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Joe's 2020 Book Cafe 2

This is a continuation of the topic Joe's 2020 Book Cafe.

75 Books Challenge for 2020

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Art by Raul Colon

Welcome back to the cafe!

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I forgot to leave room to list 2020 Books I've read! So this is it.

Books Read in 2020


1. Equinoxes by Cyril Pedrosa*
2. American Spy by Lauren Wilkerson
3. Indecency by Justin Phillip Reed
4. A Handmaid's Tale Graphic by Renee Nault and Margaret Atwood*
5. The Duchess of Bloomsbury Street by Helene Hanff
6. Dream Within a Dream by Patricia MacLachlan
7. Deep Creek by Pam Houston
8. Due Diligence by Sharon Lee and Steve Miller
9. Wandering Star by Teri S. Wood*

Illustrated Books

1. Birdsong by Julie Flett
2. Paper Girls Volume 6 by Brian K. Vaughn
3. I Love This Part by Tillie Walden
4. Door by JiHyeon Lee
5. Show Way by Jacqueline Woodson
6. The Iridescence of Birds by Patricia MacLachlan
7. The Master and Margarita Graphic Novel by Andzej Klimowski


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Two more from Raul Colon

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From 2019

Top 5

The Long Take by Robin Robertson
The Poet X by Elizabeth Acevedo
Girl, Woman, Other by Bernadine Evaristo
Friday Black by Nana Kwame Adjei-Brenyah
A Field Guide to Getting Lost by Rebecca Solnit

Favorite Graphic Works

Good Talk by Mira Jacob
They Called Us Enemy by George Takei
Frida Kahlo: An Illustrated Life by Maria Hesse
The Initiates by Étienne Davodeau
Quiet Girl in a Noisy World by Debbie Tung

Favorite Poetry Collections

Lord of the Butterflies by Andrea Gibson
Drive Here and Devastate Me by Megan Falley
Monument: Poems by Natasha Trethewey
Tap Out by Edgar Kunz
Magical Negro by Morgan Parker

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Our daughter Becca and son Jesse helping little Rafa at breakfast

OK, the cafe is open!

Jan 13, 2:22pm Top

Happy new thread, Joe!

>1 jnwelch: Lovely toppers by Colon. I like them all, but #4 is pretty sweet.

>3 jnwelch: Cute Rafa as always.

Do you serve crullers, light and fluffy?

Jan 13, 2:24pm Top

I'm with Brodie, the Colon toppers are beautimus.

Happy Monday!

Jan 13, 2:31pm Top

Happy new one, Joe. What a gorgeous topper. I love it.

Jan 13, 2:40pm Top

Better get into this thread early if I want coffee and a light and fluffy cruller.

I finished that Delany book this morning, Joe. Nova. Excellent. Good story, characters, writing. I'll be looking for more of his books.

Jan 13, 2:42pm Top

Happy new one!

Jan 13, 2:56pm Top

Happy new thread!

Jan 13, 4:27pm Top

Happy new thread, Joe!

>1 jnwelch: Great pictures, and I love the progression.

It's always good to get glimpses of Rafa, of course.

Jan 13, 4:37pm Top

Happy new thread Joe.

Jan 13, 5:18pm Top

Happy new thread!

Jan 13, 5:37pm Top

Stopping by to encourage friends to believe I am actually visiting here more often.


Jan 13, 6:05pm Top

Happy new thread, Joe!
Glad to see lovely toppers and to have my Rafa fix ;-)

Jan 13, 6:19pm Top

Hi Joe. Thought I would inquire if you have read Rime of the Modern Mariner since you are a fan of graphic novels. Came across it on the shelves at the library. Basically a retelling of Coleridge's book as an environmental fable. Found it kind of fun.

Jan 13, 6:38pm Top

Happy new thread, Joe! Love the toppers, as always.

Jan 13, 6:42pm Top

Happy New Thread, Joe! Like those toppers! Good to see the 75 hopping in the New Year! Even, Paul is back to his old devilish ways! Racking up those numbers!

I am so glad you are enjoying Deep Creek as much as you are. I am continuing to admire The Chaneysville Incident. Not always an easy or smooth read, but the narrative, definitely packs a punch.

Jan 13, 8:21pm Top

>1 jnwelch: What is that little curly-tailed fellow up to in the bottom image?

Jan 13, 8:55pm Top

Happy new cafe, Joe! Love the thread topper images. A lovely diversion of the winter scene outside.

Jan 13, 9:10pm Top

Happy new thread!

Jan 13, 9:32pm Top

Happy 2nd thread, Joe!!

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Thanks for the mention of PBS’ Sanditon on your previous thread. I taped it and look forward to it.

Did you happen to catch PBS’ Jane Austen: Behind Closed Doors? It was hosted by Lucy Worsley who wrote a book on the subject that we both enjoyed. I’m sure they’ll repeat it during the week.

Jan 13, 9:50pm Top

Hi Joe!! Back for the second round!! Glad you kept the Rafa photos up top--they are so cute. : )

Can't wait to get to Girl, Woman, Other later this year. And to see what other 5 star reads you come up with...

Jan 13, 9:52pm Top

Happy new one, Joe.

>21 msf59: Thanks for the plug, Mark!

Jan 13, 9:53pm Top

Love the Raul Colon artwork! It is just beautiful. The picture of Rafa up top does not hurt either :)

Jan 13, 9:56pm Top

I left the remaining white chocolate pretzels on the front desk of the library today with instructions to the student workers to eat them and to get all their friends to eat them until they were gone! The bag was getting low by the time I left.

Jan 13, 11:30pm Top

Happy new thread, Joe. Kudos to Adriana for having her bio and interview appear for the up and comers in Pittsburgh. How wonderful that she got recognition.

Jan 13, 11:52pm Top

>3 jnwelch: What an incredibly good looking little boy! I'm glad you liked Show Way. I've read most of Jacqueline Woodson's books...All are great! Not a bad book in the bunch.

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Thanks, everyone! College football championship game last night plus routine take-the-car-in to the auto shop early this morning = late proprietor. I'll circle back later in the morning.

Jan 14, 8:35am Top

Happy new thread Joe - I can't get over how cute Rafa is!

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>8 brodiew2: Thanks, Brodie! Congrats on being first in the door.

Isn't Colon a good illustrator? I like that #4, too. Thanks re the cutesome Rafa.

Fluffy crullers? Here you go.

Jan 14, 9:47am Top

>9 richardderus: Happy Tuesday, Richard! Hmm, somehow the day changed. :-)

Aren't those Raul Colon toppers beautimus?

>10 Ameise1: Thanks, Barbara. I'm glad you love the toppers.

>11 weird_O: Crullers are up above, weird buddy. Good job of getting in early.

I'm glad the Delaney Nova book went well. Now you've got me curious about that one. I'm pretty sure Babel-17 won some awards, and probably others of his did, too.

>12 figsfromthistle: Thanks, Anita!

>13 foggidawn: Thanks, foggi!

>14 quondame: Thanks, Susan! Ah, that's cool that you picked up on the topper progression. That's one of the better ones, isn't it.

Rafa's sister-to-be is at 8 lbs. 2 oz.! Poor Adriana is mighty uncomfortable. They see the doctor on Thursday, and inducing soon may be in the cards. Wow. We didn't expect her to be this big with so much time left.

Jan 14, 10:03am Top

>15 johnsimpson: Thanks, mate.

>16 ChelleBearss: Thanks, Chelle!

>17 maggie1944: Hi, Karen! This is a pleasant surprise. It would be lovely to see you more on LT this year. I hope all is going well.

>18 FAMeulstee: Hiya, Anita. Thanks! Ha! I'm glad we could give you your Rafa fix, and some toppers you like. :-)

>19 Oberon: Hi, Erik. Thanks for the tip on the Rime of the Modern Mariner GN. I'll look for it. I've read the "Ancient" poem (have we all, from our school days?), and this take on it sounds intriguing.

>20 bell7: Thanks, Mary! Good to hear the toppers came through for you again. He's a new favorite illustrator for me.

>21 msf59: Thanks, buddy, and I'm glad you like the toppers! It has been a buzz-y beginning to the year, hasn't it. Yeah, the old "the more posts the merrier" Paul is back, looks like.

You know, I hit a "stuck in neutral" patch in Deep Creek - she dedicates an awful lot of pages to the wildfire, doesn't she. That part hasn't captivated me like, e.g., Young Men and Fire. But other than that, it's been a great read. Some readers of The Chaneysville Incident haven't liked his digressions as much as the rest; I ate it all up happily. I'm glad it's doing well for you overall.

Jan 14, 10:10am Top

Good morning, Joe.Congratulations on Thread No. 2 and some good reading under your belt. I would imagine things might slow down a bit when Baby Granddaughter enters the world. It sounds like she’s in a hurry!

Jan 14, 10:17am Top

>22 laytonwoman3rd: Hi, Linda. If you go back to the last thread, there are more photos of what the curly-tailed and curly-haired little fellow is up to - he's creating his own sculpture from those big chess pieces. He had a plan, and he was remarkably determined and persistent in carrying it out. We and others in the square got a big kick out of it.

>23 lkernagh: Thanks, Lori. I'm a fan of "hot colors" in the winter. Those toppers are a nice diversion, aren't they. I really enjoy his color sense in his illustrations.

>24 jessibud2: Thanks, Shelley!

>25 Carmenere: Thanks, Lynda!

>26 NarratorLady: Oh, you're welcome re Sanditon, Anne. I'm surprised to be looking forward to it, too. The original chapters were a yawner for me, and I've read a lot of her books now other than the big 6. Those are the only writing of hers I'd say that about. The first episode of this tv adaptation was definitely not a yawner.

I did see that "Jane Austen: Behind Closed Doors" with Lucy Worsley, and thoroughly enjoyed it. I had no idea Lucy Worsley is that delightful in person. Now I'm going to look for others she's done.

The only thing I missed was I was much struck by JA's very small circular writing table at Chawton Cottage. I expected it to be mentioned and maybe featured in this special. For such great writing to come from such a small space says a lot, seems to me. Did she balance that portable writing desk on it? I wish I knew more about it.

Jan 14, 10:28am Top

>27 Berly: Thanks re the second round, Kim! I always like to have a photo of Rafa on a new one. The Rafa highlights from the east have been videos lately, so I brought over a couple of the recent ones from the last thread.

You'll love Girl Woman Other when you get to it. What an accomplishment from this new-to-me writer.

I'm reading two good ones right now, Deep Creek and The Testaments. The latter may end up a five star, and the former will probably come close - if it weren't for a slow stretch about a wildfire (how is that possible?) in DC, I'd place it higher. The Handmaid's Tale GN is really well done, too - I feel like you read that one?

>28 PaulCranswick: Thanks, Paul. The activity on your thread is back to the old days, after a tough RL year last year.

>29 alcottacre: Ha! Thanks, Stasia. Nice to have you stop by. Aren't those Raul Colon illustrations beautiful? And the wee Rafa would no doubt say thank you.

>30 thornton37814: I'll bet those white chocolate pretzels were disappearing fast, Lori! Good for you for sharing like that. I'm sure we have some more around here somewhere.

Jan 14, 10:38am Top

Morning, Joe. Not bad out here, but looking forward to the sun making an appearance. I might agree with you on the lengthy wildfire section, in Deep Creek, but it was not enough for me to dock it any points.

Jan 14, 10:40am Top

>38 Donna828: Thanks, Donna. Good morning. Yes, Fina's arrival will have us on a plane to visit immediately for a few days. Then we'll return for a longer stay, probably around Feb. 10. Fina obviously is thriving and ready to make her debut!

>31 Familyhistorian: Thanks, Meg. Adriana has done so many wonderful things for and in Pittsburgh; we're very happy she's getting recognized for it, and is considered an up-and-comer. How she manages it all is beyond me.

>32 Whisper1: Ha! Isn't Rafa a sweetheart, Linda. I wish I could post a video of him rumbling with the dogs Bolita and Maleta - he thinks he's one of them, and loves to tussle with them. They're remarkably patient.

I did like Show Way, and thanks again for the tip. I'm busy tracking down others of hers. What a talented writer Woodson is.

>34 Coffee.Cat: Thanks, Abigail, and thank you for stopping by. He's a swell little fellow, that Rafa, and I'm glad you enjoy his cuteness. He's getting so close to talking - his house speaks Spanish and English. Can't wait to hear what's on his mind. He's a very busy boy, with a lot of projects he takes on, so I'm sure a lot of it will be about that.

Jan 14, 10:45am Top

>41 msf59: Hiya, Mark. Yeah, not too bad out there, I'm glad we can say. We were up at the crack of dawn to get the car into the auto shop for a check-up (an unexpected burning smell turned out to be rotten leaves, not the critical and expensive prestidigitator (made that up) it could've been). We walked back - as Debbi said, that's one of the advantages of being in the city - we can walk back after dropping off the car. Now we're back at Blue Sky cafe for some poetry-reading and writing.

That wildfire section in Deep Creek is lengthy, isn't it? Debbi's interested in reading the book (it's just the kind she likes), so I'll warn her about that.

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>39 jnwelch: I was talking about the monkey in the bottom picture in your first post, Joe. I KNOW what Rafa was doing, bless his adorable little soul. (Wait 'til his parents hear you called him "curly-tailed"!)

Jan 14, 12:07pm Top

Those white chocolate pretzels look good but they would go even better with a really nice cup of hot coffee or tea. Does the cafe have any?

Jan 14, 12:37pm Top

>44 laytonwoman3rd: Ha! Oh, that little monkey, Linda. Oops! Rafa thinks he's a dog, so his parents wouldn't be too surprised by "curly-tailed". :-)

It looks to me like the monkey in the first post is planning how to eat some cake, don't you think?

>45 benitastrnad: Hot coffee or tea is our middle name, Benita - and what a weird middle name to have, right?

Here you go:

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Hello Joe! I hope your day is going well.

>35 jnwelch: Thanks for the crullers. Delicious!

>46 jnwelch: Beautiful coffee!

Hoping to make some progress in Foundation today. More snow overnight. Gonna be homebound.

Jan 14, 2:27pm Top

What did you think of the Oscar (So White) nominations? My grammatical dig should tell you what I thought.

Jan 14, 2:54pm Top

Happy new thread!

Jan 14, 3:11pm Top

>47 brodiew2: Hello Brodie! The day is going well, thanks. The car problems turned out to be minor, and we had a productive time at the cafe. I'm glad the crullers hit the spot, and we pride ourselves on our beautiful coffee. :-)

Sounds like perfect weather for reading Foundation. I'm happy that it's standing up well after the time that has passed.

>48 benitastrnad: I know, Benita - and all male for the directors? What happened to the diversity movement?

>49 drneutron: Thanks, Jim!

Jan 14, 4:42pm Top

>48 benitastrnad: Been there, done that. At present, diversity can only episodically capture the controls of the great hetero white machine.

Jan 14, 6:31pm Top

>51 quondame: Among many other things, that status quo is boring, isn't it. I'm not excited about this year's Oscars.

Jan 14, 6:41pm Top

>48 benitastrnad: >50 jnwelch: I think what was worse, than the "So White" nominations, was the "So Male" tag. Greta Gerwig not getting a nomination for Little Women is ridiculous. And Lupita Nyong'o, who is also a black woman, not get nominated for her terrific dual performance in "Us". The Oscars are becoming the Golden Globes. And that is not a compliment.

Jan 14, 6:42pm Top

>52 jnwelch: Every now and then I have to read The Case of the Toxic Spell Dump to remember that it is possible to capture the diversity of living in my city. But it is very, very rare.

Jan 15, 1:32am Top

>39 jnwelch: I remember seeing Lucy Worsley's series "Hidden Killers in the Victorian Home" which was really interesting, Joe. If you get a chance you should check it out.

Jan 15, 4:57am Top

Hi Joe!
Happy new thread.

Sheesh. I go away for only three days and there are 29 messages on your old thread and 63 on this one. Skimming along, I love everything here – toppers, crullers, anticipated arrival of Fina, and especially

>43 jnwelch: rotten leaves vs the expensive prestidigitator. You’re a hoot.

Jan 15, 5:56am Top

Morning, Joe!

My sympathies to Adriana, as I've been where she is (Charlie arrived on the scene at 10lbs even).

Jan 15, 8:10am Top

>53 msf59: Hiya, Mark. Agreed re Greta Gerwig. It's always a little weird when a movie gets nominated for an Oscar but its director doesn't. But in Gerwig's case it's much worse - she clearly deserved a nomination for bringing the Little Women story to such vivid and well-acted life. They may need a total rehaul of the Oscar voters.

>54 quondame: I haven't read The Case of the Toxic Spell Dump, Susan, but you make it sound enticing. Yeah, I suspect urbanites are more likely to appreciate diversity; those in our rural areas often have never even met someone from a minority, although California is a better state than most for that.

>55 Familyhistorian: Thanks, Meg, for the Lucy Worsley tip. I enjoyed her tour-guiding the Jane Austen one.

>56 karenmarie: Hi Karen! Thanks re the thread.

Ha! I'm glad you enjoyed the thread developments and the rotten leaves vs. the expensive prestidigitator. :-)

>57 scaifea: Omigosh, 10 lbs even. Charlie was a whopper, wasn't he, Amber. I don't think Fina is going to get that high, but Adriana is so uncomfortable. The doctors are still thinking the last week of the month for Fina's arrival.

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Jan 15, 10:55am Top

>59 jnwelch: *SNORK!!*

Jan 15, 11:03am Top

>59 jnwelch: LIKE!

Morning, Joe. Happy Wednesday. Glad the freezing rain missed us. Whew! I work again tomorrow but then have a 4 day weekend coming up. Yah!

Really enjoying Chaneysville, but it demands to be read slow. Close to wrapping up my audio of Dopesick. This is another important read, in the same company of Evicted and Just Mercy, IMHO.

Jan 15, 12:54pm Top

>60 scaifea: Hee-hee!

>61 msf59: Right, Mark? Good morning, buddy. Yes - we just saying the same thing about the freezing rain missing us. Hey, a 4 day weekend - sounds great!

Ah, it makes me happy that you're really enjoying Chaneysville. Deep Creek is ending beautifully. I've got just a little bit to go.

Good for you for taking on Dopesick. That's one that I'm unlikely to read, despite its importance. Strikes a little too close to home.

Jan 15, 4:45pm Top

Hey there, Joe. Dobos torte?

Jan 15, 4:59pm Top

>63 richardderus: It looks like it tried to put up a pointed defense! This was one of my mother's recipes that I never attempted.

Jan 15, 6:12pm Top

I am thinking that a really nice plate of Chicken Diablo would be nice - in front of that cake? That sweetness would counter the spice.

Jan 15, 6:41pm Top

>64 quondame:, >65 benitastrnad: *chuckle* Y'all...such cards!

Jan 15, 7:23pm Top

>65 benitastrnad: Is that the broiled breaded chicken with an undercoating of dijon mustard? I loved to take it on picnics.

Jan 15, 8:13pm Top

Just checking in for today, Joe. I could use a cuppa! Maybe some Earl Grey?

Jan 16, 6:02am Top

Jan 16, 8:33am Top

Morning, Joe! I am late to your newest thread, but I'm all caught up now. Hoping today is kind to you.

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>63 richardderus: Oh man, what a beaut, Richard. Yum! Dobos torte? Your pantry is an amazement.

>64 quondame: I can say with certainty that my mother never had a recipe for dobos torte, Susan. I'm impressed that your mother did.

>65 benitastrnad:, >66 richardderus: Worth trying, Benita. Maybe you and RD can have a group meetup/bakeup/cookup?

>67 quondame: Your picnics sound far superior to mine, Susan.

>69 Caroline_McElwee: Ha! I'll see your pffft and raise you a psssh, Caroline.

>70 Crazymamie: Morning, Mamie! Lovely, as always, to have you stop by. A kind day sounds just right; I hope yours is, too.

>68 alcottacre: I hope a morning cuppa of Earl Grey works for you, Stasia. Here you go:

Jan 16, 10:08am Top

I'm in the mood for some of Granny's roast chicken with taters, onions, and shrooms.

Jan 16, 10:56am Top

Morning, Joe. Sweet Thursday. Not recommending a walk today, unless you really bundle up. Glad you got to see a Bulls win. That is like seeing a white elk, right? Grins...

Jan 16, 11:02am Top

Hmmmm. Roast chicken.

As my mother aged and actually got a couple of great-granddaughters, she favored "Grannie". Unfortunately, she wasn't really much of a cook, as I discovered after I met Judi.

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>72 richardderus: I'm still in breakfast and coffee mode over here, RD, but who am I to argue with Granny?

>73 msf59: Morning, Mark. Ha! You'd enjoy this story. I did walk this morning - to the doctor for a regular checkup. The nurse tried to take my temperature, and the thermometer wouldn't work. She said, "Did you walk here?" I said yes, and she said that it was cold enough out that I had to warm up before my temperature would register! Sure enough, enough seconds later, she got a 96.7, which is the lowest I remember ever getting.

Ha! A Bulls win these days is like seeing a white elk. LOL!

Debbi just showed me some white giraffes somewhere in Africa. I put them up there with a white elk - quite magical to see.

Jan 16, 11:17am Top

>74 weird_O: My grandma went by Nonnie (the other grandma died before I was born, unfortunately), Bill, and she was a good cook, although I'm sure she also didn't know how to bake/make a Dobos Torte. Her husband went by Tampa, so that's what I am to Rafa for now (we'll see whether he sticks with that). The famous JNW went by "Pop".

Are you Weirdpa to your grandchildren? :-)

Jan 16, 11:21am Top

I am getting ready for the ALA winter conference in Philadelphia. It is January 24 - 27, 2020. I have not yet received conformation that LT will provide the free passes to the exhibits, as they have done in the past, but have made contact with them to find out. So far, I have received no inquiries regarding a meetup, but if anybody reading this thread is interested let me know and I will find a place and we can hang out and talk about what incredible finds we have made on the exhibit floor.

The exhibit floor opens on Saturday, January 24 at 9:00 a.m. and closes at noon on Monday, January 27, 2020. In between are lots of free ARC (Advanced Readers Copies) for both children and adults. As soon as I find out from the LT gods if there will be free passes to this nirvana I will let you know.

Jan 16, 11:24am Top

Wasn't that white Elk on the Call the Midwife Christmas 2020 episode? The one Sister Monica Joan saw somewhere on the Shetland's?

>70 Crazymamie:
I hate to a stuffy know-it-all, but I think that white Elk is really a white Moose. Elk don't have the beard and their horns are pointed like those of a deer.

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>77 benitastrnad: Thanks, Benita. Wish I could be there - a lot. We've haven't been to Philadelphia in too long, among other things. I bet you get a nice LT turnout. You do such a good job of facilitating all this - I'm grateful, even though I'm not coming!

We received word this morning that new grandchild Fina could arrive any time between now and next Thursday, and that if she doesn't show up naturally, they'll induce. So we're waiting to get the word, and then we'll fly to Pittsburgh.

The ALA conference, with all the ARCs and book talk and authors, is nirvana, you're right. We love it when we can go.

>78 benitastrnad: Madame MBH might know about Call the Midwife and the white elk. Could be! I finally stopped watching after they changed the cast for the umpteenth time, but she still watches.

Oh my, thanks for the tip on white moose versus white elk. I should know, as I've seen both in RL. But it's been quite a while. If so, I'll add a white elk and keep the white moose so your post still makes sense.

P.S. Huh, they say it's a white elk: https://www.businessinsider.com.au/rare-albino-elk-sweden-may-be-shot-2017-11 It's Swedish, so maybe that helps explain the departure from what you're used to.

Here's a different mystical white elk, to round out the story.

Jan 16, 1:27pm Top

>78 benitastrnad: Don't feel bad - was going to point out that it was a moose and not an elk too. You just beat me to it.

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>80 Oberon: Turns out it's considered an elk, Erik - see the link, and I've read the same elsewhere now. But I can see why you both said that.

P.S. Okay, with more digging, I've found the one in >75 jnwelch: is called a rare white moose nearly as often as it's called a rare white elk (without either explaining the other), so I think you two probably have it right. It certainly looks more like a moose to me, now that you've pointed it out.

We obviously need more elk vs. moose education around the world. At least we've made a good beginning in the cafe. :-)

Jan 16, 1:40pm Top

Hello Joe! I hope your day is going well.

>6 jnwelch: As a funny aside, I have seen the pic of Magical Negro near the top of your thread each time I come in. My brain, because of the font and my lack of specific attention read Ngaio Marsh. When I finally slowed down enough, I realized my error. I'm glad you enjoyed it so much. I have not heard of it til now.

>75 jnwelch: Magical sights indeed. Thanks for sharing!

I watched a film called Denial recently given the subject of Holocaust denial and was surprised to find that it was about true case that occurred in the 1990s. Unimaginable that there could be any such denial. However, it all comes down to ideology, I imagine. The film fell a little flat for me, but was still interesting. Kerry(avatiach) recommended a German film called Labyrinth of Lies which deals with the first generation after Hitler and how the atrocities were never recognized. I look forward to seeing it.

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>82 brodiew2: Hello Brodie! The day is going swell, thanks. I hope it is on your end, too. On my end, my dr. gave me the all clear on my checkup follow-up, so I'm chuffed.

Ha! I like Ngaio Marsh's mysteries, but Magical Negro definitely ranks higher for me. Reactions to poetry can be so idiosyncratic; although Magical Negro gets listed a lot as one of the best of 2019, I'm not sure how many would place it as highly as I did. I found her frankness, including her humorous self-deprecation about dating white men, really grabbed me.

You're welcome about the magical sights - you'll see there's discussion about whether the magical white elk in >75 jnwelch: is actually a magical white moose, and I lean toward the moose theory. It really looks like a moose, not an elk.

Good for you for watching the Denial movie. There are people who talk each other into believing things despite all evidence to the contrary, aren't there. I suspect there always will be. I wish it were otherwise. Please report back on Labyrinth of Lies when you have a chance to see it.

Jan 16, 2:09pm Top

The white melkooses are lovely, the g-raft is cool, the joint's jumpin' and me for the beach!

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>78 benitastrnad: - That was a stag. At least, that was what Sister Monica Joan kept referring to it as.

Jan 16, 2:37pm Top

Wow! Never seen one in white before. Genetically, this must be rare.

Happy Thursday!

Jan 16, 3:43pm Top

>83 jnwelch: Funny, I have a biography of Ngaio Marsh near the top of the tbr mountain, and as I hadn't read her books for many years, just bought two home from the library Joe.

Jan 16, 4:47pm Top

>81 jnwelch: Ask and you shall receive: https://www.wildsweden.com/about/facts-about-moose

Read carefully, this can be confusing!

The photo above shows a Moose according to North American English. In Swedish this animal is called Älg. And in British English it is called Elk. In fact they are the same species, Alces alces. But this is when it gets really confusing… In North America there is another member of the Deer family, the Wapiti, which is often referred to as Elk. So, the Swedish Älg is called Moose in American English and an Elk in British English. So it is the same species. But remember that the Elk in Europe is not the same as Elk in North America. Confusing? Take a deep breath and read again!

In other words… There are two different Elks, but only one Moose. And that’s the reason why we choose to call the Swedish Älg a Moose."

Jan 16, 5:41pm Top

>88 Oberon:. “Natasha! It is another conspiracy from Elk and Squirrel! I mean, Moose and Squirrel!”

Edited: Jan 16, 6:10pm Top

>84 richardderus: I think "melkoose" solves the problem, Richard, so thank you for that. A Bulls win is as rare as sighting a white melkoose. There we go.

Isn't that g-raffe cool?

What beach are you going to? Seems like any nearby one would be pretty icy this time of year.

>85 jessibud2: Hmm. A stag melkoose on Call the Midwife. That's one strange plot twist, Shelley.

>86 figsfromthistle: Happy Thursday, Anita! From what I've seen, they're albinos, and yes, rare! I can see why folks sighting them give them magical significance.

>87 Caroline_McElwee: That is a strange bit of psychic connection, Caroline. Are you sure you didn't bring home two copies of Magical Negro?

Our daughter is a Ngaio Marsh fan; I believe she's read them all. Combine her mystery reading with her true crime reading, and I'm beginning to think she's in training to be an ace criminal.

>88 Oberon: Just ignore Boris and Natasha up in >89 jnwelch:, Erik. That's a fine bit of research you did, and I now know way more about elk, moose, and melkooses than I did when the day started.

Jan 16, 8:48pm Top

Thanks for the cuppa, Joe!

Edited: Jan 17, 3:19pm Top

>88 Oberon: I've always heard the flat horned ones called moose. In the US. But I don't hang out with hunters or game wardens. Wikipedea: "The moose (North America) or elk (Eurasia), Alces alces," the horns of the pictured animals have large flat areas.

Edited: Jan 17, 1:50am Top

Hello Joe!

Apparently, I started something regarding Ngaio Marsh. :-P I can definitely tell you that the curly font used on the Magical Negro reminiscent of Marsh's name on a number of editions.

But, Joe. 1917! It is all that and the best breakfast offering the cafe can supply. Awe-inspiring! It really needs to be seen in the theater. I hope you get to it.

Jan 17, 2:48am Top

>40 jnwelch: Yes, loved the GN of Handmaid's Tale and really want to get to Testaments!!

Cool pictures of the albino beasts.

Jan 17, 6:55am Top

Joe! I'm excited to read about the impending arrival of another grandchild! I know it will be a little while yet but can't wait for photos.

Jan 17, 8:06am Top

>91 alcottacre: You're welcome, Stasia!

>92 quondame: I'd probably add the technical term "galumphy" for moose, Susan. I'm not sure about fat, but moose are definitely horned and galumphy. Their legs always seem unlikely to me. Among other things, we got to see them when a bunch of the family went to Yellowstone and thereabouts. And a whole lot of elk in a town near Yellowstone apparently known for elk conventions.

>93 brodiew2: Hello Brodie! I can see what you mean re the curly font for both Magical Negro and Ngaio Marsh.

Good to hear re 1917! It's gotten raves, and snagged the Golden Globe for best picture - but that doesn't always add up to a great movie experience. I don't know whether we'll see it in the theater; we're going day to day waiting for Fina's debut. But I'd like to.

>94 Berly: Hiya, Kim. Wasn't the GN of Handmaid's Tale great? I was really pleased with what they did. Testaments is scary good.

>95 lauralkeet: Thanks, Laura! Ha! Yes, I imagine there will be photos. Oh my gosh, the thought of Madame MBH having photos of two of them to show to everyone we meet!

Edited: Jan 17, 8:21am Top

I just found out last night that Britbox has all the Sharpe episodes, starring Sean Bean. Napoleonic wars, great storytelling. Wooo! I'm going to be re-watching them asap. Patiently, not all at once, I promise. Madame MBH sighed.

P.S. They're based on the Bernard Cornwell books, which make for excellent book snacks.

Jan 17, 8:28am Top

Oooh, exciting news on the Fina front! I'm happy for you and MBH that you'll be able to be there to welcome her into the world!

Jan 17, 8:36am Top

>98 scaifea: Thanks, Amber! The excitement is abounding. We'll probably be in charge of Rafa for some of the time, too. We like that idea. :-)

Jan 17, 8:37am Top

>99 jnwelch: Oh, yes, I suspect that will be such a hardship, that Rafa-tending. Ha!

Jan 17, 8:38am Top

I am also excited to hear about another grandchild on the way. More cute baby pictures!

>97 jnwelch: Sean Bean and Sharpe are two favorites of mine. Enjoy!

Jan 17, 8:54am Top

>100 scaifea: LOL! Can't wait to be back with the very busy Rafa.

>101 brodiew2: Ha! There will be more cute baby photos, Brodie, for sure. We've already seen her face via ultrasound, but it just gives us a kinda sorta idea.

Sean Bean and Sharpe - right? Our daughter and I had a grand time watching all of them many years ago. The first one is as good as I remembered.

Jan 17, 9:04am Top

>75 jnwelch: That is a white moose, which is just as awesome.

Morning, Joe. Happy Friday. I am kicking off my long weekend. I have been paying bills online, and writing up a couple of mini-reviews. I have a doctor's appointment, this A.M. and then I am cuddling up with the books. Only 70 some pages left in Chaneysville, which has been a real nice surprise, despite his verbosity. I am also thoroughly engaged with Flight Behavior, so expect more warbling on that one. Enjoy your day.

BTW- We are going up to Milwaukee, with friends tomorrow and spending the night. Lots of brewery visiting and we will have lunch tomorrow with Nancy. Yah!!

Jan 17, 10:16am Top

Yay for being a big brother! Rafa will, eventually, be so excited.

Jan 17, 11:01am Top

>89 jnwelch: I think Elk and Squirrel sounds more sinister!

There are still moose in Minnesota but they are threatened here and thus get regular coverage in our press. Elk range more western than us.

Jan 17, 12:40pm Top

Hi Joe!

Once again behind the 8-ball.... albino confusingly-named animals, Dobos Torte, weirdpa, Ngaio Marsh, new babies, and Sean Bean. If it's a series, I guess he doesn't die quickly?

TGiF, right, for someone who still dreads the-day-after-Sunday?

Edited: Jan 17, 1:15pm Top

>103 msf59: Ha! You may have missed the elk and moose discussion, buddy. It's a moose here, and an elk in some European countries, and a melkoose in the world of Richard. I think I got that right.

>104 richardderus: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see what Rafa makes of Fina's arrival, Richard. I suspect she'll be another dog for a while from his POV, but we'll see. I agree, eventually he'll be excited, and we expect he'll be a great big brother.

>105 Oberon: Ha! Elk and Squirrel - maybe we could inspire a more sinister sequel to Rocky and Bullwinkle, Erik. I guess I'm not entirely surprised that you have elk in MN; I know Canada north of you has them. I'm sorry to hear they're threatened - is it hunting, or something else?

>106 karenmarie: Hi Karen!

Good summary of the action so far! LOL - Sean Bean does not get the Game of Thrones treatment in this one, and Sharpe manages to survive battle after battle.

Yes, TGIF - I'm reveling in it.

Jan 17, 2:29pm Top

I love the Sharpe TV series (and not just because of a rather dashing younger Sean Bean). :-0 wishing you a fabulous weekend, Joe.

Edited: Jan 17, 3:26pm Top

>96 jnwelch: Arrgh, flat, not fat.

>97 jnwelch: My husband got me a complete set of all the Sharpe seasons - I had enjoyed episodes and Regency/Napoleonic period was really one of my things. I got through maybe 3 seasons, I'm not sure, but gave up well before getting through them all. I loved the theme music and the way it was done.

>106 karenmarie: >107 jnwelch: Killing off the eponymous character unusual, though Lady Murasaki did it.

Jan 17, 9:40pm Top

Waiting for the baby news Joe.......

Jan 17, 9:51pm Top

Happy Friday, Joe! Like Bonnie, I am waiting for the baby news.

Edited: Jan 17, 10:11pm Top

>76 jnwelch: My husband’s chosen grandfather name is “Grandad” which has had an interesting evolution. The grandkids are 3 years apart but both of them at first translated that to “dee-dah” which then morphed to “dee-Dad”; at 21 months that’s Lily’s name for him but going by her brother’s trajectory, we’ll be hearing “Grandad” by summer. (One year we put “Happy Birthday Dee-Dah” on his cake. He’s very grateful it didn’t stick.)

Jan 17, 11:31pm Top

Hi Joe, how exciting - soon to be grandparents of two! Enjoy the arrival of Fina and your time with Raffa!

Edited: Yesterday, 3:08am Top

Dropping by for a quick cuppa, Joe. I like the art toppers.

Rafa is growing fast! Looking forward to seeing his sister.

Don’t look now but there’s a nekked giraffe wandering around your café.

Yesterday, 5:26am Top

Ooh, Sharpe. Classic telly memories.
There's a funny ad for Yorkshire tea at the moment. He reprises his skills at a pre-battle speech.
In case you like it: https://youtu.be/8cipMoGKXGE

Glad to read you didn't in fact break the thermometer!
I shall be lurking for sight of the new arrival. (Not another elk.)

Yesterday, 9:57am Top

Morning, Joe. Happy Saturday. We are leaving in about two hours, for Milwaukee. It will be nice to see Nancy. I wish the weather was better, though. Wish us luck.

Yesterday, 10:05am Top

Just dropping by - lots of coffee will be needed today.

Yesterday, 10:30am Top

Happy depths-of-winter, Joe. As I wandered through the kitchen, I chanced upon these dark chocolate-crabapple cakes.

Permaybehaps coffee could be procured?

Pulmo on Tuesdo. Good-oh!

Edited: Yesterday, 12:37pm Top

>118 richardderus: Happy depths-of-winter, Richard. It's all snowy in our neck of the woods, after previous weeks of not-so-much.

I love it when you wander through the kitchen. Dark chocolate crabapple cakes, lightly dusted with snowy sugar. Perfect with coffee, which will be coming up shortly.

Pulmo on Tuesdo. You stumped me! Your heart swells with delight on Tuesday?

>108 lkernagh: Nice to have a fellow Sharpe-lover, Lori. Yes, Sean Bean being easy on the eyes helped keep our daughter interested when she watched with me, I imagine. She also was a big fan of his pal, Harper.

>109 quondame: Ha! Flat makes more sense, Susan. I've never ever had a hypo, I mean pypo, I mean typo in my psots.

Does your husband need a friend? A complete set of Sharpe, what a great gift. I built up a set of all of them over time. What I can tell you is that the later episodes are as good as the early ones, should you ever decide to jump back in again.

I'm a Sharpe nut, as you can tell. I've read all the books, too, and keep hoping Cornwell will write another one, even though I think by now he's covered the time periods so thoroughly that Sharpe would have to be in two places at the same time.

Yeah, the joke, as you probably know, with killing Sean Bean off, is that's what they did almost immediately in Game of Thrones. Shocker at the time. Kinda like killing off Drew Barrymore at the start of the first Scream movie..

Yesterday, 12:19pm Top

>110 brenzi:, >111 alcottacre: Hi, Bonnie and Stasia. We're waiting to get the baby news, too. I know Adriana would love sooner rather than later for this big girl.

>112 NarratorLady: Ha! Thanks for the Grandad story, Anne. "Dee-dah" is a good one; I wouldn't mind that.

I'm infamous in the family for loving that our daughter called pajamas "jamajas". I loved it so much that, when she started saying pajamas, I tried to get her to go back to saying jamajas. I still miss it.

>113 DeltaQueen50: Hi, Judy! Thanks! Exciting times. I'm hoping she's able to discuss books as soon as she shows up.

>114 humouress: Hi, Nina. Good to see you. I'm glad you like the toppers.

Rafa is growing so fast. When we Facetimed two weeks after we last saw him, he was already longer and his face a bit changed.

Ha! Thanks for the heads up on the nekkid giraffe. Was she all white? She shows up here once in a while - and never gets mistaken for a moose or elk.

Are you a tea or coffee person, for your cuppa? I'll do tea here, and we have coffee coming up.

Yesterday, 12:35pm Top

>115 charl08: Yay! Another Sharpe fan. Hi, Charlotte. Classic, indeed. I've re-watched two so far, and they're just as good as I remembered.

LOL! Thanks for the link to the tea commercial. I love him swinging the sword around. I just watched him give that rousing speech in the show, as they ready for the French attack, featuring "3 shots a minute - but can you stand?"

I didn't break the thermometer, thank goodness; I'm just relieved that I warmed up enough to join those who have measurable temperatures.

We've seen the ultrasound photos, and we're pretty sure that, while she's a big girl, Fina's not an elk or moose.

>116 msf59: Happy Saturday, Mark. Safe travels and good luck with the trip to Milwaukee. The roads by us are okay - the above freezing temps help with the snowy roads, although it's slushy. Have a great time, and please say hi to Nancy for me!

>117 Coffee.Cat: Hi, Abby! Lovely to have you back with us on LT. Yes, lots of coffee is needed - Richard in particular has been waiting patiently. Here you go:

Yesterday, 1:18pm Top

I brought a mug...

Edited: Yesterday, 2:18pm Top

>120 jnwelch: Thanks Joe, that hits the spot.

>119 jnwelch: Having read LotR and GoT before their respective screenings I knew Sean Bean’s characters were in for it - but still, why, why?

ETA: I saw mention of the Sanditon TV series; I just managed to watch upto the end of episode 6 on the plane before we touched down in Singapore. It’s fun but more Regency-shocking than ‘Austen’. I’ll have to find the last episodes somewhere.

Yesterday, 1:41pm Top

My library system (37 linked small town libraries) only has one copy of Girl, Woman, Other.

>59 jnwelch: O so true! Shared to FB!

Glad you got the moose/elk/alg thing sorted. Both are common in this area of western Montana. I have occasional stray elk wander through my place, but never a moose. Thank goodness! Moose blast through fences that elk and deer jump over. Moose can be quite crotchety and are easily twice the size of my horses. I have been chased twice by a moose - once at the local river park and once in an inflatable canoe in the Idaho wilderness.

Fina, Fina (little Jo) where when are you???

Yesterday, 2:24pm Top

>124 streamsong: Wow, that's surprising for a Booker winner that's had some much acclaim, isn't it, Janet. They need to get more copies of Girl, Woman, Other on hand.

Ha! Isn't >59 jnwelch: right on the money. I'm glad you were inspired to share it.

Montana makes for a challenging winter but, oh my, the wildlife and landscape. Both moose and elk - love it. Wow, not many people can say they got chased twice by a moose. I'm glad you got away! I remember how huge they are.

Fina has lots of folks eagerly awaiting her arrival. She's big enough to show up any minute, but it may be a few more days. We're trying to get ready to jump on a plane as soon as we get word.

Edited: Yesterday, 2:34pm Top

I had a great time with Wandering Star - if you like science fiction and graphic novels, you'll probably want to give it a try. It's a collection of Teri S. Wood's labor of love over many years, and is a great tale of seemingly outmatched Earth and a few students of the Galactic Academy, along with a couple of unusual on-ship aliens, trying to stave off and defeat the ruthless and determined Bono Kiro. We get an inside look with protagonist Casandra as it all unfolds.

I figured it's easiest to give you the comments on the Amazon page to give you the flavor:

"Wandering Star is a beautiful story, written years before its time. Space epics were not in vogue when Teri Wood wrote and drew this story. She didn't do it for fame, or money, she did it for love. And, she crafted her story without the influence of today's trendy tropes. That's the perfect combination for timeless fiction. Since its completion, Wandering Star has sat squarely in the company of the most beloved works of fiction, waiting for its time. Thanks to this omnibus, the time is now." — Terry Moore "Simply one of the best sci-fi comics ever written." — Overstreet's Fan Magazine
This much-praised space drama follows the far-flung adventures of Casandra, daughter of the President of the United Nations of Earth and the first terran accepted into the Galactic Academy. Casandra discovers to her woe that Earth isn't the most popular of planets and joins the outcasts working on Wandering Star, the Galactic Alliance's prototypical spaceship. When the Bono Kiro, the Alliance's longtime enemy, makes a sudden reappearance, Casandra and her misfit crew just might turn out to be the galaxy's last hope. Sure to delight the legions of fans of the series, this beautiful hardcover edition collects all 21 of the original comics for the first time.
"Wood's science-fiction series shows her clear vision of story and character — and excellent ability to delineate both." — Comics Buyers Guide
"Good science fiction turns on a compelling 'what if'. In this case, it's 'What if the Earth wasn't the center of the civilized universe?'" — Comics Worth Reading
"No one should be allowed to write a first book this good. A cross between Anne McCaffrey and Jim Starlin; humanistic yet still plot-oriented." — Cold Cut Distribution
"Potent, powerful, uplifting, and painfully realistic, this is a war story that deals with consequences rather than as simple victories and defeats." —Now Read This

Edited: Yesterday, 3:17pm Top

“We are all dying, and because of us, so is the earth. That’s the most terrible, the most painful in my entire repertoire of self-torturing thoughts. But it isn’t dead yet and neither are we. Are we going to drop the earth off at the vet, say goodbye at the door, and leave her to die in the hands of strangers? We can decide, even now, not to turn our backs on her in her illness. We can still decide not to let her die alone.”
Pam Houston, Deep Creek: Finding Hope in the High Country

“What edges out the worry, of course, is the wonder. Because what could be better than 48 inches in twenty-four hours (76 inches is the local record), than a couple of Irish wolfhounds leaping though bottomless powder with giant smiles on their faces, than a herd of two hundred elk making their stately way chest-deep in the snowbound pasture toward the river? Best of all, what accompanies each snowstorm is the knowledge that the aquifer is getting replenished, that summer wildfire fear is assuaged, if not abated, that the rivers will be full of trout and the pastures full of flowers come July.”

“Could a person mourn and be joyful simultaneously? I understood it as the challenge of the twenty-first century. Maybe it was simply what being a grown up meant.”

This memoir from Pam Houston centers around a 120-acre southern Colorado ranch she fell in love with. She bought it for only 5% down from a sympathetic owner, with money the author made from her successful debut, Cowboys Are My Weakness. Sprinkled throughout are vignettes from the ranch, like how to deal with a difficult ram, and the decline of a beloved dog. She overcame a horrible childhood, salvaged by a god's gift nanny, and worked all over the world in various wilderness-related jobs, often as a trail guide. She finances the ranch payments by teaching writing seminars all over the country and abroad, recruiting ranch caretakers for her times of absence from those she encounters.

A prevailing theme is in the first three quotes: our planet is in dire straits, yet still contains wonders. Can we mourn and be joyful simultaneously? Are we just going to drop it off at the vet's, or is there more we can do?

She writes honestly, and beautifully, and has an amazing supply of experiences to draw her stories from. Many thanks to Mark and others for pointing me to this one. My wife started reading it as soon as I was finished. It would get five stars except I thought the author went on too long, with extraneous detail, about a wildfire that threatens the ranch and affects her deeply. So half star off, but others might not be so critical.

Yesterday, 8:06pm Top

>120 jnwelch: I found that as I've aged some books and shows just seem to go into repeats of same-same, which is what happened to me on both the Sharpe TV series and the Poldark books. And while I've read the Game of Thrones novels, the TV series didn't catch me. Partly it's that I can't hear the dialog most of the time, also the fashion for low lighting/dark visuals gives me eyestrain.

Boromir's fate was well known, and course Stark was too stupid to live, so his demise in the book didn't bother me at all. I think those are the only two I've seen, though I understand there are almost 2 dozen.

Yesterday, 8:45pm Top

>124 streamsong: I would be happy if my local library system had 1 copy of it. There is not a copy to be found here.

>126 jnwelch: Adding that one to the BlackHole!

>127 jnwelch: I get to dodge that BB because Mark already hit me.

Yesterday, 9:10pm Top

As usual - it's difficult for me to keep up with your thread.. I'd best get here now before you're on to a new thread ;-)

Love the artwork up top!

I need to get back to Paper Girls.

Yesterday, 11:19pm Top

>127 jnwelch: I'm glad you enjoyed Deep Creek so much, Joe. I also loved it. I even loved the long tale of the wildfire; it was so visceral and vivid (is that redundant? -- I don't think so...). Anyway, I'm glad to see it getting love in these parts.

I admit that I'm only skimming through your thread, giving the café a quick perusal. I had one helluva week at work although I was very proud that I went to yoga three evenings. P was out of town so I was flying solo -- I rather enjoyed it but it's good to have her home, too. Anyway, busy life, blah blah, so it goes.

Next week I'll be spending one night in Palm Springs, presenting at the University of Portland's Board retreat about college mental health. It will be a whirlwind trip but I'm looking forward to it.

I hope you're having a great weekend!

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