New Catalog #2: Bugs and small issues

NOTE: This thread has been continued here: http://www.librarything.com/topic/62849

UPDATE: See the blog post

Chris and I have just rolled out a new catalog, or anyway a substantially revised one. There were also some changes to work pages. We'll blog about both soon—as soon as the really dire issues are addressed. There will no doubt be a lot of comments, questions, bug reports and etc.

To deal with the volume, I want to split this up into two threads:

New Catalog #1: Larger issues: Larger reflections on what we did. For the sake of argument, assume that it's "working" for you, and concentrate on whether you like how it works.

New Catalog #2: Bugs and small issues (this thread): Small issues, particularly ones we can just fix. I want these sequestered, so we aren't stuck with messages 2-20 in the main thread being about some trivial bug that got fixed.

More later. Thanks.

Request: If you're seeing something bad—obviously bad, not just an aversion to our colors, which are perhaps bad—tell us what your OS and browser is. And try hitting refresh (plus shift, control, whatever) a few times to make sure you have the right versions of everything.

Known issue: The talk page somehow changed it style slightly—different font and no lines on the box. This is a side-effect, and will be quashed as soon as we figure out how it happened.

My dates for started reading/stopped are blank in the catalog.

Known issue: Speed. The new catalog is now slower, but so many files changed so radically that the server is having a hard-time keeping up with all the work of reparsing and regenerating files for you. Give it some time.

>3 mcalister: . Chris is on it. Don't edit your data, trying to put the data back. It's there; it's just not showing right.

Ok, really small bug on Safari/iPhone 3G (most up to date OS version): Around the icons in the top bar I see tiny red lines of one pixel wide. On which side of the icon they are depends on the zoom level.

So my first impression: All in all I can say it looks different. Don't really know yet what to think of it.

There is almost 2 inches of a light green block at the top of the catalog. The tabs are normal and then there is the green block and then a bar that says next page in the middle in and 1-20 of XX on the left and the number of pages available on the right.

The column headings are gone.

The green box has icons that stack down, each on a new line.

The left is
List,
Covers,
Organize

Next is
Style
A
B
C
D
E
(Space)
Sprocket Symbol

Next is
Sort
Power Edit
Print

Starting next to this but down one line from Print is a 9 inch bar that says search
Underneath there is another 9 inch bar that says Titles/Authors with a small triangle after it.

On the extreme right just above the first 9 inch bar (search) there is an empty white box not quite 1.5 inches.

It looks like what you have chosen is blue instead of green.

FF 2.XX, XP

>5 koffieyahoo:

Didn't test the iPhone. Will now.

>6 FicusFan:

Yeah, you are seeing it without CSS, or with some but not all of it. I'll try your configuration, but I suspect that something's caught in your cache. Anyone else with XP FF2 seeing similar?

Firefox 3.0.8, Vista, the icons on the far right in Library view are a tad tiny with lack of contrast particularly for the Details page icon (preferred old icon) but if it could be made much darker in contrast to the background (book page same problem) would be nice. And perhaps a bit bigger? Ta. :)

7: Nope, I'm seeing it fine, no green box or whatever.

FF2 is showing similar problems on the Mac. Weeerd.

I also have no dates (Started /Ended). I have entered them in the catalog, but they are blank. I have the correct number of columns, and I think the right ones, but no headings so can't be sure

re 9: ack, sorry. Somehow my FF updated to 3.0 when I wasn't looking.

>12 Heather19:

FF is much more aggressive about updates, so fewer people have 2. I don't think anyone tests on 1 anymore.

I fixed the Started/Ended dates thing.

Yes, my started/stopped dates are all blank, BUT, sorting on 'Stopped' appears to be working, so I think the data is there, just not showing?

(FF 3.0.8)

ETA: Chris is *fast*. Disregard.

>chris

just letting you know that whatever you did to fix the started/stopped issue, it's working fine for ff3/vista.

it looks great!

When I tried the giant search bar to look for 2009 (which I have). The list I got starts under the bar at the top.

The first book I can only see the last 4 lines of the tags. The rest of the columns for the book are hidden under the bar that says Next Page in the middle. Everything but the tags are blank.

My dates are back.

Also the bubble over the icon for review is all the same color, whether or not you have written a review or not.

On IE6/XP I get a horizontal scrollbar at the bottom of the page. Screen size: 1400x1050.

Known issue: The talk page somehow changed it style slightly

Now fixed.

Also the bubble over the icon for review is all the same color, whether or not you have written a review or not.

It's subtle, but it should be different.

Ficusfan

There's clearly a FF2 bug. Basically, everything "inline" is being shown "block." It's very off and wrong. FF2 is only 1-2%, but it's something we should support—and it took us by surprise here. Chris is on it.

The "search by" dropdown seems to go off the side of the page a little. If I drag the right edge of my browser to the right then it shows fine, but if I drag the right edge to the left with the dropdown dropped down, it doesn't move with the edge and gets covered up.

FF3/Vista

I keep FF at about 7/8ths of the screen width so that I can see the Vista sidebar.

Everything else seems to be fine, no better than that, it all looks marvellous - great job. (Is there smoke coming out of the servers yet? This is really going to test 'em)

On IE6/XP I get a horizontal scrollbar at the bottom of the page. Screen size: 1400x1050.

Did you get one in the old catalog?

23> Now you ask: Yes I think so.

For me, the Add books page no longer loads properly. The left-hand side of the page appears to load properly, but the recently added books list on the write displays as a large, empty white box. On the status bar at the bottom, "Done" changes to "Error on page" a few seconds after the page is loaded.

IE7 on XPsp2

i'm running ff3 on vista.

when i go to cover view and designate 100 covers per page, that value keeps returning to 40 each time i advance a page.

I have one book without tags in my library. Tag page shows "(no tag) (1)"; which is correct.
Selecting that tag (i.e. "no tag") shows me a "No books" catalog screen.

I clicked on "Organize" over ten minutes ago -- nothing has loaded. I don't know if there's a problem or if it's just slow...I do have a lot of tags...

>23 timspalding:

I thought so. I was looking at it today. Arg, is all I have to say. I'll look at it more once this settles down.

>25 SilentInAWay: Add books problem.

Interesting. We're on it.

when i go to cover view and designate 100 covers per page, that value keeps returning to 40 each time i advance a page.

Cool. Fixable.

>7 timspalding:

Do you have a tag called no-tag or are you assuming we're giving you that. (We are, I think.)

Ref: 21

Also the bubble over the icon for review is all the same color, whether or not you have written a review or not.

It's subtle, but it should be different.

This is working fine for me (bubble is shaded in light blue/gray)


Ref: 26 - I'm seeing that too

FF3/XP

>27 kevmalone: Same here.

Safarie/OSX 10.4

P.S. Yes, it's your generated "no-tags" tag.

I can just see that the review bubble is shaded; it's pretty subtle.

I clicked on "Organize" over ten minutes ago -- nothing has loaded. I don't know if there's a problem or if it's just slow...I do have a lot of tags...

Your query probably errorer out on memory. Can you try again?

The lock washer (?) replacing the pencil for changing columns in Styles is not all that clear to me.

>29 timspalding: (no tag) is LT generated as any fule kno

>32 timspalding:

worked this time -- under 30 seconds, I think

Lock washer? Lock washer?! I had to look that up. I guess it does look like one.

It's a little wheel cog. It's become fairly common for "preferences" or "advanced." I can understand that it's not universal, though.

I want to keep the pencil meaning "edit a book."

Tim,

My catalog looks normal (new version) again. Thanks (Chris too). Very Pretty too !

The search works, the column headings are back, and yes there is a difference in the bubble. Can you make it more pronounced though to differentiate between you have written a review or you have not ? Its soo small and soo minor in terms of difference.

for some reason when i click on the sort button it opens my library in a new tab, with the LT banner cut off and no sort box. when i close that tab, everything is normal in the original tab and the sort box is there.

again, ff3 and vista

Awhile back I had a problem not being able to sort titles ascending. The new sort box fixed that in Firefox, although I haven't finished playing with it.

When I click on sort a new tab opens and shows me the same list as in the tab I'm coming from. When I close the new tab I see the tab I'm coming from with a light box, I guess, with the sort controls. Do I need the new tab? Can you get rid of it?

Robert

Ditto 38, FF3/OSX.

Clicking "show all {pages of the library}" partially obscures the catalogue.

Yes me too on the sort button. It turns the original screen grey, and then opens a new tab

with this URL http://www.librarything.com/catalog_bottom.php

The sort box is in the new tab, and not the original one.

Before when the top of the catalog was a mess the sort worked fine. Now not so much.

Also I have a question. I clicked on Organize (prefer Tags) and it has a listing of 3 tags with nothing there. I don't know if its supposed to be a space or a null but there is no title to it and it says I have 3. I sorted the column in the catalog both ways and the 3 books don't seem to come to the top, though maybe they did but I can't see a nothing if its part of a list with other tags. Because there is nothing there, I also can't click on the title to pull up the books with that tag.

I'm not sure if this is new or just the first time I noticed it but...

When you click on a link in Organize view, the displayed list of books is headed by the tag name, followed by a link labelled "remove" in square braces.

This is misleading -- nothing is "removed" per se when you click on this link (I was worried for a moment that this might be some misplaced way of deleting the tag). Instead, this link seems to simply return you to the full catalog. Would not "return to catalog" be more clear here?

44> That's always been there it's showing that you have a filter set (in this case a tag). Clicking "remove" removes the filter.

It used to say Library, not remove. Remove means delete - not good.

>46 kevmalone: yeah, I realized that. I was just documenting my first naive reaction.

funny thing -- I've probably seen it a million times without noticing it.

Very minor issue happening intermittently for me. Sometimes, when I change the style of my library, the style bar re-displays "broken" with the B kinda hanging out in space (Note: I wasn't selecting Style B, I was selecting either A or E both times this happened). Clicking a new style again seems to fix this. Random, and way down the list of things you should worry about, but posted here for completeness.

Example of issue:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ty1997/3446241751/

FF 3.0.8

My catalog looks normal (new version) again. Thanks (Chris too). Very Pretty too !

Well, actually not. Chris fixed it for FF2 to some degree—it's the catalog now, not some ugly moon creature. But it's got a bunch of problems he's working through.

for some reason when i click on the sort button it opens my library in a new tab, with the LT banner cut off and no sort box. when i close that tab, everything is normal in the original tab and the sort box is there.

Right. I saw this too. And then I couldn't reproduce it. Does it ALWAYS do it? A steps-to-reproduce is what we need to fix it.

Clicking "show all {pages of the library}" partially obscures the catalogue.

Explain that more?

42

Chris? That's your puppy.

This is misleading -- nothing is "removed" per se when you click on this link (I was worried for a moment that this might be some misplaced way of deleting the tag). Instead, this link seems to simply return you to the full catalog. Would not "return to catalog" be more clear here?

Well, you are IN your catalog. You're removing a search term. YOu'll see the same if you enter the catalog off an author, subject, etc.

I'm not saying it's good. I just don't know how to express it better. Anyone?

Like > 26 and others, I set 100 for the cover view, it works once and doesn't stick for subsequent pages. Not a browser issue, but I'm running FF 3.0.8 on Mac OS X 10.5.6

I notice a significant improvement in the speed of rendering 100 covers. In the past, such a request often bogged down, displaying half "default covers" when I have unique covers for nearly every book. Bravo for new servers and/or whatever other new technologies have launched.

The buttons along the top of the screen - List, Covers, Styles etc are no longer in a straight line but kind of higgledy-piggledy. E.g. in the Style section, D and the cog are raised above the others. The cog is no longer in its box. This is in FF3/XP Tablet. It looks fine in IE7, and looked ok in FF until about 15 mins ago.

Also, clicking on the Covers view in FF3 does nothing at all, but works in IE7. However it's been like that for months, so its not related to this change - I was just hoping it might fix itself with the new catalog.

It used to say Library, not remove. Remove means delete - not good.

I liked just (bracket)x(bracket). What do you think?

49

Chris?

Ok, higgledy-piggledy-ness disappeared as soon as I finished typing. Now looks fine.

>tim

"for some reason when i click on the sort button it opens my library in a new tab, with the LT banner cut off and no sort box. when i close that tab, everything is normal in the original tab and the sort box is there.

Right. I saw this too. And then I couldn't reproduce it. Does it ALWAYS do it? A steps-to-reproduce is what we need to fix it."

yeah, it's done it each time (except for possibly the first time, before you guys started fixing bugs, but i don't remember exactly). i've been fiddling with it repeatedly to see if i was doing something different, but it happens each time.

my default sort style is sorted by date started and sub sorted by rating. i've been trying various combos of the others, but it still happens each time. hope that helps any...

52> Covers is working fine for me in FF3.0.8 (XP)

>54 fabtk:

Probably in-between styles for a sec.

Clicking "show all {pages of the library}" partially obscures the catalogue.

I get this too.

Go to your catalog - look at the page numbers on the top right

"1 2 3 4 5 6 7 .... xx (show all)"

Select (show all)

The blue column heads "Author Title etc." are partially obscured if your page count wraps to 3 or more lines

(28 pages?)

When I go edit the display style Started and Stopped are still called date started and date read. I don't really care about it, but just letting you know.

re 55

interestingly enough, if i click on sort in that new tab, it doesn't open a 3rd tab, just opens the sort box.

38, 40 > Same here, FF3.0.8 XP

50> You're removing a search term.

This was clear after I clicked on it. My point is that I wasn't sure what it did until I tried it. I suspect that not everyone would click on a link called "remove" just to see what it does.

I'm not saying it's good. I just don't know how to express it better. Anyone?

"remove filter"?

>58 kevmalone:

Oh, blech. That's not good. We're stumped how to fix that. Stay tuned.

>"remove filter"?

I dunno. "Filter" is a real term-of-art.

FF3/Vista:
List style:
When I click "Show all" (as in show all pages), select a page, the icons in the List/covers/... bar are not aligned vertically and the top/down arrows of the sort icon are placed outside the icon.
Refreshing the page doesn't help. Clicking Home and back to Catalog shows a correct bar.
Clicking different display styles makes different icons higher then others (sometimes style A is higher, sometimes style B, ....)

Cover Style:
Same problem, but now all the time no alignment.
The show 100 ==> 40 problem is also here.

Clicking on sort opens an extra window where I can select sort options, but also opens a new tab with my catalog, but without the LT heading section.

The numbers for Members are not correct: They say there are 1 other members, when I am the only one. Except for 2 books, where the correct number 0 (zero) is displayed.

When I search for an item, the result is correctly displayed. There is an extra bar with Search: (remove). It took me 2 seconds to realize this would remove the search limit, not remove the results from my library. This used to be a (x), which is more logical to me.

The sorting tab/window popup problem is now gone. Kaput. Fixed.

this may not be a new problem since i don't remember ever trying it before, but when i set main sort to entry date and sub sort to, well, anything else, the sub sort doesn't work.

The numbers for Members are not correct: They say there are 1 other members, when I am the only one. Except for 2 books, where the correct number 0 (zero) is displayed.

It should be showing total members, not other members.

This used to be a (x), which is more logical to me

Me to. I'll change it now. Chris will pooh-pooh me.

>64 timspalding: "Filter" is a real term-of-art

true. How about "exit search" or maybe "remove search"

argh, I can see why in the past you opted for "x"

>66 conceptDawg:

sorry, chris, but it's still happening to me

62/64 How about just {x} ?

ETA as SilentInAWay says!!!

this may not be a new problem since i don't remember ever trying it before, but when i set main sort to entry date and sub sort to, well, anything else, the sub sort doesn't work.

It's sorting by the exact time you did it. It doesn't display the exact time, mostly for privacy reasons and because it would be boring, but it does maintain it, and effectively entry-date is sorting by the order. If two books were entered on the same second, the subsort would work.

>72 timspalding:

ahh, thanks tim. i had a nagging suspicion that was the problem after i sent that.

>62ff.

I've changed it to just "x"

Just noticed -- the Add Books page works again.

Original Language gets more horizontal space than most other columns, and it really doesn't need it.

way to go Chris!!! now sort/new tab is fixed for me!!

>73 leahbird:

I can't think of how to clarify it without showing too much information or adding a pedantic note. Meh.

Original Language gets more horizontal space than most other columns, and it really doesn't need it.

Hmm. Not for me. Can you look down your rows and see if there's some unusually long language-name or garbage there. Antidisestablishmentarianism-ese?

Windows XP/FF2

I have it open to my tag Caribbean 9 books. One book has French in blue, 3 books have English in green. In the view I have open now, I get 3cm for authors, 4cm for Primary language, and 5 cm for original language.

edited to add 4.5 cm for the icons, and all other collumns in this view 4 cm.

under power edit: misc powers, either the language used is wrong or the function doesn't work.

i know i have a couple of duplicate works (with different isbns) but it isn't showing anything. example, the secret garden should show up there as isbn #0141321067 and #0590433466.

eta: also, and this is really small and fiddly, when it returns no results it should say 0-0 of 0 instead of 1-0 of 0.

The floatover ToolTip for the "Power Edit" button that used to appear when in Power Edit (did it say "Back to Library"????) no longer appears

I believe that when I used the Tags tab in the past, I was presented with the list of tags along with links to tag cloud and author cloud. I don't see those links now.

82: I just added tooltips to all of the new buttons.

84> Yep I am now seeing an "Exit Power Edit" ToolTip - Thanks!

83: It might have. That page is soon going to be used for much more (hint: collections vs. tag management) so the new page is making way for that. You can still get to your tagclouds from your profile page top bar.

thanks, I look forward to the new version of the (collections) page :)

So, uh, can we have the speech bubbles representing our reviews less subtle? I wouldn't mind if it was regularly black and white and bright green for the books I've written reviews for me.

Maybe it's just me, but I like that particularly detail to jump out at me as I look through my library. That subtle gray doesn't "pop" like the old, bright green numbers used to.

86 > You should probably release collections immediately then, you know, to alleviate any confusion :)

On FF3/Vista there are lots of nasty red lines around most of the icons.

Sorry if this has been mentioned and I've missed it but ..

When I open my library all of the tool bar buttons (styles etc.) are nicely lined up and look pretty. Once I start clicking on them, they go all higgledy-piggledy up and down and it gets worse each time. Navigating away to 'Home' and back to catalogue sometimes fixes it, sometimes doesn't.

Browser = most recent Firefox

What os Klarusu?

That would be WindXP, sorry

Hello? Perhaps it should be a bigger issue. The icons 'book page' and 'details page' in library are too pale and small.

And I can still only see one item at a time in the library view.

And I can still only see one item at a time in the library view.

Huh? One row?

Chris added the sort button.

damn -- that was quick, cD

Bookel is the member that is using the low resolution/large font size and asked that we provide a way to disable the fixed powerbar. I told her that I'd look into that. I still plan on looking into a solution but just haven't had the time quite yet.

On my list though, as you can see I've not forgotten you. :)

Not sure if this is related to the new catalog, but show shared books in catalog doesn't seem to function.

p.s. : XP (service pack 3) / FF 3.0.8

Define "function"?

Incidentally, people, good night to me!

> 100: Well, I took a look at Bookel to see his/her problem - looked normal to me. That catalog says we share 4 books. Just for fun I asked catalog to show me those (that option above in catalog view), but instead I kept seeing his/her entire catalog. Went to his/her homepage after that and tried from there with same result.

On IE7/Vista:

I love the fact that sub-sort works for me now! Also, the annoying horizontal scroll-bar at the bottom is gone as well.

However, after I change 'sort' the selection I'm viewing is gone (for both tags and searches), although the url in the address bar is correct. I think this might be an old problem, though...

>99 Nicole_VanK:/102

I'm getting the same thing. It's as if the &compare= parameter is being ignored.

99: Fixed. I'll push it out in a few minutes.

Weird name for the 'Finished reading' column ... 'Stopped' ... very odd ...

106: We still haven't settled on a name for that column. There's a long discussion about it in one of the Collections/Currently Reading threads from last week. Tim likes "Stopped" and various other forms have been offered: "Closed", "Finished", etc.

The idea is that "finished" isn't always correct since sometimes you just stop reading a book for a while and what to convey that in the start/stop dates. Yada, yada, yada.

Ah, I missed the discussion ... will go and seek it out (as Tim's gone to bed, I feel free to disagree with him ;) )

The lovely new horizontal icons / tools on my catalog page look askew and line up poorly (FF 3.0.8 on Mac OS X 10.5.6), but I feel pretty confident that they will end nice and neat as shown in the "after" shot on the blog.

I decided to check it out in Safari 3.2.1 (same mac), and it looks very nice -- as advertised. But, I needed to log in to LT, and doing so left me in the top (logo / title bar) frame, with an an incomplete login form (I was able to select text and move downward in order to complete the login). It might be too challenging for many users to log in this way.

carport: I have the exact same versions of FF and OSX that you do and I can't reproduce your problems with the powerbar buttons. I believe you...just can't reproduce them.

Also can't reproduce the Safari problem that you mentioned. I can log in/out of LT without problems. Can you explain how you got to that point?

> 92, 109

Same powerbar higgledy-piggledyness here when I change catalog pages (here are some screenshots for you :).

Vista home basic; FF 3.0.8

I don't know if this is a bug, or just a change, but I prefer the previous way.

The column headings are back, but they disappear when you scroll down. They used to stay at the top so you would see them for each line/book.

>111 jjlong: I can replicate this too: XP/FF3. It appears entirely random though.

The tabs on poweredit also disappear under the navigation bar.

> 110

Chris, I posted a screenshot of my FF view here:
http://picasaweb.google.com/carport/Screenshots#5325247219505615010

like I said, it looks exactly as advertised in Safari.

I don't use Safari, so was not logged in to LT and probably had no cookies. The button on my browser bar goes to http://www.librarything.com/catalog/carport

since I wasn't logged in, I logged in from the upper right hand of the page "sign in/join" link. I just logged out and tried it again -- the link takes me to www.librarything.com to sign in, but within the top frame, instead of to a new page.

I'll try it in firefox after I post this, and if it behaves the same way, I'll edit this and add that info. ETA: same issue in firefox, goes to home page, but stays in top frame instead of new page.

ETA: 45 minutes later, I'm beginning to notice that some of the time, the new icons display correctly in Firefox. I'm trying to reproduce the discrepancies, but can't find anything consistent. Will try on a different system later.

I posted about this in the other thread before reading this one, because I didn't think it was the kind of thing that would get resolved instantly.

The idea is that "finished" isn't always correct since sometimes you just stop reading a book for a while and what to convey that in the start/stop dates.

So, the other side is that sometimes you actually do complete a book and "stopped" doesn't convey that. "I stopped reading this book" has a specific meaning that doesn't include completion.

I'd also argue that it's actually a bad thing to record "stopped" dates in the same field as "completed" dates, because then we can't get as much useful information from the field. Which books do people tend to read in the shortest and longest time? We could get interesting data like that if we looked at started dates and completion dates, but once we've thrown stopped dates into the same box, the data is a lot less meaningful.

The wheel cog button next to catalog styles seems to be shifted down a pixel or three, is it intenional?

see: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/860041/lt.png

Opera 9.63 on kubuntu 8.04

The "permanent link" link at the bottom of the catalog links me to an empty page.

FF3/WinXP

I'm one of those who sorted by copy number often, and now it's much slower--click on sort button, scroll down one then another column checking what you want is on and what you don't want off, oops, is that "up" or "down" I'm looking for? Should they match on both "sort" or "subsort"? Can I turn "subsort" off? Do the choices stick until the next time I click on the sort button? etc.

Since you preserved sorting by column titles for Author, Title etc.,--and point out as much in the lightbox--could you not keep it for shared copies too?

Dislike "Stopped".

Switching from cover view to list and back and forth sometimes rearranges buttons--I guess that's what others described as "higgledy-piggledy".

And yeah, sorting shared books in any way doesn't work, it reverts to full catalogue view.

A few things:

- Clicking "show all" on the library pages gets rid of the column headers, and I can't figure out how to get them back without reloading.

- Using the spacebar to page-down actually goes a page-and-then-some down (the "and-then-some" is about the width of the header, so maybe it's going one page down based on the whole thing, but only the bottom part is displayed? Does that even make sense?) (Safari 3.2.1 on Mac 10.5.5)

- Another vote for making the "I've reviewed this" speech bubble more visible. It really just disappears into the background for me. Same for the edit views cog and to some extent the book detail icons, but I don't use these as much, so it's less of an annoyance.

- Still not a fan of "Stopped." Means something very different to me than "Read."

> 92, 109, 111

I get the same thing, mostly when I change the style I'm using. I also get a similar problem with the Search bit on the Cover view - the 'Titles/authors' button goes wonky when I change pages. I don't know how to post a picture, sorry! Refreshing fixes the problem, at least so far...

I'm using FF 3.0.8, on Windows XP.

Dumb question: where is this 'stopped' that everyone's getting so hot & bothered about? (Doesn't bother me)

v

>121 vaneska: The field that used to be "Date Read" is now "Date Stopped". If you don't use the date fields, it's not likely to bother. :)

122: Ah yes, thanks. (Still not bothered)

v

A bug report regarding formatting on a book's review page: http://www.librarything.com/topic/62631

Only 'Private comments' is editable in 'Power edit' mode, i.e. by double-clicking on it.

To me this is a feature--I like being able to edit this field without doing the expensive (time- and load-wise) switch between the regular view and the 'Power edit' view--but it could be a bug. In any case, double clicking doesn't affect the final state of the html checkbox.

Browser FF3.0.8 Linux

I have just one comment. The icons on the right are too faint, especially the index card. FF3 on XP.

ETA: Before commenting on Stopped vs. Finished, please read the other thread. In particular though, Tim has said that another field is not an option at this time.

When I switched display styles this happened:



FF 3.0.8, OSX 10.5.6

Seeing the same as eromsted in 127, but only for the Print button. The rest of buttons display correctly.

FF 3.08/Ubuntu 8.10

FF 3.0.1/Vista

Like others the 'Power Edit' button does not line up and the 'print' icon is not on the print button, When I hit the refresh button other buttons will get messed up on the catalog.

Otherwise I'm liking this.

Everything appears to work as expected for me (FF 3.0.8), but I wanted to agree with the previous posters on the review bubble. The differentiation between books I have and have not reviewed should be greater to make coloring the bubble worthwhile at all.

Whoops, spoke too soon. If I click on Covers or Organize and then back to List view, that button panel falls out of sync - the Power Edit and Print buttons are lower than the rest of the panel, and the Sort button losses its icon. Reloading the page fixes it again (FF 3.0.8 with Vista).

On closer inspection, might not all the 'higgly-wiggly' be because the sort icon and the print icon are not actually ON the buttons they represent?

The new baby pink/baby blue box appears to be a bit too short. The "X" (delete book) and the number of reviews end up outside the box (the icon for reviews end up just inside the box.

When I view other peoples libraries it is fine - probably because members and reviews are stacked.

IE7 & XPsp3

I get the same misaligned buttons as in msg #127. Also when I had to sign in I couldn't see the password text field, looks like that frame was too small in height -- only the user name field was visible.

FF 3.0.8, Windows 7 Beta

I'm seeing the misaligned buttons, too. Pretty badly misaligned, actually.

Also, a bug I don't think I've seen mentioned here yet: I assume that when I click on the "show" button on the cover view, it's supposed to give me the option to change the number of covers shown to something other than 40, but at the moment it does nothing at all.

I'm using Firefox 3.0.8 on Windows XP.

(Also, while I'm complaining, count me among those who really dislike "stopped" as a column title. Especially as I like to keep a list of books read in each year, sorted by date read, that I can link people to, and it's not going to be at all clear to folks coming from outside LT what the heck that "stopped" field is.)

I am now at work on mac OSX with Safari 3.2.1

When I click on the sort button, I get everything OK. If I click cancel it goes back to the catalog, but the scroll bar on the right is gone. I only have the one screen and no way to navigate. I have to go out of the catalog and back in to get the scroll bars to reappear.

Not sure but I think* this may be related: On my change-cover page, on a book with only one member-uploaded covers and no amazon-covers, I can't change the cover (from blank to the member-uploaded). The jscript popup to confirm doesn't come up.

http://www.librarything.com/work/4945651/covers/42439628
Cover changes elsewhere have worked for me.

* only because tim said there was some related cover page work going on .....

Add my vote to the chorus of "the contrast between reviewed and un-reviewed is TOO subtle". Bright green may be overdoing it, but I think the contrast could stand to be increased.

(Note: I haven't read this thread. Not good at it right now.)

A tag search also brings up results that aren't from tags, but (in the example I'm seeing) from a review. All right, now I'm sure. Whatever you set the search to search on, it's still an "all fields" search. This makes searching for reviews impossible, and having a private library, I can't get at them from my profile either...

And... oh dear. Way too few books in another tag search. But when I click on the tag, there they all are. That kind of behaviour will make wildcard and comment searching unreliable. Perhaps I should re-index again?
ETA: re-indexing fixed this.

(I didn't know where to put this, but it's complaint-y so I'll put it in the bug thread. It may be a bug, but not a new one; it's only related to the new catalogue in an "ah, now I can... but I still can't..." sort of way.)

Subsorting now works for me. That's great. You could make me really happy with it by changing the behaviour of the summary field back to the way it used to be (the last time I'm certain of is around the time private comments were introduced), so that it sorts by what is actually in it rather than by the autogenerated green text I can apparently kill, but not prevent from haunting my catalogue.

Also, it would be nice if we could sort by private comments. I'm trying to clean up my "comments" field and move personal-ish comments of little interest to anyone but me, my family, and my stalkers, to "private comments", and vice-versa. Which task is helped immeasurably by being able to sort by "comments", but not helped by not being able to sort by "private comments".

I pretty much set things the way I like them and then leave them alone, so just looking at my Catalog now without trying to change anything - it looks fine.

But I am also having a problem with screen resolution and the missing scrollbar at the bottom of the screen.
I am using screen resolution of 800 x 600 (old and wear progressive lenses, sorry that's how it is). The screen cuts off on the right edge and no way to view all the tabs or complete toolbar now. On the tabs Zeigeist is the last one visible, Tools is not showing. On the grey toolbar below where it is supposed to say Titles/Authors all I get is Ti. There used to be a scrollbar at the bottom to be able to deal with this (or maybe it just used to all fit on the page). Works ok at resolution 1024 x 768 except everything is too small for me to read.

Example: http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee174/OsideNative/LT/LT2009-04-16917.jpg

This is a little nit-picky but it confused me so I will throw it out there.

I use the "tags" tab frequently (I was one of the ones lobbying to keep it way back when). When I click on the "tags" tab it takes me to the - "My Library" --> "Organization" screen - I realize this is correct (both get you to the same place). HOWEVER - the "My Library" tab is the one that gets high-lighted, even though I got there from the "Tags" tab. Since the first time I went there I was already in "My Library" --> "Organization" it appeared that nothing happened. So I ended up clicking it a few times.

I'm good with being able to get to the same page (tag list) from both directions but I think the tab high-light should change based on which tab I clicked to get there. (I would also like to be able to navigate to "tag cloud" and "tag mirror" from the "tag tab" - so that all "tag" things are together, but that is a different request.)

141: It certainly would be. As would being able to search comments and private comments separately from each other.

>126 jjwilson61: I've read the other thread, thanks. But Tim's decision as stated in that thread isn't reflected in the catalogue we're seeing today.

I know they've said that another field isn't an option right now, but I'd argue that the answer is to wait until another field is an option rather than starting to use the currently-existing field for two separate things.

Overall, I like the looks of the new catalog, but I have a small problem. Well over half my books are showing nothing in the holdings/reviews field. For example, the first book in my catalog (sorted by entry date) is "Mark of the Lion". I see nothing in the blue box under the tools. But, if I click thru to the book record, I see there are 78 people who own the book and 9 reviews.

XP, IE6 (I'm not where I can check how it looks with FF3).

I think my issue is the same as #146 dulcibelle's, but it is well more than 50% that have nothing in the field where members/reviews appear. This has been worsening throughout the day and less and less of my books show this data now.

XP, IE6 as well.

>146 dulcibelle:
Your catalog was extremely odd (only an "X" instead of the tools), but it now views OK - almost like code was pushed in the last 5 minutes. I can see stuff in the blue box OK.
FF3/XP

Add'l info re. my post in #147. The members/reviews data works properly when I am in Style B which shows covers. In Style A which does not, the data is largely absent.

Same here - Style B (with covers) shows everything just fine. So does Style C (also with covers). Styles A, D, and E (no covers) all have the members/review data missing.

Everything looks great in XP/Vista-IE7!

Ok, guess this is a bug and belongs in this thread instead of the other.

In the other thread I put:
I do not like how much "real estate" is taken up at the top. The top book is partially eaten and I can't scroll it to view.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3557/3448154658_63525f9ef3_o.jpg
Top book eaten above. I have the full name for that book, not just Briggs, and other information is eaten. That is scrolled as far up as it can go.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3547/3448165836_bec8062b74_o.jpg

I'm using Mozilla Firefox. I can't seem to see version number. I'm on an XP .

>152 MikeBriggs: - I also replied in the other thread.
To see version# in FF go to Help/About Firefox.
If you are using FF2 there may be earlier posts about this issue

152: That's obviously not how the power bar is supposed to be rendered. Your browser isn't getting the correct styling sent to it. Reply with the version number of Firefox that you are using. See msg 153 for how to get that.

When I view my catalogue with the Opera linux browser, the titles of the columns are no longer shown.
It does work with firefox, but everything seems much more sluggish. I have a 5 year old pc and suddenly it seems just too slow.
I liked things better as they were a few days ago...

btw not seeing the titles of the columns renders the whole catalogue useless. For example I cannot sort any longer (strangely enough I have had to press the "sort" title twice for some time - pressing only once shows me only books entered up to 2007, only a second click shows the newly enterd books - pressing the sort button is not allowed to do twice, so I cannot see my newly entered books any longer).

>154 conceptDawg:: 2.0.0.18

It is a work computer and I can't update, add, or remove anything on the computer (as in update Firefox).

Opera version information:
Version 9.64 Build 2480
Platform Linux System i686, 2.6.27.21-0.1-default
Qt library 3.3.8b
Java Java Runtime Environment installed
Browser identification Opera/9.64 (X11; Linux i686; U; en) Presto/2.1.1 - SuSE Linux 11.1 - KDE

When I put my cursor over a blue field so it says "double click", only the area around the words "double click" turns salmon-ish, not the entire field, like the white ones do. (XP, IE7)

Clicking Title/authors to get to the options for search does not work in Opera for Linux any longer, either. That is too bad as I completely rely on the opera browser.

I was looking at someone else's library and I tried to sort it using the sort button (which I'm starting to really like, btw) but instead of sorting that library, it sorted and showed mine. The address bar still said I was looking at their library, though.

I'm on XP/ff3, if it matters.

mikebriggs: I'll check it out. You should be getting the correct styling but the lines have gotten crossed SOMEwhere.

cnrenner: It's a styling issue for you too. We just need to send Opera a different style for one of the elements. I'll take a look at it but, honestly, it's at the bottom of my list today. Opera is currently holding ground at 0.3% of our membership. Yeah, that's LESS than 1 percent. Obviously it gets less attention than...well....just about every other browser. You might be the only person using it (not really, but probably pretty close). :)

conceptDawg: thanks. I did not know Opera was used so little, but it is my one and only browser and has been for quite a time. With my hardware/software it is the browser with the quickesz rendering - especially with regard to the NEW library interface. I just tried out firefox and it is incredibly sluggish with the new interface, especially when scrolling.
BTW even 0.3% of the membership should definitely be more than just me - if I calculate correctly :-)

The misaligned buttons I pictured in 127 seem fixed when switching between display styles, but I get the following frequently with the search box:



Also I'm having problems when coming back from the new sort pop-up. The misalignment rears its head again and I loose my search information.

Before sort:


After Sort:


FF 3.0.8, OSX 10.5.6

I can't do screenshots, but my buttons are worse than before ... now they alternate (1 up, 1 down)

Whoops. I spoke too soon about it being fixed when switching styles. I'm seeing misalignment there again. I reload the catalog and it looks fine, but if I start clicking through the styles it goes off.

I agree with above that the gear, the book, and the index card could use more contrast; as well as the my review/other review, etc.

It would be good to have a column header for members/reviews for quick sorting. The menu is there true, but it takes more mental time and clicks.

The interface changes are nice otherwise. :)

The "no tags" problem at 27/29/34 is now resolved for me

I'm trying to track down the problem with the permalink mentioned in 117. I can't reproduce the empty page result. I do note that the permalink is not working correctly though so it's still on the list.

hhmm, maybe Tim's sprites are really boggarts in disguise!

I can't reproduce any of the wonky button misplacement. And believe me, I've tried.

4 operating systems, 13 different browsers, and nothing to show for it on my side. I'm thinking that it could be a browser caching problem. Can somebody with the problem empty your cache and then check it?

I fixed the problem of private comments being editable in power edit mode. This was a bug, not a feature. :)

it worked for the reload then started going wonky again. using the Refresh button REALLY makes it bad.

FF 3/vista

171> I clear cache, cookies, everything when I exit Firefox. But I just now cleared everything again. I still have that same issue pictured in message 152.

#171 cDawg - cleared cache and cookies and re-logged into LT and buttons are fine. As soon as I start clicking on them, they go wonky. Repeated the procedure several times with same result. Seems as long as I clear cache etc. and don't actually intend to use the buttons, I'm OK (kind of like supermodels vs me - pretty but useless or wonky and functional ... )

Clicking links on the author page, Common Knowledge section, brings up blank pages for those connections. Ditto for Common Knowledge sections on works pages that have been connecting to the lists that similar to those from author pages (as mentioned above). Links on the work page, Common Knowledge section, that connect to other web pages (awards, series, etc) appear okay.

Otherwise, very nice. Clean, crisp. Thanks.

I'm having a difficult time lately searching by authors in 'My Library.' I'll do a search for Winchester and get 2/3 of the books. Ditto for Wallace.

Just wondering if I've messed it up or if it is a bug.

I haven't been following this thread, so I may have missed it when I scanned down, but the number of members with a work is wrong - it is the number for the record below. If I edit a style it's fixed, but if I change to a different style and then go back to the first one it's broken again. It's like:
book A - #B
book B - #C
book C - #D etc.

winxp, IE6.0

eta And in some styles the numbers are above the pink box, in others below, except for one style where the pink boxes, blue boxes, and numbers are totally misalligned.

'Sort' is working erratically for me now. If I sort by :

Primary: Date Read > Down (assuming it should return most recent date first)
Subsort: Entry Date > Down (assuming it should return most recent date first)

It actually orders my library with Entry date correctly sorted from most recent to oldest but the Date Read sort is the opposite (shifting all the date reads to the end).

This was working fine up until a little while ago ... I'm confused.

Just to add to the above:

If I change to Date Read > Up but leave entry date the same it returns the correct order.

I don't know if this is related, but Entry Date and Date Read have been default sorting in opposite directions for months now. Clicking on "Recently Added" on the homepage actually shows least-recently added.

Not a "bug" per se, and I honestly don't think it's new (I'm pretty sure I remember it from before), but....

Why is it that going to my Tags page highlights the "Library" button instead of the "Tags" button? It doesn't makes sense. Even if I actually click on the Tags button to get there, it still highlights the Library one instead.

>171 conceptDawg:

Cleared cache. Took me a little while to find where they'd hidden it under clear private data. No change. Restarted the computer. No change. Initially it loads correctly, but if I click any of the buttons it goes, as klarusu put it up top, "higgledy-piggledy."

FF 3.0.8; OSX 10.5.6; 2.1 GHz MacBook.

Works fine in Safari 3.2.1 on the same machine.

I tried it on an older computer (FF 3.0.8; OSX 10.4.11; 400MHz PowerBook G4) and it worked fine.

Frustrating. If any other data would be useful, let me know.

181: Yes! I keep forgetting to post about it. :)

FF (not sure which version), Vista; when I look at my catalog in 'list' view, the icons are all lined up properly, except for the 'search by' box, which looks like the image in message 127 (Titles/author is slightly higher than search). Also, when I click on titles/author, the drop-down doesn't appear. When I switch to tag view, the 'search by' box is lined up properly with the other icons, and it works correctly.

41, 50> Yes, I have three rows of pages and it covers up the column headings. Didn't it use to shove the headers down?

49, etc> I get the broken top bar a lot. Changing styles, clicking on a tag to filter, going to Next or Previous page - not every time, and not reproducibly (that is, changing to a particular style will one time produce the broken bar and the next time produce a good one), but approximately every other time ((almost) every change either fixes the broken bar or breaks a good one). Also what's broken varies - sometimes the style bar drops about a third of its height, leaving Style E up where the whole bar should be and showing an extension on the side as if there were another style supposed to be there (while the cog shows as in a separate button); sometimes the same for the Print button; sometimes the Search dropdown; sometimes Sort (and then the double arrows are overlapping the edges between the sprocket (cog) and the Sort button); etc. Always one or more buttons left up in the air and the rest of that bar dropped down, but which button is variable. And at least once there were two broken - E and the search dropdown. A lot of comments about this, many with screenshots showing what I've described here, but I'm going to leave my comment anyway. Another point I don't think I've seen anyone mention - when the style I'm in is the one that's misaligned, it doesn't get highlighted. That is, if E is up and the rest of the bar is down and I'm in style E, there's no highlight on the style bar. If E is up and I'm in style C, C is highlighted. Does that give you any hints, Chris?

This is a minor color complaint. The bar with the number of pages/Next Page/links to pages is exactly the color of the browser warning bar on my monitor - to the point where I've twice gone to right-click it and make it go away (by allowing Javascript, blocking a popup, or whatever it's complaining about this time). Maybe just a touch paler? Does it actually need to be a different color from the catalog background?

And a minor space complaint - does there really need to be that narrow strip of white below the tabs and above the top bar? It makes the tabs look more connected, I guess, but I'd be just as happy if the bar ran right under the tabs. It's a tiny little space but it doesn't seem to be particularly useful and a little more vertical space can't hurt.

There seems to be a little extra space between the pencil and the red X in the icon bar - but that space comes up with the tooltip for Delete this item. I haven't tried clicking - don't really want to delete a book.

Given that the only sort available for the icon column is Shared (there's no sorting by number of reviews), would it be possible to put a column header on that column to allow a quick sort? Then the question arises as to what word to put there...Sort, maybe, or just up/down arrows? Like many others, I frequently sort by Shared, and while I absolutely love the Sort button (I can actually _set_ the subsort! and the direction!) it does take more clicking and scrolling than clicking the column header. (agree with 167)

FF3.0.8/WinXP Pro

Oh, and old bug still present: I did a search and a minor edit on a book, then clicked the X on the filter to go back to my full library (and BTW, Tim, the X makes perfect sense to me and always did). The top bar was broken, so I did an F5 refresh to see if that would help - it didn't, it was still broken, and I was back to the search results (one book). Did F5 again, fixed the top bar but still on the search results. Clicked the X again and back to my full library, with the broken top bar (differently broken, BTW). An F5 refresh after dismissing a filter will bring the filter back - this has been true for a while.

ETA comment about highlighted broken button

Very minor, but the color change when you are mousing over the new buttons in the library, it changes to a terrible mustard yellow.

And for the review Icon maybe you can make the inside of the bubble a deeper royal blue for those that have a review for the book. Still too light and very similar to the one with no review.

With regard to the misaligned buttons:
- Things look fine in Internet Explorer 7.0.6001
- But the buttons are misaligned in Firefox 3.0.8
Both on Vista.

When will there be a United Nations decision on browser standards...

Maybe I'm completely off mark, but the stuff with the misaligned buttons &c. has very much the flavour of a race condition.

Maybe related: In IE6 I sometimes, but not always, after a simple reload get misaligned member and review counts (too high up and too far left) and it recovers when I hover my mouse over one of the fields you can double click to edit.

same as #177: I'm having a difficult time lately searching by authors in 'My Library.' I'll do a search for Winchester and get 2/3 of the books. Ditto for Wallace.

My Library/Catalog seems to load and display fine. But whenever I search (by any of the fields in the drop-down), the results aren't accurate.

For example:
Search for author "demille" and get 6 books; I have 10 in my library.

Search by tag "2009" and get 0 results, I've tagged 25 in my library.

When I resorted my library using the new 'sort' button, it bounced me to the first page of my library, rather than leaving me on the page where I was. Is this new, or did it always do this? For me personally, if I am in the middle of my library and I want to look at it sorted differently, I don't want LT to assume I want to be back on page 1 and bounce me there.

Goggles at 142's pic.

There's supposed to be buttons to the right of the search box next to the Print button?!?!?
I don't have anything, nothing, it stops at the search box (no edge on the right side either so may not be complete), and scrolling to the right does nothing but take me to the right of my library since it is too wide to show all in the one screen. How I hate fixed frames...
I don't need the Print button, so can that be on the far right (I guess some people do want it?).

192> It looks like it takes a minimum screen width of 900 pixels (browser borders included) to show all the buttons on the catalog bar. Surely no one's still below 1024x768 in this day and age?

193: Netbooks? Mobile Phones? Poor vision?

191: This puzzled me as well. It used to be possible to keep looking at the same set of books (the ones tagged "fiction", for instance), and sort them by tags, or publication date, or author. The new system requires you to set sort order first, and then to do a search, or click on a tag, or enter your catalogue from an author page, or whatever. I think I could live with this, as I rarely change my sort order, but if you want to change it a few times for a subset of books it is extremely annoying.

195: Uhoh. That will drive me nuts very quickly...

>195 235711:

This was always a problem (for me at least) in covers view. When I changed the sort I lost my search filter. It seems that the new sort in list view has duplicated the problem. However, you can still sort as always by column header. Except that the shared users numbers are in an unsortable toolpad instead of a sortable column.

The logged out home page has two header bars, one fixed and one moving. Guessing this is the result of some new catalog code, but could be some other wonkiness.

>>195 235711: This must be some sort of an unintended bug. We can still sort a subset of books from the column head as before.

First, apologies for not being on today. I have been in accounting Hell. Tonight, I get to code again.

I'm going to take it easy on replying, as Chris has already been through this and, I presume, hit many bugs. I don't want to be jumping at shadows. I'll reply mostly to larger issues.

I'm one of those who sorted by copy number often ... Since you preserved sorting by column titles for Author, Title etc.,--and point out as much in the lightbox--could you not keep it for shared copies too?

The problem is that "shared" column was also the "here's a bunch of things you can do" column. It was a mix of data and functionality that I think made things hard to understand, particularly for newbies. As I said, many users found sort confusing, and even frequent users didn't know about subsorting. The sort button gives those people an entre into what you can actually do. It also allows you to sort by fields that you aren't actually showing. The only thing "taken away" is on-screen sorting by number of members. To add it back would again put a false title over the "toolpad" column, and I'm not going to do it.

Dislike "Stopped".

Suggest alternative.

Contrast on reviewed and un-reviewed

I'll work up another version.

Subsorting now works for me. That's great. You could make me really happy with it by changing the behaviour of the summary field back to the way it used to be (the last time I'm certain of is around the time private comments were introduced), so that it sorts by what is actually in it rather than by the autogenerated green text I can apparently kill, but not prevent from haunting my catalogue.

The green text is your title and your author. That's the feature. It's not haunting your catalog. It is your catalog.

sort by "private comments"

The problem here is that it's fairly easy to prevent display of private comments. It's much harder for it to prevent people from sorting by a field, if sorting is allowed. So we could make it sortable, but you'll be able to sort other member's catalogs privately—or at least go from your catalog, sorted that way, to others. It's a little fiddly ball of annoyingness.

I am using screen resolution of 800 x 600 (old and wear progressive lenses, sorry that's how it is).

Sorry. We're not going to be able to help you much. 800x600 is now 3.35% of visits, and only 2.72% of member visits. Our main competitor has been 950 from the start. Before the change, 800x600 wasn't fully okay. It's not okay now either. Ultimately, if you're going to use 800x600, you're going to see layout problems.

I use the "tags" tab frequently (I was one of the ones lobbying to keep it way back when). When I click on the "tags" tab it takes me to the - "My Library" --> "Organization" screen - I realize this is correct (both get you to the same place). HOWEVER - the "My Library" tab is the one that gets high-lighted, even though I got there from the "Tags" tab. Since the first time I went there I was already in "My Library" --> "Organization" it appeared that nothing happened. So I ended up clicking it a few times.

The tags tab is going away. People are going to complain, but we aren't going to keep it around when we add collections. It already made no sense and was hurting the UI. The more true now.

I see nothing in the blue box under the tools.

You see zero, or you see nothing?

I'm going to have to talk to Chris before I fix anything. Chris?

*this is a repost. i know that no one has touched on it yet and it still isn't working. this way you don't need to weed through the million posts to find it.*

under power edit: misc powers, either the language used is wrong or the function doesn't work, as it's showing i have no duplicates.

i know i have a couple of duplicate works (with different isbns) but it isn't showing anything. example, the secret garden should show up there as isbn #0141321067 and #0590433466.

also, and this is really small and fiddly, when it returns no results it should say 0-0 of 0 instead of 1-0 of 0.

oh and GREAT WORK!! we all appreciate the amazing effort you guys put forward. i've never had so much fun "bug-hunting" in all my life, and it's all down to the sense of community and pride we all feel about LT!

Hmm. I like the new search box in catalog view; the old one was truncated in a very annoying fashion. However, (doncha love "however") I just did a search of my library the Search box with "Tags" selected in the drop-down menu. I wanted stuff tagged "art;" what I got was anything with "art" in any field.

FF 3.0.8 on OSX 10.5.6.

> 111

I get the same powerbar higgledy-piggledy on FF 3.0.6/Vista - not on IE/Vista, though.

i hadn't had any of the toolbar problems that everyone else seems to be experiencing until just now. i went to check that cover view: show per page was working correctly (which it is!) and when i went back to my library, the toolbar was wonky.

i thought it might help to know as this might be setting it off somehow. ff3/vista

Dislike "Stopped".

Suggest alternative.

"Finished" - goes with Started. "Ended" would be okay. Hell, if we're being old school, I liked "Read" perfectly fine. But the date I finished reading a book and the date I stopped reading a book are two separate things (and two separate sets of books), and the new label on the old field conflates them.

The problem with leaving the "members" header off the column is that there's no way to sort a subset of items by member.

Currently, the sort menu refreshes to show the whole library instead of sorting the displayed items.

Small thing that bothers me- the alt text that shows when hovering over the tool icons. As in-
book page
detail page
edit book
Wouldn't it make more sense to have 'work page' instead of 'book page' since this is where you land? To me, 'book page' means MY book, which is 'detail page'.

Clicking links on the author page, Common Knowledge section, brings up blank pages for those connections. Ditto for Common Knowledge sections on works pages that have been connecting to the lists that similar to those from author pages (as mentioned above). Links on the work page, Common Knowledge section, that connect to other web pages (awards, series, etc) appear okay.

Can someone explain this to me?

book page

Okay. It was intentional. "Work" is an LT term of art that many misunderstand. But, yeah, it's wrong here.

207> But the date I finished reading a book and the date I stopped reading a book are two separate things (and two separate sets of books), and the new label on the old field conflates them.

But that's the whole point. The field has to stand in for both the date you finished a book and the date that you may have decided to give up on the book.

I agree that is less than ideal for purposes of using the data in the future and the solution I prefer instead of making it two dates, is to add a field for why you stopped reading the books. Values could be Finished, Boring, Returned-To-Library, Lost, Destroyed-in-a-fire.

Stopped goes with Started and is fairly generic so it goes with whatever reason for stopping. But I think I prefer Begun and Ended as Ended seems more final that Stopped.

You can never represent reality in software. If you add "date stopped" then I object that I didn't STOP reading a particular reference book—there was a period I was using it; now I'm not. Etc. etc. At some level the software feature is meatware. The software lives in the user and some minimal way for them to tie the meat to the software—tags, for example.

Oh, pfew! He mentioned it to me. No passing the buck back!

I also have misaligned buttons.

The bar with "sort" and "power edit" is slightly below the other bars. And the "print" button is on the same level as the others, but it overlaps the "power edit" button.

(Mac OSX (10.4.11) Firefox 3.0.8)

Chris: Have you tried being other people? Something is just wrong here. We can't replicate the problems people are seeing—identical browsers, identical machines. Maybe it's something simple. Incidentally, make sure the zen-garden CSS isn't allowed on the catalog?

There are so many threads here. Anyone seeing problems where "next page" resets something?

I logged in as lilithcat and it didn't go wonky. Looked just fine. Clicked on every button at least once. Starting to go crazy.

I don't think Stopped is generic. "I stopped reading that book" means "I gave up without finishing it."

I consider Ended or End more generic because it's not used as much to describe a reading state, but it's still fairly clear what it means.

My personal preference would be Finished, since I think more people use the field for that than for recording when they stopped reading a book.

But when it comes to intuitiveness, I don't think you can beat Date Read. If someone clicked on a user's preferred display style and saw "stopped" or "end", I'm not sure it's entirely clear what it's referring to. The more generic you try to make it, the less clear it is to the average user.

>219 conceptDawg:

I'm putting you on a plane, with a doctors bag.

OK, clicking on my E view makes the Sort and Power Edit move down a little, and next page doesn't change it. But Power Edit puts everything back perfectly, until I click it again to get out of Power Edit mode then it goes back to being crooked.

FF3/XP

ETA: Is there anyone out in the real world where the buttons line up all the time? Maybe it's the lab environment that's different. Are you getting your code from the same server(s) as the rest of us?

Ok..I'm resorting to the crazy now. Since I can't reproduce it on any browsers or OS combinations that I have then I must delve into the darkness. I'm asking for volunteers...

Somebody that is seeing the wonky button problems and can repeat it, and will let me do screen-sharing with them via (preferably) iChat in Leopard or (possible too) VNC in Windows. Firefox users only. And your computer needs to be accessible from the outside world, but I can probably help with that if need be.

If you are willing to volunteer send me a message and I'll give you my iChat handle (not that it takes a rocket scientist to deduce it for yourself) and we can figure this stuff out.

You get a front row seat to my exciting debugging process and some witty banter. Plus, we'll send you a cuecat or LibraryThing T-shirt for your troubles. Maybe Tim will even come and do your laundry.

#222, I hesitate to mention this, but mine do - after the major problem last night of them stacking down. Once they fixed it, my buttons stay where they were put, and line up fine.

ETA:
FF2.XX XP

Wow. That's a new level of desperation.

Chris, we should also ask all LT staff to look at it. That's ten computers, or so. Only a few have done so officially.

I can also go down to Kinkos or wherever. And the library. The library used to be my salvation. Other people complain about old machines. For me, it was the only way to test old browsers... :)

Chris: Did you try the non-mimizing, separate scripts solution? That's a single boolean. You could just add a user to that list, and see if it fixed it.

If you don't get takers straight away (and I'm pretty sure that you will), I'll be home in about two hours and mi casa etc

When I change styles in my library, the next screen shows the buttons out of alignment. But if I click on "Organize" from that screen, view the tags, and then click "Your books" from the tags page, I am returned to my library and the buttons realign. (Firefox 3.0.8) and Windows Vista Home Premium)

I know you're working on it, but will you please make the bubbles for books I've reviewed and not reviewed different colors? Thanks.

I have the oft-reported higgledy-piggledy bug. Firefox 3.0.6 on WinXP Pro.

Chris, if you still need help debugging after I wake up, leave a comment on my profile and I'll hook you up with my private info and try to help.

Whoa I'm sorry my crappy html skillz broke the display for a minute there. Screenshot is at

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(edited partly because I can't spell)

> One reason people might think they see higgledy-piggledy is that the little boxes actually are different sizes

That's a problem. They are for us.

For the record, I am going to sleep. (I feel like I need to check in all the time now...)

>223 conceptDawg:

chris, if you still need a volunteer (and can walk me through all that stuff because i'm a bit of a tech retard) i'm willing to help.

i hadn't had the wonky toolbar thing until today, but now it's happening fairly frequently.

eta: except that now that i offered, i can't get it to happen again.... this is fishy

Got a wonky button too now in FF 3: I zoomed in which misaligned the Print button. Then I reset the zoom and the print button stayed misaligned.

I'm going to move the wonky buttons discussion to a new thread. Let's all continue the discussion there and reserve this thread for other new-catalog-related bugs.

New PowerBar thread:
http://www.librarything.com/topic/62704

Scrolling is a bit slow now.

Also, the numerical link to the first page of your catalogue doesn't show as "visited" if you use the prev/next buttons to navigate.

I am reposting this (once!) because it still happens and hasn't been mentioned as far as I can tell, so in case my first post got lost in the shuffle:

I sort to sort someone else's library using the sort button (which I'm starting to really like, otherwise) but instead of sorting that library, it sorted and showed mine. The address bar still said I was looking at their library, though.

I'm on XP/ff3, if it matters.

>190 detailmuse: yay my catalog searches have complete results now but

like >204 PhaedraB: it appears the drop-down doesn't limit the search to particular fields, it searches all fields no matter what is selected.

>139 235711:
Same problem with search. I search by title/author, but retrieve results as if all fields (including private comments) were being searched. Re-indexing did not cure.

FF 2.0.0.20/XP

The green text is your title and your author. That's the feature. It's not haunting your catalog. It is your catalog.

I'm not sure we understand each other.

What I mean is that even when I delete the green text and put in something completely different, like book/shelf size, Summary still sorts by the green text (which is no longer there, or at least is not visible to me), and not by the new content. This is a relatively recent behaviour; before we got Private Comments, Summary sorted by whatever you had in it, green text or black. I know this because I used to keep my shelf order system in the Summary field until I moved it to Comments when that was made sortable. I'm asking if we can have the old sorting behaviour back.

If you mean the Summary field isn't really supposed to be used for anything but title and author information and therefore will not sort any content except the green text, please confirm this so that I have the certainty that this will not change. I will then either move my book/shelf size information to a content-sorting field (I'm thinking of Date) or await discussions on the possibility of user-defined fields.

I too am having search problems. I have coded the books I have completed in 2009, with the tag 2009. There are 40 books. When I search 2009 in tags I get 119 books.

242: Have you tried re-indexing? Here's the link:

http://www.librarything.com/grepsearch_reindex_books.php

Yeah, that would about sum up what is wrong with search for me, too, I think.

I just looked at the new "your books" page for the first time and I'm still in shock. There is a horizontal blue line through the top task bar. I'll have to look again after I recover, but overall I'd say I liked things just fine the way they were!

In posting a message a few minutes ago, I got a lot of messages about errors and a page asking me to have IE debug your website.

I just tried to post but my message came up blank...

Also, am on FF 3.0.9 (XP) and my buttons are wonky too.

http://i44.tinypic.com/23gzhna.png

I am still having the issue where when I load by viewing styles that do not have covers displayed, the field where members/reviews shows is blank (not 0 but missing icons and data) for a large percentage of my books.

XP Prof IE 6.0 at work
XP IE 7.0 at home

Tim, I'm starting to recover from the shock. I think what you mean by OS is my Microsoft Windows XP, Professional Service Pack 2. What I'm seeing on "my books" is not what you're showing as examples. In addition to the blue line through the task bar, I have strange boxes to the right of the list of books. These boxes are blank and have two numbers under them. The task bar looks nothing at all like the example you posted. I tried the refresh button and nothing happened.

Patti Hopton for moorestownmm

Patti, since post #245 was your first look, try clearing your cache and having another look. How you clear your cache depends on your browser (different from your OS) - try holding down the Control key as you click the Refresh button, then (just for fun) hold down the Alt key as you click Refresh. Another common method (FireFox) is to press Control-Shift-Delete at the same time (NOT Control-Alt-Delete!).

Thanks, justjim. I tried and none of those methods worked. My browser is IE.

Please consider changing "Stopped" to just about anything else. "Stopped" is just . . . wrong. It sounds like a clogged up sink, or a friendly chat with a cop after going 50 in a 30 zone, or a minor medical condition calling for extra fiber.

How about "Finished" or "Ended"? Both go with Started, both are far more indicative of how probably 90% of people use that field.

Justjim and Tim, I tried using Google: same result. Then I tried Google Chrome and everything looks as Tim shows in his examples! Thanks for your help. I guess I'm going to have to add to our library users' instructions that they have to use Google Chrome. I don't think this will go over well. I hope Tim will fix things so that folks who use IE can get the right pages and can do so without debugging messages.

Patti, I'm sure Tim, Chris and anyone else they've co-opted onto this will have it sorted very shortly.

>253 moorestownmm: - Patti - Don't have your users make a change that big yet. It seems as if Tim and Chris are working pretty hard on this, and they will definitely fix it so that everything is usable in all the major browsers - I'm sure it will be very soon, like today or the next few days.

Using a filter on a search to find a specific tag (tag "sold" in my library, if you want to check), I get oddly inconsistent results:

FF3/Vista: Seems to ignore the filter and search all fields.
IE7/Vista: Works as expected.

FF3/OSX Leopard: Works as expected.
Safari3/OSX Leopard: Ignores filter.

FF3/Ubuntu Jaunty: Ignores filter.
Epiphany2.26/Ubuntu Jaunty: Ignores filter.

Somehow I expected FF behavior to be consistent.

Patti, what version of IE? Not IE 6 I hope.

The "! x shares n books with you" message on someone elses catalog is a horrible yellow. And takes up unnecessary vertical space. It used to fit quite neatly next to their name, and didn't need highlighting in lemon.

Also other people's catalogs have the reviews under the shared icon, rather than next to it!

I'd mush prefer "Finished" but "Ended" is still a vast improvement on Stopped, which is just wrong.

jjwilson61, #257: I don't think so. It's whatever AOL uses with their version 9.1.

jjwilson61, #257: I don't think so. It's whatever AOL uses with their version 9.1.

> 252 Talbin:
Please consider changing "Stopped" to just about anything else. "Stopped" is just . . . wrong. It sounds like a clogged up sink, or a friendly chat with a cop after going 50 in a 30 zone, or a minor medical condition calling for extra fiber.

These are the BEST reasons I've heard for changing that label - thank you, Talbin! :-D

I agree with others that "End" or "Ended" sounds better.

On a related note, the sort pop-up has "date read" in its options. I think you'd want to be as consistent as possible in naming those options - so I suggest changing the column name to the more pleasant "Ended" and the sort box option to "date ended." Just my two cents. :-)

'Stopped' discussion has a thread all to itself now if anyone wants to stop over:

http://www.librarything.com/topic/62727

>258 reading_fox:
I don't get lemon, I get faded salmon (lemon goes with salmon though! Sorry.)

Here's my view of your catalogue. Sorry about the size.

Edited for link

If I try to translate the catalogue page my browser gets jammed. I have Firefox 3.0.3. There are things among the translatables that should not be there, e.g.
WstęP.
Compilação e prólogo
イラスト
BilledredaktøR
Übersetzer
King Lear
Behold the Man

edited a typo

Is this still the right place to talk about power bar problems when the buttons are not just misaligned but totally screwed up, as reported by #152: MikeBriggs?
If not here, where?

That is definitely not just a Firefox problem. I get it consistently, all the time with Epiphany GNOME Web Browser 2.16., like in Mike's picture of Firefox: List/Covers/Organize in one column, then Style/A/B/C/D/E/Edit in a column, Sort/Power edit/Print, then the rest of the width for Search/Searchoptions and a little text input area above them on the far right.

> 265
This is the thread for the power bar button stuff: http://www.librarything.com/topic/62704

I just had a small issue in the catalog. I am at work on mac OSX with Safari 2.X

I added tags to a book Patpong Sisters and it was fine. Then I tried to add tags to Bangkok 8, and when the tag box opened the tags from the previous book were already in the box.

I hit cancel and closed the tag box for the second book. I then tried to reopen the tag box, hoping the previous book's tags had cleared, but I can't open the tag box. I have double clicked several times and it won't open.

Also on the work/book (not sure which) page
http://www.librarything.com/work/168195/members/14955627

When I pressed members to see who had rated it, there is a listing for one 4.5 rating (from the grid), but the listing of members is missing the stars next to the name of the user who rated it 4.5.

That person is at the top of the list, above the 4.0 ratings, not a the bottom where a no star listing would go.

A) I still have the problem mentioned in post 133 when using IE7 XPsp3. Have tried changing resolution but that does not solve the problem.

Oddly enough, when at work and using IE6 XP, it looks just fine.

Both screens as set up with the same resolution.

B) When I search for "2009" + all fields, something that ought to result in 80-odd titles, only results in 4, two of which do not have 2009 anywhere in their data.

I have re-indexed my library prior to this search.

This is top of catalog window, I can't access the first books of the list
I use Seamonkey 1.1.9 Mac OSX.5.6
it works well in firefox and safari

Good on you! You have now made the whole thread as wide as your image!

timspalding: "Sorry. We're not going to be able to help you much. 800x600 is now 3.35% of visits, and only 2.72% of member visits. Our main competitor has been 950 from the start. Before the change, 800x600 wasn't fully okay. It's not okay now either. Ultimately, if you're going to use 800x600, you're going to see layout problems.".
Hello Tim,
I am a bit disappointed by what is happening. I complained about about serious bug yesterday that makes librarything unusable for me with my Opera browser and got a like answer based on percentage of membership. While I do be reasonable and can see how priorities must be set, I would not like to be shrugged off just because my work environment is not as popular as someone else's. As I see it until one or two days ago everything was just fine and librarything worked excellently for me - I did not ask for any changes, I liked what I had, I did not complain (fact is, I do not even like the optical change, I liked it better as it was before, it was faster and seemed to be more stable, but that is just me).
I invested a lot of time and energy in my catalog - that was voluntarily and I did it for myself, but I expected things to go on working. In my view those of us who do not mainstream equipment or have older machines and older systems should not be pushed away like that. If 800x 600 worked before, I think from a moral standpoint it should go on working, as well as my catalog which should continue to be accessible for me with my Opera browser. I may be only one or to percent and the man with 800x 600 may be not much more, but I would hate to see librarything starting (?) to judge its members by these standards. I expected something different. Sorry.

Just my two cents.
And I guess you and your team are busy and stressed and overworked at the moment, which I understand.

I reserve the right to come back and edit this message when I chill a little.

Yes I saved this spot for a comment like readafew's. Christian, you can afford to collect three and a half thousand books, you are an MD, a specialist to boot - upgrade your hardware!

271 > so at what point is it OK to quit supporting software or hardware? Just because it is what you have doesn't make it worth the staff's time. I'm sure I know people still using IE 4 or 5, it's one of those things where lines need to be drawn, it sucks to be on the wrong side, but there it is.

Uhh, wasn't the complaint just about adding back the horizonal scrollbar, which was there before.

I guess it is not very productive to follow that chain of discussion (which I started), but let me point out that my Linux system and my Opera browser are state of the art. BTW Opera is renowned for its strict adherence to standards so if things don't work it is less Opera and more server-side which is problematic. It is just that Opera is not widely used on desktop systems - and I see the point in that argument - but please see mine: things DID work for me, and now they don't, and it was not really my fault and while Opera is rare it does adhere to standards.
What really irked me: say it is difficult, say it takes time, but don't say I am unimportant because I represent only less than one percent of the membership. While this is a "reasonable" argument in my view it is not a good one, really - I could really talk long and loud on that subject.
So, I stop complaining here, thanks for having been patient.

275 > when you click the sort button it only displays one choice and not 2? I wonder why. Also cD does try to support the newer versions of Opera, but I think he was waiting until things settle down before fixing them. He's staying with IE and FF mostly for now.

I wonder if the message 270 is for me and if I made an error when posting 269 image, and in that case, may I correct by deleting my post ?

Yes it was. Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to start a new thread, put a link to this end of this thread at the top of it, put a link to the top of your new thread at the bottom of this thread and make sure the names are close enough to the same so that everybody knows what is going on.

Or not.

#277: guydebordas "I wonder if the message 270 is for me and if I made an error when posting 269 image, and in that case, may I correct by deleting my post ?"

If you just replace the image with a much narrower one, or by a link to an external image, all will be well.

>277 guydebordas:

guydebordas, bien joué.

Another example of what has already been reported: I was just looking at someone else's library and sorted by number of books owned by members. The sort results brought up my own library instead.

v

I don't think LT is any way obligated to maintain compatibility with all extant internet browsers. They are all available free online, so I think it is a little disingenuous to act like LT is discriminating against anyone.

I apologize profusely if this has already been addressed, but is anyone else having issues with the book pages displaying much wider than they used to?

The green boxes ("Buy Borrow or Swap"; "Popular Covers"; "Rating") are aligned so far to the right that I need the horizontal scroll bar to view them. They used to be aligned directly under the Search/Zeitgeist/Tools Tabs.

It's not a huge issue, but the previous way was more aesthetically pleasing as well as convenient.

(Oh and I'm on Windows XP with Firefox)

283> Is this when you go to edit the book? I've got a thread about that here: http://www.librarything.com/topic/62746

It appears to be the "tag" text box at fault: the more tags you have, the wider the page gets.

Echoing Pears in 133 & 268:

In IE7/XP, the "x" icon and the number after the review icon both extend beyond the shaded box when viewing my library, but not when viewing other libraries (4 icons vs. 3 icons). And when viewing other libraries, the icons and text in the blue box is wrapping to stay in the fixed width and giving a stacked appearance.

I am at work on mac OSX, Safari 2.X

When I click on the link to show all pages at the top on the right, it comes down and covers most of the screen. There is also no way to close the show all function, so you have to leave the catalog and come back in.

Also the tag text box problem is gone, but some of the text boxes for tags are tiny, while some are larger, any way to make them a uniform size, and larger rather than smaller ?

Right now I keep getting this:
Fatal error: Cannot redeclare get_legacylibraries() in /var/www/html/inc_legacylibraries.php on line 5

And I've been getting the same thing as 164.

FF3.0.8/XP

(edit: the error message is gone now. the bar up the top's still all jumbly)

Further to 281, I've found a neat way around the problem: when you've done the sort in the other library and been taken to your own library, then click back one page in your browser and refresh et voila! other library sorted.

v

>240 messpots: et al.: Same search problem. Search by title/author produces results from all fields.

FF 3.0/OSX

I am intermittantly seeing a problem (IE6/XP) where the members/reviews icons become disassociated from their works and there are sets of number "above" where the actual book lists start.

This winds up with other works data appearing to line up with the work in question - as noted in this thread:
http://www.librarything.com/topic/62632#1214119

How curious. I just noticed that one instance of an author had his surname fully capitalised. The view I was on was first, last so it looked like Piers ANTHONY. I double clicked and changed the caps so it looked like Anthony, Piers in edit mode and clicked save. It stayed Anthony, Piers until I went off the page and came back, then it displayed as expected as Piers Anthony.

Not a sleep stopper, but I thought I'd mention it.

155, 156, 158, 160, 271 > With Opera ON A XP MACHINE (haven´t tried out on my Linux box yet) the titles of the columns are back and clickable - thank you!
What does not yet work: the search button and its option button produce no visible action when clicked.

Kind regards - and sorry if I went a bit over the top yesterday Christian

When I click on the review icon for my Penguin copy of The War of the Worlds and go to the review page, the "Stevil2001's review" box is entirely blank. But I have reviewed the book, and I can still see my review down below. I suspect this is because I own multiple copies, but only one of them is reviewed.

Yes, I've just looked at my copies of Ahistory: An Unauthorised History of the Doctor Who Universe. Clicking the review links for each (1st edition and 2nd edition) brings up my review for the 2nd edition.

Similar problems on other books where I have multiple copies.

>293 Stevil2001:

Stevil, when I click on your first link in 293 I do see a review in the Stevil2001's reviews box.

If I search your library for War of the Worlds - I can see the 3 copies you have. Only the one you have the review for has the review bubble filled in - when I click on that review bubble I get the page where you can see your review at the top:
http://www.librarything.com/work/11494/reviews/41263128

For the other two:
http://www.librarything.com/work/11494/reviews/9609212
and
http://www.librarything.com/work/11494/reviews/41685749

You won't see the review because you don't have a review for that BOOK.

Reviews are "book" level, not "work" level data. (So you can review all three copies that you have - say you want to comment on the cover or illustrator or the additional biographical material or the translation - that wouldn't apply to all your copies so the review is specific to the copy that you entered it on.)

So I don't thing this is a bug/problem - it is working the way it is meant to.

I know how reviews work.

When I click the link for my Penguin Classics War of the Worlds edition, there's nothing in the edit review box.

When I click the link for my Ahistory 1st edition, the review of the 2nd edition is in my edit review box.

That is not the way it is meant to work.

Ah - I see, the problem is how it is displaying for you in the "edit" box.

When I click on the links you provided the reviews in the "Stevil2001's review" box at the top are for the correct edition. But since I don't see the "edit" box...

Sorry for the confusion.

When I click on your links I get the correct reviews in each case. Has it been fixed, or is it only a problem when looking at your own reviews?

I think it is only when he is looking at his own reviews - will try in my own library and report back.

Edited to add:

OK, I entered a review for one of my copies of Juggling for the Complete Klutz - clicking on the review bubble for either copy brings up a blank "edit review" box.

Yup, exactly. Glad to know it's not just me then!

@PortiaLong, Stevil2001:

I have the same thing in my catalog for Old Man's War and Through Wolf's Eyes. Clicking on the review link for either book shows a blank "edit review" box.

Could it be that it's showing the "edit review" box for the most recent copy? In all 4 cases I see so far (Stevil2001, PortiaLong, and both of mine) the most recently added copy of the book doesn't have a review. (Stevil reviewed the 2nd added of 3 copies, Portia & I reviewed the first of two - sort by entry date to see what I mean).

Ok, it is showing the "edit review" box for the most recent copy as far as I can tell.

I added a test review to the more recently added copy of one of my other doubles (Island of Dr. Moreau, I deleted it after testing) and when I clicked the review bubble for either copy of the book it showed the review.

You might be right-- I have two copies of Reunion, and it's the latterly-added one that I've reviewed, and that review shows up in both copies' review box.

Edit to add: Cross-post!

>292 cnrenner: unfortunately with the Linux version of Opera nothing has changed, yet. Still does not work. Kind regards Christian

Something new
1. In "Your books" using any Style, Hit Print - the pop-up appears.
2. Back to "Your books" view
3. Select a different Style - I get the correct Style but am thrown into Power Edit mode.

>304 kevmalone:
Yeah I got that too.
FF 2.0.0.20/XP

On my Your Books page search is not working properly.
If I search Civil War in titles/authors, I get results for all fields, same with a search on tags.
XP SP3 IE7 and Linux Ubuntu 8.04 FF 3.0.8

I noticed for the actual new review box that it seems to eat spaces between paragraphs. I had a single space to set them off - works well in talk. When I copied it to the review box (using the new review link) and saved, it took them out. I had to go in and edit - used old edit book link, not the new review link, and put in double spaces which edit kept when I saved it. When I went in to the new Review Link and saved it (to see if it would save or eat the double spaces), it took out the double spaces.

Can someone fix the new review box that you get from the new review link, so that it doesn't eat spaces.

.... So should I hold off writing new reviews until this is fixed?

Its just the spaces. It looks OK if you use the old edit book link and the save button at the bottom of the page. Its the new review link and save that seems to have the problem. When I open to edit the spaces are still there, but don't display when you use the new review link with new save button.

I am at home on FF2.X with XP

Hmm. I admit I haven't read all the newer posts here, but did anyone mention a problem like this? (not sure if it's related to new catalogue or newish work pages or whatever...)

When I input tags using the Edit Book link on the work page, the tags acquire double spaces between each tag after I save. It doesn't show up on display, only on the edit page, but it's there, and i know it didn't used to happen.

Two spaces between each tag has been there for quite a while (I have mentioned it elsewhere before, no one responded). For the punctuation sensitive, it's a little annoying, but there you go. Appears to be what they set it as, for many months now.

Nothing is showing on my tag page.

>307 FicusFan: FicusFan - see post 124 in this thread.

>312 esther_a:

Yes. I need to revisit the code. People with large libraries, like you, care causing a memory error.

This thread has been continued here: http://www.librarything.com/topic/62849

>314 timspalding:
My library is even bigger, but my tags show fine and fast.
Esther's tags do not show with me either.
I did a re-index yesterday on my library.

Believe me, I'm not lying. The problem is an out-of-memory error. It relates to the tags. I don't know which is worse—more tags on books or more unique tags—but the combination is causing a memory error. I'm certain I can change how the tag-getting function works, but I have to do that.

Also.

This thread has been continued here: http://www.librarything.com/topic/62849

I like the new format, especially since my catalogue has straightened itself out--no longer is the first entry chopped in half. One bug, however, is that my review entries are dated Dec 31, 1969 and do not appear on my list of reviews. They do appear on the book info page.

Thank you

I've probably simply missed it in learning a new system and beginning the very early stages of entering my books (and returning to them as I re-read for proper comments on them) but...

I like to sort my list by Author, (Series, order) or /title
I not only don't see a way to add the columns for series and order, I don't see the way to change the way they sort.

A good explanation in the Getting started: sorting tutorial would be very helpful (and if it's NOT there, then adding it)

Hi, dragonasbreath

There are a number of helpful hints in the Wiki (link at the bottom of every page).

To add columns to your display, look for the little button with a gear on it (next to A B C D E on the tool bar). When you click that you will get a screen which allows you to select the columns for each viewing style; you can use the defaults, or change everything.

Also on the button bar is one with little blue up and down arrows; this allows sorting on some fields that you can't sort by clicking their headers (though I am afraid Series isn't one of them). It also allows sorting within.

Hope this helps!

There isn't a Series column - at least, not one in your own library. There's a CK:Series column, which contains Common Knowledge info - that's entered by everyone and shows where it touches your books (you can enter data there too, but remember it's not just showing up in your library but in everyone's). The problem with CK is that it's not sortable. This is reasonable, because you can have multiple series attached to a single book (Narnia:Publication Order and Narnia:Chronological Order, for instance) and it can't figure out how to sort. But it's not too useful for sorting in your library.

What I do is use my Comments field, which works well if you're not using it for something else - I have a view that contains both CK:Series and Comments and copy the data as appropriate. I enter the series the way that makes sense to me, and skip series that don't make sense to me - and since the data in the Comments field is entirely mine, that's fine. And it's sortable. I write it Series, Order so that it sorts correctly (with leading zeros for series that get up into double digits - 01, 09, 10 sorts correctly, 9, 1, 10 is annoying). You can use any sortable field that you're not using for other stuff - Summary, for instance - if you've got stuff in Comments.

You can do a two-level sort - either click on the header for the subsort and then the header for the main sort (ie, click Title then Author and you get it sorted by author and by title within author), or click the double-arrows button staffordcastle mentioned (it's the first (leftmost) one in the group of three that's closest to the middle) and set the primary and secondary sort there. But again, there are some things you can't sort by, including any of the CK fields and Private Comments.