Alphabet Game with a twist - take 2

Skipped: X, Y, Z

List a song title (with a female name within the title ) in a alphabetical order sung by any singer, solo or group in English

Angie sung by

Mike Jagger and The
Rolling Stones

Barbara Ann - Beach Boys

Celia -- Ben Jonson

I see that the previous game was another one sabotaged by skoobdo.
Skippiing X, Y and Z in a short time, when there were perfectly good answers which could have been given.

This game is too easy as an alphabetic list of song titles including girl's names already exists at :
http://www.songfacts.com/category-songs_with_girls%27_names_in_the_title.php

The previous game continues from X at:

http://www.librarything.com/topic/127553

It looks to me like the previous game should be continued from N, not from X. The last 3 were: L for MendeL > M for BlooM,
and N for WreN. So I donʻt see how skipping X, Y and Z was relevant at that point.

>7 rolandperkins:: Roland, at the time that the post was made the previous game was on first names of celebrities. There was an attempt to hijack it by arbitrarily skipping X,Y and Z and starting this thread. So we went back and finished that game which you had set, before going on to the current one which at present is, as you say, at Jenny Wren.

continuing at:

http://www.librarything.com/topic/127553

My question is : Are we now starting this thread?

We could do that. Why not?
I'll put a post to that effect in the previous thread.
As I posted the "Z" in the previous game it looks like I get to choose the new set.
It must be something that we can't just look up answers on the web, just like the last two games were (excluding the one at the top of this thread).
As I was one of those accused in the previous game of being too competitive (I can't help it, that's what games are for), who has some suggestions for the next game? As it's my choice, I'll pick one of the suggestions. Does that sound fair?
And any suggestions as to whether it should be competitive or not?

On 7-8 (and some preceding):

Thanks, inkvisitor; Iʻm getting a very different printout today from yesterdayʻs; it looked at that time as if we were to continue from the -N of WreN as a characterʻs final letter. What you say (7) is clear now.

OK Roland. How about a suggestion from you on a possible new set. Your last one was good in that is was not too easy to look ahead, and not possible to look up a list on the web.

". . .I was. . . accused . . . of being too competitive" (10
)

Through curiosity, I tried to figure the average time between
posts during the sequence when all the posts were by only two players (you, inkvisitor, being one of them--about 12 posts altogether). The average time was about 9 minutes. This was a fast pace but no faster than Iʻve seen in other games. And it
certainly doesnʻt exclude anyone elseʻs
posting.

I love the competiveness. If it going to fast for someone they should just jump in when they can! It's a no pressure game.

On 13-14, etc.:

". . .they should just jump in when they can"

Exactly what I was trying to say, (and taking about 50 words
to do it.)

"Roland. . .a suggestion from you on a new set . . ."

Suggesting "a YOU WILL NEVER AGAIN READ __ __" alphabet:

An evil genie is empowered* to tell you "You will never again read another (author, character, or category) book __ __ ______!"
Whom/which would you most HATE to hear forbidden?

(e.g. C: You will never again read another Agatha CHRISTIE"
H: You will never again read another "HARRY Potter" book.:
P: You will nev er agasin read another POLICE Procedural.

*God forbid!

My A letter entry (16):

"You will never again read another Nelson Algren!"

Looks like the "competitive" complaint was a one-off and is now dealt with.

>16 rolandperkins: looks interesting, but just can't get my head round it.

How about literary place names? e.g. for V: Venice, in Death in Venice. (But you can't use that one now), or G for the play (not the film) "On Golden Pond".

Real or fictional. And not too many of Thomas Hardy's. I'll take a dim view. That would be too easy.

And no skipping, for at least 24 hours !!! (and then only one at a time)

Place, book, author.

To start (an easy one from Thomas Hardy):

Aldbrickham, Life's Little Ironies by Thomas Hardy

Brinkley Court in Right Ho, Jeeves and other novels by P. G. Wodehouse

Cannery Row in Cannery Row by John Steinbeck

Detroit in Elmore Leonard's 52 Pickup
(and several others of his novels)

Eatonville in Their Eyes Were Watching God by Zora Neale Hurston

Florence, Italy in April Blood: Florence and the
Plot against the Medici by Lauro Martines

The Gorbals, Glasgow in No Mean City by Alexander McArthur

Harlem, New York City, NY
in Just above my Head by James Baldwin

Isola, the setting of the 87th Precinct series of novels by Ed McBain, beginning with Cop Hater

Java Indonesian island of largest population
in Max Havelaar by Multatuli

Kilimanjaro in The Snows of Kilimanjaro by Ernest Hemingway

Lowell MA in Vanity of Duluoz, Doctor Sax and
other Jack Kerouac novels

Madison County in The Bridges of Madison County by Robert James Waller

Nantucket, Massachusetts, in Moby-Dick by Herman Melville

Oregon (lumber country of)
in Ken Keseyʻs Sometimes a Great Notion

Philadelphia in Changes For Addy: A Winter Story by Connie Porter

Quebec City in Shadows on the Rock by Willa Cather

Romney Marsh, The Doctor Syn novels by Russell Thorndike

St. Petersburg , Crime and Punishment by Fyodor Dostoyevsky

Tortilla Flat, Monterey, California in Tortilla Flat by John Steinbeck

Utopia (before it became a generalized term) in Sir Thomas More's Utopia

Vauxhall Gardens, London, in Vanity Fair by William Makepeace Thackeray

West Egg (Long Island) in The Great Gatsby

Xanadu in Kubla Khan by Samuel Taylor Coleridge

The Yorkshire Moors in Wuthering Heights by Emily Brontë

Zimbabwe in Barbara McCreaʻs Rough Guide
to Zimbabwe and Botswana

NEXT category:

Non-English* well known phrases

Examples: C: Coup dʻEtat; D; De facto

I: In loco parentis

*Non-English: OR, can be English, if English is not your first language.

A-Entry for Category (45)

a rivederci, Roma / (So long, Rome)

bon appétit - ‘good appetite’, a salutation before eating.

Cʻest la guerre! / Thatʻs WAR* (for you)!

*"guerre" here can be metaphorical for anything from a tragedy to a mild inconvenience.

double entendre - a phrase which can have either of two meanings, one being the literal interpretation, the other risque.

esse quam videri / to BE rather than to SEEM

faux amis - French for "false friends" - refers to words in different languages that seem as if they should have the same meaning but don't, like English "magazine" and French "magasin" (meaning "store")

guten Tag/ Good Morning/ German

Grande Dame (French) - a formidable lady, usually on stage or film

too late with this

Honi soit qui mal y pense (the motto of the Order of the Garter) - French, meaning, "Shamed be he who thinks evil of it".

In extremis - Latin, at the end of life

joie de vivre - French - joy of living

Kanaka Maoli --Hawaiian -- Native Hawaiian(s)

57>58:

What happened to L and M? (57 was the K-phrase; Was it taken to be the M-phrase?)

Long Live, The King/Queen

-a greeting to a monarch during the feudal or medieval times

NEXT: " M "

#60 does not conform with the description of the category shown in #45

laissez-faire, French, a policy of non-intervention

mens rea (Latin, "guilty mind") - criminal intent

non compos mentis -- Latin -- of unsound mind

"#60 does not conform with (the ʻnon-Englishʻ rule) in #45. . ."
(61)

It does conform, IF English is not the writerʻs first language. See the footnote on "non-English".

#64: yes, I agree, but I would expect the phrase also to be given in the writer's language in oreder to comply.
otherwise I could claim that my natural language is Jeriaise and offer any English phrase, such as "Over ther Top" for O.
No, it just won't do. The phrase and the translation has to be well known to fit your criteria.

objet d'art , French, a work of art

" agree, but I would expect the phrase also to be given in the
writerʻs language . . ." (64>65)

Good idea, but the rules didnʻt hold him to that. Are you saying the current M and N-phrases have been wiped out? I donʻt think so.

No, nothing wiped out.

par avion - French = by air mail

quid pro quo -- Latin -- something in return for something; an item in a deal.

respondez s'il vous plait.. aka... RSVP (French) reply, if you please.

status quo - Latin - the existing state

tempus fugit : Latin, time flies

ultra vires - Latin - beyond the powers

vox populi (Latin) - the voice of the people

Wiener schnitzel - (German, literally: Vienna cutlet) - breaded veal cutlet

"Xanthou dineentos hon athanatos teketo Zeus"
-- Homeric Greek -- "The turbulent (River) Xanthus, of whom immortal Zeus was the faher."

X is sometimes a difficult one, but does #76 comply with the stipulation in #45 that it should be a WELL KNOWN phrase?

(of course, I can't think of a better one)

"the stipulation in #45 that it should be a WELL KNOWN phrase". .

I wouldnʻt argue that itʻs generally "well known". It would be known to classicists, and, beyond that, to whose who have
enjoyed, (or suffered through) a book of criticism on the Iliad.

And then, formulators of rules have been known to consider themselves as exceptions. Even though "ʻainʻtʻ ainʻt in the dictionary", would you blow the whistle on Noah Webster, if you caught him saying it?

Your point is well made regarding "well known". I have to admit to not having read a criticism on the Iliad.

But as for "aint" not being in the dictionary, it is in mine (the OED, although only as a dialectal or vulgar variant). And the quotations cited by OED contain examples from no less than M. Twain and W. Faulkner (although they didn't actually say it themselves, it was used by their characters, including H.Finn).

As for Y, not sure if this one qualifies as well known, so throw it out if it doesn't:

Yema mejida - Spanish - egg flip, or eggnog

I think "yema mejida"(79) is at least AS well
known as "Xanthou dineentos...(etc.)" (76).

" ʻainʻtʻ . . .is in m(y dictionary)." (79)

Yes, I figured it might well be in some, but I risked the
ancient witticism anyway. And I did know that it was
used by Herman Melville on the first page of Moby Dick
(and in his own voice, not a characterʻs).

zut alors, French expression of annoyance - damn!, darn! etc.

and jbbarret, will you select the next category and get us started? Simple rules appreciated.

Next category: Matters Maritime - anything from literature or the arts relating to, or inspired by, the sea.

Give the work and the creator.

e.g. F: The Fighting Temeraire by J M W Turner
or M: Moby Dick by Herman Melville
(but you can't use either of those now)

To start: Admiral Hornblower in the West Indies by C. S. Forester

Billy Budd - novella by Herman Melville, which inspired the Benjamin Britten opera whose libretto was co-written by novelist E. M. Forster

The Commodore by Patrick O'Brian #17 in the Aubrey-Maturin series

Darken Ship by Nicholas Monsarrat

The Ebb-Tide by Robert Louis Stevenson

A Fleet in Being by Rudyard Kipling

The Good Shepherd by C. S. Forester

Homeward Bound, painting by Charles Napier Hemy

http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Charles_Napier_Hemy_-_Homeward_Bound_1896.jpg

In Haven, a poem by Caroline Alice Elgar, set as a song to music composed by her husband Edward Elgar for his song-cycle Sea Pictures.

The Jewels Of The Ebbing And The Flowing Tide
A short story by William Elliot Griffis

Jack Tar March, by John Philip Sousa, which includes The Sailor's Hornpipe tune.
too late

Kleiner Eisbär wohin fährst du? : eine Geschichte mit Bildern by Hans de Beer

Longships in Harbour by William McIlvanney

Mondaufgang am Meer, a painting by Caspar David Friedrich (1774 - 1840)

http://www.philipphauer.de/galerie/caspar-david-friedrich/werke-kl/mondaufgang-a...

The Nylon Pirates by Nicholas Monsarrat

Die Ostsee von Jann M. Witt

Pagoo by Holling C. Holling

Quarterdeck by Julian Stockwin

The Rime of the Ancient Mariner by Samuel Taylor Coleridge

Sea Fever by John Masefield

I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,
And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,
And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking,
And a grey mist on the sea's face, and a grey dawn breaking.
I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide
Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;
And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,
And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.
I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,
To the gull's way and the whale's way, where the wind's like a whetted knife;
And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,
And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over.

The Swimmer by Adam Lindsay Gordon
too late again

Three Corvettes by Nicholas Monsarrat
edited out as have used Monsarrat too often already.

Treasure Island by Robert Louis Stevenson

Ulysses and the Sirens, painting by Herbert Draper

http://www.yorkshiresfavourites.org/paintings/ulysses-and-the-sirens.html

http://www.marineoils.org/marine-art_gallery_2/victory-at-trafalgar/victory-at-t...

Victory at Trafalgar, painting by Andrew Kennedy

The Wreck of the Hesperus, a poem by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

Xenophon Retreating in Persia Reaches the Black Sea, print after Hermann Vogel

http://www.allposters.com/-sp/Xenophon-Retreating-in-Persia-Reaches-the-Black-Se...

Ye Mariners of England by Thomas Campbell

Ye Mariners of England
That guard our native seas;
Whose flag has braved a thousand years;
The battle and the breeze! ...

De zoete zee by Cherry Duyns

I guess, Newspapers were not an issue so far.
So let's start with newspaper names (definition here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspaper)

If possible with URL (print versions avaible, no pure online newspapers).

Appenzeller Zeitung
http://www.appenzellerzeitung.ch/nachrichten/

Bristol Evening Post

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Evening_Post

China Daily

http://europe.chinadaily.com.cn/

The Daily Telegraph

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/

Express and Echo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Express_and_echo)

http://www.iannounce.co.uk/Exeter-Express-and-Echo/1668824?_fstatus=search

Le Figaro

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Figaro

http://www.lefigaro.fr/

The Guardian , also known as The Grauniad because of its frequent typographical errors

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Guardian

www.grauniad.co.uk

The Herald Tribune

http://www.heraldtribune.com

i

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_%28newspaper%29

http://www.independent.co.uk/i/

Jamaica Plain Gazette

http://jamaicaplaingazette.com/

The Korea Times

http://news.hankooki.com/

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Korea_Times

Lexington, MA Minuteman

Mid DAY

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid_Day

http://www.mid-day.com/

Neue Zürcher Zeitung

http://www.nzz.ch/

The Observer

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Observer

http://www.theobserver.com/

Die Presse

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Presse

http://diepresse.com/

Quebec Chronicle-Telegraph

http://www.qctonline.com/

Reformatorisch Dagblad

http://www.refdag.nl/zondag

Somerset County Gazette

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somerset_County_Gazette

http://www.somersetcountygazette.co.uk/

The Times

http://www.thetimes.co.uk

Universe

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Universe_(newspaper)

Universe

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Universe_(newspaper)

The Virginian Pilot

http://www.usepilotnews.com/

Western Morning News

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Morning_News

http://www.thisisdevon.co.uk/people/Western%20Morning%20News/profile.html

Xinmin Wanbao

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinmin_Evening_News

Y Dinesydd

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y_Dinesydd

http://www.dinesydd.com/

Zimbabwe Independent

http://www.theindependent.co.zw/

New list: something frivolous,

Items of clothing, with link to picture if poss.

Apostolnik

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostolnik

beret

http://www.monetalia.com/paintings/monet-self-portrait-with-a-beret.aspx

cloche hat

http://styletips101.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/cloche-hat.jpg

dungarees

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0032551/

Eton jacket

http://media.photobucket.com/image/recent/crosby_square/etons3.jpg

flares

http://www2.emmagem.com/2010/05/03/flared-trousers/

garter

http://thedreamstress.com/2011/09/impressions-of-undergarments/woman-fastening-h...

high heels

http://wurzeltod.ch/wurzelforum/index.php?topic=1020.0

http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/the-fuckwad-memorial-fuck-me-shoes-threa...

ice skates

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2078184/An-accident-waiting-happen-Lab...

jumpsuit

http://jumpsuitsforwomen.info/

knickers

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/6156020/Queen-Victorias-un...

lederhosen

http://www.musiciansdfw.org/afm_bands/octoberfest_band/octoberfest_band.htm

muff

http://knitty.com/ISSUEsummer06/PATTmuff.html

muff

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Berthe_Morisot_Winter_aka_Woman_with_a_Muff.jp...

same idea, but too late

necktie

http://olegvolk.net/gallery/models/girlnextdoor/necktie2260.jpg.html?g2_imageVie...

overcoat

http://www.brooksbrothers.com/IWCatSectionView.process?IWAction=Load&Merchan...

Pinafore

http://www.google.com/search?q=pinafore&hl=en&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&am...

quilted jacket

http://www.menswearuk.com/mens-quilted-jacket-regular-length/

robe

http://www.learningcurve.gov.uk/snapshots/snapshot07/b25e3eb4f99b43889344487ab7a...

sari

sandals

http://www.mizztissa.com/blog/2011/02/17/louis-vuitton-spring-sandals/

Oh! just a bit late

Trench Coat

http://artofmanliness.com/2010/10/20/man-guide-trench-coat/

uniform

http://www.brighton.ac.uk/screenarchive/fashion/themes/work/civicuniforms.html

vest

wellies

http://www.anglotopia.net/anglophilia/anglophile-gear/anlgophile-gear-the-wellin...

X-ray Protective Clothing

http://wardray-premise.com/xray/clothing/index.html

difficult one, X. So I'm going to cheat a bit with:

Xylophone t-shirt

http://news.adamsikorski.com/2011/03/18/xylophone/

(beaten to it again)

Yarmulke

http://www.bangitout.com/photosb/?level=picture&id=2888

Zoccoli

http://michela-matterofstyle.blogspot.com/2011/05/zoccoli-e-clogs-must-have-esta...

so, let's move on to something to drink:
name of drinks, cocktails, shakes etc. (mixed drinks, alcoholic or non-alcoholic)

so, not cola or whiskey, but Sex-on-the-beach (with alcohol) or Safer-sex-on-the-beach (without alcohol)

with pix please

Amore

http://www.daskochrezept.de/rezepte/amore-alkoholfrei_59546.html

Black Velvet

http://www.weddingsandcourtships.com/france/champagnecocktails/blackvelvet.asp

Captain Cook

http://www.idrink.com/drinkpics/2463.jpg

http://www.idrink.com/v.html?id=2463

Death in the Afternoon

http://www.esquire.com/drinks/ernest-hemingway-drink-recipe

Eagle Eye

http://www.shot-cocktail-recipe.com/cocktail-recipes/eagle_eye.html

Fuzzy Navel

http://www.barewalls.com/pv-406448_Fuzzy-Navel-Cocktail.html

Gelbsucht

http://www.cocktaildreams.de/cooldrinks/cocktailrezept.gelbsucht.1107.html

Hairball

http://www.alcoholicdrinks.net/Hairball-Drink-Recipe-267.htm

Indian Planters Punch Special

http://www.cocktaildreams.de/cooldrinks/cocktailrezept.indian-planters-punch-spe...

Jock-in-a-box

http://www.drinkrecipesbar.com/drink-recipes-get-1086__Jock-in-a-box.html

Kentucky Derby

http://www.cocktaildreams.de/cooldrinks/cocktailrezept.kentucky-derby.3055.html

Love Potion #9

http://www.lifelovebeauty.com/life/social-life/1004-valentines-day-cocktails-and...

manhattan

(Accept or reject this, referee: I donʻt know how to make links.
But Iʻll try: About.com.cocktail under: Manhattan mixed
drink in Google

not from the referee but from another player:
copy the link(URL) from the address field and post it in here

Nineteen Twenty

http://www.cocktaildb.com/recipe_detail?id=1606

>179 rolandperkins: it would look somthing like that:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan_%28cocktail%29

Thanks, paulstader (180,182)
Glad you could at least recognize it.

oh, Manhattan is quite recognizable; there are at least three differing recipes for that drink

and, anyway, what do we have google for? why do we have google? (my English, okay, you get the meaning)

New York Sour
http://www.cocktaildb.com/recipe_detail?id=1597

orangeade*

*hope it counts as "mixed":
orange flavoring + water + carbonation

okay, but don't bring in all the fruitjuices mixed with water ;)

Pina Colada

http://www.cocktails-4u.de/pina-colada.html

The Quan

http://www.drinksecrets.com/drinks/the-quan/d1320

Red Death

http://www.drinksecrets.com/drinks/red-death/d994

Screwdriver

Tasmanian Devil

http://www.cocktaildreams.de/cooldrinks/cocktailrezept.tasmanian-devil.1171.html

The Upside Down Martini

http://www.foodista.com/blog/2011/08/11/julia-childs-favorite-cocktail-upside-do...

virginia reel*

*Is there any such drink? If not, there SHOULD be! And, if not, reject this entry, and stay on V as the current letter.

Virginia Reel is a dance (the only references I could find)

create a new recipe and we all can try it out

But there is a Virginia Egg-Nogg
http://www.ecocktail.de/de/ecocktail-cgi/datenbank/cocktail_rezept.cgi?cocktail_...

Waikiki Wanderer....which is what I would like to be right about now!

http://www.ecocktail.de/de/ecocktail-cgi/datenbank/cocktail_rezept.cgi?cocktail_...

XXX

http://www.cocktaildreams.de/cooldrinks/cocktailrezept.xxx.2083.html

Yukon Dew Me

http://www.drinkswap.com/yukon-dew-me.htm

Zhivago's Revenge

http://www.drinkswap.com/zhivago%27s-revenge.htm

How about river names?

Aberjona River......Massachusetts

Birs .... Basel, Switzerland

Die Birs : Bilder einer Flussgeschichte = La Birse : esquisse de l'histoire d'une rivière
by René Salathé

Conodoguinet Creek, central Pennsylvania

Donau ... Germany, Austria...

Escatawpa....Florida

Finn (Abhainn na Finne)....Ireland

Genesee . . .New York, Pennsylvania

Hangang (River Han)....Seoul, South Korea

Journey From the Han River
by Schroeder Ok Soon

Ichawaynochaway- Georgia

Irawaddy, Myanmar

Juniata River, Pennsylvania

frequently mispronounced by newcomers as Juanita

Kaskaskia River, Illinois

Limmat....Switzerland

Tanz an der Limmat. Ein Marco- Biondi- Roman by Roger Graf

Mississippi........USA......I still spell this as I did in grammar school.......Miss....iss...ipp...i.....

Nile

Oder ... Germany

Die Oder: Lebenslauf eines Flusses
by Uwe Rada

Po, Italy

Qolora River, South Africa

Russian River......Alaska

Saône ... France

Tiber Italy

Ume älv ... Sweden

Volga - Russia

Waccasassa - Washington State

Xiaoqing River, China

Yangtze River....China

Zambezi River Zambia, Namibia

NEXT topic: Fictional places:
The locations in Fiction or Drama, and/or other places important in the book. Name the book. Examples: I: "Illyria"* in Twelfth Night. E: "Elsinore", Denmark in Hamlet
B: Boston in The Bostonians -- The name can be real, so long as the whole work is fiction.

*There was a real Illyria, roughly the modern Albania, but it wasnʻt what Shakespeare meant.

Ankh-Morpork...Sir Terry Pratchett.....The Science of Discworld

Ballycloran, Ireland in Trollopeʻs
The Macdermots of Ballycloran

Camelot - in Arthurian stories. or fictionalized versions of them depending on your opinion of historicity.

Dorchester subsection of Boston, MA in George V. Higginsʻs
The Diggerʻs Game -- the title characterʻs bar is located there.

Edinburgh ... The naming of the dead by Ian Rankin

"Folly Down" village in Wales or Western England
in Powysʻs Mr. Westons Good Wine

Genf, Genève .... Die Aquitaine-Verschwörung : Roman by Robert Ludlum

Hyannis,MA in Hyannis Boat and Other Stories
by W. D. Wetherell

Ingolstadt, Germany ... Eine schöne Leich
by Lisa Graf-Riemann

Japan the only real* country visited by
Jonathan Swift's "Gulliver"

*real: used in a fiction,and to Swift it was so remote as to be
almost fictional. Few Europeans of his tiime (except for
the Dutch) ever saw Japan. Unlike Brobdignag and Lilliput,
it didn't become a famous fictional sitel

King's Hintock, Thomas Hardy's name for the Wessex village of Melbury Osmond, Dorset

Lahaina, HI* in The Third Spy (a Lahaina Mystery)
by Barbara E. Sharp

*largest town (but not the County seat) of Maui County, HI;
birthplace of author Leialoha Apo Perkins

München, Germany in Brüderlein Schwesterlein. Nix dolci by Laura Stern

Nevada in The Track of the Cat and other Walter Van Tillburg Clark novels

Oslo, Norway in Was niemals geschah : Kriminalroman by Anne Holt

Philadelphia in Red Blinking Light by Mister Mann Frisby

Quebec, Kanada in Blut für Wasser : Thriller by Varda Burstyn

R'lyeh, The Call of Cthulhu by H. P. Lovecraft

Stockholm, Sweden in Studio 6 by Liza Marklund

ToonTown - From Roger Rabbit

Utopia* in Sir (later Saint) Thomas More's work
of that title

*From the Greek root "top-" (location), with the prefix "ou"
(not): literally a non-existent location. It has become a
common noun for any imaginary (and usual wonderful)
location.

Vienna in The Third man by Graham Greene

Wales, as a counterfactual socialist republic, in The Eyre Affair by Jasper Fforde

Xanadu the setting of Coleridgeʻs unfinished poem
Kubla Khan

the Yukon - The Call of the Wild by Jack London

We shouldnʻt be running 2 rounds in a row;

so I think, instead of me, the poster of the Y-word (2jbbarret, 251) should
take over the next round.

Actually, RolandPerkins, I don't see a Z location yet, so I'll put in the Z and then the next topic:

Zion (from the movie, The Matrix)

Next Topic: Die! Die! DIE! -- Books where at least 1 protagonist is killed!

NOTE: The antagonist(s) may or may not die, but at least 1 protagonist must to be a valid answer.

. . ."I donʻt see a Z location"

Right. I intended to write "Zimbabwe. .." as the location of
some of Doris Lessingʻs writings. (She was born in Zimbabwe.) I rermember writing it, but apparently didnʻt get it onto the screen.
Anyway, no matter, because I was declining being the poster of the next topic.

The A -Name:

Andersonville* by Mackinlay Kantor

*The rules (253) say "books", so Iʻm assuming it doenʻt have to be fiction.

Billy Budd by Herman Melville - Budd is hanged from the yard-arm at dawn.

(Presumably that's no surprise to anyone, but this category will inevitably contain some spoilers.)

Carmina: Liber III (including) Fasti* by Ovid

*Remus the co-founder of Rome is assassinated by Metellus Celer, a follower of his brother Romulus.

Death Be Not Proud by John Gunther........the author's son, subject of the memoir, dies of cancer.

I can't think of one for E (I have quite a few for other letters, C was one of them). I'll leave E for somebody else.

Just a little clarification, answering posts A and D. As for A, correct, it doesn't have to be fictional

However, for E thru Z, keep in mind that it says "at least 1 protagonist is killed!", not simply that a protagonist dies. We are talking violence here (i.e. Shooting people, Poisoning people, Eating people, whatever it takes to kill with intent, regardless as to whether it was pre-plotted, or a sudden event, like you are in my way while I'm trying to rob this place, BANG!), not old age or diseases. Now whether that violence be fictional (i.e. some Mystery, Thriller, or Horror novel) or real (i.e. Real life assassinations, terrorist plots/attacks, fatal robberies, wars, etc) is for your imagination to figure out.

Echnaton
by Nagib Machfus

{well, if Echnaton was murdered or not - we just don't know}

In The Friends of Eddie Coyle, by George V. Higgins, the title character
is murdered, as a suspected informer, after seeing a Boston Bruins* hockey game which the assassin takes him to.

* One reviewer accused others among Higginsʻs novels of containing "endless drivel" about the Red Sox and Bruins -- his definition of "Endless" being about 6 or 7 lines.

Gorboduc by Thomas Norton - Because this is a revenge tragedy, every major character is murdered, including the title king.

It's been a month since the last post, so maybe the theme should be relaxed a bit to allow the protagonist to die through any means, violent or not.

ETA: When I first encountered Gorboduc in an anthology, its author was reportedly unknown, then at some point since then I saw it attributed to Thomas Norton, and when I check now, Britannica Online attributes it to both Thomas Norton and Thomas Sackville. I'm not sure of the basis for attribution, but at this rate, maybe we'll finally learn the identity of the Wakefield Master as well.

'THe theme should be relaxed. . ."

I agree. Thanks for getting the thread started again. I didn't realize, by the way,
that Gorboduc had a known author.

Next: H (-title)

Hamlet by William Shakespeare

I don't remember how many die in this -- more than survive, probably.

NEXT: I

Ironweed by William Kennedy - Francis Phelan's death is remarkably understated, as he finally joins the ghosts that have been haunting him.

Johnny, we hardly Knew ye*
by Kenneth OʻDonnell

*Outside of this title, he was usually called "Jack"
not "Johnny", but the title character is John F. Kennedy, assassinated in November, 1963. The author was JFKʻs first Chief of Staff, and had
been a team-mate of Robert F. Kennedy
in Harvard football.

NEXT: K

King Lear by William Shakespeare - Lear dies of grief after Cordelia is hanged; Goneril and Regan die too, but they had it coming.

Lutherans against Hitler: the Untold Story
by Lowell Green

--I didnʻt know of this title before hearing of it in L T. I donʻt how many victims
of Hitlerʻs violence are named, but there must have been a lot of them TO name.

NEXT: M

A mercy : a novel
by Toni Morrison

next N next

Narses: Hammer of the Goths: the Life and Times of Narses the Eunuch*
by Laurence Fauber

NEXT: O

*A Wish Llist item. A Byzantine generalʻs life; he must, directly or indirectly, have caused a lot of deaths. As with 268, I donʻt know if any are named.

Othello by William Shakespeare - The title protagonist stabs himself to death. The body count also includes Desdemona, Emilia, and Roderigo.

The Portable Greek Historians: Herodotus,
Thucydides, Xenophon, Polybius. . .ed. by M. I. Finley
--many deaths occur, among them Herodotusʻs description of the
assassination/execution of the fabulously wealthy King Croesus of Lydia

NEXT Q or R

Oh, Q is easy.

The Quran - basically says you have 3 choices. Become Muslim, become a severely lower person in society, or DIE!

Therefore, don't ever read this devil of a book, unless you plan to convert, as you'll likely die. Osama Bin Laden comes back to life like Elvis does, and he will kill you! Obviously some evil crazy person who doesn't believe in freedom of religion wrote this book.

NEXT: R

Rotes Kreuz und weisse Fahne : Henry Dunant 1828 1910 ; der Mensch hinter seinem Werk
by Dieter Riesenberger

{Red Cross and white flag}

The Serious Poems of Thomas Hood with a Preface of Thomas Hood the Younger
by Thomas Hood

It no doubt contains his "Eugene Aram". The title character commits murder and, in the closing lines, either is arrested or is led out to the gallows, I forget which.

Tamburlaine the Great by Christopher Marlowe - In a tie-back to #273, the protagonist Tamburlaine is stricken ill and dies after he burns a Qur'an. That's rather ominous in light of recent events in Afghanistan.

Ubelievable: the Life, Death , and Afterlife of of Notorious B I G by Cheo Hodari Coker
Nonfiction, in which the title character and several others are killed.

NEXT: V

The Vampire Chronicles of Dreckwood High, by Janet Hackreiter - Becky Ravenbloom is a lovelorn, misunderstood teen who "dies" and becomes a vampire. Josh, the cool kid, finally notices her, but can their love surmount the fact that she's a vampire? You'll have to read the four sequels to find out.

OK, I made that up, but I'm sure there's a young adult novel out there with that premise whose title begins with the word "vampire." Since it's been a week and no one has found a real title beginning with V, I'll skip to W.

The White Devil by John Webster - In this revenge tragedy, the protagonist Vittoria is killed by Gasparo and Lodovico. "Oh, my greatest sin lay in my blood! Now my blood pays for 't."

Skipping X

Ypres the first Battle*, 1914
by Ian F. W. Beckett

NEXT Z or A

*Non fiction on early World War I. I canʻt cite chapter and verse, but with all those deaths
he must have itemized one or two somewhere.

The Zoo Story by Edward Albee - Jerry dies, impaled on his own knife. In this two-character play, it's debatable who's the protagonist; although the audience or reader is presumably meant to identify with the conventional Peter, Jerry is the main focus of interest, so I think he qualifies.

NEXT TOPIC: Lesser-known words that you find interesting because they fill a need, they have unusual properties or etymologies, or some other reason. These must be actual words found in reputable dictionaries. For joke words and made-up words, go to this thread instead.

Starting with A:

aval - pertaining to a grandparent, analogous to better-known words such as "maternal" or "avuncular."

bituminous

(According to the geography texts of my childhood, if youʻre using coal for heating* itʻs very important to know whether the coal is anthracite or the above
(inferior) species.)

*and a lot of us were!

chryselephantine - made of ivory and gold

It's often used in describing Greek sculpture, such as the statue of Athena in the Parthenon and the statue of Zeus at Olympia, both long since destroyed.

Diamictite - a nonsorted or poorly sorted, noncalcareous, terrigenous sedimentary rock that contains a wide range of particle sizes. Examples could be tillite or pebbly mudstone. Term is descriptive, nongenetic (it does not imply how rock formed, just describes it)

ethnomusicology
a specialty within musicology/antropology/folklore;
and, I suppose, within Ethnic Studies

ferial - pertaining to holidays

What's odd about this English word is that its Italian cognate "feriale," ubiquitous on signs for bus routes and parking restrictions, means any weekday that's not a holiday. The Italian word is related to the ecclesiastical term "feria," meaning a weekday that's not a church holiday, which I'm sure must be etymologically related to the English "ferial," yet I don't know why they developed exactly opposite meanings.

gratuitous -- uncalled for, obnoxiously unnecessary
another word that had departed widely form its
original Latin meaning like Italian "Feria" (285).

"Gratuitous" comes from the root "grat-" ("welcome, pleasing"), but with the suffix not formed in the usual
way. Gratuitous can mean ʻFor no good reason," "unplesantly unexpected"-- ("pleasing", only in the sense that something unexpected CAN be pleasing -- but in this usage itʻs more often the opposite.
so that a gratuitious insult is an unprovoked insult --
one that could not be called just retaliating against anotherʻs insult. " A "coup de GRACE" (French and taken into English), from the same root "grat-", is a shot (coup) that is "an extra", probably not necessary, that is "just for good measure".)

hippocrepiform - horseshoe-shaped

The root "hippo-" for "horse" is familiar enough, but "crepi(d)-" for "shoe" seldom occurs in English, with the exception of "ultracrepidarianism," a useful term for the habit or tendency to give opinions on topics where one is unqualified to do so. I won't recap its etymology here, but it's from an interesting story about Apelles and a shoemaker.

incunabulum

a book printed in the beginning of the printing age

joss -- adj. "pertaining to a local Asian ritual". I have never seen it without the word "house" or the word "stick" following it.

A very East Asian word, but its derivation has been
traced to Portuguese colonial times: the Portuguese word "Deus" (God) which is spelt like the Latin, but pronounced more like the Spanish "Dios" (accent on the 2nd syllable).

kapellmeister -- a conductor of an orchestra

kohlrabi -- a cabbage

(I love to hear English speaking people try to pronounce German words - funny)

lottal - geologic term for the goopy wet mud at the toe of a landslide or mudflow. Origin of the term is the couplet "Shake and shake the ketchup bottle, none wi'll come and then a lottal."

I wanted to see what my online dictionary would give as
the derivation of "lottal". (Theyʻre usually pretty good on etymology).
What it said was, "No Entries Found. Did you mean Glottal?" I do remember the Ogden Nash line, but not how he spelled the phrase.

no entry in 'my' http://oxforddictionaries.com/ of lottal

(I know of a Lottal - valley of Lot in the Alps)

playing on 291 (L>M)

mnemonic -- helpful in the process of memory
(from Greek "mnemonsune" (memory).

nastic -- a movement of a part of a plant

If you search for the keywords "lottal geology" in Google Books, you'll find two citations saying that the term's etymology is from a verse by Richard Armour, presumably that couplet. The full text isn't viewable, unfortunately, but the works cited are compilations by the Geological Society of America and the Geological Association of Canada, so they sound authoritative.

From the American Geological Institute's Glossary of Geology (third edition - my newer one is at work) -
lottal - A field term used by King (1962, p. 179) for the aqueous clayey mixtures formed by mass movement down hillslopes. Etymol: Richard Armour's verse, "Shake and shake the catsup bottle. None will come and then a lot'll."

King, L. C., 1962, The Morphology of the Earth; a study and synthesis of world scenery. New York, Hafner, 699p.

Entry 291 was from memory- spellings of catsup and lott'll were incorrect.

obsidional - pertaining to a siege

It's from the Latin "obsidio," meaning "siege," and has no relation to the word "obsidian." An obsidional crown was given to Roman generals who outlasted a siege or lifted a siege on an ally. Surprisingly, the stone "obsidian" is from a person's name: it originated as a scribe's error for "lapis obsianus," meaning "stone of Obsius," in honor of the Roman who discovered a similar stone in Abyssinia, according to Pliny the Elder's Natural History.

On "lottal" (291, 292, 294, 297)

I didnʻt mean , Helenoel, that "lottal" lacks legitimacy as a word; only that my online dictionary, which I donʻt know the name* of, doesnʻt list it.
Not doubting the derivation either, and thanks for
the citation, @helenoel and @buckjohnson. (296-7). I
got the author wrong for "then, a lottal". Iʻve read a lot more Nash than Armour, and it was Nashʻs kind of rhyme.

*The icon for it on my screen is abook with "Aa" on
the cover, but I donʻt think Alcoholics Anonymous published it.

>299 rolandperkins: - no problem Roland- I had done the initial post from memory- glad I had a chance to flesh it out.. Geology has lots of peculiar words - that is one of my favorites. I know more Nash too- will have to see if I can find more Armour.

playing on 298 ( O > P ).

pragmatic -- practical, effective, realistic, eschewing abstractions; in Philosophy, placing great emphasis on "what works" regardless of theory or principle.

It has degenerated, in the media; nowadays "pragmatist" means something like a theoretical hard-liner who is actually willing (due to being "realistic" --see above)-- to compromise.

quincunx - an arrangement of five objects so that four form the corners of a square, and the fifth is in the center of the square (exemplified by the five pips on the face of a die)

This word originally denoted a Roman coin, certain mintings of which had such an arrangement of five raised dots on one face. The etymology is from "five-twelfths" because the coin was worth five-twelfths of an as, the primary monetary unit. (Ten, or later sixteen, asses equalled the better-known denarius.) It seems like an oddly specific fraction for a coin, existing alongside coins for simpler fractions such as one-half and one-third. The word derives from "quinque" (meaning "five") and "uncia" (meaning "one-twelfth"); the latter is the source of the English words "inch" and "ounce." The as coin is the source of the English word "ace."

Roland

My dictionary gives only the proper name: a Frankish hero; died in battle in the 8th century.

As a common noun (and my dictionary doensʻt give this usage) it is
used only in the phrase : to give "a Roland for an Oliver",
Giving a Roland for an Oliver, refers to a sort of "Can You Top This?" story contest, in which one contenderʻs
tall tale (an "Oliver") is topped by another (a "Roland").

Sitz im Leben -- literally: seat in life

the original context, place of a text when it was written

tatterdemalion - a person dressed in ragged clothing. Origin unknown. First documented use 1603.

unobtainium - (from Wikipedia) In engineering, fiction, and thought experiments, unobtainium (also spelled unobtanium) is any extremely rare, costly, or impossible material, or (less commonly) device needed to fulfill a given design for a given application. The properties of any particular unobtainium depend on the intended use.

More recently used in the movie Avatar-

ucalegon - a neighbor whose house is on fire

Not a neighbor you would prefer to have, of course. The word is taken from the name Ucalegon, a character who appears once in Book II of the Aeneid; his house, next to that of Deiphobus, was burned during the sack of Troy. He is also mentioned once in Book III of the Iliad, paired with the better-known Antenor as two sages too old to fight. His name is from Greek meaning "(one who) does not care," from "οὐκ" ("not") and "ἀλέγω" ("to heed or care"). The latter Greek word, transliterated "alego," may be a cognate of the Greek word "algos," meaning "pain," which is the root of English words such as "nostalgia" and "analgesic." The word "ucalegon" is not to be confused with "calegon," an obsolete undergarment.

ETA: Oops, simulposted. But hey, the more the merrier.

vicissitude --
time, occasion, crisis, happening, adventure, esp. a crisis-type of occasion. From Latin "vices" (pronounced "WE-case").
("times", in the sense of some particular time); related to
"vice-" as in "Vice President; despite all the jokes, it is NOT related to "vice" meaning "serious fault", which is from "viTium".

walleteer - One who carries a wallet.

I would have thought that these days that would cover most of us. Perhaps that's why it's gone out of use.

OED gives the quote: 1778 G. Tollet in Johnson & G. Steevens Plays of Shakspear (rev. ed.) V. 428 At his girdle hangs a wallet for the reception of provision, the only revenue of the mendicant orders of religious; who were named Walleteers or budget-bearers.

xerography -- a copying medium, beginning about in the 1960s.
from Greek Xeron ("Dry") --I guess this was named in contrast to
to pre-xerography methods which were rather moist processes.

Yaffle - (or Yaffingale) the Green Woodpecker, after the laughing sound of its call

Other meanings include to eat or drink noisily, or an armful of dried fish.

zero-based (aka zero base)
adj. usually folllowed by the word " budget" or budgeting": Not allowing previous yearʻs budget to influence the new one; evaluating line items anew
each fiscal year.

NEXT: Presidents, Prime ministers , Governors, Mayors
or Monarchs

// A- //
John Adams 2nd pres. of U. S.

Arthur James Balfour

British Prime Minister 1902 - 1905

“I am more or less happy when being praised, not very comfortable when being abused, but I have moments of uneasiness when being explained”

James Earl "Jimmy" Carter (D, GA)
38th President of the U. S.

Joseph Deiss (* 1946) President of the Swiss Confederation in 2004

Edgar the Peaceful
King of England (959–75)

François Fillon, prime minister of France since 2007

Gandhi, India

Rutherford B Hayes 19th President of the U. S.

Isabella of Aragon, Queen of Portugal (1271-1336) AKA Saint Elizabeth of Portugal

Boris Johnson current Mayor of London

Kim Hwang-sik, Prime minister of South Korea

Fiorello LaGuardia mayor of NYC, 1930s--40s

Mangas Coloradas, 1793-1863, Apache tribal chief

Nebuchadnezzar King of Babylon in Bible. O. T.

Olaf, King of Norway from 995 to 1000AD

Pertinax Roman emperor* (briefly)

*As emperors go, he wasnʻt terrifically violent, but there is an old British schoolboy rhyme about him:
"Principis Pertinacis nescio qua securi / Qui minime placebant: hi feriebantur vi. / The Emperor Pertinax/
Possessed a certain axe / With which he used to strike / People whom he did not like."
--heard the English of this from Prof. Arthur D. Nock;
the (not very good) Latin translation is by me.

Quintillus : Roman Emperor (again briefly) in 270

Roderick / (Sp. : Rodrigo)
-- last Visigoth King of Spain; defeated by the
"Moors" (Arabs & Berbers of North Africa) in
the 8th c.

Ian Smith : 1st Prime Minister of Rhodesia

Titus Flavius Vespasianus (A.D. 79-81) Roman Emperor

Umberto II, last king of Italy, served for 34 days in 1946

Victor Immanuel II --precedessor of (332); a constitutional monarch in post WW I Italy; (Italy was on the winning, Allied, side). The dynasty was "Savoy"; he was retained as a token monarch when Mussoliniʻs Fascist regime c ame to power in the 1920s. After Mʻs fall, a new democracy
took Italy out of the Axis alliance and took the side of the Allies. The monarchy was deposed after WW II, but not immediately after -- hence the 34 day rule of Umberto (see 332).

William I, The Conqueror : Duke of Normandy. Invaded, and became king of, England (1066 - 1087)

Xerxes the Great (519 BC-465 BC), King of Persia

Yoshihito : 123rd Emperor of Japan (1879-1926)

Zum Wohl! : 100 Jahre Engagement für eine abstinente Lebensweise in Basel
by Fabian Brändle

{Cheers! : 100 years of commitment to an abstinent lifestyle in Basel}

Um, I think the category is people , specifically monarchs and such , not books.

oh, wrong game, sorry

Zog, King* of Albania; ca. 1911 -- ca. 1942

NEXT: Also-Rans: Politicians who tried hard, but didnʻt
become president, usurping monarch, governor, mayor,
CEO, etc. U. S. vice-presidents are eligible--EXCEPT those who did eventually become president (quite a large contingent). Examples:
S: Harold Stassen -- tried for several presidentsʻ, governorsʻ, and mayorsʻ jobs without success.
P: Yemelyan Pugachev, posed as the Russian Czar whom most.
people thought was dead. (He was; and so, after
an unsuccessful rebellion, was Pugachev.)


* Albaniaʻs 1st and only king

John Bayard Anderson - Representative from Illinois, who unsuccessfully sought the Republican presidential nomination in 1980, then ran as an independent in the 1980 general election, receiving 6.6% of the popular vote but no electoral votes

Bill Bradley
(D NJ) Senator, and former NBA basketball All-Star; he opposed Vice President Al Gore
(D, TN) for the Democratic nomination in 2000, while
John McCain (R, AZ) was opposing George W. Bush
(R, TX) for the Republican.

Cetshwayo

King of the Zulus 1872 - 1879. Leader during the Anglo-Zulu War of 1879

Eugene Debs Socialist candidate for president;
the first "minor" party candidate to get over 1 million votes (but he carried no states). He was imprisoned for pacifism in WW I, oddly under a liberal president, Woodrow Wilson (D, NJ), and
then released under a conservative president Warren G. Harding (R, O.)

John Edwards, who lost three national races in a four-year span. He was an unsuccessful candidate in the Democratic presidential primaries in 2004 and 2008, and in 2004 he was also on the Kerry-Edwards ticket that lost the general election.

Michael "Mekka" Furbush
--Massachusetts politician, 1930s--40s; finished 3rd in the first election that I ever followed as a child. He finished behind incumbent Mayor William E. Kane* and
runner-up Henry M. Lean.

*Met subject; heʻs also the one who, as City Clerk Woburn, MA earlier, signed my birth certificate

Horace Greeley - Never having held public office, he challenged incumbent Ulysses Grant in the 1872 presidential election and lost in a landslide--which is just as well, given that Greeley died 24 days after Election Day, before the Electoral College could convene.

Harold Godwinson, or Harold II ;
King of England, 1066, killed at the Battle of Hastings by the invading army of #334 above.

Looks like Consectutive G's, Greeley and Godwinson, so not sure where we are at, so I'll insert an "H".

Mike Huckabee - AND THANK GOD - We'd have lost Freedom of Religion!

Next: I

VIncent Impelleteri (1901 -- 1987) He challenged Carmine DeSapioʻs Dem. machine and became a surprise winner of a special election for Mayor of NYC in 1950; he ran unsuccessfully for nomination to the Senate in 1952; got nominated for Senator in 1956, but lost the November election.

Richard Mentor Johnson - In 1836 he was elected Vice President under Martin Van Buren, being narrowly chosen by the Senate after no candidate gained a majority of the electoral vote. He was dumped from the ticket when Van Buren ran for reelection in 1840.

Neil Kinnock, the longest serving opposition leader in British political history (from 1983 to 1992). Most of this time in opposition to Margaret Thatcher. Resigned after losing the 1992 election to John Major.

Huey Long - Louisiana governor and populist demagogue who inspired It Can't Happen Here, a cautionary tale by Sinclair Lewis. Long was assassinated in 1935 while planning a presidential run. He didn't dodge the bullet, but America did.

Empress Matilda: Succeeded to the English throne following the death of her father, King Henry I and theoretically was monarch for a few months in 1141, but was never crowned as Queen of England, being ousted before her coronation.

"Huey Long inspired . . ."It Canʻt Happen Here" (353)

I remember when reading the Lewis novel in the 1950s
reading something about it which said that the novelʻs
first Fascist president/ dictator, "Berzelius ʻBuzzʻ Windrip", was a composite, but based mostly on Oklahoma
Democrat William "Alfalfa Bill" Murray.
Long no doubt did influence the composite, but he never had the
nation-wide support, and even respectability, that Lewis stipulates for Windrip --the kind of reputation that
enabled him to get the 1936 Democratic nomination
(the very near "future") and defeat a liberal Republican*
"Walt Trowbridge" who eventually leads a movement
to overthrow "Dewey Haik", Windripʻs second Fascist successor. (That the Fascists would violently fight among themselves must be influenced by the recent Hitler v. Rohm fight
among the Nazis in Germany.

* "liberal Republican" was not yet an oxymoron
in the 1930s, nor was "liberal" a word that all
politicians wanted to attach to their opponents.

Ralph Nader - He ran serious bids for President in four consecutive elections: 1996 and 2000 with the Green Party, 2004 and 2008 as an independent. He also campaigned as a write-in candidate in some primary elections in 1992. He received one vote for the Vice Presidential nomination at the Democratic National Convention in 1972--as did Mao Zedong, surprisingly.

//That's interesting to know; I'd never heard anyone but Long described as the model for Windrip, and I'd even heard the claim that Lewis wrote his novel with the goal of hurting Long's chances in 1936. Of course, Long was short on racial rhetoric, unlike Windrip.//

Kings Olaf (I-V) of Norway (997-1991).

Caius Calpurnius Piso Roman aristocrat, philosopher;

He "ran" for the office of Emperor (Princeps)
by the time-honored method of violently
ousting its current occupant. He probably
would have been a big improvement on
that occupant (Nero), but the Pisonian
conspiracy, beflore it could be implemented
was detected, and its members, who included
the philosopher Seneca and the poet
Lucan. were generously allowed to commit
suicide in lieu of being executed.

NEXT: Q or R

Dan Quayle - He was elected Vice President under George H. W. Bush in 1988 but didn't win reelection four years later, and he unsuccessfully sought the Republican presidential nomination in 2000. At the time he was widely criticized as not having enough political experience to be Vice President, which is funny in retrospect because he had served four years in the U.S. House and eight years in the U.S. Senate.

Franklin D. Roosevelt - The 32nd president of the United States. He served from 1933 -1945.

On FDR (360)
The rules of this round (See: 340) require a loss in the subjectʻs record. You might think Franklin D. Roosevelt never lost an election, but he was on the losing ticket in 1920 as the running -mate of James Cox (D, O.)

R > S

Harold Stassen (R, MN)

He received the only convention vote that went against Thomas E. Dewey (R, NY) in the 1944 G O P Convention. In 1948 he was a serious candidate, but trailed Dewey and Robert A. Taft (R, O.). He had some
later losing campaigns for governor of MN for mayor
of Minneapolis and --on into the Nixon era again for
presidential nomination. In 1956 he supported "dumping" Vice President Nixon and replacing him with Christian Herter (R, MA). The movement got little support, not even from Herter. Stassen never changed parties, and became one of the last of the "Liberal Republicans".

NEXT: T

Wat Tyler , 1341- 1381, leader of the Peasants' Revolt in England.
Leading twenty thousand followers, he had a meeting with King Richard II where he was murdered by the Mayor of London.

Oscar Underwood (D, AL)

Kentucky born, U of VA-educated Southern politician; a militant enemy of the Ku Klux Klan and of Prohibition. U. S Repr., Senator; briefly Senate Minority Leader.
He went from mere "favorite son" status in the nearly deadlocked 1924 Dem. Convention to gaining over 200 votes , but lost to John W. Davis (D, W VA), who then lost the November election to incumbent Calvin Coolidge (R, MA).

NEXT: V

Serge Vohor

Vanuatu, leader of the Opposition.

Although having previously served as Prime Minister, his term from 24 April 2011 to 13 May 2011 was voided by the Court of Appeal, deeming his election unconstitutional as he had been elected only by a majority of Members of Parliament (26 out of 52), not by an absolute majority.

Next W

William Weld (R, MA) author, governor of Massachusetts
His one failure in an election was in running for the U. S. Senate against long-term incumbent
Edward M Kennedy.
Democratic President Clinton nominated him for ambassador to Mexico, but the enemies Weld had acquired within his own Republican party made confirmation by the Senate seem impossible, and the nomination was withdrawn.

NEXT X, Y, Z or A

Gennady Zyuganov

First Secretary of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation.
Came second in Russian presidential elections, 1996, 2008, 2012.

New series:

Scientific concepts, laws or theories.

e.g.: Aerodynamics, Ampere's Law, Atomic Theory,etc.

To start:
Avogadro's Law

Cell Theory

density function*

*aka probability density function

Endothermic and Exothermic reactions.

Failed States*

* ("States" meaning nation-states, in this context). A theory in Political Science; or, some would say,
NOT a theory but an all too prevalent reality.

Holism Liberal South African politician/philosopher Jan Christian Smuts
formulated this theory of Philosophy and Science.

Iatrochemistry , medieval medicine, having its roots in alchemy, as practised by Paracelsus.

Jordan's Theorem
(in Topology)

Kepler's Laws of planetary motion

Lamarckian Inheritance

Magnetism

Non-Euclidean Geometries

Quantum Mechanics

Rohrschach Testing in Psychology

Special Relativity

Telemetry

Umov Effect

Virtual State

Wien's Law

X-radiation

Young's modulus

Zoning -- a theory and a practice
in CIty Planning and Land Use
Law

NEXT: Charactersʻ names in
Fiction, Drama, and Poetry*:
Major or Minor. The only requirement is that they have
a name (given name, surname, or both) and that they not be
someone from real life.

A Entry:
Athelstane in Scott;s Ivanhoe

NEXT: B

Billy Bunter of Greyfriars School by Frank Richards

Next : C

// C //
(names, b t w, can be forenames or surnames--whatver the character is usually called; e.g "Uriah Heap" could be the entry for U or for H.)

Churchy LaFemme
turtle, character in the "Pogo"
books, comic strips, by Walt Kelly

Dirk Gently (born Svlad Cjelli, also known as Dirk Cjelli) in

Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency
The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul

by Douglas Adams

Endicott (surname),
Colonial Governor
of Massachusetts in Hawthorneʻs classic short story "Endicott and the Red Cross"

Baron Frankenstein by Mary Shelley

Gregor Samsa in The Metamorphosis by Franz Kafka

Horatio Hornblower in the Hornblower novels by C. S. Forester

"Ike Hmope"
= "Mink" Snopes
in Faulknerʻs Snopes trilogy.--the characterʻs own rendition of his name: "Isaac Snopes". He couldnʻt read or write his name, and could come only this close to pronouncing it.

"Jim Hawkins" - protagonist and narrator of Treasure Island by Robert Louis Stevenson

"Kim" classic Kipling titlle character

"Alec Leamas", The Spy Who Came In From the Cold by John le Carré

//M//

"George Mills" title character in a
Stanley Elklin novel.

"Nell Trent" (Little Nell) in The Old Curiosity Shop by Charles Dickens

// O //

'Mr. O' Sullivan" supporting role in
Sheridan's The Critic

Pozzo in Waiting for Godot by Samuel Beckett

// Q //

"Gregory Quist" in Destinaiton, Danger and other "Gregory Quist "cowboy" novels by William Colt MacDonald

Rosencrantz in Hamlet by William Shakespeare
and in Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead by Tom Stoppard

Simo "Good guy" / "old Man" character *
in the Roman comedy Mostellaria by Plautus

*In the 1951 Latin Language production of this, Simo
was played by later UNC professor Kenneth Reckford.
He requested the role from director Hugh Amory.
"Misargyrides" the money-lenderʻs agent was
played by Roland F.Perkins.

Tess of the D'Urbervilles by Thomas Hardy

//U //

Uncle Ulrich*: uncle of the hero "Jean Oberleʻ " in Reneʻ Bazinʻs "Les Oberle'" "

Full name: Ulrich Bieler; despite the name, U. B. was a patriotic Frenchman in German-occupied Alsace.

Uncle Vanya by Anton Chekhov

//W //

"Rachel Wallace" protagonist of a Robert B. Parker "Spenser" novel: Looking for Rachel Wallace

Xavier Bird in Three Day Road by Joseph Boyden

// Y //

"Yancey Cravat" hero of Cimarron
by Edna Ferber

Zacharias Smith in Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince by J.K. Rowling

Next sequence:
Food and drink in art, music, or literature (titles or quotations), with links or touchstones.

A: The Absinthe Drinker by Pablo Picasso.

B: broccoli
Edward F. Fischer appears to be the author to consult on broccoli as a staple in Guatemala; (this is all new to me); theyʻre non-fiction , but his titles look like they would qualify as literature

Cakes and Ale by W. Somerset Maugham which takes its title from Shakespeare's Twelfth Night, "Dost thou think, because thou art virtuous, there shall be no more cakes and ale?". And from Aesop's The Town Mouse and the Country Mouse: "Better beans and bacon in peace than cakes and ale in fear".

// d //
Dandelion Wine by Ray Bradbury
--havenʻt read it, but I guess the novel uses the phrase metaphorically

Eels: in Leonardo Da Vinci's painting of The Last Supper. See it here

F: figs
A Few Figs from Thistles by Edna St. Vincent Millay - Title derived from Matthew 7:16, "Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?"

Gin Lane by William Hogarth

Halloween candy (to my taste: second only to
"Circus peanuts" among candies).

in Markham ʻs* The Halloween Candy Mystery

*Marion M. Markham also the author of The Valentines Day Mystery and The St. Patricks Day Shamrock Mystery

"The Emperor of Ice-Cream" - title of a 1922 poem by Wallace Stevens; borrowed by Brian Moore as the title of a 1965 novel

Julep, as in the song One Mint Julep

"Kickapoo joy juice"
a beverage enjoyed by supporting
roles in the works of (a definitely NON-Indian)
writer: Al Capp author of Li'l Abner. adding a
Native American cliche to his many cliches about
what the Library of Congress used to call
"Mountain Whites--Southern States". Oh well, it
was all in fun, despite Capp's occasional ventures
into being serious as hell.

Lilac Wine : Song. Recorded by Eartha Kitt, Nina Simone, Elkie Brooks

moly a mysterious drug* in the Odyssey by Homer

*Iʻm assuming thereʻs so thin a lilne between medications and foods that a drug will be allowed as a food. What exactly "moly" was has been debated by scholars, so most translations leave it in Greek (in which the spelling is
mu-omicron - lambda - upsilon#.)
Carl Ruck* might be one scholar with a strongly-based opinion.

#upsilon: = u, transliterated as y in the spelling molY.


* Met author.

Neige aux perles des Alpes,
and
Nonnettes de la Mediterranee au fenouil

Two of Bertie Wooster's favourite dishes by Anatole.
Items on a menu for a celebratory dinner in The Code of the Woosters by P. G. Wodehouse.

Next: O

O: oranges
"The Love for Three Oranges" - title of an Italian fairy tale, adapted into a play by Carlo Gozzi, which in turn formed the basis for an opera by Sergei Prokofiev

Pomegranate : The Juice of My Pomegranates : Wood engraving by Eric Gill,
taking its title from a line in the Song of Solomon in the Old Testament,
“I would cause thee to drink of spiced wine of the juice of my pomegranate”.

Quince
--fruit used mainly "for preserving or flavoring"; evoked by
Wallace Stevensʻs character ʻPeter Quince" in the classic poem "Peter Quince at the Clavier".

Rye, as in the nursery rhyme

"Sing a song of sixpence,
A pocket full of rye."

and The Catcher in the Rye by J. D. Salinger

S: sausages
Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Sausages by Tom Holt - a funny novel in the vein of Robert Rankin or Jasper Fforde. The title is modified from a phrase in an 18th-century political manifesto, presumably dealing with taxation of sausages.

// t //: Tea

as in: Tea at the Blue Lantern Inn: a Social History of the Tea Room Craze in America
by Jan Whitaker

U : Untermeyer

(No-one appears to have produced any great work inspired by the ugli fruit.)

"Food and Drink", a poem by Louis Untermeyer, begins:

"Why has our poetry eschewed
The rapture and response of food ?
What hymns are sung, what praises said
For home-made miracles of bread?
Since what we love has always found
Expression in enduring sound,
Music and verse should be competing
To match the transient joy of eating.
There should be present in our songs
As many tastes as there are tongues;"

and concludes:

"Let us join chiming vowel with vowel
To rhapsodize fish, flesh and fowl,
And let us thank God in our songs
There are as many tastes as tongues."

vegetables (only)

Those who stick to a meatless diet are good-naturedly laughed at in James Joyceʻs Ulysses.

W: whiskey
"Whiskey in the Jar" - classic Irish folk song, and probably the only song recorded by both Metallica (who won a Grammy for it) and Peter, Paul & Mary

"As I was goin' over the far-famed Kerry mountains,
I met with Captain Farrell, and his money he was counting.
I first produced me pistol, and I then produced me rapier,
Saying: 'Stand and deliver, for you are a bold deceiver!'
Musha rin du-rum do du-rum da, Whack for my daddy-o,
Whack for my daddy-o, There's whiskey in the jar."

For W, I considered the children's book "Groffle the Awful Waffle" by Leslie Knope, but I'm not sure it qualifies as literature, and it exists only within the TV series Parks and Recreation.

Skipping X

Yeast by Charles Kingsley

As it is more than 2 days since the last entry perhaps it is time to move on to a new game.
As I set the last one, which failed to reach a conclusion, it is better that someone else sets the next.
So I suggest that buckjohnson should propose the new set, having had the closest post to Z.

Happy to keep the thread moving, JB, though I'm compulsive enough that I have to cheat with Google to fill in Z before continuing.

Z: zucchero (Italian for "sugar")

The following dialogue appears in an Italo Calvino short story:
- Mio padre non vuole che si mangi la carne degli animali morti. E neanche caffè e zucchero.
- E lo zucchero della tessera?
- Lo vendiamo alla borsa nera.
(I, however, gladly consume meat, coffee, and sugar.)

NEW ROUND: Rocks and minerals; preferably, but not necessarily, accompanied by some interesting fact.

A: amethyst - receives its name from Greek elements meaning "not drunk" because it was thought to protect against intoxication

B: Beryl, (and beryllium) - from Greek via Latin beryllus. Later Latin word berillus was abbreviated as brill- which produced the Italian word brillare meaning "shine", the French word brille meaning "shine", the Spanish word brillo, also meaning "shine", and the English word brilliance

chalcedony: a quartz found in onyx,
agate, and jasper.

The ancient city that its name is derived* from is now a part of Istanbul, Turkey

*But my dictionary doesnʻt trust the accuracy of the derivation

Dolerite: a fine grained variant of basalt. So named because of the difficulty of discriminating its constituents. From the Greek δολερός ,doleros, deceptive + -ite.

Tasmania, is composed of Jurassic Dolerite. Tasmania has the world's largest areas of dolerite.

E -
earth{chem}: a) A difficultly reducible metallic oxide (such as alumina) formerly regarded as an element. b) One of the four elements of the alchemists (the others: air, fire, water)

earth {eng}: Material that can be removed and handled economically with pick and shovel or loosened and removed with a power shovel, scraper or end loader.

earth {geog}: A general term for the solid materials that make up the physical globe, as distict from water or air.

earth{sed} a) An organic deposit that has remained unconsolidated althoug it is no longer in the process of accumulation ; e.g. radiolarian earth and diotamacious earth. b) an amorphous fine-grained material, such as a clay or a substance resembling clay; e.g. fuller's earth.

All from the AGI Glossary of Geology, Fourth Edition (touchstone not working) There is also an entry for Earth- capitalized with the expected definition.

Ferrous sulfate a salt

One of the few things I learned in h.s. Chemistry was
that compounds ending in -OUS contain oxygen,
and those ending in -IC do not.

goethite - an iron-based mineral with ties to both art and literature, because it is named for German poet Johann Wolfgang von Goethe and was used as a pigment in the Lascaux cave paintings

Haematite (or hematite) - an oxide of iron. In its grey/black form it is used as a semi-precious stone from which beads are made. When cut or scratched it shows red appearing to bleed, hence its name from haima, the Greek for blood. Its properties have been believed to be good for various disorders of the blood, and also to be beneficial as a decoration in war. It is abundant on Mars, the red planet.

iron -- element (Fe), metal

Jade :

from Wikipedia:The English word jade (alternative spellings "jaid", "jadeite") is derived (via French l'ejade and Latin ilia1) from the Spanish term piedra de ijada (first recorded in 1565) or "loin stone", from its reputed efficacy in curing ailments of the loins and kidneys.

kalium element; Latin for potassium (K)

lapis lazuli - gemstone whose rich blue color subsequently led to the Spanish word "azul," the French word "azur," and the English word "azure"

Moonstone - semi-precious stone.
The Moonstone is title of the book by Wilkie Collins, which is generally considered to be the first detective novel, although in this case the Moonstone is the name of a diamond.

natrium element (Na)
Latin for sodium

onyx - a banded gemstone named from the Greek for "claw" or "fingernail," a root usually appearing in English as onycho-, as in onychomancy, fortune-telling by examining someone's fingernails

(Roland, for natrium I suspect you meant to type sodium rather than sulphur.)

"you meant...sodium. . ." (459-460)

Yes, thanks, I just corrected it before reading 460.
I did mean sodium, but I forgot it was natrium not nalium.

Pyrite - from the Greek, "of fire", because sparks can be struck from it. It can be the cause of spontaneous combustion in coal mines.
Due to its appearance it is sometimes known as Fool's Gold.

quetzalcoatlite - a blue-green, tellurium-containing mineral, named for the Aztec feathered serpent god Quetzalcoatl. It's similar in appearance to another tellurium-containing mineral, tlalocite, which is named for Tlaloc, the Aztec god of rain.

rare earths -- elements (including one that could be the s-word here.

My dictionary calls them "not especially rare, but. . .
they appear together. . .and are difficult to separate from each other.. . ."

Sillimanite - named after Benjamin Silliman, one of the first professors of science at Yale University, and the first to distill petroleum.

tungsten (W) element, metal; its name comes from
the Swedish for "heavy stone".

uranium - radioactive element, which generates approximately 14% of the world's electricity. During the Manhattan Project, the U.S. explored the option of cornering the world's supply of uranium for military reasons, but today we know that would have been impractical because uranium is slightly more abundant than tin.

Vermiculite - Its name is from Latin vermiculare, to breed worms, for the manner in which it exfoliates when heated.
I didn't know the derivation of the name until I just looked it up on wiki, but I have been using it in my wormery to improve the conditions for worms in the production of compost. Because of its insulating and moisture absorbing properties the range of uses to which it can be put is staggering (see wikipedia here).

Wardite - Mineral - Hydrated Sodium Aluminum Phosphate Hydroxide

Seeing as that most of you like to skip X, Y, and Z, I'm providing for those as well:

Xonotlite - Mineral - Calcium Silicate Hydroxide

Yuksporite - Mineral - Hydrated Potassium Barium Sodium Calcium Titanium Silicate Fluoride Hydroxide

Zinc - Mineral

Next Topic: Parts of a Gameshow, Past or Present.

List the Part of the gameshow, followed by the game show it comes from. The "Part" of the gameshow is what must start with the letter that you are at.

Example: (For "W")

The Winner's Circle - The $25,000 Pyramid

Note: Just naming a Gameshow is an invalid answer.

Think about the many games played on the Price is Right, the names given to the bonus round on many shows, and many small quirks within gameshows, like in the example above, "The Seven-Eleven", "The Mystery 7" and "The Subjects" are also parts of The $25,000 Pyramid

Next: A

xocomecatlite - tellurium-containing mineral whose green crystals often occur in spherical agglomerations, leading to its name, from the Nahuatl (Aztec) word for "bunch of grapes"

ETA: Disregard, simulpost for X.

Any Number - The Price is Right

Next: B

//B//

Buy a Vowel -- The Vanna White / Pat Sajak Show*

*Iʻve forgotten the official name of it! Not even sure if Pat is still on it, as I havenʻt seen an episode in years. But you know the show I mean; and what weʻre naming, alphabetically, is parts, not whole shows.

Yep, still Pat Sajak, and it's "Wheel Of Fortune"

As for C:

"Chip It" -- What you do with the Power Chips when you don't like the card that comes up next in the bonus round of Catch 21

Next: D

Daily Double - opportunity for one contestant to bet all or part of his/her winnings in "Jeopardy!"

End Game - The name of the bonus round in Super Password (known as "Alphabetics" in the previous edition, Password Plus)

Next: F

". . .still Pat Sajak and itʻs "Wheel of Fortune"
(472-473)

Thanks, @ThrillerFan

Fastest Finger Question - speed question, involving the ordering of four items, that was used to determine which of ten people on standby would become the next contestant on "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire"

Nice one buckjohnson - Forgot all about that one!

Golden Medley - The bonus round in the $100,000 Name that Tune where the contestant had to name 7 tunes in 30 seconds. If he or she did so, they came back to the tournament of champions for $100,000.

Next: H

"How Many Beans Make Five?": The "mathematical" round in the (thankfully) short-lived "Ring-a-Ding-Ding".

Immunity Challenge - a challenge whose winner is safe from elimination on that week's episode of "Survivor"

(I suspect people debate whether "Survivor" is a game show or not. I'd say yes because it's a TV show on which amateur contestants compete for prize money, and Wikipedia classifies it as a game show.)

"Jump-In Category" - One of the red-background categories on the ealy-80s version of Tic-Tac-Dough (Wink Martindale). The red-bacground questions had a special feature about them, like the following:

- Secret Category doubled the pot
- Bonus Category was 3 parts, get all 3 you go again
- Auction was about bidding how many you could name from a list until one was dared, and if missed, the other contestant needed 1 to get the box
- See Saw where the players had to alternate giving answers from a list, first to mess up, the other got the box.

Well, the Jump-In Category both contestants took part with a buzzer (a red button in front of their microphone was there, basically used for the Jump-In Category only). First to buzz in got to answer. If he or she was wrong, the other contestant got the complete question read to them.

Next: K

Karaoke Challenge - one of the possible games in the second round of "The Singing Bee"

Song lyrics were displayed line by line in karaoke fashion, but 15 words scattered throughout the song were replaced by blanks. Of the two players going head to head, whichever contestant correctly sang more missing words moved on to the next round.

Lucky Seven....They gave the contestant $7 dollars. Then they had to guess the price of a car (one digit at a time). Each time a new number in the price of the car was revealed, they subtracted the guess from the actual number, and you had to "give up the difference".....If you had at least $1 left by the end of the game, you won the car!!

Tough, tough game from The Price is Right.

{Edited to clarify explanation}

"Moolah"
-- a contest, with monetary reward promised for
the winners,if any; the contest
infiltrated the News broadcasts
of ""Aku", popular Hawai'i radio broadcaster
of the 1970s

Now or Then - Another Price is Right game where "Now" is today and "Then" is sometime in the past (in this example, we'll assume "Then" is May 1993). The contest is shown 6 grocery items in a circle, shaped like 6 pie wedges like trivial pursuit. Each has a price. The contestant must pick a product, let's say Formula 409, and the product has a price, let's say $3.19. The contestant must guess whether $3.19 is the price of the Formula 409 Now or Then, or in other words, is the MSRP for Formula 409 $3.19 Now, or was the MSRP for Formula 409 $3.19 back Then, in May of 1993.

If the contestant gets it right, he or she gets credit for that "wedge". The contestant needs to get 3 adjacent wedges correct to win. So if they ever get one wrong, the only way they can possibly win is if they get the product directly across from it right.

Next: O

CSailin - Out of the 74 games that aren't retired from the Price is Right (i.e. still in the current rotation), that truly is one of the hardest games to win. Of the 32 that are retired, a couple of them were retired because of how impossible it was to win, but amongst the other 73 still going, the following are also up there with Lucky 7:

Cover Up - Problem is, most people get TOO MANY numbers right the first time, reducing the number of guesses because you have to have a new number right each time. It is also better if you get the last numbers first.

Five Price Tags - First off, guessing car values that are a thousand or so dollars apart from one another is bad enough, but to get the options, in my humble opinion, it's easier to guess based on a specifically wrong price whether the right price is higher or lower than it is to guess whether a price is true or false. All other games with small prizes, like the Bonus Game, Shell Game, or Punch-A-Bunch, to name a few, use higher or lower. This is the only game where choices are based on guessing True or False.

Hi-Lo - This game is harder than it looks. You have 20 combinations of 3 products, and it's not like you have to total higher than the other 3, they have to be nailed, right on, as being the 3 highest, and they no longer use products like Trident Gum (obviously not one of the 3 highest).

One Away - Sheer pot luck if you ask me other than the first number in the price.

Path Finder - I've seen many contestants get all 3 side prizes right, getting 4 chances all told, and still not even get as far as the third number.

Temptation - Contestants always get the hundreds or tens digit wrong, and sometimes even the ones digit when they are evil enough to put a prize that is $500, making a 5 or 0 the last digit in the price of the car.

Notice all of these, except Hi-Lo, are for Cars.

>ThrillerFan

I was wondering if they still played that game on TPIR. I haven't seen it in years, but remember the stress of seeing contestants wind their way down to $1, and then winning that car. I alwary applauded for them.....how thrilling.

Yes, I would imagine that the big ticket items would require a little bit of a bigger challenge to win. Thanks for the information on the games, much appreciated.

CSalin - I don't get to watch it very often, and certain games seem to get played constant while others appear rare, but here's a list of the 74 active and 32 retired games:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Price_Is_Right_pricing_games

A few of the retired games were retired before I ever started watching the show around 1980, but some games that I remember that I used to like were Add 'em Up (another car game), Give or Keep, Hurdles, Superball, Super Saver, and Trader Bob while I found Hit Me, The Poker Game, Joker, The Phone Home Game, Buy or Sell, and Penny Ante extremely boring.

Bump, while a stupid game, was funny because you got to see Barker's Beauties Janice and Dian (no longer there of course) make these hip moves while Bob explained the game to the contestant.

Out of the ones they "claim" to be active, I haven't seen the following in years (or ever in a case or two), and have never seen Drew host the following games:

- Credit Card (Haven't seen since Bob left)
- Double Cross (Debuted this month)
- Gas Money (Never seen)
- Money Game (Haven't seen since Bob left, and the "el cheapo" trick no longer worked after about 2003 or 2004)
- One Wrong Price (Never seen)
- Pay the Rent, Pocket Change, Rat Race, Side by Side (Never heard of)
- Spelling Bee (Not seen since Bob left)
- Stack the Deck, Step Up, Triple Play (Never seen)
- Take Two (Haven't seen in 6 or 7 years)

ThrillerFan - My grandmother was an avid Price Is Right viewer...well, that, and Perry Mason. Never mind that she did not speak a word of english. But still, she would really enjoy sitting there trying to figure out what the game was all about. Oh, and also wheel of fortune....which I could never really figure out how she derived any pleasure from watching a show where knowing the english language was a must. But still, she got a kick out of calling letters out.

I find that watching the Price if Right without Bob, is just not something I enjoy.....remember when the lady's wig went flying off when she ran up on stage after having won the round? It was a great show.

Since nobody seems to be getting O, I'll post back to back:

On Account - Back in the early days of Wheel of Fortune, you weren't playing for Cash. You won a round, and spent it on prizes that were room themed, like the game room, or dining room, etc. At any point, you could put it "On Account", which meant you had to win another round without hitting bankrupt, or the part on account was gone. So if you scored $2800, bought a recliner for $1250, and put the other $1550 on account, your score is now 1250 (to determine bonus round). If you win another round, 1550 is added to what you have to spend. If you continued to spend until no prize cheap enough was left, you had the choice of putting the rest on account or take a Gift Certificate. If you took the GC, you kept the full 2800 score. Putting money on account was rare, but if you wanted a really big prize, like a car, you might do such a thing.

Next: P

CSalin - My favorite thing about the Price is Right wasn't Bob Barker. It was Holly Hallstrom. She was known for her "bloopers", like refrigerator doors that she'd close and they'd swing back open, or another instance where she had a male mannequin with a juke box prize, and the mannequin's pants started to fall off. A few times she would trip on cords and flop on her butt. One that I heard about, but never saw, was a wardrobe malfunction during the closing credits where she had to hide behind people. She was a trip. When she got tossed in 1995, the show went downward in my opinion. I might watch it now 3 times a year.

Picture-Spin Quiz - regular segment on the British panel quiz show "Have I Got News For You"

An image rotates and zooms out until one of the panelists is able to recognize the image and explain how it relates to a recent news event.

Quotation - Wheel of Fortune round where they give a quotation and you get bonus money if after you guess the quotation, you can identify where it came from.

Rainbow Ring - one of the middle segments in the game show "Bamboozled"

Whichever contestant answers the first question correctly can either pass or take a Wicked Wango card. Eventually, each contestant must spin the Wheel of Mayhem to go up the Ladder of Chance, moving past the Mud Hut through the Rainbow Ring to get to the Golden Monkey. Yanking the Golden Monkey's tail allows the contestant to reach Paradise Pond. However, it's harder than it sounds because of the Hungry Monkey on the ladder, the hopping bonus and backwards bonus, Google and Gimme cards, and other features.

"The Secret Word"

An introductory segment in
"You Bet your Life", 1950s TV, hosted by Groucho Marx. The word was always
a common noun: "Itʻs a common word, something youʻll find around the house."

Terminator question - a head-to-head challenge before the fifth, sixth, and seventh rounds of the former Fox game show "Greed"

One contestant was randomly selected; he or she then had the option* of challenging one of the other contestants to play the Terminator question, head to head, buzzing in anytime. Whichever contestant answered the question correctly acquired the other contestant's money, while the losing contestant was eliminated from the game. The contestant who had been randomly selected won $10,000, regardless of the outcome.

*The randomly selected contestant also had the option of declining the Terminator question, in which case it was skipped and the contestant didn't receive the guaranteed $10,000. This almost never occurred because the contestants were, after all, greedy.

Well, this thread has been dormant for a month, and the only answer I can give for any of the remaining letters covers W:

Wonderwall: the bonus round on the very short-lived game show "Winning Lines," hosted by Dick Clark

The sole remaining contestant was asked trivia questions, the answers to which were displayed on the Wonderwall, a hodgepodge of 49 numbered items that included the 20 correct answers along with 29 plausible incorrect answers, all mixed together regardless of the question being asked. The contestant had to find each correct answer and announce its corresponding number.

If someone is able to finish out X-Z for the current topic, terrific; otherwise, I'll propose a new topic tomorrow.

Yes, let's skip XYZ, and have buckjohnson set the new topic.

I can name one for Z.

The Zip Line - Part of the final obsticle course on American Gladiators

Not sure about U, V, X, or Y. Guess we'll just have to find out what the new topic is.

Thanks for finishing off Z. New topic: languages, accompanied by some brief fact about the language or a word that entered English from that language

A: Amharic - the official language of Ethiopia, and the world's second most spoken Semitic language

Basque
One of only four non-Indo-European languages in Europe. Spoken on bothe sides of the Pyrenees, but mainly in Spain. Capsule descriptions say it has no known relative, and its origin is unknown. Linguist Calvert Watkins*, on the other hand, has said that thereʻs no mystery at all about the origins of Basque. He connects it with the Berber language of North Africa.

*Know author; he said this back in the 1950s.

Well, doesn't say what type of language, per se:

C++
This language is one of the first in the "Object Oriented" language era, and has been used in many video games.

Dari Persian* aka Dari
spoken in Northern Afghanistan; itʻs Indo-European, but donʻt expect to recognize much of the vocabulary, if your native language is Indo-European.

*this may be the only case in which itʻs allowable, by the media-induced Conventional Wisdom, to
say ". . .Persian" and not "Farsi".

Etruscan - ancient language of the Italian peninsula, whose letters formed the basis for the Roman alphabet even though Etruscan, unlike Latin, was ordinarily written from right to left

Frisian
disappearing language in Friesland Province of the Netherlands. It is said to be the closest living language to English (in which much of the vocabulary has the same North Germanic origins.)

Georgian
Today, this language in the Caucasus uses the mkhedruli script almost exclusively, supplanting the khutsuri script. Mkhedruli means "military" or "cavalry," from the Georgian word for "horseman," while khutsuri means "ecclesiastical," from the word for "priest." I've read that older monuments used a third script, asomtavruli, but every monument I saw in Georgia used the mkhedruli script.

Hungarian (Hungarian name: Magyar):
one of 4 non-Indo-European languages in
Europe; one of 3 Finno-Ugric languages; distantly related to Estonian and Finnish.
It has in common with Japanese the general usage that surnames are put ahead of given names. e.g. Molnar Ferenc, rather than Ferenc Molnar.
Hungary is said to be the last country to use Latin in its parliament.

Icelandic
Icelandic is an Indo-European language belonging to the North Germanic or Nordic branch of the Germanic languages. Historically, it was the westernmost of the Indo-European languages prior to the colonization of the Americas.

Jibberish

It's supposedly a form of English, and spoken by my 2 year old daughter. Not sure which English words come from Jibberish. You'd have to ask your child prodigies that one! :-)

Kannada or Kanarese : a language spoken in India predominantly in the state of Karnataka. Native speakers of Kannada are called Kannadigas.

Latin
Indo-European, originally spoken in Central Italy. Several related languages, often miscalled "Italic Dialects " competed with it in the era before Roman dominance. About 60% of English vocabulary is estmated to be derived from Latin
Its descendants are the "Romance" Languages: French, Italian, Portuguese, Romanian, Catalan, Provencal, Spanish,
and Rhaeto-Romansh.
Medieval Latin, picked up by Touchstones, is a stylistic variant of Classical Latin, not a forerunner or early stage of the Romance Languages. What morphed into Romance Languages is called "Vulgar Latin", of which the remains are few.

Maltese
It's the only Semitic language customarily written in the Roman alphabet, and approximately half its vocabulary derives from Romance languages; the latter has the consequence that some words use Semitic triliteral roots and their usual variations for plurals and verb conjugations, while others require more ingenuity.

Nuer spoken in the Southern Sudan and Western Ethiopia
(but not by everyone).
Language Family: Nilo-Saharan;
Sub-Family: West Nilotic.
Has a 39-letter variant of the Roman alphabet, but, like Turkish and Vietnamese, it varies especially the vowels with many diacritical marks
and variant forms, for a total of 17 vowels.

The Nuer and their Sudanese rival the Dinka have been studied by several Western anthropologists. Both came under pressure from the predominantly Arab Fundamentalist Khartoum regime and have with other tribes formed an independent South Sudan

Occitan
Also called langue d'oc, a phrase based on a trichotomy first articulated by Dante, this Romance language used to be considered synonymous with Provençal, but now Provençal is often considered a dialect within Occitan. Its name derives from "oc," the Occitan word for "yes," which in turn derives from the Latin "hoc" meaning "this."

Portuguese
Family: Indo-European
Sub-family: Romance
Still one of the 10 most spoken languages in the world, because of Brazilian speakers.

Some philologists believe Portuguese and Romanian are the two living languages closest to Latin.

Quechua
a Native South American language family and dialect cluster spoken primarily in the Andes of South America, derived from a common ancestral language. It is the most widely spoken language family of the indigenous peoples of the Americas.

Rhaeto-Romansh aka Romansh
Family: Indo-European
Sub-Family: Romance

Switzerlandʻs 4th official language and the only one of
them that is native to Switzerland.

Swahili
Bantu language that's a major lingua franca in East Africa, despite having only five million or so native speakers. Much of its vocabulary, such as "kitab" meaning "book," is borrowed from Arabic.

Tongan
Spoken on 3 island groups in the South Pacific which comprise the Kingdom of Tonga, and by overseas Tongans
Family: Malayo-Polynesian
Sub-Family: Polynesian (Western)
Probably the closest Polynesian language to the original Proto-Polynesian; has many consonants which Hawaiian lacks, but has, like the other Polynesian languages, a phonetic
rule against two consonants in succession; so every word, and even every syllable, must end in a vowel.

Urdu
Indo-Aryan language; it's the primary language in Pakistan and also has many speakers in India. Its name is from a Turkic word for "army" because Urdu originated in the army camps of Nader Shah when his Persian forces invaded India in the 18th century; as a result, it uses the Persian alphabet but takes most of its grammar from Hindi and uses a mix of Persian, Arabic, and Hindi vocabulary.

Vulcan
The Vulcan language was spoken by the Vulcans of the planet Vulcan. Introduced to English speakers through the television series Star Trek, Vulcan has a "fan base" and internet presence. From one of many sites: "Vulcan is one of the chief languages of our 23rd century. Since the advent of star travel and the signing of treaties among the races of our galaxy, Vulcan has become a major
power and its people can be found on many planets."

Welsh

Famiily: Indo-European
SUb-Family: Celtic: Brythonic

Much more spoken than Irish
or Scottish Gaelic,
which are in the Gaedelic, not the
Brythonic sub-group of Celtic. But
some (non-Welsh) critics have
questioned the
volume of Welsh spoken in Wales.

Folklore has it that some American
Indian languges are traceable to
pre-Columbian Welsh settlers. It
was, in fact, once spoken outside
of Wales -- as far
north as Scotland, but today is limited
to Wales and predominantly to
North Wales.

Xhosa
Bantu language of Southern Africa. The lyrics of the hymn "Nkosi Sikelel' iAfrika" ("God Bless Africa") are in Xhosa; that song is unique in having been, at various times, the national anthem of five different countries. (For Tanzania and Zimbabwe, the lyrics were translated from Xhosa into Swahili and Shona respectively.)

Yoruba
Tribe and language in Nigeria. Yorubas were among the best educated Africans during the early period of Nigerian independence.
Best-known writer (but not as well-known as he should be): Amos Tutuola; he wrote neither in Yoruba nor in West African Pidgin, but in a variant of standard English that was all his own.

Zulu - One of the major Bantu languages of South Africa.

Next Subject: Room Temperature Grocery Items - Items that you find up and down the Aisles and End Caps sitting on shelves of your local supermarket sold at room temperature (i.e. Not the Dairy, Frozen Food, Meat, Produce, or Deli/Bakery departments that require refrigeration and/or in-store daily preparation).

Valid Examples - Frosted Flakes, Stove Stop Stuffing, Cranberry Juice, Paper Plates
Invalid Examples - Orange Juice, Filet Mignon, Fried Chicken, Watermelons

Next: A

Applesauce

baking soda

Coke-Cola

Doritos

evaporated milk

Flintstones

10 Million Strong, and growing!

goober peas aka peanuts

Hominy

Ivory soap

jelly beans

kitty litter

lima beans

Not the most pleasant item, especially for those needing it, but...

Metamucil

Much better than the last item- Nutella

oregano
(Referring to dried oregano in the spice aisle; I've never seen fresh oregano in a supermarket, so I don't know if that would be refrigerated.)

pretzels

Q-tips, also quinine water, AKA tonic

Rice Krispies (cereal)

spaghetti (pasta)

tampons

Underwood deviled ham

V-8 vegetable juice

Wellness Formula

Xerox paper (copy paper)

Yodels

Zout - laundry stain remover

Next subject: resorts or vacation destinations

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Augusta, capital of Maine.
(Not as well known, nationallly, as Augusta, Georgia, site of the Masters Tournament, and I havenʻt done more than pass through it, but Iʻm assuming that all the cities in Maine have a resort in or near them. Heck,"half the people" in Greater Boston go someplace in Maine in summer. Iʻm a Bostonian, but in the other half.)

So, Roland, you went to the South Shore or Cape Cod in the summer with the other half?

for B, lets try Bath, England, where even the Romans went to bathe...

Cancun, Mexico - perennially popular with tourists, especially during spring break for U.S. colleges

Durham Maine
population -- i donʻt know -- about 25?
Definitely not set up as a resort, but our former landlady --a South Dakotan (!) -- did invite us there for a few summer days in the 1970s

Epcot/ Walt Disney World Resort