New Talk 1: New "topic" pages | General bugs

See:

* Overview and general comments : http://www.librarything.com/topic/116769
* Touchstone/about bugs : http://www.librarything.com/topic/116772

- If you click on Show on a post of someone you have ignored, the entire thread jumps to the top of the screen.

- The Back to Top button is missing (or at least I hope this is a bug.)

Was the link and 'message #' removed on purpose or is it something that will be added back after things settle down a little bit? I mean the part where you clicked and got a box with options such as 'set as unread'

The "last message" on this topic shows you when it was me.

The "preview" button doesn't seem to work. When I click on it, the "About" and "touchstones" boxes start to load, but I'm not seeing any preview of my post.

(Windows XP Professional/IE7)

Back-to-top button is . Do you want more?

Wow. I just posted and give four replies above me. Yipes.

>6 timspalding: Oh neat, no. That's fine. But people will need to learn that. It's not obvious.

Is this a bug?

I post a message. It shows up. If I want to post a second message, there is no "add message box", or even "reply" to my own post option. Does it take a longer wait, or refreshing page, or what?

Edit doesn't seem to work, either. I tried to edit my #5, but can't.

I wanted to add to it that, contrary to your statement that "9. Posts are always "there" immediately. No "wait for it" messages.", my posts are not showing up until I refresh the page.

Was the link and 'message #' removed on purpose or is it something that will be added back after things settle down a little bit? I mean the part where you clicked and got a box with options such as 'set as unread'

Click the "More" link. All actions relating to a post have been moved to that line, instead of having it in three places--reply line (lower left), flag controls (lower right), edit controls (upper-right), read/favorite/link controls (underneath the number). We think this is progress!

Never mind #3 found the 'More' link...

Edit doesn't seem to work, either. I tried to edit my #5, but can't.

Can you report on your browser, OS? Thank you.

Testing reply, and then edit.

Yeah edit's not working for me right this second, on Chrome

ETA: But now it is.

Lilithcat, does "reply" work for you?

"Edit" isn't working for me (Windows XP/IE) Also, many of the touchstones look strange

Define strange?

>Athabasca

IE 7?

When I'm posting, so far it's been every time in the New Features General and the Touchstone Bug thread, it shows the post number incremented by 1, rather than the actual post number. (So right now, if my post is #16, I would expect the message header to show #17 until I refresh the page.)
ETA: Turns out I was number 19, but it is currently showing as 20. Also, no trouble editing posts on my part.


Re: the Jump to Top button - it's kind of faded. Try darkening it a bit? I looked all over but didn't notice it because it really fades in next to the timestamp.

Re: previewing and "more" and "reply" - I'm not having any trouble. I'm on FF4 on XP right now.

> 12, 15

Windows XP Professional/IE7.

"reply" doesn't work, either.

IE7 - Yep, I think. touchstones now have the numbers showing??eg

When I'm posting, so far it's been every time in the New Features General and the Touchstone Bug thread, it shows the post number incremented by 1, rather than the actual post number. (So right now, if my post is #16, I would expect the message header to show #17 until I refresh the page.)

I don't understand. Can you say this a different way?

IE7 - Yep, I think. touchstones now have the numbers showing

Where? Touchstones show up about 50 places on the site.

Confirmed: IE7 is having problems showing the "reply" and "edit" feature. We are on it. We're pretty sure what it is.

I'd do a screenshot, but I recently f-ed up and reverted my computer to XP from Vista and no longer have my image editing programs.

Basically, when I post a reply to the thread and it does the Ajax thing and shows the message header, it has ##. keristars         Day, Time right?

But the message header doesn't show a consecutive number. If the previous post is #22, then my post shows #24, even if there isn't an intermediary post. If I refresh the page, then the post that was numbered 24 will properly be 23.

Touchstones are showing with numbers on previous posts:eg May 2011 544362::Still life by Louise Penny.

>25 keristars:

Is this general or just on some topic. That would help me to understand the cause of it.

27> So far, it has been every post in New Features I have made. Also, I remembered that I can use Print Screen and Paint, so I have a screenshot:



ETA: Actually, this response was numbered correctly. You may have fixed it.

Jump to first unread is doing what "old style talk" did and jumps to the last read message. Kind of annoying when the last unread message is really long and I don't see the first unread message on my screen.

>28 keristars:

Weird. That's mystifying. Will think about it.

Only had a chance to look at my own thread. Isn't all touchstones, but a good few are now showing as they would in HTML??

http://www.librarything.com/topic/107478

Update on IE7 reply/edit. It's working on our development server, so we're trying to figure out what minor difference there is. Stay sober.

Touchstones are showing with numbers on previous posts:eg May 2011 544362::Still life by Louise Penny.

This bug has been fixed.

Posting consecutive messages--for instance, this is message #1.

Posting consecutive messages--no, I had to hit reply in #32, I didn't get the add message box. (And there's no "reply" on one's own messages.)

Stay sober.

Dang, and I was planning to go out and party tonight. Spoilsport.

Also, my own messages are showing as "unread" in Talk.

>19 keristars:: I agree with keristars that the icon for jumping to the top of the page is too light. On a low-contrast monitor it just fades away. Why not make it the same intensity as the Star and Ignore images at the top?

> 38

Also, if the last message on the page is too long, the "jump to the top" arrow isn't visible, and it's then necessary to scroll up a bit to find it. Not a huge problem, but a bit of an inconvenience if the particular thread is one that appeals to verbose posters.

Numbering bug:

When I initially post a new message on a thread, the number that appears when the message is ajaxing in is one greater than the number that actually shows up. (For instance, unless someone else is posting simultaneously with this, I expect this to be #40 in the thread, but it will ajax in as #41, and remain that way until I reload.)

My list of books in my first message have all changed to the last one I added, but when I edit it, all the original titles are visible with the numbers and : before them: http://www.librarything.com/topic/106043
Is this a temporary thing?

Localization bugs:

The word "Touchstones" cannot be translated in a coupe of places.

In most languages of the world, adjectives change between singular and plural: "Unread" cannot be just one word, it must be "unread (singular)" and "unread (plural)". But both these complants are age-old, LT is full of both untranslatable words and adjectives with ony one form... :(

About page speed/size:

This topic has gone from 70,847 (70k) bytes to 47.645 (47k), a 32% improvement
The topic "The world will end on May 21st" has gone from 458,558 (458k) to 339,220 (339k), a 26% improvement

That's only counting the actual page. The CSS and JavaScript have improved considerably.

41> You might want to put that in the Touchstone Bug thread. It looks like a weird (maybe big) one.

Is this a temporary thing?

Yes. Will look at.

>41 Trifolia: Eek. Definitely a big one.

#41 I've a similar problem. I just edited an old post in my thread to add missing touchstones. When I saved it, the two newly added touchstones are showing correctly, but the rest of the touchstones for that post have been replaced by duplicates of one of the entries in the list (not the last one I had entered). See here.

Edited to add: Sorry, just realised this is a touchstone bug (I think) - will post on thread too.

The individual topic pages (like this one) say "You are a member of this group" regardless of whether you are or not. I've checked several "normal" (not standing) groups to confirm this. The main group page correctly reflects my non-membership.

Clicking on the "Jump to first unread" should produce the same result as clicking on the "Unread" portion of "Unread/messages" in the forum listing. However, it does not. I believe the new feature is working correctly and the forum listing link is now incorrect.

Here are two images:

Clicking on "Jump to first unread":



Clicking on "Unread" in forum listing:

The problems with IE7 not being able to see the posting box have been corrected. If you are still having problems posting from IE7 then give us the what fors.
(this post was posted with IE7...so, there)

Post #49 above was with IE8 using W7 64-bit, btw, if that matters.

Testing.

Both "reply" and "preview" now working fine.

One thing that seems to be missing is being able to grab a URL that will point to a particular post. Are those anchors going to be re-appearing, or do I now have to send folks to the discussion and tell them to scroll to a particular post number?

Oh ... in the words of Emily Litella: "Never mind ..."

I see that's hidden in behind the "More" link.

53> That URL is under "more" and then "Link"

The individual topic pages (like this one) say "You are a member of this group" regardless of whether you are or not

Will look into.

Clicking on the "Jump to first unread" should produce the same result as clicking on the "Unread" portion of "Unread/messages" in the forum listing. However, it does not. I believe the new feature is working correctly and the forum listing link is now incorrect.

Agreed. I'll look at fixing it when we release the new Talk tab.

53> That URL is under "more" and then "Link"

FWIW, while change is always discombobulating, I think it's easier to find now than before.

I agree with keristars and others that the jump-to-top arrow needs to be a little darker; it shows up on read messages pretty well, but on unread (blue headers) it's too close to the blue color, so it loses contrast.

It says 'You are a member of this group.' on any topic I open, whether or not I am a member, or even have ever posted to that group.

I agree with keristars and others that the jump-to-top arrow needs to be a little darker

ConceptDawg and I are in agreement too.

Notice: I'm going to eat dinner. Chris (ConceptDawg) is getting his kid, I think.

Is this a bug or a feature? Started by you shows up on the talk tab but not on the individual threads.

Robert

>60 Mr.Durick: I think (and hope!) that it's a bug.

>48 lorax:, 57

There's something Groucho Marx-ish about seeing
"This group does not accept members.
You are a member of this group."

(You are about to be eaten by a grue.)

Own messages still appear as "unread" in Talk, and still have that question about consecutive posts--could we get a "reply" link under our own posts too?

Oh. Add a message box appeared. Thanks.

6> Maybe a tooltip when you hover on the little arrow? If it just said Back to Top in there, it would be a reminder to those who use it infrequently and a way for those who don't know it to discover what the little arrow means.

Clicking to see a flagged message also jumps back to the top of the page.

As mentioned in #28 and #40 in this thread: the non-consecutive numbering of my new reply to a thread is still happening a bit haphazardly. I just noticed it (twice) in the Touchstone bug thread: http://www.librarything.com/topic/116772#2714369

I haven't noticed it in other replies recently, where the threads are 50+ messages long longer. (ETA: It happened in this reply, but it didn't happen earlier in replying to this thread, so who knows what's going on.) (ETA2: On the Touchstone bug thread, of my last four messages (through #31), 25, 27, and 31 were misnumbered before refreshing, but 29 was okay. So I have no idea what the common denominator is for this bug.)

Just noticed this bug:

If a post is hidden because you've blocked the member (and this may also be true for flagged posts), then if you click "(show)" to see the post, you are jumped to the top of the page and have to scroll back down to the post.

Okay, I'm blocking you!

While you're looking at lilithcat's #68... It used to be impossible to post immediately after someone you had blocked. You had to scroll up at least one message and use that 'reply' link.

Has this been "fixed" by the new 'Add a message' box?

>68 lilithcat:

Fixed.

>70 justjim:

Actually, it's been fixed more generally. Blocked posts still have the "reply..." button. I can see having them only show when you click "show," but it'd be a change and I can see it the other way too.

>71 timspalding:.1 Cool.

I have an interesting problem with touchstones:

a) Some books which had no problems with touchstones before now appear as e.g. "The Paris Wife" — no results" , and no options at all are given in the area to the right of the editing box. There is no hotlink either.
b) Trying to override the problem by manually inserting the work # doesn't work. Also, the work numbers don't appear when re-editing messages (i.e. in the editing window).
c) If the brackets aren't removed for the "no results" books, the book name is replaced with the mention "Touchstone error" like so: "Touchstone error by Paula McLain" when the message is posted.
d) Previous posts in which all the touchstones were working fine (in a list of books for example) will all of the sudden show a bunch of "no result" entries when re-edited and again, the "Touchstone error" mention will replace the name of the book.

FYI, I'm on Safari 5.0.5

>73 Smiler69:

Can you give me a post and number which has the problem that you haven't subsequently edited and changed?

Tim, here is a good example: http://www.librarything.com/topic/115308#2670838

Another interesting thing happened with that particular post though. I should start by saying that all the touchstones were fine to begin with. Now, there were 4 "no result" books out of the list, but I only left the brackets on Silas Marner and The Paris Wife and removed them from the other two books (The Professor and the Madman and In Search of Klingsor) so I wouldn't have to type in the other book titles all over again. But as you'll see, the touchstones then disappeared from other titles once I posted the message... strange...

eta: wait, just realized I don't understand the that you haven't subsequently edited and changed part. ?

eta: scratch that. I prepared that example specifically so you'd see the problems. No need to explain.

I am having much the same problem as Ilana (Smiler69) in #73. I have removed brackets so that at least titles will appear rather than "Touchstone Error" by Author.

But do you have the problem on a post you haven't edited or changed today? That's what Tim's looking for, I think.

Here's an interesting one.

A post which had a photo in it was deleted by the poster. The post shows "This post has been deleted by its author (show)" but the photo is still there.

Edit. Actually check out posts 28, 29 and 30 in that same thread. All have been deleted by the author but they are demonstrating different effects!

>77 keristars: Oh, whoops. Missed that point, keristars.

Then I guess my question would be: will these bugs fix themselves, or once everything is worked out, will I have to go and manually correct everything?

There's several posts in that thread that show "This post has been deleted..." and then still has content. Several were posted by countrylife (#138, I believe, is one).

Not sure if this has already been mentioned, but the right-hand-side group box says "This group does not accept members. You are a member of this group." .... which makes no sense.

Forgive me if this has already been covered, but I'm seeing a big discrepancy/weirdness on the summary versus messages on the thread:





Notice that it says the wrong person and the wrong time

Did Tim edit a post at 12:16am, perhaps?

ETA: Yes, he did - the first post: "Edited: Today, 12:16am"

>83 keristars:

Yup.

There's several posts in that thread that show "This post has been deleted..." and then still has content. Several were posted by countrylife (#138, I believe, is one).

Fixed.

83> Ah, okay, then. Seems to be a little weird to me to prioritize the person who edited their message to change "there" to "their" rather than the last person to make a new full length post. But then again, I'm not bothered to much by it since I guess there's not THAT much point to knowing the last person to post anyway. I probably would find it more interesting to know who started the thread.

I guess where it bugs me is that we have really good ways of reading posts we haven't read yet (blue versus salmon). But when it comes to edits we haven't read yet, we're completely in the dark. So I see a thread saying the last person is timspalding, but I go there and have to really dig to find the new timspalding content. I can see this being especially bizarre on the 200+ message threads.

Right. I think perhaps we should mark unread ones with blue headers. But it does present problems.

87> Yeah, don't have a particularly good suggestion for it, though I did talk about it long ago in an RSI:

http://www.librarything.com/topic/104111

From the @ thread, we found that HTML is no longer preserved through the edit of a post.

Here's a bug for you. Every time I post to a thread, even though I see my new post, it shows as unread. This is pretty annoying when I then go back to my talk tab to see if anything has updated in the meantime. I don't want to see my posts as unread:

One more thing Tim. I don't know which thread it was but you said if you edit a message it comes up as "Save" instead of "Post". I just replied to a message and it came up as "Save" instead of "Post" even though I wasn't editing.

81>

Yeah, the "You are a member" thing has been mentioned four or five times in this thread; it shows up on every topic page, regardless of whether or not you're a member. It's not just standing groups, either, it's universal.

I don't know if this is a bug or intentional, but it's definitely a "doesn't work as before".

It used to be that when I posted in a topic and then went back to the main Talk page, that topic showed all posts as read. Now, my post shows as unread, which is kind of silly, because I did read it when I wrote it.

93> I just noticed this as well.

I am finding that if I have marked more than one post as 'marked as read to here', the more recent marking does not cancel out previous one, ie if I use the 'jump to first unread post' button at the top of the page it will take me only as far as the first one I marked, even though I have subsequently read beyond that point and marked a later post.

Edited to add: refreshing page before attempting to jump to first unread post seems to help. Should the 'marking' be effective without having to refresh?

eg currently if I read to the end of a thread, but mark it as unread from part way through the thread and then go to the top of the page, the option still shows as 'jump to bottom (0 unread)', and only if I refresh the page do I see 'jump to first unread'.

Here's a bug for you. Every time I post to a thread, even though I see my new post, it shows as unread. This is pretty annoying when I then go back to my talk tab to see if anything has updated in the meantime. I don't want to see my posts as unread:

Fixed.

It's still possible, but not because of a bug. Rather, if the servers are very behind, it can show up wrong. But this should be quite rare.

One more thing Tim. I don't know which thread it was but you said if you edit a message it comes up as "Save" instead of "Post". I just replied to a message and it came up as "Save" instead of "Post" even though I wasn't editing.

VERY nice. Thanks. Good catch. It now works. The problem was that it was treating the message-reference that comes from "reply" as if it were the edit reference that comes from editing.

Yeah, the "You are a member" thing has been mentioned four or five times in this thread; it shows up on every topic page, regardless of whether or not you're a member. It's not just standing groups, either, it's universal.

Yup. Still broken. On the list.

It used to be that when I posted in a topic and then went back to the main Talk page, that topic showed all posts as read. Now, my post shows as unread, which is kind of silly, because I did read it when I wrote it.

Fixed. (See above)

Edited to add: refreshing page before attempting to jump to first unread post seems to help. Should the 'marking' be effective without having to refresh?

Yeah. Meh. I think it should go and change the link at the top. Added to my list.

Here's a bug for you. Every time I post to a thread, even though I see my new post, it shows as unread. This is pretty annoying when I then go back to my talk tab to see if anything has updated in the meantime. I don't want to see my posts as unread:

!@#$%

Still working on it.

I see that several of the problems with touchstones I mentioned before in #73 have been fixed, thanks for that.

Here are a couple more things:

- a touchstones which appears to work once the message is posted leads to a page stating "no author selected". See Lost and Found by Shaun Tan in the following message: http://www.librarything.com/topic/115308#2670836
- The list of touchstones, when editing a message, appear in a random order, as opposed to previously, when they appeared in the order they were listed, which made things much simpler.
- will we still be able to override touchstone problems by manually entering work numbers?
- when re-editing posts and saving, the page skips down to another, seemingly random message instead of showing the one that was just worked on.

again, I'm on Safari, 5.0.5

Here's another interesting bug I just noticed:

On the talk page, my thread appears as though the last message was posted by me because I edited a message at 12:46, when in fact the last message left on my thread was posted by someone else at 12:38

>97 timspalding:: Tim, I'll have to see if I can repeat it, but the bug of your own posts showing as unread just seemed a bit weirder.

a) I posted and went to my Home page. My post showed as unread.
b) I clicked on "unread" and it took me to my post which was the last one.
c) I went back to my Home page and now all show as having been read...but someone actually posted after I did (i.e., my name is not listed as the last poster).

>97 timspalding: Actually I haven't had any other problems with that since this morning. Figured you already fixed it!

Here's a bug for you. Every time I post to a thread, even though I see my new post, it shows as unread. This is pretty annoying when I then go back to my talk tab to see if anything has updated in the meantime. I don't want to see my posts as unread:

Fixed!

Cross posting this one: the @nickname thingy doesn't work on hyphenated usernames. It only picks up the text before the hyphen. Not sure about nicks that use underscores. I'll go do some snooping. Edited to add: Underscores are not a problem.

>103 clamairy:

Fixed.

¡Gracias!

My problem in #99 is the same as Tad's in #100. Also, what is the 'reply button" for?

By the way, don't mean to just bring up bugs; I also want to say congrats on making things so much speedier, amazing! :-)

Thanks!

In the new group box, it states you are a member of this group for every group I enter.
I even went to a group I know for a fact I'm not part of, and it still stated I was a member.

(XP/IE6 - work, XP/IE7 home)

Yup. Still working on that.

Bump my report at 89:

From the @ thread, we found that HTML is no longer preserved through the edit of a post.

> 109

I must say that there is something distinctly satisfying to one's ego when one is informed that one is a member of a group that doesn't accept members.

Heh.

New bit of weirdness: when I start a new thread and post my first message, it takes me to the following screen:

. . . basically, it does not show the message I posted. If I go out to the group or talk page and go back into that thread, it displays correctly -- it's just that first time after creating the thread that acts up.

113> I had that happen to me one time when just opening a thread. Couldn't figure out what I did to make it happen, though.

I know. Abby had it happen too. We're looking at it.

Is the weird order of touchstones considered a bug? When editing a post, I want to see touchstones in the order that they occur in the message, not in the order that they were added. Fixing a broken touchstone shouldn't change the order.

That's a bug. They should be in first-occurence order.

Some just posted to http://www.librarything.com/topic/18619 , yet the top still says "This topic is currently marked as "dormant"—the last message is more than 90 days old. You can revive it by posting a reply."

Interestingly though, the dormancy message is no longer orange.

Actually I just checked a thread that really is still dormant and the warning isn't orange there either.

Good. Added to my list. I'd fix it but I'm somewhere right now where I can't connect the right way.

Aaaargh. What am I, invisible?

Bump my report at 89:

From the @ thread, we found that HTML is no longer preserved through the edit of a post.

Sorry. I think I responded to it elsewhere. It's on my list. I have about 8 bugs on my list. It's one of them. Thanks.

Sorry if I've missed a reply to this - ditto #37. I see a nice bright blue 'unread' on the topics page, get all excited, then find it's the message I just posted - it's quite annoying.

Tim, are you still working on the bug where when you post it comes up as +1 of what your post number should be? (On refreshing it's the normal number.) It's happening when I post now.

(ETA, incidentally it didn't happen on this thread but it did happen on this one: http://www.librarything.com/topic/116809#2716548, where my post in response to you showed up as #15.)

123> Tim said that he fixed it so that it should happen only rarely now (when the servers get way behind).

#125 Thank you jjw, I obviously overlooked that reply.

Here's a bizarre one: in IE7, the post # and username on the left side of the header of the first post (normally linked to the post permalink and user profile, respectively) are unclickable; the mouse pointer doesn't change either. Note that this is not the case for the "back to top" link on the right side of the header, nor does it affect subsequent posts; only the initial post. (Works fine in Chrome.)

>127 saltmanz: For me (IE7) the message # is clickable, but the member name is not/

127/128> Does this happen in every thread, or only certain ones? Does it matter if someone with an L icon is the first poster?

>129 brightcopy: It doesn't work in any thread, with any poster. (I assume. I only checked 6 or so ;-)

I notice that while I can click on the message number for the first post, the link is misaligned from the actual #

130> Of the first 6 you checked, at least one of them was from someone without an L icon by their name, right? I only ask again because we're in the New features group and if you checked here pretty much every post would start with a staff member posting.

In any case, what browser and what operating system are you using? If you could also answer the same thing, saltmanz, that might help.

Norabelle and I both said IE7 already, and haven't the developers said they can tell browser/OS anyway? (Vista, in my case.)

It's the same in all threads I've checked, regardless of Group or user or LT affiliation. And yeah, as in #130, I can get the post# link, but it is indeed off to the left of the text; it's almost as if the link is being covered up by the text.

132> Thanks, somehow I developed a blind spot somewhere around "IE7" in your post. No idea why.

Well, I'm pretty stumped. I'll try to get ahold of a machine with IE7 on it, but until then I don't think I can offer anything more. I've dug into the html and css there's just nothing there I can figure out. It's going to be one of those "aha!" bugs.

When you click on a link (either touchstone or HTML) in the Preview box, the new page is opened up on the current browser tab (basically wiping out your in-progress message).

Also, when you click on a Touchstone from the list to the right of the "Add a message" box, the new page is opened up on the current browser tab (wiping out your in-progress message).

(correcting because at first I thought this was the other thread where we're discussing this)

135> Adding on to this: In the previous version of Talk, clicking on a touchstone opened it in a new tab/window.

After pressing "Post Message", the new message is initially displayed with a sequential number two higher than the previous message in the thread. When you reload the page, the number corrects itself. (Seen in both FF and Safari)

ETA: Sorry, I see this is already mentioned in 124 above

137> Actually, this bug was first reported (in this thread, at least) in message 19. Of course, repetition (especially from different sources) does provide emphasis...

>131 brightcopy: I'm on XP. And yep, I checked threads started by a variety of non-offical people, including myself.

Is is just me or is anyone else having trouble clicking the username link of the 1st post in a thread that would normally take you to their profile?

All the other user names are clicakble though.

140> Not just you. That's what most of posts 127-139 are talking about. Both the username and the message #.

But it's good (well, sorta!) to hear other people are having the problem. More data makes it more likely to figure out the problem. Are you using IE7, too? If not, what web browser. And what operating system?

I'm using Firefox 4 on windows 2007 operating system.

142> Interesting! Because before this it was always IE7. Hopefully it's caused by the SAME underlying problem and not two totally different ones. Thanks for posting the info.

I'm using FF 4 on XP and I the link to Tim's profile in the first message of this thread works for me.

I'm using the same specs as stretch and just experimented with Tim's OP. All worked perfectly. Maybe it's been fixed now?

ETA - But that's interesting - my message says it was posted an hour before the preceding one; this time travel just does my head in.

Still not working for me.

On the subject of it maybe working better on jumping to the right spot for the first unread message on the iPad - I'm afraid I'm not really seeing an improvement.

@brightcopy
Maybe I was just getting lucky, because you're right. It's not working very well today.

Fixed the bug that updated the last-message time when someone merely edited a post.

Fixed the bug that caused the post-number to sometimes be one more than it should have been.

150 by @timspalding> Is that code live? I ask because it just happened when I posted here:
http://www.librarything.com/topic/116996#2722148

The message was posted via Reply on message 1, rather than through the "Add a message" box.

ETA: And it just happened on this message, too.

test

ETA: It didn't happen when I added a whole new message via "Add a message", though.

145> I still have the OP problems with IE7.

Another bug involving deletion, though minor:

The Delete link is still available even after you've deleted your post. And if you click on it and click okay, your message changes from salmon to blue (even if in the middle of a read thread).

149 by @timspalding> Fixed the bug that updated the last-message time when someone merely edited a post.

I just edited a message in the thread that shall not be named, and my edit shows up as the latest posting (at least for the moment) on the Talk page.

my edit shows up as the latest posting (at least for the moment) on the

Hmmm. I was under the impression that's how it worked before--it updated the person but not the time. Wrong?

Okay, weird occurrence. I was posting to this thread:

http://www.librarything.com/topic/117037

Then I opened a new tab to the topic list and saw that keristars was posting while I was. So in that tab I clicked on that thread and saw messages 1 and 2. Then I closed that tab and went back to my original one to finish the edits. I clicked save and it posted my message. But it didn't show keristars #2 post. It only showed post #1 and my post #3.

It's now preserving HTML.

#158 by @timspalding> Excellent news!

157> Isn't that because it doesn't load posts made while you're posting yet? It's in message 10 or so of the main thread, Tim said it's something he wanted to do but hadn't got to yet. So if you want to see posts made while you had the thread open, you'll have to refresh it manually.

Topic now correctly shows whether or not you belong to the group.

Yay!

156 @timspalding> I was under the impression that's how it worked before--it updated the person but not the time. Wrong?

In the past, both the member name and the timestamp on the Talk page were updated only when a new message was posted (and not at all when a message was edited). I can point to a thread that still demonstrates this, if need be.

That said, the way it works now doesn't bother me at all.

When I posted #155, the name and date had both updated for a message that I had only edited (or at least that's what I thought had happened). I tried this again just now and only the name changed on the Talk page. That's ok by me--different than before, but in no way objectionable.

#160 by @keristars> No, I'm not talking about loading posts while posting/composing. I'm talking about loading all posts up to and including yours after you've submitted your posts. This normally works now, just like it did in the old Talk. But it failed for me.

Huh. for some reason, I was under the impression that if I replied to a thread, and someone else had posted in the meanwhile, I had to refresh the page to see those, even though my reply was posted. But it sounds like I'm imagining things.

In the past, both the member name and the timestamp on the Talk page were updated only when a new message was posted (and not at all when a message was edited). I can point to a thread that still demonstrates this, if need be.

Fixed, then.

Huh. for some reason, I was under the impression that if I replied to a thread, and someone else had posted in the meanwhile, I had to refresh the page to see those, even though my reply was posted. But it sounds like I'm imagining things.

No. It should bring them in now.

Groups now correctly enforce their posting rules.

You can now edit the subject of a topic for the first 10 minutes after you post a new topic.

Nice job!

167> Excellent!

>158 timspalding:

HTML preserved - excellent.

>167 timspalding:

Edit topic title - useful, but dangerous.

How do you think it will be 'dangerous', Noisy?

I can see that perhaps in something like Pro and Con or P&C (Religion) someone could posit a topic title that is claiming one extreme and after 9'59" change it to the other extreme.

I think that, in such robust groups, the truth* will out and the thread originator will be castigated and possibly put in the stocks.

*The truth of the thread title. There is no chance that the numbnuts that inhabit those threads will ever achieve any recognition of truth... oops, nevermind.

LOL.

OK, if not 'dangerous', then 'you should take an umbrella - it looks like rain'.

167 > Thank you for the topic title edit.. much appreciated!

If we notice a glaring error in the subject after 10 minutes could the thread originator ask a staff member to change it?

someone could posit a topic title that is claiming one extreme and after 9'59" change it to the other extreme.

Hasn't anyone seen Heathers? An inoccuous band request is going to be turned into a mass LibraryThing suicide!

If we notice a glaring error in the subject after 10 minutes could the thread originator ask a staff member to change it?

Yeah, but someone's asked us to do that about once every 6mo. So I'm not going to sweat it.

Yeah, but someone's asked us to do that about once every 6mo. So I'm not going to sweat it.

But I know of several cases in the last several months of threads with messed up subject lines that people wished to change but thought that they couldn't.

In the future advise these people to contact you (or jeremy?) if it's too late for them to change it themselves.

I have no idea if this is related to the new Talk changes or not, but....

The "dormant" thread-status seems to be either bugged or just cached, not sure which. http://www.librarything.com/topic/33994 was dormant but has a new reply, and it still says "This topic is currently marked as "dormant"—the last message is more than 90 days old. You can revive it by posting a reply." at the top of the page.

Yeah. Buggy. Fixing. Thanks.

That one was fixed, so I'm looking for another.

Fixed.

And when you edit the OP of a thread, it magically becomes post 0 (zero).

That's interesting!

Okay, back on my bug list.

Dear Tim,

Thanks FOR #167,
I have "buggered" a post heading a few times, and have always felt like an idiot.

Now I know that I really am an idiot if my Headings are still wrong :-)

Guido,

The bug where adding a new subject produces a page with "2" on it has been fixed.

When I click on favorite messages.. I get nothing.
I had a few in there, including one or two with basic html info.
Is this a bug?

I am using Firefox 3.6.17
and/or
Safari Version 5.0.5

Sorry if this has been addressed, but I didn't see it anywhere..

My Favorite Messages are gone, too.

Robert

My Favorite Messages are gone, too.

Fixed.

Messages I get to from 'my favorite' show 'add to favorites' under the more menu rather than 'remove from favorites'. If I click it, it removes it anyway. If I click again to re-add, /then/ it says 'remove from favorites'.

Fixed. Nice catch!

In most languages of the world, adjectives change between singular and plural: "Unread" cannot be just one word, it must be "unread (singular)" and "unread (plural)".

Thanks for fixing this one!

Thank you Tim :)

>191 anglemark:

Thanks. I'll keep a look-out for more.

I don't know if it's a bug, but it's really weird that when editing a long-ish post I end up looking at the middle of the following post after I submit it, instead of looking at the post I just edited.

187, Tim, not exactly fixed. When I click on Favorite Messages I get a list under the heading "Topics with favorite messages" which is probably a list of topics containing my favorite messages. It is not a list of my favorite messages which I believe it once was. I think I do remember clicking Favorite Message to scan a list for something I wanted to refer people to; I would like to have that back.

Robert

#195 I agree, having had a look to see if the same is true for me. Finding my original 'Favourite messages' in each of the threads they are contained in would be a long and tedious job, especially as you cannot tell from the title of thread necessarily what the subject of the favourite message was (it may have been quite incidental to the thread as a whole).

My Talk tab page lists only three threads. The rest of the page is blank. Safari 4.

> 197

I just posted about this in Bug Collectors. Tim said it was a by-product of this morning's spammer, and that he is working on it.

ETA link to bug report: http://www.librarything.com/topic/118441

Fixed that problem. Thanks!

The aggregation of "unread/messages" for "your posts" on IE8/XP comes out on the top of page 2 (in other words, I have to click on next in order for it to appear at the top of the page). I was wondering what happened to those messages! Weird...

>199 timspalding:. Tim, while you're fixing things can you please make it possible to ignore posts from the post page? It's really hindering my appreciation of the new talk changes.

Gah! It is driving me crazy that editing a long post leaves me in the middle of some completely different post down the thread. Please change this.

I agree with Zoe's comment above.

I've been having weird problems with touchstones again. When going back to edit an existing post, the touchstones which were fine before suddenly refuse to work. Here's an example http://www.librarything.com/topic/117246#2731320

I asked about this before, but will it be possible to manually type in the work number to override touchstone problems as was possible before the changes?

203> We have an RSI going for the Touchstone numbers, because it's a big thing that is sorely missed.

If the comment from Zoë you're referring to is about editing posts, she and I explained it to Tim in a thread earlier today, and he said he'd fix it so that it moves back to the bottom of the post you were editing. I haven't checked yet if that's been done or not, but it is planned if not. :)

Thanks Keri, I went and commented on the RSI thread. It seems that posts with several touchstones don't respond well when edited.