Combining/Separating (Please Fix This Book!) Request Thread #54

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Combining/Separating (Please Fix This Book!) Request Thread #54

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1jasbro
Jan 27, 2013, 9:14 pm

**Please read as there have been modifications**
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This thread is for LT’ers or thingamabrarians, or members, or their designees, to post combining or separating problems with their books.

** If a book has been combined with a book that is extremely different from the original.
** If a book won’t combine with the other books just like it.
** There is a problem with the entry & it is just too overwhelming to deal with.

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WHEN YOU POST:

Give us the TITLE & author, plus any other information you think we might need & please NUMBER them if you post more than one.

Example:
..Please combine:

#1: The story of the life of you
http://www.librarything.com/work/XXXXXX
http://www.librarything.com/work/YYYYYYYY

#2: The story of the life of everyone else
http://www.librarything.com/work/WWWWW
http://www.librarything.com/work/ZZZZZZZZ

** Please do not give us search pages or author pages.
Give us concrete & specific works to be combined, not groups of possibles, unless you have questions. Series pages can be helpful.

** You can ask us to look at a set of works to ask our opinions or ask if someone with a specific language or subject knowledge look at your request, but please be brief.

** Make your request easy for yourself & for the combiners who will help you.

Then you can just wait, “and someone will be with you shortly.”
Please, keep in mind this work is done by volunteers, not LT staff.

*** If you number multiple requests, it makes it easier if someone can only work on part of a request.

*** If you edit your post to add new items to be combined, please indicate that they are new by preceding with “ETA:” or “Edit:”.

*** Also, please indicate when a request has been "DONE".
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Tim’s Guidelines for Proper Etiquette for contacting members about their book records:

“For this topic, I still feel strongly that I’d like to consider it bad form. Many others agree with me. But a few think I’m dictating and are angry about that. So, fine. Let’s just write some guidelines up. I propose that the guidelines be something along the lines of:

* Remember that LibraryThing is used for many different reasons. The way you use and enjoy the site is not necessarily the way others do.
* Be sensitive to how the member is using LibraryThing. Approach members who show no interest in the social side more cautiously.
* Try to provide helpful information and ask questions rather than dictating.
* If the user indicates displeasure at the request, let it drop.
* When in doubt, raise the issue in the Combiners! group before sending a message.”

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Skittles’ note: I would like to add that we should ALWAYS use private comment when we absolutely must contact a LT’er, even when their response isn’t private.
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Dr Mike’s (aka theapparatus) note:

If both works that need to be combine have more than 200 records, please post your request in this thread:

http://www.librarything.com/topic/95602

You need staff intervention to handle that request.
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When this thread reaches approximately 200 posts, DO NOT POST HERE, but go to thread #45. This thread will be easier to handle if we keep it under 200 (faster loading). Please copy any notes or instructions to the new thread. Thank you.

Feel free to add comments &/or suggestions ... not just “challenges.”

** There is also a Combiner’s Group Information, FAQ & Discussion Thread #2 at: http://www.librarything.com/topic/57164 . That thread is for combining information, discussion in general, not for problems ... .

** The wiki page is here: http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/Book_combining

Addendum by AnnieMod: We will help no matter what, it just makes it faster if we have all the information as described above.

3Nicole_VanK
Jan 28, 2013, 4:33 am

> 2: Done.

4sjnorquist
Jan 28, 2013, 8:19 am

I have entered a song cycle by an obscure, but reasonably prominent, 20th century composer with the unfortunate name of Karl Marx. I have created an identity for him as Karl Marx (2) (http://www.librarything.com/author/marxkarl-2), and written a disambiguation notice. My question is whether all of the many entries for the other KM now need to be formally assigned to Karl Marx (1) (I hope not), or can they be left as they are now as "unknown"?

5MarthaJeanne
Edited: Jan 28, 2013, 9:48 am

They do need to be assigned. I have done some of them.

BTW Dracula is a big mess. I only cleaned up the work that includes an article by Marx.

7omargosh
Jan 28, 2013, 3:46 pm

> 6 Done.

8MarthaJeanne
Jan 28, 2013, 4:26 pm

4,5> Someone finished the Marx page. Looks wonderful.

9henkl
Jan 28, 2013, 5:22 pm

>8 MarthaJeanne: : Yes, I did, but forgot to report it here.

10SkuldOMG
Jan 28, 2013, 5:36 pm

Hello, please separate

Das Imperium von Nar 03: Die Armee der Raben
http://www.librarything.com/work/317680/summary/93296649

from
Das Imperium von Nar 05: Die Heiligen des Schwertes
http://www.librarything.com/work/317680/summary/93296760

They are books 3 and 5, respectively, of the Tyrants and Kings series and I don't know why they seem linked (whenever I edit book 5 to be the fifth book of the series, the 3rd also changes to be the 5th and vice versa).

Thanks!

11sister_ray
Jan 28, 2013, 5:52 pm

Please combine:

http://www.librarything.com/work/13449221/

http://www.librarything.com/work/593243

They are identical, just different bindings.

12tremali
Edited: Jan 28, 2013, 7:29 pm

#10 is done.

Edited: I'm a bit confused by this though. "Die Heiligen des Schwertes" seems to be the German translation of the title of the 3rd book and the author's site only lists 3 books in this series. Not at all familiar with this guy though.

Edited one more time: Seems the German editions have two books for each of the English ones. I'll do some more tidying on this to reflect that.

13tremali
Jan 28, 2013, 7:16 pm

11 is done.

14sjnorquist
Jan 28, 2013, 7:56 pm

>8 MarthaJeanne: & 9. Thanks re Marx. I got MarthaJeanne's reply just as I was leaving for work this morning. Sorry I didn't have time to help clean up the mess I (or Karl Marx 2's parent) created.

15SkuldOMG
Edited: Jan 29, 2013, 1:29 am

>12 tremali:

"Die Heiligen des Schwertes" is the 5th book in the series. The 3rd one is called "Die Armee der Raben". Thanks a lot!

16MarthaJeanne
Jan 29, 2013, 2:33 am

14> Not your fault. The second author was actually mentioned in the disambiguation message. Now it's done. Actually easier when there aren't a lot of the second author lurking around. I have a really bad cold at the moment, and can only sit for a limited amount of time, or I would have finished it.

17sjnorquist
Jan 29, 2013, 7:39 am

>14 sjnorquist: thanks again. Yes, I had written the disambiguation message regarding the 2nd author, but didn't know what to do next. I love the spirit of cooperation at LT!

18MarthaJeanne
Jan 29, 2013, 2:46 pm

I end up bringing the ends of things here when I get to the end of what I can do, so in return I fix up other things when I can. That's all it is.

19JerryMmm
Edited: Jan 31, 2013, 4:09 pm

20tremali
Jan 31, 2013, 9:20 pm

19> It doesn't seem to want to combine since the first link has no works associated.

21jasbro
Feb 1, 2013, 10:12 am

Who knows how to do an Author combination like that requested in #19? Is there a way to associate a "Work" with that "Author," at least temporarily? Thank you!

22Nicole_VanK
Feb 1, 2013, 10:17 am

Normally just use search for combining and then combine. The fact that they won't let us for "other authors" such as these is a bug.

23leselotte
Feb 1, 2013, 11:04 am

Could someone please have a look at the combination issues for Andreas Steinhöfel?

http://www.librarything.com/author/steinhfelandreas/issues

I don't seem to be able to fix it by myself. Thanks!

24omargosh
Feb 1, 2013, 11:24 am

> 23
Hi leselotte, I think I moved all the CK over to the right Andreas Steinhöfel (let me know if I got the wrong guy!). I don't know if part of the trouble was the fact that the "stranded" CK was in the German language, and if you're using the site in English (don't know if this is your case), you have to go into the German CK to remove it instead of trying to remove it from the English CK. But if you're using the German site and having problems, I don't know, maybe it's indicative of some bug? In any case, the disambiguation page no longer has CK "issues".

25leselotte
Feb 1, 2013, 12:10 pm

> 24
Hi omargosh, thanks a lot! Looks good :)
Yes, I'm using the English site (although I probably should use the German site more, seeing most of my entered books are in German, but I simply feel more comfortable with the English version!)

27tremali
Feb 2, 2013, 9:52 am

26> done

28leselotte
Feb 2, 2013, 7:52 pm

Please combine:

http://www.librarything.com/work/3796679/book/11709634

http://www.librarything.com/work/2607103/book/68313348

Both are complete translations of "1001 Nights". Should probably be combined into the complete "1001 Nights" English translation as well.

Thanks!

29Nicole_VanK
Edited: Feb 3, 2013, 2:19 am

> 28: Seems to be done.

p.s.: Since I'm not sure there's just one single original of the "1001 Nights" I'm reluctant to combine it with other full versions.

30leselotte
Feb 3, 2013, 8:26 am

> 29
Yes, that's why I was reluctant as well.
I just looked at my edition, and it's indeed an unabridged version containing 1001 tales. The translation is based on an Arabic edition from 1839, the first time these stories have been translated into German from the original and not from existing English or French editions.
I'd combine with this work:

http://www.librarything.com/work/8137482

Any other opinions?

And thanks to whoever fulfilled my request :)

31krazy4katz
Feb 3, 2013, 1:49 pm

Hi everyone,

I wonder if there is any good way to fix this:
http://www.librarything.com/author/diamant

I made the mistake of combining Diamant with Anita Diamant. This pulled in a work by Louis Diamant, so I separated out the author names again. Now "Diamant" contains works by both Louis and Anita.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Best wishes,

k4k

32henkl
Feb 3, 2013, 2:02 pm

>31 krazy4katz:: I split the author Diamant. Then I aliased Diamant-1 into Anita Diamant and Diamant-2 into Louis Diamant.

33henkl
Edited: Feb 3, 2013, 2:07 pm

Duplicate message

34krazy4katz
Feb 3, 2013, 2:08 pm

Thank you, Henkl!

35jasbro
Edited: Feb 4, 2013, 12:27 pm

> 30: Assuming you've identified an LT record for the most comparable, complete edition, I would absolutely combine yours with all the others like it. Indeed, it would help me when I get around to cataloging our Richard Burton, The Arabian Nights: Tales from a Thousand and One Nights (soon, I promise!); except that I'll likely catalog each volume of the set separately. (I'm just "that way" ... .)

> 32: Noting that all the Louis Diamant titles apparently have migrated or been moved from the disambiguation page, I took the one Anita Diamant title left there, The Red Tent: Picador USA Reading Group Guides a couple of steps further. First using "Add other authors" to change the primary Author from last-name only to "last name, first name," I was then able to "Add a work-to-work relationship," relating the Reading Guides to Anita Diamant's original novel, The Red Tent. Please let me know if you disagree.

Thank you!

36henkl
Feb 4, 2013, 4:39 pm

>35 jasbro:: About Diamant: very good.

37sjnorquist
Feb 4, 2013, 11:48 pm

I have separated out and assigned works to three Michael Heads http://www.librarything.com/author/headmichael. As I indicate in the disambiguation notice, the third appears to be identical to Michael G. Head http://www.librarything.com/author/headmichaelg. Could someone more experienced than I am do the appropriate aliasing?

38europhile
Feb 5, 2013, 12:50 am

#37 Done. No aliasing necessary as there were works common to both.

39sjnorquist
Feb 5, 2013, 7:53 am

>38 europhile: Thanks. I'm glad to know that for future work.

40bkoppe
Feb 7, 2013, 7:04 pm

Please combine:

The Book of Culture: The Basis of a Liberal Education by Ethel Peyser
http://www.librarything.com/work/13492546/
http://www.librarything.com/work/13492544/
http://www.librarything.com/work/3283652/
http://www.librarything.com/work/13492542/
http://www.librarything.com/work/3283652/
http://www.librarything.com/work/13492510/

It appears that these are not only all the same work, but all except for the last are the same book as well (all are hardcover first editions from 1934).

As I am pretty new to all this and just figuring out the quirks of how LibraryThing works (and, I have to say, there are MANY, but that's for another topic!), here is some additional info in case it may be helpful:

While I see the author listed as both Ethel Peyser and Ethel R. Peyser in these works, she is referenced on the cover and the title page as, simply, Ethel Peyser. She signs her name Ethel R. Peyser at the end of the introduction. I don't know if that make a difference in the proper way to name her on the work page.

Additionally, the title is listed on the spine of the book as, simply, "The Book of Culture". The title page contains the text, "The Book of Culture: The Basis of a Liberal Education by Ethel Peyser" (colon added by me to signify line/font change) followed by Garden City Publishing Company, Inc.'s logo, name, and location. This seems to be the complete title. There is a page before the title page that contains the text, "The Book of Culture: A Springboard to Learning" (again, colon added by me), but this seems to me to be, an alternate title at the time this was printed, not the primary title. On the other hand, you'll notice that the 2010 printing of this book uses this as the primary title. I am not sure how this situation is properly handled.

After writing this, it occurs to me that I could take some pictures for clarity, so those are linked below:

Spine: https://www.dropbox.com/s/b2kwyqj34imtlsg/2013-02-07%2017.42.19.jpg
Second page (first page is blank): https://www.dropbox.com/s/vbeqxutcxul487v/2013-02-07%2017.43.17.jpg
Third page (title page): https://www.dropbox.com/s/d73r0l3rb9xdwto/2013-02-07%2017.43.24.jpg

41jjwilson61
Feb 7, 2013, 10:49 pm

I don't know if that make a difference in the proper way to name her on the work page.

The trick is that there is no "proper" way. What shows up on the work page is and should be what the majority of users use on their books. There are cases where what shows on the work page is completely and utterly wrong and in those cases you can use the overrides on the work page to change it but those cases should be rare.

42JerryMmm
Edited: Feb 8, 2013, 6:13 am

#40 done

And don't be discouraged that you couldn't combined these easily. 0 copies like this can be impossible to combine normally.

43SaintSunniva
Edited: Feb 9, 2013, 2:17 pm

For some reason my copy of
As Nature Made Him http://www.librarything.com/work/13427398/book/93352342
is not counted with the other hundreds of copies on LT.
http://www.librarything.com/work/5223

Please combine them, thanks!

44jasbro
Feb 9, 2013, 2:38 pm

> 43: Done; thank you!

45bonne1978
Feb 10, 2013, 6:39 am

Please combine
www.librarything.com/work/11948315
www.librarything.com/work/12749661
www.librarything.com/work/214526

46JerryMmm
Feb 10, 2013, 6:48 am

hmm, those authornames need some study before combination etc, 2 brothers, change of names, pseudonyms, not touching it myself.

47henkl
Feb 10, 2013, 7:16 am

>45 bonne1978:: Done. Combining is correct: same author (the eldest of the two brothers), same book.

48henkl
Feb 10, 2013, 7:18 am

>45 bonne1978:: Done.

The proposal to combine is correct: same author (the eldest of the two brothers), same book.

49MarthaJeanne
Feb 10, 2013, 7:19 am

I have combined two of them. Couldn't find confirmation that the Swedish is the same book.

50henkl
Feb 10, 2013, 9:00 am

51dltucker
Feb 11, 2013, 8:30 am


Here's an sf series from the late 70s/early 80s. The series is correctly indicated for books / order of books as "Lord Tedric", link here:

http://www.librarything.com/series/Lord+Tedric

Some of the underlying works are indicated as by ee doc smith. However, all are actually written by Gordon Eklund. Smith developed an outline and plot from which Eklund developed his novels. I assume the relative size of smith's and eklund's names helped with sales :-) In some cover images, I note Eklund's name does not appear at all, but 3rd party sources can be used to verify eklund is the author of all 4 of these books.

I think one could justify listing Smith as a co-author? I leave that to others who know better how these things are handled. The title pages of my copies do not indicate Smith though the covers feature his name prominently, if that helps.


#1
Lord Tedric
http://www.librarything.com/work/178612 - also needs author fixed
http://www.librarything.com/work/12365422

#2
Space Pirates
http://www.librarything.com/work/1174628 - also needs author fixed
http://www.librarything.com/work/5269114 - also needs author fixed. I'm concerned from cover image this may belong to #1, but so be it.
http://www.librarything.com/work/1139698

#3
The Black Knight of the Iron Sphere
http://www.librarything.com/work/1007003 - also needs author fixed
http://www.librarything.com/work/39854

#4
Lord Tedric and Alien Realms
http://www.librarything.com/work/1099415 - not really a combiner, just needs the author fixed.

thanks!

52jasbro
Feb 11, 2013, 2:11 pm

> 51: Based on your research and recommendations, I've done the combinations, shown E.E. "Doc" Smith and Gordon Eklund as co-authors (although "Doc" doesn't show), and flagged the apparently inaccurate Member-loaded covers. (As a practical matter, we can't do anything about Amazon's misinformation, so I didn't even look.)

If I got something wrong, or if somebody has better solutions, please improve on it. At least these records are now in one place (OK, in four places). Thank you!

53jjwilson61
Edited: Feb 11, 2013, 4:04 pm

Why can't you do anything about Amazon's misinformation? Although I've never done it, several people here have reported that once they inform Amazon about bad data that they're prompt about cleaning it up.

54jasbro
Edited: Feb 11, 2013, 5:58 pm

> 53: Maybe it's more "as a personal matter," or maybe I'm just not so inclined. I use Amazon info only sparingly, and haven't researched how to make such reports. I admit having no basis to assess Amazon's responsiveness, one way or the other. I'd welcome guidance to the contrary (maybe an LT thread on point?) if you can give it, and apologize if I've made improper assumptions. Please advise, and thanks!

ETA: On review, all the "Lord Tedric" covers from Amazon seem appropriate, making my initial comment even further off-base. :o(

55MarthaJeanne
Feb 12, 2013, 1:27 am

To do it you need an Amazon account. There is a fairly clear form, and they usually do fix things fairly soon. Of course this doesn't fix the bad info already here, and sometimes it is necessary to inform more than one Amazon.

British Library and LoC also will correct mistakes if you find them. BL is faster and more responsive in these cases.

56Savages
Feb 12, 2013, 7:33 am

Please separate these two books: http://www.librarything.com/catalog/Savages&collection=-1&deepsearch=pet...
Same title and author, but one is a short exhibition catalogue (72pp) from 1991, the other a very substantial monograph from 2010. They are completely different books, as explained in the 2010 preface, not an updated version of the same book.

57henkl
Feb 12, 2013, 7:48 am

59vancouverdeb
Feb 13, 2013, 12:34 am

Please combine the following two books. They are identical books - same author, title and also I just mailed a copy of the book to the other person who listed their copy. Thanks so much!

http://www.librarything.com/work/13272133/book/91986916

http://www.librarything.com/work/13513820/94034127

60Nicole_VanK
Feb 13, 2013, 1:48 am

> 59: Done.

61Nicole_VanK
Feb 13, 2013, 1:56 am

> 58: nos 2, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 12 done. The others are playing hard to get.

62r.orrison
Feb 13, 2013, 2:45 am

64jasbro
Feb 13, 2013, 1:24 pm

> 63: Done; thank you!

652wonderY
Feb 13, 2013, 1:50 pm

Gah! I'm so frustrated. I can't seperate Jane Fearnley-Whittingstall from her son's page. His name is Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall.

http://www.librarything.com/author/fearnleywhittingstal&recalculate=1&ch...

I've changed the author name for all of her titles, and recalculated several times. What am I missing, please?
They don't seem to even be co-authors of any of their books.

Is this something that needs time? It never has before when I've done similar operations.
Thanks.

66Nicole_VanK
Feb 13, 2013, 1:53 pm

The name is simply too long for the system to handle. That page is "fearnleywhittingstal" - so anybody sharing that name will show up on it. Splitting the page is the best we can do.

672wonderY
Edited: Feb 13, 2013, 1:58 pm

Oh. Too bad. I was hoping that was an out-dated reason.

68Nicole_VanK
Feb 13, 2013, 2:04 pm

Alas.

70europhile
Feb 13, 2013, 4:18 pm

> 69: Done.

71vancouverdeb
Edited: Feb 13, 2013, 4:36 pm

Please combine One book has the word " The " at the start of the title, which it should, the other does not. Same book, thanks!

http://www.librarything.com/work/346194
http://www.librarything.com/work/book/93851622

Thanks so much in advance!

72leselotte
Feb 13, 2013, 4:38 pm

>70 europhile: Thanks :)

73omargosh
Feb 13, 2013, 8:45 pm

> 71 Done.

74prosfilaes
Feb 14, 2013, 5:28 am

Can someone combine http://www.librarything.com/author/merrittabrahamgrace and http://www.librarything.com/author/merritta ? It seems to think they are combined, yet I go to the first and not the second from my book page http://www.librarything.com/work/2485882/details/82697501

75JerryMmm
Feb 14, 2013, 5:41 am

wonder if http://www.librarything.com/author/merritabraham is the same as well ?

76prosfilaes
Feb 14, 2013, 6:38 am

The Ship of Ishtar is certainly one of his.

77jasbro
Feb 14, 2013, 11:25 am

> 74-76: Done, but would benefit from review & clean-up. Thank you!

78AndreasJ
Feb 14, 2013, 4:02 pm

The primary picture on the A. Merrit page appears to belong to one Allison Merritt, not to the author of The Moon Pool. I'd label it as erroneous if I knew how to.

79Nicole_VanK
Feb 14, 2013, 4:18 pm

> 78: Done. And now to split that A. Merritt page properly and alias the various A. Merritts properly.

80prosfilaes
Feb 14, 2013, 4:34 pm

Why were a bunch of the Abraham Merritt's works moved from his split on that page to unknown? He is the early 20th century pulp fantasy writer on that page.

81jasbro
Feb 14, 2013, 4:37 pm

> 80: I think it defaults that way upon certain combinations. I've had it happen before -- right after matching works from unknown to the correct, disambiguated Author. (At least I didn't do it deliberately, which gives some comfort ... .)

82Nicole_VanK
Feb 14, 2013, 4:38 pm

I guess several people working on that page simultaneously confused things (That's why I temporarily bowed out).

83prosfilaes
Feb 14, 2013, 4:46 pm

Okay. I see nothing on that page that's not Abraham Grace Merritt, but I left the fantasy magazine out as more of a corporate name. It doesn't strike me as a high value/work ratio to keep it split.

84jasbro
Edited: Feb 14, 2013, 4:51 pm

> 82: Oops! Sorry if that was me. You're doing good -- have at it, and thanks!

85MarthaJeanne
Edited: Feb 14, 2013, 4:56 pm

When I got there it was unsplit with CK that at least partially was for Allison.

86Nicole_VanK
Feb 14, 2013, 4:57 pm

> 83: Yeah, possibly. But since there are other authors called A(***) Merritt - we've already seen confusion with Allison Merritt today - aliasing is probably better than combining, even if there's currently only one author on the A. Merritt page. (Just my view).

> 84: No worries. MarthaJeanne was there too by the way. It got confusing, that's all.

87leselotte
Feb 16, 2013, 2:37 pm

Could someone please have a look at this:

http://www.librarything.com/work/8718661/editions

I sepearated an edition of Grimm's fairy tales that definitely doesn't belong there, but don't dare to touch this any further. There are 5 disambiguation notices, probably all by the same person, in Dutch. All editions are without ISBN, though. I'm not up to checking every entry right now, so please, anyone who'd like some work, have a go :)
Thanks!

88JerryMmm
Edited: Feb 17, 2013, 4:52 am

The person who wrote the disambiguation notices doesn't want this work combined with works that don't have clear illustrators and translators/adaptors.
i'm not sure if that's the criteria for keeping works separate..

There are a dozen or more other versions on LT, abridged, illustrated, whatever. Someone with more experience with grimm in particular and fairytales in general will have to look at these...

89Nicole_VanK
Feb 17, 2013, 4:54 am

In theory I agree with that person that one shouldn't combine adaptations with the original, or different adaptations with each other. But since these are non-ISBN versions, attributed to Grimm (or to no author at all), they will probably sooner or later draw in quite different versions too. So in fact, whatever the disambiguation notices say, these are unidentifiable versions.

90leselotte
Feb 17, 2013, 10:33 am

> 88, 89 Would it be okay if I deleted the disambiguation notices, seperated these non-identifiable editions (and looked whether I couldn't find corresponding editions after all), added notices for the other, identifiable, editions of the Bremen Town Musicians, to clean this up, or shall I just leave it? (Sorry for this run-on sentence!) Or is deleting someone else's disamb. notices a big No-No?

91Nicole_VanK
Feb 17, 2013, 11:51 am

I say ignore them. They are contradictory as is. Plus there are such titles involved as "The Bremen Town Musicians (3 copies separate)" - no author, no ISBN. Okay, let's suppose one of thos bits of info might be correct for one of them, that still doesn't mean it's necessarily correct for the other two.

92leselotte
Feb 17, 2013, 12:34 pm

Okay, I'll leave it, then, thanks, Matt!
The only thing that irritates me is that those entries all appear on Lisbeth Zwergers author page; shouldn't they be included with Jacob Grimm?

93Nicole_VanK
Feb 17, 2013, 2:55 pm

Ah, no, I meant ignore those disambiguation notices...

95jasbro
Edited: Feb 17, 2013, 4:48 pm

> 94: Done. Thank you!

(I assume 87-93 are getting done too?)

96MarthaJeanne
Feb 17, 2013, 5:03 pm

Thank you. It is frustrating at the end of a long separation and recombing job when a few 0 copies don't want to go where they belong.

97jasbro
Feb 17, 2013, 10:49 pm

> 96: Glad if I can help, thanks to @brightcopy!

98kristincedar
Feb 18, 2013, 11:41 pm

I may have oops'ed.

you correctly linked http://www.librarything.com/work/13064340 to http://www.librarything.com/work/12929975 on my insistence, but rather the correct link should be to this one:
http://www.librarything.com/work/13514236

I am really sorry, and should be more careful, but you guys are doing one heck of a job, and thank you!

99Nicole_VanK
Feb 19, 2013, 1:34 am

> 98: It seems to me the "Sugarland"s and the "Litterbug"s are properly separated. Am I missing something?

100MarthaJeanne
Edited: Feb 19, 2013, 2:14 am

Properly separated, yes, but something wierd is going on. Sugarland says it has 1 review, but there is none. Litterbug claims none, but there it is. May need to sit a day.

Kristincedar, you may want to change your title to use something other than ':', as the autocombiner ignores anything after a colon. Or, even better, start your title with the part that is different.

102Nicole_VanK
Feb 19, 2013, 5:56 am

> 101: Done.

104jasbro
Feb 19, 2013, 8:35 pm

> 103: Done.

105gennyt
Feb 20, 2013, 1:45 pm

Help! I'm trying to catalogue my omnibus editions of Anthony Powell's sequence of novellas, A Dance to the Music of Time.
This consists of 12 works, published separately, but also available (among other options) in a set of four omnibus editions each containing three novellas. If I understand the terminology correctly, each of these omnibus versions also counts as a work.

I recently catalogued the first of these four omnibus works:
http://www.librarything.com/work/3529429/book/93154723 A Dance to the Music of Time: First movement, spring - isbn 9780099436683

Today I have tried to catalogue the second one:
A Dance to the Music of Time: Second movement, summer - isbn 074932404X -
but somehow this seems to have been combined with the first movement as it is displaying as a version of the 'First movement' and showing the wrong cover options and wrong omnibus volume in the series field.

See: http://www.librarything.com/work/3529429/details/94280222

I'm not familiar enough with combining/separating to work out what is going on here. Can anyone fix this or tell me how to do so?

I have previously catalogued the 3rd volume with no problem:
http://www.librarything.com/work/659255

107MarthaJeanne
Feb 20, 2013, 2:32 pm

105>I may have fixed your problem. (It's hard to tell with provate libraries.)

Books like this are likely to auto combine into the wrong work, because the autocombiner ignores everything after the ':'

108gennyt
Feb 20, 2013, 2:40 pm

#107 Thanks for responding. I've just made my library public again - I'd forgotten I'd switched it to private just recently but temporarily.

It seems to be fixed now, thanks.

Is there something straightforward that I could have done myself to fix this? Or is it easier to post here in similar circumstances and ask for help from the more experienced?

I can see how books like this easily get into a muddle with combining.

109MarthaJeanne
Edited: Feb 20, 2013, 2:50 pm

108> These aren't complicated to do, just picky. You have to search through the editions (on the editions page) until you find the one(s) that don't belong. This was fairly good - I found your edition and a few wrong 0 copy editions.

When you have found one, you click on separate. Then you confirm it. Then you need to recombine the one you separated out into the right work. (I always open the separated edition in a new tab, and use the old tab to reopen the old work, and check if there is more to do.) Usually the right work will show up on the edition page.

If this is too picky for you and/or if you can't recombine, post here. I often have trouble with 0 copy editions, so I post them here.

Personally, I would start with books with fewer editions, as it can be hard to catch the one different one with a long list like this of similar titles.

110gennyt
Feb 20, 2013, 3:00 pm

Thanks for the help and the info. Next time I get a problem I'll see whether it is one I feel I can tackle! I'll favourite your post as a reminder...

111jjwilson61
Feb 20, 2013, 3:56 pm

108, 109> Or you could change the colon in the title to a dash or remove it entirely.

112MarthaJeanne
Feb 20, 2013, 4:00 pm

111>That is the best way if you enter manually, and it is better to chose one like that if you have a choice (from certain sources). But when you enter from a source using the colon you will have been autocombined before you made the change. Now both your changed copy and a 0 copy edition are in the wrong work.

113ringman
Feb 20, 2013, 6:50 pm

These books are the same. I think I could combine them but I am not sure which author they should end up under. Originally published under the name Mark Phillips, but this is a pseudonym for Randall Garrett and Laurence Janifer.

http://www.librarything.com/work/8181827
http://www.librarything.com/work/1664106

114lturpin42
Feb 20, 2013, 8:59 pm

116MarthaJeanne
Edited: Feb 21, 2013, 1:01 am

113> Done. It chose Mark Phillips and I made sure the others showed up under other authors.

114> Done

115> I'm working from the bottom, but have to leave soon for the airport.

Deadeye is 0 copy, no author.
http://www.librarything.com/work/13048561

http://www.librarything.com/work/13085881
Combined, but there is an edition in there that says Vol 1. Needs more checking.

Got to go.

117libraryman_76021
Edited: Feb 21, 2013, 2:55 am

Please combine the following works:

Skyfall by Sam Mendes
http://www.librarything.com/work/13240554
http://www.librarything.com/work/13525927

118Nicole_VanK
Feb 21, 2013, 3:06 am

> 117: Done.

120Nicole_VanK
Feb 21, 2013, 7:50 am

> 119: Done.

121jasbro
Feb 21, 2013, 7:56 am

> #106: Done.

122krazy4katz
Feb 21, 2013, 10:58 pm

Hi,

Any suggestions on what to do with this?
http://www.librarything.com/work/13311773/editions

Thanks,

k4k

123MarthaJeanne
Edited: Feb 22, 2013, 2:08 am

122> I don't see a problem straight off.

Edited to add: Someone has posted the same not-really-a-review to two different accounts, but that isn't a combining problem.

124Nicole_VanK
Feb 22, 2013, 2:06 am

Neither do I.

126Nicole_VanK
Feb 22, 2013, 5:53 am

> 125: Done.

127krazy4katz
Edited: Feb 22, 2013, 8:01 pm

>123 MarthaJeanne:, 124

It was a copy of Hidden Jewel with a cover of Eat, Pray, Love. It seems as though someone took care of it somehow. ;-)

128omargosh
Feb 23, 2013, 5:17 am

>127 krazy4katz:
The Eat Pray Love cover is still showing up for that book in the "Covers from Amazon" section, since there appears to be, I think, a reuse issue with ISBN 0747586640. Since there are two users apparently using that ISBN for Hidden Jewel, I'm not going to separate out that edition (I sometimes do that if the bad ISBN editions are zero-copies). But it's cases like these where it would be nice to be able to flag Amazon covers.

129Nicole_VanK
Feb 23, 2013, 5:54 am

But it's cases like these where it would be nice to be able to flag Amazon covers.

Indeed.

130supersidvicious
Feb 23, 2013, 11:19 am

131omargosh
Feb 23, 2013, 1:04 pm

> 130
Seems like a pretty big project for this thread (not saying you shouldn't have mentioned it or that somebody shouldn't take it up). I think most of those results are from Pirrip's catalog, and it's already been listed in the Singleton Libraries Project.

132Nicole_VanK
Feb 23, 2013, 1:08 pm

Also: we can try - but for several of those I can't find a counterpart.

133guurtjesboekenkast
Feb 23, 2013, 5:47 pm

Please combine:

http://www.librarything.com/work/13555660 (zero copies)

with:

http://www.librarything.com/work/47291

Many thanks in advance

134guurtjesboekenkast
Feb 23, 2013, 5:49 pm

Please combine:

http://www.librarything.com/work/13555671 (zero copies)

with:

http://www.librarything.com/work/55065

Many thanks in advance

135omargosh
Feb 23, 2013, 6:03 pm

> 133 & 134
Done.

137jasbro
Feb 23, 2013, 10:42 pm

> 136: Done, but it may need your further clean-up help. Also, it look slike "Colour Books" (or "Color Books," as the case may be) may be a nice, big Series -- in need of some nice big help to document. Thougts? Suggestions? Insight? Thank you!

138MarthaJeanne
Feb 24, 2013, 3:07 am

If someone creates the series it should probably be called 'Hoikusha Colo(u)r Book Series' to keep it separate from other series with similar names.

139liao
Feb 25, 2013, 12:49 am

>137 jasbro: thank you for your help. I'm open to any suggestions on how to document it. I haven't found any libraries that have the complete series or more than a handful, actually.

>138 MarthaJeanne: I thought about calling it "Hoikusha Color Book Series" but followed the Library of Catalog naming which is simply "Color Book." I'm open to suggestions, though.

141henkl
Feb 25, 2013, 1:54 am

>140 liao:: Done.

142MarthaJeanne
Edited: Feb 25, 2013, 4:12 am

139> http://www.worldcat.org/search?q=se%3A%22Color+books%22&qt=results_page

There are so many different series mixed in here. If the series page is to be useful it needs to be differentiated.

(Can't check LoC right now.)

143MerryMary
Feb 25, 2013, 11:09 pm

The author Jeffrey Allen is one of several with the same name. The author I am working on wrote Stay At Home Dead, Popped Off, and Father Knows Death.

It turns out "Jeffrey Allen" is a pen name for Jeff Shelby. I do not know how to arrange this properly. Thank you so much for any help you can give.

144MarthaJeanne
Edited: Feb 26, 2013, 2:33 am

This kind of thing is done on the disambiguation page. There I marked the two books you named as being by Jeffrey Allen (3). Then (on a side page there) I aliased Jeffrey Allen (3) to Jeff Shelby.

If any of the other unclaimed books there are also by him you can easily change them.

You can also work on CK both on the Jeffrey Allen (3) page and on the Jeff Shelby page.

145henkl
Edited: Feb 26, 2013, 4:01 am

I assigned Instant interviews to Jeffrey Allen (4). Then I aliased Jeffrey Allen (4) to Jeffrey G. Allen.

146MerryMary
Feb 26, 2013, 7:08 am

Thank you very much. I always appreciate your expert help.

147jasbro
Feb 26, 2013, 9:29 am

> 136-139 & 142: Why did we make "Color Book" a Publishers Series, instead of a regular Series? Yes, it looks like they're all from the same publisher (Hoikusha?), but they appear to be intentionally coordinated such that, taken together, they also could be thought of as a single, larger, integrated Work. Just curious ... . Thanks!

148Neverwithoutabook
Edited: Feb 27, 2013, 9:43 pm

I am hoping this is the right place to put this request. I recently added The Swiss Family Robinson by Johann Wyss and in trying to change to the appropriate cover, discovered this...
http://www.librarything.com/work/312701/covers/94512137
The title is right and the author, but the rest of the page is for an entirely different book series, "Children's Letters to God". Hope you can help. Thanks.

149Felagund
Feb 28, 2013, 12:46 am

>148 Neverwithoutabook:
I separated 2 editions of "The Swiss Family Robinson" that were lost in the middle of the "Children's Letters to God" work and combined them into the proper work by Wyss.

150Neverwithoutabook
Feb 28, 2013, 2:26 am

Thanks Felegund!

151prosfilaes
Feb 28, 2013, 5:16 am

Can someone join W. Douglas Newton and Douglas Newton (2)? I've got a biography establishing that they're the same person, 1885-1951, but I don't know how to connect them without combining the underlying names.

152Nicole_VanK
Feb 28, 2013, 5:28 am

> 151: Done.

153prosfilaes
Feb 28, 2013, 6:54 am

#152: Thanks.

http://www.librarything.com/work/13522518/editions needs to get blown up, as it's a bunch of different works under one title.

154MarthaJeanne
Feb 28, 2013, 7:49 am

One person owns all of them, it seems. I've done a bit, but I'm not really sure it's worth the effort.

156henkl
Feb 28, 2013, 9:02 am

157connie53
Feb 28, 2013, 1:46 pm

Please combine

Snatched by Karin Slaughter

http://www.librarything.nl/work/12573731

With

Kwijt by Karin Slaughter

http://www.librarything.nl/work/13571125/summary/94528346

158stortemelk
Feb 28, 2013, 2:05 pm

159connie53
Feb 28, 2013, 2:23 pm

I'm not really sure about this one

http://www.librarything.nl/work/11769643

This should be Thorn in My Side by Karin Slaughter

and I think it should be combined with this one.

http://www.librarything.nl/work/12231518/summary/94529389

but there seams to be a combination with

http://www.librarything.nl/work/11199271

I don't really know if Gevallen is an earlier edition of Doorn in mijn vlees

Or if there is an edition where the two are combined in one edition.

160henkl
Feb 28, 2013, 4:21 pm

>159 connie53:: ISBN 902347015X (Doorn in mijn vlees) had been combined with ISBN 9023467477 (which contains both Doorn in mijn vlees and Gevallen). I separated it out and combined it Doorn in mijn vlees.

161connie53
Feb 28, 2013, 4:27 pm

> 160. Thanks!!!!

162prosfilaes
Feb 28, 2013, 4:32 pm

#154: Someone finished the job then. I noticed it because it turned up on a list of works popular this month.

163SylviaC
Edited: Feb 28, 2013, 11:37 pm

EDIT: Forget it--the combination option finally came up for this one.

164Hibou8
Edited: Mar 2, 2013, 2:21 am

Please combine...
(Tove Jansson was the original author of the series, Lars Jansson took over the series at vol. 6, which is why they're both listed as authors)

#1
Moomin Comic Book vol. 6
http://www.librarything.com/work/11243249
http://www.librarything.com/work/4435490

#2
Moomin Comic Book vol. 7
http://www.librarything.com/work/7721898
http://www.librarything.com/work/12896479

#3
Moomin Comic Book vol. 9
http://www.librarything.com/work/4435590
http://www.librarything.com/work/12936325

#4
Moomin Comic Book vol. 12
http://www.librarything.com/work/11781917
http://www.librarything.com/work/4435599

#5
Moomin Comic Book vol. 13
http://www.librarything.com/work/4435602
http://www.librarything.com/work/11675755

165Jarandel
Mar 2, 2013, 10:30 am

>164 Hibou8: Done I think, some other items in the series may still be in need of similar combining from what I see but as I don't read the language(s) better wait for a formal request from someone who does.

168Jarandel
Mar 3, 2013, 8:01 pm

169Nickelini
Mar 3, 2013, 9:32 pm

#168 - thanks!

170JerryMmm
Mar 4, 2013, 8:10 am

#166 Series can be different in different languages. Sometimes the translations haven't caught up yet, or there is a different order.
If you're absolutely sure 2 series are the same, you can edit the CK series yourself. Sometimes there are different languages involved, so you'll have to change the language of the CK to edit it.

171MarthaJeanne
Mar 4, 2013, 8:20 am

And the series needs to continue to be in the CK of every language that has it now, as the personal series page depends on the language site.

172connie53
Mar 5, 2013, 10:38 am

please combine

Der Beobachter by Charlotte Link
http://www.librarything.nl/work/12008774/summary

with

De toeschouwer by Charlotte Link

http://www.librarything.nl/work/13579115/summary/94674096

173Jarandel
Mar 5, 2013, 11:20 am

174connie53
Mar 5, 2013, 11:31 am

Thanks!!

175bunnygirl
Mar 5, 2013, 5:01 pm

Have separated the scrapbooking The Me Book from the children's series book The Me Book but can't get the scrapping book together again:

http://www.librarything.com/work/13589148
http://www.librarything.com/work/13589152
http://www.librarything.com/work/13589153
http://www.librarything.com/work/13589155

176MarthaJeanne
Edited: Mar 5, 2013, 5:15 pm

I've done those - all with ISBNs. There is still a non-ISBN copy on the loose http://www.librarything.com/work/9027033 that is probably the same book, but I'm not sure.

177bunnygirl
Mar 5, 2013, 5:45 pm

Thanks. It's been a while since I've done any heavy combining and I couldn't seem to get it to work right.

178henkl
Mar 5, 2013, 6:01 pm

>176 MarthaJeanne:: Same publisher, same number of pages, same year; for me that was enough to combine them.

179Aninja
Mar 5, 2013, 10:35 pm

Will someone help with combining:
http://www.librarything.com/work/12877938/editions
http://www.librarything.com/work/13589720/workdetails/94696955

Same work, different languages.
I don't know how to combine these "pamphlets" as they have no author or isbn. I may not be the most important combining job in the world, but at least it's a challenge...

180Nicole_VanK
Mar 6, 2013, 1:53 am

> 179: Done.

181MarthaJeanne
Mar 6, 2013, 2:14 am

178> It was getting late last night. I'd gotten as far as 'the owner has it in a scrapbooking collection', but my mind was turning off.

183Jarandel
Mar 6, 2013, 11:28 am

> 182 Done.

184Aninja
Edited: Mar 6, 2013, 2:59 pm

180 > Thank you :)

185Jarandel
Edited: Mar 11, 2013, 12:24 pm

A question :

I see editions of some classics described in their titles by the publisher as "Designed to be read as a modern novel" and wondered what it entailed, exactly ?

Should they be treated as abridgments rather that combined with the main work ?

186jasbro
Edited: Mar 11, 2013, 12:15 pm

> 185: FWIW, searching LT for the string "Designed to be Read as a Modern Novel," then separating and recombining records with the phrase in their Titles, discloses thew following six editions of historic Works:

-- Charles Reade, The Cloister And The Hearth, http://www.librarything.com/work/13607363
-- Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote, http://www.librarything.com/work/7983073
-- George Borrow, Lavengro and the Romany Rye, http://www.librarything.com/work/13607457
-- Victor Hugo, Les Miserables, http://www.librarything.com/work/7502835
-- George Eliot, Romola, http://www.librarything.com/work/13607377
-- Leo Tolstoy, War and Peace, http://www.librarything.com/work/13607416

Additionally, I note the following:

* Don Quixote appears to be "by Richard Emery Roberts";
* one copy of Les Miserables is entered with "Book League of America" as part of its title; and
* five copies of Romola are entered with "Blue Book Series" as part of their titles.

The first two notes make me think "Designed to be Read as a Modern Novel" connotes adaptations or abridged editions, which should remain separated as distinct Works. Does this information shed light @Jarandel's question for anybody else? Thank you!

187MissWatson
Mar 11, 2013, 1:30 pm

Leo N. Tolstoj, War and Peace

http://www.librarything.com/work/995/book/94442779
http://www.librarything.com/work/995/book/94442857

Could you please take a look at these works which LT counts as duplicates? Shouldn't it be possible two enter separate volumes separately, if they have different ISBNs? Volume 1 is 375632 152 1, volume 2 is 375632 153 X. Given the huge number of editions, I would rather not try to rectify this myself, I haven't been on LT long enough to feel safe with that. Thanks!

188MarthaJeanne
Edited: Mar 11, 2013, 7:22 pm

Yes, of course, neither should be in that work, but sometimes autocombining gets it wrong. I'll see if I can find those two editions.

http://www.librarything.com/work/13608816 is now vol 1.
I can't find vol 2 right now, there are lots more in there that ought to be separated out, but my connection is too slow for this one tonight.

189tjsjohanna
Mar 11, 2013, 8:32 pm

>186 jasbro: - in doing some research it looks like they are regular editions - book league of america published a bunch of classics as part of a book club and they were advertised as unabridged. All the editions I found on Worldcat with the phrase "designed to be read as a modern novel" were all pretty lengthy with no mention of abridgement.

190jasbro
Edited: Mar 11, 2013, 10:34 pm

> 187, 188: Both of @MissWatson's War and Peace volumes are now separated from the main Work, at http://www.librarything.com/work/13608816 and http://www.librarything.com/work/13609219 respetively, ready to recombine with applicable separate volumes. Please let us know if you need further help.

> 189: In that case, we probably need to recombine them back into the main Works -- DONE. Thanks for your research, @tjsjohanna!

191MissWatson
Edited: Mar 12, 2013, 7:46 am

>190 jasbro:: Thanks. Turns out I'm not entirely sure how to proceed next. When I go to the works and click on editions, I see the second volume and a work with more than 14,000 copies. Will anything irreparable happen if I click combine/separate potentials? Or will I see other options? (I don't want to create more work for you guys!)

192Jarandel
Edited: Mar 12, 2013, 9:06 am

>187 MissWatson:,188,190,191 Combined your vol. 1 and 2 with the main vol. 1/2 and 2/2.

>191 MissWatson: Nothing bad will happen when clicking on combine/separate potentials, it will just show you the options the system is currently aware of, but they may not be the right ones due to ambiguous titles or ratty ISBNs, and an option that is correct can nonetheless sometime not be displayed/offered.

194Jarandel
Mar 12, 2013, 10:19 am

195Hibou8
Mar 12, 2013, 4:45 pm

Please combine...

The compleat martini cook book
http://www.librarything.com/work/8691927
http://www.librarything.com/work/13072022

thanks!

196MissWatson
Edited: Mar 13, 2013, 7:24 am

>192 Jarandel: Thank you, thank you, thank you. I love LT!

197ABVR
Mar 13, 2013, 3:16 pm

Please combine . . .

Outer Space: Prospects for Man and Society
http://www.librarything.com/work/5931604
http://www.librarything.com/work/12990178

Thanks!

198jasbro
Edited: Mar 13, 2013, 3:46 pm

> 197: Done.

In other news ... HELP! Notwithstanding explicit disambiguation and Series notations (isn't that always the case?), somebody kindly combined Stephen R. Donaldson's The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant, the Unbeliever (Volumes 1-3) with The First and Second Chronicles of Thomas Covenant, the Unbeliever (Volumes 1-6). I don't have time to sort it out (again!) right now, so if somebody (else) gets to it first, I'll appreciate it. Thank you!

199Jarandel
Mar 13, 2013, 4:40 pm

>198 jasbro: Sorted, I think.

200Aninja
Mar 13, 2013, 8:16 pm

I wish to combine:
1# http://www.librarything.com/work/542152
#2 http://www.librarything.com/work/44626

The titles are different, but I base the combining on the note on edition in my personal copy of #2:
'Previously published as Japanese food and cooking', meaning they must be editions of the same work(?).
Also, the subtitle and author of the recipes in the book (Yasuo Fukuoka) are identical.

I need your opinion on whether these are considered the same work. I don't work as a librarian and only have the teachings from my LIS BSc to go on. If yes, will someone please help me combine them? :)

201ABVR
Mar 13, 2013, 10:24 pm

> 197, 198

Thanks!

202jasbro
Mar 14, 2013, 2:23 am

> 199, 201: Thank you!

> 200: Done.

And, with that, this thread is now CLOSED. Please continue our discussions at Combining/Separating (Please Fix This Book!) Request Thread #55 -- http://www.librarything.com/topic/151424 . Thank you!