Combining/Separating (Please Fix This Book!) Request Thread #55

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Combining/Separating (Please Fix This Book!) Request Thread #55

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1jasbro
Edited: Mar 14, 2013, 2:22 am

**Please read as there have been modifications**
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This thread is for LT’ers or thingamabrarians, or members, or their designees, to post combining or separating problems with their books.

** If a book has been combined with a book that is extremely different from the original.
** If a book won’t combine with the other books just like it.
** There is a problem with the entry & it is just too overwhelming to deal with.

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WHEN YOU POST:

Give us the TITLE & author, plus any other information you think we might need & please NUMBER them if you post more than one.

Example:
..Please combine:

#1: The story of the life of you
http://www.librarything.com/work/XXXXXX
http://www.librarything.com/work/YYYYYYYY

#2: The story of the life of everyone else
http://www.librarything.com/work/WWWWW
http://www.librarything.com/work/ZZZZZZZZ

** Please do not give us search pages or author pages.
Give us concrete & specific works to be combined, not groups of possibles, unless you have questions. Series pages can be helpful.

** You can ask us to look at a set of works to ask our opinions or ask if someone with a specific language or subject knowledge look at your request, but please be brief.

** Make your request easy for yourself & for the combiners who will help you.

Then you can just wait, “and someone will be with you shortly.”
Please, keep in mind this work is done by volunteers, not LT staff.

*** If you number multiple requests, it makes it easier if someone can only work on part of a request.

*** If you edit your post to add new items to be combined, please indicate that they are new by preceding with “ETA:” or “Edit:”.

*** Also, please indicate when a request has been "DONE".
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Tim’s Guidelines for Proper Etiquette for contacting members about their book records:

“For this topic, I still feel strongly that I’d like to consider it bad form. Many others agree with me. But a few think I’m dictating and are angry about that. So, fine. Let’s just write some guidelines up. I propose that the guidelines be something along the lines of:

* Remember that LibraryThing is used for many different reasons. The way you use and enjoy the site is not necessarily the way others do.
* Be sensitive to how the member is using LibraryThing. Approach members who show no interest in the social side more cautiously.
* Try to provide helpful information and ask questions rather than dictating.
* If the user indicates displeasure at the request, let it drop.
* When in doubt, raise the issue in the Combiners! group before sending a message.”

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Skittles’ note: I would like to add that we should ALWAYS use private comment when we absolutely must contact a LT’er, even when their response isn’t private.
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Dr Mike’s (aka theapparatus) note:

If both works that need to be combine have more than 200 records, please post your request in this thread:

http://www.librarything.com/topic/95602

You need staff intervention to handle that request.
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When this thread reaches approximately 200 posts, DO NOT POST HERE, but go to thread #56. This thread will be easier to handle if we keep it under 200 (faster loading). Please copy any notes or instructions to the new thread. Thank you.

Feel free to add comments &/or suggestions ... not just “challenges.”

** There is also a Combiner’s Group Information, FAQ & Discussion Thread #2 at: http://www.librarything.com/topic/57164 . That thread is for combining information, discussion in general, not for problems ... .

** The wiki page is here: http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/Book_combining

Addendum by AnnieMod: We will help no matter what, it just makes it faster if we have all the information as described above.

3henkl
Mar 15, 2013, 4:46 am

4MarthaJeanne
Mar 15, 2013, 4:50 am

Based on the cover picture I will conbine it with http://www.librarything.com/work/12010102

5jasbro
Edited: Mar 15, 2013, 7:51 am

> 4: I originally added the DA notices for these two, to distinguish betwen editions having the additional piece, "Screwtape Proposes a Toast," and those which include only the original letters. I'm glad to discuss whether this difference is enough to warrant two LT Works, but personally would prefer to keep them separate. Thank you!

6MarthaJeanne
Mar 15, 2013, 12:25 pm

I went through and changed the Scandanavian ones I could tell over, but several have no ISBN, and even one of the ISBNs is probably without.

7TheBookSavoury
Mar 15, 2013, 5:04 pm

isbn 0685785246 is listed for The Fairy's Gift via an LT search.

However, the isbn 0846702592 is the one listed on the copyright page of the book.

However, that isbn is shown connected to The Rhyming Rainbow by Cicely Mary Barker, from the same publisher.

These are two distinct books and the isbn was either used twice or is incorrect for The Rhyming Rainbow.

8MarthaJeanne
Edited: Mar 15, 2013, 6:10 pm

WorldCat gives three titles by Cicely Mary Barker for that second isbn.

The third being The Lord of the Rushie River

LT has three isbns for The fairy's gift. 0685785246 is listed in Amazon.com (as well as 0216903866), the other two in WorldCat. (0216903866 and 0846702592) as there seem to be both British and US copies, and both hardback and paper, it seems likely that at least 3 isbns were used. That some were reused is also possible.

9leselotte
Mar 16, 2013, 7:13 am

Please combine:

http://www.librarything.com/work/2041594
http://www.librarything.com/work/13621251

Please excuse the mess over there (Schwab); I'm still in the process of cleaning up, but it'll take a few more days!

10henkl
Mar 16, 2013, 8:04 am

12r.orrison
Mar 18, 2013, 9:20 am

11: Done

13MarthaJeanne
Mar 18, 2013, 2:12 pm

Thank you.

14Jarandel
Edited: Mar 19, 2013, 9:19 am

This message has been deleted by its author.

16MarthaJeanne
Edited: Mar 20, 2013, 4:15 pm

15> done

I also did some work on editing the division on http://www.librarything.com/author/joycejames. There is more to do by someone more informed than I am. (Also oriental script readers needed. At least I think that is what it is. My computer just gives boxes with 4 letters or numbers.)

18henkl
Mar 22, 2013, 6:49 pm

19MarthaJeanne
Mar 23, 2013, 5:38 am

18> Did they finally both show on the author page, or did you use the special method?

20MissWatson
Mar 23, 2013, 5:39 pm

Please separate

Les mohicans de Paris tome 1 (ISBN 9782070751914)
http://www.librarything.com/work/1957385/editions/95221314

from

Les mohicans de Paris tome 2 (ISBN 9782070751921)
http://www.librarything.com/work/1957385/book/95221461

Thank you very much!

21Nicole_VanK
Mar 23, 2013, 5:43 pm

> 20: Done.

22connie53
Mar 25, 2013, 9:24 am

Please combine

Nyphron Rising by Michael J. Sullivan

http://www.librarything.nl/work/8539627/summary

with

De opkomst van Nyphron by Michael J. Sullivan

http://www.librarything.nl/work/13649437/summary/95258647

23Nicole_VanK
Mar 25, 2013, 9:39 am

> 22: Done.

24MarthaJeanne
Mar 26, 2013, 5:10 pm

http://www.librarything.com/author/cooperguy

Most of these books are by the same author. But I strongly doubt that the World Mythology contributer is the same person. (I suspect it may be Guy H Cooper, but am not sure, and he is not an LT author.) It seems we cannot split when the only different author is a contributor. Or can anyone else make it work?

25europhile
Mar 26, 2013, 5:49 pm

It seems to have worked for me with the contributor aliased to Guy L Cooper.

26Collectorator
Edited: Mar 27, 2013, 12:40 am

This member has been suspended from the site.

27europhile
Mar 27, 2013, 1:32 am

I see what you mean, They should look better now.

28Nicole_VanK
Mar 27, 2013, 3:14 am

> 26: Probably somebody lumped all kinds of adaptations. I'm not familiar enough to attempt separating, but did set all those other authors to "secondary, some editions".

29MarthaJeanne
Mar 27, 2013, 5:57 am

25> Did you find some reason to believe that it is Guy L. Cooper? That seemed unlikely to me.

30henkl
Mar 27, 2013, 8:14 am

According to the table of contents of World Mythology he contributed a chapter about North America, so I have a strong suspicion he is indeed Guy H. Cooper.

31shmjay
Mar 27, 2013, 4:16 pm

322wonderY
Mar 27, 2013, 4:22 pm

Because of the S. J.

I edited, and it's now there.

33brigneti
Mar 28, 2013, 10:27 pm

Please combine if possible http://www.librarything.com/work/13498639 (author not listed) and http://www.librarything.com/work/12363348
thanks!

34jasbro
Mar 28, 2013, 11:20 pm

> 33: Done, I think.

35pengvini
Mar 30, 2013, 8:32 am

Please combine:
http://www.librarything.com/work/3535819
http://www.librarything.com/work/4577427

The correct spelling for the author's surname is:
Vladislavić

Thanks!

36Nicole_VanK
Mar 30, 2013, 8:36 am

> 35: Done.

38.Monkey.
Mar 30, 2013, 7:31 pm

40.Monkey.
Mar 31, 2013, 5:26 am

>39 StanSmith108: The second one you link, the title ends with "& Great"; is this an error? Or is there meant to be more of an additional title and the book is an omnibus? If it has more than that one story in it, it shouldn't be combined with the other title...

41StanSmith108
Mar 31, 2013, 5:35 am

it is an error - it is the beginning of the sub-title of the book which is: "and great was the fall thereof".

43MarthaJeanne
Edited: Mar 31, 2013, 5:48 am

42> These are different volumes. I've added canonical titles to make that clear.

44StanSmith108
Edited: Mar 31, 2013, 5:53 am

I think you will find they are both volume one. If not, here are the references for volumes two and three, the work should be combined with one of the three.
http://www.librarything.com/work/13690807
http://www.librarything.com/work/13690961

45MarthaJeanne
Edited: Mar 31, 2013, 5:54 am

Then please change your record. http://www.librarything.com/work/13690807/editions clearly says Volume 2.

The work for vol 3 has no copies.

46StanSmith108
Mar 31, 2013, 6:15 am

How odd! I have added vol 3 to my library, it appears on my 'your books' page - yet it displays "0 members". Do you know how I can fix this?

47MarthaJeanne
Mar 31, 2013, 6:28 am

Wait a day. I didn't see the vol numbers at the beginning of trying to combine (They were too far to the end of the title to show where I was working.) Sometimes working on the same thing a few times can get the servers out of sync for that work. They'll catch up with themselves.

48AnnieMod
Mar 31, 2013, 6:41 am

All volumes should look fine now and are under the correct split author (one of them was hiding under the non-assigned)

49Nicole_VanK
Mar 31, 2013, 6:42 am

> 39-41: Okay then. Done.

51AnnieMod
Mar 31, 2013, 6:51 am

>50 StanSmith108:

I've got two of those together, someone else beat me to the third one

53henkl
Mar 31, 2013, 4:03 pm

>52 StanSmith108:: Done (by BarkingMatt).

54Nicole_VanK
Mar 31, 2013, 4:07 pm

Oops, sorry I forgot to check back in.

56Nicole_VanK
Apr 1, 2013, 2:28 am

> 55: Done.

57StanSmith108
Apr 1, 2013, 4:22 am

The following works are unique and should not be combined. Their titles are very similar and they are often confused.
http://www.librarything.com/work/13697715
http://www.librarything.com/work/108920
They are collections of letters, one was originally published in 1938 and one in 1988 and they have different editors. How can I stop them displaying as "potential work combinations" on each others 'editions' pages?

58Nicole_VanK
Apr 1, 2013, 4:25 am

I don't think you can actually stop them displaying as "potential work combinations", but you could leave your comment as a "disambiguation notice". It's not a guarantee, but most people won't disregard such notices.

60StanSmith108
Edited: Apr 1, 2013, 4:33 am

61Jarandel
Apr 1, 2013, 4:34 am

>57 StanSmith108: Disambiguation notices, and setting the editor of each as the first main author so they stand apart better on the T. E. Lawrence page ? There seems to be some mixing already, as at least one user has ISBN + cover of the Brown version, yet a David Garnett set as the editor in their individual catalog entry.

62Nicole_VanK
Apr 1, 2013, 4:56 am

> 59: Are you sure? "The letters..." sounds like it might be a different work than "Selected letters..."

63StanSmith108
Edited: Apr 1, 2013, 7:03 pm

>62 Nicole_VanK: yes, the title on the spine is "the letters..." and on the title page it is "Selected letters..."

64StanSmith108
Apr 1, 2013, 7:02 pm

>61 Jarandel: Thanks, I will try that. The entries for both works are really messed up. I have flagged the problem with the cover - (the Brown version is displaying as an option for the Garnett version). When I have time, I will keep working to try and separate/combine the various entries to tidy them up.

66jasbro
Apr 1, 2013, 11:20 pm

> 65: Done; thank you.

67sparemethecensor
Apr 2, 2013, 7:50 pm

Please combine the following:

http://www.librarything.com/work/444535
http://www.librarything.com/work/13480779

Thanks for this, and for all your hard work improving the site!

68AnnieMod
Apr 2, 2013, 7:52 pm

69sparemethecensor
Apr 2, 2013, 7:52 pm

Thanks!

70MarthaJeanne
Apr 3, 2013, 6:36 am

http://www.librarything.com/work/3689582
http://www.librarything.com/work/200178

Either these two should be combined or the second one should be divided by title. Any opinions?

712wonderY
Apr 3, 2013, 6:43 am

I would combine them. They all appear to be pointing to the same work.
http://archive.org/details/slangitsanalogue01farmuoft

72jasbro
Edited: Apr 3, 2013, 7:40 am

> 70, 71: WorldCat seems to relate the second item to an early 20th Century Work, alternately described as a "manuscript" or "periodical," reprinted in 3 (or 7) volumes in about 1974; see http://www.worldcat.org/title/slang-and-its-analogues/oclc/233687826/editions?re... . I don't know that there's a way to distinguish between the partial and/or complete Work, given what we see among Editions; or, if it was originally a periodical now reprinted in its entirety, whether it warrants separate Work entries at all. I'm inclined to combine them.

73henkl
Apr 3, 2013, 8:26 am

According to WorldCat the work was originally printed in seven volumes (for subscribers only) in the years 1890 - 1904. In 1905 an abridgment in one volume was published by Routledge, London.
In later years the complete work has been reprinted in seven, in three, and even in one volume (1970, Arno Press: "This edition reproduces four original pages on a single page of larger size.").
I would combine them, separating out the abridged edition, if it can be identified.

74MarthaJeanne
Apr 3, 2013, 8:29 am

I've combined them.

75connie53
Apr 3, 2013, 9:01 am

Please combine

The Dirty Streets of Heaven by Tad Williams

http://www.librarything.nl/work/12411335/summary

met

De Weg naar de Hemel by Tad Williams

http://www.librarything.nl/work/13706577/summary/96426464

Thanks

76guurtjesboekenkast
Apr 3, 2013, 10:48 am

Please combine:

De reunie by Simone van der Vlugt

http://www.librarything.com/work/13471148

and

http://www.librarything.com/work/13464193

both zero copies

with

De reünie by Simone van der Vlugt

http://www.librarything.com/work/2159806

Thanks in advance.

77guurtjesboekenkast
Apr 3, 2013, 10:48 am


Please combine:

Q & A Simone van der Vlugt by Simone van der Vlugt

http://www.librarything.com/work/6286360 zero copy

with

Q & A Simone van der Vlugt by Simone van der Vlugt

http://www.librarything.com/work/9933698

Thanks in advance

78henkl
Apr 3, 2013, 11:16 am

79al.vick
Apr 3, 2013, 12:54 pm

>75 connie53:

Done I think.

80connie53
Apr 3, 2013, 6:17 pm

Yes, I think so too. I'm no longer the only person owning that book! Thanks.

81al.vick
Apr 3, 2013, 11:16 pm

>80 connie53: Have you read it yet? I loved it! But then I like most of Tad's stuff.

82jasbro
Apr 4, 2013, 12:40 am

> 76: Done; thank you.

84connie53
Apr 4, 2013, 3:50 am

> 81: I just bought this book, so no I did not read it yet.

85Nicole_VanK
Apr 4, 2013, 4:05 am

> 83: Done.

86Yamanekotei
Apr 4, 2013, 10:44 am

Thank you, BarkingMatt.

I have another one.

To me, it looks like author name has been combined, but I'm not sure. If not, could you combime these?

http://www.librarything.com/author/hancockgraham
http://www.librarything.com/author/3779979805

Also his work.

http://www.librarything.com/work/100385
http://www.librarything.com/work/2067746 (Volume I)
http://www.librarything.com/work/2067748 (Volume II)

Thanks in advance!

87SimonW11
Apr 4, 2013, 1:13 pm

86> combined the author names.

It would not be appropriate to combine a one volume work with its parts so i have left those separate.

88jasbro
Apr 4, 2013, 3:51 pm

> 86: Added Work-to-Work connections to show Vols. I & II contained in the complete Work. Thanks!

89SimonW11
Apr 5, 2013, 3:40 am

88> doh!

90jasbro
Apr 5, 2013, 11:55 pm

> 89: a deer! :o)

91lturpin42
Apr 6, 2013, 7:35 pm

90> a female deer! ;-P

92jasbro
Apr 6, 2013, 11:27 pm

> 91: Ray!

94.Monkey.
Apr 7, 2013, 8:12 am

95Vivl
Edited: Apr 8, 2013, 4:33 am

I think I've royally messed a book up. :(

That book being: http://www.librarything.com/work/13724714/workdetails/96643438

I tried to combine my copy, poorly-titled by whomever it was imported from (Amazon.co.uk, I think), with existing, correctly-titled, editions. I assumed that since I was the only person with my poorly-titled version, the more correct version would take precedence and I'd end up with a nicely-titled book with good information. Unfortunately, my wrong title overwrote the better one. Panic stations! I tried to separate my version but accidentally separated a good one, which two readers had added. EEK! Tried to combine that back in but it had disappeared completely from the author and combine page. CALAMITY!

I did what I could do, which is separate my poorly-titled edition, correct the title and recombine the remaining editions,
but it used to say that four other people had this title in their libraries and now it only says two. I've lost an edition somewhere. :(

Author combine page is here: http://www.librarything.com/combine.php?author=blossom

I hope that all makes some sort of sense and is at all appropriate here.

And HELP!

96.Monkey.
Apr 8, 2013, 4:38 am

Vivi, you can edit your own book data. Combining the book doesn't change your book or any others, you'll always see your own data when you go to a work page, for any book that you have in your catalog; it hasn't overwritten anything. If you want the title (or anything else) changed, you have to go to your book, edit, and change whatever fields have wrong info in them.

The work is alright, no worries there. :)

97Nicole_VanK
Apr 8, 2013, 4:40 am

Better now? : http://www.librarything.com/work/13724714

No need to panic. There's always the helpers log (http://www.librarything.com/log_helpers.php) - for future reference : it's in "Zeitgeist".

Some of those books were taken from the author page because somebody attributes them to Joan Sauers instead of Blossom.

P.s.: On the work page you will always see any book as you listed it. It rarely means means your info took over.

98Vivl
Edited: Apr 8, 2013, 5:40 am

> 96 & 97

Thank you! I'll stop hyperventilating now.

Edited to add: I had to rush off as I was busted by my elderly mother for replying to this thread instead of helping her in the garden, hence my brief response. It takes some getting used to after Goodreads, this autonomy of data thing. I like it already, but keep forgetting! I see that what I should have done was not be lazy and hope combining editions would fix my bad data. Shall also take care to make sure I'm looking at the right listing when clicking that "separate" button.

Thank you especially, @BarkingMatt, for pointing me in the direction of the helper's log. I don't think I would have found that in the near future.

Now I need to nut out how to disambiguate Blossom Rogers, author of Under a Bridge and Under a Bridge II from Blossom the cat, author of Eat, Spray, Love. I'll howl for help somewhere appropriate if I get stuck.

99Vivl
Apr 8, 2013, 5:42 am

By George, I think I've got it!

100Nicole_VanK
Apr 8, 2013, 6:20 am

Huzzah. Congrats.

101rebeccanyc
Apr 8, 2013, 8:27 am

Recently I added this Modern Library edition of Guy de Maupassant's The Necklace and Other Tales:

http://www.librarything.com/work/13704859/book/96388628

I carefully separated it from the Dover thrift edition and wrote disambiguation notices to prevent their combination in the future.

But, try as I might, I can't get it to combine with the already existing work page for this Modern Library edition:

http://www.librarything.com/work/13704850

That is, neither of them lists the other as a possibility for combination.

Any help anyone can give would be gratefully received. I'm stumped!

102Collectorator
Apr 8, 2013, 8:39 am

This member has been suspended from the site.

103.Monkey.
Edited: Apr 8, 2013, 8:42 am

>101 rebeccanyc: It appears Collectorator has combined it.

ETA That was weird, I refreshed the page and it wasn't showing any new comments in the meantime, and it still wasn't showing #102 but showed mine as 103, and didn't show it until I refreshed again. Funky!

104rebeccanyc
Apr 8, 2013, 9:42 am

102 Thanks, Collectorator. That was speedy. The second one is it, and the first one is the pesky one that all versions seemed to be combined with until I separated out the Modern Library one. Not sure why I couldn't combine mine properly, but thank you.

105TnTexas
Apr 8, 2013, 10:32 pm

I think these two works need to be combined:

http://www.librarything.com/work/12329501
http://www.librarything.com/work/12331551

They're obviously the same work, but for some reason they don't show up as possible combinings for each other.

106Collectorator
Apr 8, 2013, 10:59 pm

This member has been suspended from the site.

107prosfilaes
Apr 9, 2013, 1:50 am

#101: The list of the stories would probably be useful, since that's not necessarily going to be unique to the Modern Library edition. Later editions by different printing houses, cheap rip-offs, them ripping others off, etc.

108rebeccanyc
Apr 9, 2013, 6:34 am

107 Where would be the best place to list the stories?

109SimonW11
Apr 9, 2013, 7:56 am

In work to work relationships

110prosfilaes
Apr 9, 2013, 8:37 am

In the disambiguation notice, since most of the stories don't have separate works.

111rebeccanyc
Edited: Apr 9, 2013, 8:45 am

Yes to 110; that's just what I was going to say after I read 109. I use work-to-work for collections of novels or novellas, trilogies, etc. And thank, will do.

112guurtjesboekenkast
Apr 9, 2013, 9:05 am

Please combine: The Blue Bicycle Vol. 1 by Deforges, Regine

http://www.librarything.com/work/11798405 (zero copy)

with

http://www.librarything.com/work/390078

Thanks in advance

113Moomin_Mama
Apr 9, 2013, 12:01 pm

I have separated Peter Pan and Wendy as retold by May Byron with the approval of the author:

http://www.librarything.com/work/book/96879537

and have found another that possibly matches, the problem being that, although the author is also May Byron, the book has been named as Peter Pan and Wendy by Anne Grah:

http://www.librarything.com/work/1606427/summary

I'm not sure if this is a simple naming issue or if versions by May Byron and Anne Grah have been mangled.

Would somebody be able to sort this out? The first book DEFINITELY needs to be kept separate from the original, it is a retelling by a different author that has been around for many years and the version that a lot of people are familiar with from childhood.

Many thanks in advance.

114MarthaJeanne
Edited: Apr 9, 2013, 12:51 pm

I separated the first edition from that and now we have a small wierd work http://www.librarything.com/work/13729504/editions and a larger work that makes sense. http://www.librarything.com/work/1606427/summary

The wierd one is an abridgement, illustrated by Anne Grah(ame Johnstone )

115Moomin_Mama
Apr 9, 2013, 1:51 pm

Thank you Martha Jeanne. Now I can't combine:

http://www.librarything.com/work/book/96879537

with:

http://www.librarything.com/work/1606427/summary

as one appears in J. M. Barrie's list of books, and one in May Byron's list, and is beyond my very limited abilities with LT cataloguing :)

116henkl
Apr 9, 2013, 2:15 pm

117MissWatson
Apr 9, 2013, 3:01 pm

I've run into a little trouble with the following titles. They have the same ISBN because they officially belong to a complete set of 12 volumes (Das erzählerische Werk), but I bought these separately and secondhand. Would it be okay to just leave them floating around without an ISBN? Because I own different editions of the other books contained in this set. Horribly convoluted, I know. :(

Thomas Mann
Erzählungen volume 2 (volume12 in the series)
http://www.librarything.com/work/edit/96905473?referpage=addbooks.php

Erzählungen volume 1 (volume 11 in the series)
http://www.librarything.com/work/13729904/edit/96905369

Thanks!

118.Monkey.
Apr 9, 2013, 3:21 pm

>117 MissWatson: If you want to catalog the individual volumes it'd be best to leave off the ISBN then, yes. :)

119jjwilson61
Apr 9, 2013, 4:02 pm

If the ISBN refers to the set as a whole then the individual volumes should not have their ISBNs filled in.

120MissWatson
Apr 9, 2013, 4:35 pm

<118, 119: Wilco. Thanks for the advice.

121jasbro
Edited: Apr 9, 2013, 10:48 pm

> 115: Done.

122Moomin_Mama
Apr 10, 2013, 12:04 pm

Thank you jasbro

123TnTexas
Apr 10, 2013, 4:05 pm

Thanks, Collectorator! (concerning 105 & 106)

Now could you (or someone else) combine the following? They're all the same book too.

http://www.librarything.com/work/12050215
http://www.librarything.com/work/11301706
http://www.librarything.com/work/book/96949738

1242wonderY
Apr 10, 2013, 4:17 pm

125TnTexas
Apr 10, 2013, 5:25 pm

Thanks!

126DouglasAtEik
Apr 11, 2013, 4:43 am

Added book ISBN 3861870398 (“Auf Hochtouren” David Laurents, pub. Bruno Gmünder) from Amazon.
Book was automatically added to work “Vurt” by Jeff Noon ( http://www.librarything.com/work/19214 ), for no reason that I can understand.

I then went in to work editions and separated out several (three or four) separate instances of “Auf Hochtouren” from “Vuit”.

But after this the book “Auf Hochtouren” is still attached in some way that I don’t understand to the work “Vuit” ( http://www.librarything.com/work/13735154/editions/96968651 ); the separation of the two separate works is not complete and I don’t know what to do now …

Help ?!

127Nicole_VanK
Apr 11, 2013, 4:49 am

There is one copy of "Vurt. / Noon, Jeff (ISBN 3861870398)", so with the same ISBN as "Auf Hochtouren". User mistake?, reused ISBN?

Anyway, nothing further we can do.

128connie53
Apr 11, 2013, 4:29 pm

Please combine:

The first Confessor by Terry Goodkind
http://www.librarything.nl/work/12754914/summary

with

De eerste biechtmoeder by Terry Goodkind
http://www.librarything.nl/work/13738131/summary/96987832

Thanks.

129.Monkey.
Apr 11, 2013, 4:42 pm

130connie53
Apr 11, 2013, 4:52 pm

Thanks PMM.

131Brian_Knight
Apr 11, 2013, 8:32 pm

Please combine:

The Conjuring Glass
http://www.librarything.com/work/13460992

and

The Phoenix Girls: Book 1 The Conjuring Glass
http://www.librarything.com/work/13600439

Many thanks :)

Brian

132AnnieMod
Apr 11, 2013, 8:43 pm

134omargosh
Apr 11, 2013, 11:43 pm

> 133
And Amazon has merged their reviews, and the Contents from the "Look Inside" view appear identical as well. I've gone ahead and combined them.

135TnTexas
Apr 12, 2013, 7:01 pm

Thanks. I was pretty sure they were the same.

136vancouverdeb
Apr 13, 2013, 2:06 pm

Please combine

The Poisoned Pawn: An Inspector Ramirez Novel

http://www.librarything.com/work/13584736

with

http://www.librarything.com/work/13529327

Poisoned Pawn. They are the same book.

137Nicole_VanK
Apr 13, 2013, 2:10 pm

> 136: Done.

139henkl
Apr 14, 2013, 2:07 am

141henkl
Apr 14, 2013, 7:14 am

> 140: Done. All copies on WorldCat of "New Zealand Travellers Road Atlas" have Kiwimaps as publishers, so I combined all three of them.

142MarthaJeanne
Apr 14, 2013, 9:01 am

Thank you.

143TnTexas
Edited: Apr 14, 2013, 10:27 am

I'm pretty sure these two are the same book:

http://www.librarything.com/work/13664282
http://www.librarything.com/work/12226040

I believe Dan Dawkins is the pen name/name of the book's main character and the author is Michael Robertson, Jr.

At least that seems to be what Goodreads says about it.

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I also think all three of these entries might be the same book. It's a compilation of stories, and I think they are entered under different authors that contributed to it.

http://www.librarything.com/work/12109010
http://www.librarything.com/work/12399289
http://www.librarything.com/work/12812254

144ElBarto
Edited: Apr 14, 2013, 11:49 am

This work:
http://www.librarything.com/work/11444032

Should appear on this author's profile:
http://www.librarything.com/author/hgsdalbjrn

Can somebody please fix this and then tell me how he/she did it?

EDIT: Now it's there. Weird. Never mind!

145Nicole_VanK
Apr 14, 2013, 11:49 am

> 144: Fixed. Just a matter of hitting "recalculate author page" (well, doing so twice in this particular case).

146omargosh
Apr 14, 2013, 12:07 pm

#143 by @TnTexas>

I found Twitter and Facebook connections linking Dawkins and Robertson, so combined those authors and combined the scattered Regret copies.

And I found a publisher page for Darker than Noir to confirm your suspicion (granted, I assumed the 4 copies listed under "Paul L." were really for "Paul L. Bates" and just part of a larger problem with user Kelly-S's catalog). It had a nice listing of the contributors, so I edited "other authors" so that they are all credited, and so that the author link's in people's catalogs will keep the work showing up on their different author pages (except for poor "Paul L.").

147TnTexas
Edited: Apr 14, 2013, 11:11 pm

Thanks, omargosh!

While entering my books, I've run across yet another set that I believe should be combined:

http://www.librarything.com/work/13660166/book/97104179
http://www.librarything.com/work/8359767

According to the author's blog, she's published under both names - Candice Speare and Candice Speare Prentice.

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I'm also pretty certain these two go together:

http://www.librarything.com/work/13532483
http://www.librarything.com/work/12419820

And this one might go with them as well, but I'm not sure:

http://www.librarything.com/work/13104782

148SimonW11
Edited: Apr 15, 2013, 2:45 am

done (the last with few details was tagged kindle so I searched kindle books to confirm it had to be the same.

150.Monkey.
Apr 15, 2013, 11:07 am

151TnTexas
Edited: Apr 16, 2013, 1:57 am

Thanks, SimonW11!

Nevermind about the question I asked. Closer examination of the books showed that one contained two stories and the other probably only one. Sorry for the confusion.

152jules_l
Apr 16, 2013, 8:48 am

Please combine:

http://www.librarything.com/work/4291714/
http://www.librarything.com/work/13326098/

Both are clearly the same book (Three Ponies and Shannan by Diana Pullein-Thompson), but the second one has the illustrator's name as part of the title, so hasn't been recognised as such.

Thanks.

153MarthaJeanne
Apr 16, 2013, 9:30 am

152> Done.

154bonne1978
Apr 16, 2013, 1:08 pm

Please combine:
www.librarything.com/work/4387502
www.librarything.com/work/4911368

155JerryMmm
Edited: Apr 16, 2013, 1:43 pm

#154 done, and combined & added CK for the author.

156MerryMary
Edited: Apr 16, 2013, 9:02 pm

How do I handle 2 different editions of the same book when the content is significantly different? I refer specifically to Junior Book of Authors - 1934. and Junior Book of Authors, Second Edition Revised - 1951.

157henkl
Apr 16, 2013, 5:48 pm

??? Your links go to Pride and Prejudice and Jane Eyre.

158jasbro
Apr 16, 2013, 7:25 pm

> 156, 157: Try instead http://www.librarything.com/work/1218511 and http://www.librarything.com/work/2127278 respectively. And, if you're me, you leave 'em alone (except to collect stray copies of each) and wrap 'em all up in a bright & shiny new Series: http://www.librarything.com/series/Books+of+Junior+Authors+and+Illustrators . Thoughts? Thanks!

159MerryMary
Apr 16, 2013, 9:05 pm

I fixed the links. (I have no idea...)

I think jasbro is right, I'll leave them together. and in Common Knowledge, I'll just have 2 first lines, 2 last lines, etc.

Thanks for looking.

160jasbro
Edited: Apr 16, 2013, 11:54 pm

> 159: Assuming your (1951 Edition) first and last lines go to Junior Book of Authors, Second Edition Revised, I moved them to the record for that Work. Please advise if this is inappropriate; thanks!

161MerryMary
Apr 17, 2013, 12:39 am

Nope. That is correct. Thanks again.

162SimonW11
Apr 17, 2013, 6:21 am

159 >a disambiguation notice warning others not to combine in each ones CK. would be good

163jasbro
Apr 17, 2013, 9:17 am

> 162: Done.

164MissWatson
Apr 17, 2013, 9:25 am

I looked up an author before entering my book and found that he's been mixed up with another of the same name, who is unfortunately a very prolific writer in German Reichswehr history.
http://www.librarything.com/author/michaelisrolf-1&all=1
I split the authors, but there seems to be a third author page floating around that I can't get hold of. For explanation: My guy is number 2 with only three books to his name, but he is also connected to Grass' The Flounder by way of a foreword.
Is there any way to assign the remaining titles correctly or to combine the third author to number 1?
I'm truly sorry for messing things up like this.

165jasbro
Edited: Apr 17, 2013, 11:07 am

> 164: Assuming the Work assignments between the two "Rolf Michaelises" are correct, it looks like you did very well. A Site Search for "Rolf Michaelis" only showed the two Authors and their shared Disambiguation Page, which still had a mix of Common Knowledge between the two. On comparing and cleaning up Common Knowledge from the English, German and Dutch sites respectively, however, I think it's all correctly attributed to either (1) or (2) now, and not to both. FWIW, I also told LibraryThing to "Never Combine" Rolf Michaelis (2) with Günter Grass. Please take a look, and see whether there's anything more to be set straight, or if you have other questions. Thank you!

166MissWatson
Apr 17, 2013, 3:09 pm

> 165 That looks perfect, thank you, jasbro!

169suitable1
Apr 19, 2013, 5:27 pm

#167 & 168

Looks like they are combined

170omargosh
Apr 19, 2013, 5:35 pm

167 & 168> Hi Ardin,

The books you've listed are already combined. They just look like separate works to you because you're the owner of different editions/copies of the works. (A confusing aspect of LT (at least it was confusing to me for the longest time) is that if you're logged in and you own a work, you don't see it like the rest of LT can ... it only will show the view for your copy of the work, with that specific cover, and the title/authors as you've entered them ... unless you click the "Work-only work page" link at the bottom right of each work page.) In this case you can tell they're part of the same work because the first number in each of the URLs is the same.

171MarthaJeanne
Edited: Apr 19, 2013, 5:37 pm

You can see from the URLs that they were already combined.

Look at the 'your book information' box on the main page. Below the basic information there will be information about other copies you have of the same work and about the way the work is listed.

172Schmerguls
Edited: Apr 20, 2013, 8:05 am

I don't know how to fix the entry on George Mills. http://www.librarything.com/author/millsgeorge

Here is the article from Gale's on him and it shows books he wrote:

George S(torginne) Mills
Contemporary Authors Online, 2001
Updated: September 25, 2001

Listen Listen

Born: 1906 in Chicago, Illinois, United States
Nationality: American
Occupation: Writer
George S(torginne) Mills

WRITINGS BY THE AUTHOR:
All published by Iowa State University Press, except where noted:
•The Little Man with the Long Shadow: The Life and Times of Frederick M. Hubbell, privately printed, 1955, reprinted, ISUP, 1988.
•Rogues and Heroes from Iowa's Amazing Past, 1972.
•Harvey Ingham and Garner Cowles, Sr.: Things Don't Just Happen, edited by Joan Bunke, 1977.
•Looking in Windows: Surprising Stories of Old Des Moines, 1991.
•A Judge and a Rope, and Other Stories of Bygone Iowa, 1994.
•(With Richard W. Peterson) No One is Above the Law: The Story of Southern Iowa's Federal Court, n.p., 1994.

Contributor to magazines and newspapers, including Look, Iowa Palimpsest, and Reader's Digest.

Marshalltown Times-Republic, Marshalltown, Iowa, reporter and sports editor, 1928-33; Iowa Daily Press Association, Des Moines, statehouse reporter, 1934-37; Associated Press, Des Moines, statehouse reporter and political writer, 1937-42; Cedar Rapids Gazette, Cedar Rapids, Iowa, city editor, 1942-43; Des Moines Register, Des Moines, political writer, 1943-71; WHO-TV, Des Moines, statehouse reporter and political writer, 1976--. Iowa correspondent for Time, Life, Fortune, Look, and Quick magazines, 1943-54. Member of Iowa State Historical Board.

Family: Born June 15, 1906, in Chicago, IL; son of George S., Sr. and Esther (Stickson) Mills; married Mary B. Sweney, September 11, 1933 (died October 24, 1967); married Francelle Radloff Randall, July 5, 1974; children: Mary Mills Dunea, Thomas M., George S. III, Katherine Mills Mace. Education: Northwestern University, B.S., 1928. Politics: Independent. Religion: Protestant. Memberships: National Historical Society, Smithsonian Institution, State Historical Society of Iowa City, Des Moines Civil War Roundtable. Addresses: Home: 5241 Southwest 48th Ave., Des Moines, Iowa 50321. Office: WHO-TV, 1100 Walnut, Des Moines, Iowa 50308.

"Sidelights"
Mills commented to CA: "I have appreciated opportunities for creative writing in the print media. My main interests have always been politics, history, state government, and the legislature. Maybe whatever I am stemmed from a house well supplied with my grandfather's and my father's books."

Mills explained that his first book, The Little Man With the Long Shadow, "is a biography of Frederick M. Hubbell, a pioneer Des Moines railroad builder, founder of Equitable Life of Iowa, and owner of large real estate holdings. My next book, Rogues and Heroes of Iowa's Amazing Past, is a sort of anecdotal history of Iowa as reflected in the lives and deeds of interesting and important people. The information for this book was gleaned from extensive newspaper and historical papers research, and a good deal from my own experiences as a reporter for the past fifty years. Things Don't Just Happen is an account of the Des Moines Register as reflected in the lives of Harvey Ingham, a legendary editor of the paper, and Gardner Cowles, an equally legendary publisher of the paper."

173Jarandel
Apr 20, 2013, 8:14 am

>172 Schmerguls: Had a stab at it, does it look better ?

174omargosh
Apr 20, 2013, 8:22 am

I also aliased millsgeorge-1 to millsgeorges since one of his works was listed there.

175omargosh
Edited: Apr 20, 2013, 8:50 am

millsgeorge-3 (author of The People and the Saints) is the same person that wrote this work, attributed to millsphdgeorge.

Is best practices to combine millsgeorge with millsphdgeorge, or to alias millsgeorge-3 to millsphdgeorge (or does it depend on how he is normally attributed on most of his works, or is it a matter of contentious opinions)?

176MarthaJeanne
Apr 20, 2013, 12:05 pm

I would alias.

177omargosh
Apr 20, 2013, 3:27 pm

Thanks, MarthaJeanne (and looks like Jarandel agreed with you).

179MarthaJeanne
Apr 20, 2013, 4:07 pm

178 is a 0 edition combination not in suggested combinations.

180al.vick
Apr 20, 2013, 4:11 pm

I know, but is there a way to combine the two anyway?

181SimonW11
Apr 20, 2013, 4:14 pm

179 but I did pull in another stray.

182MarthaJeanne
Apr 20, 2013, 5:15 pm

There is a way, but you need to know it - I don't so I wrote that to make it clear which people needed to be looking at it.

183Schmerguls
Apr 20, 2013, 10:10 pm

Much better. Thanks so much to all who worked on it.

184jasbro
Apr 21, 2013, 6:52 pm

I need guidance on Charlotte Brontë’s Jane Eyre, and specifically whether World Publishing’s “Rainbow Classics” edition (1946) was abridged or unabridged. Please see my detailed post at http://www.librarything.com/topic/111617#4055656 . Any help you can offer is appreciated. Thank you!

186omargosh
Apr 21, 2013, 7:44 pm

#184 by @jasbro>
Worldcat lists it with 504 pages. I'm guessing that probably means it's unabridged, but couldn't tell you for sure.

187omargosh
Apr 21, 2013, 7:48 pm

#185 by @ELiz_M>
Done.

188Mareofthesea
Edited: Apr 21, 2013, 11:30 pm

Not a specific book but the Danielle Steel author page has a lot of stray copies in other languages, if someone would like to take a look.

eta: Also Nicolas Sparks

189Mareofthesea
Edited: Apr 21, 2013, 11:23 pm

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190stellarexplorer
Edited: Apr 22, 2013, 12:44 am

Hi - confused about a book I just added which won't easily combine with the two other copies that exist on LT. There is an author problem, in that the two previously cataloged copies list different authors, and the book itself (which is actually a cute mini boxed set of 9 tiny art books purchased in a museum in Italy) lists no author. My online searches give the author only as "Firenze Musei".

The book is Great Museums in Hand
http://www.librarything.com/work/book/97375921
The ISBN is (oddly) given as 88-8347-186-5

Did I leave out anything important?

Thanks for any help and/or explanation; I would rather be able to do this myself, but it's beyond my -- let's say -- merely average facility with this task.

191MarthaJeanne
Edited: Apr 22, 2013, 2:40 am

OK the ISBN isn't odd - as it is from Italy. A normal 10 digit ISBN with the first digit indicating where it is from. (The numbers are associated with the languages of the country they are from NOT the language of the book.)

What is really missing is the proper links. I find the links you give a bit odd. The touchstone ( which we normally don't use here) links to a work with two members. The link to your book doesn't include a work number, but links to the same work. Strangely, although your copy leads there, your copy seems to be missing from all the work information. What's more, the book information is missing the entry date.

192Nicole_VanK
Apr 22, 2013, 5:18 am

> 188: I've combined the ones I managed to identify (which certainly isn't all of them).

193SimonW11
Apr 22, 2013, 5:21 am

188> I pulled in a few lost ones earlier

194SimonW11
Edited: Apr 22, 2013, 5:44 am

190> FWIW I suspect that a sufficiently through search would reveal Maddalena Winspeare as editor, books of this type tuck the information away in odd places in minute typefaces. it is definately her field. Out of interest have you searched for the individual titles

195SimonW11
Apr 22, 2013, 6:18 am

188> there more combined but really it need a fans .

196BoekenTrol71
Apr 22, 2013, 1:50 pm

I am trying to combine Primary Colors by Anonymous with De kandidaat by Anonymous, since the latter is 'merely' a Dutch translation of the original. It doesn't really work.
1. I can't see the 'combine author / work' link
2. When I get to the 'anonymous' author page, I don't see my edition of the book.

Link to the listings of both works in my library: http://www.librarything.com/catalog.php?author=anonymous.

So, how do I proceed now? I need this author http://www.librarything.com/author/anonymous-6 I see that he has been aliased into Joe Klein. Is that maybe the reason why I can't combine? And how do I give my Anonymous author that alias?

I am grateful for any explanation (I'd like to try this one myself, that is, if there's no superpowers involved...).

197Nicole_VanK
Edited: Apr 22, 2013, 2:19 pm

1 .) The anonymous page is nightmarishly big. Also it has been split, so you might have to go to the main (disambigiation) page to find both. Probably you should use "edit the division" to get the other version of that work from anonymous-0 (unknown) to anounymous-6.

2.) Combine author? Anonymous and anonymous? No need. And please never ever combine anonymous with Joe Kline or any other identifiable author. That would create chaos.

p.s.: I think the book has already been combined into the work.

198BoekenTrol71
Apr 22, 2013, 3:21 pm

>197 Nicole_VanK: Thank you for your quick reaction.

Reading your post scriptum, I will check that out and leave the anonymous in peace. Too big of a nightmare indeed.
I edited the work and when the data didn't change, not even after recalculate, I may have been too impatient. Usually the numbers / editions / members with the same book etc. change within half a minute.

199lorax
Apr 22, 2013, 3:24 pm

197>

Yeah, I combined it. Someone else had already moved De kandidaat to Anonymous-6.

200stellarexplorer
Apr 22, 2013, 3:50 pm

>191 MarthaJeanne: Thank you for taking the time to look at it. I am not sure whether you have any course of action to suggest to me?

When I can I will double check on the author, however when I do edit the book to give the author as Maddalena Winspeare, it doesn't help in the combining effort.

201MarthaJeanne
Apr 22, 2013, 4:13 pm

200> As I said above, it is already at least half in that work. You can't combine it because it is already associated with that work. Why it seems to be only half there, I don't know. Three possibilities for 'action': 1) Hope things clear up over night. 2) Hope someone with more insight than I have looks at it. 3) Bug report.

202stellarexplorer
Apr 22, 2013, 5:14 pm

Ok, thanks. I suppose even if it doesn't clear up, there are worse outcomes in this world;)

203omargosh
Apr 22, 2013, 5:24 pm

#201 by @MarthaJeanne> and #202 by @stellarexplorer>
I took a look and couldn't figure it out either. I have a book in my catalog that behaves similarly in that, in catalog view, the number at right (of other other members) is 1 (for a while it was 0), as if I were the only owner, but clicking on the title shows that there are nine members, none of which are apparently me (I'm absent from the "Members" page of the work). Also similar to your case, the URLs in the catalog seem to be based on the pre-combination work ID. This explains why the work ID gets dropped from the URL, and only the book number shows up. It's trying to redirect to the new post-combination ID, but fails (the links in both our cases fail entirely when trying to go to a link like /work/[preComboID]/members/[bookID] instead of /work/[preComboID]/book/[bookID] ... "book" seems OK but not "members").

I would probably file a bug report if I were you (my problem book didn't clear up overnight). I reported mine in a bug about works with zero members in one's collection, but, like with all other bugs I report, they are pretty much ignored. Hopefully you'll have better luck. :-)

204Mareofthesea
Apr 22, 2013, 6:55 pm

192, 193: Thank you.

205jasbro
Apr 22, 2013, 10:32 pm

This thread is now CLOSED. Please continue our discussions at Combining/Separating (Please Fix This Book!) Request Thread #56 -- http://www.librarything.com/topic/153370 . Thank you!