book.

56Caroline_McElwee
Jan 3, 2021, 6:34 am

>52 SandDune: >55 SandDune: I loved this novel too Rhian. I'll keep my fingers crossed for a win.

57The_Hibernator
Jan 3, 2021, 6:56 am

>55 SandDune: That sounds very interesting.

58msf59
Jan 3, 2021, 7:35 am

Happy New Year, Rhian! Happy New Thread. Have a safe and healthy 2021 and keep enjoying those books.

59Sakerfalcon
Jan 3, 2021, 9:29 am

Happy new year Rhian! I hope it will be a good one for you in books and in life. I'm glad to see that you enjoyed Piranesi so much as it is on my TBR pile.

And I am also a bird lover, so look forward to your posts about them this year!

60drneutron
Jan 3, 2021, 10:38 am

>55 SandDune: loved that one too!

61Crazymamie
Edited: Jan 3, 2021, 10:45 am

>55 SandDune: This is already on my List, or you would have gotten me with that review, Rhian. If you posted that, I will add my thumb.

*back to add that your touchstone goes to the wrong book. And I added my thumb to your review.

62BLBera
Jan 3, 2021, 11:10 am

Piranesi sounds wonderful, Rhian. I'll add it to my list. I haven't heard much about it although I know it has been on a few "best of" lists.

63SandDune
Edited: Jan 3, 2021, 12:55 pm

>56 Caroline_McElwee: >57 The_Hibernator: >59 Sakerfalcon: >60 drneutron: >61 Crazymamie: >62 BLBera: I really can’t praise Piranesi highly enough. I just loved it!

>59 Sakerfalcon: I really don’t know very much about birds, but want to find out more. Twenty years or so ago (before my son was born), Mr SandDune and myself started getting interested in bird watching, but having a baby, and then a toddler, around was not conducive to being quiet and still and watching the birds, so it came to nothing. But this year watching the birds in the garden has given me a lot of pleasure.

>61 Crazymamie: I keep fixing the touchstones, but whenever I tweak something they revert back to the original. Should be finally fixed now.

64brenzi
Jan 3, 2021, 3:35 pm

>55 SandDune: I have that one on my list to read but your review for it is wonderful Rhian. Happy New Year and happy retirement. I waited until I was 63 and have always wondered why.

65Whisper1
Jan 3, 2021, 3:38 pm

Happy Almost Retirement! I retired two years ago after 36 years of teaching and advising at a local college in Bethlehem, PA. Now, I spend lots of time reading and redecorating my house.

I hope you enjoy retirement as much as I do!

66humouress
Jan 3, 2021, 4:05 pm

Happy New Year and happy new thread Rhian! The lead-up to retirement must be exciting! I'll look for you on the GBBO ;0)

67cbl_tn
Jan 3, 2021, 6:10 pm

Great to see your reading year off to such a good start!

68EBT1002
Jan 3, 2021, 7:00 pm

>55 SandDune: What an intriguing review. I don't think of that kind of work as up my alley but it sounds so good. So I might give it a try.

I'm also looking forward to more reading. I don't do much in the way of crafting but I really want to take some kind of art lessons: drawing or pottery. I did some pot throwing while in grad school and have wanted to get back to it.

69richardderus
Jan 3, 2021, 7:53 pm

>52 SandDune:, >55 SandDune: I can't feature anything beating Piranesi for the Costa Book of the Year, either, Rhian. Just too much a tour de force to think it could be pipped at the post.

And a happy retirement for you and Mr SandDune! Off to Western Wales for the long haul?

70SandDune
Edited: Jan 4, 2021, 3:09 am

>64 brenzi: >65 Whisper1: My father put retirement off until 67. He did attempt to retire at 66 but his replacement was not a success and it didn’t take very much persuasion to get him to stay until a new replacement arrived. He loved his job (he was the manager of a very large holiday complex) and was nervous about retirement, but once he was retired he loved that too. He always said later that he never understood how he had time to go to work.

Whereas I’m not enjoying my job at the moment. My boss (who to be fair has many good qualities) is too much of a control freak to ever be a good fit for me. And he doesn’t seem to understand the range of things that Finance needs to be involved in. The number of times I’ve torn my hair out over the last year because something has been done without discussion with Finance, which has then turned out to have major financial or tax implications that have to be sorted out in arrears, and which would have been so much easier to deal with in advance.

>65 Whisper1: Hopefully, I don’t think I’ll spend too much time redecorating. We discovered early on that neither myself or Mr SandDune enjoy decorating (or are any good at it). Part of our plan in moving is to move to a cheaper area (not too difficult as we live in an area of high house prices at the moment) and free up some capital which will enable us to get someone else to do that!

71sirfurboy
Jan 4, 2021, 6:15 am

Just dropping my star here. Happy new year / Blwyddyn newydd dda.

72SandDune
Jan 4, 2021, 7:12 am

>71Blwyddyn newydd dda i chi! Is that right? My Welsh isn’t very good - although I can usually pronounce it fairly correctly!

73lauralkeet
Jan 4, 2021, 7:55 am

>70 SandDune: Rhian, like you being fed up led to retiring early/younger-than-usual. My boss was someone I had admired early in my career but as he rose to power he became a despot and I hated working for him. Also during this time a very successful and ambitious colleague, just a year older than me, had retired early and then died of a heart attack not long after. And then my parents passed away within a few months of each other, and I found it really difficult to get motivated about day-to-day work, much less my career. Realizing I could just leave and do something else with my time was quite liberating. The first days & weeks are weird, because there are no meetings, no structure, etc. but I predict you'll settle into that just fine.

74MickyFine
Jan 4, 2021, 10:24 am

Glad you enjoyed Piranesi, Rhian. It's a strange little book but it was lovely read for me as well.

75sirfurboy
Jan 4, 2021, 12:10 pm

>72 SandDune: Yep that was perfect. Diolch :)

76SandDune
Jan 4, 2021, 2:20 pm

>66 humouress: I’m not sure that there will be too much baking going on! Maybe I’ll learn to make pastry properly. My mother was a wonderful pastry maker, but mine falls apart usually. I always thought it was something I would learn to do when I was a little more ‘grown-up’. Well, you can’t get more grown up than being retired!

>67 cbl_tn: Thanks Carrie!

>68 EBT1002: I would like to do some drawing, which I did quite a bit of as a teenager. My father took up painting on retirement and loved it!

>69 richardderus: I don’t think West Wales (Mr SandDune thinks it’s the back of beyond as a place to live although he does like visiting). But South Wales is a possibility, or the North of England. It’s so difficult to make plans though, with COVID. If it wasn’t for COVID we’d have probably gone on a few reconnaissance trips to look at potential areas, but of course we can’t do that. But I doubt we’ll be moving anywhere before 2022 at the earliest.

>73 lauralkeet: My boss has been marvellous in the COVID crisis, I’ll give him that. But he’s not good at motivating his immediate subordinates. All my career I’ve prided myself on being a go-to person as regards systems and I’ve always wanted to continue learning how things work. But if I go to him with a systems problem (he’s got an I.T. background) he takes it away from me to deal with himself rather than empowering me to do it. So I’m frustrated because I’m not learning new things, and the task doesn’t get done anyway because he doesn’t really have time. Or it gets done badly because he doesn’t understand what’s needed as well as he thinks he does.

>74 MickyFine: I’m thinking I should maybe get around to reading Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell as I liked Piranesi so much. It’s been sitting on my bookcase for ever, but it’s length has always put me off.

77SandDune
Jan 4, 2021, 2:35 pm

Daisy has been a bit under the weather these last few days. She was sick on Tuesday night and she has been up and down ever since, intermittently not wanting her food and a couple of evenings seeming in some discomfort. So we took her to the vets yesterday. The vet couldn’t find anything obviously wrong, but thought it might be being caused by her arthritis medicine which apparently can irritate their stomach. So she has changed her medicine and we will see how we go. She does seem much better today, and she is showing much more interest in everything edible!

Mr SandDune was very pleased with the vet (who apparently he used to teach about 12 years ago) as she said that her getting into Veterinary College was largely due to his excellent teaching in History getting her the top grade! She also said Daisy was a lovely dog, and very ‘stoical’. I’m not sure about Daisy’s stoicism myself, as whenever I take her to the vet she tries to hide under the table. But the vets are operating a closed door policy at the moment and without us there I suspect she might be just resigned to her fate.

78richardderus
Jan 4, 2021, 2:48 pm

Welp. The Mermaid of Black Conch has pipped Piranesi. I haven't read it, but it seems a strange choice.

I'm hopeful your COVID regime will prove to be more helpful than *just* frustrating.

79Crazymamie
Jan 4, 2021, 4:22 pm

Hoping the new medicine does the trick for Daisy. And I love how you tell a story- so lovely about the vet praising your husband's teaching. He must have been so touched. "I’m not sure about Daisy’s stoicism myself..." This made me laugh!

80lauralkeet
Jan 4, 2021, 5:11 pm

Poor sweet Daisy! I hope she's right as rain after the medication swap. Our vet is handling visits in a similar fashion. I'd rather be there, but I also trust them and they are great about calling for a phone chat while the pet is still in the exam, so any questions or additional items can be addressed.

81Whisper1
Jan 4, 2021, 5:15 pm

I'm sending all good wishes for Daisy's recovering. It sounds as though you have a great vet.

82SandDune
Jan 5, 2021, 3:03 am

>78 richardderus: I was disappointed about this. I’ve read Monique Roffey’s White Woman on a Green Bicycle (which was shortlisted for the Orange Prize) and while I thought that was a good read and much more nuanced than I was originally expecting, it wasn’t exceptional. So The Mermaid of Black Conch appeals, but I’d be surprised if is better than Piranesi. I’ll probably be reading it sometime in February.

We have gone back into a full lockdown as of today.We’ll see how that goes ...

83SandDune
Jan 5, 2021, 3:13 am

>79 Crazymamie: Well she’s eaten her breakfast for the last two days, so that’s a good sign. And she’s been playing with her toys again...

Mr SandDune has had some lovely tributes from his pupils over the years. I get the impression that he’s pretty good as a teacher. Schools are back into teaching virtually again from today, until at least mid-February, which I am very relieved about. And so is he, but he was also disappointed as he very much likes the personal interaction with people that his job entails.

84scaifea
Jan 5, 2021, 8:38 am

I loved Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell - I hope you do, too, if you get round to it. I need to get to Piranesi soon.

Adding my get well wishes for Daisy to the pile!

85jnwelch
Jan 5, 2021, 1:06 pm

Happy New Year, Rhian!

Wasn't Piranesi wonderful? I'm glad you loved it as much as I did.

86cbl_tn
Jan 5, 2021, 6:49 pm

>83 SandDune: Playing with toys is a good sign! My little guy is a fussy eater so I can't always go by his appetite to gauge how he feels. The toy thing is a better indicator for me.

87AMQS
Jan 5, 2021, 8:46 pm

Glad Daisy is on the mend. We had to tinker with Whistler's meds and his food lately - he stopped eating altogether and is now on a kidney diet. It seems to help. He is now quite old for a greyhound but we want to help him as much as we can.

88SandDune
Jan 6, 2021, 2:15 pm

>80 lauralkeet: >81 Whisper1: >86 cbl_tn: >87 AMQS: Daisy has seemed much better over the last few days. She’s back to her normal greedy self, and she’s not so restless. With Daisy, you can always tell if she’s not well by whether she eats. She will usually eat pretty much everything apart from salad vegetables, and she will keep eating as long as the food keeps coming! Left to her own devices she would be massively overweight - as it is she’s looking quite svelte these days - well as svelte as a staffie can ever look.

>81 Whisper1: Unfortunately, the vet that Daisy saw on Sunday was only a locum and she was actually moving half way across the country the next day! But it is a good practice, and we are always very happy with the care that she gets.

>84 scaifea: It’s purely the length of Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell that puts me off. We saw the TV adaptation of it some years ago and really enjoyed that.

>87 AMQS: It’s so sad when they get old isn’t it? But at least there’s so much more medication available for dogs these days. And it makes such a difference - Daisy is so much more agile since she’s been on her arthritis medicine.

89lauralkeet
Jan 6, 2021, 5:35 pm

I'm glad to hear that Daisy is back to normal!

90Sakerfalcon
Jan 7, 2021, 5:15 am

It's good to hear that Daisy is on the mend!

91CDVicarage
Jan 7, 2021, 7:42 am

>88 SandDune: I read Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell well before watching the TV adaptation and nearly gave up. After struggling through the first few chapters it suddenly took off for me and I whizzed through the rest. The TV version was true to the book but left some bits out.

92scaifea
Edited: Jan 7, 2021, 2:54 pm

>88 SandDune: It *is* a chonky book, for sure. I listened to it, so it didn't seem too long. And we still haven't watched the show, even though I really want to - I just keep forgetting about it!

93karenmarie
Jan 7, 2021, 10:48 am

Hi Rhian!

>76 SandDune: Maybe I’ll learn to make pastry properly. My mother was a wonderful pastry maker, but mine falls apart usually. I always thought it was something I would learn to do when I was a little more ‘grown-up’. Well, you can’t get more grown up than being retired! Cracks me up.

I'm glad to hear that changing Daisy's medication seems to have fixed her right up.

94The_Hibernator
Jan 7, 2021, 11:49 am

Were the schools out from even virtual teaching? That seems a bit overkill, since (in theory) people don't have to be in contact with each other. In February, our kids are going back to school full time. I'm a little wary, but I don't guess we'll go ahead and try it out. I'm half-way expecting a teacher's strike. And I'm half-way expecting them to have to close the school because of cases. The nurse is super-cautious there, as we discovered when she made everyone in the house check for COVID when there was a fever going around our house and 3 people were tested and came back negative. It seems like it's unlikely I will have symptomless COVID when the people with fevers did not have it. *shrug

95SandDune
Jan 7, 2021, 5:35 pm

2. Back to Nature: How to Love Life — and save it Chris Packham & Megan McCubbin ****



Chris Packham is the much loved BBC TV presenter of Springwatch. Well, perhaps not universally loved as his recent campaigning against the issuing of licences to shoot birds has led to death threats and a selection of dead animals being nailed to his garden gate. During the lock-down in the U.K. in the second quarter of 2020, as the country as a whole developed a new found interest in the natural world, he presented the ‘Self-Isolating Bird-Club’ on YouTube with his step-daughter Megan McCubbin, a zoologist in her own right.

Back to Nature is a call to arms to all those people who started to think about the natural world during lockdown, as well as those who were already interested in conservation. A polemic against everything that Chris feels in wrong with the natural world in the U.K., with poor management of National Parks, industrialisation of farming, persecution of raptors, and managed grouse moors all very high up the list. And it’s also an argument for what we should be doing instead: from large scale rewilding to managing our small garden plots for wildlife. While it does touch on the wider picture, the focus is very much on conservation in the U.K. and I’m not sure it would appeal to a wider audience. There is a fair amount of detail at times (and consequently at times it can get a little dry), but Chris’s enthusiasm wins through. While Chris Packham has provided the main body of the work, Megan McCubbin has written a number of interesting vignettes on aspects of the natural world, to remind the reader of what it is that they should be saving.

This is one of those books that has left me with a very large list of ‘things I ought to be doing’ from joining the R.S.P.B., to writing to my M.P. about a large number of topics, to having another go at persuading Mr SandDune to cut a hole in the garden gate for any passing hedgehogs. I’ll be referring back to a number of the sections to follow up on some of the topics in more detail.

I would also recommend Chris Packam’s memoir Fingers in the Sparkle Jar (which I read a few years ago) about growing up as a nature obsessed child with undiagnosed Aspergers.

96PawsforThought
Jan 7, 2021, 5:49 pm

>95 SandDune: Ooh, that sounds like a wonderful book. I might end up reading that, even if it doesn't really apply to my life and the nature around me. If nothing else, it's a good reminder that I ought to check out a few of the similarly themed books I know have been published in Sweden in the past few years.
I have a list of things I'd like to do too, although i checked off two items last spring when we made an insect hotel for our summer house, and I downloaded the Swedish Species database app so I can flag any sighting of invasive species.

97lauralkeet
Edited: Jan 8, 2021, 7:28 am

>95 SandDune: Excellent review, Rhian. My husband and I are big fans of Chris Packham and, more recently, Megan McCubbin as we got to know her through the 2020 Springwatch series. Around that time we also stumbled across the SIBC videos which are now also part of our regular viewing. They make a great team and she is so at ease in front of the camera I suspect she has a bright future ahead of her.

Packham has spoken openly about his Asperger's and we watched an interview or documentary or something once in which he was featured, which gave me an entirely new appreciation for people with Asperger's. I might have to seek out that memoir.

98SandDune
Jan 8, 2021, 11:10 am

>89 lauralkeet: >90 Sakerfalcon: >93 karenmarie: Daisy had a bit of a relapse yesterday when she didn’t want her breakfast again, but it didn’t last long and generally she’s still seeming better.

>91 CDVicarage: >92 scaifea: I must read it. I’ve got a hardback copy, as I wanted to read it when it first came out (but didn’t), and so it’s also very heavy. Maybe I need to buy a kindle copy as well and read that and just leave the hardback looking pretty on the shelf.

>96 PawsforThought: I think Sweden was mentioned briefly, as a country that has more tree cover than Britain, but then pretty much every where has more tree cover than Britain. (On a side note my sister once nearly moved to the United States with her family, when my brother-in-law was promoted by his employers, a U.S. company based somewhere in Connecticut. My sister thought that there were just too many trees and it just didn’t seem right. So they never moved in the end). I’ve been trying to improve our garden for nature. Last summer I planted quite a lot of bee-friendly plants and had a no-mow area in the garden, which seemed to increase the number of bees and butterflies that we saw. And I stopped some of MrSandDune’s over-enthusiastic (in my opinion) pruning plans, in particular our honeysuckle bush which is home to lots of sparrows.

>97 lauralkeet: Megan McCubbin is clearly a natural! I thought her and Chris Packham made such a good team, with such a good relationship between them. I was quite keen on the poodles as well!

99SandDune
Jan 8, 2021, 11:49 am

Mr SandDune is doing online marking. He’s teaching a year 7 (age 11-12) geography class and they are doing an exercise on planning for new houses in the local area. One of the questions was for them to comment on water sources near their proposed housing, and one of the responses was that there were a few pubs nearby .... Not quite what he was after.

100SandDune
Edited: Jan 8, 2021, 12:29 pm

>94 The_Hibernator: Schools here were doing virtual teaching from 23 March until the start of the summer term at beginning of July. Then, it was in-person teaching for the autumn term up until Christmas and it was supposed to continue in person from 18th January. But now we are in lockdown again until at least 22nd February and so teaching has gone back to virtual again.

101PawsforThought
Jan 8, 2021, 12:53 pm

>68 EBT1002: Well, we are about 70% woodland, and the percentage is higher up north (where I am). That's more land covered by wood than there is land in the UK at all.
How on earth could someone think there were too many trees in Connecticut?
I want to do a no-mow lawn or even a no-lawn yard.
We had to postpone a planned felling of two trees in our summerhouse last spring because there were birds roosting there.
And part of why I'm sad we didn't get an apple harvest this year is because that meant no visits from the roe deer in the area.

102Caroline_McElwee
Jan 8, 2021, 12:54 pm

>95 SandDune: I do have Fingers in the Sparkle Jar Rhian, I'll nudge it up.

103katiekrug
Jan 8, 2021, 2:06 pm

>99 SandDune: - This made me chuckle.

104MickyFine
Jan 8, 2021, 4:40 pm

>99 SandDune: That's a good giggle.

105BLBera
Jan 8, 2021, 8:43 pm

>99 SandDune: Ah, students! Love it.

Great comments on the Packham book, Rhian. I'll add them to my list.

I'm glad Daisy seems to be on the mend.

106LovingLit
Jan 8, 2021, 9:20 pm

>2 SandDune: what a great idea to post your faves from the past few years. I might have to pinch that idea :)

>95 SandDune: what a fab looking book! I will have to keep an eye out for it, although I suspect it is Britain-specific (in terms of distribution).

107elkiedee
Jan 8, 2021, 10:24 pm

Which Selected Stories by Katherine Mansfield did you read?

108SandDune
Edited: Jan 9, 2021, 4:17 am

>101 PawsforThought: How on earth could someone think there were too many trees in Connecticut? Well, I’ve just looked it up and Connecticut has 55% tree cover. If you come from England (10% tree cover) or Wales (14% tree cover) that is a lot of trees! Apparently the natural ecosystem of a large part of Wales (i.e. minus the sheep) is temperate rainforest. I’d so like to see some of that restored.

>102 Caroline_McElwee: He clearly had a difficult childhood, but it’s a rewarding and well-written memoir.

>103 katiekrug: >104 MickyFine: >105 BLBera: It is funny isn’t it?

109PawsforThought
Jan 9, 2021, 6:06 am

>101 PawsforThought: Ah, that's admittedly more than I thought, but there are so many towns, especially for such a small state. Admittedly, I'm very biased when it comes to this matter!
Temperate rainforest, really? It would be amazing if that could be restored.

110SandDune
Edited: Jan 9, 2021, 6:58 am

>109 PawsforThought: Temperate rainforest is a thing, and there are little bits left, but very few. It’s very mossy ...



https://www.woodlandtrust.org.uk/trees-woods-and-wildlife/habitats/temperate-rai...

111SandDune
Edited: Jan 14, 2021, 3:22 pm

3. The Magician’s Nephew C.S.Lewis *****



In nineteenth century London, Digory and his dying mother come to live with his aunt and uncle... an uncle who Digory at first believes to be mad, but who he soon discovers to be a magician (of sorts), and a very unscrupulous one at that. When his friend Polly is sent out of this World into an unknown place by his uncle’s experiments, Digory has no choice but to follow to bring her back. But Digory and Polly bring back far more than they bargained for: the evil Queen Jadis who had destroyed her own world of Charn, and who quickly causes chaos on the streets of London. And the children’s attempt to return her to Charn does not quite go according to plan ...

When I was a child I loved C.S. Lewis’s Narnia books above pretty much all others, and of all those books probably my favourite was The Magician’s Nephew. The story tells what is effectively a creation myth for the land of Narnia, but it’s more than half way through before Narnia is even thought of, and the sections in Charn and London in the first half are equally enjoyable. It’s quite dark at times (there is no doubt that the Queen Jadis is truly evil and will sacrifice everything and everyone to get her own way) and it also has very amusing sections:

The talking animals of Narnia, led by the Elephant try to decide whether Uncle Andrew is an animal or a tree:
“What do most of us think? Is it an animal or something of the tree kind?”
“Tree! Tree!” said a dozen voices.
“Very Well,” said the Elephant. “Then, if it’s a tree it wants to be planted. We must dig a hole.”
The two Moles settled that part of the business pretty quickly. There was some dispute as to which way up Uncle Andrew ought to be put into the hole, and he had a very narrow escape from being put in head foremost. Several animals said his legs must be his branches and therefore the grey, fluffy thing (they meant his head) must be his root. But then others said that the forked end of him was muddier and that it spread out more as roots ought to do. So finally he was planted right way up. When they had patted down the earth it came above his knees.
“It looks dreadfully withered,” said the Donkey.
“Of course it wants some watering, “ said the Elephant.

On rereading this I would have to give it five stars, if only to reflect the pleasure that it gave me as a child. But really it was absolutely a joy to reread now, so the rating is fully justified.

112sibylline
Jan 10, 2021, 1:09 pm

I got Piranesi for Christmas! Looking forward to it.

Glad Daisy is bouncing back -- and how nice to have a vet with a personal connection.

Packham sounds like a good fellow -- I love the idea of each person tending the bit of land they have, or have access to --

Parts of Vermont aren't too far off from being temperate rainforest. We have places that look exactly like that, moss covered, damp, frondy from May to October. Of course it is all covered in snow now, but that keeps everything insulated.

113SandDune
Jan 10, 2021, 5:08 pm

>112 sibylline: Daisy is quite enjoying lockdown. The only way that Jacob can see his girlfriend is to go for a walk with her every day (we are allowed to exercise with one other person but not allowed to socialise otherwise) so Daisy is getting lots of long walks.

A quiet weekend. Friday night was film night which we do weekly - ‘Bringing Up Baby’ with Katherine Hepburn and Cary Grant which was my choice. We have film night every week and take it in turns to pick the film. Then on Saturday night we got a Thai take-away which was very nice and made a change from cooking. And this afternoon we played Pandemic, in which we defeated the pandemic for once. Here’s hoping we can defeat the real one. Such an exciting life we lead, but it’s actually been quite pleasant.

114AMQS
Jan 10, 2021, 9:44 pm

Hi Rhian, I would love a reread of the Narnia series - I have loved them all since childhood, though none can approach the magic of The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe for me.

>99 SandDune: That made me laugh. Water is such a huge topic here, and we've had periods of severe drought (and horrible fires). I think CO students would have answered differently:)

115MickyFine
Jan 11, 2021, 11:38 am

>113 SandDune: I watched Bringing Up Baby this weekend too! Hope you got as many laughs out of it as I did. I find laughter is extra important these days.

116SandDune
Jan 11, 2021, 1:06 pm

>114 AMQS: To be honest the ‘water source’ question is a bit of a strange one, as wherever houses are built locally they are just going to be connected to the water main. They’re not going to be getting any water out of a lake or river. But Mr SandDune doesn’t usually teach Geography - he’s just picked up the additional class to compensate for him not working at a senior level any more - so he was just going with the original lesson plan.

>115 MickyFine: We did enjoy it. We’ve been doing film night on and off throughout the pandemic. The rule is that each person picks their own film and there is no veto from the others, and we are actually seeing some great films because of it. Much more varied than we would have chosen by a group decision. I’ve decided I’m going to record the films we watch this year. So far it’s Clueless, When Harry Met Sally, and Bringing Up Baby.

117MickyFine
Jan 11, 2021, 7:01 pm

>116 SandDune: All good movie picks in my books. :)

118Familyhistorian
Jan 14, 2021, 12:58 am

>108 SandDune: Funny what you get used to for tree cover. I remember visiting Scotland and wondering where the trees were and feeling much more at home when I got back to BC. So I looked it up and British Columbia has 57% tree cover.

You must be getting excited now that your retirement is almost here, Rhian!

119SandDune
Edited: Jan 14, 2021, 3:19 am

Pleased to hear yesterday that my mother has got the first dose of her COVID vacuum. I was a bit worried how far she would be expected to travel to receive it as that would be a problem for her, but it was done at locally and luckily the phone call offering the vaccine came when her cleaner was there, and she was able to take her. And I was also pleased with news this morning that people have about 94% protection against getting symptomatic COVID if they have had it in the last 5 months (or 75% protection against symptomatic COVID). The person who goes out most frequently in our house is Jacob (although he is pretty careful I think), and he had COVID back in October, so it’s good to see that he has some protection.

I’ve been doing a lot of handover to my replacement at work. Unfortunately, after only about 3 weeks in the job she seems to already have developed a lot of the frustrations that I have experienced over the last couple of years. I am starting to have doubts as whether she will stay in position.

120SandDune
Edited: Jan 14, 2021, 3:28 am

>118 Familyhistorian: Naturally Scotland would also be pretty much covered with forest apart from on the tops of the mountains, Caledonian forest dominated by Scots pines. There are quite a few rewinding projects at the moment to restore some of this.

I have the same slightly uneasy feeling when confronted with large forests - the idea that you could get lost in a forest and not find your way out again is quite unnerving. I’m not sure that any forests would be big enough to get lost in in the U.K. for any length of time. At least I’ve never encountered one.

121BLBera
Jan 14, 2021, 1:26 pm

Great news about your mom, Rhian. How many days of work left? You must be in the single digits?

122SandDune
Jan 14, 2021, 2:05 pm

>121 BLBera: Six days to go!

123SandDune
Edited: Jan 14, 2021, 3:32 pm

4. Lolly Willowes Sylvia Townsend Warner ***1/2



Laura Willowes (or Lolly as she is now called by all her relatives) has lived at Lady Place in Somerset all her life, but on her fathers’s death it is decided by her relatives that she would be much better going to live with her brother Henry and his wife Caroline in London:

‘Lolly ought to come to them. London would be a nice change for her. She would meet nice people, and in London would have a better chance of marrying. Lolly was twenty-eight. She would have to make haste if she were going to find a husband before she was thirty.’

But Lolly is never interested in any of the men that are presented to her (or them her). The First World War comes and goes, and her nieces get married and have children of their own, and still Lolly remains in the house of her brother and sister in law, never living the life that she wants to live, or even knowing what life that might be. But at long last a chance encounter in a greengrocer’s shop sends her suddenly to live alone in the village of Great Mop in the Chilterns, much to the consternation of all. And after years of stultifying conventionality ministering to the needs of others, Lolly (or Laura, as she is now able to revert to her proper name) is finally able to focus on herself.

Written in 1926, this is a thoughtful book which looks at the options open to an unmarried woman in the first decades of the twentieth century and which comes to a surprising conclusion. It doesn’t end up where you expect it to at all.

124charl08
Jan 14, 2021, 3:10 pm

>122 SandDune: Wow! Nearly there now. Will you be having a Zoom leaving do?

125SandDune
Jan 14, 2021, 3:36 pm

>124 charl08: I suppose I’ll have to ... I don’t really like leaving parties!

126richardderus
Jan 14, 2021, 6:04 pm

>99 SandDune: Water, watering hole, what's the diff to a 12yr old? Heh

>123 SandDune: I adored that book 35 years ago...I wonder if I would now? I might need to revisit it.

Happy weekend to come, Rhian.

127SandDune
Jan 15, 2021, 3:19 am

>126 richardderus: I’d read Lolly Willowes a very long time ago as well, and wasn’t that taken with it then, to be honest. But I’d recently heard it discussed in my favourite literary podcast, Backlisted, and thought that I’d clearly missed something. I think at the time I’d been more interested in something more plot driven, and there’s not a lot of plot in Lolly Willowes. And I think it deserves a more careful reading than I gave it first time around.

I have The Corner that Held Them by the same author which I will be getting around to soon.

128BLBera
Jan 15, 2021, 10:04 am

Lolly Willowes sounds like one I would like, Rhian. Great comments. Onto the list it goes.

Enjoy your last five days!

129karenmarie
Jan 15, 2021, 10:13 am

Hi Rhian.

Glad to hear your mother has gotten her Covid vaccine and that you're so close to retiring.

I've added Lolly Willowes to my wish list.

130SandDune
Edited: Jan 16, 2021, 10:15 am

5. Lowborn: Growing Up, Getting Away and Returning to Britain’s Poorest Towns Kerry Hudson ***



Kerry Hudson had an awful childhood - a truly awful childhood. Brought up by an alcoholic single mother with her own mental health problems, she suffered not only from the effects of poverty, but from the effects of a lack of parental care. By the age of 18 she had had two stays in foster care, and been the subject of a sexual abuse child protection enquiry. She had moved from school to school, eventually attending 9 primary schools and 5 high schools in some of the poorest (and roughest) parts of England and Scotland, moving frequently at a moment’s notice. As a teenager she was sexually assaulted twice, raped once and had two abortions. But, as she says at the start of the book, she escaped:

Shall we start with a happy ending? I made it. I rose. I escaped poverty. I escaped bad food because that’s all you can afford. I escaped threadbare clothes and too-tight shoes. I escaped drinking or drugging myself into oblivion because … because. I probably escaped the early mortality rates and preventable diseases – we’ll see. I escaped obesity. I escaped the higher rate of domestic abuse. I escaped sink estates, burnt-out houses and ice-cream vans selling drugs at the school gates. I escaped Jeremy Kyle in a shiny suit telling me my sort was scum. I escaped casual, grim violence fuelled by frustration and Special Brew. I escaped benefits queues and means assessments and shitty zero-hour contracts. I escaped hopelessness.

In Lowborn Kerry Hudson revisits her childhood, alternating the chapters of her childhood recollections with chapters where she revisits the places that she lived as a child, in an effort to see whether things had got better for the people who hadn’t been as lucky as herself.

I’ve seen a review of Lowborn which says it “invites us to understand the complexities of being born working-class in Britain”, and that is very much what it seems to try to do. Unfortunately, I’m not convinced that it’s terribly successful in this. In particular, the chapters set in 2018 where Hudson revisits the places she lived as a child frequently consist of little more than a quick visit to stare at her old home and a perfunctory conversation with whoever she happens to come across in the vicinity. And with Hudson’s individual situation being so tied up with her mother’s problems, I didn’t feel that I was left with a better understanding of the bigger picture at all. I should point out that this is a minority view, and it has been very well reviewed, but it didn’t completely work for me.

131PaulCranswick
Jan 16, 2021, 2:19 am

>130 SandDune: Solid start to your reading year, Rhian. 100 books this year!

132SandDune
Jan 16, 2021, 4:17 am

>128 BLBera: >129 karenmarie: Yes I’d definitely recommend Lolly Willowes as long as you’re not expecting a lot of plot. It’s a book that has to be savoured rather than rushed.

>131 PaulCranswick: Last year was my lowest reading total for ages Paul, due to my complete reading slump earlier in the year. And then towards the end of last year I starting reading at a normal speed again, but focusing on easier books. I’m in the mood for something a bit more demanding again now.

133sibylline
Jan 17, 2021, 9:43 am

I need to revisit Lolly Willowes too - I have a tiny memory of that surprise and of liking the book. I'm hoping I wrote something in my old book journals (pre LT!) but those are out in my studio where I haven't been in weeks. (I purposely had it built far enough from the house that it would not tempt others to come pester me but turns out in winter that can be problematical when there is enough snow. Do I shovel? Trample a path? I just end up not going there when we have snow. Which is often in winter. And then there is everything else about the present.)

Love your movie night!

134AMQS
Jan 18, 2021, 2:49 pm

This is the week!! So excited for you.

135richardderus
Jan 18, 2021, 3:08 pm

>130 SandDune: What a way to grow up. So sad. So infuriating. Sadly, so common, too.

Happy new week's reads!

136lyzard
Jan 18, 2021, 4:23 pm

Hi, Rhian, just wandering through! Very sorry to hear about Daisy's troubles, I do hope she's better.

Mmm, Lolly Willowes is one I should have gotten to before now.

137SandDune
Jan 19, 2021, 3:27 am

>134 AMQS: Yes - I’m so glad I decided to go now rather than wait for my 60th birthday. Funnily, a couple of years ago it would never have occurred to me to retire early - we were both fairly set on retiring at 62.

>135 richardderus: It was a heartbreaking story, but I’d have liked more emphasis on what could be done to prevent it, which is what I’d been led to expect. There is talk about the impact of austerity on the poor of today, and I’d be the first person to agree with that, but lack of money almost seems the least of the family’s problems. More money would have given the mother more choices, but given the extremely bad life choices that she made throughout, I’m not convinced that this would have helped much. I don’t know what would. Certainly the family needed much more intervention than they received, but offers of help were continually pushed away.

>136 lyzard: Daisy seems to be much better now. Back to her normal greedy self. Yes, I would have thought Lolly Willowes would have been your time period?

138Sakerfalcon
Jan 19, 2021, 6:20 am

I read Lolly Willowes some years ago and was a little underwhelmed, so maybe it's time I revisited it. I loved The corner that held them, and The true heart - actually I've loved all the novels I've read by her! They are all quite different from each other. And I have several volumes of her short stories that I need to explore.

Congratulations on your upcoming retirement!

139SandDune
Jan 20, 2021, 2:55 am

>138 Sakerfalcon: I have The Corner that Held Them on the shelf, and I think I’ll be getting around to it soon, but so far Lolly Willowes is the only thing of hers that I’ve read.

140Caroline_McElwee
Edited: Jan 23, 2021, 5:42 am

Happy RETIREMENT, Rhian. May it be a long and joyful one.

I'm pea green.

141jerrysmith89
Jan 23, 2021, 6:39 am

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142lauralkeet
Jan 23, 2021, 8:03 am

Happy retirement, Rhian! I was just over on Ellen's thread where you mentioned this is your first official day as a retiree. Congratulations! Today being Saturday, I wonder if it will feel a bit more "real" on a weekday. No matter what, I bet it feels great.

143SandDune
Jan 23, 2021, 9:19 am

>140 Caroline_McElwee: >141 jerrysmith89: >142 lauralkeet: Thank you very much! Yes, it’s not quite sunk in yet, it being a Saturday and us just doing normal Saturday jobs this morning. It felt weird when I switched off my work laptop yesterday for the last time. And weird as well that I couldn’t actually see anyone to say goodbye in person.

It’s not going to be quite the retirement I expected, at least initially (I thought I’d have the house to myself, but instead I’ve got Mr SandDune and Jacob at home as well) but I’ve got plenty of things that I want to do that don’t depend on being able to go out and about. I was chatting to Jacob’s girlfriend on Messenger about it yesterday and realised that it is a pretty long list:

- Crafts (knitting & crochet & calligraphy)
- Languages (currently learning French but would like to brush up on my Italian as well).
- Some form of other study - may well look at doing the M.A. in Children’s Literature that I was talking about doing last year.
- Art, in particular drawing (I spent most of my childhood and teenage years doing lots of painting & drawing and I’d like to revisit that)
- Environmental campaigning (want to get more involved with the Green Party)
- Birdwatching (can’t go out and about at the moment, but some can be done locally).

I’d also like to do some travelling (inter-railing round Eastern Europe appeals) but obviously that will have to wait.

At the moment I’m not thinking of doing any more part-time work (particularly with the COVID situation, and me being vulnerable) although I could do a few weeks agency work here and there if we need it financially, although currently I don’t think that will be necessary. I’ll probably do some volunteering once COVID is sorted, but not yet.

144CDVicarage
Jan 23, 2021, 9:24 am

Best wishes for your retirement, Rhian. That looks a good list of things to do!

I was retired a few years ago - made redundant and took my pension instead of looking for a new job - and our next step will be when my husband retires, hopefully in 12-18 months time. As we live in tied accommodation we shall start by finding a house and moving, which, I expect will keep us busy for a while.

145scaifea
Jan 23, 2021, 10:13 am

Happy retirement, Rhian!!

146lauralkeet
Jan 23, 2021, 10:31 am

>143 SandDune: Re: Knitting & crochet, there's a lovely Needlearts Group here on LT where we chat about our projects and share photos and such. You'll find knitting, crochet, sewing, quilting, embroidery and the like. Feel free to visit, lurk, or even start a. personal thread.

147BLBera
Jan 23, 2021, 11:01 am

Best wishes, Rhian.

>146 lauralkeet: I didn't know about this group. I'll have to check it out.

148thornton37814
Jan 23, 2021, 11:04 am

Enjoy retirement!

149FAMeulstee
Edited: Jan 23, 2021, 11:40 am

Happy retirement, Rhian!

>143 SandDune: That is a lot of plans, enough to keep you busy ;-)

150lauralkeet
Jan 23, 2021, 12:14 pm

>147 BLBera: oh yes Beth! All are welcome!

151richardderus
Jan 23, 2021, 12:30 pm

>143 SandDune: That's such a weird way to make this transition, like it's...Saturday, and no one to say good-bye to yesterday took away any sense of Occasion it might've had.

Well, by the end of 2021 I hope you'll have the opportunity to do some now-that-I'm-retired stuff from your list.

152jnwelch
Jan 23, 2021, 1:29 pm

Hi, Rhian.

I join in congratulating you and wishing you a Happy Retirement. It's the best, as far as I'm concerned!

Thank you for the lovely reviews. Back to Nature intrigues me despite not knowing the authors, or knowing England all that well. I'm interested in both protections for wildlife and Aspberger's syndrome, and the English countryside featured in so much of my reading as a kid.

The Magician's Nephew was my first Narnia book, and it captured me immediately. Like you, I held that series above all others, except L. Frank Baum's Oz books were probably on equal footing. I've not re-read any Narnia books in decades, and your experience with that is encouraging.

I've known about Lolly Willowes for a long time, but never really understood what it was about. Your review helped, and I'll add it to my WL.

153SandDune
Jan 23, 2021, 2:03 pm

>144 CDVicarage: We will quite likely be moving at some stage, but don’t want to do so until COVID is over. It wouldn’t be fair at the moment to cart Jacob off to a part of the country he doesn’t know.

>145 scaifea: >147 BLBera: >148 thornton37814: >149 FAMeulstee:. Thanks Amber, Beth, Lori, Anita!

>146 lauralkeet: Thanks Laura - I’ve joined this (although I don’t have anything impressive to post at the moment. Mr SandDune bought me an easy crochet blanket kit for Christmas and I’m making reasonable progress with that.

154SandDune
Jan 23, 2021, 2:13 pm

>151 richardderus: Well the last time I left a job I was made redundant, and I was basically escorted back to my desk to collect my things and then escorted out of the building there and then. It was a City job and that was the normal procedure. But I did get a farewell lunch later, and they had to pay me to come back for a few days to do a handover.

>152 jnwelch: I'm interested in both protections for wildlife and Aspberger's syndrome I would recommend Chris Packham’s memoir Fingers in the Sparkle Jar then. I was watching him on the TV this afternoon, actually, as it is ‘Winterwatch’ time, which is perfect ironing TV.

155quondame
Jan 23, 2021, 2:36 pm

>143 SandDune: Happy retirement! May your days blossom under your own control.

156MickyFine
Jan 23, 2021, 4:04 pm

Congratulations on your retirement, Rhian! Have fun finding all new routines for your days.

157ArlieS
Jan 23, 2021, 4:13 pm

Happy retirement, from a new member of the challenge (first year), coincidentally on the day after your planned big day. I hope to join you in retirement myself this year, probably in March or April.

I see we read some of the same books, but not too many, so I expect I'll be happily raiding this thread for ideas.

158lauralkeet
Edited: Jan 23, 2021, 5:22 pm

>153 SandDune: I'm glad you found and joined the Needlearts group, Rhian. Don't feel pressured to start a thread. Not everyone does. Sometimes it's just fun to see what people are making and comment or ask questions.

>154 SandDune: Winterwatch time -- yes! It will show up on Britbox here eventually, but we found a couple of this week's episodes on another video site last night so we might be able to keep up in real time.

159CDVicarage
Jan 23, 2021, 5:22 pm

>153 SandDune: Yes, we are in the area we want to retire to already. It's easy to move with the Church of England so we decided to move to Cheshire, to be close to our daughter, who is firmly settled there, when it felt time to change parishes four years ago.

160johnsimpson
Jan 23, 2021, 6:01 pm

Hi Rhian, happy retirement my dear.

161drneutron
Jan 23, 2021, 7:31 pm

Congrats! Happy retirement!

162SandDune
Edited: Jan 24, 2021, 11:45 am

6. Windsor Knot S. J. Bennett **



A cozy mystery (first of a series) in which the ninety year old Queen Elizabeth II (with the help of her faithful assistant Rozie) investigates the murder of a musician found dead in compromising circumstance at Windsor Castle.

I should say that I am completely the wrong audience for this book. I haven’t got a royalist bone in my body, and if there was a referendum tomorrow to get rid of the monarchy I wouldn’t have to think twice about which way I’d be voting. And I know that this is just supposed to be a fun read but it completely rubbed my republican tendencies the wrong way. It’s just that the depiction of the Queen is so ... obsequious.

Rozie watched the family from a distance, with the Queen at the heart of it, her face alight with pleasure. She really did dazzle, just like Baba Samuel said. It was something about her skin, which was flawless, and also her eyes, which danced with delight whenever there was something to amuse her. The ready presence of pearls and diamonds did no harm, obviously – but Baba Samuel was right: even in her dressing gown she seemed to glitter. Now, in a silk damask evening gown and antique sparkles, she looked radiant.

And the servants and staff of the Royal Household are just so lovingly devoted to the Royal Family. I can tell you now, if my employer sent me left over jam sandwiches from their grandchildren’s tea party to make up for working all the hours God sends (as is sent to Rozie) then personally I’d probably have thrown them at them.

If this had been a real book, I’d probably have thrown it at something as well, but unluckily (or luckily depending on what I hit) I was reading it on my kindle. The only reason that I finished it was it’s my next RL book club choice, and the person who picked it has persuaded the author to come and talk to us (virtually that is). So I felt obliged to finish it, and all I have to do now is think of something polite to say about it.

163SandDune
Edited: Jan 24, 2021, 11:31 am

7.The Inheritors William Golding****



Mal leads Lok, Fa, Liku and the rest of the people from their winter base by the sea to their summer camp in the mountains near a waterfall. They have made the same journey for more years than anyone can remember, but this year it will be different. The fallen log which they have always used for crossing the river has disappeared ...

‘ “The log has gone away.”

He shut his eyes and frowned at the picture of the log. It had lain in the water from this side to that, grey and rotting. When you trod the centre you could feel the water that washed beneath you, horrible water, as deep in places as a man’s shoulder. The water was not awake like the river or the fall but asleep, spreading there to the river and waking up, stretching on the right into wildernesses of impassable swamp and thicket and bog. So sure was he of this log the people always used that he opened his eyes again, beginning to smile as if he were waking out of a dream; but the log was gone.’

The people struggle to work out how they can cross the river without the log, for these ‘people’ are not human, but Neanderthal, and new situations are difficult for them. But the absence of the log is only the first change that their journey brings. On arriving at their summer camp, they discover that there are ‘New People’ there who are different to themselves. The New People have boats and clay pots and bows and arrows, technology that is far in advance of the people’s own and which they are unable to comprehend...

This is a thoughtful book, with a very powerful ending, and it’s one that I think I will reread in the not too distant future.

164thornton37814
Jan 24, 2021, 11:45 am

>162 SandDune: If this had been a real book, I’d probably have thrown it at something as well,

You gave me a good laugh! I've read more than a few of those on Kindle. Thanks for the warning.

165SandDune
Jan 24, 2021, 11:56 am

>155 quondame: >156 MickyFine: >160 johnsimpson: >161 drneutron: Thanks Susan, Micky, John, Jim!

>157 ArlieS: Welcome Arlie! Looking forward to see what you are reading as well.

>158 lauralkeet: At the moment I am probably at the needing support and inspiration stage, rather than anything.

166SandDune
Jan 24, 2021, 12:01 pm

>164 thornton37814: Lori, to be fair to the Windsor Knot, it’s had some good reviews, it’s just totally the wrong book for me. I’m hoping the author isn’t there for the whole meeting, I would like an opportunity to express my true feelings as well.

167avatiakh
Jan 24, 2021, 12:41 pm

Congratulations on your retirement. Sounds like you have a lot of activity planned.

168charl08
Jan 24, 2021, 12:49 pm

>162 SandDune: I think I'd find a reason to miss the meeting. Awkward! Although maybe everyone else (apart from the chooser) agrees with you? It does sound rather OTT (although I lean republican too, so maybe not the best judge).

Wishing you a good first week retired!

169SandDune
Jan 24, 2021, 2:23 pm

>159 CDVicarage: We still haven’t chosen our area, and it is so difficult to do anything with the current situation.

>167 avatiakh: Thanks Kerry!

>168 charl08: I would feel a bit mean about missing the meeting, We’re not a big group, and it’s nice that she’s made the effort to ask the author along. At the moment, with lockdown, and with the fact I’ve just retired, I don’t think I’d be able to come up with a good excuse for not being there either. It’s not really the sort of thing we usually read - we’re more a literary fiction sort of group - but at least I have got through it (not like Mr SandDune who has given up on page 10).

170katiekrug
Jan 24, 2021, 6:39 pm

A bit late to the flurry of congratulations on your retirement, Rhian, but good wishes sent nonetheless!

Enjoy your first no-work Monday :)

171SandyAMcPherson
Jan 24, 2021, 10:08 pm

Adding my congrats on the retirement plans, Rhian.
I enjoyed skimming through your thread. I'll add my voice to saying that having retired, you will likely find a year from now that it is just so amazing how you ever had time to go to work! All the best with moving to a new locale in the fullness of time.

In bookish thoughts,
I really should give Piranesi a try... the thing is, I didn't like the Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell writing style at all, so I've been reluctant to attempt others by Clarke.

172quondame
Jan 24, 2021, 10:40 pm

>171 SandyAMcPherson: I don't know that it had anything to do with the style, but I was left with a better impression of Piranesi Than of Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norell.

173SandDune
Jan 25, 2021, 3:16 am

>170 katiekrug: >171 SandyAMcPherson: Thanks Katie & Sandy!

>171 SandyAMcPherson: >172 quondame: I haven’t read Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell but I have looked at it and my impression is that the style is very different, with the earlier book being a lot more florid.

174SandyAMcPherson
Jan 25, 2021, 9:10 am

>172 quondame: >173 SandDune: Thanks for these encouraging remarks. I am heartened to know that in attempting Clarke's story, I won't be facing (for me) a daunting chunkster with an impenetrable plot.

175SandDune
Edited: Jan 25, 2021, 5:21 pm

>174 SandyAMcPherson: Well it’s not a chunkster, but the plot is not immediately obvious to be honest, although I wouldn’t say it was a plot driven book.

I forgot to say that we had our RL book club zoom meeting to discuss Piranesi last week, and there was a very wide set of views. Most people liked it very much, although there were two people that did not. One of those said that it was the worst book that she had read in the last 5 years, which seemed a little harsh, and we’ve put it down to her not coping well with lockdown! There was an interesting difference of opinion in the group between those people who do read fantasy and those who don’t. Several of the latter took the view that the events of the book were ‘all in the mind’ and what was happening was very much a metaphor. It reminded me of something I’d read in Jo Walton’s book What Makes This Book So Great about readers used to literary fiction approaching science-fiction and fantasy:

A reviewer wanted to make the zombies in Kelly Link’s “Zombie Contingency Plans” (in the collection Magic for Beginners) into metaphors. They’re not. They’re actual zombies. They may also be metaphors, but their metaphorical function is secondary to the fact that they’re actual zombies that want to eat your brains. Science fiction may be literalization of metaphor, it may be open to metaphorical, symbolic and even allegorical readings, but what’s real within the story is real within the story, or there’s no there there.


Not that I’m suggesting there are zombies in Piranesi (there aren’t) but the principle is the same.

176richardderus
Jan 25, 2021, 5:27 pm

>162 SandDune: This is where the evergreen and anodyne "what sparked this idea for a book?" comes in right handy.

>163 SandDune: Muuuch more like it.

Happy new week's reads!

177BLBera
Jan 25, 2021, 7:38 pm

>169 SandDune: Ask the author why she chose to write a mystery centered on a queen? Questions are good things when you don't have any favorable comments. :)

The Inheritors sounds like one I would like.

178SandDune
Edited: Jan 26, 2021, 3:43 am

>177 BLBera: I have thought of one question. As the book is set a few years ago when it was the Queen’s 90th birthday in 2016, she is able to incorporate a visit from the Obamas. I was going to ask if the author set it at that time in order to be able to incorporate a non-controversial political visit, which would not have been possible if she’d set it a few years later and had had to include the state visit by Trump. Or was it simply to be able to have sufficient time to fit more books in, in which case why start it on the Queen’s 90th birthday? Why not her 85th, or her 80th?

179karenmarie
Jan 26, 2021, 11:47 am

Hi Rhian!

Congrats on your retirement, I hope that your transition will be fun and fulfilling.

180SandyAMcPherson
Jan 26, 2021, 12:06 pm

>162 SandDune: Nah. Don't be overly polite. Be candid...

While I'm certainly not a royalist (and I abhor the celebrity-like adulation of a bunch of people who never earned their way to their "status"), I am grateful that our Prime Minister function is not revered like a celebrity-president often is.

That non-political function of the Windsor family does have its attributes for behind-the-scene counsel. In my not-so-humble opinion, they haven't a clue what it is like for ordinary folk making their way through difficulties. They're way too pampered and the idea of that jam-sandwich scenario is appalling.

--- don't mind me... you have to live in the UK, so I just wanted to sympathise.

181Caroline_McElwee
Edited: Jan 26, 2021, 1:18 pm

>175 SandDune: That is interesting Rhian. I'm not a massive fantasy reader, but I didn't feel that way about the book. I think I said in my review, among other things, that although very different, it put me in mind of Calvino's Invisible Cities.

182SandDune
Jan 26, 2021, 2:33 pm

>179 karenmarie: Thanks Karen!

>180 SandyAMcPherson: I would favour keeping the Prime Minister role as is, and introducing a more ceremonial President role, a bit like Ireland. I wouldn’t favour a U.S. style presidency: that seems almost to introduce a new level of quasi-royalty.

>181 Caroline_McElwee: It obviously depends on the reader, but several of the members of the book group wanted to turn it into something rather more metaphorical, and it made me think of that section by Jo Walton. I do enjoy her comments on SFF writing.

183BLBera
Jan 26, 2021, 2:45 pm

Good question, Rhian.

184ronincats
Jan 26, 2021, 5:53 pm

Your review got me to put Lolly Willowes on reserve at the library (has 2 copies, neither currently available, and one hold ahead of me). And I love that book by Jo Walton so much that I went out and bought a copy for myself after reading a library copy initially.

Happy retirement, Rhian!

185SandDune
Edited: Jan 27, 2021, 4:19 pm

>183 BLBera: Thanks!

>184 ronincats: I’ve referred to What Makes this Book so Great so many times. And she clearly loves many of the same series that I do (the Vorkosigan and Jhereg books in particular).

186charl08
Jan 27, 2021, 2:44 pm

Oh no! Now I want my own copy of What Makes This Book So Great. I love that quote you chose Rhian.
(Are Zombies always Zombies? One to puzzle over)

187sirfurboy
Jan 29, 2021, 5:31 am

>163 SandDune: That is interesting. I have not read that book by Golding. Of course, our understanding of Neanderthals has progressed somewhat - especially with the understanding now that they interbred with homo sapiens.

188SandDune
Jan 29, 2021, 6:19 am

>186 charl08: I have a sort of idea to work through the books in What Makes This Book So Great. A long term project maybe.

>187 sirfurboy: Yes, I wouldn’t read it for any scientific ideas of what Neanderthals were actually like! Plenty of other reasons to read it though.

189PaulCranswick
Jan 29, 2021, 8:40 am

>163 SandDune: Golding had a unique voice, I think, Rhian. Never easy reading but always challenging and rewarding.

190SandDune
Jan 29, 2021, 2:53 pm

>189 PaulCranswick: Hi Paul, I find he’s the sort of writer that I have to really focus on, but it’s worth it.

Two good things happened today. I saw what I think was a kestrel in the back garden, so I was very excited about that. And I got a text for me to book my appointment for my first COVID vaccination, so I have an appointment for Wednesday afternoon. I don’t know which one they will be doing, but I suppose I will find out when I’m there.

We then we had some nice take-away pizza for tea, Friday night has been gradually morphing into take-away night and Jacob has been complaining about lack of pizza. Left to our own devices myself and Mr SandDune will probably alternate between Indian or Thai, so it was his turn to choose pizza.

191quondame
Jan 29, 2021, 10:26 pm

>188 SandDune: I've read a lot of the books Jo Walton mentioned - and was even making an indexed list, but I've no idea where I put it. What I remembered most clearly was how much more she got out of Steven Brust's books than I did. I haven't gone back and re-read them, but I paid more attention to the next one I read.

192BLBera
Jan 30, 2021, 12:10 pm

Congrats on getting the vaccine, Rhian!

193LovingLit
Jan 31, 2021, 2:22 am

>175 SandDune: There was an interesting difference of opinion in the group between those people who do read fantasy and those who don’t. Several of the latter took the view that the events of the book were ‘all in the mind’ and what was happening was very much a metaphor.
That is interesting!
I don't generally read fantasy and could imagine myself trying to rationalise the storyline by saying something like this. (reading The Master and Margarita, all I could think of was - what?? A talking cat??!?!)

194SandDune
Jan 31, 2021, 3:21 pm

>191 quondame: I’ve always really liked Steven Brust. Not sure why. If you described the books to me it wouldn’t sound like the sort of books that I would like. I’ve read all the Vlad Taltos ones, and can happily reread them.

>192 BLBera: I’m just hoping that Mr SandDune can have the vaccine before he is expected to teach in person again. He will be 60 at the beginning of March, so there is a chance that he might.

>193 LovingLit: I loved The Master and Margarita. Of course cats can talk!

195SandDune
Jan 31, 2021, 3:47 pm

We’ve booked a holiday this weekend. We were hoping to go to France but that is looking less and less possible, so have booked to go to Scotland instead. Hopefully, we will be able to get there, assuming lockdown is lifted at some stage. We have booked a week in Fife (just north of Edinburgh) and then a week on the Isle of Mull on the west coast, in the second and third weeks of July. We’ve been to a lot of Scottish Islands over the years but have never been to Mull, which is supposed to be particularly good for wildlife. We spent hours yesterday looking for suitable accommodation on Mull. We wanted something of a reasonably high standard (as it rains a lot on Mull and we wanted something that we were happy to be indoors on the rainy days), with two bathrooms (Jacob’s girlfriend is coming with us so we thought that might be easier), as well as somewhere that would take Daisy. We eventually found somewhere, after much searching, only to discover that Jacob’s girlfriend is only coming with us for the first week after all as she has her graduation ceremony, so the second bathroom (which seemed like gold dust on Mull) was no longer essential.

We will need to be careful with Daisy with sheep and deer on Mull, although Mr SandDune thinks an encounter with a red deer (much bigger than the fallow deer which we get around here, and much bigger than Daisy) might cure her of her tendency to go charging off in pursuit of any deer for which she gets a scent. Which is a nuisance to be honest, and means we have to keep her on the lead in any places where deer are likely to be found, of which there are a fair few in the local vicinity.

196SandDune
Jan 31, 2021, 4:00 pm

I did the RSPB’s Big Garden Birdwatch this morning. It’s the biggest citizen science programme in the U.K. (around half a million people took part last year) and it has been going since 1979. Basically you record the highest number of birds of every species seen in your garden at any one time over a period of one hour over this weekend.

These were my results:

5 house sparrows
4 blackbirds
2 wood pigeons
2 robins
2 blue tits
2 starlings
1 goldfinch
1 magpie
1 redwing

I was disappointed not to record great tits as there are usually a couple around somewhere, and also not to have seen more starlings as there are frequently about 10 or 12. But the redwing is a first for the garden, so I was excited to see that.

197lauralkeet
Jan 31, 2021, 9:00 pm

>195 SandDune: Rhian, given your interest in birds, while you are in Fife you might look into visiting North Berwick and specifically Bass Rock. It's been many years since our visit but we were able to take a boat out to Bass Rock which was covered in gannets. We weren't allowed out of the boat but it was still quite a sight.

198SandDune
Edited: Feb 2, 2021, 3:38 am

Just bought my first two books for 2021: Motherwell: A Girlhood by Deborah Orr and
English Pastoral: An Inheritance by James Rebanks. I’m definitely acquiring books at a slower rate than normal for two main reasons. All the bookshops are closed at the moment and so no browsing, and also I’ve got lots and lots of book tokens to spend and it’s more fiddly to spend them online. So it seems wrong to actually pay for the books when I could get them for free. The reason I have such a lot of book tokens is because of COVID testing. We are part of the ONS (Office for National Statistics) COVID survey: someone comes around to do a COVID test once a week for the first four weeks, and then every four weeks after that. And every time you have a test you get a voucher which I have converted to book tokens, not realising that it would be difficult to spend them in lockdown.

I was going to read Motherwell: A Girlhood straight away, but someone has just picked it for our RL book club meeting in June. Other choices for the next few months are The Accidental by Ali Smith, Night Waking by Sarah Moss, Hamnet by Maggie O’Farrell, and Wilding: The Return of Nature to a British Farm by Isabella Tree. Looks some really good choices (I’m biased about Wilding of course, as it’s my choice.)

199SandDune
Feb 2, 2021, 3:43 am

>197 lauralkeet: We are going to do some boat trips (COVID permitting). There is also the Island of May (which featured in last year’s Autumnwatch) which I think has puffins.

200PaulCranswick
Feb 2, 2021, 6:53 am

Good luck with the COVID-19 vaccine tomorrow, Rhian. I will be thinking about you and hope that you don't have any reaction. It is on the way to normalcy, I hope.

201lauralkeet
Feb 2, 2021, 8:12 am

>198 SandDune: we bought Wilding last year after learning about the Knepp Estate on one of the Watch programmes. Neither of us have read it yet, but it's a topic of interest.

>199 SandDune: Puffins! Oh yes, that would be fun too.

202PawsforThought
Feb 2, 2021, 9:11 am

>194 SandDune: Glad someone else is a fan of The Master and Margarita! That's my all-time favourite book! I'll happily admit it's absolutely bonkers, but that's part of why I love it. Where else can you find a vodka-drinking, revolver-handling talking cat who's having a party with the Devil? Only in Bulgakov-land.

203Crazymamie
Feb 2, 2021, 9:54 am

Happy Retirement, Rhian! How very exciting. And your vacation plans sound lovely - crossing my fingers for you.

I have Night Waking in the stacks - I treated myself to several by Sarah Moss earlier this year as I love what I have read by her so far.

Wilding sounds good! I had not heard of that one.

204Sakerfalcon
Feb 2, 2021, 10:17 am

>196 SandDune: That's a nice list of birds! I think a lot of my regulars were sheltering out of sight as it was a very cold day here.

Mull is lovely; you should get some white-tailed eagle sightings without difficulty. I've stayed on the isle of Ulva (off Mull's west coast) three or four times in the last 10 years and we saw them every time. If you can get a boat trip to Lunga you should see puffins, guillemots, razorbills, kittiwakes and fulmar as well anything you spot on the voyage. I hope you have a wonderful time!

205SandDune
Feb 2, 2021, 5:30 pm

>200 PaulCranswick: Thanks Paul. Apparently the appointment process is working fairly efficiently locally, so hopefully it will not take too long.

>201 lauralkeet: I can strongly recommend Wilding: it has kindled a real interest in me in rewilding and the reintroduction of species in general. The book also challenges the prevailing assumptions of what the natural landscape of the British Isles would have actually looked like, a subject which I have found fascinating ever since I did a course on the subject at University. There has always been an assumption that left to its own devices the British Isles would have pretty much continuous tree cover, whereas in Wilding Isabella Tree argues pretty convincingly that the large herbivores that used to exist (prior to their being hunted to extinction) would have led to a much more open landscape.

206richardderus
Feb 2, 2021, 5:36 pm

>196 SandDune: I think that is the single most British thing I've ever heard in my life...forty-two years of citizen science about...birds.

I experienced a big fat nothing after my Pfizer vaccination, so I'm hoping that will be your experience as well, Rhian.

207lauralkeet
Edited: Feb 2, 2021, 5:53 pm

>205 SandDune: Thanks for saying more about Wilding, Rhian. It sounds right up my street but also my husband's so I may make him read it first.

>206 richardderus: forty-two years of citizen science about...birds
The US has a similar endeavor, The Great Backyard Bird Count. Rhian's post prompted me to check the dates. This year's even runs from Feb 12-15. The GBBC began in 1998. That makes 2021 the 24th year, not 42 years but nothing to sneeze at, either!

208richardderus
Feb 2, 2021, 6:58 pm

>207 lauralkeet: A US version, even! We can't get our own Time Team but we can get bird-counting clones.

Thanks Trump.

209PawsforThought
Feb 2, 2021, 7:13 pm

>208 richardderus: Did you hear that Time Team are working on getting the show back up? They have a Patreon up and have smashed their targets so are looking at sites and getting paperwork going.

210richardderus
Feb 2, 2021, 7:19 pm

>209 PawsforThought: Oh yes indeed! I'm a patron, too. It would be so great to have the show back on again!

211ronincats
Feb 2, 2021, 8:08 pm

>185 SandDune:, >191 quondame: Exactly! Bujold and Brust and a lot of attention to Cherryh as well, along as a lot of singles that I just love!

212BLBera
Feb 2, 2021, 9:06 pm

A holiday! Maybe someday soon we'll be able to travel again.

Your Scotland getaway sounds great. Enjoy.

Lots of good choices for your RL book club.

213SandDune
Feb 3, 2021, 3:41 am

>202 PawsforThought: I think it’s probably about time for a reread of The Master and Margarita - it’s a while since I read it.

>203 Crazymamie: I’ve enjoyed everything I’ve read by Sarah Moss: Cold Earth, Bodies of Light, Ghost Wall, Names for the Sea: Strangers in Iceland, and she’s pretty much Mr SandDune’s favourite author at the moment. He’s just finished Summerwater which I need to get around to.

214SandDune
Edited: Feb 3, 2021, 7:04 am

>204 Sakerfalcon: We got most of our regulars except the great tits. We also get dunnock, a pair of collared doves from time to time, the occasional crow, jackdaw or rook, and I have seen long-tailed tits, a heron (back when we had fish in our pond), a sparrowhawk and a red kite flying overhead. I still get very excited about seeing red kites - I have an older pocket bird guide from the 1990s that doesn’t even bother mentioning red kites because they were so rare, so it still seems amazing to me that they are something I can see from a suburban garden. We never get chaffinches though which I always think is surprising as they are pretty common birds.

>204 Sakerfalcon: Wow Ulva, that’s pretty remote! I’m not sure why we’ve never been to Mull - we had a phase when we went to a lot of Scottish islands. And it was on the radar again when Jacob was little (Balamory) but we’ve never quite got there. This time is was a choice between Islay, Skye and Mull, but myself and Mr SandDune have been to Islay twice and we all visited Skye relatively recently, so Mull won out.

The remotest place that we have stayed is North Ronaldsay on Orkney. Very interesting, but I did start to get a bit angsty when it was foggy on our final day so the plane couldn’t land and I realised that if it stayed foggy we could be trapped there for days, as there was only one boat a week.

215SandDune
Feb 3, 2021, 7:01 am

>206 richardderus: >207 lauralkeet: >208 richardderus: I think they have got a great deal of information about increases and decreases in bird populations since 1979.

Apparently the winners are the wood pigeon, collared dove, coal tit, magpie and wren, whereas the losers are the starling, song thrush, greenfinch, house sparrow and chaffinch. The number of different specifies attracted to bird feeders has also increased, as people feed a wider variety of bird foods these days.

>208 richardderus: >209 PawsforThought: >210 richardderus: I’m not a great watcher of Time Team, largely because Mr SandDune has as an aversion to Tony Robinson, so complains if he’s on the TV. I do remember an episode they did on my favourite sand dunes searching for the lost town of Kenfig, which was buried by sand in the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries. There certainly is a buried town, as there’s a lot of documentary evidence of it, but the only thing left is bits of a very ruined castle. I don’t remember that the Time Team squad found very much that time to be honest. I think they were hampered by the sheer volume of sand - I seem to remember that there was something like 20 feet of it.

>211 ronincats: I haven’t read much Cherryh (she’s another one who’s books are a little bit problematic to get hold of in the U.K.) but I have enjoyed what I have read.

>212 BLBera: Well I just hope that the holiday will be able to go ahead. And that Caroline (Jacob’s girlfriend) will be able to come. Daisy will be ecstatic! She adores Caroline, and she’ll have a whole day in the car sandwiched between Caroline and Jacob while we’re driving to Scotland. As well as lots of days out on the beach while we’re there.

216Sakerfalcon
Feb 3, 2021, 7:54 am

>214 SandDune: I never see finches in the garden outside my flat, but we get a variety of tits (blue, great, coal and long tailed). I have had a few sparrowhawk sightings over the 12 years I've lived here, including watching a very traumatic incident with the hawk having caught a female blackbird and the male doing a broken wing display to try and distract it and save her. Nature red in tooth and claw indeed!

Orkney and Shetland are on my wish list to visit, as are pretty much any of the Inner and Outer Hebrides. I haven't spent nearly as much time there as I'd like.

217SandDune
Feb 3, 2021, 2:34 pm

Well, I’ve had my first vaccination. I had the Pfizer one - no side effects so far - and the process seemed very efficient. Lots of volunteers organising parking and queuing. Apparently they had done 1400 people today, which for a town of 40,000 people is pretty good going. They will be bringing people in from the surrounding villages as well, but even so ...

And last night we had the talk by S.J. Bennett the author of The Windsor Knot my RL (virtual) book club. It was an interesting talk, even though I hated the book. Apparently, she is planning around 20 books, with groups of four books set in different time periods, so four books with the current day Queen, four books with the Queen in the 1950’s, etc. Her background seems very well connected, her father was clearly some sort of high up military person who had meetings with the Queen on a number of occasions and she clearly knows several people who have held positions in the royal household, so her research on the practicalities of the royal household seemed well done. Apparently at one time she was ‘invited’ to apply for the position of deputy personal secretary to the Queen (a role that features heavily in the book) although she didn’t get the job.

Our group were all very polite and asked lots of questions, even though several people (most possibly) were not keen on it: Mr SandDune actually refused to read further than page 10. I think you really do need to be very keen on the royal family to like this one. But then I suppose lots of people do, and she’s clearly got a good publishing deal.

218SandDune
Feb 3, 2021, 2:39 pm

>216 Sakerfalcon: The only finches we get are goldfinches. They used to be very, very occasional visitors but get them much more frequently these days.

Of all the Scottish Islands, my favourite has to be Orkney. We have spent two two week holidays there over the years, but have not been since 2003. I’d happily go back. They’ve got quite a different feel to some of the other islands and a lot of historical sites to see as well (we all like a good ruin).

219richardderus
Feb 3, 2021, 2:43 pm

>217 SandDune: I'm crossing what still crosses for the side-effectlessness to continue, Rhian. And it's a pity about The Mister not liking Tony Robinson, though I understand how intensely he feels. For me it's the Bear Grylls phenomenon, I can't be in hearing distance of that...individual.

A publishing deal that covers 20 books would be one that involves a hefty investment of cash in the publisher!

Speed bonny boat over the week to Saturday.

220charl08
Feb 3, 2021, 2:46 pm

You made me go dig around in my photo collections for photos of Mull. Can't believe it was 15 years ago, but it was, and although the photos make it look quite grey weather I remember it being good weather (for Scotland) and a beautiful place to visit. Hope everything is in place with the vaccines and the end of lockdown so that you have a brilliant trip.

221SandyAMcPherson
Feb 4, 2021, 8:15 am

>207 lauralkeet: I've done that GBBC in years past. It was a 'thing' when we first put up a selection of feeders.
Not good species diversity in our neighbourhood nowadays. When we first moved here, our neighbourhood was close to the edge of the city. But 30+ years on, we are surrounded by housing developments and paved over meadows for shopping malls. It's an awful mistake, IMO. One reason I want to move, to get away from high speed traffic noise. The ring road system sure kills an inner city downtown as well as drive away our bird populations.

Holiday away? What's that again?? Will I live long enough to see unhindered, virus-free travel? (She says melodramatically...)

222karenmarie
Feb 4, 2021, 9:18 am

Glad to hear that you got your first dose of vaccine, Rhian. I'm getting my first dose today.

223BLBera
Feb 4, 2021, 9:57 am

Congrats on getting your first dose of vaccine, Rhian. I'm hopeful that my turn will come soon. It sounds like your book club session went as well as could be expected. It does seem like an odd kind of book to choose.

Fingers crossed that your holiday happens.

224jnwelch
Feb 4, 2021, 12:04 pm

Thanks for the Fingers in the Sparkle Jar recommendation, Rhian. It looks good, and I've added it to my WL. Great title.

225quondame
Feb 4, 2021, 2:30 pm

>217 SandDune: Is great you got the vaccination. Those vacation plans sound like a fantasy adventure to me.

226Familyhistorian
Feb 5, 2021, 7:05 pm

Happy retirement, Rhian! It sounds like you are getting into it gradually and booking a vacation is a great step. Always nice to have something to look forward to. Doesn't seem that will happen for us here any time soon. Congrats on getting your first shot.

227SandDune
Feb 7, 2021, 4:02 am

>219 richardderus: No more side-effects, and the sore arm has worn off as well.

I think part of the problem with Mr SandDune and Time Team as well is that is a ‘lighter’ history programme. If the digs went on for months and the whole series was about a very specific time period, he’d probably like it more! As far as he is concerned, it’s pretty much impossible to get too much detail when it comes to history.

>220 charl08: Bad weather put us off going to Scotland for years. We had one holiday where it pretty much rained continuously. But last time we went in 2015 the weather was good: at least, it did rain a fair bit over the two weeks but it rained at very convenient times so we really only had one day that was rained off. And we had some beautiful weather on Skye - so clear.

228PaulCranswick
Feb 7, 2021, 6:35 am

Congrats on the jab and the absence of side-effects.

229SandDune
Feb 8, 2021, 3:50 am

>221 SandyAMcPherson: We live pretty near the edge of town, but to be honest the gardens around us are better habitats for birds than the local farmland is. Our estate was built in the early to mid 90’s, and there are a fair amount of shrubs and trees both in the public areas and in people’s gardens. So there is quite a lot of cover for the birds.

>222 karenmarie: Good luck with your vaccine Karen!

>223 BLBera: It was a bit of a different choice for our book club (if you just consider the book) as we generally read more literary fiction. But it was chosen as the host for last week works with the author’s husband at a charity that she volunteers for, so picking the book was an opportunity to have the author talk. And the author talk was actually very interesting - I think that she’d be great at book festivals once the country’s up and running again.

230SandDune
Feb 8, 2021, 6:13 am

>224 jnwelch: It’s a good read, Joe!

>225 quondame: >226 Familyhistorian: Well, I hope it actually takes place. I’m not really expecting a normal holiday. On last summer’s holiday we didn’t eat out except once (and that was outside) and we spent most of our time avoiding people. I just hope the border between England and Scotland isn’t shut again! Of course, there isn’t really an official border, but one thing that has become apparent during the pandemic is that because control of health issues are devolved to Scotland and Wales, Boris Johnson really only has control over lockdown regulations in England, so there is a de-facto border when it comes to COVID regulations.

>228 PaulCranswick: Thanks Paul! Just hoping I don’t have to wait to long for the next dose.

231humouress
Feb 8, 2021, 7:06 am

I'm dropping by after a long break, Rhian, because your thread moves dauntingly fast. Congratulations on your retirement and upcoming vaccination.

I was going to suggest checking whether the author of The Windsor Knot might have been tongue in cheek about the royal family (especially with the jam sandwich episode) but I'm guessing from your report of your book club meeting that she wasn't. I suppose you haven't been watching The Crown then? ;0)

232HenryFrost
Feb 8, 2021, 7:10 am

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233SandDune
Feb 8, 2021, 5:13 pm

>231 humouress: I have had very little good to say about the government’s handling of the pandemic so far, but somewhat surprisingly, the vaccination programme seems to be working pretty efficiently. They seem to be on target to have vaccinated the top four groups by mid-February (health workers, care workers, over 70s, and severely vulnerable people), so over 60s should start being vaccinated pretty soon.

I’ve seen the first season of The Crown (and quite enjoyed it to be honest) but I haven’t got around to the later series. But I didn’t find it so sycophantic as The Windsor Knot.
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