Combining/Separating (Please Fix This Book!) Request Thread #27!!!

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Combining/Separating (Please Fix This Book!) Request Thread #27!!!

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1theapparatus
Edited: Sep 3, 2010, 9:22 am

This thread is for LT'ers or thingamabrarians, or members, or their designees, to post combining or separating problems with their books.
**If a book has been combined with a book that is extremely different from the original.
**If a book won't combine with the other books just like it.
**There is a problem with the entry & it is just too overwhelming to deal with.
________________________________________...

It has been suggested many times that there be a single thread for LT'ers to post combining & separating problems so that;
** they can learn how to do it
** they can get help when needed
** just want someone else to do it (usually, they can't understand how to do it... which is normal... or don't have the time)
**and finally, those LT'ers who "enjoy" combining can have a place to look to first to see what fun can be had helping LT be the best place to catalog books.
________________________________________...

WHEN YOU POST:
Please give us HYPERLINKS or URLs, not touchstones. Hyperlinks to the pages where the problems exist are much more accurate than a touchstone when there is a problem.
Give us the title & author, plus any other information you think we might need.

Then you can just wait, "and someone will be with you shortly."
________________________________________...

Tim's Guidelines for Proper Etiquette for contacting members about their book records:

"For this topic, I still feel strongly that I'd like to consider it bad form. Many others agree with me. But a few thing I'm dictating and are angry about that. So, fine. Let's just write some guidelines up. I propose that the guidelines be something along the lines of:

*Remember that LibraryThing is used for many different reasons. The way you use and enjoy the site is not necessarily the way others do.
*Be sensitive to how the member is using LibraryThing. Approach members who show no interest in the social side more cautiously.
*Try to provide helpful information and ask questions rather than dictating.
*If the user indicates displeasure at the request, let it drop.
*When in doubt, raise the issue in the Combiners! group before sending a message."
________________________________________...

Skittles' note: I would like to add that we should ALWAYS use private comment when we absolutely must contact a LT'er, even when their response isn't private.

and yes, this thread is similar to putting all of our problems together for people to see & say, "oh, no!! LT isn't perfect!!" or "Look at all of the problems that LT has." That isn't the case here. This is a place to gather "challenges" together to make it easier & faster to "fix" them. Let's just remember that "bad" data comes from people... people who make mistakes.. WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES! (ok, there are a couple of perfect people around here) Instead of complaining about the problem, let's fix it.
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Dr Mike's (aka theapparatus) note:

If both works that need to be combine have more than 200 records, please post your request in this thread:

http://www.librarything.com/topic/95602

You need staff intervention to handle that request.

________________________________________...

When this thread reaches approximately 200 posts, DO NOT POST HERE, but go to POST #28. This thread will be easier to handle if we keep it under 200. (faster loading) Please copy any notes or instructions to the new thread.
Thank you.

Feel free to add comments &/or suggestions... not just "challenges"

**There is also a Combiner's Group Information, FAQ & Discussion Thread #2 at:
http://www.librarything.com/topic/57164
That thread is for combining information, discussion in general, not for problems....

**The wiki page is here:
http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/Book_combining

3SimoneA
Aug 10, 2010, 3:28 am

#2 done

4theapparatus
Aug 10, 2010, 10:19 am

Thanks :)

5DaynaRT
Aug 10, 2010, 10:22 am

Would someone please combine these two Leonard Wolf annotated Draculas?

http://www.librarything.com/work/10276071/editions
http://www.librarything.com/work/10276041/editions

And these two also:

http://www.librarything.com/work/10276060/editions
http://www.librarything.com/work/10276179/editions

I'm trying to clean up an incorrect combination of Leonard Wolf's annotated version and the Norton annotated version, which I've done once before. Thinking of asking Tim to make disambiguation notices not only red, but much larger, flashy, and legally binding.

6SimoneA
Aug 10, 2010, 11:24 am

#5 are done, I think. It was a little bit confusing, with all these suggested combinations...

7DaynaRT
Aug 10, 2010, 12:45 pm

Thanks.

8ari.joki
Edited: Aug 11, 2010, 6:50 am

Aagh.

Many cataloguing sources as well as our users often list things such as FAO or WHO publications using a corporate author. Other sources and users list the publications using the person as author. Thus, we have the same work listed both under FAO and under the person. How do I get this situation to combine?

Example:
Introduction to Tropical Fish Stock Assessment, Part Two: Exercises is entered both for Per Sparre as well as UN Food and Agriculture Organization. The URL:s for the two variants are these:

http://www.librarything.com/work/6342632
http://www.librarything.com/work/8951089

I have tried every nice and some dirty things I have been able to think of. How do I get these to work?

In frustration,
//AJJ

9skittles
Aug 11, 2010, 7:46 am

#8: done

10supersidvicious
Aug 11, 2010, 8:20 am

11stortemelk
Aug 11, 2010, 8:32 am

> 10 Done, from the editions page. It went to Random House though.

13stortemelk
Aug 11, 2010, 9:29 am

> 12 Done

14ari.joki
Aug 11, 2010, 10:02 am

#9: Beauteous. Thank'ee.

16stortemelk
Aug 11, 2010, 10:37 am

> 15 Done

19lorax
Aug 11, 2010, 2:00 pm

18>

No, I don't, but it doesn't matter. Tim's on record as saying that anything and everything that can be typed into the manual entry box is allowed on LT.

20supersidvicious
Aug 11, 2010, 2:52 pm

ok so what about changing the author to Renderosity?

22lorax
Aug 11, 2010, 3:17 pm

20>

What about it? It's a book in a single private user's catalog, there's no way anybody can contact them to suggest changing it, and even if they weren't private it's frowned upon to do that. They could list it as by William Shakespeare if they wanted and there's not a thing anyone else could do about it.

23supersidvicious
Edited: Aug 11, 2010, 3:47 pm

perfect following this logic why combining at all?
for example

http://www.librarything.com/work/5928641
http://www.librarything.com/work/4992273
http://www.librarything.com/work/1189467

instead of David A. Carter we could type Simon & Schuster or Simon, L. Schuster or even William Shakespeare, as you suggest...
the whole Combiners thread is useless.

24MarthaJeanne
Aug 11, 2010, 4:18 pm

I got one of them combined in.

25lorax
Aug 11, 2010, 4:30 pm

23>

Who are you responding to? Combining is not at all related to the inability to change another user's personal catalog data.

26supersidvicious
Aug 11, 2010, 4:34 pm

25> i'm answering to you to message 22>
I don't understand. MarthaJeanne 24> combined one work. http://www.librarything.com/work/5928641 is now pointing to http://www.librarything.com/work/1189467

the author (another user's personal catalog data) did not change from Simon & Schuster to David A. Carter?

27supersidvicious
Aug 11, 2010, 4:37 pm

25>
or if you combine

http://www.librarything.com/work/2764214
http://www.librarything.com/work/10283151

author typed by momathwtk remains Silver and author typed by myself remains Silver Burdett Ginn ?

28MarthaJeanne
Edited: Aug 11, 2010, 4:50 pm

26> No the user's catalogue data did not change.

27> yes, both user's catalogues remain as they are now.

This is a book in my catalogue where my author name does not match the one for the work.
http://www.librarything.com/work/658121/book/30618951
In this case I have the author Rabbi Menachem Davis entered, but the work has the author Menachem Davis. To make things more complicated, these are different ways of refering to the same person, so they have been combined, and Rabbi Menachem Davis is the combined name.

29lorax
Aug 11, 2010, 4:48 pm

26>

No, it didn't.

There were two works. Those can be combined. That doesn't have anything to do with changing the author on a single work, which is what you requested.

27>

Yes. Should those be combined?

30MarthaJeanne
Aug 11, 2010, 4:56 pm

From the ISBNs it looks like one is the teacher's edition and one is the pupil's edition.

32supersidvicious
Aug 11, 2010, 5:29 pm

>29 lorax: >30 MarthaJeanne: eventually I (immediately...) understood.
Author is not changed for a book, but in combining you choose a Canonical author. If you decide for whatever reason to use data different (Your Particular Author) from Canonical author for a book, you get for your book in your library
by Your Particular Author (otherwise under Canonical author).
thanks for clarifying

34lorax
Aug 11, 2010, 5:56 pm

32>

Almost!

It is possible but usually not recommended to choose a Canonical Author for a book (whether combined or not.) The reason it's not recommended in most cases is because of an irritating bug where once a Canonical Author has been set it can't be unset; it can be changed, but not blanked. Generally it gets used to do things like fix actual errors in the consensus author (like an ALL CAPS entry), not to force a particular choice. If a Canonical Author isn't specified, LT instead determines the author based on the majority of records (weighting library records somewhat more heavily than Amazon.) So if twenty people have a book listed as by Joe Author, ten as by Joe T. Author, and one as by Throat-Wobbler Mangrove, all of them will see it in their catalog exactly as they've entered it -- but anyone who doesn't have it will see it as by Joe Author when looking at the works page. Your initial request in #20 was akin to asking us to change the individual entry in the catalog of the person who'd entered it as by Throat-Wobbler Mangrove; impossible and contrary to LT policy.

35jjwilson61
Aug 11, 2010, 6:10 pm

supersid seems not to understand books and works. In LT the records in your library are books. LT combines books that are the same into works (that is various hard-cover, soft-cover, audio, and even translations are combined into a work). The author and title used for a work are determined by those authors and titles that are most used by members for that work. Canonical authors and titles are ways to override this mechanism when necessary.

37SimoneA
Aug 12, 2010, 7:01 am

I've combined #17, 21, 33 & 36

38theapparatus
Aug 12, 2010, 6:17 pm

Re: 21. Thanks

39theapparatus
Aug 12, 2010, 6:26 pm

Quick question. Should an Illustrated Edition of a work be combined with the original?

Example: http://www.librarything.com/work/10098201

It even suggests doing so on the Editions page but I wanted to ask first.

Thanks,
-drmike

40skittles
Aug 12, 2010, 6:36 pm

if you look at the other edition suggested you will see that the large group has special editions included...

so your answer is yes.

41lorax
Aug 12, 2010, 6:59 pm

39>

So long as the illustrated version contains all the text, and the illustrations aren't so major as to constitute the bulk of the work (so it's not a graphic novel adaptation, for instance), yes.

42skittles
Aug 12, 2010, 7:06 pm

lorax said it much better & more correctly than I did.

thank you, lorax!

43theapparatus
Edited: Aug 12, 2010, 7:25 pm

>40 skittles:: Thanks. I had seen the illustrated editions list but had wanted to make sure that it was correct and didn;t want to assume that it was. Thanks again.

edit: Thanks lorax as well. The connection dropped as I wrote that.

45stortemelk
Aug 15, 2010, 5:28 am

> 44 Done

46Talvitar
Aug 15, 2010, 12:15 pm

Ok, I'm way over my head here and don't want to mess things up...

I'm updating our old "Three Investigators" -books (A. Hitchcock / actually of course written by other people). A few problems:

http://fi.librarything.com/work/455774/editions/63494360
On adding "3 etsivää ja kauhujen linna = The Secret of the Terror Castle" it jumped to a work page of "3 etsivää ja tulinen silmä = The Mystery of the Fiery Eye" and also "Mystery of the Talking Skull"... I don't know how to separate these correctly.

This http://fi.librarything.com/work/10298709/ should be combined with this http://fi.librarything.com/work/754652.

This one http://fi.librarything.com/work/10294048 with this one http://fi.librarything.com/work/2001465

and

this http://fi.librarything.com/work/10294044 with this http://fi.librarything.com/work/667581.

Thanks!!!

47jmyers24
Aug 15, 2010, 1:12 pm

http://www.librarything.com/work/459180/book/63495477 (Death in Oslo) and http://www.librarything.com/work/459180/book/63426082 (What Never Happens) are Nos. 2 & 3 in this Anne Holt Series but when I added the Death in Oslo (No. 3) to my catalog it said it was duplicate entry with What Never Happens (No. 2) & vice versa. They are not duplicates; they are two totally different stories.

48MarthaJeanne
Edited: Aug 15, 2010, 2:13 pm

I've separated two batches of Death in Oslo out of What never happens and combined them. It is now here: http://www.librarything.com/work/10299051. Do you know the original title? If so it could be combined with that.

Note that the Spanish (?) title including 'Oslo' seems to be correct where it is.

49andejons
Edited: Aug 15, 2010, 2:53 pm

http://www.librarything.com/work/4936
http://www.librarything.com/work/8206075

Also, if someone feels like detective work (ha!) The Return of Sherlock Holmes seems to include both the twelve-story compilation that was created in Doyle's time as well as other collections (I've seen two reviews that mentions "three stories", and I've separated some audiobook versions which clearly listed the contents).

50MarthaJeanne
Aug 15, 2010, 2:55 pm

49> Please check the first link. There seems to be a problem with it.

51jmyers24
Aug 15, 2010, 3:21 pm

>48 MarthaJeanne: MarthaJeanne

Thanks.

"What Is Mine" is also shown as "Punishment" and "What Never Happens" as "The Final Murder" according to Anne Holt entry on wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Holt

52andejons
Aug 15, 2010, 3:47 pm

>50 MarthaJeanne:
Yes, I noticed. Better?

53stortemelk
Aug 15, 2010, 4:12 pm

> 46 Done

55stortemelk
Aug 16, 2010, 6:07 am

> 54 better not: same title, different writer. Vogl seems to be Christl Vogl, but there are no works on her page to combine Lotje is jarig with and way too many Vogls out there to do an author combination.

56paulhurtley
Aug 16, 2010, 7:59 am

>55 stortemelk: Are you sure they're different works?

58SimoneA
Aug 16, 2010, 10:07 am

#57 done

59henkl
Aug 16, 2010, 10:07 am

>56 paulhurtley: They're quite different books.

60theapparatus
Aug 16, 2010, 4:30 pm

Iffy on these so I;m asking for a double check:

http://www.librarything.com/work/7887555

http://www.librarything.com/work/181665

They're Marion Zimmer Bradley's works just for reference.

61skittles
Aug 16, 2010, 4:36 pm

#60 done from author's page

62theapparatus
Aug 16, 2010, 4:41 pm

>61 skittles: I was asking for a double check to make sure they were the same book. They were listed in one of the Darkover Series under different numbers. Note they're now listed twice under the Darkover: Chronological Order series.

63skittles
Aug 16, 2010, 6:27 pm

my call was that they were the same book... some one may have made a mistake listing them in the series list chron order

64kathrynnd
Aug 17, 2010, 4:49 am

Please combine this french translation with the main work (which will also move the title over to the majority author page L. R. Wright)

http://www.librarything.com/work/625885
http://www.librarything.com/work/9800839

Thank you.

65SimoneA
Aug 17, 2010, 5:14 am

#64 done

67SimoneA
Aug 17, 2010, 8:42 am

#66 done

69stortemelk
Aug 17, 2010, 9:17 am

> 68 Done

71SimoneA
Aug 17, 2010, 10:25 am

#70 done

73SimoneA
Aug 18, 2010, 3:13 am

#72 done.

75henkl
Aug 18, 2010, 6:22 am

78henkl
Aug 19, 2010, 3:32 am

>76 supersidvicious: I combined #2-4; someone else had combined #1 already.

>77 jseger9000: Done.

79AnnaClaire
Aug 19, 2010, 2:26 pm

Found this pair while surfing the new Deweyesque that was rolled out this morning.

http://www.librarything.com/work/5363291
http://www.librarything.com/work/456539

I checked the editions pages, and both have the same ISBN (1862760209), but since one doesn't have an author, I can't seem to get them combined.

80skittles
Aug 19, 2010, 2:34 pm

#79: done

81supersidvicious
Aug 19, 2010, 4:54 pm

please combine

http://www.librarything.com/work/2792271
http://www.librarything.com/work/4751249

btw this is the worst book I've ever read, you should own it for the Sake of Knowledge

82jseger9000
Aug 19, 2010, 8:02 pm

#78 - Thank you.

84SimoneA
Aug 20, 2010, 3:39 am

#81 and #83 are done

85jseger9000
Aug 20, 2010, 10:44 am

Please combine:

http://www.librarything.com/work/6288278

with:

http://www.librarything.com/work/10317980

(I'm working my way through the very messy 'Alfred Hitchcock Presents' books)

87Felagund
Aug 20, 2010, 1:58 pm

89Felagund
Aug 21, 2010, 3:29 am

90supersidvicious
Aug 21, 2010, 8:44 am

>84 SimoneA:
http://www.librarything.it/work/2792271
the work lost its rating: there's at least mine and before combining I saw two other ratings
thx

91SimoneA
Aug 21, 2010, 1:29 pm

>90 supersidvicious: I don't know how that could happen, maybe you need to wait some time or contact one of the LT people. I hope it will be solved!

92Heather19
Aug 22, 2010, 12:35 am

Er, I don't want to start a new topic, so I hope it's okay if I ask here:

The author James W. Hall (http://www.librarything.com/author/halljamesw) seems to have, at one point, been split into 14 "distinct" authors. Now, however, there are only books listed under the first 3, and what results is pretty stupid-looking, I think. All those James W. Hall's with no works.... Is there any way to fix that, or once an author is split does it just stay like that even if there are no books there?

93EveleenM
Edited: Aug 22, 2010, 2:15 am

#92
I think I know what happened and will see if I can fix it.

94EveleenM
Aug 22, 2010, 2:32 am

#92
Okay, I've fixed most of it. For reference:

I'm pretty sure that what happened was that James W. Hall was at one point combined with James Hall, and someone split that combined author, giving what looked like 14 James W. Halls, but which was really 3 James W. Halls and 11 James Halls. At some later stage, someone else noticed this and separated out and split James Hall. But once a work is assigned a split number on an author's page it holds it even if the work is sitting on another author's page, so the empty split number remains on the first author's page. (This is actually very sensible if works are listed under two authors and are seesawing between them, to prevent the split information being lost). So I
1 Temporarily combined James W. Hall and James Hall
2 Checked that James W. Hall comes up as the main author
3 Assigned all split numbers higher than 3 back to 0
4 Separated James Hall from James W. Hall again.

This has still left two empty split sections, and I can't locate which author page those works are on. If they're actually works with joint authors which could move back to the James W. Hall page, it would be better to leave the numbers in any case.

I hope that makes sense!

95Heather19
Aug 22, 2010, 3:04 am

... Wow. You are awesome. I never would've thought of all of that.

96jjwilson61
Aug 22, 2010, 10:36 am

It would be even better if Tim would fix the author page to not output splits when there are no books in them.

97skittles
Aug 22, 2010, 11:20 am

#96: how would that work?

When I assign authors, I split them, then assign books.

Since the split happens BEFORE the assignment of books to a particular author split preventing them would mean that authors couldn't be split & books assigned.

Can you explain so I can understand what you mean?

98jjwilson61
Edited: Aug 22, 2010, 1:37 pm

I just looked at the split author page and it looks like you split and assign works to the splits at the same time. But even if you split first and assign works as a separate step, you could have all the splits show up of the Split This Author page but still have the empty ones suppressed on the main Author page.

99bell7
Aug 22, 2010, 5:29 pm

I think I goofed on some combining and separating I was trying to do this afternoon. I noticed that a Bartimaeus Graphic Novel had been combined with the full novel The Amulet of Samarkand. I separated out the ones with "graphic novel" in the title, including some 0 copies that I meant to recombine - but now they're not showing up on the author page and I could've sworn there was more than a single copy of the graphic novels, which now I can't find anywhere. Anyone want to take a look and let me know where I goofed?

The original work is here - http://www.librarything.com/work/56997

and the graphic novel - http://www.librarything.com/work/10325705

Thanks!

100carport
Aug 22, 2010, 9:18 pm

Please combine these copies of Sew Vintage

http://www.librarything.com/work/3316892

with these

http://www.librarything.com/work/833748

p.s. I have just combined two "sets" of the same work into the work in the second link. This caused the 1 review to disappear. Will it re-appear after some time, or shall I report this?

101skittles
Aug 22, 2010, 9:35 pm

#100: Done & I don't know.

102bell7
Edited: Aug 23, 2010, 7:02 am

>101 skittles: Ah well, at least it's not just me that couldn't find it... :)

Edited to add: oops, I just realized you were probably referring to the review question from #100. Sorry

103Heather19
Aug 22, 2010, 9:54 pm

Question for those who understand LT's inner-workings better then I do:

Is there some character-limit on titles, after which the system doesn't "recognize" the rest of the title or something? The reason I ask is because last night I seperated some long-titled works, where most of the title was the same but the last few words were different (I hate trying to explain this stuff).

For instance, if there are two books called "The Bobbly Head Rides a Horse to North America" and "The Bobbly Head Rides a Horse to North Korea" (just made those up on the spot), is it possible that the system will only see up until North and auto-combine them?

104DaynaRT
Aug 22, 2010, 9:57 pm

Yes, there's a point at which LT gives up and says, "I guess these are the same." I don't remember the eaxct number though.

105jjwilson61
Aug 23, 2010, 12:32 am

It also stops comparing and assumes two titles are the same if it runs into a colon (and maybe some other characters?).

106flabuckeye
Aug 23, 2010, 8:30 am

105
A good example is my latest entries "The Best of the West vol 1:" and "The Best of the West vol 2:" that LT has placed with a later paperback by Tony Hillerman. Almost the same name but not the same content or authors. Split?

107skittles
Aug 23, 2010, 8:33 am

split

separate

divide

keep apart

isolate

yes.

108carport
Aug 23, 2010, 7:35 pm

>101 skittles: Thank you, skittles. BTW, the review has returned. :-)

110skittles
Aug 24, 2010, 10:06 am

#109: done.

I combined the two groups & then separated out the graphic novel.

graphic novel
http://www.librarything.com/work/10332825

I put in a tersely worded disambiguation notice, but it will work.... if someone wants to change it to something more reader friendly, feel free.

paperback editions
http://www.librarything.com/work/6047370

Series need cleaning up.

112skittles
Aug 24, 2010, 12:58 pm

#111: done

113AnnaClaire
Aug 24, 2010, 1:08 pm

Please combine these three with each other (but not with the work from which they were shrunk):
http://www.librarything.com/work/10333658
http://www.librarything.com/work/10333676
http://www.librarything.com/work/10333719

114skittles
Aug 24, 2010, 1:19 pm

#113: done

115jseger9000
Aug 24, 2010, 1:54 pm

Cleaning up the No Fear Shakeseare series again (and the No Fear Shakespeare Graphic Novels).

Please combine:
http://www.librarything.com/work/10333586

with:
http://www.librarything.com/work/10333551

118theapparatus
Edited: Aug 24, 2010, 5:55 pm

>115 jseger9000:, 116, 117: Working on them.

edit: Done

121Felagund
Aug 25, 2010, 4:49 am

122theapparatus
Aug 25, 2010, 4:27 pm

I'm tied up with a project but if anyone is bored and willing to overlook that these aren't books, the Stargate DVDs need to be cleaned up and combined a bit:

http://www.librarything.com/search_works.php?q=stargate+dvd&sort=title

123macsbrains
Aug 25, 2010, 4:37 pm

I just saw this on my home page under the most currently read books at the moment. Something must be wrong since it has no title, but I don't know how to take it from there.

http://www.librarything.com/work/10328331

124skittles
Aug 25, 2010, 4:46 pm

I think you found a black hole work.

see this thread: http://www.librarything.com/topic/80849

there are a few other threads also dealing with this monster!

125macsbrains
Aug 25, 2010, 5:47 pm

>124 skittles:

Fascinating. I'll keep an extra eye out when adding books from now on in case I notice anything weird in the import process.

126prosfilaes
Aug 26, 2010, 12:12 am

Can someone combine

http://www.librarything.com/work/10339750
http://www.librarything.com/work/10339751 ?

I separated out But What of Earth? by Piers Anthony and Robert Coulson from the later editions of But What of Earth?, by Piers Anthony alone (that also include a large rant about how the publisher called in another author to rip it to shreds behind his back), and these are the versions of the first edition under each author's name.

127gangleri
Aug 26, 2010, 11:59 am

Hi!

I am not shure if the following should be combined:
a) http://www.librarything.com/work/7719872/editions
b) http://www.librarything.com/work/1448751/editions
c) http://www.librarything.com/work/4538772/editions

remarks:

01) I wounder why there is no "safe way" (implemented in the user interface) for combinations of works accross authors.
02) b) "belongs" to http://www.librarything.com/author/reviewofcontemporary Review of Contemporary Fiction and c) "belongs" to
http://www.librarything.com/author/baronedennis Dennis Barone

I suspect that in particular cases combinations accross authors have many site effects / are the cause for many site effects:
i) works do not show up at all involved authors unless some edits are made in the records; this is / might be a sporadic action which may never happen; in the mean time information is distorted (verfälscht) - not up to date
ii) the information at catalog is / might be alterated as wll; example catalog will list authors but if you click on these link no works / not all works are associated with these authors; this is another aspect of i)
ii) it might happen that Common Knowledge information as series, etc. are overwitten in a batch mode; this is difficult to track becuase one would need to open different browser tabs with the CK of the involved works **before** they are combined; after combination one of the CK id's is not visible any more

Regards Reinhardt

P.S. Please feel free to open a topic for further discussions.

128skittles
Aug 26, 2010, 12:12 pm

the discussion thread is here:

http://www.librarything.com/topic/57164

Thank you.

129AnnaClaire
Aug 26, 2010, 12:21 pm

>128 skittles:
Who did you intend that post for? This is the individual requests thread, and I haven't seen any discussion here that didn't originate from a specific problem.

130jpers36
Aug 26, 2010, 12:47 pm

Looks like the Latin and translated versions of the Aeneid are combined into a single work. Is this right, or does the cultural significance of the original Latin mean they should be separated? Same goes for the individual volume works.

131skittles
Aug 26, 2010, 1:26 pm

#128 was a response to #127 since the poster mentioned we could take the discussion elsewhere.

The discussion thread is for more detailed discussions that usually happen in this thread... but if you prefer to have a long discussion here, you may do so.

I should have ##'d it.

132jjwilson61
Aug 26, 2010, 1:31 pm

127> i) works do not show up at all involved authors unless some edits are made in the records; this is / might be a sporadic action which may never happen; in the mean time information is distorted (verfälscht) - not up to date

As LT is currently designed, works should show up only under one author*. This can result in the unfortunate circumstance where clicking on the author in one's own catalog will lead to an author page in which the work in question is not listed. However, if you click on the work instead of the author in your catalog you will get that parenthetical after the author's name that will show the author where the work is actually listed.

*Sometimes after someone changes an author name in their catalog the work will show up on more than one author's page, but this is temporary and will revert to being on just one author's page when the caches catch up).

134MarthaJeanne
Edited: Aug 26, 2010, 2:51 pm

>132 jjwilson61: * But it is a big help when trying to combine things properly after the source has catalogued things peculiarly, since we aren't supposed to separate the now empty edition out.

136r.orrison
Aug 27, 2010, 3:05 am

133, 135: Done

138skittles
Aug 27, 2010, 10:55 am

#137: done, but you might want to check titles, etc., since in the second group, the 4 copied work didn't have a complete title.

139DaynaRT
Aug 27, 2010, 10:58 am

It all looks good. Thanks.

140jseger9000
Aug 27, 2010, 11:11 am

142skittles
Aug 27, 2010, 11:22 am

#140 & 141: done

144skittles
Aug 27, 2010, 11:27 am

#143: done

145theapparatus
Aug 27, 2010, 1:22 pm

On iPod. Excuse short. Someone maybe add CK to black hole to point at forum discussion and maybe workaround on how to deal with it?

147theapparatus
Aug 27, 2010, 1:43 pm

>146 jpers36:. Could have sworn we were discussing that elsewhere in the forums. (Would love to go look and provide a link but I'm on a library computer with just a single browser pane and no copy and paste.)

148jpers36
Aug 27, 2010, 2:44 pm

149r.orrison
Aug 27, 2010, 5:28 pm

146, 148: Done

150theapparatus
Aug 27, 2010, 8:11 pm

Greets:

Someone with time please take a few minutes and review this author. I see some possible dupes but I'm sitting on a bench and it's about to rain:

http://www.librarything.com/author/nortonmarybeth

thanks,
-drmike

151skittles
Aug 27, 2010, 8:44 pm

#150: I'm playing with it/them... but there is a brief edition partially combined in... I'm going to just play with the volume 1 & 2 & semi-complete editions. I'm going to leave the brief ones as is, but I just caught myself combining a brief condition into a 'general' edition volume 1 or 2. ... and many don't have the brief in the title. I'm not going to play with the isbn... if brief isn't in the title, I'm putting it with the completes...

gggrrrr!!!!

153DemetriosX
Aug 28, 2010, 10:26 am

Can someone please combine

http://www.librarything.com/work/5935214/
http://www.librarything.com/work/198604

The system just doesn't want to recognize them as the same book.

154theapparatus
Edited: Aug 28, 2010, 11:17 am

Re: 153: You an add in the author to the 5935214 work since that's yours and combine them on the author's page. I'll combine them though.

edit: Done. 152 as well. I carried over the Disambiguation Notice on the Piers Anthony novel as well to all three ISBNs instead of just one.

156henkl
Aug 28, 2010, 1:36 pm

> 155.Done.

157LolaWalser
Aug 28, 2010, 1:53 pm

Dank u wel!

158DemetriosX
Aug 28, 2010, 5:19 pm

>154 theapparatus:: Thanks, I hadn't even noticed there was no author. I must have been at the limit of what my brain will let me enter without zoning out.

161EveleenM
Edited: Aug 29, 2010, 4:37 am

I'll do #159
eta: done.

162henkl
Aug 29, 2010, 5:50 am

164Felagund
Aug 29, 2010, 8:28 am

165theapparatus
Aug 29, 2010, 10:58 am

>skittles Thanks for trying.

166DaynaRT
Aug 29, 2010, 11:01 am

Thanks Felagund.

168SimoneA
Aug 30, 2010, 3:42 am

#167 done

169prosfilaes
Aug 31, 2010, 12:56 am

170Felagund
Aug 31, 2010, 2:29 am

172skittles
Sep 1, 2010, 2:16 pm

#171: done

173prosfilaes
Sep 2, 2010, 10:01 pm

Can someone combined the Monster Manual for D&D 3.5 with its German counterpart?

http://www.librarything.com/work/23275
http://www.librarything.com/work/10372303

174skittles
Sep 2, 2010, 10:23 pm

#173: done

176SimoneA
Sep 3, 2010, 3:05 am

#175 done

177theapparatus
Edited: Sep 3, 2010, 9:22 am

Per a discussion in another thread, I;m adding in a link to the "Combine more than 200 records" thread to the original post.

Hopefully it's copy correctly when he next thread is opened.

edit: Added. Please let me know if it;'s ok.

178bell7
Sep 3, 2010, 9:25 am

>177 theapparatus: Worked for me!

179theapparatus
Sep 3, 2010, 9:29 am

Cool. I;m in the middle of a project and I;m not feeling too well this morning so my typing is off. Someone may want to edit the wiki please:

http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/Book_combining

181SimoneA
Sep 4, 2010, 12:37 pm

#180 done

182theapparatus
Edited: Sep 5, 2010, 1:34 pm

I;m getting time out errors from LT so I;m hoping someone else can take a shot at this author:

http://www.librarything.com/author/mitanaduan
http://www.librarything.com/author/mitanadusan
http://www.librarything.com/author/duanmitana

There's others too if you search for the author's last name. Please take a look.

Please also mathc this author up if possible. Someone is uploading images for him:

http://www.librarything.com/author/banksianbanksiainban

183EveleenM
Edited: Sep 5, 2010, 1:55 pm

#182 I'll do those authors

The first author turned up two cases of that annoying bug where the author name was no longer in the system, even though there was still a work on the page. (Because the work is still credited to an earlier version of the author name, even though the existing copies have been edited to a more correct version of the name). I know that Tim doesn't want us to separate zero-copy works, but until he comes up with a recalculate numbers button, separating the zero-copy-no-longer-in-the-system editions is the simplest way to fix this. Separating them landed the works on the correct author page, but the second two authors aren't combined because they're no longer in the system.

185r.orrison
Edited: Sep 5, 2010, 2:08 pm

As noted in the Other Names section of each, Allyson James is a pseudonym of Jennifer Ashley. The two pages could should be combined if there are no other authors with either name.

Edited because LibraryThing allows <strike> but not <s>.

186theapparatus
Sep 5, 2010, 2:11 pm

Thanks. I'm getting time out errors on LT. (Had to reload this page three times just to see your post) That's why I asked someone else to do it.

188theapparatus
Sep 5, 2010, 5:51 pm

Someone may review Norvell Page works:

http://www.librarything.com/log_helpers.php?view=pictures

Hopefully you can catch these before they pass onto the next page. The ones with the images uploaded by the user NorvellPaqe.

189EveleenM
Sep 5, 2010, 5:55 pm

#184 authors combined.

190skittles
Sep 5, 2010, 8:38 pm

#187: done

191theapparatus
Edited: Sep 5, 2010, 9:49 pm

If someone gets really bored, I just discovered a user who uses the first name of authors in a number of their records. Flipping through randomly, some of the works be to be combined as they're listed separately from the real title.

http://www.librarything.com/catalog/petergrant/yourlibrary

edit: Not as bad as I originally thought.

192theapparatus
Sep 5, 2010, 9:19 pm

193kathrynnd
Sep 6, 2010, 1:30 am

>>191 theapparatus: edit: Not as bad as I originally thought.

Nah you were right the first time, the member has also used a first and second name of an author (John Warwick Montgomery)
skipping the surname. I had to split the author John Warwick because of this.

194r.orrison
Sep 6, 2010, 2:32 am

193: Fixed John Warwick by combining the Montgomery books where they belonged. He now has his page to himself.

I'll start going through petergrant's library as time permits, combining singletons where possible.
Anyone up to a polite notice on his profile?

195EveleenM
Sep 6, 2010, 3:28 am

#191
I think in a previous combiners' thread people already dealt with most of that library - it's definitely come up before.

I kinow I assumed at the time that it was a case of a batch upload gone wrong: if it's been like that since 2007, I doubt if the owner is around to notice messages.

196theapparatus
Sep 6, 2010, 6:44 am

The "not as bad" comment comes from deciding to start from the end and working my way forward. The last three pages were fine. Then he stopped using the surname.

There's a note from nearly two weeks ago about fixing an issue with a book. I went ahead and did it myself last night.

The last entry date is Jan 20, 2009. Also looks like they used to be a paying customer but let it drop since they're now listed as free.

198r.orrison
Sep 6, 2010, 4:25 pm

197: Done

199jjwilson61
Sep 6, 2010, 8:51 pm

183> The first author turned up two cases of that annoying bug where the author name was no longer in the system, even though there was still a work on the page. (Because the work is still credited to an earlier version of the author name, even though the existing copies have been edited to a more correct version of the name). I know that Tim doesn't want us to separate zero-copy works, but until he comes up with a recalculate numbers button, separating the zero-copy-no-longer-in-the-system editions is the simplest way to fix this. Separating them landed the works on the correct author page, but the second two authors aren't combined because they're no longer in the system.

Could you send this directly to Tim? There was a thread where Tim asked why people were separating out the zero copy editions and no one in that thread could seem to come up with anything concrete. So if there is something that needs to be fixed it would be best not to assume that Tim will notice the report in this thread.

200EveleenM
Sep 6, 2010, 9:08 pm

#199
I think it was that thread that he mentioned the possibility of a recalculate numbers button, actually. It's much easier to explain this bug with a concrete example, so I think I'll wait till the next time I come across it before sending it to Tim.

201janemarieprice
Sep 6, 2010, 9:28 pm

I combined these two authors who are the same:

http://www.librarything.com/author/martindoug
http://www.librarything.com/author/martindouglasw

but it killed the LT Author badge. Any idea how to fix this?

202Noisy
Sep 7, 2010, 1:52 am

>201 janemarieprice:

Well, if you did combine them, they seem to be separate again, with the author badge still on the second linked name. I'll leave them uncombined for the time being, in case you want to have another go. If you do, then I'd suggest doing the combination from the Douglas W. page, rather than the other one.

I have removed the reviews that the author placed on his own works, and I have flagged his personal reviews as well. I have PMed him with why I did this.

203theapparatus
Sep 7, 2010, 9:10 am