Combining/Separating (Please Fix This Book!) Request Thread #56

**Please read as there have been modifications**
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This thread is for LT’ers or thingamabrarians, or members, or their designees, to post combining or separating problems with their books.

** If a book has been combined with a book that is extremely different from the original.
** If a book won’t combine with the other books just like it.
** There is a problem with the entry & it is just too overwhelming to deal with.

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WHEN YOU POST:

Give us the TITLE & author, plus any other information you think we might need & please NUMBER them if you post more than one.

Example:
..Please combine:

#1: The story of the life of you
http://www.librarything.com/work/XXXXXX
http://www.librarything.com/work/YYYYYYYY

#2: The story of the life of everyone else
http://www.librarything.com/work/WWWWW
http://www.librarything.com/work/ZZZZZZZZ

** Please do not give us search pages or author pages.
Give us concrete & specific works to be combined, not groups of possibles, unless you have questions. Series pages can be helpful.

** You can ask us to look at a set of works to ask our opinions or ask if someone with a specific language or subject knowledge look at your request, but please be brief.

** Make your request easy for yourself & for the combiners who will help you.

Then you can just wait, “and someone will be with you shortly.”
Please, keep in mind this work is done by volunteers, not LT staff.

*** If you number multiple requests, it makes it easier if someone can only work on part of a request.

*** If you edit your post to add new items to be combined, please indicate that they are new by preceding with “ETA:” or “Edit:”.

*** Also, please indicate when a request has been "DONE".
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Tim’s Guidelines for Proper Etiquette for contacting members about their book records:

“For this topic, I still feel strongly that I’d like to consider it bad form. Many others agree with me. But a few think I’m dictating and are angry about that. So, fine. Let’s just write some guidelines up. I propose that the guidelines be something along the lines of:

* Remember that LibraryThing is used for many different reasons. The way you use and enjoy the site is not necessarily the way others do.
* Be sensitive to how the member is using LibraryThing. Approach members who show no interest in the social side more cautiously.
* Try to provide helpful information and ask questions rather than dictating.
* If the user indicates displeasure at the request, let it drop.
* When in doubt, raise the issue in the Combiners! group before sending a message.”

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Skittles’ note: I would like to add that we should ALWAYS use private comment when we absolutely must contact a LT’er, even when their response isn’t private.
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Dr Mike’s (aka theapparatus) note:

If both works that need to be combine have more than 200 records, please post your request in this thread:

http://www.librarything.com/topic/95602

You need staff intervention to handle that request.
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When this thread reaches approximately 200 posts, DO NOT POST HERE, but go to thread #56. This thread will be easier to handle if we keep it under 200 (faster loading). Please copy any notes or instructions to the new thread. Thank you.

Feel free to add comments &/or suggestions ... not just “challenges.”

** There is also a Combiner’s Group Information, FAQ & Discussion Thread #2 at: http://www.librarything.com/topic/57164 . That thread is for combining information, discussion in general, not for problems ... .

** The wiki page is here: http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/Book_combining

Addendum by AnnieMod: We will help no matter what, it just makes it faster if we have all the information as described above.

It's me, again, but I'm in the process of entering all my books, so it's probably inevitable there should be some stumbles. This time it's a little oddity with my two editions of LOTR. I first entered a paperback box set containing The Hobbit and the three volumes of LOTR, nothing unusual there, but when I entered the hardcover edition, I did not get the warning associated with a double entry for The Fellowship. Is this due to an error in the entry for the box set? I can't pin it down.

Fellowship of the Ring
http://www.librarything.com/work/3203347/book/97435677

The Two Towers
http://www.librarything.com/work/3203350/book/97435489

I also noticed that two volumes from The History of Middle Earth series have green ticks, what does that mean?

Thank you all for your wonderful help!

Green ticks mean you have the book in "Your library."

If you've added the box set as a single entry, and the Fellowship as another entry, you won't see the duplicate warning - since the Fellowship isn't the same as the whole set.

If you go to each of the books, you should have your other copy listed in the book information box on the main work page.

I'vwe found a problem with Fellowship. Let's see if I can fix it.

Sorry, I have separated a number of other Fellowship editions out of http://www.librarything.com/work/1386651, but have not found yours, and the screen is doing strange things to my eyes. (It's also getting late here.) Maybe someone else can find it.

(http://www.librarything.com/work/1386651/book/94163095)

>4 r.orrison: I entered the paperback box set as a single entry (at least I think so. Maybe memory is playing tricks on me??) and some weeks later the individual volumes of the hardcover edition of LOTR. Two Towers and Return of the King were signalled as duplicates, but not the Fellowship – that's what I find odd.

>6 MarthaJeanne: Thank you for your efforts. Could it be that the problem lies with the series title?

Fellowship
http://www.librarything.com/work/1386651/book/94163095

Two Towers
http://www.librarything.com/work/3203350/details/94163218

The Fellowship has Lord of the Rings 1-3 as series title, Two Towers (and Return) have Lord of the Rings (2) and (3) respectively.

> 8: Thanks for noting this additional bit. It's not that the Series title was a problem, but rather that your Fellowship was combined with the three-volume set. MarthaJeanne (post 6 above) was on the right track. I've found, separated, and re-combined your record with others of the same Work; please see if it's acting more like you'd expect now, duplicate(s) and all, and let us know when there's something more.

I should have been clearer last night, but it was after 23:00 here, and my brain had begun to turn off. Thanks for finding that needle. By the end I could only see haystack.

My heartfelt gratitude to both of you, now the entries look just perfect!

Could someone seperate the books on this page?
http://www.librarything.nl/series/Morgon+van+Hed+trilogie
Only the books by Patricia A. McKillip should be here. I really don't know what the costume books are doing there.

...I don't know either, because the CK for both those series is not listed on each others' books, but for some reason the http://www.librarything.com/series/Morgon+van+Hed+trilogie and the http://www.librarything.com/series/Costume+Paper+Dolls series are displaying the same things 0.o Anyone else make more sense of this? (The doll books only have English CK entries, so it's not hiding in another language!) Is it a bug or am I missing something?

I pulled the three Patricia McKillip titles out of the "Morgon van Hed trilogie" NL Series, and recollected them in a "Morgon van Hed" NL Series (omitting "trilogie"). Doing so separated them from the "Costume Paper Dolls" titles, which remain in "Morgon van Hed trilogie." Still can't figure out why, or what to do about that inexplicable connection, particularly since "Costume Paper Dolls" is an Series unto itself, and at least one of those titles -- Ancient Egyptian Costumes Paper Dolls -- currently has NO NL Series CK.

Thanks

> 16: You're very welcome. I hope it serves our purpose, at least for the time being. What still puzzles me is that the "Morgon van Hed trilogie" NL Series { http://www.librarything.nl/series/Morgon+van+Hed+trilogie } even now includes all -- and only -- the exact same titles as the "Costume Paper Dolls" Series, and CK for each title in the "wrong" Series: (a) only appears in the English CK version; and (b) only references and links to the correct Series. In any event, I've added notes about the problem to the "Morgon van Hed trilogie" NL Series description, both in English and Dutch (I think -- but somebody should double-check my Dutch). Perhaps that will help us remember what's wrong and why, and inform others of the issue before they get in too deep. Thanks again!

Could you give me a link to where you posted your notes?

I found another problem with an imperfect first entry for a book:
http://www.librarything.com/work/6620443/work/97511005

On the main page there's a "2" in the title, but this is a two-volume edition with a single ISBN.

Thanks again!

There are two "editions" in the system, one with the 2 and the other without. If someone enters another one without the 2 that version will win. Or you could set the canonical title.

>20 jjwilson61: Thanks for the suggestion!

Setting the canonical title shouldn't be done lightly. Normally the titles of the most books should win out because we don't want edit wars between The Philosopher' Stone vs. The Sorcerer's Stone, for example. But it's there to use if it's obviously wrong and there's no other way to fix it.

> 18: On the "bad" Series page, http://www.librarything.nl/series/Morgon+van+Hed+trilogie , under "Reeks omschrijving" in the upper, right-hand corner.

23>Maybe you should also post those on the Costume Paper Dolls page.

> 23 I've done some translating!

>25 connie53:: Very good!

Thanks.

Could someone please help me? I want the following two works to be combined:

Tomb of the Iron God by Matt Finch
http://www.librarything.com/work/13724804/book/97523498

Tomb of the Iron God by Matthew Finch
http://www.librarything.com/work/10567859

Somehow, they seem to be "semi-combined" at the moment. When I click on the author's name, "Matt Finch", on my copy of "Tomb of the Iron God" it takes me to "Matthew Finch", and shows one of his works as "Tomb of the Iron God", with a grey tick next to it, but that's not the same work as the one I have. My copy doesn't show up at all under "Matthew Finch"! I am baffled, and can't figure out how to fully combine these two works!

28> This is the same problem stellar explorer had here.

http://www.librarything.com/topic/151424#4056045

all I can suggest is a bug report.

!!!Oh think I fixed it!!!

>29 SimonW11: I don't think so.

>28 Akiyama: The copies are all combined, I'm not sure what you expect to see? It doesn't list each individual copy of a book on the author page, it lists just the one title. Your tickmark is gray because you have the book in a user-created collection, not in "Your library" etc. User-created collections get gray tickmarks. Everything seems to be working exactly as it should.

ETA I took a while to finish writing because I kept looking at things, but the books were already combined. What is it you think you fixed, Simon?

I was working on it as well. The first link needed a primary author added, and I did so. Still showing as different works though.

30 He was not initial listed as one of the owners.same as stellarexplorer. but the details were different. his copy was not attributed to Matthew Finch(1)but the link took him to that work instead of to the Undefined Matthew Finch(0) entries
Stellars problem was similar his author was not associated with the work he linked to though I was unable to spot a typo that mad LT keep them separate. and being over tired It did not occur to me to looy at the Http for the author untill after stellar had deleted his copy. But I am over tired now so who knows if I am making sense.

31> nods with Stellar explorer I edited the primary author in an effort to correct. if two of us were working on it. Im not going to bother thinking it through any further.

>22 jjwilson61: I see what you mean, suddenly there are over 700 members where I thought I was dealing with two members owning the German complete edition. It would appear from the reviews that among these are books that contain only a handful of the tales, but I suppose that's a lesser evil compared to identifying and comparing all editions. Should I delete the canonical title again so that the most numerous edition wins out? The problem probably arose from incorrect data imported from the GBV...

34>Ideally you should .separate out and combine any you are sure are complete editions. then fill in an CK details foor it you are confident of especially the disambiguation field and possibly the canonical if it is obvious incorrect. separate out and combine any other distinctive versions. with CK notes as appropriate.. Leave a note in the Disambiguate field of the remainder telling people that this is a hotchpotch of works and requesting others to separate out what they can and call for help on here with regards to the rest. it wont be removed but it will be improved.

What do we do about books like this one?
http://www.librarything.com/work/9732734/covers

According to both the cover and WorldCat it is by Michael John. It has been catalogued as being by Erich Hackl. It seems silly to split that page because of a book that has been catalogued badly, but on the other hand also not right to leave it with that author's books, but changing the author also has problems.

34> That's odd. I didn't think that setting the canonical title on the work had any effect on combining. I thought auto-combining was solely done based on the titles in the editions (which come from the title in individual libraries).

> 35, 37 Hmm. I think I'll have a closer look at this on Saturday. Maybe something happened with the transliterated/transcribed versions of the name?

> 24: That's a good idea, MarthaJeanne; I'll look into doing that. But it'll likely take some "reverse affirmative" re-construction of these descriptions to reference the correct Series vs. the problem, rather than the problem vs. correct. To start, and for the time being, I've copied the English Series description text to the English Series { http://www.librarything.com/series/Morgon+van+Hed+trilogie }. If anybody does more before I do, I shan't object.

> 25: Not sure what you revised, but thanks for your help!

> 39: HenkL sayed it was okay and I had an English teacher at my school (I work at a school) have a look at it. Glad to help anytime!

36>

... wenn der Rasen brennt ...: 100 Jahre Fußball in…

well according to amazon.de and google translate
the Authors are

Michael John (Editor) , Franz Steinmassl (Editor) , Erich Hackl (Author) , Peter Huemer (Author) , Rudolf Habringer (Author)

which from the cover which lists two editors seems more accurate than the world cat entry. So I am adding the other authors on the work page.and assigning them editor and contributor roles.

now to answer the general question If it had been say "War of the worlds" by Thomas Hardy. I would first check if Thomas Hardy contributed say an introduction. In which case I would treat it as "... wenn der Rasen brennt ...": above.

If satisfied of that Thomas Hardy was not a contributor but a data error. I would use Author division to separate "War of the worlds" from the correctly authored works. Then use aliasing to Alias the incorrect Author with the Correct Author.

This would leave Thomas Hardy's other works still correctly assigned to him.

I didn't look at Amazon. I agree that Hackl etc. are contributors. And in that case that it is probably the same person. Thank you. The author page had needed a lot of combining, and that book was the one that didn't fit.

On my Author page http://www.librarything.com/author/fasolp not all books I am author of show up. These are missing on the list for some mysterious reason:

- http://www.librarything.com/work/13639370/book/95165020
- http://www.librarything.com/work/13639200/book/95163260
- http://www.librarything.com/work/13639375/book/95165048

I can't figure out how to solve this. Can someone fix this?

Thanks,
Peter

> 43: Done. (Sometimes it takes hitting "recalculate title/author" (on the work page) and/or "recalculate author name" (on the author page) a couple of times, in order to force updating the system).

Please combine these two:

http://www.librarything.com/work/147447
http://www.librarything.com/work/3350526

Thanks!

45> Done.

Thanks Matt! Splendid.

Graag gedaan.

Could someone please help me with a snarl I've run into? I'm new and this is a bit beyond me - I'm terrified of getting it all wrong!

I was separating out two editions that had auto-combined into the wrong volume of a series (they were v5, stuck with v1), and one of them was a zero-copy. Now I can't seem to get the zero-copy to acknowledge the other one exists so I can recombine it with the correct one.

http://www.librarything.com/work/13791565/ (zero-copy)
http://www.librarything.com/work/13796013/

It doesn't show up on the author combination page, and I also tried adding a "temporary" book to my library with title/author/isbn exactly that way to snag it, as I'd seen elsewhere, but it combined with the single-copy instead. I even waited overnight to see if that would help, but no deal.

If this is something that I can do/avoid once taught, I'd love to know how! This particular series is a tangle of novels and comic adaptations at the moment which I'd like to straighten out. (If it's something better left to all your capable hands, I will happily provide the necessary separation info I looked up.)

> 49: Personally, and no criticism intended, I think your first mistake (if such it was) was being "terrified of getting it all wrong!" But that's just me ... .

This one's admittedly hard, because LT (apparently) wasn't going to recognize the zero-copy record to propose combining it with the others on either the Work page or the Author page, even though it was appearing as a distinct item in the Series. Some things I tried or checked: specifying the same canonical title for both records, making sure they both appeared as distinct (and the same -- volume "5") Series entries, looking for proposed combinations on the Editions pages, and recalculating title/author then running through most of the foregoing one more time. Mostly, I was hoping to hit on something that would let me tell you, "X worked."

When all that failed, though, I did it using a technique to force the combination that another LT Member taught me. (Hi, @brightcopy!). It involves a bit of (legitimate, useful, constructive) "LT hacking" -- something that Member's really, really good at, and we (LT Members) frequently benefit from. My recommendation for the next one(s) like this? Post 'em here, and let the Combiner's group tackle 'em as quick as we can. Lots of sharp, engaged, and oh-so-generous LT'ers here!

Other thoughts, ideas, and suggestions are always welcome -- thank you!

#22 by @jjwilson61>
I'm glad you brought this up. It reminded me of a case I felt unsure about. I was working on http://www.librarything.com/work/298304, whose canonical title I wanted to reset because the editions were defaulting the title to Introducing Ethics, 2nd Edition. But the book also had an original title of Ethics for Beginners. I didn't want to have to choose between the two, but felt that forcing Introducing Ethics (at the expense of Ethics for Beginners) was still better than it showing up as Introducing Ethics, 2nd Edition. Should I have done it differently, or just left it alone? (Maybe I was just too doubtful/pessimistic that Amazon would want to remove the edition information from their title.)

52 Is that the works edition grid?

> 50: Thanks a bunch for the help, jasbro - I'm sorry it was so much work! I'm sure I'll be back here with other zero-copies when I sort out the tangles.
Oh, and no offense taken, it's just me being nervous while I learn. :)

Changing the Canonical Title to Introducing Ethics seems fine to me since that's the current title. There's also a different place in CK for Original Title. And I don't see why Amazon would change the title since it is accurate for the edition that they are selling.

#54 by @jjwilson61>
Thanks!

I accidentally combined works, I then corrected my mistake and separated them, but the 1st work below is still listing other works' covers as popular covers, is there any way to stop this?

And the reviews say 3 but when you click on the number 3 there are no reviews.

Knifepoint (Breakers, Book 3) by Edward W. Robertson
http://www.librarything.com/work/12274369/summary/96916973

In the below book by the same author there is a potential combinations section with a totally separate work suggested but I can't see a way of separating the potential?

The white tree by Edward W. Robertson
http://www.librarything.com/work/13773701/summary

#56 by @wifilibrarian>
I tried recalculating covers to no avail. Sometimes after a separation, member-uploaded covers still point to the formerly inappropriate work for about a month or so (after which covers, tags, etc., are all updated for each work, I'm pretty sure). If they're still there a month from now, the incorrect covers should probably be flagged (as "inapplicable to this work") ... not that anything is done right now with those flags. I'm not sure about the reviews (and I don't see it as claiming 3 anymore). As for the "potential", I wouldn't worry about it. Those are often inappropriate/misleading and often remain after a separation. Nothing I know can be done to remove the potential from being suggested at this time.

>57 omargosh:
Thanks, I will keep an eye out next month. I tried recalculating covers too, thought there may be something I was missing.
So Knifepoint doesn't claim there are 3 reviews along the top of the work page? I don't see any reviews listed under the Member reviews tab, just the top line:
Copies Reviews etc
1 3

#58 by @wifilibrarian>
Ah, I see that now. I was looking at the left, where it says "Reviews (0)". Perhaps that top bar is also cached and gets updated monthly as well?

28 to 33>

Thankyou SimonW11 and 2wonderY, my copy of Tomb of the Iron God is more combined with the other two now. Although not entirely combined because my tags for that work are not showing up under "Tags" on the work's page! Strange . . .

PolymathicMonkey: Ah, I didn't know that's what a grey tick means - I've never seen one before. Thanks for that.

Tags take a while to be re-calculated after combining.

Please combine:

Paula

http://www.librarything.com/work/5753833/editions - zero copies

and

http://www.librarything.com/work/6101809/editions - zero copies

with:

http://www.librarything.com/work/2781

Thanks in advance

>62 guurtjesboekenkast:: Done.

Please combine:

Brieven voor Paula

http://www.librarything.com/work/13807593 - zero copies

with

http://www.librarything.com/work/13302460

> 64: Done; thank you.

Please combine

http://www.librarything.com/work/1816900
http://www.librarything.com/work/11902358

>66 AndreasJ: Done.

67 > Thank you

Can someone please help?

http://www.librarything.com/work/13129932
http://www.librarything.com/work/3128593

Hi, I'm fairly new here and I'm told if I post here, someone can "walk" me through doing a combine myself. I'm cleaning up my imported shelf (from shelfari), as a bunch of the books didn't combine properly.

I've already fixed up some of the info, but it's still not combining properly.

Here's what I'd like to combine, but I'd love to learn to do it myself, because I'm sure I'll come across more, and it will be faster if I know what I'm doing and can just go ahead and do it. Thanks so much!

http://www.librarything.com/work/13742937
http://www.librarything.com/work/3283984

You've got your author listed as Laura, rather than Laurie. Change that in your record, then go to the author's page. The pink box on the right side lets you combine the works.

D'oh! Thank you!

Ok, now I've got the correct one added for me, but it doesn't appear to have "deleted" the other one from the system. And it still says Laura... ??? Is there a way to delete it or is it now stuck there? Thanks again!

http://www.librarything.com/work/13742937

In the editions page the main work is listed for you to combine with.

The erroneous data tends to stick around four quite some time, nothing you can do about it unfortunately.

69 that was gnomic sorted?

75> Looks good now! Thanks.

>74 JerryMmm:

Thanks! Guess I'll just have to leave the incorrect one then. Oops, wish I hadn't made the error to begin with...

76> it wasn't me! went to fix it and though umm looks good but may I misunderstood

73> Yes, the wrong one stays around. If the work continues to have the wrong author, you can click on 'Recalculate title/author' at the bottom of the right side of the work page to fix that. The wrong one should stay combined in. In most cases that won't create any problems.

>79 MarthaJeanne: The wrong one should stay combined in

As long as the not-so-bright individual that goes around and uncombines names that "appear" to not have books under them officially does not decide to uncombine it. Which reminds me to go and fix my writers written in Bulgarian... again.

PS: No apologies- I am tired of recombining these every few months.

Should these be combined? The author is Joshua Foer, however Mike Chamberlain is listed as the author in the second link; he is not the author but narrated the audio version of the book, as can be seen here... http://www.amazon.com/Moonwalking-Einstein-Science-Remembering-Everything/dp/B00...

Moonwalking with Einstein, by Joshua Foer
http://www.librarything.com/work/10443925
http://www.librarything.com/work/13659306

>81 Hibou8: Yes, audio versions get combined. It's done now.

78> Ah, sorry, I misunderstood you too and someone else fixed those two for me. Thanks to the anonymous person then. :)

Hi there. I am fairly new (a goodreads import), and have been working on entering my library. I recently discovered that two entirely different Enid Blyton collections had been combined (perhaps because they belong to the same series?), and was hoping someone could help me to separate them.

The first is "Andrew's Robin and Other Stories" (ISBN 0723511896):

http://www.librarything.com/work/4817466/book/97953918

The second is "The Gossamer Elf and Other Stories" (ISBN 0723511918):

http://www.librarything.com/work/4817466/book/97954168

I own both of these volumes, and can give a list of the stories in each - there is no overlap. They should be separated, surely? I think the confusion may have arisen because some databases list the separate volumes of this series (Enid Blyton's Tell-A-Story Book) under the series name alone, leading someone to think they were the same book. Any help would be much appreciated!

85> Done.

The problem probably came from people entering these as Enid Blyton's Tell-A-Story Book ... The auto combine only reads a certain number of characters, and also ignores anything after :.

I have put canonical titles on all the books of this series that I found so that they no longer have Tell-A-Story in the work title. That should help somewhat.

Thank you, MarthaJeanne! Question for you: is combining/separating something anyone can do? Or only select members who have been approved? As I've been entering, I've seen other books that should be combined (this is my first need for separation), and would love to take care of it, if I could.

Anyone can do it. It's a good idea to look for a work to combine into if you find that one of your books is listed as a singleton.

OK, thanks. Can you perhaps direct me to directions about combining? I'd appreciate it!

Any user can combine / separate (Except for combinations that involve more than (I think) 200 copies to be moved. That takes some more doing, but can still be easily done by some of our more experienced users).

If, for whatever reason, you're not comfortable combining or separating you can always ask advice, or help, in this group. Don't hesitate. We'll be glad to help out.

OK, thanks BarkingMatt!

thanks PolymathicMonkey & Collectorator!

Also these should be combined...

That Awful Mess on the Via Merulana
http://www.librarything.com/work/13167811
http://www.librarything.com/work/12223697
http://www.librarything.com/work/236798

>92 Hibou8: Done

>93 .Monkey.: thank you!

Also this:

Log of the S.S. the Mrs Unguentine
http://www.librarything.com/work/473931
http://www.librarything.com/work/8145227

thanks!

>94 Hibou8: Also done :)

Those works need combining :
http://www.librarything.com/work/8836411
http://www.librarything.com/work/11891429

Also, those authors might be the same but not quite sure ?
http://www.librarything.com/author/macdonelljohn
http://www.librarything.com/author/mdonelljohn

> 96: Done. (Not all John MacDonell, so I split and aliased best as I can).

>97 Nicole_VanK:: I think the aliasing was not quite correct. "Spanish" John McDonell (or M'Donell) lived from 1728 till 1810. According to WorldCat the book John Macdonell of Scotus : correspondence & papers, 1795 to 1856 contains the correspondence of his son (1768-1850), who also contributed to Early Fur Trade on the Northern Plains.

Ah, okay, thanks.

Please combine the following comics that are listed separately at the writer and artist. Please don't mind that the volume numbers are different, it seems that the Italian comics were released in a different order.

#1 Koma, tome 1 : La voix des cheminées
http://www.librarything.de/work/1483553
http://www.librarything.de/work/4976499

#2 Koma, Tome 3 : Comme dans les westerns
http://www.librarything.de/work/1635822
http://www.librarything.de/work/9447779

#3 Koma, Tome 6 : Au commencement
http://www.librarything.de/work/6769833
http://www.librarything.de/work/9447782

#DONE#

>100 ElBarto::
I managed to combine them myself.

Could someone please have a look at Ivan Goncharov? Someone seems to have messed up there; most available combinations don't have the combine link. Is the russian version of the name really winning out? Can't really imagine that ... Canonical name is set to Ivan Goncharov.
Thanks!

#102 by @leselotte>
I'm not sure what you mean by "most available combinations don't have the combine link". As for the name, I agree that it's probably not "winning out". I wonder if it has to do with the fact that it looks like "Иван Гончаров" might have been set on the "other authors" section of Oblomov. Or maybe, er, never mind, it's probably just this bug. Indeed, it looks like the Russian canonical name was set 3 days ago (the previous canonical name change was in English CK 1.5 years ago).

Can anybody else combine http://www.librarything.com/author/medarissv and http://www.librarything.com/author/medarissusiev ? I've tried from A to B and from B to A and also just using the URL method, but any which way I try, I just get keep getting some weird error reading "This author, or form of author, does not currently have any books in LibraryThing", which is untrue, though she probably has never been set as a primary author for any book, but I wouldn't think that would matter.

though she probably has never been set as a primary author for any book, but I wouldn't think that would matter.

Actually, I think that's exactly what's causing the problem. So far I have been unable to combine author pages that are for secondary authors only.

Anybody?

>102 leselotte:, 103

Yes - it is the common name bug again. Re-saving the English one does the trick.

#105 by @BarkingMatt>
Well, if BarkingMatt can't do it ... :-)
I've been doing a lot of recent work adding "other authors", some of which have required combining, but I hadn't run into such an error before. Though I see now that this issue has already been filed in Bug Collectors, so I'll post more details there. Thanks.

Oxford Dictionary of Current Idiomatic English
Volume 1
http://www.librarything.com/work/1288108/editions/98083974

Volume 2
http://www.librarything.com/work/1288108/book/98083957

In my opinion the subject matter of the individual volumes is distinct enough to merit a separation. What's your opinion?

Separate volumes should always be separated from each other and the main work.

Agreed. And neither should be combined with the complete thing.

>109 jjwilson61:, 110 Thanks, I'll have a go at separating them later this week.

Can someone combine?
http://www.librarything.com/author/portischtraudi
http://www.librarything.com/author/portischgertraude
http://www.librarything.com/author/reichtraudi

The second I just added. If I search on Portisch several authors let me combine - but not the right one.

Done. I was able to combine both with a third name she writes under.

I suppose you all know that one now can enter the date one finished reading a book even if that date was before 1970. I think this is great improvement and that everybody should know it.

Agreed: great improvement. (And personally I don't even do reading dates...)

Please combine

Zes jaar by Harlan Coben

http://www.librarything.nl/work/book/98139644

with

Six Years by Harlan Coben

http://www.librarything.nl/work/13043318/summary

>115 connie53: Done

These should be combined:

http://www.librarything.com/work/2341724/edit/11109655

and

http://www.librarything.com/work/1627795/edit/51393682

please combine
1
http://www.librarything.com/series/Full+Metal+Panic%21

thanks

119> could you give some details? what are the roles of

Shouji Gatou
Retsu Tateo
Fujimi Shobo
Tomohiro Nagai

ie writer, illustrator, animator, editor, chief bottle washer? Do they perform the same role in all the works? if not who does what in what?

>120 SimonW11:
Sorry no idea I don't own this comic, I found it by chance

well Wikipedia was some help.I suspect though that the manga and light novels are intertwined more than they should be but this needs am expert eye Added this to the disambiguation field for the works put it is the tip of the iceberg.

Full Metal Panic works have complex relation ships please ensure
the three series Full Metal Panic! Overload
by Tomohiro Nagai
Full Metal Panic! Comic Mission
By Shoji Gatoh
and Full Metal Panic! by Shoji Gatoh
are all kept separate. please double check your entry for title and author if in doubt

and distinguish between light novel, manga and anime series.

I'm fairly sure these are the same:

http://www.librarything.com/work/13762460/summary/97273174
http://www.librarything.com/work/423058/editions

Really bad author entries on both.

> 123: Done.

Hello, could someone please combine
http://www.librarything.com/work/12334596
http://www.librarything.com/work/book/98275544

Thanks in advance!

>125 Tallulah_Rose:

Done

Please combine:

Bedroht by Hans Koppel
http://www.librarything.nl/work/13778410

with

Je bent nu van mij by Hans Koppel

http://www.librarything.nl/work/13866169/summary/98321858

This is an swedish book by origin. I did not find any traslantion but this German one. But they are the same.

>127 connie53: Done.

This whole edition list could use some love:

http://www.librarything.com/work/13856396/editions

#129 by @brightcopy>
Should be better now. I separated out all the individual volumes and then combined them to their counterparts in a nicely seried and canonically titled set.

#130 by @omargosh> Gracias.

Care to elaborate on why you combined all the various numbered volumes into one giant work?

I'm having trouble with my edition of Franklin W. Dixon's "The House on the Cliff" (the second Hardy Boys book), which seems to have been combined with the third. The edition I own is an Applewood Books reprint of the original, ISBN: 1557091455, and can be seen here:

http://www.librarything.com/work/60792/book/98333055

Somehow this ISBN seems to be attached to "The Secret of the Old Mill" (the third Hardy Boys book), and although I have gone to the separate/combine page, I can't seem to isolate the right edition, to separate. Can anyone help? Much appreciated!

134:
It seems to be ok now. The link you posted isn't valid any more; your book (98333055) is now attached to the correct work:
http://www.librarything.com/work/book/98333055

#134 I found your copy and separated, then put with the correct title. Does it look OK?

It looks great - thanks for the help!

#132 by @Collectorator> no, it's not better. As she knows, I separated those for a reason. whatever.

Who is "she"? What is she supposed to know? When I got to the work brightcopy sent, it was a bunch of volumes that looked like:

Vol 10 Krill To Mangebey: The International Wildlife Encyclopedia / Others, Burton &
Vol 14 Poor Will To River Dolphin: The International Wildlife Encyclopedia / Others, Burton &
Vol 03 Brine Shrimp To Chevrotain: The International Wildlife Encyclopedia / Burton
etc.

all 20 individual volumes combined together. And I don't recall any disambiguation message. Why would a "work" be like that (and why would somebody who explicitly made it that way not expect it to get undone, esp. without a disambiguation message)? I'm willing to undo my work, but I don't understand your response or what, if anything, I did wrong.

I think Collectorator thinks I'm a she. *shrug* Though if she is referring to me, I have no idea what I'm supposed to magically know, either. All I saw was what you saw - an editions list containing a ton of titles that don't go together.

I have just entered two books, and the system is combining them, even though they do not have exactly the same title or authors. The books are:

Dyeing the Clothing of the Common People 1480-1580 by Stuart Peachey and David Hopkins
http://www.librarything.com/work/3558661/summary/98339025

Dyeing the Clothing of the Common People 1580-1660 by David Hopkins and Stuart Peachey
http://www.librarything.com/work/3558661/summary/98338939

When I tried going to the editions page for the first one, to separate out the other one, it asked me if I wanted to separate 1580-1660 from 1580-1660, which is not what I want!

Thanks for your help!

#140 I separated the two. Sometimes the system thinks it's separating the book from itself but I just forge ahead and the titles are OK.

The problem now is that one book is by Stuart Peachey and the other by Robert Stewart Morris Peachey. However the 1580-1660 is on both pages. Not sure what to do. Any ideas?

#140 by @staffordcastle>
You're fine, don't worry, just running into some funny business in the way LT handles some things. One is that it seems to ignore characters in the title past a certain point when auto-combining (terrible for multi-volume non-fiction!).

The other thing about separating 1580-1660 from 1580-1660 ... nothing bad will happen. It's like it sometimes decides to rename things on the fly, or anticipate what the new post-separation title will be, when there are even numbers of possible titles. In the end, you'll get a "success" message about having separated 1580-1660 from 1480-1580 (and 1480-1580 will probably remain named that way, since it now has more versions of that than of 1580-1660).

I recently added a volume to a vintage children's series from the late 19th/early 20th centuries, and noticed that it needed to be combined with other editions, bearing a different title. The book, which is the second entry in Amanda M. Douglas' "A Little Girl" series" has been published both as "A Little Girl of Long Ago:"

http://www.librarything.com/work/9725789

and as "Hanna Ann" (some editions, although none currently on LT, are listed as "Hanna Ann, or, A Little Girl of Long Ago"):

http://www.librarything.com/work/10974752

I'm not sure how to combine these, as the first entry has no author listed? Any advice?

Thanks, guys!

>143 AbigailAdams26:

I've combined them by building the combination URL manually.

>143 AbigailAdams26: you can also set the author in the authorless work, if you're 100% sure that is the author. That should make it turn up in the author's cleanup page.
iirc if there is no author, you can do that always, if there is anything there, you need to have a lifetime membership to change it.

please combine
1
http://www.librarything.com/series/I%2520classici%2520della%2520letteratura%2520...
2 done
http://www.librarything.com/series/Topolino+story

thanks

Which into which, really? Should they be the original authors, or Disney Studios?
http://coa.inducks.org/publication.php?c=it/CLA2 says these have multiple stories. Are all authors present in the book, or have people just figured it out?

>147 supersidvicious: done the one errand one in Topolino story.

Thank you, Felagund and JerryMmm - appreciated!

Could some one help with the two books written by Hans Koppel.

There is something really wrong there and I have no idea how to tackle that one:

Here is what I found:

Book number one:
Swedish title – Kommer aldrig mer igen
Dutch title – Ze komt nooit meer terug
Spanish title - Nunca volverás
Italian title - Non tornerai mai più
English title - She's Never Coming Back
German title – Entführt
Frecnch title - Châtiments
Alternative title – Never coming back (American?)

Book number two:
Swedish title – Kom ska vi tycka om varandra
Dutch title – Je bent nu van mij
German title – Bedroht.
English title – You’r mine now

http://www.librarything.nl/combine.php?work=13869785

In the first block are all the right titles for book one combined with the Dutch title number 2

Is there any one that can sort that out.

>148 JerryMmm:
I would suggest the original authors even if you could have multiple authors for a single work

152>

I am unsure what you want.
I think you mean
this info is correct, and needs to be reflected in LT.

Book number one:
Swedish title – Kommer aldrig mer igen
Dutch title – Ze komt nooit meer terug
Spanish title - Nunca volverás
Italian title - Non tornerai mai più
English title - She's Never Coming Back
German title – Entführt
Frecnch title - Châtiments
Alternative title – Never coming back (American?)

Book number two:
Swedish title – Kom ska vi tycka om varandra
Dutch title – Je bent nu van mij
German title – Bedroht.
English title – You’r mine now

can you confirm this?

>152 connie53:, 154

That one is due to me. I looked up Bedroht in Libris (the Swedish national book database) and saw that they had it marked as a translation of "Kommer aldrig mer igen", so I combined them. Someone seems to have separated them again.

>154 SimonW11: I can confirm that

The lists I posted are the editions that belong together acording to my search.

> 155: When you read the blurb/description of Bedroht it fits perfectly with the descrition of Kom ska vi tycka om varandra and Je bent nu van mij/You're mine now.
Those four titles belong together

In general:
When you follow this link: http://www.librarything.nl/combine.php?work=13869785
you will find that "my" titles given in the list for book number one also belong together but they are combined with the dutch title of book #2

In the authors thread there is no over all title called Zij komt nooit meer terug (book#1) but book#2 is mentioned twice

See this link: http://www.librarything.nl/author/koppelhans

I hope somebody understands it.

>156 connie53: There were 2 Canonical Titles set on http://www.librarything.nl/work/12060614

I removed the wrong one.

Is all goed now?

>157 JerryMmm: I did so too, apparently at the same time.

Yes, all good! Thank you.

At this site there appears a review of mine of a book on Father Faber:

http://www.librarything.com/work/1377113/reviews/82933913

It also appears at this site:

http://www.librarything.com/work/1377113/reviews/11778944

Which is where it belongs. How can I get it removed from the site where it does not belong?

160> Go into your copy of that book and remove the review. Noone else can do that.

> 160/161: Actually there was something we could do. Works had been miscombined, I separated them. The review might be stuck on the wrong work until caching catches up - then again: it might not. But that should clear itself.

Could someone look at tome 3 of Albatros:
http://www.librarything.com/work/10569457/editions

Tomes 1 and 2 look correct but I just don't know about this one. My inclination is to leave it alone.

All versions translate as "the mumbling of souls". So I think it's okay.

#164 Thanks

I have just added my copies of Eleanor Farjeon's 1947 play, "The Glass Slipper:"

http://www.librarything.com/work/616635/book/98418260

and her fairy-tale novel of the same name, based upon the play:

http://www.librarything.com/work/616635/book/98418151

And am not sure how to go about separating them. Is there a way to separate the first book from all the other listings, which appear to be for the novel? Once done, is there a way to attach a note, so they aren't combined again by some well-meaning person? Thanks for any help!

>166 AbigailAdams26:

Yeah... but the problem is that you did not put anything in the name of the play to say that it is the play - so finding it and keeping it separate will be hard.

So can you edit your book entry to have the word "play" in the title so we can see it, separate it and add a disambig note for it.

Separating is going to be difficult as most people haven't marked which is which in the titles. You could try on the basis of the ISBNs. Many people just grab the first book they see and don't check that the ISBN is right, so the separation might not be accurate after all. Then you could add a disambiguation note to both books.

However 'well-meaning' people often ignore the notices, even though they come up when you combine. There are likely to be wrong auto-combinations as well. So the separation might not stay accurate. Still, you could try.

You separate from the edition page, trying to keep track of what was separated out, and combining them back together as needed. Disambiguation notices are added in CK.

Theoretically you could split from here: http://www.librarything.com/work/616635/editions/98418151

But many entries - especially the non-ISBN ones - will be unclear about whether they mean the play or the novel. Alas.

As for the notes: they're called disambiguation here. When you scroll down you will find that field in the Common Knowledge section.

Well, I don't think any edition of the play ever had an ISBN, as it was published in the 1940s, and then not again (as far as I'm aware). But yes, I suppose I could add "A Play" at the end of the title, although it's not actually there. Hold on, I'll do that, and then try separating.

But we cannot presume that all non-ISBN books are the play - that's the problem :)

> 170: You could put that in brackets, just to indicate that it's not really part of the title.

I understand, AnnieMod, and wasn't trying to suggest that we make that assumption. Just mentioning it, as I think editions of the play will be limited in number, whereas those for the novel will not. In any case, I have managed to separate them. Will now add notes in the Common Knowledge area. Thanks for the help!

Can someone familiar with James Bond look at this: http://www.librarything.com/work/8238939. There are two disambiguation notices about anthologies and a lot of different titles in the editions.

@OrkCaptain wrote in his review: 1966 saw the release of the final publication from Ian Fleming, the short story collection Octopussy & The Living Daylights. Originally published with the two title stories, a third short story was added upon the release of the paperback edition, The Property of a Lady. When the tome was reprinted by Penguin in the early 2000's, a fourth tale was added to the mix, 007 in New York.

looking at the editions, I wonder if it's worth the considerable effort separating out the ones where it's clear which of the 3 works there actually are..

> 175: My 2¢: It’s absolutely worth separating and disambiguating. If I’m looking for this Work, I want to know that there are material content differences among the various similar editions I might find. {“Octopussy” & “The Living Daylights”} is not the same as {“Octopussy,” “The Living Daylights” & “The Property of a Lady”}; rather, the former is included in the latter. Similarly, the latter is not the same as, but is included in, {“Octopussy,” “The Living Daylights,” “The Property of a Lady” & “007 in New York”}. In this case, I actually wish I’d known about the latest of these Ian Fleming anthologies before this afternoon!

Then I won't detain you any further ;)

Seems to me these should be combined:

http://www.librarything.com/work/13874994

and

http://www.librarything.com/work/1377113/reviews/82933913

The second link is the one which shows a review of another book--you say, since it is my review only I can remove it, but I have no desire to remove it from the first link, where it belongs, but how can I remove it from the second link where it does not belong?

Yes, Collectorator--It shows no review of the Watts book, but still indicates there is one though there isn't. But that presumably will be corrected in time. Thank you.

I've added my American and British editions of Ardath Mayhar's "A Place of Silver Silence," but can't seem to combine them:

http://www.librarything.com/work/2754311/book/98493416

http://www.librarything.com/work/13884023/book/98493505

Could someone help me with this? I suspect the trouble is that the latter edition was imported under the name "Mayer," although I fixed it in my copy of the book. Thanks for any help!

183> Done.

Thanks, MarthaJeanne!

Please separate
this book: http://www.librarything.de/work/book/98510018 from
this author page: http://www.librarything.de/author/kinganna

The book is related to this author page: http://www.librarything.de/author/carrjosephine-1
Reason therefore: http://threekingsbooks.com/

So would someone mind combining
http://www.librarything.de/work/book/98510018 with
http://www.librarything.de/author/carrjosephine-1

Thanks a lot :-D

It is more complicated than what you are asking for. I'll see what I can do.

185>Your author Anna King is now Anna King (2)
http://www.librarything.com/author/kinganna-2

This is the same person as Joseph King (5) http://www.librarything.com/author/kinganna-2

This is also the same person as a Rose King who is not in LT because she hasn't published anything under that name yet. If she ever does, that page will also need dividing.

The author's true name is Josephine Carr http://www.librarything.com/author/carrjosephine who does not seem to be any of the Josephine Carrs on that page up to now.

I have aliased the two Kings to Josephine Carr, where they are now Josephine Carr (5) http://www.librarything.com/author/carrjosephine-5 and I have made a link to the website you named.

Many many thanks Martha for your work :-D. I'm sorry that this was so complicated.

187> An odd choice aliasing into a name that she does not write under. I would have set the legal Name as Josephine Carr for both and aliased them into the most prolific of her pen names. after all we have not aliased George Eliot into Mary Anne Evans

Please combine:

http://www.librarything.com/work/13786031
http://www.librarything.com/work/323045

An odd choice aliasing the works into a name she does not write under I would have set the legal name to Josephine Carr for all pen names and aliased works into the most prolific Pen name. After all we have not aliased George Eliot into Mary Anne Evans.

> 191: Done; thank you.

187 and 192 >
But she did apparently write works under Josephine Carr. In addition the works at kinganna-2 and kingjoseph-5, according to http://threekingsbooks.com/about.htm she also wrote the two books (The Dewey Decimal System of Love and My Very Own Murder) currently at carrjosephine-1 (I assume that's just an older photo), My Beautiful Fat Friend currently at carrjosephine-3 (as well as at least one more of the books at the aliased-to carrjody ... I'm not sure if "Lost & Found" is by Josephine Carr too) as well as the works that MarthaJeanne put into carrjosephine-5. I'm going to do some cleaning up ...

Ok, I think I got everything from carrjosephine-3 and carrjosephine-5 moved to carrjosephine-1, and I found a connection between Lost & Found and Monday's Child as being by the same author, so now carrjody has been split and aliased to carrjosephine (which makes carrjody split into 1, which always looks a bit weird, but I'm generally not a fan of lump-then-split (and think it's downright untenable in some cases) but if y'all strongly feel otherwise, there's of course nothing stopping you from unsplitting carrjody and combining her with carrjosephine).

194> ah my misunderstanding was fortuitous if it lead to your tidying.

Please combine

Het licht van weleer by Robert Jordan/Brandon Sanderson

http://www.librarything.nl/work/13898128/summary/98617945

With A Memory of Light by the same Authors

http://www.librarything.nl/work/9962970/summary

Thanks.

http://www.librarything.com/work/10849097

Phonogram Cards: The Writing Road to Reading by Romalda Spalding has a cover image for Mystery in the Museum by Betty Cavanna

Could someone kindly remove the image? It says there is one member; there are no public books.

Thanks!

>198 SaintSunniva: Thankfully nobody can mess with the contents of someone else's catalog, best you can do is upload your own correct cover for the work and use that.

#198 by @SaintSunniva>
You can flag covers like this as "inapplicable to the work", which I did. Not that cover flagging really does anything besides note that it's been flagged.

Hi,

Please combine: National Geographic Vol.199, No.2 February 2001 (edition 2001)
http://www.librarything.com/work/10405643/summary
http://www.librarything.com/work/book/98686677

Thanks,

#201 Done

>202 fdholt:

Thank you. :)

http://www.librarything.com/work/9051833
http://www.librarything.com/work/13095741
The second one doesn't show on the author page in spite of my efforts.

http://www.librarything.com/work/13908864
and two 0 editions that would prefer to be vol 2.
http://www.librarything.com/work/13908872
http://www.librarything.com/work/13908869

#204 I think everything is OK now.

Thanks.

This thread is now CLOSED. Please continue our discussions at Combining/Separating (Please Fix This Book!) Request Thread #57 -- http://www.librarything.com/topic/154956 . Thank you!