Combining/Separating (Please Fix This Book!) Request Thread #58

THIS THREAD is for LibraryThing Members, and especially for “beginners,” to ask help and learn about combining and separating specific LibraryThing Works.
-- If a book is combined with other, very different books.
-- If a book won’t combine with others just like it.
-- If problems with any Work are overwhelming, or maybe you just don’t have time.

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“Please combine:
#1: The Story of the Life of You
http://www.librarything.com/work/AAAAAAAA
http://www.librarything.com/work/BBBBBBBB
#2: The Story of the Life of Everyone Else
http://www.librarything.com/work/XXXXXXXX
http://www.librarything.com/work/YYYYYYYY
http://www.librarything.com/work/ZZZZZZZZ ”

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NOTES:
-- If two works have more than 200 records each, LibraryThing staff may need to do the combining. Please post these requests to: http://www.librarything.com/topic/95602 .
-- For information and discussion, but not problems, please see the Combiner’s Group Information, FAQ & Discussion Thread: http://www.librarything.com/topic/57164 .
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Have we addressed omargosh's question from post 197 in Thread #57, http://www.librarything.com/topic/154956#4214952 ?

2 > Nope, thanks for pulling it over. It may just be nobody knows, and that's fine. It was just unexpected, and I imagine it has to do with disambigs not causing a warning to appear on split pages.

I have a new question: I aliased devospatrick-1 to vospatrickde, but the work on the former page isn't showing up on the latter. I imagine it might have to do with the author being secondary or some-editions on that work, but don't recall problems in the past when aliasing secondary some-editions works. Anybody seen this before, or know what's going on? Thanks.

Manged to sort it myself. Post deleted

Manged to sort it myself. Post deleted.

> 4: I'm not sure when or how, but your copy of Rachel Kushner's The Flamethrowers was combined with others of its ilk by the time I got to it. It may be a consequence of what those-who-better-understand call "caching" -- essentially, the LT server's playing catch-up. Sometimes it just takes a few minutes; less often, hours; (very, very) occasionally, days. If you tried to edit your record to add the Author's name, however, it doesn't look like that happened. You might try again, and please let us know if we can help.

> 5: Again, this one was sorted out by the time I got to it, but we may still want to clarify the Primary and Main Authors for the overall Work record. My preference would be to show NoViolet Bulawayo as the Primary Author, described as "Pseudonym" (pick "Other" on the drop-down menu, and you should get a pop-up dialogue box), with Elizabeth Z. Tshele as a second Main Author for all editions, added under "Other Authors" about half-way down the Works Main Page. Again, give it a shot, and let us

ETA: Well, there you go! Thanks for asking, just the same.

Someone has combined "The Lord of Chaos" with four of the partial books.
http://www.librarything.com/work/16624

Good work on the cleaning up of the 1st msg btw, @jasbro. I was trying to play with it and just got stuck, sorry.

>7 Avron: wow, 5 canonical titles!

I have no clue what to do with that though, in quick search I can't find any edition that shouldn't be there.

Can you provide ISBN's or exact title/author combinations?

Or is someone already doing this one?

> 7/9: I get the impression that the German edition was split in four (and now got recombined with the "mother load"). Is that stating the problem correctly? I'm hesitant to work on this while I'm sot sure.

Please combine

Secons Away by Harlan Coben
http://www.librarything.com/work/12701490/summary

with

Nu of nooit by Harlan Coben

http://www.librarything.com/work/14108287/summary/100511528

thanks

If you go to the Author's page, in the right hand column, at the bottom, under Improve this author, you see Combine/separate works. From there you can combine these translations when they don't show up under suggested combinations at the work level editions.

Yes, thank you, Jerry!

graag gedaan.

These should be combined:

http://www.librarything.com/author/glasglowellen

and

http://www.librarything.com/work/232325

#15 Combined with what?

Ellen Glasglow with Ellen Glasgow, and then Glasglows two copies of The Romantic Comedians with Glasgows 46.

Done.

When I entered my copies of scores of J S Bach's Mass in B Minor and St Matthew Passion, I discovered that these two works have been combined into one. See http://www.librarything.com/work/629730/editions/100437320.

There are so many editions, it will a long job to separate them out. Is there a quicker way of doing this than separating the editions one by one?

18>

Unfortunately not - Combiners have been requesting a ticky-box approach (check a bunch of editions, and separate them all out as a single distinct work) for years but Tim's not interested. (Some comments he's made indicate he doesn't really understand the "good data is its own reward" mindset of Combiners.) But posting it here means you can at least get help so you don't have to do it by yourself!

Thanks for the info. I'll make a little start on it as a distraction from what I should be doing (packing), but if others can help too, that would be great!

> 18, 20: If & when you can you, gennyt, please add guidance as to how other Combiners! can best help.

> 19: "{G}ood data is its own reward" -- I like that! Can I use it as a mantra?

Thank you both!

21> Of course!

22> Yeah.

I have been making a start on separating the obviously entirely different works

St Matthew Passion = Matthäus-Passion = The passion of Our Lord according to St. Matthew (and numerous other variations on the title) http://www.librarything.com/work/629730

from

Mass in B Minor = B Minor Mass = Messe in h-moll = Missa Symbolum Nicenum, Sanctus, Osanna, Benedictus, Agnus Dei et Dona nobis pacem genannt: Messe in h-Mol (ditto on variations) http://www.librarything.com/work/14099568

as the conflation of these two is the most disconcerting thing. And it is relatively easy to spot which is which.

However, there are further complications in cataloguing music scores.

a) There is the need to distinguish sound recordings from scores - I see that there is already a helpful disambiguation notice politely asking people to specify in the title if their 'edition'/'book' is in fact a sound recording. For now, if it does not specify 'sound recording'/CD or something, I'm treating it as a score, but at some point I guess someone should check each one to see if there are further details in the Book Details which identify it as something other than a score.

b) Should vocal scores and full scores be treated as the same work? They are both version of the same work musically speaking ( I suppose the vocal score could be regarded as an abridgement of the full score), but does anyone know if there are agreed conventions on LT how to handle this?

Among the many editions in the catalogue, some specify full score, some vocal score, and some do not say what they are, so it would be hard to separate them anyway.

(Methinks I am getting obsessed with a problem that I really should not be worrying about just at present - I have other far more urgent tasks to be doing, but at times like these it is tempting to hide in minutiae!)

Go pack, and let the vocal/full score rest for when they are properly separated.. ;)

I can't seem to combine my book (The Creation of Bridges)
http://www.librarything.com/work/11954786/book/80110074

with
http://www.librarything.com/work/418337

It worked, thanks!

Here's one for the Master Combiners! who would think on such things:

The text is clearly Clement Clarke Moore, and the illustrations are all Jim Davis'. Still, reluctant as I was reluctant to list Moore as the Primary Author (but I did it anyway), it just seems wrong to combine Garfield's Night Before Christmas with Moore's The Night Before Christmas as the main Work.

To combine, or not to combine? That is the question. And the answer(s) is/are ... ?

OK; I think I have my own answer, just by following my own touchstones. If we're cataloging and combining the Maggie Swanson-illustrated A Scratch & Sniff Night Before Christmas as a distinct Clement Clarke Moore Work, separate from other illustrator/editions of the same text, it stands to reason that Jim Davis' variation on the theme gets substantially the same treatment. Any objection(s)?

@Collectorator mentioned here she did stuff with the Night before xmas.
See also this topic for more thoughts.

#29

We decided a few months ago that in certain works, illustrators matter. I think that there is a catch-all when the illustrator is not known but all the others are separated out.

Yes, if the illustrations are of same/similar/more importance as/than the text - in other words: if they're sufficiently distinguishing. For a mostly visual book it makes sense.

Not sure these qualify (it will probably always be a fine line anyway), but in absence of further info I wouldn't combine.

Consider the case of a book with illustrations and no text. There are more than a few children's books like that. Would you combine all of them because the "text" is the same.

> 35: I'm not sure this was the point of my question; but, in any case, I think different illustrations with no text are self-evidently different works, just as different song, photographs, etc. Here, I was concerned specifically about "same-texts," and I like Collectorator's "materially-different-illustrators" approach. Next questions: does it also apply to Mervyn Peake's illustrations of Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, or editions featuring Barry Moser's illustrations for literary masterpieces such as Dracula, Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, Frankenstein, and the Holy Bible?

But all no-text works do have the same text. Or how about all the alphabet books where the text is A, B, C etc.

37 > Cataloging is full of edge cases. Let's not get sidetracked by straw men.

37> That's not really an edge case it's an extreme case. If there's no text then obviously determining whether two books are the same work is going to depend completely of the illustrations. The other extreme case is when a book is all text and no illustrations. The edge cases are where there is some of each and trying to determine where to draw the line.

> 36: Next questions: does it also apply to Mervyn Peake's illustrations of Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, &c.

No, I think not, because these are still essentially textual books. Some are lavishly and beautifully illustrated - I have Barry Moser's Alice editions for example and they're wonderful, but they're still just editions of the Alice books.

Let's continue this discussion in this topic - so this topic stays with 'simple' combination requests.

My copy of this book http://www.librarything.com/work/13588812/summary/94681972 does not show up on the author page of Alfred Haverkamp. Any idea why and how to fix it?

For some reason - and I absolutely can't judge if that's reasonable or not - your book shows up on the "Peter Moraw" author page.

If you're absolutely certain - and I don't doubt you, I'm "merely" clueless about that work myself - you can always fix these things using the "other authors" feature.

>44 Nicole_VanK: Thanks. Strictly speaking, it's part of a series, but each volume is a standalone. Peter Moraw is the overall editor for the series. I'll take a look at this.

Came across this one, which appears to be a combination of two distinct books as one work. As a new combiner I have no idea how to even begin tackling this one.

http://www.librarything.com/work/2792780

They're not just one work, which can be remedied by separating, but someone has entered them as one book. There's nothing that can be done. Just don't combine it with either of the component books.

>44 Nicole_VanK: I see you already took care of it. Thank you so much!

please combine
1 0-copy
http://www.librarything.com/work/5830277
http://www.librarything.com/work/7439908

thanks

#49 done

I have identified a lot of zero copies that need to be combined with the appropriate works. None of my easy solutions have worked. Sorry there are so many. I'll split them up across numerous posts.

1 Kwatrijnen van Omar Khayyam : voorafgegaan door een beschouwing over de Perzische dichter by J. H. Leopold
http://www.librarything.com/work/141 50689
http://www.librarything.com/work/141 50693

2 The Rubáiyát of Omar Khayyám, and, the Saláman and Absál of Jámí by Edward Fitzgerald (Translator)
http://www.librarything.com/work/14126459
http://www.librarything.com/work/14144211

3 Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam and other writings by Edward Fitzgerald
http://www.librarything.com/work/8234597
http://www.librarything.com/work/14130430

4 The Rubáiyát of Omar Khayyám, rendered in English verse by Edward FitzGerald (Translator)
http://www.librarything.com/work/9040086
http://www.librarything.com/work/14130193
http://www.librarything.com/work/14141350
http://www.librarything.com/work/14141353
http://www.librarything.com/work/14141596
http://www.librarything.com/work/14141597
http://www.librarything.com/work/14141598

More FitzGerald/Khayyam:

The Rubáiyát of Omar Khayyám, rendered in English verse by Edward FitzGerald (Translator)
http://www.librarything.com/work/9040086
http://www.librarything.com/work/14143402
http://www.librarything.com/work/14143417
http://www.librarything.com/work/14143478
http://www.librarything.com/work/14143480
http://www.librarything.com/work/14143587
http://www.librarything.com/work/14143600
http://www.librarything.com/work/14143601
http://www.librarything.com/work/14143602
http://www.librarything.com/work/14143604
http://www.librarything.com/work/14143605
http://www.librarything.com/work/14143608
http://www.librarything.com/work/14143616

More FitzGerald/Khayyam:

The Rubáiyát of Omar Khayyám, rendered in English verse by Edward FitzGerald (Translator)
http://www.librarything.com/work/9040086
http://www.librarything.com/work/14144240
http://www.librarything.com/work/14144241
http://www.librarything.com/work/14144246
http://www.librarything.com/work/14144257
http://www.librarything.com/work/14144262
http://www.librarything.com/work/14144267
http://www.librarything.com/work/14144325
http://www.librarything.com/work/14144576
http://www.librarything.com/work/14144645

More FitzGerald/Khayyam:

The Rubáiyát of Omar Khayyám, rendered in English verse by Edward FitzGerald (Translator)
http://www.librarything.com/work/9040086
http://www.librarything.com/work/14145902
http://www.librarything.com/work/14145903
http://www.librarything.com/work/14145904
http://www.librarything.com/work/14145907
http://www.librarything.com/work/14145982
http://www.librarything.com/work/14145983
http://www.librarything.com/work/14145986
http://www.librarything.com/work/14146134
http://www.librarything.com/work/14146135
http://www.librarything.com/work/14146538
http://www.librarything.com/work/14146615

More FitzGerald/Khayyam:

The Rubáiyát of Omar Khayyám, rendered in English verse by Edward FitzGerald (Translator)
http://www.librarything.com/work/9040086
http://www.librarything.com/work/14146651
http://www.librarything.com/work/14146652
http://www.librarything.com/work/14146658
http://www.librarything.com/work/14146659
http://www.librarything.com/work/14146699
http://www.librarything.com/work/14146717
http://www.librarything.com/work/14146736
http://www.librarything.com/work/14146830
http://www.librarything.com/work/14146936
http://www.librarything.com/work/14146956
http://www.librarything.com/work/14146975
http://www.librarything.com/work/14146976
http://www.librarything.com/work/14146977
http://www.librarything.com/work/14146995

More FitzGerald/Khayyam:

The Rubáiyát of Omar Khayyám, rendered in English verse by Edward FitzGerald (Translator)
http://www.librarything.com/work/9040086
http://www.librarything.com/work/14147005
http://www.librarything.com/work/14147023
http://www.librarything.com/work/14147025
http://www.librarything.com/work/14147028
http://www.librarything.com/work/14147030
http://www.librarything.com/work/14147031
http://www.librarything.com/work/14147033
http://www.librarything.com/work/14147036
http://www.librarything.com/work/14147038
http://www.librarything.com/work/14147042
http://www.librarything.com/work/14147044
http://www.librarything.com/work/14147049
http://www.librarything.com/work/14147050

More FitzGerald/Khayyam:

The Rubáiyát of Omar Khayyám, rendered in English verse by Edward FitzGerald (Translator)
http://www.librarything.com/work/9040086
http://www.librarything.com/work/14147061
http://www.librarything.com/work/14147065
http://www.librarything.com/work/14147068
http://www.librarything.com/work/14147069
http://www.librarything.com/work/14147095
http://www.librarything.com/work/14147283
http://www.librarything.com/work/14147290
http://www.librarything.com/work/14147297
http://www.librarything.com/work/14147303
http://www.librarything.com/work/14149502

Last one: FitzGerald/Khayyam:

The Rubáiyát of Omar Khayyám, rendered in English verse by Edward FitzGerald (Translator)
http://www.librarything.com/work/9040086
http://www.librarything.com/work/1415 0140
http://www.librarything.com/work/1415 0674
http://www.librarything.com/work/14150758
http://www.librarything.com/work/14150762
http://www.librarything.com/work/14150766
http://www.librarything.com/work/1415 0767
http://www.librarything.com/work/14150769
http://www.librarything.com/work/14157128

51-58 > tl;dr

59 > Just teasing (and trying to get you back :-p)

51-58 > I think I got most of them. Since a lot of them had lots of Other-Authoring done on them, there are now a lot of duplicates entries that need to be removed (I think on all but the first work you listed). I figured I would leave that to you since you have a better idea of all the different editions, though I did have a few doubts. 1) I think the some-editions editor is George F. Maine instead of George F. Maines. That's the name I'm seeing more often in the editions, and also on WorldCat. 2) I think the Dutch copies with F.P. Huygens and Johan/Jan/John Weiland were illustrated and translated by Weiland with a foreword or introduction by Huygens. WorldCat isn't clear to me, but that's at least what I got by Google Translating one of the descriptions here (and another page that of course I can no longer find).

Finally, I didn't combine this one http://www.librarything.com/work/14146538/editions because it also included the Kasidah by Haji Abdu El-Yezdi/Burton. You're cleaning up that author/work next, right? ;-) Kidding again.

60 > Thanks :-)

Yes, I'm still cleaning up the Other Authors and such. And asking myself why I was insane enough to start the whole project to begin with.

Good catch on the Kasidah. Yes, that one needs to be matched up with something else. I'll go find it.

60 > Ok, The Kasidah plus the Rubaiyat

http://www.librarything.com/work/14146538

should go with:

http://www.librarything.com/work/14146537

Here's a last few zero copies that I missed the first time around:

The Rubáiyát of Omar Khayyám, rendered in English verse by Edward FitzGerald (Translator)
http://www.librarything.com/work/9040086

http://www.librarything.com/work/14149393
http://www.librarything.com/work/14141602
http://www.librarything.com/work/14141600
http://www.librarything.com/work/14141601

Ok, got the Kasidah+Rubaiyat zero-copy combined, threw a "containership" work-to-work relationship in, wrangled up some Kasidah orphans and combined Sir Richard Francis Burton with Haji Abdu El-Yezdi (since apparently it's just a pseudonym), and also combined the remaining zero-copies you posted in 63 with the FitzGerald work. The FitzGerald work now still needs some more Other-Author clean-up.

64 > Thank you kindly!

You're welcome!

Re: the dutch thing your analysis is correct.
Joh. typically stands for Johannes I believe.

Hello to whatever computer genies who are here. I am having a hard time with a book I entered manually. The Iron King by Julie Kagawa. I entered it manually because I have a hard time finding the audio edition. I bought mine from Audible, and want my copy to reflect that it is an audio book, not a print version. Is there any way to fix this? Would you be willing to either fix it, or tell me how in my profile comments? Thank you!

To LT, audio versions, if unabridged, get combined with the book versions. To note for yourself that it is an audio book you can add something to your title to show that. You can either use square or { brackets.

#67 by @JerryMmm>
Thanks! I did a little more massaging on the O-As. I think it's better now.

Please combine:

http://www.librarything.com/work/5060326/summary

and

http://www.librarything.com/work/14162147/book/101032918

Thanks!

Hi,

I can't combine Umbrella by Will Self because this edition doesn't show up in his works, although the book page links to his author profile.
http://www.librarything.com/work/5697353/101040415

The main listing is here:
http://www.librarything.com/work/12833412

> 73: Fixed.

24> For now, if it does not specify 'sound recording'/CD or something, I'm treating it as a score

I have a considerable library of scores, and it drives me crazy that they are routinely combined with recordings. I've spent quite of bit of time over the years separating scores from recordings, and just to make my life easier I almost always append "score" to my titles (in brackets, of course).

In any case, in my experience there are far more recordings cataloged than scores; so odds are that an ambiguous item is a recording.

75> Your first and last sentences seem to contradict each other. That is if you think that if the odds are that an ambiguous item is a recording why would you treat it as a score?

I don't know what happened here:

http://www.librarything.com/author/lincolnabraham-5

But I wondered if someone could combine it with President Lincoln.

Much obliged.

No need to combine it, just reassign the division to the first Abe.

Not sure how to separate this baby book from Thoreau:

http://www.librarything.com/work/4187303/editions#

79>

Looks like someone's already fixed it, since all I see there is the Thoreau. (The baby book will continue to show up as a suggested combination, since there's a shared ISBN, and I hit 'recalculate cover' so the baby book cover should eventually stop showing up.)

81>

I don't understand. It's not showing up as an edition, which is what I thought barney67 meant; as both you and I said, it will always show up as a suggested combination, so what's the "Nope" referring to?

I recently created a new account to house unique cover images, particularly if there are only one or two people with the book. This has lead to a problem which I don't think is my fault, but I have no idea how to fix it, and I'd like someone here to fix it for me.

I added four vintage Catholic school readers to my new account. Their covers are unique to each grade, but for some reason, the image of one of them-but not the correct one- is the only one available in "member uploaded covers/choose this cover", even though on my primary account there's a different image for each volume.

Here's one:
http://www.librarything.com/work/1539278/book/6404728 (the correct cover)
but when I added it to my new account it looks like: http://www.librarything.com/work/6832305/book/101231811 (no cover - the only cover to chose is the wrong one)

Additionally, on the Add books page for my new account (StSimonJude) it says "There is another version of this work in Your books" when there isn't!

Thank you for your help.

Here's another:
Misericordia Reader: Sixth Reader with the correct cover
http://www.librarything.com/work/4723235

but on my new account
http://www.librarything.com/work/6832305/book/101232376
there is not the correct image to chose...it's the image for the First Reader, in case that matters.

Thank you in advance for straightening these out...they seem to be combining themselves into one work or something.

And another thing:
On this page http://www.librarything.com/work/6832305/101214196, for the Third Reader, it says

Your other editions
Misericordia Readers: Sixth Reader by Sisters of Mercy
Misericordia readers: First Reader by Sisters of Mercy

But these books are separate works. They are not "other editions".

Thank you for your help.

#86

I think that the dreaded 20 digit rule was into play since all the readers were autocombined. I've separated and recombined with some of the correct ones. (There is no title search capability right now so I can't check to be sure I have them all.)

The covers might take a day or two to catch up but they should be OK.

Most likely the problem is because LT programming doesn't pay attention to anything after the colon in the title. All it "saw" was Misericordia Readers by Sisters of Mercy, so as far as it's concerned, they're one work and you have multiple copies of it.

As to covers, they will show immediately on the book entry for which you uploaded it, but will be invisible for as long as a few days for any other copy. If you want to use the same cover for multiple copies of a book, it's best to wait until it shows up. Many people don't realize that there's a lag time, so they wind up uploading multiple versions of the same cover.

You could try hitting Recalcuate editions or Recalculate cover, but it still might take a day or two for everything to settle.

>85 StSimonJude:, 86 -- additionally, the author page http://www.librarything.com/author/thesistersofmercy-1
has each work listed separately. So I don't understand why the cover pictures won't stay with their correct work.

Please combine
http://www.librarything.com/work/1623428
http://www.librarything.com/work/14170037/book/101105059

For some reason, even though the author is the same, the two books do not show up together on the one author page.

Thank you.

#90 Done This was a case of one person entering as Mother Michelle and the other as Michelle, Mother.

Also I'm still trying to straighten out the Sisters of Mercy author page. It does take some time for the covers to get to the correct works but it will be OK in a few days.

>91 fdholt: That was me, entering one as Mother Michelle and the other as Michelle, Mother. I couldn't remember how I'd done it the first time...and ...oh well. My secondary account is >90 StSimonJude:, etc. (StSimonJude)

Thanks for your help!

Please put these together:
http://www.librarything.com/work/14170066/book/101105282
http://www.librarything.com/work/1571432/book/6589100

Thank you.

Here's a stray zero copy:

The Hobbit, abridged audio
http://www.librarything.com/work/14184256
http://www.librarything.com/work/14184270

What is the recommended way to enter authors like Mother Michelle? It feels a bit off to enter them as Michelle, Mother.

#94 by @PhaedraB> Done.

Oops, forgot to report: #93 done.

What is the recommended way to enter authors like Mother Michelle?
If her surname is "Michelle" and her first name is "Mother" then by all means enter it as "Michelle, Mother". Otherwise, enter it as "Mother Michelle". Likewise Ordnance Survey should be entered as "Ordnance Survey" not "Survey, Ordnance" -- since its surname isn't Survey.

That said, there is a lot of data in there that has been entered as "Survey, Ordnance" thanks to our friends at Amazon. Amazon doesn't use last, first format, and assumes that the last word of any author's name is the surname, so when it gets imported into LibraryThing it comes in as Lastword, All The First Words.

(Other opinions may exist. I speak only from my own strongly held point of view.)

83>

Gotcha, thanks. I thought by "baby book" you meant the actual book rather than the cover image.

>98 r.orrison: Thanks! I've wondered that myself...if I was correct or not...and then I'd forget which way the next time. Hearing a STRONGLY held point of view will help it stick in my memory for the next time!

These need to be united

http://www.librarything.com/work/4973014
http://www.librarything.com/work/14183833/book/101233086

(I tried to do it - the author's the same, the title is the same, but for some reason they won't go!)

Thanks.

#101 Done The second work had the author misspelled. Even though you corrected it in your catalog, it didn't corrrect on the site. I did a recalculate title/author to get the author corrected.

Please combine

http://www.librarything.com/work/1539278/book/101231811
http://www.librarything.com/work/1539278/book/6404728

>103 StSimonJude: I requested the combination because it says only 1 book, when it should say 2. I.e. two members have it.

Please combine

http://www.librarything.fr/work/12323203
http://www.librarything.fr/work/176849

These are French and English editions of the same book.

Please combine
http://www.librarything.com/work/12917184/book/101104427
http://www.librarything.com/work/1905251/book/8370180

The Second Sex, Simone de Beauvoir

I'm trying to connect this work/book from my collection:
http://www.librarything.com/work/14185235/77488833
(this is the new Borde/Malovany-Chevallier translation)

With this page:
http://www.librarything.com/work/5493/editions
(which seems to be the correct edition for this translation)

(Please read the disambiguation notice on the edition page above before trying to interpret the rest of this message. There are two separate translations, one abridged, one complete, that have been (correctly) separated. I'm trying to separate my copies accordingly but can't get it to work.)

Details: I have THREE copies of The Second Sex by Simone de Beauvoir. Two are the earlier, abridged, Parshley translation. The one I've listed above is the NEW Complete Unabridged Borde/Malovany-Chevallier translation.

I've (temporarily) added disambiguating information in the title field to distinguish the three books in my collection. Unfortunately, I cannot seem to get the new translation to combine properly with others of that edition. (Part of the problem is that my copy uses the 13-digit ISBN 9780307277787 rather than the 10-digit so I'm not sure what goes with what.)

I keep getting the message that I don't own this new translation . . .

Thanks in advance!

(And let me know if this falls under the "LT Staff must handle" category . . . there are many copies of the old translation, not so many of this new one . . . so I wasn't sure.)

my other two copies (the old translation) are:
http://www.librarything.com/work/12014183/26309789
and
http://www.librarything.com/work/12014183/26309727

#103 I can't figure out why it says there is only one book when the editins page clearly shows 2 books. Both your books are clearly book #1539278.

#105 Tried to access your links and got into a circle. Leaving for someone who can figure out what is wrong. I should have gone to the fr site.

#106 done

#107 done

Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!

> 105: Done.

Somebody undid BarkingMatt's good work on splitting Lorenzo de' Medici
http://www.librarything.com/author_split.php?author=demedicilorenzo&page=ass...
There is a namesake born in 1951 who writes historical fiction in Spanish, I looked him up at the National Library of Spain http://catalogo.bne.es/uhtbin/authoritybrowse.cgi?action=display&authority_i...

The German National Library lists him with four works in several editions. http://catalogo.bne.es/uhtbin/authoritybrowse.cgi?action=display&authority_i...

I would attempt to assign titles, but I'm wary of the dividing authors procedure or writing the disambiguation notices...

Please combine...or something. I want to add a cover picture, and
http://www.librarything.com/work/979318/101299458 doesn't show it as available, but one of the other members with that book has it
http://www.librarything.com/work/979318/101165640

Yes. The work number is the same. It's very frustrating that the cover image doesn't show up as available.
I think BarkingMatt fixed a similar combining request for me earlier. (Thank you very much, btw)

Oops, it was fdholt...thanks for fixing # 106!

This may just require waiting for something to happen automatically, but I can't figure out why this:
http://www.librarything.com/work/14182342/101214367
says I'm the only one who has it, but when I go to the author page I see four other copies and no indication that I own anything by this author:
http://www.librarything.com/author/galleryalbrightknoxa

Anyway, just wondering why my copy says I'm the only one who has it, but clearly that is not true . . . I tried "recalculate author", but that didn't seem to change anything . . .I also couldn't see anything on the combine page to combine . . .

Thanks in advance.

116 >

Well, I just went to the Editions page for your book & combined it with another four copies that were suggested as possible combinations.

Could be any number of reasons, including small variations in author name that wasn't linking up correctly. See if it's ok now.

>112 MissWatson:: I resplit Lorenzo de Medici in such a way that the modern Spanish author is now separate.

I will have to do some checking on the other ones, since there was more than one Lorenzo in the famous Italian family. So, maybe not all is by Lorenzo 'the Magnificent'. (I can't believe I apparently forgot to do so last time).

Lorenza de Medici, author of "Pasta" has apparently been corrected and no longer shows on that page.

> 113/115: Sorry, this time it defeats me too. (And the books seem properly combined). I did hit recalculate cover a couple of times. You never know. Maybe that will make it update, but it's not immediate.

>118 Nicole_VanK: Thank you so much!

#116 Before seeing #118's reply, I tried the same things. It may take a day or 2 to catch up. If that doesn't work, you may be able to copy the image to your computer and then upload.

>113 StSimonJude:, 115 So here's the latest. SaintSunniva's page for

http://www.librarything.com/work/5714776/101165640 shows TWO covers to chose from

but on my page

http://www.librarything.com/work/5714776/101299458, only ONE cover is displayed, and it's not the one I need.

Thank you for your help...unless this is one of those cacheing issues...which will straighten itself out in a day or two.

>116 LucindaLibri: "Anyway, just wondering why my copy says I'm the only one who has it, but clearly that is not true."

All I can say is, I've wondered the exact same thing.

Sometimes it never clears up unless I ask Combiners! to fix it.

The covers take a few days to show up for use on entries other than the exact one for which they were uploaded.

If you keep an eye on the Recent Member-uploaded Covers for Your Books module on your home page, you can snag it from there once it propagates through the system.

It could also be a combining issue, but you can tell that by looking at the editions page. If your book is combined with the one with the cover, it'll show up. If it's been more than a week, then maybe dig deeper.

More zero copies to combine with the main work:

Road to War
Richard J Overy & Andrew Wheatcroft

http://www.librarything.com/work/21300
http://www.librarything.com/work/14197620
http://www.librarything.com/work/14197622

#124 by @PhaedraB>
Done.

125 Thanks :-)

I haven't been able to combine these:
http://www.librarything.com/work/14057064/101505312
http://www.librarything.com/work/12572479

> 127: Combined now.

Just ran across this:
http://www.librarything.com/work/3022805
should be combined with the other copies of
Go Gator and Muddy the Water by Zora Neale Hurston, but doesn't seem to be.
My copy is:
http://www.librarything.com/work/76703
It seems fine.

I think the problem is that in 3022805 the author's name is included in the title rather than in the author field . . . but I don't know how to fix that . . .

Never mind, I figured out how to fix it . ..

#129 Done

Unfortunately, there are lots of name in titles that need to be combined!

Just for the record, what I did was edit the "add author" field on the work page . . . changed the primary author . . . I also changed the CK Canonical Title . . . after that it seemed to combine on it's own . . .

> 130 Did you do something else while I was doing those things?

#131 possibly - I just combined the two work numbers. At that point, there was no author on the second work and no canonical title change.

Hmmm . . . when I tried to do that I couldn't find separate listings to combine . . .
So I guess I need some instruction . . . How do you combine two works when one of them has no author? (I do all my combining from the author page, (so there was nothing there to combine . . . all the versions of Go Gator were already combined) . . . is there somewhere that explains another method?)

Thanks!

Okay, I think this explains it : http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/Book_combining
Were you able to combine the Gators from the Editions section? . . . I had never tried that method. Learn something new every day :)

Please combine

http://www.librarything.com/work/13258526

Magician's End by Raymond Feist

with

http://www.librarything.com/work/14221635/summary/101619919

Het einde van de magiër by Raymond Feist

I tried, but it did not work.

> 134: Done.

Thanks Matt!

Combining has been a bit wonky the past day or two. Sometimes I've had to do the same thing several times. Just had a terrible time with what should have been a straight-forward author combination.

Problem - Cover depicted is for another title...

So I was looking at books about Syria and found this one
http://www.librarything.com/work/1872255#
The page is for Syria: Neither Bread nor Freedom by Alan George.
The cover is for a different book Jordan: Living in the Crossfire by Alan George - touchstone not working.

There's no disambiguation notice - are these the same work but two titles, which seems unlikely as they are about 2 different countries...

140> :Amazon has the wrong image on their page. I have reported it to them.

Hello

Please combine
http://www.librarything.com/work/14241661

http://www.librarything.com/work/2382027

Thanks Jeff

Please could someone combine

http://www.librarything.de/work/14249800/book/101882310 (book)
http://www.librarything.de/author/spencercm (author)

Thanks a lot

> 143: I'm not sure I understand your request. One link leads to the Work, the other to the Author -- with the same Work listed among her Works. What should we be combining?

Oh, it's already fixed. When I clicked yesterday on the booke page to the author. It wasn't linked to CM Spencer but to Cathy Spencer. Now it works.
Thanks anyway :-D

Very good, then. Thanks for your first post, and for the update too.

Please could someone combine these authors. The first is the main author page, while the second just has one copy of one of his books.

http://www.librarything.com/author/ostrovskynikolai
http://www.librarything.com/author/ostrovskiinikolai

148 > Thanks

Please combine:
http://www.librarything.com/work/1879107
http://www.librarything.com/work/11573662

And maybe the combiner could send me a PM with instructions as to how to do this in the future? Thanks.

That one's easy: click "Editions" on the left side of one of those pages, click on "(combine/separate potentials)", tick the ones that you want to combine, and click "Combine works". I've left it for you to do.

re: 151

Gah, so simple! Thanks =)

Please combine this author's works with this other book - they are the same author.

February by Lisa Moore

http://www.librarything.com/work/8327252

with this

Caught by Lisa Moore

http://www.librarything.com/work/13390912

153>

Different books should most definitely not be combined with one another, and "Caught" and "February" are both assigned to the same division of "Lisa Moore" (there are multiple authors by that name on LT.) I'm not seeing anything here that needs to be done.

#153: Are they the same book, with a different title? Otherwise, why should they be combined? Just asking.

>153 vancouverdeb:. Done.

Take a look at the author division page and make any other adjustments where appropriate:
http://www.librarything.com/author_split.php?author=moorelisa&page=assign

#156 Since I did the disambiguation notice on Moore, I assigned the rest of the works and added info. Thanks.

Sorry, I still can't figure out how to do these combination issues.

http://www.librarything.com/author/panichasgeorge-1/issues

>158 barney67: Someone else must have gotten to it first, not seeing anymore issues there or on the disambiguation page http://www.librarything.com/author/panichasgeorge

1) http://www.librarything.com/author/georgeepanichas
2) http://www.librarything.com/author/panichasgeorgea
3) http://www.librarything.com/author/panichasgeorgeandrew
4) http://www.librarything.com/author/panichasga
5) http://www.librarything.com/author/georgeepanichas

1 and 5 belong together. (George E. Panichas)

2, 3, and 4 belong together. George Andrew Panichas (George A.)

None of the pages has everything it is supposed to, including the link in 159. I thought I put some Common Knowledge in George Andrew Panichas, but maybe not. If someone can make sense of the links above, then I'll add the common knowledge.

Having trouble with this one:

http://www.librarything.com/author/nisbetrobert/issues

Looks like someone has incorrectly combined Warren Ellis's Global Frequency, or it was never separated correctly.

http://www.librarything.com/work/90705/

The CK shows that it is the omnibus edition, yet quite clearly (by editions) the work also includes the first book of the non-omnibus edition (Planet Ablaze). I am just off out so haven't got the time to look at it immediately.

165> yes, a mess. I've done part of it.

I've also added some more CK in the hope that that will help prevent a next time.

#160 Plain George Panichas represents George A. Even though right now it is only the one author, could this be aliased so these works are on the George A. page?

I really don't like aliasing. What's the advantage?

#169 All the author's works are on the same page - however you do not change the author name.

#169 People also get married, divorced, use pseudonymns, etc. It is sometimes easier to alias, especially if one of the names is what I call "trivial" - John Jones or the like. There are too many to safely combine that kind of name.

171 -- "What you cannot do is combine authors with different names and then split them."

No, I agree, you can't do that and I don't. But the aliasing doesn't always seem to work. Or at least, when I come upon an author whose works have been aliased it's not obvious where the real page is with all the books that that author has written. It seems that sometimes not all the books get aliased, and you wind up with the same author having two different pages with two different lists of works. Probably it's not supposed to work that way, but I've seen it.

I also have to click through another page, after I first click on an author's name, to get to what I'm looking for. Sure, I know how it works, but I wonder if a beginner would be puzzled by it. It's one more step, one more click I have to make.

Sometime within the past week I split Max Ferdinand Scheler and Max G. Sheler and edited the division, numbering the right works according to author and so on. I added common knowledge to the former. I even wrote a disambiguation note. Today, I found that the two had been combined and that the common knowledge was gone. I don't know why these were combined after I split them and did all that work.

http://www.librarything.com/author/schelermax

Computers and Society : A Reader, by Teague and Erickson
https://www.librarything.com/work/2994352/book/102148801
ISBN: 0829900209 is listed in the book and on the LoC site.

has been confused with FORTRAN for Humans by Richard Didday.
The FORTRAN cover is shown on the Reader page.

#173 I have had to redo numerous times; the worst is when someone deletes the disambiguation notice and it has 20 forms of name on it. Think of it as job security.

#174 - done

175 -- I edited the division again, then when I returned to the author page the works were still undivided, as if my changes had no effect.

Another one I don't get.

http://www.librarything.com/author/schmittcarl/issues

http://www.librarything.com/author/schmittcarl

#178-9 The problem with the Max Scheler page is that someone set it to single author. Change to divided author and all will be OK.

Carl Schmitt has CK in various languages. Click on the Italian and the Russian and delete and/or move those.

#181 And he can't fix it until the checkmark is placed on divided author on the assignment page.

#166

Thanks MarthaJeanne. I've finished it off. Looks lots better now.

http://www.librarything.com/series/Grantville+Gazette

Several titles are listed under both Eric Flint and Paula Goodlett. These are pretty obviously the same books. (Flint created the Universe, Goodlett is the series editor.)

However, I can't see any way to actually combine them.

#185 I have the series page you listed cleaned up. However merging has caused some unusual results with the other series:
http://www.librarything.com/series/Assiti+Shards

Would you check? I think that there are two methods of adding each volume and it needs to be cleaned up.

Also I found more volumes at:
http://www.librarything.com/author/vancegarrettw

I assume these should be merged in as well as the numerous strays in a title search. I can get back to this later this evening unless someone else would like to continue.

Thanks

Perhaps ask the member who's been working on the series, they may have run into these problems before?

When I want to see the books of the author Cindy (http://www.librarything.com/author/cindy) I automatically end up on the page of the author Cindy Crabb (http://www.librarything.com/author/crabbcindy). I have no clue why this happens. As far as I can see, Cindy isn't combined with Cindy Crabb (http://www.librarything.com/author/crabbcindy/names). I have seen this happen before with authors that only have their first name mentioned.

How to seperate Cindy form Cindy Crabb? Any ideas?

By hovering over the links on the /names page to see the URLs, it was possible to see which one was really just Cindy. I've done that and separated that one out, and recalculated the author name on that page, so Cindy now has her own page, but I don't know what needs to be done next.

Is there a reason why The Annotated Lolita isn't combined with Lolita ?
It's just an edition with introduction and copious notes, like many editions of older classics.

Another similar case I ran into the other day:
Doctor Faustus (Norton Critical Editions) and Doctor Faustus

#190 Norton Critical editions are kept separate from books that just have the works. See this thread:
http://www.librarything.com/topic/56862#1076662

I know it has been discussed more recently but diidn't find it.

190 > There has always been fierce debate over how copious the additions must be before the edition constitutes a separate work. If any rule of thumb has emerged is that if the additions are substantial in the amount of, say, equal to or larger than the amount of text in the original, it is a separate work. The Norton Critical Editions do so regularly enough that they are all considered to be separate critters.

Thirty to fifty percent larger, would, in my personal opinion, also qualify, but I am hesitant to start editing wars.

At any rate, if you don't have the edition in front of you, comparing the page count at least gives some idea of how copious. After that, it's a judgment call.

#189 Thanks! So simple... Nothing needs to be done anymore, I had already combined the books that had just Cindy as author with the actual works.

Looking more at the books on http://www.librarything.com/author/cindy it seems likely that all of them were written by Cindy Crabb. Should Cindy be split and all books aliased to Cindy Crabb?

I am not sure if this is a combining problem or some other glitch but I thought I'd start here first. I recently added Where There's Love, There's Hate, by Adolfo Bioy Casares and Silvina Ocampo. My copy appears here: http://www.librarything.com/work/book/1023175111. When I added it, it showed 24 people already owned it. However, when I clicked on the author name, the title didn't show up under his name, under the English title or the original Spanish one, Los que aman, odian, and then when I went back to my copy to try to combine it with the other 24, using Editions, it showed that nobody else owned the book. I tried deleting the book and re-entering it but the same thing happened.

I am at a loss to figure this out. It seems there are 24 other copies out there but they're not listed on the author page, and my book seems to be orphaned. If this isn't a combination problem, I'll post it on Bug Collectors, but if any of you can figure this out that would be great.

>195 rebeccanyc: That's odd, also tried to add the book (but with ISBN 2267014726, a french translation), it also seemed to add fine mentioning 25 other listers on the add books page, but when going to the book page it also displays 0 holders and nothing on the editions page.

http://www.librarything.com/work/13654477/summary/102323452

I have posted this to the Bug Collectors group, http://www.librarything.com/topic/159445.

Dearest combiners, please combine the following pairs:

http://www.librarything.com/work/318895
http://www.librarything.com/work/4704641

http://www.librarything.com/work/1705675
http://www.librarything.com/work/696106

http://www.librarything.com/work/5744501
http://www.librarything.com/work/1138401

http://www.librarything.com/work/742589
http://www.librarything.com/work/784520

http://www.librarything.com/work/745682
http://www.librarything.com/work/4704644

#198 I think I got them all!

I have a work listed by the author's correct name rather than his generally-used pseudonym. Various combinations of his real name and pseudonym are already combined but I can't work out how to "force" it to accept mine.

The author is Dornford Yates, real name Cecil William Mercer.

The work by Cecil William Mercer is The Brother Of Daphne.

Can you please explain how to proceed? Thank you.

> 200: Done.

Ah, sorry, you wanted to know how. First I combined your version of the author name with the rest of them. Then I I went to the combine/separate page for the combined author page, two check boxes... Bob's your uncle.

How did you combine the two names? I thought I knew how but this time couldn't figure it out.

In the right hand column on any author page you find:

Combine with…

Search

I did that from the new author page you created - now a sub-page of the Dornford Yates page - because search sometimes has problems finding very new entries. So that was more likely to work than the other way around.

I tried that and still couldn't get it to work. Oh, well - next time. :)

Thanks!

>199 fdholt:

Looks good. Thanks!

And, with that, this thread is now CLOSED. Please continue our discussions at Combining/Separating (Please Fix This Book!) Request Thread #59 -- http://www.librarything.com/topic/159503 . Thank you!