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1jamessanderson
The greatest all-time ever novel? I vote for Tolstoy's 'Anna Karenina.' What say ye?
Jim
Jim
3Gail.C.Bull
Greatest novel of all time? Wow. That's a tall order. I'm going to have to think about this.
7jamessanderson
I confess, I've never read 'Independent People' so I don't have the basis upon which to compare. :) Jim
8thorold
>5 rocketjk:
How do we know that "the greatest all-time ever novel" has already been written?
How do we know that "the greatest all-time ever novel" has already been written?
9Booksloth
Sorry to be so predictable folks - gotta be Middlemarch (so far).
10jnwelch
I love Middlemarch, but I'll be predictable, too, and pick Pride and Prejudice.
11thorold
Hmmm.
Middlemarch — too provincial
Independent People — too woolly
Baa from the madding crowd — even woollier
The Pickwick Papers — too much tomato sauce
Pride and Prejudice — too girly
Nights at the circus — too strange
Don Quixote — too obvious
Ulysses — even more obvious
Kim — too imperialist
Howards End — too condescending
The luck of the Bodkins — too good
Die Blechtrommel — too noisy
La vie, mode d'emploi — too instructive
The good soldier — too ambiguous
The good soldier Svejk — too unfinished
I give up.
I give up.
12AlexandraRobbins
Is it possible to compare one genre of novel to another, though? (ie scifi, fantasy, comedy, tragedy, etc...)
13reading_fox
Cyteen but #5 is definetly a worth contender.
20AnnaClaire
Pride and Prejudice must be Jane Austen's most read book (followed by Sense and Sensibility), but I think her best novel is Persuasion.
21jamessanderson
The definition of a novel is that it is a long story that has something wrong with it. So to make the list of #11 at least puts them in contention.
23Menagerie
We Were The Mulvanneys by Joyce Carol Oates
Middlesex by Jeffrey Eugenides
Touchstones are not working for some reason.
Middlesex by Jeffrey Eugenides
Touchstones are not working for some reason.
24Booksloth
#23 Oooh, two goodies there. Not sure I'd call them the greatest books ever (but then I haven't read every book in the world) but they are both superb reads.
25Jennifer_Austen
>11 thorold: You're so humorous. LOL But I do think Pride and Prejudice is perfect . I love love love love love this book.
26marianapdias
> 11
Just out of curiosity, what "too much tomato sauce" stands for?
And mine is The cellist of Sarajevo ;)
Just out of curiosity, what "too much tomato sauce" stands for?
And mine is The cellist of Sarajevo ;)
27AnnaClaire
>26 marianapdias:
Beats me. The Pickwick Papers isn't tagged "tomato sauce" -- or even "tomatosauce" (I checked) -- so it isn't going to be obvious.
Beats me. The Pickwick Papers isn't tagged "tomato sauce" -- or even "tomatosauce" (I checked) -- so it isn't going to be obvious.
28thorold
>27 AnnaClaire:
If it hasn't been thus tagged, it should have been...
It's a reference to the trial scene in Ch.34, where Mr Serjeant Buzfuz, appearing for the plaintiff, manages to persuade the jury that a note from Pickwick to his landlady should be read as a declaration of love. The note reads: "Dear Mrs. B.--Chops and tomato sauce. Yours, PICKWICK."
If it hasn't been thus tagged, it should have been...
It's a reference to the trial scene in Ch.34, where Mr Serjeant Buzfuz, appearing for the plaintiff, manages to persuade the jury that a note from Pickwick to his landlady should be read as a declaration of love. The note reads: "Dear Mrs. B.--Chops and tomato sauce. Yours, PICKWICK."
29fuzzi
I don't think I could pick ONE novel as the "greatest ever".
I believe that Pride and Prejudice is a great book, but the "greatest"?
On what should we base the term "greatest"? Best characters? Storyline? How much we enjoy it? Popularity?
For me, the greatest book for me is the one that I would choose if I could only choose one book to keep for the rest of my life, and that would be the Bible. There's something for everyone in it: murder, revenge, family dysfunction, faith, adultery, love, poetry, mystery, you name it.
But as far as a purely secular list goes, I'll name a few that should be on the top ten, in my opinion:
David Copperfield
The Lord of the Rings
To Kill A Mockingbird
The Dragonbone Chair and the rest of that series
The Jungle Books
The Thorn Birds
Shogun
Grimm's Fairy Tales
Nineteen Eighty-four (I hate this book, but I had to include it)
The Cardinal of the Kremlin
I've never read Huckleberry Finn, so despite it being on any number of "best" lists, I cannot include it.
I've read Gone With the Wind, but can't quite bring myself to put it on this list, as I think it is overrated.
Also rans include Pride and Prejudice and Anne of Green Gables.
I believe that Pride and Prejudice is a great book, but the "greatest"?
On what should we base the term "greatest"? Best characters? Storyline? How much we enjoy it? Popularity?
For me, the greatest book for me is the one that I would choose if I could only choose one book to keep for the rest of my life, and that would be the Bible. There's something for everyone in it: murder, revenge, family dysfunction, faith, adultery, love, poetry, mystery, you name it.
But as far as a purely secular list goes, I'll name a few that should be on the top ten, in my opinion:
David Copperfield
The Lord of the Rings
To Kill A Mockingbird
The Dragonbone Chair and the rest of that series
The Jungle Books
The Thorn Birds
Shogun
Grimm's Fairy Tales
Nineteen Eighty-four (I hate this book, but I had to include it)
The Cardinal of the Kremlin
I've never read Huckleberry Finn, so despite it being on any number of "best" lists, I cannot include it.
I've read Gone With the Wind, but can't quite bring myself to put it on this list, as I think it is overrated.
Also rans include Pride and Prejudice and Anne of Green Gables.
30Neverwithoutabook
I couldn't possibly pick a best...or even a favorite! I have commitment issues! ;)
31hthbooks
It's impossible to say, but if forced to pick, I would say "Great Expectations." It simply had all the elements of a good story, and all while being vastly entertaining.
33rocketjk
Upon further reflection, I will say Horton Hatches the Egg.
34lamplight
#33...You're on to something. For me, The Cat in the Hat got me interested in language and enjoying books. That's got to be considered pretty great!
35mlfhlibrarian
The Quincunx by Charles Palliser, and/or Wuthering Heights
37mainrun
If you forced me to pick the greatest novel ever it would be Cryptonomicon by Neal Stephenson or Hyperion by Dan Simmons. So I guess there is not one.
39faceinbook
The greatest novel ever ? Hm-m-m-m lets see
When it was 5 yrs old it was "Heidi"
At the age of 10 it was "The Mystery of the Hidden Staircase" by Carolyn Keene
At 16 yrs old it was "The Women's Room" by Marilyn French
At 20 yrs it was "This Other Eden" by Marilyn Harris
30 yrs old "The Confessions of Nat Turner" William Styron
40 yrs old "A Prayer for Owen Meany" by, John Irving
when I turned 50 I fell in love with Richard Russo and "The Risk Pool" became the "best novel of all time".
Now at the age of 60....I know better than to try and answer that question. ;>)
When it was 5 yrs old it was "Heidi"
At the age of 10 it was "The Mystery of the Hidden Staircase" by Carolyn Keene
At 16 yrs old it was "The Women's Room" by Marilyn French
At 20 yrs it was "This Other Eden" by Marilyn Harris
30 yrs old "The Confessions of Nat Turner" William Styron
40 yrs old "A Prayer for Owen Meany" by, John Irving
when I turned 50 I fell in love with Richard Russo and "The Risk Pool" became the "best novel of all time".
Now at the age of 60....I know better than to try and answer that question. ;>)
41ErikaParris
A great novel, to me, is a book that makes you think. So, for me it is "Night" Elie Weisel

