Joe's Book Cafe 15
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Books Read in 2019
1. Good Omens by Neil Gaiman and Terry Pratchett (re-read on audio)
2. Sooner or Later Everything Falls Into the Sea by Sarah Pinsker
3. An Unkindness of Ghosts by Rivers Solomon
4. The Poet X by Elizabeth Acevedo
5. One Hundred Poems from the Japanese by Kenneth Rexroth
6. Happiness by Aminatta Forna
7. Milkman by Anna Burns
8. Revenant Gun by Yoon Ha Lee
9. The Mortal Word by Genevieve Cogman
10. Nerve by Dick Francis
11. Killer Collective by Barry Eisler
12. Little Oceans by Tony Hoagland
13. Tales from the Inner City by Shaun Tan
14. The Calculating Stars by Mary Robinette Kowal
15. The Promise by Chaim Potok
16. Auntie Poldi and the Sicilian Lions by Mario Giordano
17. Lord of the Butterflies by Andrea Gibson
18. Out of the Dark by Gregg Hurwitz
19. Forfeit by Dick Francis
20. One Good Turn by Kate Atkinson
21. Last Friends by Jane Gardam
22. Educated by Tara Westover
23. The Madness Vaseby Andrea Gibson
24. The Overnight Kidnapper by Andrea Camilleri
22. Amelia Cole Omnibus by D.J. Kirkbride*
23. American Sonnets for My Past and Future Assassin by Terrance Hayes
24. Black Leopard, Red Wolf by Marlon James
25. The Book of Boy by Catherine Gilbert Murdock
26. Battle Angel Alita by Yukiko Kishiro*
27. Harbor Me by Jacqueline Woodson
28. Decider by Dick Francis (re-read)
29. Bryant & May Hall of Mirrors by Christopher Fowler
30. Darker Than Amber by John D. MacDonald
31. One Fearful Yellow Eye by John D. MacDonald
32. Slow Horses by Mick Herron
33. A Gentlewoman’s Guide To Murder by Victoria Hamilton
34. Recent Changes in the Vernacular by Tony Hoagland
35. Alice Payne Arrives by Kate Heartfield
36. Wolf Pack A Joe Pickett Novel by C.J. Box
37. Murder in Just Cause by Anne Cleeland
38. On the Come Up by Angie Thomas
39. Trial Run by Dick Francis
40. When My Brother Was An Aztec by Natalie Diaz
41. Connections in Death by J.D. Robb
42. How Long Til Black Future Month by N.K. Jemisin
43. Tap Out by Edward Kunz
44. The Essex Serpent by Sarah Perry
45. Passing for Human by Jody Scott*
46. The Fated Sky by Mary Robinette Kowal
47. My Sister, the Serial Killer by Oyinkan Braithwaite
48. Indecency by Justin Phillip Reed
49. Frida Kahlo: An Illustrated Life by Maria Hesse*
50. The Initiates by Etienne Davodeau
51. Confederates in the Attic by Tony Horwitz
52. Number9Dream by David Mitchell
53. When Will There Be Good News by Kate Atkinson
54. An Elegant Defense by Matt Richdel
55. Started Early, Took My Dog by Kate Atkinson
56. Faro's Daughter by Georgette Heyer
57. The Rosie Result by Graeme Simision
58. The Truth as Told By Mason Buttle by Leslie Connor
59. Notes from a Small Island by Bill Bryson
60. Sharks in the Rivers by Ada Limon
61. Sync by K.P. Kyle
62. Pachinko by Min Jin Lee
63. Reflex by Dick Francis
64. Museum of Mistakes by Julia Wertz*
65. Reality is Not What it Seems by Carlo Rovelli
66. The Stranger Diaries by Elly Griffiths
67. With the Fire On High by Elizabeth Acevedo
68. Rapture by Carol Ann Duffy
69. Dress Her in Indigo by John D. MacDonald
70. Talisman Ring by Georgette Heyer
71. Drive Here and Devastate Me by Megan Falley
72. Demon Breed by James H. Schmitz
73. The War I Finally Won by Kimberly Brubaker BradleHow
74. How to Find Love in a Book Shop by Veronica Henry
75. The Stone Circle by Elly Griffiths
76. The Heavens by Sandra Newman
77. The Long Take by Robin Robertson
78. Storm Cursed by Patricia Briggs
79. The Darwin Affair by Tim Mason
80. Ghosts in the Schoolyard by Eve Ewing
81. How to Love a Country by Richard Blanco
82. The Alice Network by Kate Quinn
83. The Masqueraders by Georgette Heyer
84. The Rest of the Story by Sarah Dessen
85. Diary of a Bookseller by Shaun Blythell
86. Rat Race by Dick Francis
87. Malice A Mystery by Keigo Higashino
88. The Miraculous Journey of Edward Tulane by Kate DiCamillo
89. Big Sky by Kate Atkinson
90. Time of Death by J.D. Robb
91. A Study in Honor by Claire O’Dell
92. The Sentence is Death by Anthony Horowitz
93. False Colours by Georgette Heyer
94. X-23 The Complete Collection Volume 2 by Marjorie M. Liu*
95. Monument: Poems New and Selected by Natasha Trethewey
96. Pride, Prejudice and Other Flavors by Sonali Dev
97. Jazz by Toni Morison
98. For Everyone by Jason Reynolds
99. Bones of the Earth by Eliot Pattison
100. Recursion by Blake Crouch
101. The Great Believers by Rebecca Makkai
102. Lanny by Max Porter
103. Queen of the Sea by Dylan Meconis*
104. The Reprieve by Jean-Pierre Gibrat*
105. Anatomy of a Murder by Robert Traver
106. Miracle of Dunkirk by Walter Lord
107. The Transmigration of Bodies by Yuri Herrera
108. Eternity Selected Poems by Tracy K. Smith
109. The Cookcamp by Gary Paulsen
110. The Dispatcher by John Scalzi
111. A Study in Scarlet Women by Sherry Thomas
112. Book of Hours by Kevin Young
113. Dream of My Return by Horacio Castellanos Moya
114. Stories of Your Life and Others by Ted Chiang
115. The Long Lavender Look by John D. Macdonald
116. The Incendiaries by R.O. Kwon
117. Please by Jericho Brown
118. Hollow Kingdom by Kira Jane Buxton
119. They Called Us Enemy by George Takei*
120. Hound of Justice by Claire O’Dell
121. Falling Awake Poems by Alice Oswald
122. Break In by Dick Francis
123. The Lost Man by Jane Harper
124. Finding Dorothy by Elizabeth Letts
125. Straight by Dick Francis
126. Odds Against by Dick Francis
127. To the Hilt by Dick Francis
128. Whip Hand by Dick Francis
129. Come to Grief by Dick Francis
130. Danger by Dick Francis
131. Decider by Dick Francis
132. Vendetta in Death by J.D. Robb
133. The Unkindest Tide by Seanan McGuire
134. I Am Not Your Perfect Mexican Daughter by Erika L. Sanchez
135. To Be Taught, If Fortunate by Becky Chambers
136. Murder in the Blood by Anne Cleeland
137. Shattered Warrior by Sharon Shinn*
138. Mythos by Stephen Fry
1. Jane Austen's Emma by Nancy Butler
2. Snotgirl by Bryan Lee O'Malley
3. Girl Town by Carolyn Nowak
4. On a Sunbeam by Tillie Walden
5. Livestock by Hannah Berry
6. Tom's Midnight Garden by Phillipa Pearce and Edith
7. Anne of Green Gables A Graphic Novel by Mariah Marsden
8. Quiet Girl in a Noisy World by Debbie Tung
9. The Girl from the Other Side Vol. 4 by Nagabe
10. Buffy the Vampire Slayer: The Reckoning by Joss Whedon
11. Space Boy Vol. 1 by Stephen Macranie
12. The Girl from the Other Side Vol. 5 by Nagabe
13. New Lone Wolf and Cub Volume 2 by Kazuo Koike
14. Book Love by Debbie Tung
15. Royal City Vol. 3 by Jeff Lemire
16. The Snooty Bookshop by Tom Gauld
17. The Day the Buddha Woke Up by Andrea Miller
18. A Bride's Story Vol. 10 by Kaoru Mori
19. Jane Austen Her Heart Did Whisper by Manuela Santoni
20. Legacy: House of Night by Daniel Krall
21. The Love Bunglers by Jaime Hernandez
22. Stumptown by Greg Rucka (re-read)
23. Becoming Unbecoming by Una
24. Velvet Volume 1 by Ed Brubaker (re-read)
25. Mina vs. the Monsoon by Rukhsanna Guidroz
26. Woman World by Aminder Dahliwal
27. Samaris by Benoit Peeters
28. Velvet Volume 2 by Ed Brubaker (re-read)
29. Stumptown Volume 2 by Greg Rucka (re-read)
30. Lulu Anew by Etienne Davodeau
31. Heavy Vinyl by Carly Usdin
32. Captain Marvel Alien Nation by Margaret Stohl
33. Be Prepared by Vera Brosgol
34. Trish Trash Roller Girl of Mars by Jessica Abel
35. Weatherman by Jody LeHeup
36. Death or Glory Volume 1 by Rick Remender
37. Berlin by Jason Lutes
38. The Initiates by Etienne Davodeau
39. Is This How You See Me by Jaime Hernandez
40. Good Talk by Mira Jacob
41. Brody's Ghost by Mark Krilley
42. Out of This World: Leonora Carrington by Amanda Hall
43. X-23 The Complete Collection by David Lafuente
44. The Outfit by Darwyn Cooke (re-read)
45. Black Hammer Vol. 2 by Jeff Lemire
46. Black Hammer Vol. 3 by Jeff Lemire
47. American Gods Volume 2 by Neil Gaiman
48. Road to Riverdale Volume 1 by Fiona Staples
49. Road to Riverdale Volume 2 by Fiona Staples
50. Gideon Falls Volume 1 by Jeff Lemire
51. Gideon Falls Volume 2 by Jeff Lemire
52. Upgrade Soul by Ezra Clatan
53. Lost at Sea by Bryan Lee O'Malley
54. What a Wonderful World by Inio Asano
55. Black Hammer Volume 3 by Jeff Lemire
56. The Dark Tower: Gunslinger by Stephen King
57. Frida Kahlo: An Illustrated Life by Maria Hesse
58. Witchblade Volume 1 by Caitlyn Kittredge
59. New Kid by Jerry Craft
60. Tales Designed to Thrizzle by Michael Kupperman
61. Stumptown Vol. 3 by Greg Rucka (re-read)
62. Blackbird Volume 1 by Sam Humphries
63. Thor: The Goddess of Thunder by Jason Aron
64. All New Hawkeye by Jeff Lemire
65. Isola by Brendan Fletcher
66. Archie by Mark Waid
67. The Wisdom of Wonder Woman (collected)
68. 47 Ronin by Stan Saka
69. Firefly: The Unification War by Greg Pak
70. Girl from the Other Side Vol. 5 by Nagabe
71. Nancy Drew Palace of Wisdom by Kelly Thompson
72. The Hunter by Darwyn Cooke (re-read)
73, The Score by Darwyn Cooke (re-read)
74. Flight of the Raven by Jean-Pierre Gibrat
75. Sweet Tooth Deluxe Edition Volume 2 by Jeff Lemire
76. Icaro Book 2 by Moebius and Taniguchi
77. Criminal: Lawless by Ed Brubaker and Sean Phillips (re-read)
78. Joyride by Jackson Lanzing
79. The Girl from the Other Side Vol. 6by Nagabe
80. Philip K. Dick NBM Comics by Laurent Queyssi
81. Stumptown Volume 4 by Greg Rucka (re-read)
82. Kill or Be Killed Volume 4 by Ed Brubaker and Sean Phillips
83. Sleeper 2 by Ed Brubaker
84. Under the Moon: A Catwoman Tale by Lauren Myracle
85. The Magic Order by Mark Millar
86. Criminal Wrong Place, Wrong Time by Ed Brubaker
87. Bttm Fdrs by Ezra Clayton Daniels
88. Blue Monday by Chynna Clugston Flores
89. Invincible Iron Man: Ironheart Riri by Brian Bendis
90. Altered Carbon Download Blues by Richard Morgan
91. Ironheart Those with Courage by Eve Ewing
92. Invincible Iron Man Ironheart Choices by Brian Bendis
93. Generation Zero We Are the Future by Fred Van Lente
94. Doctor Who The Thirteenth Doctor by Jody Houser
95. The Graveyard Book Volume 1 by Neil Gaiman (re-read)
96. Moon Called Volume One by Patricia Briggs
97. Catwoman Copycats by Joelle Jones
98. This Was Our Pact by Ryan Andrews
99. Middlewest Book 1 by Skottie Young
100. Jessica Jones Purple Daughter by Kelly Thompson
Favorite Books of 2019
The Long Take by Robin Robertson
Milkman by Anna Burns
The Poet X by Elizabeth Acevedo
With the Fire on High by Elizabeth Acevedo
Lord of the Butterflies by Andrea Gibson
Tap Out by Edgar Kunz
Pachinko by Min Jin Lee
The Alice Network by Kate Quinn
Confederates in the Attic by Tony Horowitz
The Rosie Result by Graeme Simsion
Pride, Prejudice and Other Flavors by Sonali Dev
Anatomy of a Murder by Robert Traver
Hollow Kingdom by Kira Jane Buxton
They Called Us Enemy by George Takei
Overall favorite so far: Good Talk by Mira Jacob
Favorite Illustrated Books So Far
The Initiates by Etienne Davodeau
Lulu Anew by Etienne Davodeau
Berlin by Jason Lutes
Quiet Girl in a Noisy World by Debbie Tung
The Snooty Bookshop by Tom Gauld
Good Talk by Mira Jacob
Out of This World: Leonora Carrington by Amanda Hall
Frida Kahlo: An Illustrated Life by Maria Hesse
Under the Moon: A Catwoman Tale by Lauren Myracle
They Called Us Enemy by George Takei
Rafa modeling a new chapeau during Debbi's recent visit - his idea, not hers
Some fun news: three of my poems, Dream Baby, Awakening with Zeno, and Kingdom of Mu, are published on Academy of the Heart and Mind (see link below).
George Takei's They Called Us Enemy is a graphic memoir about his time in two of the WWII Japanese-American internment camps. More than 100,000 Japanese-Americans were imprisoned based solely on their race, with no due process, after Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor. It's a shameful episode in our history, and resonates today more than maybe it should, as we now engage in the shameful treatment of immigrants in similar camps. It reminded me in some ways of John Lewis's terrific March Trilogy about his experiences in the Civil Rights movement. It's an important story well-told in this graphic format, and it deserves a widespread readership.
>10 jessibud2: Thanks, Shelley. Right? Those colors are what grabbed me, too. She's Dutch-Egyptian - there's an interesting combination.
We're now free to share some wonderful news: Rafa is going to be a big brother! Josefina Lyndon Welch is due to arrive next February. Her nickname will be "Fina", and Lyndon is my dad's name. He and son Jesse were very close.
Wonderful news! And that photo is a great *announcement*! :-) As a first grandchild on both sides, myself, I should forewarn you, jealousy will make an appearance at some point. Happily, they will be close enough in age that it shouldn't be too difficult. I am 4 years older than my brother and was plenty old enough to realize that *sharing* meant it was no longer all about me. Just sayin....;-)
Happy New thread, Joe. Love those vibrant toppers and we can never get enough of the photogenic Rafa. I have had a busy morning, with my workout, my chores and catching up on some mini-reviews. Now, I hope to huddle down with the books, before we meet with friends later on.
>12 jnwelch: Hooray for the great news! And hooray for Fina! How very exciting.
Great new toppers Joe.
>12 jnwelch: Congratulations to parents, grandparents and Rafa. He's going to be a great big brother, for his hat style alone!
>12 jnwelch: How delightful! I'm really happy for the whole family.
Happy travels to y'all, and may the visit be tranquil and pleasurable. (I'm trying reverse psychology on the goddesses, if you're wondering why I'm not trumpeting jealously about y'all's la-di-dah life of jetting off to here before flitting away to there.)
New thread orisons.
Happy new thread!
So much good news here! Congrats on becoming a grandad again and publishing your poems!
Wowie zowie, Joe. Lots of news here. New thread. New toppers. New artist. New grandchild..and a new gender at that.
Thanks for dropping by my new thread, even if it is the same old sh*t, you know.
Hi Joe, happy new thread mate and great pictures and photos once again. Hope your weekend has been a good one mate and that you have a good trip over the pond, we still hope that we can get down to London but may not make it. Have a great time and we send love and hugs to both of you from both of us dear friends.
Happy new thread, Joe, and congratulations on your news about the expected newest addition to your family. Safe travels. I hope to see lots of great pictures.
>13 figsfromthistle: Thanks, Anita. Our DIL wanted to tip a hat my way, sweetheart that she is, so Joseph/Josefina. I love it, too.
>14 jessibud2: Isn't that photo/t-shirt a great announcement, Shelley?
Ha! Right - Rafa isn't much for sharing yet, anyway, so we'll see how it goes with a little sister. I will say, he likes playing with their two small dogs, so maybe he'll just see Josefina as one more. :-)
>15 msf59: Thanks, Mark. Isn''t that great news about Josefina? We've known for a while, but waited for the parents to give us the go-ahead on letting others know.
I haven't gotten to the books much today, although I did finish Finding Dorothy this morning. I'm trying to balance out taking a couple of airplane books and putting some "emergency" reads on Kindle with the knowledge that we always buy a load of books in London (so many great bookstores there!) We're going to try to get to the famous GN store Forbidden Planet this time, so may the gods help me; we only bring two duffel bags for the books we find. :-)
>16 m.belljackson: I like it, Marianne. Maybe Fina can wear one with "Rafa", and an arrow pointing to him, and Rafa can have one with "Fina" pointing to her.
>17 Caroline_McElwee: Thanks, Caroline. Those colors up top should pep up our day, right?
Ha! Yes, I'm sure Rafa will teach Fina the Ways of the Hat. He also can share many nuances about toys and uses for building blocks, including percussion.
>18 richardderus: Thanks, Richard! It's going to be fun to meet Josefina in February. Right now she's the size of a turnip (we get comparisons like that on a regular basis from her folks).
Our lovely daughter kept saying in a fake-sympathetic voice today, "Mwah, mwah, mwah, you have to go to London; life is so hard." Of course, her school year just started, and it's always miserable at the beginning as the kids transition and adjust. I think she shares your parenthetical feelings about our upcoming adventures. Do you want to hear about how hard we worked pre-retirement? I didn't think so. She doesn't either.
>19 ChelleBearss: Thanks, Chelle! Ooo, I like the sound of that "granddad again". A neighbor of ours said I look too young to be a grandfather. Besides suggesting he see an optometrist, I'm going to slip some money in his mailbox in gratitude.
>20 quondame: Thanks for the congrats, Susan! I'd love to live in that world of color; I want all of it, too - I'm sure the wardrobe can be adapted for gents.
>21 weird_O: A whole lotta "new" going on here right now, Bill, for sure. We'll try to get back to the same old sh*t asap!
If that's the SOS going on over on your thread, it sure suits me.
>22 johnsimpson: Thanks, John. We'd love to see you and Karen in London if you can make it.
>23 Familyhistorian: Thanks, Meg. We're really looking forward to the trip. Photos: are we connected on Facebook? If so, Debbi will no doubt be posting pics there during the trip; it's a bit of a circuitous route to get them posted on LT, so mine will likely show up here after we get back.
Oh what great news. I'm sure Rafa will be a great big brother once he gets used to the idea that someone else is going to get a bit of attention Joe. Congratulations.
Hi Joe. You are having a great time these days, it seems. Indy and Rafa photos are so fun -- that grandson of yours is growing so fast and his facial expressions are just priceless. And, as always, lovely art to top off your new thread. And >12 jnwelch: Oh my! Congratulations! That is very exciting.
Happy new thread, Joe, you found some lovely toppers again.
I love the picture to announce Rafa will have a little sister next year!
Happy September thread, Joe! Congratulations! Having your poems published is such an awesome achievement!!
Your toppers make my eyes happy!!
>5 jnwelch: Hahaha, Looks like Indy is helping Becca order from Chewy.com
>6 jnwelch: So cute! Rafa, at such a young age, is incredibly stylish!
>12 jnwelch: Awe! Congratualations to Rafa and all the Welch clan on the announcement of little Josefina! Hugs to all!
Congrats on the new grandbaby-to-be! What exciting news. Here's hoping the adjustment for Rafa isn't too tough.
>26 brenzi: Thanks, Bonnie. Agreed. Becca and Jesse did well together from early on, and are good pals as older sibs. It's going to be fun to see Rafa with his little sis.
>27 EBT1002: Hi, Ellen. 'Tis a very fine stretch we're in. Rafa is a crack-up. He's starting now in a Spanishi/English pre-school, and already likes it. He still speaks Pterodactyl, so we'll see how this develops. Thank you re Josefina - what's she going to be like? Can't wait to find out!
>28 FAMeulstee: Thanks, Anita. Isn't that a fun way to announce that Rafa has a little sister coming?
>29 Carmenere: Thanks, Lynda! It's been a great feeling to have those poems published and folks reading them.
Yay for Happy Toppers! I feel the same way when I see them.
Ha! Indy has many fine ideas, but no fingers, so she likes to help Becca use her phone. Chewy.com is a good guess. Isn't Rafa stylish? He likes to augment whatever his parents put together for him. Thanks for the congrats and hugs re the announcement of little Josefina!
>30 bell7: Thanks, Mary! Rafa has shown a great ability to adjust to changes so far in his life, so with any luck this'll be smooth. Having sibs is a plus, isn't it - I know you just got some exciting news about your bro and his fiancee. :-)
Lots of congratulations to offer today! I’m sure Rafa will be a wonderful big brother - how very exciting for all! And congrats on your poetry publication, Joe!
>33 Copperskye: Thanks, Joanne! His parents think Rafa will be a wonderful big brother, too - he's played with other little girls and done just fine. Not the same, but still . . . It is exciting; I wish the pregnancy were easier for our poor DIL, but she's as excited as the rest of us. And thank you re the poetry publication! Feels good to have them out there.
>31 jnwelch: Having sibs is a plus, isn't it
It is! I'm the oldest of five, which is certainly a large family by today's standards, but I wouldn't have it any other way. I love being auntie to my sister's kids, and I'm super excited for my youngest brother and soon-to-be sister-in-law.
>35 bell7: Five is a big family these days, isn't it, Mary. I had a college roommate who was 1 of 12. Wow! Eating at his house was an experience I'll never forget. I love being uncle to my sister's kids, like you do as auntie, and still remember my middle sister's wedding well, although I'm older than Ivanhoe.
Happy new thread, Joe! Congratulations on the upcoming birth of Josefina! Safe travels to London tonight, and I look forward to seeing you, Debbi and Caroline at The Green Room on Thursday! (I'm taking the last Delta flight from ATL to LHR tomorrow night.)
Happy Labor Day, Joe. I had a nice stroll at Montrose this morning. Gorgeous down there, although not as quite as productive, as it was in May. I like hanging out with birders, especially the more experienced ones. I am going to try and read a bit before we visit friends later on.
Good luck getting ready for your trip tonight. Sounds exciting.
I wanted to put in a plug for Hollow Kingdom by Kira Jane Buxton, originally recommended to me by Mark, before we take off. Dr. Jim also loved this one. Mark described it to me as "bonkers', and of course I found that irresistible. It is bonkers, in the best way - fresh and original. Something has screwed up humans so that they're going cuckoo and are obsessed with technology. S.T. is Big Jim's pet crow in Seattle, S.T. loves humans, and he's desperate to do something to help them. He's also pals with Big Jim's bloodhound Dennis. When Big Jim becomes incapacitated, S.T. and Dennis set out together to remedy what they can. In doing so they come across all sorts of other intelligent animals, including a regal crow who tells S.T. he is The One Who Keeps, whatever that may mean. Animals freed from zoos and animals from the wild take to the streets, and much sorting out needs to be done. They all are able to communicate in various ways. S.T. is a hilarious rebel who won't take crap from anyone, but who is also good at organizing others to, e.g., free pets imprisoned in abandoned houses. This is a funny and charming book - as Mark told me, you'll know within the first few pages whether it's your flavor or not.
>37 kidzdoc: Thanks, Darryl! Isn't that great news about Josefina?
We leave for the airport in a couple of hours; can't wait to see you and Caroline on Thursday!
>38 msf59: Happy Labor Day, Mark. You make great use of that Montrose Harbor bird sanctuary; I want to get Debbi over there again. Yeah, May there was phenomenal, wasn't it. I had no idea they got that many different types of birds, or that it was on a major migration route. I love the way birders help each other; the camaraderie and sharing of knowledge is impressive.
Nice day to find a comfortable spot for reading. We're nearly ready for the trip; we've learned that night flights work best for us, so we've got a couple of hours before we head to the airport. I'm liking I Am Not Your Perfect Mexican Daughter so far, and I'm looking forward to starting Mythos when we're on the plane.
You'll see I just gave another plug for Hollow Kingdom, to help spread the word. Thanks again for recommending it!
See you all in 2+ weeks!
I’m taking my laptop and will be checking in. Have fun in the cafe while we’re gone!
Don't worry about the cafe - I'm sure they will clean up before you get back. In the meantime, congratulations on the poetry, the soon-to-arrive, the trip across the pond, and anything else good that will surely accrue.
Congrats on the poems being published, and thanks for the link, I really enjoyed reading them.
And congrats on the new grandbaby-to-be!
What a wonderful start to a new thread, Joe.
Published Poetry & Pending Progeny to carry on the alliterative mood a reading of your poems has given me.
Happy new one, buddy.
Have a great time in London! D and I are off to Oxford tomorrow. Ok, Oxford, Maryland, but at least I get to sit under a big oak tree along a river and read! 😀
I guess you might be landing in London about now, hope you had a good flight. I'm sure you'll have a great time especially since you're so familiar with the city and know how you want to spend your time.
Congratulations on the new grandchild-to-be! That's wonderful news.
Hi Joe! Congrats on so many things: published poems, Rafa being a big brother, good X-ray results, your trip to England, a recent birthday and anniversary (I was behind a thread or two). Wow!! And we are reading the same books--I just finished Finding Dorothy and have They Called Us Enemy waiting for me. Safe trip. I leave for MN tomorrow. : )
>12 jnwelch: Great news! Rafa will grow up some between now and February---and I wouldn't be surprised if Fina will teach him a thing or two about sharing!
Hi Joe! Congratulations on the published poetry, new granddaughter (love the name!), and your trip to England. May it nothing but smooth-sailing (smooth-flying doesn't sound quite the same) and lots of wonderful books, beautiful sights, and laughs with friends while you're there.
Be sure and tell Daryl to post his photos - of the trip to London. Don't forget to take meetup pictures. Even if you are engrossed in great food and good conversation.
We’re here and enjoying London!
>47 jessibud2:. It’s probably always a good idea to avoid the seed-spitting contest, Shelley.😄
>48 ffortsa:. Thanks, Judy. We’re busy trying to accrue more good stuff. Wartime museum today - we’ve never been. Churchill’s rooms and all that.
>49 banjo123:. Thanks, Rhonda! Great to hear that you enjoyed the poems. We’re looking forward to this grandbaby making her debut.
>50 PaulCranswick:. Thanks, Paul. “Published Poetry & Pending Progeny” - love it!
Wish we were seeing you and your bride on this visit. I hope all is going well.
>51 drneutron:. Ha! Have a great one in Oxford, Jim. Sitting under a big oak tree by the river and reading sounds like paradise.
>52 humouress:. Ha! Thanks, Nina. Your instincts are right on target on the naming of Josefina. The trip is off to a grand start, with a walk in a beautiful community garden and dinner ( fish and chips for me, of course) at the Angel Pub. Museums today.
>53 lauralkeet:. Thanks, Laura. The flight was a bit tough for yours truly - my beat-up legs don’t seem to get younger, and I’m a lousy sleeper on planes. But the reward is well worth it. We love it here.
Thanks re Josefina!
>54 scaifea:. Hi, Amber! Thanks re Fina!
>55 Berly:. Thanks, Kim!
It’s been a good stretch of time for us, for sure. Last year was a tough one, but it all balances out.
What did you think of Finding Dorothy? I must admit, I as hoping for a bit more oomph. I hope They Called Us Enemy works as well for you as it did for me.
>56 laytonwoman3rd:. Ha!! You’re right, Linda. He’ll learn some more about sharing in pre- school, and he’ll grow up some more by February, and then Fina will bring a whole new perspective to his life. I told our son, if he’d like to have something for them to fight over as they get older, have them share one computer. He laughed - that’s the one thing he and his sister fought over growing up. For me and my sisters, it was the one tv we had.
>57 LauraBrook:. Hi, Laura! Nice to hear from you!
Thank you re the poems and for all the good wishes. We had a great day today that included the Winston Churchill WWII rooms (fascinating), beautiful St. James Park, and a revisit to Buckingham Palace, It’s been smooth sailing and good times so far, and we hope that continues.
>58 benitastrnad:. Ha! I don’t know about Darryl, Benita, but Debbi is posting photos on Facebook every day. In the past we’ve been pretty good about meetup photos; we’ll see how it goes. We’ll see Darryl tomorrow.
>59 foggidawn:. Thanks, foggi!
>61 jnwelch: Ah! I see it’s time for my annual “Vicariously traveling to London with the Welches and trying to control my jealousy trip”! Say hi to Mr. Fry for me...can’t wait to hear about your other theater adventures.
And many congratulations on the wonderful news about your impending granddaughter. (We truly are leading parallel lives.) The t-shirt announcement was so clever and sweet.
Since Joe and Debbi are cavorting amongst the fleshpots of London, the kitchen has delivered a Mary Berry, Queen of Cakes, speciality (note misspelling common to Yookies):
A whole-orange spice cake with mascarpone frosting.
In order to not feel abandoned, left out, ignored.
>45 msf59:. Thanks, Mark! Hollow Kingdom was an exciting read. The originality in it actually was more enjoyable for me than Max Porter’s in his more celebrated books.
Thanks for the thumb!
As you know, we’ve safely arrived and are already having a grand time. Pictures from today are up on FB.
>46 richardderus:. I don’t understand why you only gave out the watermelons after I left, Richard. My proclivity for starting food fights? My greediness when it comes to watermelon-eating? The embarrassment of seeing watermelon covering me head-to-toe from my overly-enthusiastic eating? All of the above?
>63 NarratorLady:. Hi, Anne. Yesterday we went to the beautiful Culpeper Community Garden near the Angel Pub in Islington, then had dinner at that pub, and managed to get back to our flat before jet lag/the time change knocked us out. Today we went to the fascinating underground Churchill War Rooms, and then wandered about lovely St. James Park and renewed our acquaintance with Buckingham Palace. You would’ve enjoyed it all, I’m sure.
Our first theater outing is tomorrow night at the Olivier theatre with Darryl and Caroline: Secret River, based on the Kate Grenville book. Unfortunately, the aboriginal actress Ningali Lawford-Wolf featured in it passed away just recently in Edinburgh, but her family has blessed the play going ahead. Can’t wait for the Stephen Fry performance next week or so. I’m reading Mythos right now, but I doubt I finish it before the show - it’s a bit cerebral for my vacation-mode brain, which right now is more inclined to re-read Dick Francis mysteries.
>64 richardderus:. Oh yeah! One of your best ever, RD. I just stubbed my fork on the screen.
Is there any queendom to be had that’s better than Queen of Cakes? I think not. Mary Berry is baking royalty all right.
>66 jnwelch: The Churchill War Rooms....fascinating! Imagine living underground as all that staff did during the he war, being assured it was bomb-proof ... and it wasn’t! Just luck that they didn’t take a direct hit.
The Huz worked at HM Treasury in the late 60s and knew the rooms were nearby but they weren’t opened and made public until the late 80s.
>67 richardderus:. Huh. OK. Yup.
>68 NarratorLady:. Oh, how smart they were to open the Churchill War Rooms in the 80s! People continue to flock to them. Per advice, we got our tickets ahead of time. Yes, imagining that time and working underground like that - wow. One woman from that time recounted (on audio) how the “girls” all spent a few minutes each day under a sun lamp, which was essential to them because they never saw the sun. And they all were told the war rooms were “bomb proof”, which, as you point out, they most definitely weren’t. What good luck they didn’t get bombed. It seems like such an obvious target. A tour guide said one parachute bomb (I think) came close, but floated past and hit a nearby church instead (killing 500 congregants).
We marvel at St. Paul’s church surviving intact. We were told a German bomb landed right by it, but didn’t go off and was defused.
Off for breakfast - we’re going to try Otolenghi’s, if I spelled that right.
Sweet Thursday, Joe. I am so glad you are able to check in. I am sure you are having a fantastic time, with The Organizer! She knows how to get things done.
I will watch for FB updates.
Enjoying the day off and yes, it will involve birding and books.
The news of Baby Fina is so exciting. I'm certain Rafa will make a wonderful big brother. Congratulations to the whole family!
I've been curious about Hollow Kingdom. I have no trouble with talking animals so I'll be sure to give it a whirl once I get caught up with my library holds that are coming in at a furious pace.
I'm looking forward to some meetup pictures from London. I'm another LTer living vicariously through your travels, Joe. I hope you and Debbi are having a wonderful time.
>32 jnwelch: I saw this, Joe. And I thought, this was a lot of work. Icing all those cupcakes. The stylist fending off sneaky, greedy photo assistants whilst getting all the cupcakes arranged and oriented. Wow.
Accck - catching up after missing a few days!
Congrats on all your babies - your poetry, Debbie's essay and of course, your name sake. Fina is a very cute name, but she'll always be little Joe-sy in some quarters. :)
Cute, cute pics of Rafa in his hat and with his announcement shirt.
Enjoy your London trip! I'm also green with jealousy!
And I added Hollow Kingdom to the library list. Looks like it will be a while until it's my turn, which is a GOOD THING as I eye my pile of library check outs.
Only birds and animals these days
Are sane and worth talking to.
I don't mind waiting for a horse
To stop grazing and hear me out.
Even a tree is better company.
Some oak proud of its branches
Heavy with leaves too polite
To address a stranger above a whisper.
A crow would make a good friend.
The one I have my eye on
Knows me well, but is currently
Busy with something he has spotted
In my neighbor's yard, going over
The scorched ground where
Years ago a dozen hens used to roam
And a rooster who crowed all day.
^This one reminded me of Hollow Kingdom, Joe. Grins...I really enjoyed his latest collection, Come Closer and Listen. A nice introduction to his work.
>70 msf59:. Hiya, Mark. All is swell here. Saw an excellent play last night with Darryl, called “Secret River”. It’s based on the Kate Grenville book, and involves “transported” Brit prisoners with a new life unwittingly claiming land belonging to the Aborigines. Attempts to get along, misunderstandings, and conflicts ensue. Powerful.
A day off with birding and books sounds excellent. I’m on my third Dick Francis, and we head to Daunt Books today to meet up with Darryl and Claire Shapiro (Sakerfalcon).
The Organizer is doing her usual splendid job of keeping us on track. 😄
>71 Donna828:. Thanks, Donna! Can’t wait to meet Josefina. She’ll be a grand addition to the family, and it’ll be fun to see Rafa become a big brother. You have the cutest grandkids around; thank you for the warm wishes.
As Mark told me, you’ll know in the first few pages whether Hollow Kingdom works for you. My suspicion is it will. A library copy is a safe way to give it a go.
We have some meetup pics with Darryl up on FB. We’ll be adding Sakerfalcon Claire briefly today and then a lot tomorrow.
>72 weird_O: Isn't that peacock cake with a cupcake tail a wowser, Bill? I wish we could try one of those cupcakes to make sure it tastes good. If so, I think even Paul Hollywood (Great British Baking show) would be impressed.
>73 streamsong: Ha! Thanks for all the congrats, Janet! I've always liked the name Josie (that's the name of a close friend's wife, among other things) - that would work for a Joe-sy girl, right? Not a Jersey Girl, a Joe-sy girl. :-)
Thanks re the Rafa pics, too. I've got some fun ones of him getting ready for his first day of pre-school (for very young 'uns!), too, with his little backpack on. I'll post a couple when we get back.
It's been a great trip so far; Daunt books with Darryl first (such a great bookstore!), then a meetup with Claire (Sakerfalcon) at Le Pain Quotidien (great food!) Then a clothing store for Madame MBH called Uni qo, or some thing like that, that had wonderful casual clothes at reasonable prices, but unfortunately the ones that attracted her were all in wool, which skritches for her (and for me). Then a goofy gift store that we like called Magma on Clerkenwell St., where we found some artist playing cards for our game-playing son and DIL.
Yesterday we wracked up 21,000 Fitbit steps; today it was a mere 15,000. Not bad for a couple of senior citizens.
I'm glad you're going to try Hollow Kingdom, once it comes in. I have a feeling it'll be just your cuppa.
>74 msf59: Nice Simic poem, Mark! You'll be happy to hear that, on your say-so, I picked up hid Come Closer and Listen book today at Daunt books.
Darryl already posted on FB our respective book hauls at Daunt, and Claire sent us a photo she took of the three of us at Daunt that I'm sure Debbi will post as part of her Day 4 travelogue.
Hi Joe - I love reading about your London adventure! You and Debbi are poster children for a great retirement. I've been reading about "The Son", starring Amanda Abbington (a favorite of mine and a very entertaining twitter account as well) which has a limited run this fall in the West End. I'd fly over just to see it if circumstances allowed! Do you have any free evenings?
Congrats on the impending arrival! Our little Rafa is still an "only" but then again he's just 8 months old. We're loving every minute with him.
Joe - hope you can move the Facebook photos over so those who gave up on FB long ago can share your Grand Tour - What fun and Gracias.
>78 vivians:. Thanks, Vivian. I’m glad you’re enjoying our tales of London! Today is a “take it easy” day, with dinner with Darryl and Claire tonight and the Alvin Ailey dancers at Sadler’s Wells, which is quite close to us.
Thanks for the tip on “The Son”. We’re pretty booked on this trip (we do our schedule and buy theater tickets before we get here), but I’ll take a look.
Go Rafa! And Rafa! And also Rafa the tennis player, who’s still going in the U.S. Open.😀
>79 m.belljackson:. Hi, Marianne. Yeah, we have other friends who’ve given up on Facebook. Understood. It’s too time-consuming to bring them all over here, unfortunately, but I’ll definitely post some when we get back.
>80 humouress:. Thanks, Nina, re the “dying”! I fixed it. That had to be autocorrect, as the “o” is nowhere near the “y” on the keyboard. Arggh.
Oh, my. Living above or across from Daunt Books would be heaven, wouldn’t it. I love their “curating”, in addition to it being such a physically beautiful store. Almost every book I got was from a display. The only exception I can think of is one from the shelf in the Japan section by the author of Strange Weather in Tokyo and Nakano Thrift Shop, Hiromi Kawakami, called Record of a Night Too Brief.
>81 msf59:. Hooray for Daunt Books!
We’re going to try to get to Forbidden Planet this time, a Mecca for sci-fi, fantasy and graphic novels. When I mentioned to Claire (Sakerfalcon) that we’d be going for the first time, she gasped and said, “That’s where most of my paycheck goes.”😀
Happy Saturday and Weekend, Mark. I’m sure I’ll like the new Simic collection. Thanks for the tip. I’ll look forward to hearing what you think of the Joy Harjo book.
Sounds like you're having a great trip over there! (Oh hang on, over here!) I'm also intrigued to hear what you bought but I'm sure they'll be popping up in your reading lists :-)
Oh my heck FORBIDDEN PLANET FTW!!!
I had to have comfort food after that blow. Deconstructed chicken pot pie with puff pastry and a side of fried okra and mustard dipping sauce.
For someone who is traveling and "wouldn't be on LT half as much," your thread is hopping, Joe!
>77 jnwelch: On my bucket list!! It sounds lovely; I love it when the displays are so well done.
I'm not commenting on each of your theater and other adventures, but I did skim through and it sounds like you're having a great trip. Keep having fun!
(Not my photos)
Wow! We saw the Alvin Ailey Dance Company at Sadler's Wells last night, and they were amazing. What a night. They did his Revelations as the last piece, which was as powerful as Madame MBH said it would be. My favorite may have been a section of The Call, where most of the troupe was dancing in a relaxed, rhythmic style to what sounded like Cuban music as if they were out in the street, and it felt like they could dance that way for hours, and I was wishing they would . . .
Great meal at the vegetarian restaurant The Gate beforehand (I had a Marinated (in maple) Tofu appetizer, Wild Mushroom Risotto, and Pressed Chocolate Cake dessert).
At the Gate: Darryl (kidzdoc), Debbi (Walklover), Claire (Sakerflacon) (behind Debbi) and What'shisname. As Darryl reminded me, Debbi described this as "two roses between two thorns".
Good morning, Joe! Thanks for a lovely evening yesterday; dinner was superb, and Alvin Ailey were even better. I also enjoyed 'The Call'; according to the program the music in that piece came from Trio Sonata No. 6 in G Major by Johann Sebastian Bach; Blues for Timme by the Mary Lou Williams Trio's album Live at Nice Grand Parade Jazz; and The Love by Yao Ababio and Komi Osei Williams.
Have a great day out today! I'll probably go to Tate Modern later, as today is the last day of the Natalia Goncharova exhibition, and get some good reading in. See you on Wednesday (if not before)!
>87 jnwelch: Good morning, Darryl! Thank you, buddy. What a great night! Thanks re the music. I suspect the Cuban-sounding music was the last; I need to find it and listen to it for hours while dancing poorly but happily.
Enjoy the Tate and reading (find any good books at Daunt Bookshop, by any chance?) We'll report back on the street art walking tour and Spitalfields.
>89 jnwelch: You're welcome, Joe. Please tell Debbi that I wouldn't have found the musical selections if I hadn't bought a program 😎. I was definitely swaying to the last two pieces.
I need to go back to Daunt Books, as I didn't find anything there that struck my fancy.
Yes, I'm curious to learn more about the street art walking tour. Will you & Debbi visit Old Spitalfields Market while you're there? It's very close to Liverpool Street station.
ETA: Our waiter took a great photo of the two thorns between the two roses, as Debbi said.
>83 charl08: You have a wonderful "here" over here, Charlotte. We're having a blast. We were so glad we finally got to Sadler's Wells; it's near where we stay in Islington, and we hadn't been drawn to a program there before Alvin Ailey. So good!
Hmm. I believe I can tell you what books I got; wish it was easier to just post a photo. Here you go:
The Man Who Planted Trees by Jean Giono
Tokyo Ueno Station by Yu Miri
The Librarian by Salley Vickers (do you know this one? It was new to all of us)
Come Closer and Listen by Charles Simic
The Other End of the Line by Andrea Camilleri
Record of a Night Too Brief by Hiromi Kawakami
>84 humouress: Ha! I will say hi to the Forbidden Planet for you, Nina. You and Claire have me keen with anticipation!
>90 kidzdoc: LOL! Please keep buying programs so we can borrow them, Darryl. Yeah, I think there was a whole lot of swaying going on at Sadler's Wells.
Huh. Nothing struck your fancy at Daunt? Evidence would indicate otherwise. You're the first person we've known to be awarded two cloth bags by the Daunt staff to carry out his book haul.
Yes, we're going to Spitalfield's first, then the street art tour. We're taking the tube to Liverpool to hopefully save some walking stamina for the fun stuff.
Ha! Oh, thank you for reminding me. Yes, two roses between two thorns, as Debbi said. (You got it backwards - trying to get me in trouble again?) I'll put that in. :-)
>85 richardderus: OK, given the enthusiasm, Richard, I may have to set aside everything else and go to the Forbidden Planet immediately! Well, that won't happen, but I can't wait to get there later next week.
I'll let others indulge in the deconstructed chicken pot pie.
>86 EBT1002: Ha! Hi, Ellen. Half as much but twice as good? I wonder whether that math works out . . .
You will lose your mind with happiness in Daunt. It's lovely, and a treasure trove of literary gems. Here's an inside photo, not mine. This is only part of the store.
>87 jnwelch: You went to London to watch American Dance Theatre? Each to his own, apparently. Beautiful photos. Yummy food. Great meet up picture.
>89 jnwelch: Dancing is dancing, no matter the supposed quality. It's the joy of movement.
>90 kidzdoc: Ah, a man after my own heart. If at first you don't find books, go back for more.
>87 jnwelch: Sadlers Wells, is one of my favourite venues Joe, I am glad you saw something spectacular there. And of course I love The Gate. Good to see you all.
>91 jnwelch: Hi Joe - nice haul! I have read the Vickers - and Tokyo Ueno station. Look forward to hearing what you make of them all too. I think there are some Vickers fans on LT - she has quite a back catalogue (but was new to me).
Great to see the theatre visits too, I really like what they've done with the colours in >87 jnwelch: Always amazed how much LT travellers pack in: impressive stuff.
>94 humouress:. Ha! Life is global these days, Nina. We’re happy to see great theater and dance anywhere. It was a first for me with the Alvin Ailey troupe, but I imagine it won’t be the last - wherever the next may be.
Thanks re the photos and food.
>95 Caroline_McElwee:. We wish you could have been with us, Caroline! It was indeed spectacular. We were saying that the last time we were at The Gate, we were with you. The food was again delicious. We all agreed it’s our favorite vegetarian restaurant in London so far.
>96 charl08:. Thanks, Charlotte. Oh good. Can’t wait to try the Vickers, and it’s encouraging to hear that you read Tokyo Ueno Station. Aren’t those colours rich? The sets were simple but, along with the costumes, so beautiful.
Today we just left Spitalfield Market (Madame MBH had great success- scarves, tunics and more; penguin and rubber duck socks for this guy). In a few minutes we’re starting a street art tour by Liverpool station. We do this one every year - it’s always changing,
>93 jnwelch: I LOVE this bookstore! Wow!
I also love the "rose between the thorns"! Grins...Happy Sunday, Joe. 4 more work days and I will be on a much needed vacation.
>91 jnwelch: - Hi Joe. Sounds and looks like you guys are having a terrific time! I read The Man Who Planted Trees many years ago and it is on my shelf in my permanent collection. Just fyi, the touchstone to The Librarian isn't going to the cover you show. Sounds like a book I will need to add to my shelf of books about books :). Your picture of Daunt Books is very enticing. Toronto has an lovely small indie bookstore called Ben McNally's (unofficially known as Toronto's most beautiful bookstore). It looks very much like Daunt but on a much smaller scale. Word came just this week that they will be forced to close early in the new year due to stupid city construction (to create an alleyway! Can you believe such idiocy?). They have vowed to find another venue but who knows if they can replicate the interior beauty. Sigh.
Enjoy the rest of your visit in London!
>98 msf59:. Isn’t it a great bookstore, Mark? They have so many good ones here, but Daunt may be our favorite.
Four more days! Four more days!
>99 jessibud2:. Touchstone fixed, Shelley. I’m glad you were that interested!
Very good to hear about The Man Who Planted Trees. New one to me!
Sorry to hear that about Ben McNally’s. I hope it works out. Sounds lovely.
>100 humouress:. There is lots of food at Spitalfield’s, Nina, but also clothing, jewelry, and quirky gift items. A lot of what’s on sale is made by the vendors (including the clothing), which we get a kick out of.
The street art tour was excellent; we think our best ever. Very knowledgeable and entertaining guide. I’ll post photos when we get home.
Joe - bet you and your Family will love The Man Who Planted Trees - so quietly and gently inspiring,
from the writing through the eternal message and the art.
What variety and balance you have on this journey!
Off to look at The Gate menu...
The Gate Menu is worth a visit in itself - reminds me of Charlie Trotter's old Chicago Restaurant with the (50 course - or so it seemed)
Vegetarian Feast with Champagnes...
>102 jnwelch: - Already have! I remember sitting in the waiting room at my doctor's office while reading it and being very aware of how blessed we are in our time, regarding health care, compared to during the time of the plague. It was a really excellent book.
Hi Joe, it looks like you and Debbi are having a very good time over here mate, I have been following your exploits on Facebook and am sad that we could not meet-up with you all. Sending love and hugs from both of us dear friend.
>93 jnwelch: In fact, this seals it. I have been thinking and thinking and thinking about what to do for my next birthday which ends in zero. London has been on the possibilities list, along with Yellowstone, Paris and the Dordogne, and several other places. I just showed this picture to P and said "I want to go to London for my birthday."
I'm not committing to this yet as I am sort of having fun thinking about what to do to celebrate the impending six-oh, but that photo is amazing.
>109 EBT1002: I too will be celebrating 60 next year Ellen, it would be great if you were celebrating part of yours in London.
>103 m.belljackson:, >104 m.belljackson:. Hi, Marianne. Thanks for the encouragement re The Man Who Planted Trees. It sure looks like a lovely book; I’m looking forward to reading it.
You’d love The Gate. The food is terrific, the staff friendly and helpful, and it’s a good-feeling space.
Charlie Trotter’s! I love that you know that now by-gone restaurant. You’re right, he/they did well by vegetarians.
>105 figsfromthistle:. Thanks, Anita! It was a delightful meetup. We should be getting the gang back together on Wednesday.
It would be easy to spend all day at Daunt’s. But you might want to bring someone along to help with the book haul, or a wheelbarrow.😀
>106 jessibud2:. Isn’t Year of Wonders excellent, Shelley? My sister recommended it to me, and that’s probably her best ever. I hope any cafe-goer who hasn’t read it gives it a try.
>107 johnsimpson:. Thanks, John. Other than missing pals like you and Caroline, it’s been a grand visit so far. Love and hugs to you and Karen.
>108 EBT1002:, >109 EBT1002:. LOL! I can’t wait to hear your reaction when you eventually get to Daunt Books, Ellen. And this is just plain a booklover’s town - there are so many great bookstores here.
>109 EBT1002:, >110 Caroline_McElwee:. Sounds like a plan! If it happens around this time of year, we might even join you. But if you decide to go to some lovely hiking area or whatever instead, Ellen, no worries. We can always parachute in some books for you.
Los Tres Americanos (named by Darryl) in front of Daunt Books, with complimentary cloth Daunt Books bags. Two of the bags actually are Darryl's; pikers Joe and Debbi only qualified for one bag between them. Oh, that avaricious bibliophile; they love him there. Claire believes that the airport notifies Daunt whenever he lands at Heathrow, so they can get the book displays ready.
>113 jnwelch: I think every bookstore loves Darryl! Red carpet treatment, right?
Happy Tuesday, Joe. Back to August weather here for a few days. Pushing 90 today. Back to turning on the A/C, after a nice respite. Let me know how your "secret walk" goes.
I am really enjoying the sprawling, chunkster, Deep River and my audio is a revisit of Beloved. This could qualify as the Great American Novel.
>114 msf59: Ha! You're probably right, Mark. Darryl gets the red carpet treatment, while the rest of us get the shabby astroturf.
Happy Tuesday, buddy. Wow, I didn't know it had heated up back home. We've lucked out here with the 60s and 70s; yesterday was a little rainy, but that's it.
The secret walk was a fun one. For those just tuning in, Madame MBH organized the day and wouldn't tell me where we were going. Our first stop was a farm, in the middle of London. Go figure! She was right in thinking I'd never guess. It was a charmer, with goats and pigs and chickens and so on, with a big park next to it where we read for a while. Then we went to our new favorite pub for the first time, The Duchess of Kent, where I had the best fish and chips I've ever had here, along with an outstanding apple crumble and ice cream. Check Facebook for her photos. Then we went to Camden Passage, a cool little shop mecca, where we're going to return later in the week for the market they have there. Anyway, it was grand, it was.
>115 richardderus: Interesting question, RD. I can download U.S. Amazon books here; I don't know whether I could reconfigure to do UK ones. Here's a Joe secret: I can't read poetry on Kindle. Why? I don't know. I have to read a tree-book when it comes to poetry, and the same for graphic novels.
>116 jnwelch: It makes perfect sense that GNs would be tree-only, given the importance of images to the experience of the story; and with poetry, I suppose the formatting is so important to the experience that the Kindle's sometimes spotty performance in reproducing formatting identically to the page is an issue.
THE FOUNTAINS OF SILENCE, a new novel with Rafa as a main character, though not happy-joy-joy given the Franco dominated setting in 1957
and an uneven ending, is definitely worth the illumination on relations between Spain and the U.S.
>117 richardderus: That sounds right, Richard. The poetry seems to get bled of its oomph when it's auto-formatted on a Kindle, at least for me. And even with good reproduction on a screen, the GN experience isn't the same.
Are we talking about the U.S. Open winner, Vivian's Rafa, or our grand-Rafa, Marianne? Or a different Rafa in Fountains of Silence? The last, it sounds like.
Oh, I read and very much liked her Salt to the Sea. I'll have to take a look at this one.
Reposting this here from my thread, so you pick it up sooner Joe:
Have you seen if there s anything you fancy on here during your stay, it's where I saw Andrea Gibson, great venue.
"Darryl gets the red carpet treatment, while the rest of us get the shabby astroturf." I love it! I hope you guys didn't mess up your knees on that turf.
I have Fountains of Silence on my radar too. I have really enjoyed her last 2 books.
>112 jnwelch:, >116 jnwelch: Ha! The two of you purchased more books (12) than I did (10), so I think you & Debbi have earned a star in the Hollywood Walk of Fame.
I look forward to the reunion of Los Tres Americanos at Shakespeare's Globe tonight to see Bartholomew Fair. Hopefully this won't be our last meet up of this trip.
>120 m.belljackson: Wasn't U.S. Open Rafa terrific, Marianne? I only got to see highlights, but what will and stamina for a guy who's been doing it for a long time. Really impressive.
Our Rafa would thank you by waving a toy or two at you.
I need to add Fountains of Silence to the WL. Thanks for the tip. Salt to the Sea should fit you well.
>121 Caroline_McElwee: Hi, Caroline. What's the latest from Prague? I'll stop by your thread.
Unfortunately, nothing at Union Chapel beckons, although we were near there yesterday when we went to Freightliner Farm on Liverpool Road. I hadn't fully appreciated how large an area Islington is. Have you ever been to the Duchess of Kent pub? We loved it.
>122 msf59: Yeah, it's touch being out on the shabby astroturf, man. That Darryl is one lucky guy.
I should check - I can't remember whether I read the second one by Ruta Sepetys. Good to hear you liked it, if not. I'll track down Fountains of Silence, too.
>122 msf59: There's Mr. Red Carpet! For some reason, the Daunt folks didn't get as excited about 2 people buying 6 books each as they did about your 10. It's probably because you're Daunt royalty and we're just a couple of wouldbe couldbes.
Debbi told me we're confirmed for meeting at that Tidbits (?) restaurant before the show. Looking forward to it! Agreed - let's figure out another time to get together before we all head back.
I love this one of Madame MBH leaving a knitting store in Camden Passage. She planned our day without my knowing where we were going. Those on FB can see the whole extravaganza in her post. We went to a farm in west Islington - no, I never would've guessed that one, and Camden Passage, a cool little no-car area with boutique shops like the knitting one, with adventures along the way, including our now-favorite pub, The Duchess of Kent on Liverpool Road.
These are from our first day, when we ventured to Culpeper Community Garden, a beautiful tucked away spot in a busy part of the city where locals grow whatever on their own small plots.
‘Morning, Joe! Happy Wednesday to you. Happy new thread.
Congrats on the February arrival of Fina! I love Rafa’s t-shirt.
>32 jnwelch: Gorgeous Peacock Cake – as a ‘retired’ cake decorator (made perhaps a dozen over the years for daughter’s birthday parties) my first thought was how much work had to have gone into it, the second was how clever it is.
>39 jnwelch: Hollow Kingdom is an LBB – Library Book Bullet – not quite as lethal as a BB, but still dangerous enough to get me to go to our library’s website and place a hold. We’ve such a small library – they only have one copy so who knows when it will be available.
>93 jnwelch: The pic of the book store makes me whimper.
Your trip sounds absolutely wonderful, thanks for sharing!
Hi Joe, just catching up on your travels and noticing all the things I have to see if I ever get back to London (someday!). Glad to see you and Debbie and Darryl & the gang are having a great time with great books and all other adventures.
>124 jnwelch: Yes, the three of us are meeting at tibits at 17.00; Claire will join us at ~17.30, once she gets off from work. I was thinking of going to Tate Modern beforehand, but I'll go there tomorrow after Bianca & I have lunch at Niche, the gluten-free restaurant next to Sadler's Wells that we saw after Alvin Ailey on Saturday night.
Yes, we should try to meet up at least once more before I leave on Tuesday. Monday is now open, save for afternoon lunch or tea with Rachael at the London Review Bookshop and Cake Shop, as I bowed out of a late dinner with her and Fliss in Cambridge that evening. Maybe we can chat during dinner or after the play.
>125 jnwelch:, >126 jnwelch: Great photos of you & Debbi!
I love the whole idea of a surprise day! She's a clever one, that Madame MBH. How did she come up with the locales? Did she know about them ahead of time, or did someone suggest them? So much fun! I love that ceramic in >126 jnwelch: and the book bags in >113 jnwelch: (and of course, the rest of that bookstore!). We have a farm in the middle of our city, too, but isn't that always such a fun and surprising find?
Enjoy the rest of your trip!
Hello Joe! I hope all is well with you.
>6 jnwelch: OF course the Rafa pics are a breath of fresh air. That kid if growing!
>123 kidzdoc: Nice to see another meet up! Always fun.
>126 jnwelch: That is one giant sunflower! My friend owns a farm locally any they recently added a sunflower area. Beautiful and they get so tall.
>I recently started Words of Radiance by Brain Sanderson on audio. As with the first, it will be a long journey, but I enjoyed the first one so I expect the same hear. Still floundering at the moment on a print read, but have The Girl Behind the Red Rope coming from the library.
One more thing: I watched 'What We Left Behind' last night. It a recently released documentary about the show Star Trek: Deep Sapce Nine. It was a joy to see the gang back together and also a little bit of different take on a retrospective documentary. If you liked DS9, I highly recommend it.
Wow! Lovely lovely photos of well... everyTHING and everyBODY. Thanks for sharing.
Your trip looks like one to remember... (should I say one for the books?)
I'm glad you are having so much fun!
Nice pics! The sunflower one scares me. They're so HUGE and that never fails to creep me out....
Happy rest of vacay.
Hey Joe, I'm glad to see you and Madame MBH are having a wonderful time in England! How nice to hang with Darryl and shop for, of all things, books! Carry on and enjoy the remainder of your trip!!
>127 karenmarie: Thanks, Karen! Rafa and Fina should be quite a duo. Isn't that peacock cake cool? Madame MBH is watching Great British Bake-Off on her computer sometimes, and I think even Paul Hollywood would approve its looks.
LBB sounds like a good choice to me - if you don't like Hollow Kingdom at the start, it's free-sies. If you do, off you go on a bonkers adventure.
Daunt is a booklover's dream. We're off to more great bookstores today - Foyles on Charing Cross, and Forbidden Planet nearby.
>128 bell7: Thanks, Mary. If you FB, get a hold of me there, and you can see Madame MBH's daily posts. We saw Darryl and Claire again last night, Claire for dinner at Tibits on Southwark, and then Darryl joined us for Ben Jonson's play, Bartholomew Fair, at the Sam Wanamaker, which is part of the Globe.
>129 kidzdoc: Hey, buddy. Great to see you last night, and Claire at dinner. Thanks re the photos.
We have our calendar now (!), so we'll figure out a chance to see you. We're off to Foyles and Forbidden Planet and thereabouts today.
>130 jessibud2: Hi, Shelley. That Madame MBH is a clever one, isn't she. She just researched and put it together herself. She figured I'd never guess we'd be going to a farm! She wanted to explore west Islington, so that's where the initial idea came from. What a great day!
We had another great one yesterday. We like to spend a day on the south bank of the Thames - buskers, Dinky Donuts (a tradition), a great book market.
Ah, our haul:
The Warden by Anthony Trollope (nice old edition)
The History of Mr. Polly by H.G. Wells (first ed. ppbk)
Winter in Thrush Green by Miss Read (first ed. ppbk)
Charles Dickens A Ladybird Book by L. Du Garde Peach
>131 brodiew2: Hello Brodie! Yeah, that Rafa is growing fast - we spend a month away and he changes. I'll try to remember to post a couple of him going off to his new pre-school when we get back.
We had another meetup with Darryl and Claire last night, although no photo this time. We were too busy eating and chatting (a good bit about books - go figure. Although Claire is a church bell-ringer, so that was fascinating, too).
Those sound like a couple of good reads. My linking is a bit wonky, so I'll have to check out the touchstones later.
I did like Deep Space 9, but I have a sister who LOVED it. I'll have to let her know about the "What We Left Behind" documentary. Netflix?
>132 streamsong: Ha! You're welcome, Janet. It's a circuitous process to get personal photos up here, but I'm trying to post at least a few while we're here. In fact, here are two from the farm in the city that we visited:
We're having a blast, and this is definitely one for the books. Each visit we say "this is the best ever!"
>133 richardderus: Thanks, RD. I wonder why someone hasn't done a scary sunflowers movie? "Children of the Sunflowers"? Maybe they're just too cheerful. I don't get the creep vibe, although this one did tap me on the shoulder and snicker after the photo.
>134 Carmenere:. Thanks, Lynda! We need more books, wouldn’t you know it, so we’re going out to find some today.😀
Sweet Thursday, Joe! I tried posting last night but LT was being wonky. Extra sweet for me, since it is my last work day, before vacay. I am not surprised you guys are having a terrific time and I like that walking path. Stop by my thread, there is some good news to be shared over there.
>137 msf59:. Morning, Mark - Sweet Thursday! Wish you were here for bookstore day.😀
Good news? I’ll be right over!
>136 jnwelch: 'What We Left Behind' is not on Netflix. I was able to get mine through the library which may be the best bet.
Happy Saturday, Joe. We leave for the airport, shortly. Looking forward to revisiting the Carolinas and seeing my siblings. It has been over 10 years since I seen my brother. I will check in when I can. Enjoy the rest of your time, in London Town.
>139 brodiew2:. Thanks, Brodie. Good info on “What We Left Behind”.
>140 ChelleBearss: Thanks, Chelle! We’ve been having a swell time. I’ll post more photos here soon.
>141 msf59:. Happy (oops) Sunday, Mark! I hope you’re having a grand start to your vacation in the Carolinas, and fun visiting your brother. Man, those year numbers get big fast, don’t they. I’ll check in on your thread to keep up,
>143 karenmarie: And now, evening for us, Karen! Thanks for stopping by. It's been a goer here.
Here are some photos from a meetup at Southbank Centre Food Market, not far from the National Theater.
Darryl (kidzdoc) and Bianca (drachenbraut25)
Bianca and Joe cracking up
Genny (gennyt), Bianca, Claire (Sakerfalcon), Joe, Rhian (SandDune)
>144 jnwelch: lovely to see you all, and Rhian too, I have been worried about her absense from LT for a while.
>145 Caroline_McElwee:. Wish you’d been here with us, Caroline! Rhian seems to be doing well. I’ve been missing Bianca on LT, but with her new London job and things more settled back in Germany, she hopes to be on LT more.
I am so happy that ou guys didn't forget to take a picture of the group and thanks for posting it here. It looks like you had fun and I'll bet there was lots of book talk going on. Not to mention the food.
I am reading Eleanor Oliphant is Completely Fine and am loving it. I laugh out loud and find myself smiling. I didn't take a BB from you but I did get nudged that way by your report on it. Certainly is a fun read. I am sure that somebody is goin to make a movie out of it.
Sorry to report that Forbidden Planet in New York City is a shadow of its former self though still a good place for the new sci-fi and comics.
We've been looking for a Geraldine Brooks to do in our Book Group - have to give this new one a look
>144 jnwelch: Thanks for sharing the meet-up pictures, Joe.
London is a good place to meet fellow LTers :-)
>147 benitastrnad: You're welcome, Benita. There was lots of book talk, you're right. Bianca gave me I'jaam: An Iraqi Rhapsody by Sinan Antoon, and further tempted me to read it by telling me it's Kafkaesque. She knows I'm a sucker for Kafka. And I picked up Rosewater by Tade Thompson on Claire's recommendation. So far we're bringing back 44 books - but there may be more today. Good thing we brought the empty duffel bags!
I'm glad you're loving Eleanor Oliphant. I just tell people to hang in there with it. Making a movie out of it: I hadn't thought about that, but I bet you're right. It makes me think of Miss Pettigrew Lives for A Day - terrific cast for the movie; I just wish it had been a bit better. It's still very good.
>148 magicians_nephew: Too bad about Forbidden Planet in NYC, Jim. Are the two connected in any way?
Year of Wonders is a great book.
>149 jessibud2: Sounds like a good tip, Shelley. Foreign Correspondence is a new one to me.
>150 FAMeulstee: You're welcome, Anita. London is a good place for meeting LTers. One year we had a very big group that included Paul Cranswick and Hani. We see Darryl more here than we do in the U.S.!
These are some photos from our day trip to Leeds Castle and Canterbury. The gardens at Leeds were spectacular. This post is all Leeds.
Garden at Leeds
Idyllic in Canterbury
Back to Leeds
That's Canterbury Cathedral in this last one. I'll post more from Canterbury at some point.
Yesterday we spent all day at Kew Gardens - so gorgeous. And there was a big Chihuly outdoor and indoor exhibit there. I'll post some of that, too, when time permits.
We're into our last few days here - head home on Thursday. Today it's Trafalgar Square and that area, including bookstore-lined Cecil Street, and then Stephen Fry at the London Palladium tonight.
Greetings from South Carolina, Joe. We are also having a good time, but sadly no Meet Ups. I love your Leeds & LT photos. A very happy bunch. We head to North Carolina, tomorrow morning.
Great photos, Joe. Thanks for sharing them with us non-facebookers! Looks like this vacation has been a big success.
Looks like you are both having a great time Joe. It's years since I was at Leeds Castle. Does it still have the aviary?
Love the horse outside Canterbury Cathedral.
>154 msf59:. Greetings to you in South Carolina, Mark! We’re in Covent Garden right now, sounds like you’re having a grand time. Do we have any 75ers in the Carolinas? Have fun in NC; I remember it as beautiful from years ago.
>155 jessibud2:. Thanks, Shelley. I wish they were easier to share here- there are a lot more over on Facebook, thanks to Madame MBH. But at least I can get you some of them. I’m glad you’re liking them. Yes, it’s been a big success; every year we say it’s “our best trip ever”, and this year that fits again.
>156 Caroline_McElwee:. We’ve been having a great time here, Caroline. If Leeds Castle still has an aviary, we missed it. But we sure do love those gardens!
Isn’t that horse by Canterbury Cathedral cool?
>157 magicians_nephew:. I believe you’re thinking of Kensington Gardens, Jim, and yes, we’ve seen that most excellent Peter Pan statue there.
I'll circle back when we get home and post some Chihuly at Kew Gardens and Canterbury pics for those not on Facebook. We fly back tomorrow. We had a lovely day yesterday that included the Moomin Shop (how many have read from the wonderful Tove Jannson series?) and an evening with Stephen Fry at the London Palladium. The large venue was packed (!), and Madame MBH had gotten us wonderful seats maybe 20 rows from the stage. No shocker, he was brilliant -erudite, witty, entertaining, none of it seeming rehearsed, and much of it obviously spontaneous (including audience choices and questions). He took us from primordial chaos up through the original gods, the Clash of the Titans, the toppling of Kronos by Zeus and cohorts, up to Zeus's good friend Prometheus helping humans learn to use fire and being punished for it, all in three hours, with various fascinating side stops and detours. At one point, after explaining how it was really Pandora's Jar, not Box, due to an ancient mistranslation, he told us we could now correct people at parties who say "Pandora's Box". "After you get punched in the face for it, you'll better understand my life." He was terrible at sports as a kid (no surprise), but was a natural storyteller even then, and would entertain the boys at night at boarding school with Greek myths. At age 8 or 9, a teacher who knew he loved Latin asked if he wanted to learn Greek. "Yes!" So the teacher gave him a primer so he could learn on his own(!) It made connections with English to help the reader, and that's where his fascination with the Greek and Latin roots of English words began - examples of which he sprinkled throughout the night.
We loved it.
The show is derived from his book Mythos, which I'm about 1/3 of the way through - it is most excellent.
Glad you've been having such a good vacation Joe. I've been meaning to go on a trip to Kew Gardens for years but somehow never quite manage to get there.
Did Stephen also tell you that the Greek pithos (jar), when turned upside down, looks uncannily like an uterus? So the story of opening Pandora's jar is also a cautionary tale about the dangers of getting involved with a woman (the Greeks were infamous for peppering their myths with cautionary tales about the dangers of women - they were clearly terrified of their potential power). And I'd love to know whether he interprets Hope being left in the jar in the jar-half-full or jar-half-empty way...
Sweet Thursday, Joe. Have a safe return home, my friend. I really enjoyed following you along, on your trip. We will head back on Saturday.
Hi Joe, what a great time I've had catching up with you here. Congratulations on the upcoming birth of your grandaughter. What a wonderful addition to the family. Best wishes to the Mom and Dad as well. My daughter's second child was a girl and her big brother was very protective and caring - actually he still is now that he's 20 and she's 15!
Thank you for sharing with us your London trip, I love how you and Debbie really get out and explore that historic and fantasic city.
>160 jnwelch: Oh myyyy to quote Takei. I am mortally jealous of y'all's evening with Le Fry!
>163 scaifea: "potential" LOL "potential" LMAO
The uterus is the ONLY means by which A Man may grasp for immortality. Explain how the power to make/prevent its occurrence is "potential" power? And, had y'all heeded Lysistrata as the clarion call it was, y'all'd have it now!
Hi, everyone. We're home, jetlagged but happy. Great trip, and it's nice to be back. Laundry, grocery shopping and getting re-organized are on the agenda.
>161 NarratorLady: Stephen Fry was so outstanding, Anne. As Debbi said, the experience of a lifetime. I know, I was hearing his voice while reading Mythos, too (I wouldn't put it past him to have dictated the whole thing!), and now I will even more so.
The weather was very good to us while we were there. 60s and 70s F, with many blue-skyed days, including that wonderful one at Leeds Castle and Canterbury. I didn't use my umbrella at all, and Debbi only once. I will say, we're fine with rainy days (in fact, I love them), but the good weather was mighty enjoyable. Most unusual for us was no traditional museums this time - we did see the Churchill War Rooms, which is a kind of museum, but that was it.
>162 SandDune: We loved Kew Gardens, as you can tell, Rhian. If you can swing it, now's a good time to go, with the Chihuly exhibit there. We were just talking about how we've always enjoyed being in beautiful outdoor spaces where there's an outdoor sculpture show sprinkled throughout.
>163 scaifea: We got to hear a fair amount about Ouranus's "man package" and various other synonyms being thrown across the water, Amber, but he didn't mention the Pandora's Jar/uterus idea. I am intrigued by how irresistible curiosity plays a role there and in the Adam and Eve story - and I'm suspecting others. What was up with them Greeks re women and the uterus? Were they Republicans?
I was hoping Stephen Fry would talk about the nixie (is that the right word?) Hope being the only one left in the jar when it was re-sealed, but unfortunately he didn't. He doesn't in the book either. What is the meaning of Hope left in the jar, from your POV?
>164 msf59: Sweet Thursday and Happy Friday, Mark. Thanks. We're back safe and sound. The flight was smooth and uneventful - I finished Murder in the Blood, the new Doyle and Acton mystery (another excellent entry) and read a good bit of the newest (translation in the U.S.) Inspector Montalbano mystery, The Other End of the Line, which is one of the best I've read so far. Looks like you're having a wonderful nature-filled trip in the Carolinas. Safe travels back on Saturday.
>165 DeltaQueen50: Thanks so much, Judy. We're all excited about Josefina, and I think Rafa will be a wonderful big brother like your daughter's son. I'll post a new photo of him soon.
We love to explore London. What a city! One of our favorite parts always is just hanging out in Trafalgar Square and enjoying the buskers and watching people from all over the world come through. There was a great guitar player and singer named Andrew John Jones busking there this time; I want to follow up with his music. He was so good that it reminded me of times when successful professional musicians like Joshua Bell show up in a public space and start playing, with onlookers not knowing who they are.
>166 richardderus: You would've loved seeing Le Fry, Richard. He lived up to what we imagined and then some. How great to be that brilliant and entertaining. Three hours of a "lecture" on Greek myths, and the whole crowd is mesmerized and goes crazy at the end?! How is that possible?
Your Lysistrata comment makes me think of The Power by Naomi Alderman, a fictional take on that issue that I enjoyed. We're seeing women assume positions of power in many parts of the world, and I hope it's a tidal wave. It's not a guarantee of better decisions, of course, but I think it's much needed, and the direction we're headed in with old white men at the helm is demeaning and a disaster. Plus it's about time. Finally received the right to vote in 1920? What kind of stupidity was rampant pre-1920?
>167 Familyhistorian: Thanks, Meg. We're safely back home, and what a great trip it was. The best ever, we agreed - which is a longstanding joke between us, as we say that every time!
As a welcome-home offering, I thought a hummingbird cake would do the trick:
The cream-cheese frosting's heavy in the middle, but that's just how I roll.
Glad you arrived home safely, and had a fun visit Joe, just disappointed not to have been able to get together with you, Debbi and Darryl this time. Still, we'll enjoy it all the more next time.
Happy Saturday, Joe. Welcome home. It is our last day in the Carolinas. We head back to Greenville SC, to catch our flight. We arrive later tonight. I will miss my family members and the splendid mountains.
>168 jnwelch: Ἐλπὶς is the word Hesiod uses for Hope in his version of the Pandora story, and his is the most canonical version. I'm surprised that Fry doesn't talk about it - it's a key element in the story. I don't know that I have a solid opinion on what hope being left in the jar means. I do love the ambiguity of it, which the Greeks were so good at in their stories: it's trapped in the jar so life is forever hopeless? Or, we still have control over hope, at least, so things can't be all bad? I guess I sort of prefer thinking of it as this: we still have hope with us, but it's a substance that must be controlled. Open the lid too much and it will escape as well, so use it wisely. Of course, with the uterus bit, Hope can be seen as the hope of future generations, but that jar is pretty dangerous, too. *cue eye roll at how misogynistic those Greeks were* Strong women can only be portrayed as monsters (Medea) or essentially asexual (Athene).
>172 richardderus: Yum! Thank you, Richard!
I'm all for extra cream cheese frosting in the middle of a hummingbird cake. I'm just trying to show patience and use a fork, rather than shoving my face into it.
>173 Caroline_McElwee: Thanks, Caroline. That was the one sadness from our trip - we sure would've liked to have seen you. I'm glad, at least, that the sciatica cleared up enough for you to get to Prague. You've inspired us; neither of us has been, so we're talking about getting to Prague next year, along with Venice, which Debbi has never seen.
>174 msf59: Thanks, Mark. Happy Saturday. Enjoy that remaining time in the Carolinas. I'll bet you'll miss your family, and the splendid mountains. You hadn't seen your brother, in particular, in quite a long time, right?
It's warm but drizzly back here, and a neighbor said it's supposed to rain all day tomorrow. That's okay by us, as we gradually get our internal clocks back where they need to be.
>175 scaifea: You make me think of the viciously vindictive Hera, too, Amber, among those dangerous women. Athena comes off pretty well in coaching Odysseus and Telemachus, seems to me. Demeter and Persephone do all right, too. Plus the male gods are a vicious bunch, aren't they, as are many of the male mortals. I personally don't get a big misogynistic vibe from the myths, but maybe I just don't know enough. It's definitely out of balance, that's for sure, with Zeus and other males forcing themselves on women in particular, and patriarchy existing everywhere. The recent Circe book by Madeline Miller also comes to mind.
I like your interpretation of Hope being sealed in the jar. I really don't know what to make of that. It's going to take some mulling. All the bad stuff let loose into the world, but not Hope, who stays sealed in the jar. Hmm. I need to think about your uterus idea, too. Hope for future generations. Hmm, again. Lots to think about.
I'll post some more from our trip in the next few days, but first, we need one of young Rafa, after conquering his poor Dad.
>176 jnwelch: Athene comes off non-threatening because she's asexual. But she's also a god, so there's both danger inherent in that and a sort of free pass. As far as the misogyny goes, I'm fairly happy not to be a woman living in those myths...
It looks like a great trip! Love the photos. And Rafa is quite the handsome little dude, isn't he?
>178 scaifea:. I get what you’re saying about Athena, Amber. She’s my favorite, and I could see being her, although asexual doesn’t sound like much fun! Other than her, I can’t think of a man or woman I’d want to be, living in those myths.😀
>179 banjo123:. Thanks, Rhonda! We’re totally unbiased, as you’d expect, but we do think that Rafa is a mighty cute little kid. I’m glad you find him a handsome little dude, too.😅
>181 quondame: Good tales of Athena's wrath, Susan. I sense a theme - don't open that box! I mean, jar.
I didn't know that's how Tiresias became blind.
What a wonderful vacation you had! Thank you for being so good about posting photos. If we do go to London (and surrounding area?) next year for my birthday, it would probably be in September. My birthday is in August but it's right as the start-of-semester activities are at their most intense. Besides, the weather would likely be much nicer in September, right?
I enjoyed following you and Debbi around on FB, Joe.
>175 scaifea: >176 jnwelch: On the discussion of hope being left in Pandora's box, in Dutch despair and hope are words close to eachother. Not sure about ancient Greek. But to me hope has two faces, it can be nice to have hope, but it can also lead you away from accepting reality.
Thanks for recommending Buddhism Plain and Simple by Steve Hagan on Ella's thread, it sounds like a good starting book for me.
And thanks for sharing the latest Rafa picture :-)
>183 EBT1002: I'm sure Joe will chime in on this Ellen, but I'd definitely go in September. Travel will be less expensive than in August, the prime month for European holidays. And there will be far fewer tourists with all the kiddos back in school. I can't vouch for the London weather though, that's too much of a crap shoot any time of year.
Hi Joe!! I've been lurking through your travels, which looked wonderful as always.
Morning, Joe. Happy Sunday. Thanks, for keeping my thread warm, while I was away cavorting. I hope you are slowly getting back to normal after your wonderful trip. I am a bit frazzled today, after a long travel day, but I do have a pair of cushion days, to get some more R & R in, before returning to work on Tuesday. I am having a good time with the Chiang collection. Enjoy your day.
>183 EBT1002: Thanks, Ellen. It was a great vacation, and thank you re the photos. It just takes a while to post personal ones, doesn't it.
I can unreservedly recommend September for going to London. We originally picked it because we thought students would be back in school and it would be outside the traditional tourist season - and because it would be cooler weather. All proved to be true. It was in the 60s and 70s F while we were there this time, perfect for us. It's gotten into the 80s sometimes in the last 6 years (we've been in London 5 of the last 6), but only briefly. I do bring a pair of shorts, but normally end up only wearing them around the airbnb flast.
We probably won't be there next September - we're talking about going to Venice (Debbi's never been) and Prague (neither of us has been) - but we plan to be back the year after.
We also always pack two empty duffel bags to bring back books. We set a new record this time - 44 of them. So many great bookstores!
>184 FAMeulstee: Hi, Anita. Oh, I'm so glad you had fun following us on Facebook. I encourage people to do that, because Debbi does that daily report, and there are so many more photos. But I understand those who just don't want to be on it.
That's a really important point about the two faces of hope. Very Buddhist, actually.
I'm glad you saw that mention of Buddhism Plain and Simple by Steve Hagen on Ella's thread. As you could tell, I now believe that, in the past, I've recommended "starter" Buddhism books that are just too advanced, as much as I've loved them. Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind and Why Buddhism is True, two of my favorites ever, fit that. The Hagen should be much better for an initial grounding. Please let me know what you think. I get asked this on a pretty regular basis.
Thanks re the Rafa-man. We got to spend a good bit of Facetime with him this morning, as he played at their house. What a busy boy! His parents tell us he loves his new school, and especially its garden that the kids get to play in. When he comes back inside from it, he and a friend hold hands and come back in together. How cute must that be?!
>185 lauralkeet: Hi, Laura. Thanks for chiming in on going to London in September. We sound pretty good playing the chimes together, don't you think?
I'm glad you've been a travel report-lurker, and have enjoyed it. It was a wonderful trip. We were saying today, it's hard to get up and not have more London adventures ahead of us, but it's also nice to be home.
>186 msf59:, >187 msf59: Hiya, Mark. Oh, that's great. How smart you were to give yourself two cushion days before heading back to work. I always tried to do something like that - going directly from vacation back to work is like getting smashed in the face with a not very pleasant pie. Some cushion time makes it a lot better.
What a beautiful photo of Whitewater Falls NC. I love unfamous waterfalls in the woods. Did you hang out there for a while? Sure is a lovely spot.
I'm glad you're enjoying that Chiang collection. Really top shelf, isn't it. I'm closing in on finishing the Stephen Fry Mythos book; wow, have I learned a lot. I was talking today to Debbi about Sisyphus - if I ever knew why he kept pushing that boulder up the incline, I'd forgotten it. Not at all what I expected. Next up is a weird (I'm guessing) Japanese time travel book called Before the Coffee Gets Cold, that I found on our trip. (I love the staff recommendations in good bookstores!)
Here are some photos from our Canterbury visit.
This is where religious pilgrims entered Canterbury.
This is Chaucer blessing the multitudes on the main drag.
While we were there, there was a "Festival of Hops" going on. "Hops" are a key ingredient in beer. Mark would've loved this. Many paraders were decorated with garlands of hops or otherwise wearing hops.
Here they are "Morris Dancing" in the parade. Morris is an ancient, not very complicated but certainly merry, dance.
Your trip sounds really wonderful Joe. I guess I've enjoyed the photo of Rava best though lol. Thanks for the tip on the best time to visit London.
Joe and Mark - VICTORIAN POETRY, ed. by Andrews and Percival and dated 1931,
has a just read poem halfway through the never-ending volume, FROM THE BOTHIE OF TOBER-NA-VUOLICH,
Part III, Lines 19-83,
which features a hidden steam and waterfall.
Written in 1848 by Arthur Hugh Clough.
Favorite line: "You are shut in, left alone with yourself
and perfection of water."
It’s been so much fun following Debbi’s travelogue. I looked forward to it every day! Please thank her for me.
We were in Prague earlier this year and Venice two years ago and adored them both; so when the time comes to plan I’ll be happy to share my info with you. Both times we went in April and had lovely weather - as you know, that’s serendipitous and not due to excellent planning. We managed to get in and out of Venice before the cruise ships arrived and avoided those huge crowds. Shuffling your way along canals and over bridges is no fun so check cruise schedules!
(Can you tell I was a travel agent in a previous life?😀)
Facebook is such a blessing! Like a slideshow you can leave, get a snack, and come back to without earning the stinkeye.
>191 weird_O: Thanks, Bill. I'm trying to think of what was weird on the trip. The Chihulys kinda were, although they were gorgeous. Black pudding and blood sausage sure seem weird to me. Cricket - with apologies to Paul and John Simpson, that's one weird sport.
>192 brenzi: Thanks, Bonnie. Rafa's always our favorite, too. :-) September is a great month to visit London and the UK.
>193 m.belljackson: Nice line, Marianne, thanks - very apropos! And who can resist a poem titled From the Bothie of Tober-Na-Vuolich. Not me, anyway. I'll try to find it.
>194 SandDune: Oh good, Rhian. I'm optimistic that Buddhism Plain and Simple will work well for you. He lays it out in a well-ordered, concise way, and doesn't mess around. Fingers crossed! I may re-read it myself, once I make a dent in our London purchases.
>195 NarratorLady: Oh, that's great to hear re Debbi's travelogue, Anne - I just let her know about your and Anita's kind comments and you made her happy. She did a number of those late at night after we'd been at it all day and most of the evening. The positive reactions really helped.
Oh, when we get closer to it I'll take you up on sharing your info on Venice and Prague! Great point about cruise schedules - I'll make sure to tell Debbi and make that part of our planning. We may ask you how the heck we comprehensively check on the cruise schedules!
How excellent to be a travel agent in a previous life - there's a skill set that keeps paying off, I'm sure.
>196 richardderus: Agreed, Richard! I learn a lot from Facebook, as information gets shared. And I also get some big laughs. That guy photoshopping himself into the Kylie Jenner fashion photos really got me today. Brilliant!
Thanks for posting the photos here. I like seeing them.
I finished Eleanor Oliphant is Completely Fine today and had such a good time laughing. That is a fine book and not at all intended as only ‘women’s fiction.” This is a novel that deserves wider readership than that! Lots of fun. I listened to the recorded version and it was very well done. Easy nighttime listening when I wasn’t watching the PBS Country Music series.
I also finished Red Rising this weekend. What a great YA Sci/Fi dystopian adventure. My local B&N book club read it and we had a good discussion about it. I am going to try to find the second book as a recorded book and listen to it.
Planning next year's travels when this year's are barely over, Joe? Isn't retirement great? I'm doing that too even though my travels aren't yet over for this year. There is just so much to see and do!
I enjoyed your travel photos, Joe. You had a great time.
Nice to make travel plans for next year, already! Yes, avoid the cruise ships, very wise;-)
>199 benitastrnad: You're welcome, Benita. I"m glad you've enjoyed the photos.
And enjoyed Eleanor Oliphant is Completely Fine! Such a fine book, isn't it. I agree, not just for women at all. I think it's done pretty darn well on the bestseller lists, probably due to word of mouth like Where the Crawdads Sing. But an even wider readership would be welcome. I liked Red Rising, too, and the rest of the series was good.
>200 EBT1002: Ha! Thanks, Ellen. A new record for us. The next highest was 42 - which happened the year we bought the two duffel bags to bring them home!
>201 EBT1002: Do give Eleanor Oliphant a try, Ellen. I think you'll be glad you did. Just remember that at the beginning you may think all we appreciators of it are crazy. It's well worth hanging in there.
>202 Familyhistorian: LOL! Yes, retirement is great, Meg. We want to make sure we get to wished-for places while we're still a flexible and mobile unit. We've got a bit more travel this year, too, but all in the U.S. That's been one of the most appreciated boons of retirement - the freedom to travel.
>203 EllaTim: Thanks, Ella. It was a great time, although last year meeting you all in Amsterdam was right up there.
It is nice to start making those travel plans; we're used to planning way ahead, mainly due in the past to theater in London, where we often need to get tickets well ahead of time. But it's also fun just to put together a loose itinerary and dream a bit.
Close-ups! Here we are eating at Le Pain Quotidien in Covent Garden. The food was so good! We've become fans of the restaurant; we ate at one near Daunt Books, too, with Darryl and Claire. There are a couple now in Chicago, so we plan to try one here.
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