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1PaulCranswick
Mar 17, 2019, 2:37 am



Hani and Belle and I are in Malaysia. This is Kyran and Yasmyne in NZ and that is where all our hearts are at the moment.
God bless New Zealand.

2PaulCranswick
Edited: Apr 15, 2019, 9:34 pm

I am Paul Cranswick, sometime group statistician, Malaysian correspondent - construction project manager and avid book accumulator.

Father of three - Yasmyne, Kyran and Belle - the first two already studying in university in the UK and hopeful of a return to the UK in the none too distant future.

Had a tough few years and this affected badly my reading last year which was the first that I have failed to reach 100 books. This year - hope springs eternal so let's see.

3PaulCranswick
Edited: Apr 15, 2019, 9:38 pm

2019 Books

January

1. Findings by Kathleen Jamie BIAC
2. Black Robe by Brian Moore
3. Love on the Dole by Walter Greenwood
4. Football in Sun and Shadow by Eduardo Galeano
5. The Rider by Tim Krabbe

February

6. Exercises in Style by Raymond Queneau
7. My Name is Asher Lev by Chaim Potok
8. The Silence of the Girls by Pat Barker (BIAC)
9. A Thief in the Village by James Berry
10. The House of Arden by E. Nesbit (BIAC)

March

11. The Hanging Garden by Ian Rankin (BIAC)
12. Still Midnight by Denise Mina (BIAC)
13. Pippi Longstocking by Astrid Lindgren
14. Naomi by Junichiro Tanizaki
15. The Room on the Roof by Ruskin Bond
16. A Place of Execution by Val McDermid (BIAC)
17. Just William by Richmal Crompton

April

18. The Boy in the Striped Pyjamas by John Boyne (BIAC)
19. The War with the Newts by Karel Capek

4PaulCranswick
Edited: Apr 15, 2019, 10:05 pm

The Good Companions by J.B. Preistley & Petersburg by Andrei Bely

5PaulCranswick
Edited: Apr 15, 2019, 10:20 pm

BRITISH ISLES AUTHOR THEME CHALLENGE 2019



January 2019 - The Natural World https://www.librarything.com/topic/296824#6632759
February 2019 - Pat Barker and Peter F. Hamilton
March 2019 - The Murderous Scots https://www.librarything.com/topic/296824#6637458
April 2019 - Rosamond Lehmann and John Boyne
May 2019 - The Edwardians https://www.librarything.com/topic/299559#6656870
June 2019 - Nicola Barker and Wilkie Collins
July 2019 - YA Fantasy Series https://www.librarything.com/topic/299559#6660927
August 2019 - Anita Brookner and Jim Crace
September 2019 - Biography and Memoir https://www.librarything.com/topic/299559#6674204
October 2019 - Rose Tremain and Louis de Bernieres
November 2019 -The Jewish Contribution https://www.librarything.com/topic/301575#6688724
December 2019 - Zadie Smith and Michael Morpurgo
WILDCARD - Back to the Beginning - LIVELY and ISHIGURO

Here is a link to the thread:
https://www.librarything.com/topic/301916

6PaulCranswick
Edited: Apr 22, 2019, 1:52 pm

American Author Challenge



American Author Challenge 2019

I will be joining Linda's challenge where I can this year and have started:

January 2019 - Chaim Potok - My Name is Asher Lev
February 2019 - Louisa M Alcott
March 2019 - Jon Clinch

7PaulCranswick
Edited: Apr 22, 2019, 1:53 pm

CHALLENGE - A BOOK A YEAR SINCE 1900

120 books in this challenge so I am going to have to do much better than last year!

To date : 19/120

1908 - The House of Arden
1922 - Just William
1924 - Naomi
1933 - Love on the Dole
1936 - The War with the Newts
1947 - Exercises in Style
1950 - Pippi Longstocking
1956 - The Room on the Roof
1972 - My Name is Asher Lev
1978 - The Rider
1985 - Black Robe
1987 - Thief in the Village
1995 - Football in Sun and Shadow
1998 - The Hanging Garden
1999 - A Place of Execution
2005 - Findings
2006 - The Boy in the Striped Pyjamas
2009 - Still Midnight
2018 - The Silence of the Girls

8PaulCranswick
Edited: Apr 22, 2019, 1:54 pm

AROUND THE WORLD IN 80 BOOKS

Third attempt at this tough challenge which I have failed miserably at twice.


Create Your Own Visited Countries Map


1. United Kingdom Kathleen Jamie
2. Canada Brian Moore
3. Uruguay Eduardo Galeano
4. Netherlands Tim Krabbe
5. France Raymond Queneau
6. USA Chaim Potok
7. Jamaica James Berry
8. Sweden Astrid Lindgren
9. Japan Junichiro Tanizaki
10. India Ruskin Bond
11. Czechia Karel Capek

9PaulCranswick
Edited: Mar 17, 2019, 3:15 am

Reading plans

BIAC - at least Rankin and Mina hopefully also May and McDermid
Peter F Hamilton to finish

AAC - Jon Clinch if I get his book delivered in time.

120 book challenge - 1900s The Nebuly Coat
1910s Petersburg to finish
1920s Naomi
1920s The Good Companions to finish
1930s The Late Monsieur Gallet
1940s The Tunnel
1950s Pippi Longstocking
1950s The Room on the Roof
1960s Came a Hot Friday
1970s The Earth of Mankind
1980s Sardines
1990s The Hanging Garden
1990s A Place of Execution
2000s Misspent Youth
2000s Still Midnight
2010s The Blackhouse

10PaulCranswick
Mar 17, 2019, 2:41 am

Next is yours

11quondame
Mar 17, 2019, 3:16 am

Happy new thread!

12charl08
Edited: Mar 17, 2019, 3:17 am

Ooh, am I first? Lovely topper picture Paul, and a touching sentiment.

Eta: Ha! Not quite.

13PaulCranswick
Mar 17, 2019, 3:38 am

>11 quondame: Susan - it's cool; that spool.

>12 charl08: Thanks Charlotte. xx

14SandDune
Edited: Mar 17, 2019, 5:24 am

Happy New Thread, Paul!

>1 PaulCranswick: My sister is also in New Zealand at the moment, although cruising around its remoter regions I believe, so nowhere near Christchurch. That’s a lovely picture of Kyran and Yasmyne on the beach ..

15figsfromthistle
Mar 17, 2019, 6:32 am

Happy new thread!

16msf59
Mar 17, 2019, 7:28 am

Happy New Thread, Paul. Love that gorgeous topper! I hope you are finding time to get plenty of reading in.

17jessibud2
Mar 17, 2019, 8:13 am

Happy new thread, Paul. Are Kyran and Yasmyne in NZ right now? Yikes. Wishing everyone well.

18jnwelch
Mar 17, 2019, 9:31 am

Happy New Thread, Paul!

Joining you in having NZ in our hearts right now.

19BLBera
Mar 17, 2019, 10:11 am

Happy new thread, Paul. Lovely topper. Hope Kyran and Jasmine are safe.

20weird_O
Mar 17, 2019, 10:37 am

Hurray, Paul. A thread I can cope with. It's a quiet Sunday here; hope your day is quiet too. Good day to finish a book.

21PaulCranswick
Mar 17, 2019, 11:50 am

>14 SandDune: Brings back such happy memories, Rhian, that photo. Hope your sister is well.

>15 figsfromthistle: Thank you, Anita.

22PaulCranswick
Mar 17, 2019, 11:53 am

>16 msf59: I'm not doing half as well as I would like with the reading but the amount of books started but not yet finished gives me some hope, Mark.

>17 jessibud2: No Shelley; they are in the UK.

23thornton37814
Mar 17, 2019, 12:19 pm

Happy new thread, Paul! Glad to hear your sister is okay in NZ.

24johnsimpson
Mar 17, 2019, 12:57 pm

Happy new thread mate.

25Ameise1
Mar 17, 2019, 2:33 pm

Happy new one, Paul.

26FAMeulstee
Mar 17, 2019, 3:52 pm

Happy new thread, Paul!

>1 PaulCranswick: Lovely picture of Kyran and Yasmyne in NZ.
It is horrible what happened in Christchurch :'(

27Familyhistorian
Mar 17, 2019, 3:55 pm

Happy new thread, Paul. I hope that Hani and your in-laws and their roof are all in good form.

28LizzieD
Mar 17, 2019, 4:19 pm

Like Bill, I'm happy to find a thread I can manage. Hope you put lots of good reading thoughts on it.
Like everybody else,, I can't stop thinking about Christchurch and feeling sick and sorry.

29PaulCranswick
Mar 17, 2019, 6:28 pm

>18 jnwelch: Thanks Joe. I remember a UN report placed NZ as the most islamic country in the world in terms of its civic management so there is a bitter irony that this would happen there. NZ reaction to it though does rather prove the quality of its institutions.

>19 BLBera: Thanks Beth. They are fine. I didn't mean for my post to be misleading.

30PaulCranswick
Mar 17, 2019, 6:30 pm

>20 weird_O: I spent much of the day driving, Bill, but pleasant too.

>23 thornton37814: Thanks Lori. It is Rhian's sister who is in NZ.

31PaulCranswick
Mar 17, 2019, 6:31 pm

>24 johnsimpson: Thanks John.

>25 Ameise1: Thank you Barbara.

32PaulCranswick
Mar 17, 2019, 6:33 pm

>26 FAMeulstee: Thanks Anita. It is indeed a terrible thing.

>27 Familyhistorian: Thank you Meg. The roof is already fixed and they had sufficient money left over from what I gave them to add a fancy new gate!

33PaulCranswick
Mar 17, 2019, 6:34 pm

>28 LizzieD: Peggy, I should probably renew threads whilst on the hoof as it gives more time for people to keep up! Glad you came by, dear lady.

34PaulCranswick
Mar 17, 2019, 7:07 pm

Book #12 in 2019



Still Midnight by Denise Mina

Date of Publication : 2009 (12 of 120)
Origin of Author : UK
Pages : 376 (3,329 total)
BIAC Challenge March 2019 - Scottish Murder and Mayhem (DS Morrow Book 1)

Denise Mina is normally billed as "critically acclaimed" and I can see why.

Nothing particularly special about the plot or the ham-fisted crime it portrays, but it is characterisation that makes her a winner. Morrow is a prickly, damaged lady cop with a past she hides but to also get into the minds of criminal and victims makes her a writer to follow.

And I shall.

35PaulCranswick
Edited: Mar 17, 2019, 7:13 pm

Book #13 in 2019



Pippi Longstocking by Astrid Lindgren

Date of Publication : 1950 (13 of 120)
Origin of author : Sweden (8 of 80)
Pages : 160 (3,489 total)

Delightful but naively far-fetched.

If ever a girl would have benefitted from a right royal spanking it is Pippi but of course she is far too strong for anyone to pull it off!

36harrygbutler
Mar 17, 2019, 7:17 pm

Happy new thread, Paul.

37PaulCranswick
Edited: Mar 17, 2019, 7:22 pm

I forgot some books to add:

49. Still Midnight by Denise Mina
50. A Place of Execution by Val McDermid
51. Ghost Wall by Sarah Moss
52. Freshwater by Akwaeke Emezi

38PaulCranswick
Mar 17, 2019, 7:18 pm

>36 harrygbutler: Thank you Harry.

39Caroline_McElwee
Mar 17, 2019, 7:26 pm

>34 PaulCranswick: I have some Denise Mina on my Kindle, I'll nudge it up the pile, I haven't read her before, but I've always heard good things Paul.

40quondame
Mar 17, 2019, 9:11 pm

>35 PaulCranswick: It wouldn't be nearly so fun for kids, especially girls, if somehow Pippi had been repressible. Besides, since she can totally take care of herself and pay for whatever she destroys, why should she be other than she is, the ultimate representative of childhood empowerment!

41PaulCranswick
Mar 17, 2019, 9:15 pm

>39 Caroline_McElwee: I liked the ordinariness of things going wrong. Villains who are not masterminds or ruthlessly evil, just oftentimes sad and desperate.

>40 quondame: Hahaha I guess so, Susan. I have to say that the burglar and the school sketches were priceless, but the tea party with her being rather liberal with granulated sugar was scold worthy.

There is child enough left in me to enjoy the fun.

42drneutron
Mar 17, 2019, 9:40 pm

Coming late to the party, but Happy New Thread!

43PaulCranswick
Mar 17, 2019, 9:43 pm

Thanks Jim. Always most welcome!

44foggidawn
Mar 17, 2019, 10:08 pm

Happy new thread! I enjoyed Pippi’s antics as a child, but expect I would be less amused by them today!

45PaulCranswick
Mar 17, 2019, 10:33 pm

>45 PaulCranswick: Still made me smile. There is one trick she does in describing someone in detail and then saying that she's never seen them that I have myself adopted on numerous childish occasions.

46scaifea
Mar 18, 2019, 5:28 am

Hi, Paul!
I'm a huge fan of Pippi, myself.

47fairywings
Mar 18, 2019, 6:37 am

Happy new thread Paul

48EllaTim
Mar 18, 2019, 7:03 am

Happy new thread, Paul!

From your description Denise Mina seems a writer I'd like. I just finished Cold Granite by Stuart MacBride, and liked it a lot as well. For the same reason, his villains are just people, human.

49thornton37814
Mar 18, 2019, 7:58 am

If I'm not mistaken, my first introduction to Pippi Longstocking was in elementary school when a teacher read the book aloud to us. I think we all loved it!

50PawsforThought
Mar 18, 2019, 8:28 am

I was such a massive Pippi fan when I was a kid that my mum used it to get me to take my medicine when I was ill. Worked like a charm. Am still a huge Pippi fan.

51jnwelch
Mar 18, 2019, 8:42 am

I loved Pippi Longstocking as a kid, too. Outrageous and kind - what's not to like?

52PaulCranswick
Mar 18, 2019, 8:52 am

>46 scaifea: I'll bet our classicist bore a slight resemblance to Pippi in her youth, no?

>47 fairywings: Thank you Adrienne.

53laytonwoman3rd
Mar 18, 2019, 8:53 am

>1 PaulCranswick: Lovely photo of your sprightly offspring, Paul.

54PaulCranswick
Mar 18, 2019, 8:54 am

>48 EllaTim: A friend of mine told me, Ella, that realism is because all Scots have a little of the rebel or villain about them! I have many Scottish friends so I cannot, of course, comment.

>49 thornton37814: I would have loved it too as a school boy had it been told to me. It passed us by in West Yorkshire where it was all The Railway Children, Enid Blyton and The Secret Garden.

55PaulCranswick
Mar 18, 2019, 8:56 am

>50 PawsforThought: It is certainly a charming little book, Paws, and I will look out for her other books.

>51 jnwelch: Outrageous and kind - great description of a number of my pals.

56PaulCranswick
Mar 18, 2019, 8:56 am

>53 laytonwoman3rd: Thanks Linda. That photo encapsulates the joy of that holiday and my love of New Zealand.

57karenmarie
Mar 18, 2019, 8:58 am

Hi Paul!

Happy new thread, lovely photo of Kyran and Yasmyne in NZ.

58PaulCranswick
Mar 18, 2019, 9:08 am

Book #14 in 2019



Naomi by Junichiro Tanizaki

Date of Publication : 1924 (14 of 120)
Origin of Author : Japan (9 of 80)
Pages : 237 (3,726 in total)

Wherein the teacher gets taught a lesson in love.

Characters were pliable or pitiful or preening or preposterous. As someone who has oftentimes been smitten with the opposite sex, I can understand the narrator and his fall.

Mildly enjoyable.

59PaulCranswick
Mar 18, 2019, 9:09 am

>57 karenmarie: Thank you Karen. Now they are studying hard in the UK so those carefree days do seem a mighty long way off at times.

60PaulCranswick
Edited: Mar 19, 2019, 12:02 am

Favourite Books read from each year of my lifetime.

Probably done this before:

1966 The Fixer by Bernard Malamud
1967 One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel Garcia Marquez
1968 A Kestrel for a Knave by Barry Hines
1969 Strumpet City by James Plunkett
1970 Fifth Business by Robertson Davies
1971 The Day of the Jackal by Frederick Forsyth
1972 To Serve Them All My Days by R.F. Deldefield
1973 The Honorary Consul by Graham Greene
1974 Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy by John Le Carre
1975 Ragtime by E.L. Doctorow
1976 The Children of Dynmouth by William Trevor
1977 A Time of Gifts by Patrick Leigh Fermor
1978 Rumours of Rain by Andre Brink
1979 Sophie's Choice by William Styron
1980 Earthly Powers by Anthony Burgess
1981 Midnight's Children by Salman Rushdie
1982 The Sunne in Splendour by Sharon K Penman/
If Not Now, When? by Primo Levi TIE
1983 Shame by Salman Rushdie
1984 La Noces Barbares by Yann Queffelec
1985 Blood Meridian by Cormac McCarthy
1986 The Prince of Tides by Pat Conroy
1987 The Fatal Shore by Robert Hughes
1988 Breathing Lessons by Anne Tyler
1989 A Prayer for Owen Meany by John Irving
1990 Lies of Silence by Brian Moore
1991 The Redundancy of Courage by Timothy Mo
1992 A Place of Greater Safety by Hilary Mantel
1993 The Shipping News by Annie Proulx
1994 Captain Corelli's Mandolin by Louis de Bernieres
1995 A Fine Balance by Rohinton Mistry
1996 Last Orders by Graham Swift
1997 Jack Maggs by Peter Carey
1998 Birthday Letters by Ted Hughes
1999 Plainsong by Kent Haruf
2000 White Teeth by Zadie Smith
2001 The Shadow of the Wind by Carlos Ruiz Zafon
2002 Fingersmith by Sarah Waters
2003 Tooth and Claw by Jo Walton
2004 Birds without Wings by Louis de Bernieres
2005 The Historian by Elizabeth Kostova
2006 Mister Pip by Lloyd Jones
2007 Half of a Yellow Sun by Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie
2008 Child 44 by Tom Rob Smith
2009 Wolf Hall by Hilary Mantel
2010 The Long Song by Andrea Levy
2011 Among Others by Jo Walton
2012 The Yellow Birds by Kevin Young
2013 The Ocean at the End of the Lane by Neil Gaiman
2014 The Bone Clocks by David Mitchell
2015 The Dictator's Last Night by Yasmin Khadera
2016 The North Water by Ian McGuire
2017 Exit West by Mohsin Hamid
2018 The Silence of the Girls by Pat Barker

61ronincats
Mar 18, 2019, 11:30 pm

>60 PaulCranswick: Yeah, but always can bear repeating, Paul. Happy New Thread!

62LizzieD
Mar 18, 2019, 11:31 pm

>60 PaulCranswick: That was fun, Paul. Of the 20 of your favorites I've read, I enjoyed 15 very much; the other 5 not so much.
I can't even think of the time it would take for me to retrieve my reading lists and pick one book for each year from 1966 (the year I graduated from college, btw).

63PaulCranswick
Mar 18, 2019, 11:39 pm

>60 PaulCranswick: Thanks Roni. xx

>62 LizzieD: I'm sure that if I made the list again next month from scratch there would be one or two changes to it.
You made me feel like one of the young whipper-snappers of the group at a mere 53!

64PaulCranswick
Mar 19, 2019, 12:24 am

Of the 54 books I selected above, I am rather puzzled and ashamed that only 13 are written by ladies and 41 are written by men.

Of the choices:

Most catalogued - A Hundred Years of Solitude 34,736
Least catalogued - The Dictator's Last Night - 67

Highest Average Rating - The Sunne in Splendour - 4.47
Lowest Average Rating - The Dictator's Last Night - 3.42

26 books by UK authors
12 books by US authors
3 books by Canadian authors
2 books by Australian authors
2 books by Irish authors
1 book by South African
1 book by Algerian
1 book by French
1 book by Italian
1 book by New Zealander
1 book by Spanish
1 book by Nigerian
1 book by Colombian
1 book by Pakistani

65quondame
Edited: Mar 19, 2019, 12:36 am

>60 PaulCranswick: I've only read 10 of those, liked them all, and am currently in the middle of Ragtime. My list would have to include some Ursula Le Guin and a C. J. Cherryh, but then 90% of what I've read since 1955 is probably F&SF. And 80% of the rest was written before I was born.

>64 PaulCranswick: Strange, my one dip in a Penman book had it landing against the wall.

When I ran a SF club library in the late 70s into the mid 80s, I purchased nearly everything that came out by women and have pretty much weighted my reading similarly since.

66PaulCranswick
Mar 19, 2019, 1:19 am

>65 quondame: I wonder if it is true that men tend to read books by men and ladies books by ladies. I would hope not and certainly I do think that my reading was slanted earlier as there were so many more male writers than female ones.

Interestingly in the 19 years of this century so far it is more even with 10 books by guys and 9 by gals.

67quondame
Mar 19, 2019, 1:31 am

>66 PaulCranswick: There are a great many more women authors now, not that they were ever rare, and outside the children's, romance, and domestic tales where women weren't pretty much the second or third class citizens. I tend to read books by authors I know I like, of which many are women, pick books off the new book shelf by women I haven't read much more often than books by men I'm not familiar with. That's how I found Robin Hobb and Kate Elliott. An exception is Edward Lazellari, whoever did his covers deserves credit!

68PaulCranswick
Mar 19, 2019, 1:35 am

SF and fantasy is, I always tell my friends, not my thing. Then again I see that Jo Walton and Neal Gaiman are both represented on my list. JRR Tolkien would be there too had I been born a bit earlier! and I like writers such as Feist and Mary Stewart too.

69Berly
Mar 19, 2019, 1:56 am

>60 PaulCranswick: What I noticed most from your favorite books by year is that I am older than you! LOL I share your opinion for many of the years. Happy new thread, sir!

70PaulCranswick
Mar 19, 2019, 3:24 am

>69 Berly: I would not have thought myself your junior Kimmers! You are far better preserved than am I!

71Carmenere
Mar 19, 2019, 8:53 am

Happy new thread, Paul! Looking forward to what you think of Ghost Wall. Although, I can only imagine northern England in my mind, I thought the author did a fine job in creating an atmospheric story.

72jnwelch
Edited: Mar 19, 2019, 11:32 am

>60 PaulCranswick:. Love that list, Paul. What a pleasure to see Earthly Powers on it. That book seems way too underknown.

Man, A Fine Balance remains the saddest book I’ve ever read.

73RBeffa
Mar 19, 2019, 12:03 pm

>35 PaulCranswick: I still have the first three Pippi books that I purchased in grade school. I must have been about 10 or 11. I certainly enjoyed them when I was young, and passed them on to my daughter when she was little. They're stored away at present in our "kids books" box. I'm glad it still managed to charm you a bit.

74PaulCranswick
Mar 19, 2019, 12:54 pm

>71 Carmenere: Of course, Lynda, I am familiar with the 'frozen North' and I am sure that Sarah Moss will do an excellent job of recreating it!

>72 jnwelch: I read that one (Earthly Powers) over thirty years ago, Joe, whilst in Egypt and it blew me away. I would go as far as to say that A Fine Balance is the finest novel written in my lifetime.

75PaulCranswick
Mar 19, 2019, 12:55 pm

>73 RBeffa: I will look out for the rest of the books, Ron, as the child in me continues to resurface!

76PaulCranswick
Edited: Mar 25, 2019, 5:47 pm

Book #15 in 2019



The Room on the Roof by Ruskin Bond

Date of Publication : 1956 (15 of 120)
Origin of Author : India (10 of 80)
Pages : 191 (3,917 in total)

Written when he was just 17, this is a charming coming of age novel featuring Rusty, a semi-autobiographical creation of the author.

Set among the bazaars and tea shops of small town India, Rusty runs away from his strict guardian to find friendship as well as life's harsh realities await him.

Nice short read.

77m.belljackson
Edited: Mar 19, 2019, 4:54 pm

As an Englishman, can you shed light on "gorm" ... ?
(as spoken by Mr. Peggoty in David Copperfield)

So far, in the Group Copperfield thread, we've got "go on for" and "Go for."

78PaulCranswick
Mar 19, 2019, 7:10 pm

>77 m.belljackson: I would suggest that it means "understand". I am guessing that this is from the fairly common english usage of the word "gormless" which means lacking in reason or understanding. Take the less in gormless away therefore it should mean understand.

In old English "gorm" actually relates to the colour blue but I don't see how that could fit in the instance.

79FAMeulstee
Mar 19, 2019, 7:31 pm

>60 PaulCranswick: Yes you have done before, Paul, you infected me at the time ;-)
Always good to see an updated list. I should check mine as I think 2018 is missing there, and some years might have different books by now.

>64 PaulCranswick: I read more male writer, although I TRY to read more female writers...

80PaulCranswick
Mar 19, 2019, 10:37 pm

>79 FAMeulstee: I will go and find my earlier list, Anita, and see how many changes there are actually are to it.

I don't think I "knowingly" choose authors because of their gender. I hope I don't do it sub-consciously either!

81PaulCranswick
Mar 19, 2019, 11:09 pm

Top Ten Novels Written in My Lifetime

1. A Fine Balance by Rohinton Mistry

2. Half of a Yellow Sun by Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie

3. Shame by Salman Rushdie

4. If Not Now, When? by Primo Levi

5. The Sunne in Splendour by Sharon K Penman

6. Plainsong by Kent Haruf

7. A Place of Greater Safety by Hilary Mantel

8. The Redundancy of Courage by Timothy Mo

9. The Gift of Rain by Tan Twan Eng

10. Waterland by Graham Swift



82amanda4242
Mar 20, 2019, 1:20 am

Happy new(ish) thread!

83PaulCranswick
Mar 20, 2019, 1:23 am

>82 amanda4242: Thanks Amanda. Missing seeing posts over at your thread?!

84Familyhistorian
Mar 20, 2019, 1:23 am

I have read very few books on your list, Paul. For a while there I was listing the gender of the authors that I read and there were more females than males but then I read a lot of mysteries and there are a lot of female mystery writers. (Queens of Crime - I cut my eye teeth on Agatha Christie).

85PaulCranswick
Mar 20, 2019, 1:51 am

>84 Familyhistorian: Yes, I have read a fair number by the Dame also, Meg.

86BekkaJo
Mar 20, 2019, 5:57 am

Checking in - love the top pic. X

87PaulCranswick
Mar 20, 2019, 9:44 am

>86 BekkaJo: Thanks Bekka. Lovely to see you on the threads. xx

88amanda4242
Edited: Mar 20, 2019, 3:20 pm

>83 PaulCranswick: I'll update my thread soon, but let me finish this chapter first...

89m.belljackson
Mar 20, 2019, 2:35 pm

>78 PaulCranswick:

Thanks for your contribution here and on Copperfield thread, where there are more responses.

90ChelleBearss
Mar 21, 2019, 1:35 am

happy new thread, Paul!

91charl08
Mar 21, 2019, 3:52 am

>81 PaulCranswick: I'll have to go away and think about this one - interesting category! Thanks for the lists (as always).
I wasn't sure if you'd read or acquired Ghost Wall - I just read it and was struck by it, but perhaps not as much as others here.

92msf59
Mar 21, 2019, 7:36 am

>81 PaulCranswick: I love this list and I am tickled pink to see Plainsong make such a strong showing. I still NEED to get to the Adiche, Mantel and Eng. I am fans of all 3.

Sweet Thursday, Paul. I hope you are having a good week.

93Caroline_McElwee
Mar 21, 2019, 8:32 am

>81 PaulCranswick: Hmmm, I'll have to ponder on that exercise Paul. I've certainly liked a few from your list.

94PaulCranswick
Mar 21, 2019, 6:20 pm

>88 amanda4242: Brilliant. A new chapter and a new page.

>89 m.belljackson: Yes, I saw the comments, Marianne. Seems that I am more gormless than I thought!

95PaulCranswick
Mar 21, 2019, 6:23 pm

>90 ChelleBearss: Thank you, Chelle.

>91 charl08: Kinokuniya were having a special offer on the Women's Prize longlist so I picked up Ghost Wall and Freshwater at 20% discount.

96PaulCranswick
Mar 21, 2019, 6:25 pm

>92 msf59: I was surprised that a dozen of the books on my list were written by American authors as I read many more books by British authors. Plainsong is close to my favourite American novel, I just love the lightness of Haruf's touch, Mark.

>93 Caroline_McElwee: I would be hugely interested in your list, Caroline.

97karenmarie
Mar 21, 2019, 6:30 pm

Hi Paul!

>60 PaulCranswick: I had to go dig my list out, too; mine was hidden as a 3rd tab in my last year’s books read spreadsheet. I’ve read 8 books published in 2018 but none that I’d consider adding to my list.

>81 PaulCranswick: Well. I’ve got A Fine Balance on my shelves, have other (unread) books by Salman Rushdie and Sharon Kay Penman, started and abandoned Plainsong, and haven’t heard of the other authors. You always impress me with the breadth of your reading interests.

98PaulCranswick
Mar 21, 2019, 8:34 pm

>97 karenmarie: What you felt about the books read for 2018 is my feeling for 2017. I haven't yet read many from 2017 and I didn't rate Exit West overly but it is the best I have read to date.

Abandoned Plainsong?! Wowzer.

99m.belljackson
Mar 21, 2019, 9:23 pm

>94 PaulCranswick:

On reading the first chapters of THE BOOK WOMAN OF TROUBLESOME CREEK,
I will assume you are reverting to Olde English to let us know that your skin is not blue.

Thanks to some French ancestry moved to rural Appalachia, the Book Woman's actually was.

100PaulCranswick
Mar 21, 2019, 10:07 pm

>99 m.belljackson: Skin is not blue certainly in the tropical heat of South East Asia, Marianne.

101Deern
Mar 22, 2019, 8:28 am

I think the last thread I visited was still #1. *aaargh* what a year...
Anyway - I'm here to wish you a lovely weekend :)

102SirThomas
Mar 22, 2019, 12:55 pm

Happy new thread Paul, and a belated thank you for the stats!
I wish you and yours a wonderful weekend.

103PaulCranswick
Edited: Mar 22, 2019, 9:26 pm

>101 Deern: It is a funny year so far, Nathalie. Posting is way down but reading way up - connected surely.

>102 SirThomas: Thanks Thomas

104Berly
Mar 22, 2019, 11:30 pm

>81 PaulCranswick: Well, clearly I need to get goin on your list of favorites since I have read exactly none of them! Well, I have read several of the authors, but not those exact books. I can always use another list. : )

Happy weekend!

105LovingLit
Mar 23, 2019, 4:01 am

>1 PaulCranswick: that is lovely, Paul :)
I am back doing rounds of the threads again after a week off, wherein I basically trawled facebook for news of the mass murders here (not a sustainable pastime). Everyone is in shock here. My boss is lovely and encouraged us all take time off work go the public park to stand vigil while the call to Friday prayers took place. As it happened I was off sick on the day, but got out of bed to go down. It was very emotional (obviously).

>81 PaulCranswick: I LOVE this list! I may have to compile a similar one.

106PaulCranswick
Mar 23, 2019, 4:20 am

>104 Berly: The list in >60 PaulCranswick: also zero, Kimmers?

>105 LovingLit: I thought the reaction of the New Zealand public and its politicians and public servants was an absolute credit to your nation. Went some way to renewing my faith in the brotherhood of humanity, strangely enough.

I look forward to seeing your list too, Megan. xx

107LovingLit
Mar 23, 2019, 4:24 am

I have read 12 from >60 PaulCranswick: and half of your top ten life time reads :)

108LovingLit
Mar 23, 2019, 4:39 am

Also, from #182 on your last thread (yes, I sometimes go back and catch up on what I missed), where you said :I do often like reading opposing views to my own on a sort of Devil's Advocate basis. I have read a few books by politicians, economists and thinkers of the right largely to confirm my own views which are opposite!
I do the same! And will one day read Ayn Rand for the same reason :) If I can stomach it.

109PaulCranswick
Mar 23, 2019, 12:13 pm

>107 LovingLit: Not bad 12, Megan.

>108 LovingLit: Did I say that? Not bad, really!
I'm not sure that I could quite stomach Ayn Rand though!

110PaulCranswick
Mar 23, 2019, 12:14 pm

Today is my wedding anniversary .

Hani and I have made it to 23 years and most of those years have been magnificent.

Thank you SWMBO.

111PaulCranswick
Mar 23, 2019, 12:18 pm

We are pretty devastated actually.

Kyran's best friend Dea was killed yesterday as he fell from an apartment car park. We don't quite know the circumstances but the poor boy may have been murdered or it was an accident. The police suspect foul play.

Kyran is inconsolable and I have been on the phone with him four times already. He is a sensitive soul and has taken the loss of his friend very badly indeed.

112charl08
Mar 23, 2019, 12:39 pm

>111 PaulCranswick: Oh how tragic, Paul. So sorry for poor Kyran and his friend's family. Hope the university are able to provide some support?

113m.belljackson
Mar 23, 2019, 12:39 pm

Paul - Please let your son know how sorry we are.

Did this happen in England or Malaysia?

Either way, deliberate or accident, it will be a life changer for your son - keep him close.

114mahsdad
Mar 23, 2019, 12:49 pm

Oh geesh, my heart goes out to you guys.

115laytonwoman3rd
Edited: Mar 23, 2019, 12:54 pm

>111 PaulCranswick: Oh, Paul...what a terrible thing. As a parent, I don't know what to say to you...I'm sure "inconsolable" is a very appropriate word for Kyran's state right now, and it's so hard to offer comfort at a distance. Did this happen where he is, or elsewhere? Is there counseling available at his school? And you...I assume your whole family knew this young man as well. Strength to all of you.

116PaulCranswick
Mar 23, 2019, 1:13 pm

>112 charl08: His friend died in Malaysia but I do think that Kyran needs a little bit of help. Told him not to stay by himself today.

>113 m.belljackson: The accident (I believe it to be as I cannot see why anyone would want to hurt Dea) happened in a Condo in Kuala Lumpur. Kyran does seem so very far away tonight.

117PaulCranswick
Mar 23, 2019, 1:15 pm

>114 mahsdad: Thank you Jeff.

>115 laytonwoman3rd: He was at our house most days chewing the fat with Kyran on our balcony. A genuinely lovely boy. Thanks Linda.

118jessibud2
Mar 23, 2019, 1:31 pm

Oh no. Such a tragedy. Is Kyran anywhere near Yasmyne? If so, that might be of comfort to him. Also, do encourage him to seek some help with counselling at the University. Most universities do have some sort of assistance in this area, I think.

Condolences to you all and to the boy's family.

119banjo123
Mar 23, 2019, 1:40 pm

So sorry about Kyran's friend.

120PaulCranswick
Mar 23, 2019, 1:56 pm

>118 jessibud2: They are at opposite ends of the country. Kyran on the South Coast at Portsmouth and Yasmyne is up in Edinburgh. I do know they spoke together today. I am going to call him again in a few minutes - it is 2 am here.

>119 banjo123: Thanks Rhonda. xx

121quondame
Mar 23, 2019, 2:27 pm

>110 PaulCranswick: Congratulations!

>111 PaulCranswick: How shocking and dreadful.

122LovingLit
Mar 23, 2019, 4:11 pm

Oh dear, that is a game changer for Kyran. It is easy to grow up thinking everyone is bulletproof, particularly the young. What a nightmare for him, no one needs to learn how to grieve their peers at this age.

123Caroline_McElwee
Mar 23, 2019, 4:16 pm

>111 PaulCranswick: how tragic. You don't want young people to have the burden of grief so young, or to have their lives cut short so soon. Hopefully Kyran will have the support of other grieving friends Paul.

>110 PaulCranswick: happy anniversary to you and Hani, despite tragedy interceding.

124streamsong
Mar 23, 2019, 4:19 pm

I'm really sorry to hear about Kyran's friend. Truly awful for all who knew him.

It sounds very odd to say Happy Anniversary on the same post, but many congratulations to you and Hani for your twenty three years.

125paulstalder
Mar 23, 2019, 4:36 pm



wish you a quiet weekend, peace of mind despite the tragedy with Kyran's friend

126FAMeulstee
Mar 23, 2019, 6:14 pm

>110 PaulCranswick: Congratulations Hani & Paul!

>111 PaulCranswick: So sorry to read this sad news, it is hard to loose a friend at such a young age.

127thornton37814
Mar 23, 2019, 8:41 pm

>110 PaulCranswick: Happy Anniversary!

128drneutron
Edited: Mar 23, 2019, 9:21 pm

So sorry for Kyran’s loss. What a tragedy.

129Berly
Mar 23, 2019, 9:37 pm

>106 PaulCranswick: I have read 15 of your total year list and have about 10 waiting on the shelves. Just none of your faves...yet!

>110 PaulCranswick: Happy Anniversary! You've made it through thick and thin. Congrats.

As to Kyran...I am so sorry! And he is so far away. That's hard. It is a loss he will carry with him always. I hope he can remember the good times.

130PaulCranswick
Mar 23, 2019, 9:46 pm

>121 quondame: Susan, I spoke to Kyran a few times last night and he will get some help from the university. He was with another friend yesterday which helped him.

>122 LovingLit: I had to tell him, yesterday, that I have never experienced what he is going through. Even though I am 52 I don't recall losing any of my friends yet.

131PaulCranswick
Mar 23, 2019, 9:49 pm

>123 Caroline_McElwee: Thank you, Caroline. We have had some tough times recently and to make things even worse the telly is now on the blink. I don't really watch it but Hani is pretty devastated.

>124 streamsong: Yes, Janet, I even thought twice about mentioning my anniversary but I guess that life is like that the rough and the smooth alongside each other.

132PaulCranswick
Mar 23, 2019, 9:51 pm

>125 paulstalder: Thank you Paul.

>126 FAMeulstee: It is the love of life that the young man had that has been so sadly cut short that is what is so heartrendingly sad. He was brought up by a single-mum and we'll go to see her today.

133PaulCranswick
Mar 23, 2019, 9:53 pm

>127 thornton37814: Thank you, Lori.

>128 drneutron: Thanks Jim.

>129 Berly: That's not a bad total Kimmers.
Kyran does seem so far away at the moment as a time when I need to pull him close and give him a hug.

134PaulCranswick
Mar 23, 2019, 9:55 pm

On another matter I have to say thank you to all who have visited and posted here this year as I have lumbered past 1,000 posts.

Slowest I have ever done it but I am happy at the moment with my pace around the threads.

135PaulCranswick
Mar 24, 2019, 9:00 am

Today we spent time with the mother of Kyran's best friend who passed away yesterday after a fall from a hotel car park in Kuala Lumpur. The police have arrested three boys but we still don't really know what happened.

He was such a lovely and loving boy and we are all devastated.



DHEA KAMARUDIN, wonderful young man, we will dearly miss you.

136Caroline_McElwee
Edited: Mar 24, 2019, 9:12 am

>135 PaulCranswick: I'm sure Dhea's family appreciated your care and kindness Paul. A very sad time for everyone.

137PaulCranswick
Mar 24, 2019, 9:24 am

>136 Caroline_McElwee: Caroline, his mum was pretty stunned but I think most troubled by not knowing what happened. She prepared the body for burial yesterday evening and said that the poor boy was unrecognisable. I took SWMBO and three of her friends (also mums of Dhea's friends) and we all sat around her dining table reminiscing about the children and being tearful.

138Caroline_McElwee
Mar 24, 2019, 1:10 pm

That must be incredibly difficult to do Paul. Poor woman. I hope they get at the truth of the matter.

139johnsimpson
Mar 24, 2019, 5:48 pm

Hi Paul, I wish you and Hani a belated happy 23rd wedding anniversary mate and am so sorry to hear about the death of Kyran's friend, no wonder the poor lad is devastated. I hope that the police get to the bottom of things and find out what actually happened.

Sending love and hugs to both of you mate.

140vancouverdeb
Mar 24, 2019, 6:56 pm

A belated Happy 23 Anniversary, Paul and Hani. I am so sorry about the passing of Kryan's dear friend. What a shocking thing to happen. So tragic. I can't imagine being his mom , and having to prepare his body for burial , after a fall. I hope that the police can get to the bottom of it.

141PaulCranswick
Mar 24, 2019, 7:01 pm

>138 Caroline_McElwee: I hope so too, Caroline.

>139 johnsimpson: Thanks John. Give our love to Karen.

142PaulCranswick
Mar 24, 2019, 7:03 pm

>140 vancouverdeb: There is always the chilling feeling of "what if it was me?". I don't think I could survive such a thing happening to our family.

143vancouverdeb
Mar 24, 2019, 7:06 pm

I know what you mean, Paul. A more distant friend of our lost their son about a year ago in a car crash. He was out hunting with a friend, and somehow the car went off the road. The young man died instantly. The family had two young adult sons, just like we do . I can't imagine how they carried on , but they have. The young man was also married , for just over a year and left behind a young widow of age 26. It's hard to take it all in.

144PaulCranswick
Mar 24, 2019, 7:24 pm

>143 vancouverdeb: These things do tend towards you pulling your family closer, Deb. We cannot preserve and protect them all the time and the world is a brutishly tough place to make your way through.

145Familyhistorian
Mar 25, 2019, 2:09 am

Life can be good and bad at the same time. So sorry to hear about Kryan's friend. So young for that young man to be taken. Congratulations on your anniversary, Paul. May you have many more. You have been very lucky to have not lost any of your friends by this time in your life and to have your parents around too.

146amanda4242
Mar 25, 2019, 2:19 am

{{{hugs}}}

147jnwelch
Mar 25, 2019, 8:45 am

Oh man. So sorry to hear about Kyran's friend, Paul. What a terrible thing to happen.

148SirThomas
Mar 25, 2019, 12:28 pm

So sorry to hear this, I can't say more than we think of you.

149PaulCranswick
Mar 25, 2019, 2:51 pm

>145 Familyhistorian: I do count my blessings, Meg.

>146 amanda4242: Thank you Amanda. xx

150PaulCranswick
Mar 25, 2019, 2:53 pm

>147 jnwelch: Yes Joe, I also knew two of the three boys held by the police for questioning about the incident. They have now been released and to be honest we are no nearer really knowing what happened to Dhea.

>148 SirThomas: Thank you Thomas. This group is always a source of consolation to me. You are a wonderful bunch!

151m.belljackson
Mar 25, 2019, 3:53 pm

You said that Dhea's Mother was a single Mom - does she have other children?

152PaulCranswick
Mar 25, 2019, 4:51 pm

>151 m.belljackson: Yes, she has a daughter and two step children as she has subsequently remarried.

153PaulCranswick
Edited: Mar 31, 2019, 9:23 pm

Book #16 in 2019



A Place of Execution by Val McDermid

Date of Publication : 1999 (16 of 120)
Origin of Author : UK
BIAC Challenge March 2019
Pages : 603 (4,520 in total)

First thing I have read by McDermid and it won't be the last.

Top notch mystery/crime novel about a missing girl in Derbyshire and an ambitiously dedicated young police detective.

154ChelleBearss
Mar 26, 2019, 2:18 am

So sorry to see of your family's loss of a friend. I hope you all are doing ok.

155PaulCranswick
Mar 26, 2019, 5:23 am

>154 ChelleBearss: Struggling a little if truth be known, Chelle. Daresay we'll get through the other side wiser but by no means happier.

156richardderus
Mar 26, 2019, 1:22 pm

I can breathe out of both nostrils! I haven't hacked a lung up yet! AND I can almost hear without greatly increasing the volume! Oh yay, I'm well.

Still not going outside. The temptation is great...50° and sunshiney...but the word "relapse" cycles through my brain as I put on socks, and everything stops for tea as the old song has it.

157kidzdoc
Mar 26, 2019, 3:39 pm

I'm very sorry to hear about Dhea's sudden death, Paul. May God bless and protect his family, and Kyran.

158PaulCranswick
Mar 26, 2019, 6:22 pm

>156 richardderus: Glad to hear you are, erm, almost back to normal RD!

>157 kidzdoc: Thank you Darryl.

159torontoc
Mar 27, 2019, 9:19 am

I am sorry to hear the news of your son's friend's death- take care,

160thornton37814
Mar 27, 2019, 9:30 am

>153 PaulCranswick: I'm always torn about whether or not I'll like McDermid. I need to just give in and try something.

161figsfromthistle
Mar 27, 2019, 2:02 pm

I've been away for a while. It looks like I've missed a lot here!

First, congratulations on 23 years marriage. Secondly, I am so sorry to hear about Kyran's friend.

Sending hugs your way

162PaulCranswick
Mar 27, 2019, 6:52 pm

>159 torontoc: Dhea's stepfather is blaming all the boy's who accompanied him to the party. Kyran feels so sorry but they were all collectively responsible (as was Dhea) for whatever they took at the party (apparently cocaine and ecstacy). Kyran thank heaven doesn't like going out with them to parties and would invariably stay home while they went out - I think I can guess why now.

Dhea was a lovely boy and one of the entrapments of youth is the need to try things when we believe ourselves immortal. We have, most of us, done silly things (although drugs, recreational or otherwise never called me - I have never even tried to smoke a cigarette!) and I had my stomach pumped in my teens after a fight with a bottle of whisky that I lost. We usually get away with those foibles and live to tell the tale. Dhea didn't, poor lad.

>160 thornton37814: I thought she would have been darker and that there would be more violence. It was actually very character driven.

163PaulCranswick
Mar 27, 2019, 6:56 pm

>161 figsfromthistle: Lovely to see you Anita.

23 years - I pointed out that the Great Train Robbers mostly only got 20 years (not even the flicker of a smile). Parts of it have been tough, most of it has been wonderful. 3 extraordinary children and a million memories. I don't know what the future holds for the two of us but her smile still lights up my life and her frown still torments my being.

164bell7
Mar 27, 2019, 9:41 pm

Happy (belated) Anniversary, Paul!

Oh, and so sorry to hear about Kyran's friend. Whatever the cause, something like that just rocks your world/community for a time.

165PaulCranswick
Mar 28, 2019, 4:29 am

>165 PaulCranswick: Yes it does, indeed, Mary. xx

166thornton37814
Mar 28, 2019, 8:12 am

>162 PaulCranswick: I think I'll try that one which I believe is a stand-alone before I try one of the series.

167kidzdoc
Edited: Mar 28, 2019, 10:39 am

>162 PaulCranswick: What happened to Dhea is sadly not all that uncommon, Paul. Unintentional injuries such as drug and alcohol overdoses, swimming and diving accidents, shootings, motor vehicle crashes and falls are the cause of death for just over 40% of young people 15-24 years of age in the US, and a significant number of survivors of these accidents are left with serious and/or permanent injuries. The children's hospital I work in contains a 28 bed Comprehensive Inpatient Rehabiliation Unit, which is mainly filled with teenaged survivors of these accidents. When the hospital is full some of the patients on the General Pediatrics service are admitted there, as the CIRU is more likely to have open beds than any place else, and when I see my patients there I also see these poor accident survivors. The parents routinely post photos of their children as they were before the accidents that nearly claimed their lives, which serves as a wish that the kids will return to their former selves, but also a reminder of what was lost and may never be regained.

168BekkaJo
Mar 28, 2019, 3:07 pm

Checking in. Will be giving my two extra huggles tonight.

Love to your family, and to help Dhea's through this.

169PaulCranswick
Mar 28, 2019, 11:46 pm

>166 thornton37814: I think you mean >153 PaulCranswick: Lori? Yes, it is a stand-alone and a pretty good one too.

>167 kidzdoc: That is seriously worrying, Darryl, that the percentage of premature death amongst that age-group is due to such misadventures.

170PaulCranswick
Mar 28, 2019, 11:46 pm

>168 BekkaJo: Thank you, Bekka. Huggles' are always welcome.

171thornton37814
Mar 29, 2019, 9:09 am

>169 PaulCranswick: Yes, but I was just replying to your response so I just used that number rather than looking up the original post again.

172PaulCranswick
Mar 29, 2019, 10:28 pm

173benitastrnad
Edited: Mar 29, 2019, 11:04 pm

I am currently reading a very good book about British India under the East India Company. It is Empire Made: My Search for an Outlaw Uncle in British India by Kief Hillsbery. It turns out to be a kind of history of the EIC from 1840 to 1870. It also turns out that not every British person in India was an asshat. I had heard about people like Henry Lawrence, and John Nicholson and they both appear in this book. They are not the Outlaw Uncle, but the Outlaw Uncle worked for and with them. This one is going to be on my Best Books list or next year.

174PaulCranswick
Mar 30, 2019, 6:10 am

>173 benitastrnad: Sounds like one worth looking for, Benita.

175PaulCranswick
Mar 30, 2019, 9:02 am

Some book therapy:

53. Tales of Long Ago by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
54. The Dream Woman by Wilkie Collins
55. The Suitcase by Sergei Dovlatov
56. The Red Notebook by Benjamin Constant
57. Colonel Chabert by Honore de Balzac
58. Bridge to Terabithia by Katherine Paterson
59. The Last Day of a Condemned Man by Victor Hugo
60. Pantagruel and Gargantua by Francois Rabelais
61. Just William by Richmal Crompton
62. Journey by Moonlight by Antal Szerb
63. Genghis Khan and the Quest for God by Jack Weatherford

176PaulCranswick
Edited: Mar 30, 2019, 11:39 am



177Ameise1
Mar 30, 2019, 5:50 pm

I'm very sorry to read about your son's friend. My thoughts are with you and yours.

178SandDune
Mar 30, 2019, 7:37 pm

So sorry to hear about Kyran’s friend, Paul.

Is Just William a reread? It’s so funny!

179PaulCranswick
Mar 30, 2019, 7:54 pm

>177 Ameise1: Thank you, Barbara.

>178 SandDune: Thanks Rhian, I think the police have determined that the death of Dhea was due to misadventure rather than malice. We all need to ensure that we drum into the children as they "mature" that they should not ingest anything to their bodies whose consequence is undetermined. Peer pressure, keeness to try something, depression or whatever it is vital that our kids realise the dangers.

I haven't read Just William before but am straight into it and enjoying it too.

180PaulCranswick
Edited: Apr 5, 2019, 3:52 am

Book #17 in 2019



Just William by Richmal Crompton

Date of Publication : 1922 (17 of 120)
Origin of Author : UK
Pages : 322 (4,842 in total)

In September I am 53 years old.

Cannot believe I got to this age of mature childhood without Just William.

Gobbled it up greedily yesterday with smirks and guffaws aplenty whilst remembering my own pre-teen halcyon days of scrapes and japes and near escapes.

Heartily recommended to any world weary chump who wants to sink lovingly back into childhood for a few blissful hours.

181PaulCranswick
Mar 31, 2019, 9:54 pm

Failed to meet my reading goals again this month.

Finished the first quarter of the year with a mere 17 books read which continues a very worrying trend for me over the last 5 years (which have been personally tough times).

Reading record in the last 5 years:

First Quarter

2014 39 books
2015 36 books
2016 30 books
2017 25 books
2018 22 books
2019 17 books

On the flip side I felt my reading mojo returning a bit this last month and I am positive about a much better next quarter.

182thornton37814
Mar 31, 2019, 10:21 pm

>181 PaulCranswick: Hope the mojo continues!

183PaulCranswick
Edited: Mar 31, 2019, 10:57 pm

Reading Plan for April

BIAC - The Boy in the Striped Pyjamas by John Boyne (2006)
BIAC - The Echoing Grove by Rosamund Lehmann (1953)
AAC - Sing, Unburied, Sing by Jesmyn Ward (2017)

To finish

The War With Newts by Karel Capek (Czechia) 1936
Petersburg by Andrei Bely (Russia) 1916
The Late Monsieur Gallet by Georges Simenon (Belgium) (1931)
Came a Hot Friday by Ronald Hugh Morrieson (New Zealand) 1964
Misspent Youth by Peter F. Hamilton (BIAC) (2002)
The Good Companions by J.B. Priestley (1929)

also

The Earth of Mankind by Pramoedya Anata Toer Indonesia (1975)
The Tunnel by Ernesto Sabato (Argentina) (1948)
Nervous Conditions by Tsitsi Dangarembga (Zimbabwe) (1988)

Realistic, I think.

184PaulCranswick
Mar 31, 2019, 10:58 pm

>182 thornton37814: Lori, I am more positive about my reading at the moment than for quite a long time so I am pretty confident that my stats are going to improve.

185Berly
Apr 1, 2019, 3:17 am

Paul--Here's to good reading mojo and so happy to see you back here posting!! The good thing about setting the reading bar low recently is your stats will have an easier time going up.

186scaifea
Apr 1, 2019, 6:37 am

>183 PaulCranswick: Oooh, The Boy in the Striped Pajamas is So. Good. I hope you love it.

187PaulCranswick
Apr 1, 2019, 11:41 am

>185 Berly: I am still optimistic about my reading challenges this year, Kimmers, despite my slow start.

>186 scaifea: I was surprised to read that one Rabbi had criticised the book for its historical inaccuracy but I hardly think that is the point. We are considering the innocence of youth and through those unknowing eyes we see the full enormity, horror and depravity of the holocaust is revealed.

As I read his objections seemed to be that it was inaccurate that young boys were left alive in Auschwitz. Sorry Rabbi but that is simply historically inaccurate and secondly that nobody living close to the Death Camps could have been unaware of the purpose of the place. Sorry Rabbi but I remember being a young boy and the complexities of the world was unrevealed to me. Read it properly the author was not excusing the German public for an alleged lack of knowledge of the holocaust - it has rather the opposite impact as you clearly sense that the grown-ups knew well.

I think his real objection was that such a sensitive book was not written by someone of the Jewish faith. But isn't that the point of remembering that people of all faiths and creeds and ethnicities share in the outrage of what was done?

188m.belljackson
Apr 1, 2019, 2:48 pm

Paul - here's a great one for your New Music (and Poetry?!!!?) AEC Fan -

from The Kennedy Center a few nights ago:

YouTube =

Roscoe Mitchell and Moor Mother - Millennium Stage (March 28, 2019).

Takes both poetry and music to some different and amazing levels.

189PaulCranswick
Apr 1, 2019, 6:17 pm

>188 m.belljackson: I'll go and have a look at Roscoe, Marianne. xx

190scaifea
Apr 2, 2019, 5:30 am

>187 PaulCranswick: Excellent points against the Rabbi's claims, Paul. And I agree that it's not surprising that such a powerful book has had some backlash.

191msf59
Apr 2, 2019, 6:39 am

Hey, Paul. How are things going on the other side of the world? We are still waiting for springtime here. Have you read Jesmyn Ward yet? If not, you are in for a treat.

192PaulCranswick
Apr 2, 2019, 7:37 pm

>190 scaifea: It is only the horror of the majority which ensures that that historical atrocities are not repeated.

>191 msf59: Things are tropical mate! I haven't read Jesmyn Ward yet, so I'm looking forward to it.

193ronincats
Apr 4, 2019, 12:59 am

(((Paul)))

194PaulCranswick
Apr 4, 2019, 1:33 am

>193 ronincats: Thanks Roni; I will cherish your hugs.

195ronincats
Apr 4, 2019, 1:34 am

B>D

196PaulCranswick
Apr 4, 2019, 1:47 am

>195 ronincats: And your big, big smiles. xx

197Caroline_McElwee
Apr 4, 2019, 5:47 am

>181 PaulCranswick: Glad you are beginnng to get your reading mojo back again Paul.

198BLBera
Apr 4, 2019, 7:12 am

Great April reading plans, Paul. I just finished a reread of Sing, Unburied, Sing with my class. I love that book.

199karenmarie
Apr 4, 2019, 8:53 am

Hi Paul!

>98 PaulCranswick: Back to your list - I’ve read 7, abandoned 2, and read other books by 10 of your authors. For me 2017 was simple as I was absolutely gobsmacked by Lincoln in the Bardo. Never a doubt in my mind. 2018 is still open. Here are the books I’ve read that were published in 2018. Good books all, but not list-worthy.

Fire and Fury by Michael Wolff
The Hounds of Spring by Lucy Andrews Cummin
Calypso by David Sedaris
Lethal White by Robert Galbraith
The Outsider by Stephen King
Kingdom of the Blind by Louise Penny
Barracoon by Zora Neale Hurston
The Day of the Dead by Nicci French
Past Tense by Lee Child
Blackbeard's Sunken Treasure by Mark U. Wilde-Ramsing

I tried to read Plainsong after reading A Thousand Acres by Jane Smiley and it seemed similar enough that it couldn’t compare to me. It may have been timing.

>110 PaulCranswick: Belated Happy Anniversary.

>111 PaulCranswick: and subsequent. Oh my, I am so sorry about Kyran’s best friend Dhea. How awful. I’m glad that he’s getting help and talking with you and Yasmyne. Your visit with Dhea’s mum must have been devastating. And 3 boys arrested and then released... and drugs were involved. So tragic.

>142 PaulCranswick: That’s how I feel about Jenna – I don’t think I could survive.

>153 PaulCranswick: I’ve read one by Val McDermid and have others on my shelves.

I’m glad to hear that your reading mojo has returned and hope that you have a stupendous April.



200PaulCranswick
Apr 4, 2019, 7:15 pm

>197 Caroline_McElwee: Slowly, Caroline, slowly. xx

>198 BLBera: It has so many admirers that I can hardly wait, Beth.

201PaulCranswick
Apr 4, 2019, 7:16 pm

>199 karenmarie: I am surprised you had so much trouble with Plainsong, Karen.

202Familyhistorian
Apr 5, 2019, 1:40 am

Good to see that you feeling your reading mojo coming back, Paul.

203PaulCranswick
Apr 5, 2019, 3:29 am

>203 PaulCranswick: Well indeed, Meg. And I have two books to report for April already.

204PaulCranswick
Apr 5, 2019, 4:00 am

Book #18 of 2019


The Boy in the Striped Pyjamas by John Boyne

Date of Publication : 2006 (18 of 120)
Origin of Author : Irish
Pages : 212 (5,054 in total)
British Isles Author Challenge April 2019

A Holocaust story written by someone whose lineage was not directly impacted by the terrible events. Does that trouble me? No not really because the story itself is affecting, sensitive and universal.

Some have criticised this for its naivety and for portraying a lack of knowledge of what was happening amongst the German populace. Well firstly the innocence and naivety of childhood is part of the point of the story and secondly I don't agree that Boyne allows us to think that the Germans didn't know. The Grandmother knew, the maid knew, the parents knew but the boy of nine didn't comprehend.

There was a truthfulness about the story that, despite its obvious artistic licenses, tells an important story with conviction and candour.

Recommended.

205PaulCranswick
Edited: Apr 22, 2019, 1:30 pm

Book #19



The War with the Newts by Karel Capek

Date of Publication : 1936 (19 of 120)
Origin of Author : Czech ( 11 of 80)
Pages : 348 (5,402 in total)

Political satire was a dangerous thing in 1936 and Capek's critique of the failure of modern forms of government - both Marxism as well as Fascism is not even thinly veiled here.

In short a race of intelligent sea creatures are discovered in the Indonesian islands (yikes, I've visited of few of those) and are exploited. As their numbers increase the exploited wish to become the exploiters.

Still vividly relevant today.

206sirfurboy
Apr 5, 2019, 12:02 pm

>204 PaulCranswick: Yes, a great story. The boy's innocence is essential to the telling, but I suppose that realistically you might argue that while the boy does not know what is going on, he would very likely have unconsciously picked up certain attitudes. Making it more realistic on that score would have made it a less powerful story though.

207PaulCranswick
Apr 5, 2019, 12:26 pm

>206 sirfurboy: If you remember the detail Sir F, the scene in Brunos kitchen when he is almost biblically asked to confirm his knowledge of his friend, is I think very effective in showing how people were cowed.

208m.belljackson
Edited: Apr 5, 2019, 2:21 pm

>205 PaulCranswick:

The only book I've read by Karel Capek is The Gardener's Year for 5 STARS. Just lovely and funny.

Mr. Capek would have enjoyed my exchange in the grocery parking lot yesterday
after I complimented the guy with a nearby truck on his "Import Immigrants
Export Trump" bumper sticker.

He said he'd already had one torn off and that, after Tuesday's right wing judge election,
Wisconsin was turning into a fascist state. Amazing what the world has learned to tolerate.

209benitastrnad
Apr 5, 2019, 1:30 pm

I finished listening to Empire Made and it is on my Best of 2019 list. Very well done. The author manages the trick of going back and forth in time and making both parts relevant to the story. So much history of the Northwest Frontier states and the background of modern Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Nepal. It is worth trying to find and reading.

210sirfurboy
Apr 5, 2019, 4:35 pm

>207 PaulCranswick: Ah yes, quite right. It has been a while since I read it.

211PaulCranswick
Apr 5, 2019, 7:14 pm

>208 m.belljackson: Capek's work was on the cusp of the World War was prescient then and is relevant today. DAESH could be the newts for example.

Wrote with wit, wisdom and acerbity - wonder what he would have made of America's regressiion under Trump.

>209 benitastrnad: I will indeed do so Benita. xx

212PaulCranswick
Apr 5, 2019, 7:16 pm

>210 sirfurboy: It is the second book I have read by Doyle, Sir F, after The Thief of Time whose premise was better ultimately than its execution. I thought he got The Boy in the Striped Pyjamas just about spot on.

213SandDune
Apr 6, 2019, 2:39 am

>205 PaulCranswick: I’ve got War with the Newts on the TBR shelf - I must get around to it sometime soon.

214PaulCranswick
Apr 6, 2019, 4:13 am

>213 SandDune: The overall effect is good, Rhian. Pitted against man I can see the abyss as Capek in his still jaunty way could in 1936.

215LovingLit
Apr 6, 2019, 5:27 am

>162 PaulCranswick: How devastating. Blame is such a hard thing to resist, it would take a stronger person than me to avoid that, at least as a first step in grieving.

>204 PaulCranswick: A lovely summary of the book. I read it recently, and it did irk me a tad, but the saving grace was the glimpses into the mind of a child, his innocence and naivety was refreshing.

216PaulCranswick
Apr 6, 2019, 6:10 am

>215 LovingLit:

Re >162 PaulCranswick: I don't know how I would handle it, Megan. Most likely I couldn't handle it.

>204 PaulCranswick: I don't want to spoil the plot for anyone who hasn't read the book but I do feel that if the story was closer to the truth, Bruno's uncircumcised state may have occasioned comment.

217johnsimpson
Apr 6, 2019, 3:28 pm

Hi Paul, hope all is well with you mate and the family. I know that you are already into Sunday so I hope the weekend is good for you, we are both ok although Karen has a cold at the moment but hopefully it has reached its peak and she should be fine in a couple of days.

Enjoy the rest of your weekend and sending love and hugs to you all mate.

218Morphidae
Apr 6, 2019, 4:08 pm

>60 PaulCranswick: I've read 12 3/4 books. ( I got most of the way through Wolf Hall and couldn't handle the writing style anymore. It's the first time I've gotten that far in a book and quit.) I'm also considering adding a similar list to my own thread.

Also, when's your birthday? Looks like you are just a tad younger than I.

>81 PaulCranswick: I've read three of those and didn't rate them too badly: A Fine Balance 7/10, Half of a Yellow Sun 6/10, Plainsong 7/10. I'm thinking of reading more by Kent Haruf.

>110 PaulCranswick: Happy (belated) anniversary! How are you two doing? I know you struggled for awhile recently. Have you patched things up or are they still rough?

>111 PaulCranswick: I don't have words. I'm so sorry. I didn't have a personal understanding of grief until recently when I had a few losses in a row. I hope Kyran is doing a little better at this point and is getting the support he needs.

>178 SandDune: I really liked Bridge to Terabithia and gave it 8/10 stars.

>204 PaulCranswick: Added to Mount TBR.

219PaulCranswick
Apr 6, 2019, 9:10 pm

>217 johnsimpson: Lovely to see you, John. Hope Karen is A-OK very soon.

>218 Morphidae: I'm 53 on 2 September, Morphy.

Things are still a bit tough, I think that a move in the near future back to the UK may help us get back to where we once were - well almost anyway.
I am happy enough to give up the two projects here in Kuala Lumpur that I am assisting the Koreans with if it helps things between us.

He is coping (Kyran) and the dear boy calls Dhea's mum on an almost daily basis. He has a heart so much like his mothers. He has another friend from Malaysia just visiting him in Portsmouth which is great therapy for both of them.

Lovely to see one of my favourite back around the threads. xx

220vancouverdeb
Apr 6, 2019, 10:27 pm

Oh, you youngster, you, Paul. I hope that you can soon make the move to UK. Easier said than done, a big move with your work. I confess I've never read Wolf Hall . Some books just don't call to me. Or at least not right now.

221PaulCranswick
Apr 6, 2019, 11:11 pm

>220 vancouverdeb: I am still a wee slip of a boy, Deb!

I liked Wolf Hall to be honest but I thought her book A Place of Greater Safety a far better book.

222PaulCranswick
Apr 7, 2019, 2:09 pm

Managed a fair few threads today for the first time in a good while.

223Morphidae
Apr 7, 2019, 2:26 pm

>219 PaulCranswick: I’m sorry to hear you two are still wobbly and hope to hear news of your move soon! My 54th will be in June so I’m 15 months older.

224PaulCranswick
Apr 7, 2019, 2:52 pm

>223 Morphidae: We'll get there, Morphy, because the love hasn't abated and we are still able to make each other laugh. I don't know anyone in the world with a bigger heart than Hani.

225FAMeulstee
Apr 7, 2019, 6:08 pm

>219 PaulCranswick: >223 Morphidae: Already 56... I feel old ;-)

226EllaTim
Apr 7, 2019, 6:22 pm

I was sorry to hear about the death of Kyran's friend, Paul. It's very good of him to call his friends mother so often. It must be so difficult for her, losing a son so young.

>225 FAMeulstee: I'm older;-)

227PaulCranswick
Apr 7, 2019, 7:19 pm

>225 FAMeulstee: It really is just a number, Anita.

>226 EllaTim: Yes it is so difficult for her Ella. Poor lady looks positively haunted.

228kidzdoc
Apr 7, 2019, 7:47 pm

Sigh. This newly turned 58 year old youth wishes that the youngins would stop complaining about their not so advanced ages.😎

229PaulCranswick
Apr 7, 2019, 8:52 pm

>228 kidzdoc: You look good despite all those Gator Tails, Darryl (or possibly because of)!

230Morphidae
Apr 7, 2019, 9:07 pm

We all need to be very quiet here. MrMorphy hits the big 6-0 this November. No more complaining! Shhhhh...

231kidzdoc
Apr 7, 2019, 9:14 pm

>229 PaulCranswick: I give full credit to eating alligator, which has almost no fat. I’m already finished with my second batch of alligator sauce piquante, after sharing half of it with my barber, one of my partners, and the senior pediatric resident who worked alongside me for two weeks last month and make my workdays much more bearable (all of them loved it). I did buy two more frozen alligator fillets, and I’ll probably try the alligator with white beans recipe that Jim shared with me earlier this year.

232laytonwoman3rd
Apr 7, 2019, 9:37 pm

>230 Morphidae: Well, if this is an AGE contest....*shakes an increasingly white head of hair*

233ronincats
Apr 7, 2019, 10:12 pm

>230 Morphidae: No sympathy, I'm a decade further along, Morphy!

234banjo123
Apr 7, 2019, 11:44 pm

Hi Paul! I am also feeling behind on my reading this year, but I try to concentrate on the books that I HAVE read and enjoyed.

And I hit 60 last November. I am trying to focus on the wisdom and maturity gained through those years.

235PaulCranswick
Apr 8, 2019, 6:22 am

>230 Morphidae: Well I won't tell anyone, Morphy. xx

>231 kidzdoc: I must look to include it as part of my calorie controlled diet. Certainly not available in the stores locally.

236PaulCranswick
Apr 8, 2019, 6:23 am

>232 laytonwoman3rd: No contest because I'm not overly keen for any of us to get to the finish line yet.

>233 ronincats: I am a mere stripling, Roni, it is obvious.

237PaulCranswick
Apr 8, 2019, 6:24 am

>234 banjo123: Wisdom and maturity gained through the years - mine must have been on a slow drip, Rhonda.

238bell7
Apr 8, 2019, 2:58 pm

Hiya, Paul, just checking in and seeing how the start to your week is going.

I am still one of the young'uns in this group, since I'm in my 30s ;)

239kidzdoc
Apr 8, 2019, 3:51 pm

>235 PaulCranswick: Alligator meat would be very hard to find in most of the US, especially outside of the Deep South. I’d be very surprised to find it anywhere in Philadelphia, unless there was a Cajun meat market in the city; I haven’t found crawfish up there. There is a Cajun meat market just outside of Atlanta, and I’ll bet the farmers’ markets east of the city routinely offer it as well.

240PaulCranswick
Apr 8, 2019, 6:55 pm

>238 bell7: And I thought that I was the baby, Mary!

>239 kidzdoc: Singapore does have crocodile in certain restaurants but I haven't seen it in any of the shops although I would guess that some Chinese shops do have some.

241thornton37814
Apr 9, 2019, 8:06 am

>239 kidzdoc: I suspect Jungle Jim's in Fairfield, Ohio, just north of Cincinnati, has alligator. They have "exotic" foods from all around the world.

242kidzdoc
Edited: Apr 9, 2019, 8:45 am

>241 thornton37814: Nice. I wouldn’t be completely blown away if there was a specialty meat market in Philadelphia that sold alligator meat, but since it’s mainly, if not solely, a Cajun specialty I think I’d have to search long and hard for it. I would faint if I saw it in one of the major supermarket chains in the Delaware Valley.

Are there Publix supermarkets in your area? If so, do they sell alligator meat in the frozen seafood section, as mine do? I can get frozen crawfish tails to make crawfish étouffée from the Walmart super store close to Emory’s campus, but I haven’t found them in the supermarkets in Midtown Atlanta, although all of them offer frozen whole crawdads. A new Whole Foods Market, the largest one in the Southeast and the largest supermarket I’ve ever seen, just opened on Friday. It’s now my closest supermarket, as I can walk there, and I’ll probably pay a visit on Sunday and check out the seafood section, in particular.

243thornton37814
Apr 9, 2019, 9:01 am

>242 kidzdoc: Publix recently entered the Knoxville area, but that's an hour away so I don't grocery shop there. Food City, Ingles, and Walmart are the main grocers in Morristown with Aldi and PriceLe$$ also in the market. (I've never been to PriceLe$$.) Knoxville has Food City, Kroger, Whole Foods, Fresh Market, Publix, and probably a bunch of others. I stop in at Fresh Market occasionally when I'm there.

244kidzdoc
Apr 9, 2019, 9:49 am

>243 thornton37814: Ah. I didn’t realize that you were an hour away from Knoxville, Lori. There are numerous Ingles supermarkets in North Georgia, but all of them are well outside of Atlanta, with the closest one being in Stone Mountain, and the closest Food City to me is in Dalton, 75 miles NW of Midtown. We do have one Walmart Intown and several others just outside of the city, and the same goes for Aldi. There is a Fresh Market two miles north of me, but I haven’t gone there yet.

245kidzdoc
Apr 9, 2019, 11:21 am

>240 PaulCranswick: Deb’s post about alligator in my thread reminded me that I did have crocodile once:

Several years ago Fliss (@flissp), Rachael (@FlossieT) and I had dinner in a pub in Cambridge after Fliss and I saw a Saturday matinée performance of a play in London. Fliss and I both had “croc and roo”, crocodile and kangaroo meat on sticks that was partially grilled then transferred to hot volcanic rocks for us to continue to cook to our liking, which was more interesting than good. The far more sensible Rachael ordered grilled cherry tomatoes and halloumi, and looked at us as if we had lost our minds when we ordered croc and roo and offered to share it with her.

246fairywings
Edited: Apr 9, 2019, 6:44 pm

>245 kidzdoc: Kangaroo's ok if it's cooked correctly, not something I can eat a lot of as it has quite a rich flavour to it, and I prefer white meat anyway, but croc is not something that I'm keen to try.

Since you've had both croc and alligator Darryl, did you notice a difference in the flavour?

247Berly
Apr 9, 2019, 7:31 pm

I have not tried "roo" and not sure I want to!! ; )

248kidzdoc
Apr 9, 2019, 8:12 pm

>246 fairywings: I agree; the kangaroo I had at The Geldart (http://www.the-geldart.co.uk) in Cambridge was quite rich, and unlike anything I've had before. I'd be willing to have it again.

I liked the crocodile less than the kangaroo, and considerably less than alligator tail that I can buy or order in Cajun restaurants in New Orleans and Atlanta. The gator I'm used to is far more tender and milder in flavor than that croc meat was.

249jnwelch
Apr 9, 2019, 8:21 pm

>248 kidzdoc: I don't know anyone else who could say what you just said there, Darryl. Kudos for being an adventurous eater!

250kidzdoc
Edited: Apr 9, 2019, 9:08 pm

>249 jnwelch: Thanks, Joe. I'll bet that Fliss has tried more unusual foods than I have, as she is a fearless eater and has traveled far more widely than I. IIRC she encouraged me to try the croc and roo when the three of us went to The Geldart, as it may have been one of the pub's nightly specials; I doubt that I would have done so otherwise. Rupert, Rachael's physician husband, is also a daring eater, save for his seafood allergy, and an outstanding cook, who has me beat by a mile. I'm sorry that I had to miss their Christmas party in Cambridge last year due to my mother's health crisis, but I'm far happier that I could be there for her and my father and spend Christmas with them.

Have you met Fliss? I'm thinking that you (and Paul) haven't yet, and I know that you haven't met Rachael.

251PaulCranswick
Apr 9, 2019, 10:17 pm

>241 thornton37814: Fairfield is therefore on my bucket list, Lori. I am fairly adventurous but there are certain foods that religiously I ought not to eat. For example I haven't eaten pork for 25 years.

>242 kidzdoc: I love going to some of the Supermarkets in the UK when we go back because the staples I adore there are so damned expensive over here. The cleanliness and good order of the stores generally also makes them so enticing.

252PaulCranswick
Apr 9, 2019, 10:20 pm

>243 thornton37814: Of those, Lori, we only have Aldi in the UK which is becoming increasingly popular. Over here none of those you mention have branches in Malaysia. I prefer the local markets to be quite honest.

>244 kidzdoc: Fascinating discourse on shopping Darryl! Hani would be hugely interested as she can always find an excuse to enjoy trying out a new store or a new mall.

253PaulCranswick
Apr 9, 2019, 10:24 pm

>245 kidzdoc: I really wouldn't have thought that "croc and roo" would have been something available to you in Cambridge! I am very fond of haloumi though.

>246 fairywings: Some of my other Australian friends speak up for the joys of eating Kangaroo (I wonder if it puts a spring in your step).

254PaulCranswick
Apr 9, 2019, 10:28 pm

>247 Berly: Oh I think I would try it, Kimmers. I'm less sure about Gator but Hani has promised Darryl that she'll try it as soon as we manage a meet-up Stateside.

>248 kidzdoc: I suppose that there would be a difference between gator and croc but I'd certainly prefer to see either on my plate rather than in my swimming pool.

255PaulCranswick
Apr 9, 2019, 10:32 pm

>249 jnwelch: Darryl is as adventurous as he is travelled, Joe.

>250 kidzdoc: Enjoyed your company but once so far Darryl and enjoyed is certainly the right word. That warm afternoon in London was a lovely one indeed.

I haven't met Fliss or Rachael yet but maybe this year................

256Copperskye
Apr 9, 2019, 11:45 pm

Oh Paul, I’m just now seeing your tragic news of Kyran’s young friend. An unimaginable loss. I’m so sorry.

257thornton37814
Apr 10, 2019, 8:10 am

>252 PaulCranswick: I wish we'd go back to locally owned grocers and other stores. When I think back to my childhood years, the customer service at those establishments was far better than what we get from corporate America. I'm also tired of huge stores.

258Matke
Apr 10, 2019, 9:47 am

Please accept my condolences, love, and hugs on the loss of Kyran’s young friend. I’m so sorry.

>253 PaulCranswick: Oh, Paul; you’ve told a Dad Joke.

Fascinating lists of books in this thread. We share quite a few, I see. On make/female ratio, honestly that’s something I never think about.

259fairywings
Apr 10, 2019, 10:13 am

>253 PaulCranswick: Lol, it's high in iron so maybe that's where the spring comes from :)

260PaulCranswick
Apr 10, 2019, 6:16 pm

>256 Copperskye: Joanne, Kyran is coming out the other side due to hard work and having good friends around him there.

>257 thornton37814: We always used to get our daily groceries from the local corner shop but, when I go back to my home village, they've all gone.

261PaulCranswick
Apr 10, 2019, 6:30 pm

>258 Matke: Thank you Gail. I don't consciously choose books based on whether the writer is a man or a woman. I read more books by ladies than men last month and I didn't even realise that Richmal Crompton was a lady!

>259 fairywings: Adrienne, I am a little heavy handed when it comes to puns!

262thornton37814
Apr 10, 2019, 9:13 pm

>260 PaulCranswick: When I was small, there were little "corner markets" all over town. We had three slightly larger stores--Big Star, McCullens (downtown), and Sunflower. All of them had about 5 or 6 short aisles. McCullens had a wonderful butcher who wrapped the meat in butcher paper. We always purchased meat there. (My mom used to work there before she became a dietician. She was what was called a certified one. It was before the era of "registered dieticians.") Later a new shopping center came to town and sported an A & P. It seems like it became something else after that, but I can't remember what. It's a Piggly Wiggly now--and it has the best meat in town. Before Mom & Dad died, they got their meat there. The Sunflower didn't survive the bigger stores. I think Big Star is still there, but it moved and is larger.

263justchris
Apr 10, 2019, 9:49 pm

>219 PaulCranswick: I am sorry that your family is coping with various struggles and griefs. I hope that you are able to finagle the UK move this year and best wishes to you and Hani and your relationship. Sounds like despite the stress and tension of the present you have such a solid foundation of love and humor to keep you both going. And I am very sorry to hear about Kyran's friend. I didn't have to deal with the loss of a close friend until I was in my 30s or 40s, and it wasn't a sudden and unexpected tragedy but the result of a medical condition.

>222 PaulCranswick: Thanks for stopping by to say hello. I've been lurking in your thread since the beginning of the year but haven't found much to say.

As always, the conversation here is interesting and entertaining.

264richardderus
Apr 10, 2019, 9:58 pm

I bid fair to survive until I turn 60 in *mumble* months. Yay me.

265Familyhistorian
Apr 10, 2019, 10:12 pm

Such adventurous eaters! Not me, I prefer these exotic fare.

266justchris
Apr 10, 2019, 10:31 pm

>264 richardderus: I see I am one of the younguns here clocking in at 48. Congratulations on achieving a milestone this year (in unspecified months).

>265 Familyhistorian: I am definitely the adventurous eater in my family. Was rather disappointed this last weekend, staying with my teenage niece and nephew while my brother was out of town. They were completely uninterested in either my cooking dinner or taking them out to eat. They preferred to rely on making their own Kraft mac'n'cheese. The horror!

At least I managed to meet up for lunch with friends over the course of 3 days. I asked them to choose either a favorite restaurant or one that was new to them.

267LizzieD
Apr 10, 2019, 11:24 pm

Hi, Paul!!!
I am NOT an adventurous eater. I'm pretty thankful that I've never had the opportunity to become one. As to chain supermarkets, my little town does have an Aldi, and it's my main supplier. I went at first for the chocolate, added the cheap wine, am devoted to it for the fresher produce than any other store until the local farmers bring their produce to the farmers' market, and now use it for almost everything.
Hmmm. I've never eaten Kraft mac'n'cheese. Maybe I'm a foodie after all......

268BekkaJo
Apr 11, 2019, 8:11 am

Just popping in to wave. And possibly pick up some croc and roo on a stick. Love that idea!

269PaulCranswick
Apr 11, 2019, 7:01 pm

>262 thornton37814: The UK is blessed with Supermarkets these days if that is at all a suitable description. British retailers ASDA, TESCO, Sainsbury, Morrisons and Waitrose are all well represented especially ASDA and Morrisons in West Yorks where both hail from. We also have Cooperative stores (known as the Co-op) which are decreasing in popularity but still add diversity of choice and used to reward loyalty by the giving of redeemable stamps. ALDI and LIDL from Germany are starting to get market share as is a previously exclusive frozen food store who have diversified in ICELAND.

>263 justchris: There is love and humpur aplenty, Chris. We have always been able to make each other laugh. We have come through some tough times still together and what doesn't break you makes you stronger.

I told Kyran that I had not to deal with the loss of a close friend as he had. Amid his grief he was able to tell me - "I know Dad, you don't have any friends." Charmed I'm sure.

270PaulCranswick
Apr 11, 2019, 7:04 pm

>264 richardderus: I won't mumble it RD, when you turn the big 60 - I'll be among a small army screeching Happy Birthdays across the ether.

>265 Familyhistorian: "these exotic fare"? or "less exotic fare?" Meg??

271PaulCranswick
Apr 11, 2019, 7:08 pm

>266 justchris: A whipper-snapper! Kraft Mac n Cheese is adventurous in its rather depressing way. I couldn't eat that for sure!

>267 LizzieD: Chocolate, cheap plonk and fresh fruit and veg. Great combination Peggy, I'm sure. xx

272PaulCranswick
Apr 11, 2019, 7:08 pm

>268 BekkaJo: I don't have any roo on a stick, Bekka, but I am pleased you were still able to hop over here. xxx

273vancouverdeb
Apr 12, 2019, 12:32 am

What! No roo or gator or croc for me, but Kraft Mac and Cheese - a Canadian Classic! None of that homemade Mac and Cheese. Not that I've had Kraft Mac and Cheese for some years, but it was a family staple.

>299 DeltaQueen50: Oh Kyran. Out of the mouths of babes. I recall my brother losing his best friend to leukemia when my brother was just about 10 or 11. For some reason, my dad felt it was his job to impart this sorrow to my brother, rather than my mom. So my dad spoke privately with my brother and told him that " John has folded his tent." My brother had no idea what my dad meant , and sought out my mother to explain. My dad passed away at the relatively young age of 66 - cancer. I still miss his interesting take on the world and unique way of expressing himself.

274PaulCranswick
Apr 12, 2019, 11:35 am

>273 vancouverdeb: I haven't heard that phrase before, Deb, so I would probably have needed clarification on tent folding myself.

Kraft Mac n Cheese appeals......really?

275richardderus
Apr 12, 2019, 1:02 pm

Kraft mac'n'cheese is a cheap way to get full when you're poor. It's a step up from ramen. But it's not comfort food for me...more like "depressing defeat and unconditional surrender" food. Only kale, which smells like iguana farts and tastes the way clinical depression feels, is lower on my personal food web.

And I eat thousand-year eggs.

276quondame
Apr 12, 2019, 5:36 pm

>275 richardderus: It's a sort of fallback staple for my husband who did have to survive many unconditional surrenders early in life - he'd throw in frozen peas if he could and adding in tuna was a treat. We still have a flat in the back of the pantry and every now&then the unmistakable odor wafts through the house. I'll grate fresh cheese while the pasta's boiling rather than touch the stuff these days.

277PaulCranswick
Apr 12, 2019, 8:05 pm

>275 richardderus: I suppose in many ways the British version of this would be Baked Beans on Toast, RD. I do try to avoid processed food these days and the thought of Kraft Mac n Cheese makes me feel slightly bilious.

I had a girlfriend who liked to cook me soups filled with seaweed. She was sexy and cute but I knew it would never work out.

>276 quondame: I would as a student eat all sorts of things that I would avoid today, Susan. I am spoiled rotten by having Hani as a wife with her cooking enthusiasm and she doesn't let me anyway near the ready made meals sections of the supermarkets in the UK.

278scaifea
Apr 13, 2019, 8:15 am

Kraft Mac & Cheese, Ramen, and rice got me through grad school on a grad student stipend. So, yeah.

279karenmarie
Apr 13, 2019, 9:44 am

Hi Paul!

I hope you're having a good weekend so far.

280thornton37814
Apr 13, 2019, 11:03 am

I ate a lot of Kraft macaroni and cheese from middle school onwards. It was one of the things my nephew would eat. He didn't eat the real stuff. I generally make it from scratch nowadays. Kraft is cheaper, but I don't eat macaraoni and cheese often, and both versions make too much for a single person if you make a full recipe. I can cut the amount down by making my own, and it's tastier!

281laytonwoman3rd
Apr 13, 2019, 11:50 am

I'm getting really hungry for mac & cheese....why do you suppose that is? We haven't used the Kraft boxed stuff for years---since we started paying better attention to salt in our diet. And, of course, homemade stuff is Very Bad For You as well. But that risk I will take from time to time.

282witchyrichy
Apr 13, 2019, 12:15 pm

I better say hello on this thread before you start your next one!

283BekkaJo
Apr 13, 2019, 1:31 pm

>277 PaulCranswick: When I first got together with my (now) husband, he was living on beans on toast. Out of the bottom of his overdraft. In his case mostly because he's rubbish with money, but tbh a legitimate amount of fees vs rent issues.

Yet I still adore cold baked beans out of the tin out of the fridge...

Heinz of course.

284PaulCranswick
Apr 13, 2019, 2:19 pm

>278 scaifea: Eggs, chips (french fries) and beans was probably my equivalent, Amber.

>279 karenmarie: Thank you dear Karen.

285PaulCranswick
Apr 13, 2019, 2:23 pm

>280 thornton37814: I love pasta, Lori, but not simply with cheese. I often made my own ragu and still enjoy baking that with liberal quantities of cheese or making lasagne. I'm hungry already.

>281 laytonwoman3rd: Lasagne for me instead of mac n cheese, Linda, and now I'm pining for it too!

286PaulCranswick
Apr 13, 2019, 2:25 pm

>282 witchyrichy: Thanks Karen. Lovely to see you here.

>283 BekkaJo: I still take it from time to time, Bekka. The secret to it being enjoyable is to add lots of pepper and toast really good bread. Yes - beanz meanz Heinz.

287Caroline_McElwee
Apr 13, 2019, 2:56 pm

I do like beans on toast, it has to be said Paul. Well, I like most things on toast if I'm honest.

288quondame
Apr 13, 2019, 7:55 pm

>287 Caroline_McElwee: Toast with butter, good. Extra Sour Rye toast with butter, best.

289ocgreg34
Apr 13, 2019, 9:49 pm

Great list!

290Berly
Apr 13, 2019, 10:01 pm

Pasta! Did someone say pasta? I have never turned it down in any form. : )

291AMQS
Apr 13, 2019, 10:09 pm

Dear, dear Paul, I am very typically behind. I wanted to congratulate you and Hani on your wedding anniversary and express my horror and sympathy for your family and especially your dear boy on the loss of his friend. How awful.

292charl08
Apr 14, 2019, 2:38 am

Fried egg sandwich was my go to option. In fact, would quite like one now!

293msf59
Apr 14, 2019, 8:31 am

Hi, Paul. Just checking in with my favorite Brit buddy. I hope life is treating you well, along with those current reads.

294Carmenere
Apr 14, 2019, 8:50 am

Oh my goodness, I'm sorry to resurrect sad posts but I'm so sorry to read of Kyran's best friend. Devastating.

295m.belljackson
Apr 14, 2019, 11:10 am

Paul -

With the sad loss of Dhea, the frightening health challenges faced by Will, Linda, Deborah, and her husband,
as well as caring for the elderly cats loved by so many, it has been a tough start to a new year on LT.

Hope you and your Family all end up together soon!

296SandDune
Apr 14, 2019, 12:44 pm

>277 PaulCranswick: I had a girlfriend who liked to cook me soups filled with seaweed We've just returned from West Wales and had a wonderful starter consisting of cockles and laverbread (which is seaweed, basically) on toast with bits of bacon. Very Welsh! I've always liked cockles but been a bit iffy on laverbread previously, but this was delicious.

297richardderus
Apr 14, 2019, 1:11 pm

I Had To Have Kraft mac'n'cheese after this discussion. Made it exactly per box directions, added two all-beef Nathan's hot dogs, and tucked in.

I felt nineteen upon awakening from the stodge coma, much to my Young Gentleman Caller's delight.

298thornton37814
Apr 14, 2019, 1:16 pm

>297 richardderus: LOL, Richard! I saw in the grocery store after the discussion and passed it up! However, I did think of the discussion.

299DeltaQueen50
Apr 14, 2019, 4:10 pm

Hi Paul, I thought it was about time that I said "hello". I note the subject right now is Mac 'n Cheese - happy to report that I don't eat the stuff, although it is a staple in my granddaughter's life.

300kidzdoc
Apr 14, 2019, 5:43 pm

Gasp! No NO NO to Kraft Macaroni & Cheese!!!

301vancouverdeb
Apr 14, 2019, 6:58 pm

>300 kidzdoc: Darryl, as a kid, I loved Kraft Macaroni and cheese so much I once kissed a pot of that had boiling hot water and macaroni boiling in it :-) I was only about 4 years old. It was just a bit of kiss to the pot before I realized I had slightly burnt my lips - nothing bad. My mom was standing by and at first she gasped and then laughed once she saw that I was alright. She told me it's great that you love macaroni, but don't kiss the pot. My love for KD knew no bounds lol! That's the first and last time I ever kissed a pot. But now that I am older, it's rare thing that I would have mac and cheese in any form.

Paul, I'll be back to explain the folding your tent thing later on. Must get the dog out for a walk.

302PaulCranswick
Apr 14, 2019, 8:32 pm

>287 Caroline_McElwee: Me too, Caroline. I do like to spice the beans up a little bit by maybe adding curry or some such flavour.

>288 quondame: Good quality bread has to be toasted and served with good quality butter. I prefer marmalade to jam or honey.

303PaulCranswick
Apr 14, 2019, 8:53 pm

>289 ocgreg34: Thanks Greg.

>290 Berly: I took Belle and Hani plus one of Hani's good friends out to an Italian restaurant last night. I had fettucine in duck ragu, Belle had lasagne, Hani squid ink pasta and Hart (her friend) seafood risotto. Good pasta never fails to excite me.

304PaulCranswick
Apr 14, 2019, 8:57 pm

>291 AMQS: Thank you Anne. I saw one of the boys who had been held by the police following the death of Dhea. Poor lad looked so haunted and has probably aged 15 years in a couple of weeks.

>292 charl08: Here is an admission, Charlotte. I have never had a fried egg sandwich. I suppose it could be tasty on toasted bread with brown sauce.

305PaulCranswick
Apr 14, 2019, 9:00 pm

>293 msf59: Hi Mark! Bit disappointed with my reading this weekend to be honest as I finished nothing and managed to read very little.

>294 Carmenere: Thanks Lynda. My twin brother lost his father in law last week to a heart attack last week. Although I thought him a lovely chap it didn't affect me nearly so profoundly as Dhea's very untimely passing.

306PaulCranswick
Apr 14, 2019, 9:06 pm

>295 m.belljackson: It has indeed Marianne. This group always reaffirms my belief in the elemental goodness of man and woman. I was so lucky stumbling upon the 75ers in 2011.

>296 SandDune: I am sure that Hani would have loved that too, Rhian, although sans the bits of bacon (substituted with her wonderful turkey bacon, perhaps.) I would try it myself but it isn't a combination to excite my culinary juices, I fear.

307PaulCranswick
Apr 14, 2019, 9:11 pm

>297 richardderus: What a wonderfully alternate universe, RD, where stodge encourages youthfulness! I am glad it was of use dear fellow although I fear it may have had the opposite impact upon yours truly.

>298 thornton37814: I would have passed it up too, Lori. Hani once bought packet mash early in our time together. Mashed potatoes in a powder form that you mix with milk or hot water. We had serious words and I have never seen their ilk again. It is a good job that the discussion came so long ago as I fear my serious words would have less impact today!

308PaulCranswick
Apr 14, 2019, 9:14 pm

>299 DeltaQueen50: I don't eat it either Judy, but I did see one of those Master Chef programmes (Master Chef Australia - the best version of the franchise IMO) and famed chef Marco Pierre White (who hails from Leeds in my West Yorkshire) made his version of mac n cheese and it looked fantastic.

>300 kidzdoc: Agreed Doc.

>301 vancouverdeb: Nice story, Deb. It would have probably put me off the stuff for life!

309kidzdoc
Apr 14, 2019, 9:17 pm

>301 vancouverdeb: Yikes! Kraft should have put your photo on the cover of its Macaroni & Cheese boxes for showing its product so much love.

The vast majority of African Americans are extremely fussy and opinionated about what constitutes proper macaroni and cheese, as you’ll learn if you search YouTube. I’m definitely one of the extremely fussy ones, and even though the recipes we make will differ, there are some essential requirements: (1) it must be baked; (2) it must have at least two different types of cheese (the recipe I use, by the New Orleans chef Emeril Lagasse, calls for four cheeses); and, most importantly, (3) it absolutely cannot come from a box, especially if it’s to be served for Thanksgiving dinner. It could be argued that proper Mac & Cheese is the most important dish to be served at a traditional Thanksgiving for us, and Lord help anyone who messes it up. A guest for Thanksgiving at my parents’ house did just that in 2017, and last year she was asked to bring an apple pie and ice cream from Costco as a punishment; I was assigned the task of making macaroni and cheese for the first time, which is usually my father’s job, as he makes a mean one (although, if I can be immodest, I like the one by Emeril Lagasse that I make better).

>303 PaulCranswick: That meal sounds heavenly! I would have had a hard time deciding between those four dishes, but I probably would have chosen squid ink pasta. I adore a good paella negra (which is cooked in squid ink), although I’ve only had it in Spain.

310brenzi
Apr 14, 2019, 9:45 pm

Oh Paul I'm so sorry to hear of Karan's loss of his good friend. Just awful.

As far as grocery stores go I R.A. rely go anywhere except Wegmans. It's been my only store for years because it's the best grocery store in this area as well as many others. We have Aldi's and Whole Foods and Walmart ( which barely qualifies, IMO) and Tops which is only in New York State I think but Wegmans is by far the best.

Kraft MAC and Cheese? My kids loved it when they were growing up and my grandkids love it now but I wouldn't eat it myself.

311PaulCranswick
Apr 14, 2019, 9:49 pm

>309 kidzdoc: That is very interesting, Darryl, the importance of mac n cheese to the Thanksgiving diet.

Marco Pierre White who is one of my favourite chefs actually stated that, in his opinion, it was not a good idea to bake the dish as it tends to dry out the food and increase stodge.

He used packet pasta (said he wasn't a snob about the pasta as it was the cheese sauce that made the dish). He made a Bechamel sauce (equal parts flour and butter and then he added full fat milk), and added into it salt and cheeses (he used good mature cheddar and parmesan) and then double cream. He separately fried wild mushrooms and then combined with a touch of the pasta water. He advised if the packet said cook for 8 minutes he cooked for 7 and then for 1 minute in the pan mixing the mac and the cheese sauce. He added parsley to taste and it looked divine.

I love watching the girls eating squid ink pasta due to the colourful effect upon lips and teeth and tongue! The risotto was very good too, I would add and my duck ragu very satisfying.

312PaulCranswick
Apr 14, 2019, 9:55 pm

>310 brenzi: Lovely to see you Bonnie.

I noticed that there are three Wegmans supermarkets in and around Buffalo as I tried to visualise where you do your shopping.

I hadn't heard of the company but seemingly they are held in high esteem as reported in the Buffalo News:

https://buffalonews.com/2015/02/04/wegmans-ranks-as-best-in-nation-for-reputatio...

313kidzdoc
Apr 14, 2019, 10:33 pm

>311 PaulCranswick: 😱 No bake macaroni and cheese?! Absolutely not!!! Is he saying that baking it dries it out? If so, he isn’t making it right. Properly baked mac & cheese is wonderfully moist, with crunchy cheesy edges and tops, which you’ll miss entirely if it isn’t baked. Given your description his recipe is a hard pass for me.

Here’s a short video by a well known black comedian expressing his outrage about a particularly abysmal recipe for mac & cheese that appeared on the Food Network two Thanksgivings ago. Kevin is a bit over the top, but he’s spot on.

https://youtu.be/MbX0cbhxdzA

>312 PaulCranswick: Wegmans is almost always rated as the top supermarket chain in the US. We don’t have them in the Deep South, but some of us who live in major cities like Atlanta are fortunate to have three other top five chains, Publix, Trader Joe’s and Whole Foods.

314PaulCranswick
Apr 14, 2019, 10:45 pm

>313 kidzdoc: Hahaha I prefer baked pasta to be honest myself, Darryl. I wouldn't want to argue with Marco Pierre White though as he is a pretty intimidating character.

Wegmans looks like my kind of supermarket.

315quondame
Apr 15, 2019, 12:36 am

>309 kidzdoc: >311 PaulCranswick: >313 kidzdoc: I make a strong distinction between baked casserole M&C and stove top M&C. The may/can share most ingredients, but really, the goals are different. As I dislike white sauce, I put my cooked pasta in a skillet with lots of butter and throw cheeses at it until everything is well coated and eat with lots of fresh ground pepper. I don't know anyone else who does this, but it's my comfort food.

316PaulCranswick
Apr 15, 2019, 3:46 am

>315 quondame: Comfort food is something to be wondered at, Susan. I wouldn't eat either mac n cheese or cauliflower cheese but I well understand why someone may count it as their own comfort food.

Mine is probably chili con carne.

317laytonwoman3rd
Edited: Apr 15, 2019, 11:05 am

I have occasionally made a quick stove-top mac and cheese, (but not from a box in many many years) but Darryl is absolutely right about the baking---nothing compares to those crispy edges and buttery-crumb topping.
ETA: Can't believe how much mileage we're getting out of this subject!

318ChelleBearss
Apr 15, 2019, 12:45 pm

>308 PaulCranswick: Nate and I used to watch Masterchef Canada and Australia. We loved them compared to the American version as it was more about the cooking and a lot less fighting among the contestants

319thornton37814
Apr 15, 2019, 1:49 pm

>307 PaulCranswick: Potato flakes are the worst! I absolutely cannot stand instant potatoes, and many restaurants use them.

>317 laytonwoman3rd: Baked mac & cheese is best. Stove top is quicker. Sometimes I go with what I have time to make rather than my actual preference.

320amanda4242
Edited: Apr 15, 2019, 7:11 pm

Still on mac & cheese, I see. I love baked macaroni, but a good stovetop version topped with pan-toasted breadcrumbs is an acceptable substitute.

321PaulCranswick
Apr 15, 2019, 6:32 pm

>317 laytonwoman3rd: It makes sense, Linda. Crusty is obviously better than sloppy!

>318 ChelleBearss: The cooking on Masterchef Australia is really impressive and the contestants are so nice to each other.

322PaulCranswick
Apr 15, 2019, 6:35 pm

>319 thornton37814: Yes, Lori, I couldn't eat powdered potato. I don't eat either stove top or oven baked mac n cheese but I do love baked pasta either with tuna or with a lovely beef ragu.

>320 amanda4242: I am hopeful of having a book or two to talk about shortly, Amanda.......possibly via a new thread. xx

323vancouverdeb
Apr 15, 2019, 7:18 pm

Oh dear! I think maybe Kraft Mac and Cheese out of a box may be a very Canadian thing. In my very young years, my family did not have a lot of money and Kraft Dinner ( we just called it macaroni, as though there was no other type ) was a staple . I still prefer the stuff right out of the box to the baked stuff. My mom now makes the baked stuff, as does my DIL , but it's not so nice and creamy as the stuff out of the box. I confess I am not much of a cheese person, so the stuff out of a box is fine by me. Baked is all full of calories and so much cheese. I confess I am no foodie.

Interesting, Darryl, that Baked Mac and Cheese is special dish at Thanksgiving . Here , it's the turkey, mashed potatoes, gravy, stuffing ( prepared outside the bird ) , yams or parsnips, carrots, corn and / or what veggies you care to make. I'm not a fan of cranberry sauce , nor pumpkin pie, but many consider that to be a staple part of Thanksgiving dinner.

In my family, we have a rather old fashioned favourite casserole that someone nearly always brings to any family dinner. It's a broccoli casserole, baked in the oven,. Broccoli, and horrors, Darryl, Campbell's cream of chicken soup, plus a bit of cheddar cheese, and a topping of bread crumbs and butter. Very 1970's, I'm afraid. However as the years have gone by and family members have decided to go gluten free/ vegetarian etc - it can get complicated. Quinoa with veggies, cookies with no gluten etc.

LOL . My mom also served powdered mashed potatoes back in the day. I think owing to having 5 children in 9 1/2 years and my dad often away as an airline pilot, it was a matter of survival for my mom . My dad would be away as long a 10 days at a time and my mom had no other family here in Vancouver , so she'd do what she could to keep us feed and stay sane for herself.

I don't think I could eat instant mashed potatoes now.

324PaulCranswick
Apr 15, 2019, 9:05 pm

>324 PaulCranswick: I suppose some of our eating preferences come with our upbringing, Deb. I am a country boy and lived close to several farms in the North of England. From the farm we would have variously cabbage, cauliflower, brussels sprouts, carrots, turnips, parsnips and potatoes. The local butcher had choice fresh cuts of beef and pork and lamb with the occasional chicken. Pork pie at the weekend, fish from the fish van once a week (almost always cod or haddock). Bread was our staple, fish and chips a weekly treat.

No processed food as such growing up (even the sausages were made by the butcher)

Desserts rhubarb or apple or blackberry pies and crumbles; rice puddings made with a smidge of nutmeg thrown in.

What a lucky and innocent childhood I had.
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