Charlotte's garden of reading in 2024
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1charl08
Hi, I'm Charlotte, based in the north of England. I like to read (like all of us here, I'm sure) and enjoy using the categories to try and nudge my reading along a bit out of the usual tracks.
The lovely beech tree in our back garden became unsafe last year, and has been dramatically chopped back to just a trunk. I'll be trying some new things in the garden to make the most of greater sunlight, and I've ordered a garden journal to try and track my successes (and the plants that don't make it).

After a pretty awful 2023, with lots of related grief-based and comfort reading, I'm looking forward to trying to get back with a bit more focus to my TBR pile in 2024. I'm going to track the books that come into the house (with some trepidation) as well as those that get donated on, as part of an ongoing project of clearing out. I usually end up buying books for the book groups I'm in - I'm going to try and avoid that this year. I'm not sure how successful that's likely to be!
Other than that, I'm recycling categories from last year:
Familiar Faces
New to me
Prizewinners
Women in translation
Graphic novels / manga
African Writers
History / Memoirs
Reading my own books
Plus books bought / books given away
Currently reading by category:
Familiar Faces
New to me My Cousin Rachel
Prizewinners The Forward book of Poetry 2024
Women in translation The Years
Graphic novels / manga N/A
African Writers House of Stone
History / Memoirs Some People Need Killing
Reading my own books A Woman Is No Man
The lovely beech tree in our back garden became unsafe last year, and has been dramatically chopped back to just a trunk. I'll be trying some new things in the garden to make the most of greater sunlight, and I've ordered a garden journal to try and track my successes (and the plants that don't make it).

After a pretty awful 2023, with lots of related grief-based and comfort reading, I'm looking forward to trying to get back with a bit more focus to my TBR pile in 2024. I'm going to track the books that come into the house (with some trepidation) as well as those that get donated on, as part of an ongoing project of clearing out. I usually end up buying books for the book groups I'm in - I'm going to try and avoid that this year. I'm not sure how successful that's likely to be!
Other than that, I'm recycling categories from last year:
Familiar Faces
New to me
Prizewinners
Women in translation
Graphic novels / manga
African Writers
History / Memoirs
Reading my own books
Plus books bought / books given away
Currently reading by category:
Familiar Faces
New to me My Cousin Rachel
Prizewinners The Forward book of Poetry 2024
Women in translation The Years
Graphic novels / manga N/A
African Writers House of Stone
History / Memoirs Some People Need Killing
Reading my own books A Woman Is No Man
2charl08
Familiar Faces
I've got foxglove seedlings I planted a couple of months ago, hoping they will survive to be successful in 2024

1. How to Rule an Empire and Get Away with it (fantasy)
2. Two Masquerades and a Major (romance)
3.The Vaster Wilds (Historical fiction)
4. Double or Nothing (romance)
5. The Bookseller of Inverness (Historical fiction)
6. Normal Rules Don't Apply (short stories)
7. Strictly Business (romance fiction)
8. Strictly Pleasure (ditto)
9. The Wake-Up Call (romcom)
New to me (authors I've not read before)

I do like it when the first bulbs come up.
1. The Pit (crime fiction)
2. Girlhood (poetry)
3. Persephone in bloom (romance fiction)
4. Devil's Breath (crime fiction)
5. The Invisible Web (crime fiction in translation)
6. Reykjavik (crime fiction in translation)
7. The Lazarus Solution (crime fiction in translation)
I've got foxglove seedlings I planted a couple of months ago, hoping they will survive to be successful in 2024

1. How to Rule an Empire and Get Away with it (fantasy)
2. Two Masquerades and a Major (romance)
3.The Vaster Wilds (Historical fiction)
4. Double or Nothing (romance)
5. The Bookseller of Inverness (Historical fiction)
6. Normal Rules Don't Apply (short stories)
7. Strictly Business (romance fiction)
8. Strictly Pleasure (ditto)
9. The Wake-Up Call (romcom)
New to me (authors I've not read before)

I do like it when the first bulbs come up.
1. The Pit (crime fiction)
2. Girlhood (poetry)
3. Persephone in bloom (romance fiction)
4. Devil's Breath (crime fiction)
5. The Invisible Web (crime fiction in translation)
6. Reykjavik (crime fiction in translation)
7. The Lazarus Solution (crime fiction in translation)
3charl08
Prizewinners
If I was going to give a prize to anything in my garden, I think it might be this miniature apple tree. If anyone has any unusual apple recipes, I'd love to hear them.

1. The Heaven and Earth Grocery Store (Pretty sure James McBride has a few awards on his shelf!)
2. The Treasure of the Spanish Civil War French original won Boccace Prize
3. Cahokia Jazz Author won the Costa First Novel Award, the RSL Ondaatje Prize and the Desmond Elliot Prize and was shortlisted for the Walter Scott Prize for Historical Fiction, the Rathbones Folio Prize.
If I was going to give a prize to anything in my garden, I think it might be this miniature apple tree. If anyone has any unusual apple recipes, I'd love to hear them.

1. The Heaven and Earth Grocery Store (Pretty sure James McBride has a few awards on his shelf!)
2. The Treasure of the Spanish Civil War French original won Boccace Prize
3. Cahokia Jazz Author won the Costa First Novel Award, the RSL Ondaatje Prize and the Desmond Elliot Prize and was shortlisted for the Walter Scott Prize for Historical Fiction, the Rathbones Folio Prize.
4charl08
Women in translation

1. What you are looking for is in the library (fiction, Japanese)
2. The Postcard (autofiction, French)
3. Deep Dark Blue (crime fiction, German - Switzerland)
4. Almond (YA, Korean)
5. Wound (Autofiction, Russian)

1. What you are looking for is in the library (fiction, Japanese)
2. The Postcard (autofiction, French)
3. Deep Dark Blue (crime fiction, German - Switzerland)
4. Almond (YA, Korean)
5. Wound (Autofiction, Russian)
5charl08
Graphic novels / manga
I love the vivid colour of these geranium

1. Hungry Ghost (YA)
2. Monica (horror?)
3. Insomniacs After School 2 (manga, YA)
4. Asadora 6 (manga)
5. Aya: Claws Come Out (GN)
6. Tsubaki Chou: Lonely Planet 6
7. Disaster Dates and Lucky Escapes
I love the vivid colour of these geranium

1. Hungry Ghost (YA)
2. Monica (horror?)
3. Insomniacs After School 2 (manga, YA)
4. Asadora 6 (manga)
5. Aya: Claws Come Out (GN)
6. Tsubaki Chou: Lonely Planet 6
7. Disaster Dates and Lucky Escapes
6charl08
African Writers
This kniphofia did not last long in the garden. I think too damp. But maybe this year?

1. So Distant from my Life (Burkina Faso)
To read from my shelves in this category:
The House of Hunger by Dambudzo Marechera
The First Woman
Palace Walk
The Cry of Winnie Mandela
Three Strong Women
Going Down River Road
Beyond The Rice Fields
Season of Crimson Blossoms
Segu
Tales of the Metric System
This Mournable Body
House of Stone
This kniphofia did not last long in the garden. I think too damp. But maybe this year?

1. So Distant from my Life (Burkina Faso)
To read from my shelves in this category:
The House of Hunger by Dambudzo Marechera
The First Woman
Palace Walk
The Cry of Winnie Mandela
Three Strong Women
Going Down River Road
Beyond The Rice Fields
Season of Crimson Blossoms
Segu
Tales of the Metric System
This Mournable Body
House of Stone
7charl08
History / Memoirs
I love these sweet peas. They smell amazing.

1. Still Pictures (essays / memoir / photography)
2. Shakespeare's Book (books about books)
3. Black Spartacus Biography
I love these sweet peas. They smell amazing.

1. Still Pictures (essays / memoir / photography)
2. Shakespeare's Book (books about books)
3. Black Spartacus Biography
8charl08
Reading my own books
Plus books bought / books given away

My own books read:
1. Still Pictures
2. Insomniacs After School 2
3. So Distant from my Life
4. Losing the Dead
5. Books and Islands in Ojibwe Country memoir
6. Dinosaurs fiction
7. The Love of Singular Men fiction in translation
8. The Treasure of the Spanish Civil War fiction in translation
Books bought:
January
Insomniacs After School 2 (manga) Blackwells
The Forward Prize 2024 (Poetry anthology) Blackwells
About Uncle Peirene subscription
Diary of an Invasion Bakewell buy
Tate Bookshop: Exhibition catalogue
Fell off the wagon at the LRB Bookshop

The Treasure of the Spanish Civil War
A Shining
Greek Lessons
A Strange Woman
Returning to Reims
Look We Have Coming to Dover
A Book Untitled
Merle, a Novella
February
And via the Minnesota History Society -
Survival Schools Julie L. Davis
Mothers United Andrea Dyrness
American Indians and the American Dream Kasey R. Keeler
Seven Aunts Staci Lola Drouillard
Reading Autobiography Now Sidonie Smith
Oxfam bookshop
Memoirs of Hadrian
Madwoman
Wrecked
The Lost Children Archives
Chinatown
Books given away:
Dinosaurs
The Love of Singular Men
Losing the Dead
A German Requiem
Plus books bought / books given away

My own books read:
1. Still Pictures
2. Insomniacs After School 2
3. So Distant from my Life
4. Losing the Dead
5. Books and Islands in Ojibwe Country memoir
6. Dinosaurs fiction
7. The Love of Singular Men fiction in translation
8. The Treasure of the Spanish Civil War fiction in translation
Books bought:
January
Insomniacs After School 2 (manga) Blackwells
The Forward Prize 2024 (Poetry anthology) Blackwells
About Uncle Peirene subscription
Diary of an Invasion Bakewell buy
Tate Bookshop: Exhibition catalogue
Fell off the wagon at the LRB Bookshop

The Treasure of the Spanish Civil War
A Shining
Greek Lessons
A Strange Woman
Returning to Reims
Look We Have Coming to Dover
A Book Untitled
Merle, a Novella
February
And via the Minnesota History Society -
Survival Schools Julie L. Davis
Mothers United Andrea Dyrness
American Indians and the American Dream Kasey R. Keeler
Seven Aunts Staci Lola Drouillard
Reading Autobiography Now Sidonie Smith
Oxfam bookshop
Memoirs of Hadrian
Madwoman
Wrecked
The Lost Children Archives
Chinatown
Books given away:
Dinosaurs
The Love of Singular Men
Losing the Dead
A German Requiem
9charl08
Read in January: 28
1. How to Rule an Empire and Get Away with it
2. Two Masquerades and a Major (romance)
3. Still Pictures
4. Hungry Ghost
5. The Wrong Person to Ask
6. Instacrush
7. Monica
8. Vaster Wilds
9. The Pit (crime, New to me)
10. Insomniacs After School 2
11. Strictly for Now
12. Shakespeare's Book
13. Girlhood
14. Persephone in Bloom
15. The Heaven and Earth Grocery Store
16. Double or Nothing
17. The Bookseller of Inverness
18. Asadora 6
19. Normal Rules Don't Apply
20. The Final Curtain
21. So Distant from my Life
22. Strictly Business
23. Strictly Pleasure
24. Devil's Breath
25. Black Spartacus
26. The Wake-up Call
27. Iron Lake
28. Strictly Not Yours
Library books read: 12
February 23 (51)
1. Losing the Dead
2. Aya: claws out
3. Books and Islands in Ojibwe Country
4. For Butter or Worse
5. Dinosaurs
6. A Man and his cat vol 2
7. Tom Lake
8. The Love of Singular Men
9. The Postcard
10. With you forever
11. Deep Dark Blue
12. The Treasure of the Spanish Civil War
13. Plot Twist
14. Cahokia Jazz
15. The Soldier (Windham)
16. The Invisible Web
17. Tsubaki Chou: Lonely Planet 6
18. Superstar: snowbound
19. Almond
20. Reykjavik
21. The Lazarus Solution
22. Disaster Dates and Lucky Escapes
23. Some People Need Killing
Library books read 10
March 3 (54)
1. Wound
2. The Tattoo Murder Case
3. Chenneville
Library books read this month: 3
Favourites from last year:
Prizewinners The Unseen (I think mostly because I heard the author speak at an online bookclub event.)
New to me authors Brown Girls (I love the collective voice approach she used - reminded me of Julie Otsuka.
Women in translation Ma is Scared (felt like a privilege to see into a community through these stories)
Reading my own books A Fortunate Woman (a fascinating, kind of, follow up to A fortunate man, highlighting the wonder that is the NHS).
Graphic Novels: Ducks: two years in the oil sands (not a light read, by any means, but shows what the format can do in terms of memoir).
History / Memoir Red Memory a book about the Chinese cultural revolution and how it still reverberates today and I Love Russia, journalism about Russia today. I covet a paper copy for both books.






1. How to Rule an Empire and Get Away with it
2. Two Masquerades and a Major (romance)
3. Still Pictures
4. Hungry Ghost
5. The Wrong Person to Ask
6. Instacrush
7. Monica
8. Vaster Wilds
9. The Pit (crime, New to me)
10. Insomniacs After School 2
11. Strictly for Now
12. Shakespeare's Book
13. Girlhood
14. Persephone in Bloom
15. The Heaven and Earth Grocery Store
16. Double or Nothing
17. The Bookseller of Inverness
18. Asadora 6
19. Normal Rules Don't Apply
20. The Final Curtain
21. So Distant from my Life
22. Strictly Business
23. Strictly Pleasure
24. Devil's Breath
25. Black Spartacus
26. The Wake-up Call
27. Iron Lake
28. Strictly Not Yours
Library books read: 12
February 23 (51)
1. Losing the Dead
2. Aya: claws out
3. Books and Islands in Ojibwe Country
4. For Butter or Worse
5. Dinosaurs
6. A Man and his cat vol 2
7. Tom Lake
8. The Love of Singular Men
9. The Postcard
10. With you forever
11. Deep Dark Blue
12. The Treasure of the Spanish Civil War
13. Plot Twist
14. Cahokia Jazz
15. The Soldier (Windham)
16. The Invisible Web
17. Tsubaki Chou: Lonely Planet 6
18. Superstar: snowbound
19. Almond
20. Reykjavik
21. The Lazarus Solution
22. Disaster Dates and Lucky Escapes
23. Some People Need Killing
Library books read 10
March 3 (54)
1. Wound
2. The Tattoo Murder Case
3. Chenneville
Library books read this month: 3
Favourites from last year:
Prizewinners The Unseen (I think mostly because I heard the author speak at an online bookclub event.)
New to me authors Brown Girls (I love the collective voice approach she used - reminded me of Julie Otsuka.
Women in translation Ma is Scared (felt like a privilege to see into a community through these stories)
Reading my own books A Fortunate Woman (a fascinating, kind of, follow up to A fortunate man, highlighting the wonder that is the NHS).
Graphic Novels: Ducks: two years in the oil sands (not a light read, by any means, but shows what the format can do in terms of memoir).
History / Memoir Red Memory a book about the Chinese cultural revolution and how it still reverberates today and I Love Russia, journalism about Russia today. I covet a paper copy for both books.






10rabbitprincess
Beautiful photos, Charlotte! Welcome back to the group :) I hope you find some lovely blooms in the TBR garden as well as your real garden.
12mdoris
Hello Charlotte. I definitely have you starred and love the garden theme and love all the gorgeous plant photos. Stunning! Wishing you a very good 2024 with lots of wonderful reading.
13Helenliz
Happy new year, Charlotte.
Hoping to follow along for another interesting year of reading.
Hoping to follow along for another interesting year of reading.
18MissBrangwen
Beautiful pictures of your garden! I'm looking forward to following along here.
20FAMeulstee
Love the theme, Charlotte, roses will always be my favorite flower.
I hope your gardening in the changed circumstances will be succesful, it is so sad when a tree has to be chopped back. Our cedar tree in the front garden was seriously trimmed two years back, after two large branches had come down. Luckely it is still alive and doing well, but it was hard to watch the trimming...
I hope your gardening in the changed circumstances will be succesful, it is so sad when a tree has to be chopped back. Our cedar tree in the front garden was seriously trimmed two years back, after two large branches had come down. Luckely it is still alive and doing well, but it was hard to watch the trimming...
21Caroline_McElwee
Happy New Year Charlotte. I hope it will be a good year for you.
23DeltaQueen50
Enjoy your 2024 reading and I hope you have a happier year ahead of you.
24lowelibrary
Lovely pictures. I have a black thumb, so no gardening for me. Good luck with your reading in 2024.
25Familyhistorian
What beautiful photos you've used for your categories, Charlotte. I hope 2024 turns out to be a good year for you!
26BLBera
Happy New Year, Charlotte. I was wondering what you would do for a theme. Great list of favorites.
27vancouverdeb
I love your flower theme, Charlotte. We have a few flowers breaking ground , maybe heather , though that seems at little early. Poppy and I were out walking this afternoon and it smelled lovely out. It was damp but sunny day. Happy New Year and Happy New Thread.
28Caroline_McElwee
Forgot to say, loving the garden photos Charlotte.
30charl08
>10 rabbitprincess: Thanks RP. Wishing you well with your studies in 2024.
>11 katiekrug: Thanks Katie.
>12 mdoris: Thanks Mary. The flowers seem a long way away at the moment, but I did see some bulbs coming up on my way to work this morning, so...
>11 katiekrug: Thanks Katie.
>12 mdoris: Thanks Mary. The flowers seem a long way away at the moment, but I did see some bulbs coming up on my way to work this morning, so...
31charl08
>13 Helenliz: Thanks Helen.
>14 Jackie_K: Thanks Jackie. I found your thread, I'll try and be better at keeping up this year.
>15 bell7: Wasn't it great, Mary? I will follow along in 24, wondering how you manage to fit it all in!
>14 Jackie_K: Thanks Jackie. I found your thread, I'll try and be better at keeping up this year.
>15 bell7: Wasn't it great, Mary? I will follow along in 24, wondering how you manage to fit it all in!
32charl08
>16 Tess_W: Thanks Tess.
>17 VivienneR: Thanks Vivienne.
>18 MissBrangwen: Thanks Mirjam.
>19 Ameise1: Thanks Barbara - I've not found your 2024 thread yet!
>17 VivienneR: Thanks Vivienne.
>18 MissBrangwen: Thanks Mirjam.
>19 Ameise1: Thanks Barbara - I've not found your 2024 thread yet!
33charl08
>20 FAMeulstee: Yes, I loved the tree - but when the tree surgeons came they pointed to internal rot so it was a good job we got it sorted. We back on to a house with regular grandchildren visiting, and some kind of accident would be awful.
>21 Caroline_McElwee: >28 Caroline_McElwee: Thanks Caroline.
>22 hailelib: I love yellow roses - this one is a bit of a prima donna though - always gets chewed by something or other.
>23 DeltaQueen50: Me too! Thank you.
>21 Caroline_McElwee: >28 Caroline_McElwee: Thanks Caroline.
>22 hailelib: I love yellow roses - this one is a bit of a prima donna though - always gets chewed by something or other.
>23 DeltaQueen50: Me too! Thank you.
34charl08
>24 lowelibrary: Many of my plants don't survive. The latest losses are two acers which I loved but didn't check out the winter care required...
>25 Familyhistorian: Thanks Meg.
>26 BLBera: Thanks Beth. Any excuse to wheel out my garden photos...
>27 vancouverdeb: Glad you had a good walk Deborah. It had just rained and rained and rained here. Grump.
>25 Familyhistorian: Thanks Meg.
>26 BLBera: Thanks Beth. Any excuse to wheel out my garden photos...
>27 vancouverdeb: Glad you had a good walk Deborah. It had just rained and rained and rained here. Grump.
36charl08
>35 susanj67: Hi Susan, and to you. Setting up the thread has made me keen to get outside and start doing something. Going to try and remember I need to plan first though.
Finished some books.
1. How to Rule an Empire and Get Away with it
Second in the comic fantasy series set inside a siege. In this one an actor is asked to impersonate a leader to keep 'the people' happy. Unexpected consequences ensue.
2. Two Masquerades and a Major (romance)
Eloisa James doing paint by numbers here, I thought. OK, but felt a bit formulaic.
3. Still Pictures
Janet Malcolm explores her own past through snapshots taken by her parents and the family. I had no idea Malcolm and her parents escaped Prague to live in New York - I think I had just assumed her family had arrived in the US generations before. I do like the way Malcolm reflects on her experiences generally, so this was firmly in my wheelhouse.
Finished some books.
1. How to Rule an Empire and Get Away with it
Second in the comic fantasy series set inside a siege. In this one an actor is asked to impersonate a leader to keep 'the people' happy. Unexpected consequences ensue.
2. Two Masquerades and a Major (romance)
Eloisa James doing paint by numbers here, I thought. OK, but felt a bit formulaic.
3. Still Pictures
Janet Malcolm explores her own past through snapshots taken by her parents and the family. I had no idea Malcolm and her parents escaped Prague to live in New York - I think I had just assumed her family had arrived in the US generations before. I do like the way Malcolm reflects on her experiences generally, so this was firmly in my wheelhouse.
37Caroline_McElwee
>36 charl08: I've been meaning to get the Janet Malcolm volume Charlotte, you've just nudged it back onto my list.
38mdoris
Charlotte, you are right the garden is very quiet and sort of shabby these days but I do have some struggling blooms happening on my Christmas Cheer rhodo. They are pink and amazing to be blooming now (hence the name I guess!).
39Berly

Happy New Year!! LOVE all your flower photos and I know you'll enjoy filling out the categories. Congrats on 3 books already!
40charl08
>37 Caroline_McElwee: I couldn't get into it before the break but was relieved that the holiday gave me enough brainspace to do so.
>38 mdoris: A bloom at this time of year is not to be sneezed at! I have one Christmas rose doing well in the front but the back ones are not distinguishing themselves yet. My mum liked these plants so put white and also some reddish ones in.
https://www.rhs.org.uk/plants/hellebore
>39 Berly: Thanks Kim. Hope you are feeling fully recovered. Always amazed at your positivity: thank you.
>38 mdoris: A bloom at this time of year is not to be sneezed at! I have one Christmas rose doing well in the front but the back ones are not distinguishing themselves yet. My mum liked these plants so put white and also some reddish ones in.
https://www.rhs.org.uk/plants/hellebore
>39 Berly: Thanks Kim. Hope you are feeling fully recovered. Always amazed at your positivity: thank you.
41charl08
What you are looking for is in the library
(Women in translation category)
I can see this has mixed reviews on the book pages. For me it hit just right, a gentle reflection on what books (and community connections) have to offer us. Each chapter is told from the perspective of a different visitor to the library, so I could see would be accessible to busy readers with small chunks of reading time.
I especially liked that the books mentioned in the text are listed in more detail at the end of the book.
(Women in translation category)
I can see this has mixed reviews on the book pages. For me it hit just right, a gentle reflection on what books (and community connections) have to offer us. Each chapter is told from the perspective of a different visitor to the library, so I could see would be accessible to busy readers with small chunks of reading time.
I especially liked that the books mentioned in the text are listed in more detail at the end of the book.
Our order arrives. Chie is having tempura soba while I have a bowl of udon noodles with seasoned deep-fried tofu.
I hear books aren't selling as well any more, and bookshops are disappearing, I say conversationally, holding the tofu under the broth with my chopsticks to soak up the flavours.
Chie's face clouds over. 'Stop it. When everybody says that, as if they know what they're talking about, it turns into a trend. Books will always be essential for some people. And book- shops are a place for those people to discover the books that will become important to them. I will never allow bookshops to vanish from this world,' she finishes, noisily sucking up a mouthful of soba.
42MissBrangwen
>41 charl08: I love the passage you quoted, and it also made me hungry ;-)
43dudes22
>41 charl08: - I just saw this in a catalogue I got and was thinking of ordering it. But I haven't looked at any of the reviews yet.
44lowelibrary
>41 charl08: Taking a BB for this one. I also believe "Books will always be essential for some people"
45charl08
>42 MissBrangwen: There are some lovely bits about books.
>43 dudes22: I loved it, fwiw!
>44 lowelibrary: You won't hear any arguments from me!
>43 dudes22: I loved it, fwiw!
>44 lowelibrary: You won't hear any arguments from me!
46charl08
Hungry Ghost
A sad, but ultimately positive, YA GN from the perspective of a high schooler with an eating disorder. Beautifully drawn.
A sad, but ultimately positive, YA GN from the perspective of a high schooler with an eating disorder. Beautifully drawn.
47mdoris
>40 charl08: Hi Charlotte, I had a meander in the garden today and purple and pink primula were blooming. i was shocked and some huge buds of the hellebore are popping up, a vibrant pink. i can hardly wait! A few weeks ago i cleared the mess of clematis and they are starting to bud. It all seems early but we had sunshine today and it was glorious.
48charl08
>47 mdoris: Wow, that does seem early. It has been so wet and miserable here I'm mostly looking at the garden through the window.
49BLBera
Well, you are starting off well, Charlotte. The Janet Malcolm sounds great.
>41 charl08: I am waiting for this from the library. I'm looking forward to it.
>46 charl08: This looks beautiful.
>41 charl08: I am waiting for this from the library. I'm looking forward to it.
>46 charl08: This looks beautiful.
50MissWatson
It's great to see you're back. Lovely pictures!
51charl08
>49 BLBera: Hope it comes soon, Beth (or perhaps, hope it comes at a good time?)
>50 MissWatson: Thanks! Always amazed how organised everyone is with their categories. Mine are not so well planned.
>50 MissWatson: Thanks! Always amazed how organised everyone is with their categories. Mine are not so well planned.
52charl08
5. The Wrong Person to Ask
Poetry - new to me
A collection of poems exploring the author's Iranian-American heritage, and also her work with Scottish coastal communities.
6. Instacrush (familiar faces)
More fictional hockey pairing up. The P&P nods were a fun touch.
7. Monica (GN)
This wasbatshit crazy in my humble opinion too genre-bending for me to follow the narrative. I have no idea what I just read. Jumps from apocalyptic visions to horror to a more conventional account of one woman's search for her mother who may have joined a cult.

Poetry - new to me
A collection of poems exploring the author's Iranian-American heritage, and also her work with Scottish coastal communities.
6. Instacrush (familiar faces)
More fictional hockey pairing up. The P&P nods were a fun touch.
Amy poured out the coffee. "But he didn't have to pay anything at all. That says something. And then he hopped a plane here in the middle of the playoffs to fix my problem. Kind of like Darcy bailing out Wickham." Her face registered shock. "Aw, hell, am I Lydia?"
7. Monica (GN)
This was

53charl08
From The Wrong Person to Ask
Home
Mysterious lonely apple tree on uninhabited Hebridean island baffles scientists
This, I understand: the instinct to cling,
at any cost, to the place you are rooted,
to see another season through, though
the others seed elsewhere; your own young
move with tides and summer squalls.
Full poem:
https://marjorielotfi.com/poetry/
Home
Mysterious lonely apple tree on uninhabited Hebridean island baffles scientists
This, I understand: the instinct to cling,
at any cost, to the place you are rooted,
to see another season through, though
the others seed elsewhere; your own young
move with tides and summer squalls.
Full poem:
https://marjorielotfi.com/poetry/
54Zozette
Happy reading. I am most interested in your Women in Translation and you History categories.
55vancouverdeb
I like your comments on Monica Charlotte. They have me laughing.
56charl08
>54 Zozette: I'm hoping to read more in both those categories this year: fingers crossed. Feel free to nudge me if I don't though.
>55 vancouverdeb: It was such a surreal read. I'm trying to get my brother to read it so he can explain it to me.
>55 vancouverdeb: It was such a surreal read. I'm trying to get my brother to read it so he can explain it to me.
57charl08
The Vaster Wilds
A nature-filled historical novel. A young woman escapes from a colonial settlement trying to make for a better life. The many reasons she has made such an extreme choice become clearer as she runs, chased by imaginary terrors and real predators.
I think I will remember this book for how vulnerable the protagonist is, even though she's going through such an extreme experience. There are beautiful descriptions of nature, and a continuing theme of the impact of the new(ish) invaders on the natural environment.
A nature-filled historical novel. A young woman escapes from a colonial settlement trying to make for a better life. The many reasons she has made such an extreme choice become clearer as she runs, chased by imaginary terrors and real predators.
I think I will remember this book for how vulnerable the protagonist is, even though she's going through such an extreme experience. There are beautiful descriptions of nature, and a continuing theme of the impact of the new(ish) invaders on the natural environment.
And now it came up, came near; and there was something in the shining glimpse, the liquid black eye of the fish gazing up at her as it passed out of the shadow into the light, that made her say, Yes, aloud, and gasp. There was an element in the trembling intensity of this vision so unlike the other most dazzling moments of her life that, for a breath, it pierced the little cloud of dullness in which she normally moved through her days. And it seemed to her that she could almost see something now moving beneath the every- day, the daily, the gray and oppressive stuff of the self, something more like an intricate geometry that lived beneath the surface of the material world. And this swift and gorgeous and too-rare strike to the heart was just like when one of the goldsmith's apprentices beat and beat at a tiny lump of gold until all across the marble table on which they worked an astonishing thin leaf of gold spread outward; the vividest moments were when the leaf gently tore and one could see the cold sharp veins of the marble before the leaf was healed again by beating.(Familiar faces)
After this moment, she found herself ever so slightly changed.
58BLBera
I loved The Vaster Wilds as well, Charlotte, for the poetic language, wonderful descriptions of nature. I thought Groff did a wonderful job keeping me reading, following one girl's flight...When one describes this novel, it doesn't sound all that exciting.
I am adding The Wrong Person to Ask to my WL. I loved your description of Monica; I'll pass on that one.
I am adding The Wrong Person to Ask to my WL. I loved your description of Monica; I'll pass on that one.
59Helenliz
>52 charl08: if it's too way out for you, I'm steering well clear!
>57 charl08: however, that one is more tempting.
>57 charl08: however, that one is more tempting.
60MissWatson
>57 charl08: The author's name looks familiar, I think I saw one of her books at the charity shop. Maybe I'll take the plunge...
61charl08
>58 BLBera: I enjoyed it, Beth. Hard to imagine what it must have been like so far from "civilisation" but Groff managed it.
>59 Helenliz: I'd be keen to hear from anyone who did like Monica - I don't think I've sold it to my brother.
I really liked Groff's previous book about a medieval abbess, so was predisposed to be positive I think.
>60 MissWatson: I've only read two of her historical novels (including the one reviewed here) but did really like them.
Despite trying to cut back my "currently reading" pile before the 1st Jan it's bulging again:
Shakespeare's book : the intertwined lives behind the First Folio - I didn't manage to get this read before the end of my holidays, and it's a bit of a tome. I just read a chapter about the bookshops - just love the idea of going to a bookshop 'by the sign of (e.g.) the Fox'. (History)
My cousin Rachel This was a bookgroup book, I don't like it, and I haven't finished it.
The Postcard This is lovely - thanks to everyone who recommended it. (Women in Translation)
Writing for busy readers : communicate more effectively in the real world Work book. So far, so very obvious. Hoping it gets more revelatory as it goes on.
Berthe Morisot: Shaping Impressionism Beautiful book. Could just sit and look at the pictures.
Black Spartacus: The Epic Life of Toussaint Louverture 43%! We've just got into a very bloody inter-rebel coup. The author is clearly a fan but I'm not sure Louverture is as principled as he wants me to believe. (History)
Haven't picked up for a bit:
Poetry Unbound: 50 Poems to Open Your World
The Neverending Quest for the Other Shore: An Epic in Three Cantos (Wesleyan Poetry Series)
The Story of Art without Men
Four Thousand Weeks: Time and How to Use It
A Woman Is No Man: A Novel
Reading Shakespeare's Sonnets: A New Commentary I think I'm going to give this the push.
Books and Islands in Ojibwe Country: Traveling Through the Land of My Ancestors I can't find this! Argh! (Memoir)
>59 Helenliz: I'd be keen to hear from anyone who did like Monica - I don't think I've sold it to my brother.
I really liked Groff's previous book about a medieval abbess, so was predisposed to be positive I think.
>60 MissWatson: I've only read two of her historical novels (including the one reviewed here) but did really like them.
Despite trying to cut back my "currently reading" pile before the 1st Jan it's bulging again:
Shakespeare's book : the intertwined lives behind the First Folio - I didn't manage to get this read before the end of my holidays, and it's a bit of a tome. I just read a chapter about the bookshops - just love the idea of going to a bookshop 'by the sign of (e.g.) the Fox'. (History)
My cousin Rachel This was a bookgroup book, I don't like it, and I haven't finished it.
The Postcard This is lovely - thanks to everyone who recommended it. (Women in Translation)
Writing for busy readers : communicate more effectively in the real world Work book. So far, so very obvious. Hoping it gets more revelatory as it goes on.
Berthe Morisot: Shaping Impressionism Beautiful book. Could just sit and look at the pictures.
Black Spartacus: The Epic Life of Toussaint Louverture 43%! We've just got into a very bloody inter-rebel coup. The author is clearly a fan but I'm not sure Louverture is as principled as he wants me to believe. (History)
Haven't picked up for a bit:
Poetry Unbound: 50 Poems to Open Your World
The Neverending Quest for the Other Shore: An Epic in Three Cantos (Wesleyan Poetry Series)
The Story of Art without Men
Four Thousand Weeks: Time and How to Use It
A Woman Is No Man: A Novel
Reading Shakespeare's Sonnets: A New Commentary I think I'm going to give this the push.
Books and Islands in Ojibwe Country: Traveling Through the Land of My Ancestors I can't find this! Argh! (Memoir)
62Berly
I just finished Vaster Wilds earlier this month -- for a book that doesn't have much action, I thought it was a page turner!
>61 charl08: Have fun with your January currently reading list! No pressure at all! LOL.
>61 charl08: Have fun with your January currently reading list! No pressure at all! LOL.
63charl08
Thanks Kim. I did like it a lot, but I'm very confident I would not survive in that period!
64BLBera
>61 charl08: Good luck with that. I don't know how you do. I can only manage one, or maybe two, at a time.
65charl08
>64 BLBera: Mostly I ignore them and read something else. I finished The Pit last night, which was (kind of) Australian crime. Except it was more like a shaggy dog story by the end of the book. A good, absorbing read though.
ETA it was definitely Australian, the kind of was in reference to the "crime" bit.
ETA it was definitely Australian, the kind of was in reference to the "crime" bit.
66charl08
I bought some more books which arrived this week:
Insomniacs After School 2 (manga)
The Forward Prize 2024 (Poetry anthology)
And my Peirene subscription came through: About Uncle
Insomniacs After School 2 (manga)
The Forward Prize 2024 (Poetry anthology)
And my Peirene subscription came through: About Uncle
67charl08
I finished the historical chunkster Shakespeare's Book. There's lots of fascinating insight here into how the First Folio was put together. This ranges from the personal connections between the printers/ publishers to the actual physical process of putting a book together. It's not the first time I've thought that I wish there was a way to check out the book stalls around St Paul's. I didn't know that the Frankfurt book fair was already running at the time of the First Folio, so I'm adding that to my time travel wishlist.
As the sources can be frustratingly incomplete, the author's arguments often are 'possible' rather than anything more than this. He believes Shakespeare may have been trying to put a folio together at the time of his death, and creates a picture of the different compositors who worked on the folio (despite acknowledging that theories vary). I thought he was particularly good at explaining the different possible influences on the 'original' plays Shakespeare wrote, from the actors who inherited the scripts to the changing censorship laws, changes made due to revivals of the original plays and political sensitivities, to the compositors trying to get the whole play on a set number of pages. I loved the reproductions of the existing copies of the folios, where people had annotated the plays (in one case, with whether they knew the actors or not). The bit at the end about the ways the folios had been used by colonial governors to prop up colonial education projects felt a bit tacked on, but I can imagine this could be easily picked up in other texts.
Personal side note: My dad did his apprenticeship as a compositor, and I still find it mad that he recognises the tools used (and illustrated in this book as 17th century practice) from his own training - and yet the profession died shortly after he trained, replaced by computers. Laoutaris even puts compositor in inverted commas, as if it is some kind of strange, historical term rather than a respected part of the printing trade for hundreds of years. I found that a bit odd.
As the sources can be frustratingly incomplete, the author's arguments often are 'possible' rather than anything more than this. He believes Shakespeare may have been trying to put a folio together at the time of his death, and creates a picture of the different compositors who worked on the folio (despite acknowledging that theories vary). I thought he was particularly good at explaining the different possible influences on the 'original' plays Shakespeare wrote, from the actors who inherited the scripts to the changing censorship laws, changes made due to revivals of the original plays and political sensitivities, to the compositors trying to get the whole play on a set number of pages. I loved the reproductions of the existing copies of the folios, where people had annotated the plays (in one case, with whether they knew the actors or not). The bit at the end about the ways the folios had been used by colonial governors to prop up colonial education projects felt a bit tacked on, but I can imagine this could be easily picked up in other texts.
Personal side note: My dad did his apprenticeship as a compositor, and I still find it mad that he recognises the tools used (and illustrated in this book as 17th century practice) from his own training - and yet the profession died shortly after he trained, replaced by computers. Laoutaris even puts compositor in inverted commas, as if it is some kind of strange, historical term rather than a respected part of the printing trade for hundreds of years. I found that a bit odd.
68BLBera
>67 charl08: This sounds fascinating, Charlotte. I really enjoy reading books about Shakespeare's work. I need to get back to some of the books I have on my shelves.
69vancouverdeb
Oh, more books! That is always good fun. I got three new books this week, though I have not listed them on my thread. My mom and I headed out to bigger bookstore in Downtown Vancouver on Wednesday, and I found a couple of bargain books, and then ordered one from amazon. My mom turned 83 today, so in part we went together as sort a gift to my mom, as she is not so keen to venture downtown on her own. She found a couple of books as well, and this week I will go over and help her order a book or two online, as she does not know how to purchase stuff online. Then we have a dinner out planned for the following week at an Italian restaurant that she requested.
70charl08
>68 BLBera: The touchstones pull up so many options, there's clearly lots to choose from. Any you would recommend? Or are planning to pick up first?
>69 vancouverdeb: Sounds like a lovely outing Deborah. I used to love going to second hand bookshops with my parents. (My brother and sister missed the gene though!)
>69 vancouverdeb: Sounds like a lovely outing Deborah. I used to love going to second hand bookshops with my parents. (My brother and sister missed the gene though!)
71Caroline_McElwee
>67 charl08: Fascinating Charlotte. I did a compositing course in my early 20s (many moons ago). And do you remember those kids printing sets?
72charl08
>71 Caroline_McElwee: I had to look up the printing sets. How cool! Had a spirograph though....
73charl08
Finished Girlhood. This poetry collection didn't really grab me. Half is very personal, autobiographical, and half inspired by Lacan's founding case. I know next to nothing about Lacan, and this didn't really work for me, for the most part.
I did like this one, though the more I read it the more I think it creepy. Lacan speaks to ask for cooperation in "An appeal to the patient".
A detailed review (and full poem) here:
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/may/14/girlhood-julia-copus-review-poetry
I did like this one, though the more I read it the more I think it creepy. Lacan speaks to ask for cooperation in "An appeal to the patient".
Since you remain reluctant, let us imagine
that one's selfhood is a work of art - a maquette
in clay, as may be, and each life event
enacted by the sculptor. In he creeps
to the damp-room on his crepe-soled shoes
again and again. In time the work proceeds via a series of flukes and inspirations...
A detailed review (and full poem) here:
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/may/14/girlhood-julia-copus-review-poetry
74BLBera
I was just looking at my shelves:
I have a couple of Marjorie Garber books
the Bill Bryson "biography"
Soul of the Age
A Thousand Times more Fair
Lectures on Shakespeare
and a couple more
I was thinking of reading through the plays chronologically and then reading the commentary on the play after. That would probably be a lifetime project.
I have a couple of Marjorie Garber books
the Bill Bryson "biography"
Soul of the Age
A Thousand Times more Fair
Lectures on Shakespeare
and a couple more
I was thinking of reading through the plays chronologically and then reading the commentary on the play after. That would probably be a lifetime project.
75charl08
Plenty to be going on with then! I just looked up Marjorie Garber. Went from thinking "I don't have time for more Shakespeare" to "Shakespeare in Bloomsbury has such a lovely cover..."!!!
76charl08
14. Persephone in Bloom
First in a romance series riffing off classical themes. I'm not generally a fan of office politics in this genre (as in RL) so not sure I'll pick up the next one.
15. The Heaven and Earth Grocery Store
I loved this, rich historical fiction centred on one Jewish couple's life in small town Pennsylvania in the early 20th century.
There's a murder mystery topping and tailing the book, but blink and you'll miss it. At a couple of points McBride leaves the story and points out the future, and its clear that he's not a fan, or a believer that modern readers should be comforting themselves thar things are "better now", from phones to discrimination. It reminded me of Dickens (and I mean that as a positive).
This week I signed up for a career mentoring programme aimed at people who've done a doc. I went to my first online videocall last night and it felt really positive, a chance to hear others experiences. Hoping this will help give me the motivation to develop my thoughts beyond "is this it?!".
First in a romance series riffing off classical themes. I'm not generally a fan of office politics in this genre (as in RL) so not sure I'll pick up the next one.
15. The Heaven and Earth Grocery Store
I loved this, rich historical fiction centred on one Jewish couple's life in small town Pennsylvania in the early 20th century.
There's a murder mystery topping and tailing the book, but blink and you'll miss it. At a couple of points McBride leaves the story and points out the future, and its clear that he's not a fan, or a believer that modern readers should be comforting themselves thar things are "better now", from phones to discrimination. It reminded me of Dickens (and I mean that as a positive).
her beautiful face shining in the sunlight that glowed into the store window, the light bouncing off the fruit and vegetables and cascading into the corners of the Heaven & Earth Grocery Store, illuminating the peppers and carrots, the Saltines and apple peelers, making life seem as full and new and fresh as the promise of Pennsylvania had once been for so many of those standing about who had come up from the South to the North, a land of supposed good, clean freedom, where a man could be a man and a woman could be a woman, instead of the reality where they now stood, a tight cluster of homes enclosed by the filth of factories that belched bitter smoke into a gray sky and tight yards filled with goats and chickens in a part of town no one wanted, in homes with no running water or bathrooms. Living like they were down home. Except they weren't down home. They were up home. And it was the same.
This week I signed up for a career mentoring programme aimed at people who've done a doc. I went to my first online videocall last night and it felt really positive, a chance to hear others experiences. Hoping this will help give me the motivation to develop my thoughts beyond "is this it?!".
77katiekrug
I've liked all the books by McBride that I've read and have THaEGS firmly on my radar. Glad it worked so well for you.
The career mentoring program sounds interesting. I'm glad your first experience of it was positive!
The career mentoring program sounds interesting. I'm glad your first experience of it was positive!
78charl08
Thanks Katie.
I was surprised to get the McBride so quickly from the library (less surprised I had to return it shortly after!).
I was surprised to get the McBride so quickly from the library (less surprised I had to return it shortly after!).
79Tess_W
>76 charl08: I have the McBride book on my TBR and hope to get to it in 2024. I'm glad you liked it.
80charl08
>79 Tess_W: I was glad someone else requesting it gave me the push to pick it up and read it from the pile.
I read a few books this weekend, despite managing to get out and do a walk in a scenic part of Lancashire. Separately had a catch up with a friend over a rather nice scone. Her teenager claimed to have PTSD over the beach walk we went on last year, which made me laugh (we got lost and went a bit further than we meant to, but it really wasn't that bad!)
16. Double or Nothing (Familiar faces)
I seem to be working my way through this author's (romance fiction) backlist. Helped by the fact she's on kindle unlimited so I don't have to pay (or wait) to read them. I like that they feel nothing like anywhere I know!
17. The Bookseller of Inverness (Familiar faces)
I really like this author, especially her "Seeker" series which managed to make me feel vaguely sympathetic to those involved in the Commonwealth after the English Civil War. Also helped that the narrator did a good Sean Bean impression on the audio book. This one is set in Scotland after Culloden. The book uses a murder mystery as the hook to show a divided Inverness (and the country beyond) under the English cosh. Collaborators and spies are everywhere.
In the acknowledgements she mentions a large secondhand bookshop in Inverness which I'm adding to my 'want to go' list.
18. Asadora 6 GN/ manga
This felt like a bit of a filler episode - Asadora is told to watch the radio, and the monster barely appears...
19. Normal Rules Don't Apply (Familiar faces)
Weird short stories from Kate Atkinson, with lots of apocalyptic events thrown in (or possibly the same ones, as there are links between the stories). I think my favourite one was the talking horse who convinced the story's narrator to bet upon him. Less Mr Ed than it sounds with me explaining it.
I read a few books this weekend, despite managing to get out and do a walk in a scenic part of Lancashire. Separately had a catch up with a friend over a rather nice scone. Her teenager claimed to have PTSD over the beach walk we went on last year, which made me laugh (we got lost and went a bit further than we meant to, but it really wasn't that bad!)
16. Double or Nothing (Familiar faces)
I seem to be working my way through this author's (romance fiction) backlist. Helped by the fact she's on kindle unlimited so I don't have to pay (or wait) to read them. I like that they feel nothing like anywhere I know!
17. The Bookseller of Inverness (Familiar faces)
I really like this author, especially her "Seeker" series which managed to make me feel vaguely sympathetic to those involved in the Commonwealth after the English Civil War. Also helped that the narrator did a good Sean Bean impression on the audio book. This one is set in Scotland after Culloden. The book uses a murder mystery as the hook to show a divided Inverness (and the country beyond) under the English cosh. Collaborators and spies are everywhere.
In the acknowledgements she mentions a large secondhand bookshop in Inverness which I'm adding to my 'want to go' list.
if you could not hide a secret here, then where? The loch was so long, and so deep and so dark that a man might go in and the waters pass over him so that it was as if he had never been. Who would see? The mountains looking down from either side were silent, immovable, and the glens and peoples they hid might almost be unguessed at. For a moment lain had the mad thought that they would get to the other side of the loch and discover that nothing of the past years had ever been no rising, no marching, no battles, no vengeance, no loss.
18. Asadora 6 GN/ manga
This felt like a bit of a filler episode - Asadora is told to watch the radio, and the monster barely appears...
19. Normal Rules Don't Apply (Familiar faces)
Weird short stories from Kate Atkinson, with lots of apocalyptic events thrown in (or possibly the same ones, as there are links between the stories). I think my favourite one was the talking horse who convinced the story's narrator to bet upon him. Less Mr Ed than it sounds with me explaining it.
if they knew that the end was nigh, they would relish what of life was left or they would just have another meeting about it. If she was in charge (she was, she reminded herself), she would do away with meetings, do away with offices, for that matter, and let everyone work from home. How would you go about that? she wondered.
81Jackie_K
>80 charl08: We went on holiday near Inverness in 2019, a few months before lockdown, and visited both the city (it's lovely, I really liked it and would love to explore it some more) and Culloden, which was very moving. It's a gorgeous part of the world. The bookshop you mention is Leakey's, which was great, it's in a converted church building so very atmospheric. It doesn't *quite* reach Barter Books levels in my affections, but it is still a very excellent place that is well worth a visit.
82charl08
>81 Jackie_K: I definitely want to visit! Maybe I can persuade someone into a camping trip north.
Pleasingly, I returned several books this morning and picked up one that Anita recommended by Hans Böll. It has come from fiction reserve and looks like it has been well-read in the past.
Finished (I think?) the Kaga crime series set in Tokyo with The Final Curtain. Rather bleak, but absorbing. One of the themes throughout the book is the inept record-keeping, corruption and poor worker care od the nuclear industry over the past forty years.
Pleasingly, I returned several books this morning and picked up one that Anita recommended by Hans Böll. It has come from fiction reserve and looks like it has been well-read in the past.
Finished (I think?) the Kaga crime series set in Tokyo with The Final Curtain. Rather bleak, but absorbing. One of the themes throughout the book is the inept record-keeping, corruption and poor worker care od the nuclear industry over the past forty years.
His alarm?"
"Yeah. We have these gadgets that tell you when you've had your quota of radiation exposure for the day. You'd never get the job done if you paid any attention to the stupid things so we had our own little workarounds. Looking back on it, probably wasn't the smartest thing to do! Anyway, what's old Yokoyama up to these days?"
"We don't know. That's what we're trying to find out."
"Hope he's hale and hearty-but I doubt he is."
"Why do you say that?"
"Because we're the dregs."
"The dregs?"
"Fuel ain't the only thing nuclear power stations need. Those places, they eat up uranium, but they also eat up people. That's how they keep going. Oh yeah, they need their human sacrifices. We manual laborers, we have the life sucked out of us. You can see it. Just look at me. I'm scrap, scum, leftovers."
83Familyhistorian
The mentoring program sounds good, Charlotte. I hope it continues to be. Two of your recent reads grabbed me, the K. J. Parker books and The Bookseller of Inverness. I agree with Jackie, Culloden was very moving and I didn't get to spend nearly enough time there when I visited that part of Scotland.
84Berly
The Heaven and Earth Grocery Store is on my list to get to this year!! Hope the mentoring program turns out to be a gem.
85charl08
>83 Familyhistorian: Thanks Meg. I think you'd like the Inverness book, lots of historical detail. I don't think I've ever been to Culloden.
>84 Berly: Thanks Kim. Hope you get to the McBride, it's a great one.
>84 Berly: Thanks Kim. Hope you get to the McBride, it's a great one.
86Helenliz
I went to Inverness, it's on my list of places to go back & spend more time. Flew in over Fort George into the smallest airport I've even been in. Honestly, Ive gone through larger bus stations! I don't remember any books hops, so that was clearly a miss!
87charl08
>86 Helenliz: I probably should start a physical list, I have so many places I want to visit. Mostly with bookshops.
88katiekrug
>87 charl08: - "Mostly with bookshops." Yes!
We are tentatively planning to go to Ireland in October, and I am searching out bookshops to visit...
We are tentatively planning to go to Ireland in October, and I am searching out bookshops to visit...
89vancouverdeb
You've done lots of reading, Charlotte. The Bookseller of Inverness is one I have looked at, but never purchased or taken out from the library. It sounds very promising.
90JayneCM
>80 charl08: I had The Bookseller of Inverness on my list for last year and didn't get to read it before it was due back at the library. Glad to see I need to reborrow it and finally read it!
91charl08
>88 katiekrug: Sounds good. Apart from the stop in the airport in September, I don't think I've been to Ireland for twenty years. No, I've just remmebered a trip to Galway for a conference, which was wonderful but didn't give me much time to check out things beyond the conference venue.
Which now I think of it is a bit shocking, given how easy it is to get to from here, and that I liked it when I did go. I did go into a lovely bookshop in the centre of Dublin, but I was on a shoestring budget and so mostly remember being unable to buy anything!
Sad times.
>89 vancouverdeb: I loved the historical details, Deborah. The author talks in the afterword about elders from her community she remembered keeping the memory of the Jacobite campaigns alive, and all the questions she wished she'd asked them.
>90 JayneCM: I was surprised I'd missed the book earlier but it worked out well for me, as I requested it online and it turned up sharpish on the library shelf. Hope yours is as straightforward a process.
>90 JayneCM:
Which now I think of it is a bit shocking, given how easy it is to get to from here, and that I liked it when I did go. I did go into a lovely bookshop in the centre of Dublin, but I was on a shoestring budget and so mostly remember being unable to buy anything!
Sad times.
>89 vancouverdeb: I loved the historical details, Deborah. The author talks in the afterword about elders from her community she remembered keeping the memory of the Jacobite campaigns alive, and all the questions she wished she'd asked them.
>90 JayneCM: I was surprised I'd missed the book earlier but it worked out well for me, as I requested it online and it turned up sharpish on the library shelf. Hope yours is as straightforward a process.
>90 JayneCM:
92charl08
After a poor showing last year with readings from the African continent, I am keen to do better this year.
So Distant from my Life has been on my shelf for a while, but as I didn't add it to the catalogue until I started reading it, I can't tell exactly *when*. The author is from Burkina Faso but the book is set in a fictional, French speaking test African country. A short novel, the narrator recounts his attempts to get to France, from the illegal migrant route across the desert to acquiring a French boyfriend. The narrator is sympathetic despite his bad decisions - perhaps relatable in his bad decisions? Or maybe that's just me.
So Distant from my Life has been on my shelf for a while, but as I didn't add it to the catalogue until I started reading it, I can't tell exactly *when*. The author is from Burkina Faso but the book is set in a fictional, French speaking test African country. A short novel, the narrator recounts his attempts to get to France, from the illegal migrant route across the desert to acquiring a French boyfriend. The narrator is sympathetic despite his bad decisions - perhaps relatable in his bad decisions? Or maybe that's just me.
A headline grabbed my attention: 'Expatriation: The Countries Most Attractive to French Youths.....
The word expatriation intrigued me, especially as a few pages later in the same newspaper, another article lamented 'the tragedy of illegal immigration': 140 sub-Saharan African nationals, dead from thirst in the Libyan desert. I opened the dictionary. I needed to clear up this linguistic mystery. Why are some people expatriates, while others migrate, emigrate or immigrate? Reading the various definitions just confused me further. The words had almost the same meaning. Expatriation means you migrate to another country. When you leave, you emigrate, and when you arrive, you immigrate. And then a detail jumped out: in French, one expatriates oneself, s'expatrier - that s' changes everything. Expatriate oneself, a pronominal verb conjugated with a personal reflexive pronoun. I expatriate myself: I have held Conference with myself, weighed the pros and cons and decided to deport myself elsewhere! This is a choice: an act of will, not of fire under your bottom. When I migrate, I do not have a choice. It is the winds of poverty or of war that push me out of my home.
93VivienneR
>80 charl08: I'm taking a BB on The Bookseller of Inverness. It sounds terrific. And I'm hoping it will add to my sketchy knowledge of Culloden obtained from Neil Oliver.
94charl08
>93 VivienneR: It's a one off, rather than a series, but I liked the characters so much I would read more. Maybe this year is the year I learn more about Scottish history. Recommendations welcome.I do like non-queen* type biographies and micro-histories.
*Or ordinary people, might be a better way to put this!
*Or ordinary people, might be a better way to put this!
95charl08
I've started reading Around the World in 80 Books which annoyingly I didn't add to my catalogue when I bought it. Judging from the bookmark, I got it over a year ago though.
So far he's discussed:
Virginia Woolf, Mrs. Dalloway
Charles Dickens, Great Expectations
Arthur Conan Doyle, The Complete Sherlock Holmes
P. G. Wodehouse, Something Fresh
Arnold Bennett, Riceyman Steps
Marcel Proust, In Search of Lost Time
Djuna Barnes, Nightwood
Marguerite Duras, The Lover
Julio Cortázar, The End of the Game
Apart from Riceyman Steps, he makes them all sound worth picking up (again, in some cases! ).
So far he's discussed:
Virginia Woolf, Mrs. Dalloway
Charles Dickens, Great Expectations
Arthur Conan Doyle, The Complete Sherlock Holmes
P. G. Wodehouse, Something Fresh
Arnold Bennett, Riceyman Steps
Marcel Proust, In Search of Lost Time
Djuna Barnes, Nightwood
Marguerite Duras, The Lover
Julio Cortázar, The End of the Game
Apart from Riceyman Steps, he makes them all sound worth picking up (again, in some cases! ).
96MissBrangwen
>76 charl08: The mentoring program sounds interesting, I hope it will provide the support and inspiration you are looking for!
>80 charl08: >81 Jackie_K: Oh, Leakey's is such a great shop! You can really get lost in all the nooks and crannies there. And The Bookseller of Inverness goes on my WL. My husband has read the first The Seeker book and wasn't a big fan, but I still want to try it one day.
>80 charl08: >81 Jackie_K: Oh, Leakey's is such a great shop! You can really get lost in all the nooks and crannies there. And The Bookseller of Inverness goes on my WL. My husband has read the first The Seeker book and wasn't a big fan, but I still want to try it one day.
97BLBera
I have been thinking that a tour of places with independent bookstores would be a great idea, Charlotte. Maybe we should plan one. :)
So Distant from My Life sounds good, as does Around the World in 80 Books -- what's not to love in a book about books?
So Distant from My Life sounds good, as does Around the World in 80 Books -- what's not to love in a book about books?
98charl08
Devil's Breath
I went to the poison garden in Alnwick last summer and it was eye-opening how many "normal" plants were poisonous. (There were also many exotic ones too, of course.) I think the main character, Professor Rose, would be happy working in Alnwick. She's no longer working at a university, but keeps up her research in rare plants via her roof garden. Which also has a telescope.
The plot centres on Rose's experience watching one of her neighbours, a young woman who seems to be being abused by one of her regular visitors. But of course, this being crime / thriller, nothing is quite as it seems. Professor Rose as a character seems similar to several other novels I've read in the last few years with a main character who shares characteristics with someone on the autism spectrum. I'm not sure if that's me generalising or the noticing effect, or genuinely a trend?
This is the start of a new series.
I went to the poison garden in Alnwick last summer and it was eye-opening how many "normal" plants were poisonous. (There were also many exotic ones too, of course.) I think the main character, Professor Rose, would be happy working in Alnwick. She's no longer working at a university, but keeps up her research in rare plants via her roof garden. Which also has a telescope.
The plot centres on Rose's experience watching one of her neighbours, a young woman who seems to be being abused by one of her regular visitors. But of course, this being crime / thriller, nothing is quite as it seems. Professor Rose as a character seems similar to several other novels I've read in the last few years with a main character who shares characteristics with someone on the autism spectrum. I'm not sure if that's me generalising or the noticing effect, or genuinely a trend?
This is the start of a new series.
"I like this place." She waved her newspaper expansively as she sat down. "The garden's lovely."
"It would be lovely if it didn't have a poisonous tree in it," I said.
At this, she looked around in alarm. "What poisonous tree?"
"The one you were sitting under. Cascabela thevetia, yellow oleander. I have no idea why people insist on putting it in café gardens. The flowers, leaves and seeds contain digitoxin, which slows the heartbeat."
She stared at the tree on the other side of the garden. "Is that dangerous?"
"Ingesting a single seed slows the heartbeat...to a stop."
"Goodness! Should we tell someone?"
"There's no point. In my experience they don't seem to care."
99charl08
Black Spartacus
This has taken me ages to read! Fascinating history of Toussaint Louverture, Haitian leader and trailblazer, throwing off slavery and resisting the French, British and even the US. I knew next to nothing about him, and what was lovely about reading this was how much archive still exists of his life. Toussaint was keen on letter writing and proclamations, and not only that but French, British, US officials and even ordinary people writing about him to government officials. In a pattern that will be familiar from more recent colonial history, after the initial rebellion against slavery, Toussaint was able to take advantage of imperial distraction to set up an effectively independent state. However, once Britain and France were at peace, Napoleon was able to send a large force to crush Toussaint's troops. Even this didn't go to plan, with resistance only crushed thanks to colonial forces convincing his subordinates to go over to their side.
Hazareesingh's book read to me like a defence of Toussaint, his strategies both politically and when leading troops. Sometimes this felt a bit forced to me (but like I said, I don't know anything about this context). For example, he issued decrees enforcing marriage and making separation difficult, but had multiple affairs at the same time as his marriage. Or more politically, instituted himself as sole leader with rights to appoint his successor, despite claiming to be inspired by republican ideals (not unlike Napoleon, of course). Or enforcing economic reform that hit former enslaved people harder, and effectively meant they were all but tied to plantation labour, whilst the wealthy classes (both old and new) benefitted.
I was fascinated by the final chapter where he looks at the way the "story" of Toussaint has been used by anti-slavery and anti-colonial movements. Touchingly, activists from across the world named their children after him, from Ireland to the US.
And in one of the many examples in literature he quotes, the play for colored girls who have considered suicide/when the rainbow is enuf.
This has taken me ages to read! Fascinating history of Toussaint Louverture, Haitian leader and trailblazer, throwing off slavery and resisting the French, British and even the US. I knew next to nothing about him, and what was lovely about reading this was how much archive still exists of his life. Toussaint was keen on letter writing and proclamations, and not only that but French, British, US officials and even ordinary people writing about him to government officials. In a pattern that will be familiar from more recent colonial history, after the initial rebellion against slavery, Toussaint was able to take advantage of imperial distraction to set up an effectively independent state. However, once Britain and France were at peace, Napoleon was able to send a large force to crush Toussaint's troops. Even this didn't go to plan, with resistance only crushed thanks to colonial forces convincing his subordinates to go over to their side.
Hazareesingh's book read to me like a defence of Toussaint, his strategies both politically and when leading troops. Sometimes this felt a bit forced to me (but like I said, I don't know anything about this context). For example, he issued decrees enforcing marriage and making separation difficult, but had multiple affairs at the same time as his marriage. Or more politically, instituted himself as sole leader with rights to appoint his successor, despite claiming to be inspired by republican ideals (not unlike Napoleon, of course). Or enforcing economic reform that hit former enslaved people harder, and effectively meant they were all but tied to plantation labour, whilst the wealthy classes (both old and new) benefitted.
I was fascinated by the final chapter where he looks at the way the "story" of Toussaint has been used by anti-slavery and anti-colonial movements. Touchingly, activists from across the world named their children after him, from Ireland to the US.
And in one of the many examples in literature he quotes, the play for colored girls who have considered suicide/when the rainbow is enuf.
In this work, which has become one of the classics of the modern feminist dramatic repertoire, seven African American women discussed their experiences of racism and sexism in society, and the creative strategies they devised to counter them. One of the characters, the 'Lady in Brown', spoke of her mind-blowing discovery of Toussaint Louverture as an eight- yearold child from St Louis. After entering a reading contest in her local library, she was swept away by how Toussaint had freed Haiti from slavery 'wid the spirits of ol dead africans from outta the ground'. Because she had found the book about Toussaint in the 'adult reading room', however, she was disqualified from the competition. The disappointment only compounded her fixation with her hero: 'he waz dead & livin to me'.
100charl08
>96 MissBrangwen: Definitely adding Leakeys to my list after the ringing endorsements here!
>97 BLBera: Funny you should mention that. I was in Oxfam books yesterday and they had a poster up for a "Bookshop tour" in London next month. It sounded good. Now if only I knew some people near London who could test it out for me...
My "try and buy less books" plan is going well. >8 charl08:
>97 BLBera: Funny you should mention that. I was in Oxfam books yesterday and they had a poster up for a "Bookshop tour" in London next month. It sounded good. Now if only I knew some people near London who could test it out for me...
My "try and buy less books" plan is going well. >8 charl08:
101Tess_W
>98 charl08: Sounds lovely! Put it on my WL!
102Crazymamie
Charlotte, as always your thread is a dangerous place. Bookseller of Inverness and Devil's Breath (which I guess is titles The Woman in the Garden here because of course it is?!) both look good. Also like the looks of Around the World in 80 Books.
>99 charl08: Love the quote you shared from the play!
Hoping Monday is being kind to you.
>99 charl08: Love the quote you shared from the play!
Hoping Monday is being kind to you.
103Familyhistorian
>85 charl08: It's so hard to visit places that are close to us, somehow. To be honest the first time I saw Culloden was on a bus from Fort William to the Isle of Skye where I was in search of my family history. The photos from the bus didn't do it justice though and I was as much impressed with how the buses made it through all those dinky highland highways as I was with the history of Culloden. I did make it back to Culloden on another trip to Scotland but it was on a tour so only a short stop that time.
104BLBera
>99 charl08: This sounds fascinating. Like you, I don't know much about him. I'll add this to my list.
Your not-buying-books resolution is going well. ;)
Your not-buying-books resolution is going well. ;)
105charl08
>101 Tess_W: Apparently it has a different title outside the UK? (see >102 Crazymamie:)
>102 Crazymamie: That's a weird alternative title - I wonder why. Why???
I want to read the play now, it sounds good.
>103 Familyhistorian: It's weird that, though isn't it. I always feel embarrassed to admit that I don't think I've ever even visited Devon and Cornwall (it just seems like such a LONG journey, with such a lot of people from London there at the end.)
>104 BLBera: I forgot to mention the book reproduced some of his proclamations. I had archive envy. So interesting how Black and other anti-imperial presses resisted the imperial narrative about what republicanism and independence looked like, long after Toussaint's lifetime.
>102 Crazymamie: That's a weird alternative title - I wonder why. Why???
I want to read the play now, it sounds good.
>103 Familyhistorian: It's weird that, though isn't it. I always feel embarrassed to admit that I don't think I've ever even visited Devon and Cornwall (it just seems like such a LONG journey, with such a lot of people from London there at the end.)
>104 BLBera: I forgot to mention the book reproduced some of his proclamations. I had archive envy. So interesting how Black and other anti-imperial presses resisted the imperial narrative about what republicanism and independence looked like, long after Toussaint's lifetime.
106charl08
Well, LT recommendations rarely steer me wrong. Read Iron Lake in a special 20th anniversary edition. I'll be looking for the rest of the series.
107Helenliz
>103 Familyhistorian: That is so true. I'm glad that when I spent time in London, my mum nagged me to go out and visit the museums & art galleries. I used to take ~ 1 afternoon a month off and go somewhere and send her a postcard. She kept them and gave them back to me many years later.
108charl08
>107 Helenliz: Aw. This is a lovely thing.
I keep finding stashes of cards and other bits we sent my mum when I've been (or trying to) declutter - and don't really know what to do with them.
Not a lot I can do with them RN, as our wheelie-bin-for-paper went missing, and the replacement one I ordered from the council (3 weeks ago? More?) has yet to show up. Somewhat cross-making.
I keep finding stashes of cards and other bits we sent my mum when I've been (or trying to) declutter - and don't really know what to do with them.
Not a lot I can do with them RN, as our wheelie-bin-for-paper went missing, and the replacement one I ordered from the council (3 weeks ago? More?) has yet to show up. Somewhat cross-making.
109vancouverdeb
BB from you, The Bookseller of Inverness. My library did not have it , so I had to purchase it. Thanks Charlotte. I hope you are doing well.
110charl08
Hope you like it Deborah!
I signed up for substack, found a million book-related (threads? stacks? not sure) and started feeling overwhelmed as emails started announcing new membership, paid for options and posts. Turned off my email notifications and felt better.
A short story collection I read last year This Train is For has won work's short story prize. Of course now I wish I had written a longer review so I could say something relevant about it to the bookgroup. (other than I had to explain the title on Litsy, to someone who presumably has not had the joy of sitting on a commuter train listening to the announcer for the nth time tell you a route you can almost recite in your sleep...)
Lancaster Lit festival promo has started. I am wondering if this is the year I decide to actually go to some events. It's technically possible, but annoyingly the local train doesn't run on a Sunday. https://litfest.org/
(Not all their events are public yet).
Oh, and I finished a couple of books.
Aya: Claws out is the third book (confusingly, 7th in comic terms) in the series that follows Aya (a character based on the author's own youth) in 1970s Cote D'Ivoire, then experiencing an economic boom. This edition things get a bit more political, with one friend participating in anti-immigrant protests in Paris, and Aya herself getting involved in student politics at university. Meanwhile 'Flora' is struggling with audiences not being able to tell the difference between her TV character and RL. I love the illustrations in this series, and the attention paid to language and background details. This edition even includes some recipes and translations of common proverbs.

Losing the Dead
I started this ages ago and put it down after 20 pages (it opens with an account of her mother's memory problems, and I think this put me off). For some reason I picked it up last night and then couldn't put it down. It's quite a short book, but manages to cover her own experience as a child growing up in Canada as the child of two holocaust survivors (I was reminded of Anne Michaels), her growing understanding of why her mother effectively fictionalised her life, and then in later life her own return to Poland to try and put together the missing pieces of her family history.
She writes convincingly about her parents' knife-edge escapes from being sent to the camps, and how they lived with those strategies in later life.
At one point she describes the key part played by a friend of her father's, who 'loaned' him rolls of fabric (that otherwise would have been confiscated by the Nazis). Her father came up with the idea of keeping it in an unused rooftop water tank. Appignanesi suggess he used this like a bank as fabric became more and more scarce and more and more valuable. The image has caught my imagination.
I've taken a break from The Postcard but this reminded me I need to finish it (to return it to the library). I was also thinking of other books about the holocaust in Poland I've read, including those exploring the experiences of children left with Polish families and within the Warsaw ghetto.
I signed up for substack, found a million book-related (threads? stacks? not sure) and started feeling overwhelmed as emails started announcing new membership, paid for options and posts. Turned off my email notifications and felt better.
A short story collection I read last year This Train is For has won work's short story prize. Of course now I wish I had written a longer review so I could say something relevant about it to the bookgroup. (other than I had to explain the title on Litsy, to someone who presumably has not had the joy of sitting on a commuter train listening to the announcer for the nth time tell you a route you can almost recite in your sleep...)
Lancaster Lit festival promo has started. I am wondering if this is the year I decide to actually go to some events. It's technically possible, but annoyingly the local train doesn't run on a Sunday. https://litfest.org/
(Not all their events are public yet).
Oh, and I finished a couple of books.
Aya: Claws out is the third book (confusingly, 7th in comic terms) in the series that follows Aya (a character based on the author's own youth) in 1970s Cote D'Ivoire, then experiencing an economic boom. This edition things get a bit more political, with one friend participating in anti-immigrant protests in Paris, and Aya herself getting involved in student politics at university. Meanwhile 'Flora' is struggling with audiences not being able to tell the difference between her TV character and RL. I love the illustrations in this series, and the attention paid to language and background details. This edition even includes some recipes and translations of common proverbs.

Losing the Dead
I started this ages ago and put it down after 20 pages (it opens with an account of her mother's memory problems, and I think this put me off). For some reason I picked it up last night and then couldn't put it down. It's quite a short book, but manages to cover her own experience as a child growing up in Canada as the child of two holocaust survivors (I was reminded of Anne Michaels), her growing understanding of why her mother effectively fictionalised her life, and then in later life her own return to Poland to try and put together the missing pieces of her family history.
She writes convincingly about her parents' knife-edge escapes from being sent to the camps, and how they lived with those strategies in later life.
At one point she describes the key part played by a friend of her father's, who 'loaned' him rolls of fabric (that otherwise would have been confiscated by the Nazis). Her father came up with the idea of keeping it in an unused rooftop water tank. Appignanesi suggess he used this like a bank as fabric became more and more scarce and more and more valuable. The image has caught my imagination.
I've taken a break from The Postcard but this reminded me I need to finish it (to return it to the library). I was also thinking of other books about the holocaust in Poland I've read, including those exploring the experiences of children left with Polish families and within the Warsaw ghetto.
111BLBera
I'm glad you liked Iron Lake; it's not the best one in the series. But if you liked it, you will probably like the series. The Toussaint does sound fascinating.
112vancouverdeb
I've only read one of William Kent Kruger's , Ordinary Grace. It's a stand alone novel and I really loved it. Dave, my husband enjoys the Cork O Connor series.
113charl08
>111 BLBera: Beth, I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to carry on with the series, as the library doesn't have the next one in the catalogue.
>112 vancouverdeb: I'll add Ordinary Grace to my wishlist. ETA or I would, if it wasn't there already...
>112 vancouverdeb: I'll add Ordinary Grace to my wishlist. ETA or I would, if it wasn't there already...
114charl08
Books and Islands in Ojibwe Country
I picked this up in Powells (I think!). I mislaid it for a while but was glad to pick it up again.
I loved her descriptions of travelling with her daughter, and the island library at the end of the book made me look up Minnesota island trips.
I couldn't find tours to the library island, but I did find the Minnesota historical society catalogue...
Survival Schools Julie L. Davis
Mothers United Andrea Dyrness
American Indians and the American Dream Kasey R. Keeler
Seven Aunts Staci Lola Drouillard
Reading Autobiography Now Sidonie Smith

I picked this up in Powells (I think!). I mislaid it for a while but was glad to pick it up again.
I loved her descriptions of travelling with her daughter, and the island library at the end of the book made me look up Minnesota island trips.
I couldn't find tours to the library island, but I did find the Minnesota historical society catalogue...
Survival Schools Julie L. Davis
Mothers United Andrea Dyrness
American Indians and the American Dream Kasey R. Keeler
Seven Aunts Staci Lola Drouillard
Reading Autobiography Now Sidonie Smith

115MissBrangwen
>114 charl08: Books and Islands in Ojibwe Country sounds interesting. I hope to reread Love Medicine this year and explore more of Erdrich's books after that. I'm also taking note of Seven Aunts.
116charl08
>115 MissBrangwen: She writes beautifully, I came across her work thanks to LT. I want to go visit her Bookshop too.
I meant to add this quote to my review but got distracted by other things.
I meant to add this quote to my review but got distracted by other things.
I am haunted by a book that I found the first time I visited Ober's island. It was stuck away in a corner of a little cabin I haven't described, one devoted to books alone, the library. My find was a little pamphlet-sized inconsequential-looking book covered with a black paper that looked like oilcloth. I slipped it from the shelf and opened it. Tristram Shandy. The first novel in the English language. As it was originally published in serial form this was but a portion of the first edition and first printing. Laurence Sterne had signed the title page. I had a strange, covetous, Golum-like feeling as I held the book, my precious. I suppose it was the beginning of the sort of emotional response to books that drives those collectors you hear about, occasionally, to fill their apartments with books until there are only book tunnels to walk through and the floors eventually collapse down onto their neighbors.
Of course, I have to see Tristram Shandy again.
117MissBrangwen
>116 charl08: What a wonderful quote, thank you for sharing! I agree, she writes beautifully.
118BLBera
>114 charl08: Nice, Charlotte. If you ever come to Minnesota, I will be happy to host you! Louise Erdrich's store is fun, and there are some other indy bookstores as well.
I am waiting for Seven Aunts from the library.
I am waiting for Seven Aunts from the library.
119charl08
>117 MissBrangwen: Hope you find plenty of her books to enjoy.
>118 BLBera: Thanks Beth, that's really kind. I think I'd have to save a bit before any more big trips. Not least for the book purchasing budget! I bought another of her books on my last trip, I should pick it up. I was looking for the island she mentions in the book, and whether you can visit it as a tourist. But the info I found on the Web made me wonder if it's more set up with groups for longer residential visits. Which makes sense if they want to keep it peaceful.
I read Dinosaurs today, which I liked. And it was my own book, so I can also tick that box.
>118 BLBera: Thanks Beth, that's really kind. I think I'd have to save a bit before any more big trips. Not least for the book purchasing budget! I bought another of her books on my last trip, I should pick it up. I was looking for the island she mentions in the book, and whether you can visit it as a tourist. But the info I found on the Web made me wonder if it's more set up with groups for longer residential visits. Which makes sense if they want to keep it peaceful.
I read Dinosaurs today, which I liked. And it was my own book, so I can also tick that box.
121charl08
>120 BLBera: It's one of those books that I'm not sure how to describe, so think I will just leave it that you have on your thread! In some ways it reminded me of Elizabeth Strout and Mary Lawson - that quiet quality to the writing.
122charl08
Ack I'm not having the best day. Ran out of milk at home and the coffee machines were broken at work, I had to wait until my lunch hour to go across campus.
However, I really loved the book I finished yesterday, Tom Lake by Ann Patchett. I think this might be the most effective pandemic novel I've read yet - although it's not really about the pandemic at all.
Anyone any thoughts on the "big reveal" at the end?
However, I really loved the book I finished yesterday, Tom Lake by Ann Patchett. I think this might be the most effective pandemic novel I've read yet - although it's not really about the pandemic at all.
Anyone any thoughts on the "big reveal" at the end?
Didn't you tell me once that pear trees are agitated by lightning somehow? Don't they come through the window?" All year long we stare out this window-the tissue-thin blossoms, the birds, the cherries and the apples, the bright-red autumn, the sweep of snow, the result- ing mud, and then the blossoms again. French Impressionism has nothing on our view. We put the window in when we expanded the kitchen and built the family room. Michigan farmers like houses they can keep warm, and so for months we debated the question of warmth versus beauty and in the end beauty won. Neighbors come into this room and shake their heads at such decadence.
123Tess_W
>113 charl08: I liked Ordinary Grace, also.
124BLBera
>122 charl08: Interesting question about the big reveal, Charlotte. My first thought was that it wasn't necessary, but I also think it shows that she consciously turned her back on that part of her life. I really liked this one as well.
125vancouverdeb
I still have not read Tom Lake yet , Charlotte. Sorry to read about your bad day yesterday. I hope today and this weekend are much better and relaxing.
126charl08
>123 Tess_W: My library doesn't have a copy, so I'll have look at the price of a kindle version.
>124 BLBera: I thought of it as a bit of a leap, and then I remembered that there were comments near the start aboutwomen's need to be careful, and the experience when she first arrived in her room at Tom Lake, and she checked all the exits. And I guess also the reflections on the casting couch too.
>125 vancouverdeb: I have coffee, so that's a step forward! Thanks for the good wishes.
>124 BLBera: I thought of it as a bit of a leap, and then I remembered that there were comments near the start about
>125 vancouverdeb: I have coffee, so that's a step forward! Thanks for the good wishes.
127charl08
>126 charl08: Rereading my message above and thinking "how clumsy"! Hopefully if you've read Tom Lake it makes some sense.
We're doing a bookswop at work on Thursday, so I've picked up some shorter books to see if I can finish them in time to pass on.
The Love of Singular Men
This was one of my Peirene subscription books last year, translated from the original Portuguese. The author, a successful journalist and author died young and I found it kind of hard not to read this with that in mind. The blurbs on the book reference and accentuate this lost potential.
Heringer draws on his own childhood growing up in Rio, from the perspective of an over-protected young boy whose parents are better off than the rest of the community. His life changes when his father brings into the house a young orphan. The adult Camilo looks back at the short period for the family before Cosime's stay with them was cut short by tragedy. Camilo is viewed as 'less than' due to his disability by both his family and the wider community, from well-meaning pity to exclusion and casual violence. His sexuality puts him further outside the pale, with the narrative describing both his present day experiences of exclusion and the effects of childhood attitudes.
Heringer plays around with format, including lists and photos amongst the text, and questioning characters' accounts and experiences. For such a short book, it manages to pack a lot in, from the normalisation of state torture to candomblé and the lives of street children.
We're doing a bookswop at work on Thursday, so I've picked up some shorter books to see if I can finish them in time to pass on.
The Love of Singular Men
This was one of my Peirene subscription books last year, translated from the original Portuguese. The author, a successful journalist and author died young and I found it kind of hard not to read this with that in mind. The blurbs on the book reference and accentuate this lost potential.
Heringer draws on his own childhood growing up in Rio, from the perspective of an over-protected young boy whose parents are better off than the rest of the community. His life changes when his father brings into the house a young orphan. The adult Camilo looks back at the short period for the family before Cosime's stay with them was cut short by tragedy. Camilo is viewed as 'less than' due to his disability by both his family and the wider community, from well-meaning pity to exclusion and casual violence. His sexuality puts him further outside the pale, with the narrative describing both his present day experiences of exclusion and the effects of childhood attitudes.
Heringer plays around with format, including lists and photos amongst the text, and questioning characters' accounts and experiences. For such a short book, it manages to pack a lot in, from the normalisation of state torture to candomblé and the lives of street children.
We had no idea of the problems that had plagued our parents' marriage in recent months. We didn't even know who ran the country. We lived under the weird dictatorship of childhood: we looked but didn't see, listened but understood nothing, spoke and were largely ignored. But we were happy under that regime. Like a thick shroud, the fabric of our young lives shielded us completely.
128charl08
The Postcard
Finally finished this one (which the touchstone wants to turn into a James Patterson novel. No.) I struggled to get past the first section, where 'Anne' tracks down, with the help of her mother's research, the deportation and killing of her great aunt, uncle, and their parents (her great-grandparents). It's told at the level of the individual (Jacques is tired, so he ignores his sister in the lines at Auschwitz and goes to the 'infirmary' truck) and I found it all the more hard-hitting for that. The second half (roughly) tries to establish how / where Myriam survived the war, and to some extent, what this means for 'Anne' and for her family, as individuals but also as part of the community of children, grandchildren of survivors.I found the ending took my breath, the grandmother's desperate attempt to fight dementia, the last in a line of those who had sought to minimise or erase the loss of her family, and French culpability.
I've put her name in '' as the book is defined variously as 'family autofiction' (Lithub) and a 'gripping personal account styled as a whodunit' (JTA).
Finally finished this one (which the touchstone wants to turn into a James Patterson novel. No.) I struggled to get past the first section, where 'Anne' tracks down, with the help of her mother's research, the deportation and killing of her great aunt, uncle, and their parents (her great-grandparents). It's told at the level of the individual (Jacques is tired, so he ignores his sister in the lines at Auschwitz and goes to the 'infirmary' truck) and I found it all the more hard-hitting for that. The second half (roughly) tries to establish how / where Myriam survived the war, and to some extent, what this means for 'Anne' and for her family, as individuals but also as part of the community of children, grandchildren of survivors.
I've put her name in '' as the book is defined variously as 'family autofiction' (Lithub) and a 'gripping personal account styled as a whodunit' (JTA).
129charl08
After the war, women in orthodox Jewish families had made it their mission to have as many children as possible to replenish the population-and it seemed to me that the same was true for books. That subconscious drive to write as many books as possible, to fill those places left empty on the library shelves, not just by the books burned during the war, but by the ones whose authors had died before they could write them.
130Caroline_McElwee
>122 charl08: Ann Pratchett rarely lets you down Charlotte, glad it worked for you too.
Hope your day improved.
Hope your day improved.
131charl08
>130 Caroline_McElwee: It did - I found coffee elsewhere on campus, and this week the closest coffee machine has been repaired! Hope you're having a good week.
132bell7
>128 charl08: I had a similar experience reading to you, Charlotte, where it was really hard to read the first part and I had to pace myself. I really loved Anne's meditation on what it meant to not feel particularly Jewish while also being a descendant of those killed in the Holocaust. And the ending really was perfect, wasn't it?
Looks like you've had quite the string of good reads, too. I'm hoping to get to Heaven and Earth Grocery Store soon - my hold on the e-book estimates I'll get it in five weeks.
Looks like you've had quite the string of good reads, too. I'm hoping to get to Heaven and Earth Grocery Store soon - my hold on the e-book estimates I'll get it in five weeks.
133vancouverdeb
I've looked at The PostCard so often at the bookstore, and the library, and yet I have not yet read it. I'm glad the coffee machine has been fixed.
134charl08
>132 bell7: Yes, I wasn't expecting the analysis of being Jewish in present-day France, and all the different perspectives on that identity.
>133 vancouverdeb: It is quite a substantial book, Deborah. Could you get hold of a library copy to see if you liked it?
My library system sent round a survey yesterday to "Help us improve Lancashire Libraries". I got quite worried by the first question, but fortunately the answer options stopped at "over 20".
>133 vancouverdeb: It is quite a substantial book, Deborah. Could you get hold of a library copy to see if you liked it?
My library system sent round a survey yesterday to "Help us improve Lancashire Libraries". I got quite worried by the first question, but fortunately the answer options stopped at "over 20".
135christina_reads
>134 charl08: Haha, I think I might be at "over 20" just for 2024!
136Familyhistorian
>134 charl08: People who make those surveys just have no idea, do they?
137charl08
>135 christina_reads: Yes, me too.
>136 Familyhistorian: It was an interesting survey: they seemed to be looking for connections between library reading behaviour (print/ online) and purchasing (either for yourself or for someone else). I am not sure my responses were very helpful, because I had to tick most of the options they offered (read the print library version, buy for someone else, buy the print version...). They did let you tick more than one option, so maybe they were expecting this though?
I've heard digital is expensive, so maybe it's linked to that? Not sure.
Work's bookgroup met yesterday and I was delighted to donate four books. Immediate sense of achievement slightly dented by bringing home two of the ones donated by others...! It was a really good turnout. We also looked at signing up for my library system's bookclub borrowing scheme. Sometimes we have people struggle to get hold of the books, so maybe this will help.
>136 Familyhistorian: It was an interesting survey: they seemed to be looking for connections between library reading behaviour (print/ online) and purchasing (either for yourself or for someone else). I am not sure my responses were very helpful, because I had to tick most of the options they offered (read the print library version, buy for someone else, buy the print version...). They did let you tick more than one option, so maybe they were expecting this though?
I've heard digital is expensive, so maybe it's linked to that? Not sure.
Work's bookgroup met yesterday and I was delighted to donate four books. Immediate sense of achievement slightly dented by bringing home two of the ones donated by others...! It was a really good turnout. We also looked at signing up for my library system's bookclub borrowing scheme. Sometimes we have people struggle to get hold of the books, so maybe this will help.
138vancouverdeb
I think I have purchased 6 books so far this year, Charlotte. But Dave is retiring in March of this year, so I am hoping ( and so he is he :-) that I can limit myself to one book purchase a month. We'll see. I'll try. And yes, I am quite certain my library has The PostCard. Well, I also purchased two books for my grandkids this year, and one for my mom. For a while, my library only allowed a person to borrow 10 books at a time! Now, that was bad! Things went back to the usual unlimited number a couple of years ago , thank goodness. I don't know what the problem was.
139charl08
>138 vancouverdeb: I've heard of people who do P/T jobs in retirement just to fund holidays. I think I might have to do it to fund books! (Assuming I've still got room to move in the house for them at that point, though?!) I will head over to your thread to see what you are planning for his retirement.
140charl08
The women's prize for non-fiction has just announced its longlist. All terribly tempting.
Alice Albinia The Britannias: An Island Quest
Grace Blakeley Vulture Capitalism: Corporate Crimes, Backdoor Bailouts, and the Death of Freedom
Cat Bohannon Eve: How the Female Body Drove 200 Million Years of Human Evolution
Marianne Brooker Intervals
Joya Chatterji Shadows at Noon: The South Asian Twentieth Century
Laura Cumming Thunderclap: A Memoir of Art and Life and Sudden Death
Patricia Evangelista Some People Need Killing: A Memoir of Murder in the Philippines
Anna Funder Wifedom: Mrs. Orwell’s Invisible Life
Lucy Jones Matrescence: On the Metamorphosis of Pregnancy, Childbirth, and Motherhood
Naomi Klein Doppelganger: A Trip Into the Mirror World
Noreen Masud A Flat Place
Tiya Miles All That She Carried: The Journey of Ashley’s Sack, a Black Family Keepsake
Madhumita Murgia Code-Dependent: Living in the Shadow of AI
Sarah Ogilvie The Dictionary People: The Unsung Heroes Who Created the Oxford English Dictionary
Leah Redmond Chang Young Queens: The Intertwined Lives of Catherine de’ Medici, Elisabeth de Valois, and Mary, Queen of Scots
Safiya Sinclair How To Say Babylon: A Jamaican Memoir
Alice Albinia The Britannias: An Island Quest
Grace Blakeley Vulture Capitalism: Corporate Crimes, Backdoor Bailouts, and the Death of Freedom
Cat Bohannon Eve: How the Female Body Drove 200 Million Years of Human Evolution
Marianne Brooker Intervals
Joya Chatterji Shadows at Noon: The South Asian Twentieth Century
Laura Cumming Thunderclap: A Memoir of Art and Life and Sudden Death
Patricia Evangelista Some People Need Killing: A Memoir of Murder in the Philippines
Anna Funder Wifedom: Mrs. Orwell’s Invisible Life
Lucy Jones Matrescence: On the Metamorphosis of Pregnancy, Childbirth, and Motherhood
Naomi Klein Doppelganger: A Trip Into the Mirror World
Noreen Masud A Flat Place
Tiya Miles All That She Carried: The Journey of Ashley’s Sack, a Black Family Keepsake
Madhumita Murgia Code-Dependent: Living in the Shadow of AI
Sarah Ogilvie The Dictionary People: The Unsung Heroes Who Created the Oxford English Dictionary
Leah Redmond Chang Young Queens: The Intertwined Lives of Catherine de’ Medici, Elisabeth de Valois, and Mary, Queen of Scots
Safiya Sinclair How To Say Babylon: A Jamaican Memoir
141BLBera
>140 charl08: This does not bode well for reading from my shelf, Charlotte. Most of these sound tempting, and I had only heard of a few of them. Luckily my library owns several of them.
142Jackie_K
>140 charl08: I know, I'm so doomed!
143elkiedee
I've read Wifedom by Anna Funder. I thought it was excellent although readers may find it has an impact on how they read anything George Orwell wrote. I've wanted to read the Tiya Miles book for a while (I think it was originally published in the US and I borrowed but never got to an elibrary copy - it's quite newly published here). And I'd like to read the Naomi Klein book. I've heard Grace Blakeley speak. And yes, most of the others do also sound interesting.
144vancouverdeb
I've not read anything from the Women's Non- fiction longlist, nor am I familiar with the books. I need to look into them. I think the Women's Prize for Fiction Longlist will prove especially challenging for my pocket book. We aren't planning anything for Dave's retirement , he is just looking forward to it. I am flying phobic and I don't see myself as a cruise person. Maybe some time in the future we will do a little travelling.
145charl08
This article about Aya explains (some of ) the appeal of this graphic novel series. Should work without a paywall.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/10/books/aya-of-yop-city-comic-book.html?unlocke...
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/10/books/aya-of-yop-city-comic-book.html?unlocke...
146charl08
>141 BLBera: There are some great titles there, and most I've not come across already. The exceptions are the books by Miles and Cumming, both of which have been moved up the pecking order by this list.
>142 Jackie_K: Ha! But in a good way, right?
>143 elkiedee: I'd not come across the book about Orwell, good to know. I can't say I'm a fan, so less of a concern re reading his work than it would be for some of my favourite authors.
>144 vancouverdeb: My library has been very good at getting hold of books when they are nominated, but even so I sometimes run out of patience.
I would love to do a train trip across Canada - but perhaps you have done this already? I have never been on a cruise but am wondering if it is the best way to see the Norwegian fjords, which I would like to see.
>142 Jackie_K: Ha! But in a good way, right?
>143 elkiedee: I'd not come across the book about Orwell, good to know. I can't say I'm a fan, so less of a concern re reading his work than it would be for some of my favourite authors.
>144 vancouverdeb: My library has been very good at getting hold of books when they are nominated, but even so I sometimes run out of patience.
I would love to do a train trip across Canada - but perhaps you have done this already? I have never been on a cruise but am wondering if it is the best way to see the Norwegian fjords, which I would like to see.
147Jackie_K
>146 charl08: Definitely!
The one book that was already on my wishlist prior to this is Noreen Masud's A Flat Place. I've heard nothing but amazing reviews of it.
The one book that was already on my wishlist prior to this is Noreen Masud's A Flat Place. I've heard nothing but amazing reviews of it.
148vancouverdeb
A train trip across Canada would be fabulous, Charlotte. A great way to see the country, I think. It is very expensive here, which you might already know. I have had the good fortune to travel from Winnipeg to Vancouver by train and it was fabulous. I was in my early thirties and Dave and I drove to Winnipeg with our two boys, and as I am flying phobic , I took the train back home , and Dave and the kids flew home. My parents flew in to Winnipeg and drove the car back.
I think the furthest you can travel is from Montreal to Vancouver on Via Rail. I took Via Rail on my trip from Winnipeg to Vancouver. There is also The Rocky Mountaineer, which travels through the Rocky Mountains to Calgary or Edmonton. Personally, my choice would be to take the Rocky Mountaineer via Banff and Lake Louise, which I think are very beautiful. The other route goes thru Jasper, which I don't think is as picturesque.
A cruise through the Norwegian Fjords sounds lovely too. Here is a link to Via Rail. https://www.viarail.ca/en
Here is a link to The Rocky Mountaineer. https://www.rockymountaineer.com/?gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI-bvf2NSxhAM...
I think the furthest you can travel is from Montreal to Vancouver on Via Rail. I took Via Rail on my trip from Winnipeg to Vancouver. There is also The Rocky Mountaineer, which travels through the Rocky Mountains to Calgary or Edmonton. Personally, my choice would be to take the Rocky Mountaineer via Banff and Lake Louise, which I think are very beautiful. The other route goes thru Jasper, which I don't think is as picturesque.
A cruise through the Norwegian Fjords sounds lovely too. Here is a link to Via Rail. https://www.viarail.ca/en
Here is a link to The Rocky Mountaineer. https://www.rockymountaineer.com/?gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI-bvf2NSxhAM...
149MissBrangwen
>140 charl08: Wow, there are some really interesting ones on this list!
Especially (to me) the Albinia, Chatterji, Funder, Ogilvie and Redmond Chang.
My problem is that so many nonfiction works look fascinating, but in reality I never read as much nonfiction as I would like to.
Especially (to me) the Albinia, Chatterji, Funder, Ogilvie and Redmond Chang.
My problem is that so many nonfiction works look fascinating, but in reality I never read as much nonfiction as I would like to.
150vancouverdeb
I should explain that trains here are very expensive compared to UK , I mean . I think things like accommodation and food etc are similar in price to that in the UK .
151elkiedee
It was nearly 20 years ago (autumn 2004) and the exchange rate at the time was very favourable to me, but I didn't find ViaRail especially expensive when I visited Canada. We booked in advance to travel from NYC to Toronto, Toronto to Montreal on a sleeper train, and to return to NYC from Montreal, although at least one of those journeys was an Amtrak booking. While we were in Toronto we also visited Niagara Falls overnight by train.
Train fares here are very complicated and generally more expensive than most of Europe - you can get some cheap advance tickets on some routes, but on others, there are very few bargains.
Train fares here are very complicated and generally more expensive than most of Europe - you can get some cheap advance tickets on some routes, but on others, there are very few bargains.
152Berly
>134 charl08: RE the survey and that you didn't have to reveal your true book buying habits since the options stopped at "over 20" -- LOL!! Have a great weekend.
153jessibud2
>148 vancouverdeb: - I travel from Toronto to Mtl all the time on VIA Rail. I collect points so that sometimes, the trip is free.
A million years ago, when I was 18, I think, I spent the summer in California at my grandparents. A friend and I travelled by bus up the west coast to Vancouver, stopping in Oregon, at one point. Two school friends from home met me in Vancouver (they were visiting the older brother of one of them and the 3 of us took the train home to Montreal. We stopped in Banff and Jasper, and, I think Winnipeg, but from there, straight through to Montreal. It was a fun adventure.
About 10 years or so ago, some friends of mine took that Rocky Mountain train trip. They left their car at my house and I dropped them off at the train. It was all retirees. I giggled because it was like dropping kids off to go to camp. They said it was a great trip.
To be honest, I have no desire to travel any more. Probably due to my frequent trips to Montreal these last several years, I just find the whole thing tedious. I am glad I did travelling in my youth (20s, 30s, even road trips in recent years) but big trips hold no appeal for me and I'm fine with that. Like you, Deb, I dislike flying and will avoid that at all costs.
Edited to add, oops, sorry for the hijack, Charlotte. I thought I was on Deborah's thread!
A million years ago, when I was 18, I think, I spent the summer in California at my grandparents. A friend and I travelled by bus up the west coast to Vancouver, stopping in Oregon, at one point. Two school friends from home met me in Vancouver (they were visiting the older brother of one of them and the 3 of us took the train home to Montreal. We stopped in Banff and Jasper, and, I think Winnipeg, but from there, straight through to Montreal. It was a fun adventure.
About 10 years or so ago, some friends of mine took that Rocky Mountain train trip. They left their car at my house and I dropped them off at the train. It was all retirees. I giggled because it was like dropping kids off to go to camp. They said it was a great trip.
To be honest, I have no desire to travel any more. Probably due to my frequent trips to Montreal these last several years, I just find the whole thing tedious. I am glad I did travelling in my youth (20s, 30s, even road trips in recent years) but big trips hold no appeal for me and I'm fine with that. Like you, Deb, I dislike flying and will avoid that at all costs.
Edited to add, oops, sorry for the hijack, Charlotte. I thought I was on Deborah's thread!
154vancouverdeb
Sorry, Charlotte, I did mean to start a big discussion about train prices in Canada. I took so called " Sleeper Plus Class " from Winnipeg to Vancouver. I had a roomette for one, which means I had I had a small room with a sink, toilet, bed and seat. I had my own window, and I really loved it. I had access to the Observatory car all day, which had great views and you could also purchase food. Travelling economy class is much less expensive, but you are sitting up in chair, which was not feasible for me for 2 nights. There is also the option of having a berth, which probably is not bad at all.
Anyway, Charlotte, here in a link to the different classes and what they look like - it's definitely a beautiful trip - or at least I thought is was from Winnipeg to Vancouver.
https://www.seat61.com/train-from-toronto-to-vancouver.htm
The prices I could see looking online in the link are in US dollars. Perhaps as we were 31 and 35 or so and had two young children at the time, it seemed expensive to me.
Anyway, Charlotte, here in a link to the different classes and what they look like - it's definitely a beautiful trip - or at least I thought is was from Winnipeg to Vancouver.
https://www.seat61.com/train-from-toronto-to-vancouver.htm
The prices I could see looking online in the link are in US dollars. Perhaps as we were 31 and 35 or so and had two young children at the time, it seemed expensive to me.
156charl08
>147 Jackie_K: A Flat Place does sound good. I am wondering if she spends any time in Cambridgeshire, as I know that bit of fenland.
>148 vancouverdeb: >150 vancouverdeb: >151 elkiedee: >153 jessibud2: >154 vancouverdeb: No need.to apologise, I am enjoying reading about e everyone's travels! Having seen some documentaries from the trains going across Canada, I'm sure there are some options with beautiful views. I suspect I would have to save up, as I looked at prices last year when I was thinking about a trip, and they were pretty pricey. The travelling alone thing doesn't help either, as if you want to get a private space it gets very expensive solo. I couldn't sit all day either!
Deborah your mention of trains re fjords got me thinking. The Norwegian tourist board has lots of options for trips to the fjords, including a mix of boat and trains from Bergen (which the local airport even flies to). So that's tempting.
>149 MissBrangwen: I don't read as much NF as I want to either. I'm hoping this prize might help nudge me a bit for that. Though I have some on my shelf already! I did quite well with the Toussaint biography as I set myself a 1% a day target and just did that, until the last few chapters where it became much easier to read as the author was pulling threads together more.
>152 Berly: There wasn't any room to add how many. I once heard two booksellers discussing how people could possibly be buying enough books for the discount card (buy 10×£10 get a "free" £10) to be worthwhile. It made me laugh to myself (and now think about how underpaid booksellers are).
>148 vancouverdeb: >150 vancouverdeb: >151 elkiedee: >153 jessibud2: >154 vancouverdeb: No need.to apologise, I am enjoying reading about e everyone's travels! Having seen some documentaries from the trains going across Canada, I'm sure there are some options with beautiful views. I suspect I would have to save up, as I looked at prices last year when I was thinking about a trip, and they were pretty pricey. The travelling alone thing doesn't help either, as if you want to get a private space it gets very expensive solo. I couldn't sit all day either!
Deborah your mention of trains re fjords got me thinking. The Norwegian tourist board has lots of options for trips to the fjords, including a mix of boat and trains from Bergen (which the local airport even flies to). So that's tempting.
>149 MissBrangwen: I don't read as much NF as I want to either. I'm hoping this prize might help nudge me a bit for that. Though I have some on my shelf already! I did quite well with the Toussaint biography as I set myself a 1% a day target and just did that, until the last few chapters where it became much easier to read as the author was pulling threads together more.
>152 Berly: There wasn't any room to add how many. I once heard two booksellers discussing how people could possibly be buying enough books for the discount card (buy 10×£10 get a "free" £10) to be worthwhile. It made me laugh to myself (and now think about how underpaid booksellers are).
157charl08
>155 Caroline_McElwee: I cross-posted and missed you. I got Thunderclap on the library's digital system I think a couple of weeks ago, but just Too Many Books right now. I kind of wish prizes like these had a paperback requirement.
158charl08
One of the books on the women's prize NF list, Patricia Evangelista Some People Need Killing: A Memoir of Murder in the Philippines is 99p on UK kindle books.
159BLBera
>158 charl08: Thanks Charlotte, that was one that looked interesting.
160charl08
>159 BLBera: Ive only just read the introduction, but already very conscious of yet another part of the world I know nothing about. So it will be an education.
I went to a local Oxfam Bookshop on Saturday and added the following pre-loved books to my book piles:
Memoirs of Hadrian (this might be one we read in the translated fiction group - it's on the list)
Madwoman
Wrecked
They also had a lovely copy of The Lost Children Archives, which I have read, but don't own. So I do now.
I went to a local Oxfam Bookshop on Saturday and added the following pre-loved books to my book piles:
Memoirs of Hadrian (this might be one we read in the translated fiction group - it's on the list)
Madwoman
Wrecked
They also had a lovely copy of The Lost Children Archives, which I have read, but don't own. So I do now.
161charl08
Treasures of the Spanish Civil War
An odd little book, drawing on the author's family history as a descendent of Spanish refugees from the civil war (living in France). Collected, sometimes connecting short stories include brutal accounts of concentration camps and executions (those who are squeamish about pet torture may want to skip this one) but also darkly comic stories, such as a whole beach being taken over and dug up by a village after veterans' go looking for "secret" hidden gold. The style was a bit too "poetic" and sometimes opaque for me to say that I enjoyed it, but an interesting read.
A reminder, if one were needed, of the long aftershocks of a conflict.
An odd little book, drawing on the author's family history as a descendent of Spanish refugees from the civil war (living in France). Collected, sometimes connecting short stories include brutal accounts of concentration camps and executions (those who are squeamish about pet torture may want to skip this one) but also darkly comic stories, such as a whole beach being taken over and dug up by a village after veterans' go looking for "secret" hidden gold. The style was a bit too "poetic" and sometimes opaque for me to say that I enjoyed it, but an interesting read.
A reminder, if one were needed, of the long aftershocks of a conflict.
"Do you think we'll find it?" asked Rico.
The Schoolmaster, whose words had weight, replied amid silence: "The information is solid. The Comandante has been on the spot for ten years. He had the secret location from the lips of old Liberto himself - the very one who dug the hole."
After this pronouncement in the Schoolmaster's authoritative tone the issue never came up again. It was as though any further doubts would somehow jinx the operation. The Schoolmaster, who owed this sobriquet to having trained organizers at the union, had handed out a few copies of L'Espoir, a paper that everyone took but nobody read - the news was always too bad; and today, as ever, the only subject was betrayals and bad turns of events.
162charl08
Cahokia Jazz
I enjoyed this murder mystery "alternative history" set in a US where (as the afterword clarifies) an earlier version of smallpox helps inoculate the indigenous population against the deathly European version. A WW1 veteran and jazz-piano player is called to an apparently ritualistic "Aztec" killing with his dodgy partner. The case has huge ramifications for the delicate balance of power in the city. But who really committed the crime - and why? Is all what it seems?
(Of course not, or we wouldn't have a novel!)
I enjoyed this murder mystery "alternative history" set in a US where (as the afterword clarifies) an earlier version of smallpox helps inoculate the indigenous population against the deathly European version. A WW1 veteran and jazz-piano player is called to an apparently ritualistic "Aztec" killing with his dodgy partner. The case has huge ramifications for the delicate balance of power in the city. But who really committed the crime - and why? Is all what it seems?
(Of course not, or we wouldn't have a novel!)
They were let in through a locked door at the end of the row of windows, and the supervisor gathered a ring of clerks around them to study the photo.
'What would he have been wearing?' she asked, with a quelling glance.
Barrow covered Sammy's body with his hand, so only the grinning, rat-like face showed. 'Cheap suit, probably a hat with some kind of loud band round it,' he said.
'Oh yes,' said a middle-aged male clerk with a fastidious air. 'I remember him. Positively garish. Orange stripes round the hat, and a tie to match. I noticed him because the outfit was not refined, or first-class in any way, and yet he bought a Pullman ticket. Which is not the usual combination. He was very pleased with himself What do you want him for, crimes against fashion?'
'Or possibly somethin' even more serious,' said Drummond.
163christina_reads
>162 charl08: I've been meaning to read more Francis Spufford -- I loved Golden Hill! Glad you enjoyed this one.
164charl08
>163 christina_reads: It's an interesting set up for a murder mystery. Think The Yiddish Policeman's Union.
Reading Some People Need Killing about state ordered killing in the Phillipines.
Reading Some People Need Killing about state ordered killing in the Phillipines.
Money was tight, but there were books. When my mother’s girlhood collection ran out, she sent me to my grandfather and his numbered bookshelves. I lived for most of my adolescence on rafts floating down the Mississippi, inside little houses on prairies, and around wood fires in the New England and Chicago and London of my imagination. I was Meg Murry. I was Jo March. I was Scout and Mowgli and Anne Shirley and Lyra Silvertongue and for one glorious summer Sherlock Holmes, with my father playing my indulgent Watson. My country may have thrown off the shackles of imperialism, but I was a volunteer colony of one.
165Tess_W
>164 charl08: Sounds so good! Off to locate...........
166MissBrangwen
>164 charl08: What a fantastic quote! Now I had to add this one to the WL, too :-)
167BLBera
>162 charl08: This sounds interesting.
>164 charl08: What a great quote.
I know I ask every year and we never do a good job but any predictions for the women's prize for fiction? :)
>164 charl08: What a great quote.
I know I ask every year and we never do a good job but any predictions for the women's prize for fiction? :)
168vancouverdeb
You've been doing a lot of great reading , Charlotte. Some People Need Killing sounds interesting. I put a hold on The Dictionary People: The Unsung Heroes Who Created the Oxford English Dictionary at my library. It sounds interesting to me.
>167 BLBera: I am also curious what will be on the Women's Prize for Fiction! I've even watched a couple of youtube video's , but how much weight to put on them ? I'll wait until Erik Karl Anderson has his predictions up. I find him the most accurate, but still, who knows?
I looked into the tours of the Norwegian Fjords and it looks beautiful and affordable, Charlotte.
>167 BLBera: I am also curious what will be on the Women's Prize for Fiction! I've even watched a couple of youtube video's , but how much weight to put on them ? I'll wait until Erik Karl Anderson has his predictions up. I find him the most accurate, but still, who knows?
I looked into the tours of the Norwegian Fjords and it looks beautiful and affordable, Charlotte.
169charl08
>165 Tess_W: Hope you can find a copy.
>166 MissBrangwen: I'm about a third of the way through and it's just an astonishing account of corruption at the heart of a state.
>167 BLBera: I have no idea! It's bad enough trying to work out from the longlist what might make it through. I'd love to see a list of all those entered by publishers.
>168 vancouverdeb: I loved the recording you shared of the youtuber last year with the shortlist (I think? I might have mixed this up). He seemed so shocked by what was chosen.
>166 MissBrangwen: I'm about a third of the way through and it's just an astonishing account of corruption at the heart of a state.
>167 BLBera: I have no idea! It's bad enough trying to work out from the longlist what might make it through. I'd love to see a list of all those entered by publishers.
>168 vancouverdeb: I loved the recording you shared of the youtuber last year with the shortlist (I think? I might have mixed this up). He seemed so shocked by what was chosen.
170vancouverdeb
Yes, that booktuber is Erik Karl Anderson. He seems like such a nice guy. So far he has not booktubed about the possible Women's Longlist contenders, but I check once a day or so.
171vancouverdeb
Here is a link to Erik Karl Anderson. Look at the nice smile! https://www.youtube.com/@EricKarlAnderson/videos
172charl08
I've been a bit slack on the book reports. Reading over the weekend was a bit spotty, as my brother came to visit and we enjoyed a fancy meal out at a local restaurant that had recently been on the 'hairy bikers' (not the reason I booked it!)
16. The Invisible Web (New to me)
Crime fiction set in Germany. A solar power company is the victim of industrial espionage, but attempts to investigate by the local police are hampered by arguments over jurisdiction with the national intelligence agency. This was part 5 (I think) of a story that very much drew on the main character's back story, so probably not the best one to pick up first!
17. Tsubaki Chou: Lonely Planet 6 (Manga)
Continuing installment in this manga series about a girl who attempts to fix her dad's financial situation by becoming a housekeeper for a writer. Oddly, these fictional manga writers never seem to be middle-aged and boring (!)
18. Superstar: snowbound (Familiar faces)
Another hockey romance from Kate Meader, set in the same fictional group of characters. A quick read. Not a series for those who like their fictional 'doors closed'.
19. Almond (Women writers in translation)
I hadn't realised this Korean fiction was explicitly YA, a comping of age story . The narrator explains at the start of the book that he has a particular brain condition meaning that his emotional responses are limited. He recounts his problems at school, and his mum's work to try and give him some clues about social interactions. His mum and his gran run a bookshop, and there are some nice reflections on books and their entertainments. However, things change after a violent incident at Christmas, and our narrator must decide who to trust for himself.
20. Reykjavik (New to me)
More interesting for the authors than the actual novel, I think. One is the (was the?) PM of Iceland. A historical disappearance from the 1950s on a remote island near Rejkavik continues to be unsolved until a young journalist gets involved with the case in the 1980s.
16. The Invisible Web (New to me)
Crime fiction set in Germany. A solar power company is the victim of industrial espionage, but attempts to investigate by the local police are hampered by arguments over jurisdiction with the national intelligence agency. This was part 5 (I think) of a story that very much drew on the main character's back story, so probably not the best one to pick up first!
17. Tsubaki Chou: Lonely Planet 6 (Manga)
Continuing installment in this manga series about a girl who attempts to fix her dad's financial situation by becoming a housekeeper for a writer. Oddly, these fictional manga writers never seem to be middle-aged and boring (!)
18. Superstar: snowbound (Familiar faces)
Another hockey romance from Kate Meader, set in the same fictional group of characters. A quick read. Not a series for those who like their fictional 'doors closed'.
19. Almond (Women writers in translation)
I hadn't realised this Korean fiction was explicitly YA, a comping of age story . The narrator explains at the start of the book that he has a particular brain condition meaning that his emotional responses are limited. He recounts his problems at school, and his mum's work to try and give him some clues about social interactions. His mum and his gran run a bookshop, and there are some nice reflections on books and their entertainments. However, things change after a violent incident at Christmas, and our narrator must decide who to trust for himself.
I also felt comfortable at our bookstore-home. Other people might say they "like" it or even "love" it, but in my vocabulary, "comfort- able" was the best scale. To be more specific, I felt connected to the smell of old books. The first time I smelled them, it was as if I'd encountered something I already knew. I would flip open the books and smell them whenever I could, while Granny nagged me, asking what the point of smelling musty books was.
Books took me to places I could never go otherwise. They shared the confessions of people I'd never met and lives I'd never witnessed. The emotions I could never feel, and the events I hadn't experienced could all be found in those volumes.
20. Reykjavik (New to me)
More interesting for the authors than the actual novel, I think. One is the (was the?) PM of Iceland. A historical disappearance from the 1950s on a remote island near Rejkavik continues to be unsolved until a young journalist gets involved with the case in the 1980s.
The Icelanders couldn't get enough of crime stories, Sunna thought. She remembered how she and Valur had got together every Tuesday without fail for six weeks last winter to catch all the episodes of the new British TV series about Inspector Dalgliesh, called Cover Her Face. The whole time it was on, their circle of friends had been obsessed with trying to guess the identity of the murderer. Towards the end of the series, Sunna had remarked to Valur that she could see herself writing a crime story one day. Yeah, right, Valur had said scorn- fully. Like anyone would want to read a detective story set in Iceland.
173charl08
>170 vancouverdeb: >171 vancouverdeb: Hi Deborah - I missed you. Thanks for posting the link. I still find the idea of book youtubers new, but he does seem to be enjoying what he does.
174BLBera
>169 charl08: I know, Charlotte. I am never right in my predictions. I would say The Fraud by Zadie Smith might have a chance as well as Tom Lake, and The Vaster Wilds, and now I have probably cursed all those books.
175vancouverdeb
I posted the link to Erik Karl Anderson's predictions for the Women's Prize Longlist on my thread, Charlotte.
>174 BLBera: Beth, your three predictions were among the two people on Erik Karl Anderson's prediction list. Best of luck!
>174 BLBera: Beth, your three predictions were among the two people on Erik Karl Anderson's prediction list. Best of luck!
177charl08
The Lazarus Solution
Translated crime fiction from Norway but largely set in Stockholm during the second world war. Sweden's "neutrality", offering refugee status to Norwegians whilst also permitting the nazis to ship soldiers across their state is a key part of the plot here. A member of the resistance is killed whilst transporting materials across the border, and an unlikely agent is asked to investigate a leak.
Translated crime fiction from Norway but largely set in Stockholm during the second world war. Sweden's "neutrality", offering refugee status to Norwegians whilst also permitting the nazis to ship soldiers across their state is a key part of the plot here. A member of the resistance is killed whilst transporting materials across the border, and an unlikely agent is asked to investigate a leak.
178charl08
Disaster Dates and Lucky Escapes
A quick read - humorous GN based on a webcomic about awful online dating.
A quick read - humorous GN based on a webcomic about awful online dating.
179charl08
Some people need killing : a memoir of murder in my country
The author worked as a journalist as a plague of extra judicial killings took place across the Phillipines, justified as part of a "war on drugs". There are strong echoes here of other populist politicians, as she interviewed voters and their reasons for ignoring the clear indicators the President gave that the was planning to give the police carte blanche to kill thousands. Most deaths were covered up with accusations of resisting arrest or attacking police. She shows how the practice was so prevalent as to even shape the language.
Highly recommended.
In the early years of the war, I fell in love, I learned to ride a bike, and I discovered firsthand just how much blood could fit on the inside of a grown man. The world kept turning, and people kept dying, and for the next few years I sat under the leafy green and wrote about the dead.
The author worked as a journalist as a plague of extra judicial killings took place across the Phillipines, justified as part of a "war on drugs". There are strong echoes here of other populist politicians, as she interviewed voters and their reasons for ignoring the clear indicators the President gave that the was planning to give the police carte blanche to kill thousands. Most deaths were covered up with accusations of resisting arrest or attacking police. She shows how the practice was so prevalent as to even shape the language.
The entry for the verb salvage in the Oxford English Dictionary offers three primary definitions. The first is "to make salvage of; to save or salve from shipwreck, fire, etc." The second, limited to American and Australian use, is to take or "make use of unemployed or unattended property." The third definition is the most current: "to save and collect (waste material, esp. paper) for recycling."
There is, however, a fourth mean- ing. In 2015 the OED appended what it called a draft definition to the official entry.
Salvage: Philippine English. "To apprehend and execute (a suspected criminal) without trial.
Highly recommended.
180BLBera
>179 charl08: This one did catch my eye, Charlotte. It sounds like a harrowing read.
The Lazarus Solution sounds interesting as well. I don't think I've read any WWII fiction set in Sweden.
The Lazarus Solution sounds interesting as well. I don't think I've read any WWII fiction set in Sweden.
181vancouverdeb
I'm so glad online dating wasn't a thing in my day. I did have a close friend who met her lifelong partner through a newspaper ad, back when that was sort of a thing. I don't think they have ever married. I'm about 40 pages into Wolf Hall and trying to decided if it is for me. It's seems interesting, but long and I don't much history from the time, so that makes it a little more complex. Any opinions there ?
182charl08
>180 BLBera: I had a digital copy, so it was easier (for me) to read sections and then return to lighter fare.
>181 vancouverdeb: I liked it Deborah, but it was a while back so I remember very little about it, beyond enjiying all the historical detail.
I DNF'd her A Place if Greater Safety as it was very long and involved, but her Beyond Black was so creepy it left a strong impression, really well done. So mixed experiences.
>181 vancouverdeb: I liked it Deborah, but it was a while back so I remember very little about it, beyond enjiying all the historical detail.
I DNF'd her A Place if Greater Safety as it was very long and involved, but her Beyond Black was so creepy it left a strong impression, really well done. So mixed experiences.
183Tess_W
>172 charl08: I have Jonasson's Snowblind on my TBR. If I like it, I will look this one up!
184Jackie_K
>179 charl08: This was a deal on bookbub the other day, so I picked it up then. It sounds harrowing, but very important.
185charl08
>183 Tess_W: I read that a while ago, but don't remember much about it.
>184 Jackie_K: Yes, it was just 99p on kindle. Which seems even more of a bargain now!
I think I am DNFing I will have vengeance. I'm half way through and finding the style super off-putting. Long long sentences and a kind of directionless plot.
>184 Jackie_K: Yes, it was just 99p on kindle. Which seems even more of a bargain now!
I think I am DNFing I will have vengeance. I'm half way through and finding the style super off-putting. Long long sentences and a kind of directionless plot.
186charl08
NYT hasn't convinced me to carry on, quite.
The Wife Has Committed Murder but It’s the Husband Who Scares Her Lawyer https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/13/books/review/vengeance-is-mine-marie-ndiaye.h...
The Wife Has Committed Murder but It’s the Husband Who Scares Her Lawyer https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/13/books/review/vengeance-is-mine-marie-ndiaye.h...
187charl08
I was going to return Wound unread as its due back to the library today and had had its full quota of renewals. I ended up picking it up to read instead. I read it thinking it was straight memoir and then when adding it to LT realised the US edition billed it as "a novel". I suspect I'd have had less patience with it had I realised it was (auto)fiction. The main character explores her relationship with her mum as she travels with her ashes back to their home in Siberia. There's some reflection here on LGBT+ identity in Russia, homophobia, writing.
But it all gets a bit meta for me as she folds in anxieties about writing the book, whether it's a "proper" book or not.
This won awards in the original Russian but for me about 100 pages too long.
I write her letters every day. I write as though she lived on me other side of the river and a limping postwoman would eliver the post. The postwoman has a lilac beret with a brooch pinned to it, beige woollen tights, and rubber boots splashed with grey spring mud. Heavyset and limping, she walks at first along the riverbank and then steps from the bank onto the water. And she walks and walks until her outline disappears from my sight. I write her letters every day. There are shards of rough amphorae, bits of skin, and everything else that seems to me to be signs of a naïve farewell or forgiveness.So terribly sad, mournful.
But it all gets a bit meta for me as she folds in anxieties about writing the book, whether it's a "proper" book or not.
This won awards in the original Russian but for me about 100 pages too long.
I felt that the experiences I wrote about weren't really mine, and that I had no right to talk or write about them. And I was afraid of disconcerting other people, taking up too much space in their hearts or minds. I wanted to go unnoticed, but writing burst out of me as something that couldn't be concealed. I can't conceal my own self, become invisible. And writing can't stand invisibility.
For half a year I've been writing my story. And everything in it seems unimportant, ragged, substandard. The narrative melts into the running streams of memory. The rhythm is off. Poems and essays have made their way into the book. The book falls to pieces and it appears to be neither elegant nor comprehensible; it in no way resembles the books people are supposed to read and love. It doesn't have any actual constructed characters or complex plotlines.
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The second one I finished this weekend was The Tattoo Murder Case which is classic era crime except it's set in Tokyo, still recovering after the destruction of WW2. I still find it really difficult to work out the length of books in borrowbox, and this one was so much longer than I thought. There was lots about Japanese tattooing traditions (I loved the description of western tattoos as "sushi") mixed up with a classic "locked room" mystery that Jonathan Creek would have appreciated. And then every so often a reference to destroyed buildings, people missing education, the American occupying forces.
Here's an image from the British Museum of Benten Kozo. You can just about see a tattoo.
Via: https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/image/810357001
Three doors away from the Matsushita house lived a firefighter who was extremely colorful, in every sense of the word. He was a young man in his late thirties, a true Edoite, Tokyo born and bred. As was customary for men in his outdoor, dangerous type of work-firemen, roofers, high-altitude construction workers he had a splendid tattoo on his back. The tattoo was a portrayal of Benten Kozo, a tattooed transvestite robber celebrated in Kabuki drama, who had such a beautiful face that he was able to masquerade convincingly as a woman. The fireman himself had a rough, manly, rather squashed- looking face.
Here's an image from the British Museum of Benten Kozo. You can just about see a tattoo.
Via: https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/image/810357001
190mdoris
>189 charl08: Enjoy!
191vancouverdeb
Enjoy Chenneville, Charlotte. An interesting Women's Longlist earlier today.
192charl08
Thanks Mary and Deborah.

Women's Prize for Fiction Long List 2024
The Blue Beautiful World by Karen Lord (requested from the library)
And Then She Fell by Alicia Elliot (asked the library to buy)
8 Lives of a Century-Old Trickster by Mirinae Lee (requested from the library)
Restless Dolly Maunder by Kate Grenville (requested from the library)
Western Lane by Chetna Maroo Read
The Wren, The Wren by Anne Enright Read
A Trace of Sun by Pam Williams Don't fancy the topic of this one, will probably wait until it makes the shortlist.
Ordinary Human Failings by Megan Nolan (will try a kindle sample)
Hangman by Maya Binyam (asked the library to buy)
Soldier Sailor by Claire Kilroy (requested from the library)
The Maiden by Kate Foster (requested from the library)
In Defense of the Act by Effie Black (will try a kindle sample)
River East, River West by Aube Ray Lescure (requested pre list announcement - go me!)
Brotherless Night by V.V. Ganeshanathan (requested from the library)
Enter Ghost by Isabella Hammad (online copy via the library)
Nightbloom by Peace Adzo Medie (disappeared from the library reservation shelf. Everyone is very mystified by this. New one ordered.)

Women's Prize for Fiction Long List 2024
The Blue Beautiful World by Karen Lord (requested from the library)
And Then She Fell by Alicia Elliot (asked the library to buy)
8 Lives of a Century-Old Trickster by Mirinae Lee (requested from the library)
Restless Dolly Maunder by Kate Grenville (requested from the library)
Western Lane by Chetna Maroo Read
The Wren, The Wren by Anne Enright Read
A Trace of Sun by Pam Williams Don't fancy the topic of this one, will probably wait until it makes the shortlist.
Ordinary Human Failings by Megan Nolan (will try a kindle sample)
Hangman by Maya Binyam (asked the library to buy)
Soldier Sailor by Claire Kilroy (requested from the library)
The Maiden by Kate Foster (requested from the library)
In Defense of the Act by Effie Black (will try a kindle sample)
River East, River West by Aube Ray Lescure (requested pre list announcement - go me!)
Brotherless Night by V.V. Ganeshanathan (requested from the library)
Enter Ghost by Isabella Hammad (online copy via the library)
Nightbloom by Peace Adzo Medie (disappeared from the library reservation shelf. Everyone is very mystified by this. New one ordered.)
193BLBera
>189 charl08: Enjoy!
>192 charl08: It looks like most are available in your library. There are four that aren't available at mine. I may try to get the ones that are first and then see what is shortlisted. I've only read two as well.
>192 charl08: It looks like most are available in your library. There are four that aren't available at mine. I may try to get the ones that are first and then see what is shortlisted. I've only read two as well.
194charl08
>193 BLBera: Yes, they are very good.
I am struggling at the moment with feeling very tired, so not reading as much. Blood tests came back negative, so no idea what's going on.
I am struggling at the moment with feeling very tired, so not reading as much. Blood tests came back negative, so no idea what's going on.
195vancouverdeb
I had trouble with Nightbloom at my library too, Charlotte. I was in there looking for it and discovered it was filed with non - fiction. The librarian corrected that for me, but the book was no where to be found, so I purchased my own copy, which I just started reading . I picked up a couple of holds today from the library, Restless Dolly Maunder and The Wren, The Wren.
I started a bit of thread about the Women's Prize Longlist here - https://www.librarything.com/topic/359062#n8454054
Sorry to read you are struggling with tiredness. I hope they can soon find the cause and the solution.
I started a bit of thread about the Women's Prize Longlist here - https://www.librarything.com/topic/359062#n8454054
Sorry to read you are struggling with tiredness. I hope they can soon find the cause and the solution.
197vancouverdeb
>196 charl08: Thanks for making the list, Charlotte. They are always so fun !
This topic was continued by Charlotte's garden of reading in 2024 #2.

