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Edited: Dec 13, 2018, 12:07pm Top

You asked for a holiday-themed hunt, and we listened: introducing the first ever 12 Days of LibraryThing—a holiday scavenger hunt! Much like our annual Pirate Treasure Hunt and the more recent Halloween Haunt, the object of the game is to solve our clues (in verse!) and go to the LibraryThing page each clue is talking about. You're looking for a specific page on LibraryThing, but it might not be a book! Could be an author, a tag, etc.

» Go see today’s clue!

This scavenger hunt is a bit different from others we’ve done in that you don’t get to see all the clues right away. It’s the 12 Days of LibraryThing, so a new clue will be launched each day (at midnight EST), starting with today, and continuing through Dec. 24th.

This time, you’re looking for pears. Tomorrow (and each day after that), we’ll pick one random member who found the previous day’s pear to receive a free set of LibraryThing/TinyCat coasters. Everyone who finds a given day’s pear will get a profile badge, after the 12 Days are over.

If you miss a day, that’s okay! You can still find the pear(s) on subsequent days—everyone has until Dec. 31st to find as many pears as they can. On the 31st, we’ll award one lucky winner who’s found all 12 pears with a LibraryThing tote bag!

Helpful tips

Please, use the spoiler tag when posting hints or suggestions. Here's how:

To use the spoiler tag, type the following before whatever you'd like to hide:


And this, at the end of what's hidden:


If the 12 Days aren't working for you

You might be using the old version of the LibraryThing site. Is the nav bar at the top of the page salmon/peach colored? That's the old site. Go here and look under "Design" to switch. You can switch back afterwards

Dec 13, 2018, 9:28am Top

What a neat idea!

Edited: Dec 13, 2018, 9:30am Top

Excellent, I do like these - even if I usually come up short somewhere. >:-)

Dec 13, 2018, 9:33am Top

Are you sure you all aren't centered up at the North Pole? 'Cause you sure do find ways to bring cheer to the dark time of the year! Thank you!

Dec 13, 2018, 9:41am Top

Oh, this is great! I love the idea of a new clue each day.

Dec 13, 2018, 9:45am Top

Ay yi yi! Like I need a new online obsession!

Dec 13, 2018, 9:48am Top

I like it! One pear down, 11 to go.

Dec 13, 2018, 9:57am Top

>7 Bookmarque: Really? Ugh I feel like an idiot!

Dec 13, 2018, 10:00am Top

Well I'm struggling already !

Dec 13, 2018, 10:02am Top

>9 tina1969: Yeah, tell me about it, and yet, I found three pears, but clearly they don't count! The one that pops up at the top advertising this scavenger hunt, the one in the scavenger hunt instructions, and the one beside the words "Pear 1".

Dec 13, 2018, 10:04am Top

I never see to do anything right when I try these. I think I've solved the clie and nothing happens. It's more depressing than fun.

Dec 13, 2018, 10:05am Top

A clue to point you, clear eyed and bright sounds like a Star, and the last two lines are about pear trees and pears.

Only things I can think of with a star is the sky or a Christmas tree, but what does a Christmas Tree have to do with a Pear Tree? All I could think of is the Christmas shop page, but I will say, there is no Pear on the page to buy the Library Thing Thong in the shop, I can tell you that much!

Dec 13, 2018, 10:06am Top

I am also not finding it so far.

Dec 13, 2018, 10:08am Top

Feel stupid now, found it.

Dec 13, 2018, 10:09am Top

>14 tina1969: Where? where?

Dec 13, 2018, 10:10am Top

>12 ChessFanatic: Forget the star. You're trying too hard.

Dec 13, 2018, 10:10am Top

I thought it was insanely obvious!

On the first day of Christmas, my true love gave to me . . .

Dec 13, 2018, 10:15am Top

Holy cannoli, you guys are keeping busy! Thanks for this - so much fun!!

Dec 13, 2018, 10:15am Top

The answer is obvious. The actual location of the pear, not so much. Not tags, common knowledge, and I thought I had checked all the works. So no, only insane, not insanely obvious.

Edited: Dec 13, 2018, 10:19am Top

>19 ferness: Did you try singular or plural?

Dec 13, 2018, 10:24am Top

>19 ferness: you may have picked the wrong 'obvious' answer then, for the location is indeed one of those you've checked.

Dec 13, 2018, 10:25am Top

There's 40 results and none of them appear to be it

Edited: Dec 13, 2018, 10:31am Top

I could look all day and never find it. Guess I'm just not good at these things.

Dec 13, 2018, 10:30am Top

How could it be obvious *and* plural?

Dec 13, 2018, 10:32am Top

>24 ferness: I don't know, but it sure ain't obvious. I search singular of both words and I get 40 matches, none of which appear to be it. If I pluralize the bird or the plant, I get 0.

Dec 13, 2018, 10:33am Top

>24 ferness: Then check everything again in singular.

Dec 13, 2018, 10:33am Top

Same here.

Dec 13, 2018, 10:34am Top

Just concentrate on the fruit.

Dec 13, 2018, 10:34am Top

That's what I DID check. Then wasted time checking plural because of your question. Still nothing.

Dec 13, 2018, 10:36am Top

Sheesh - Just found it. Let's just say that what is very unclear is what you are searching for. I was searching for various books. It's not the books they are looking for.

Dec 13, 2018, 10:37am Top

Having flailed around with this for a little while before finding the page, I'll say that the answer is *straightforward* but not necessarily *obvious*. Here's my hint:

Only one line of the clue actually matters.

Dec 13, 2018, 10:39am Top

Thank you. That was far more helpful.

Dec 13, 2018, 10:44am Top

>19 ferness:

Please use the spoiler tag!

Dec 13, 2018, 10:46am Top

So much for today's cleaning and tomorrows baking, there's a new game in town!

Dec 13, 2018, 10:49am Top

Fun! Love the one clue a day approach.

Dec 13, 2018, 10:53am Top

Dec 13, 2018, 10:54am Top

>30 ChessFanatic:
...very unclear is what you are searching for. I was searching for various books.

Sometimes it will be a work page, sometimes an author page, sometimes a tag page, sometimes a Common Knowledge page, sometimes a page in the store.

It could be any kind of page on the site, but it will be one specific page.

Dec 13, 2018, 11:02am Top

Slightly, but not completely, off-topic.

I recommend googling "12 days of Christmas".

Dec 13, 2018, 11:29am Top

Got it without opening spoilers. I feel proud.

Edited: Dec 13, 2018, 11:34am Top

I still can’t find it! Spoilers aren’t helping either!

Dec 13, 2018, 11:38am Top

>40 mjdred: search the word you think is correct and then check out the options on the left side of that page.

Dec 13, 2018, 11:40am Top

I think post 37 should have been in the instructions, informing people of the possibilities. I was under the assumption that it had to be a book, store, or forum-type page (i.e. SantaThing pages). I had no idea it could be an author page or tag page or common knowledge page (no idea common knowledge pages existed until today), etc.

If you are under the assumption that it must be a book page, you won't find today's.

Dec 13, 2018, 11:45am Top

>42 ChessFanatic: I think that's a good point. Having used the site for so many years, I know my way around it pretty well, and having done these scavenger hunts before, I know the various places the "treasures" may be found. Lots of users don't drill into the site that deeply, and may not be aware of things like common knowledge, etc. This game should be a neat way to learn new things about the site, as well as having a bit of fun.

HAVING SAID ALL THAT.....I'm not having a good time with this first clue. I've explored and explored and am not getting anywhere. All the hints just seem to point me to places I've already been.

Dec 13, 2018, 12:00pm Top

I'm with lilithcat ..so obvious I thought, "That can't be it!" But it is.

Dec 13, 2018, 12:06pm Top

>44 lkmiller: I agree it's rarely the first page I try, but there it was. Want to bet they get more problematic?

Dec 13, 2018, 12:11pm Top

“Each day, we will randomly select from the pool of people who found that day's pear to receive a set of our coasters.”

Really! That means 12 people will receive the coasters? Wow, now I am hopeful :)

Dec 13, 2018, 12:19pm Top

>17 lilithcat: For future reference, you might as well keep a copy of the song open in another tab and think punny.

>45 Helenliz: Today was the softball. Day five might also be a softball. Day nine is when y'all will grab the pitchforks, I think.

Dec 13, 2018, 12:25pm Top

I am not finding this. At this point I don't care about prizes or anything...I just want to see it so I know how stupid I am. HELP? You can even exclude me from the random drawing if/when I find it.

Dec 13, 2018, 12:38pm Top

I love the one-clue-per-day, if for no other reason that it spreads it out and the fun lasts longer!

>48 Disco_grinch: I'm sure you can get the word that they're pointing you at. When you search for that term the trick is to click on tags, then select the first term in the list.

Dec 13, 2018, 12:40pm Top


Dec 13, 2018, 12:45pm Top

I tried and tried and tried, got nothing. Then I started over again and got it on the first try. Now I feel really stupid!

Edited: Dec 13, 2018, 12:48pm Top

So I found it but I want to say...the clue is MISLEADING. Of the two questions at the end of the rhyme, if you try to answer both, YOU WILL NOT FIND IT. The answer does NOT answer both questions unless you're being ridiculous.

Dec 13, 2018, 12:52pm Top

>49 mamzel: Thank you.

I am feeling pretty slow, but at least I have one pear...

Dec 13, 2018, 12:54pm Top

I got it but have no idea why...

Dec 13, 2018, 12:57pm Top

It's more fun when The Clues reference Books rather than Tags or Common Knowledge.

Author pages and Store can be rewarding.

Dec 13, 2018, 1:03pm Top

I finally found it! Yea!

Dec 13, 2018, 1:12pm Top

What a nice surprise!

Dec 13, 2018, 1:15pm Top

>55 m.belljackson: I think the idea is to introduce people to parts of LT that they don't normally use or might not even know are there. So in that sense, I like that the clues draw on a variety of locations, even though some of them are outside of my wheelhouse.

Dec 13, 2018, 1:25pm Top

For nearly an hour, I explored the site, clicking and clicking, but I never found that elusive pear.

Frustrated, I logged out. A couple of minutes ago, I logged back on to try again. And guess what, LibraryThing says that I had already earned today's pear.

Now, I am really perplexed, because I don't know how and where I found that! Am I the only one who found the pear without knowing it?

Dec 13, 2018, 1:29pm Top

Yeah I found it!! I had the word but just didn't look in that particular spot first. Thanks for the hints they helped!!

Dec 13, 2018, 1:30pm Top

>59 K_T_C: Nope. Me too. Had no idea I'd found it but there it was.

Dec 13, 2018, 1:32pm Top

>58 rosalita:

That makes sense when it works in a straightforward way, not when finding a clue takes endless clicking and NO new learning!

Dec 13, 2018, 2:00pm Top

Getting all the clues on the day they come out is going to be difficult with all the holiday travel coming up!

Dec 13, 2018, 2:27pm Top

Yippee! I was hoping for a Christmas edition of the scavenger hunt and I guess I was good this year because Santa delivered! Thanks so much for giving me something fun to look forward to for the next 11 mornings :)

Dec 13, 2018, 2:29pm Top

I'm still chiding myself for my stupidity & shaking my fist at the powers that be (and thanking them cos I love this stuff!). If I figure this out by next Xmas I'll be satisfied.

Dec 13, 2018, 2:39pm Top

Got it. I used some suggestions. Thanks.

Edited: Dec 13, 2018, 2:45pm Top

Is LibraryThing going to give me 40 gold rings so that I can be rich after selling them?

(5 each day from days 5 thru 12 makes 40!)

I'll be glad to donate the 12 partridges, 22 turtle doves, 30 French hens, 36 calling birds, 42 geese, 42 swans, 40 maids, 36 ladies, 30 lords, 22 pipers, and 12 drummers back to LibraryThing!

Dec 13, 2018, 2:47pm Top

Cool!!! Love these scavenger hunts. So fun! Merry Christmas to all. :)

Dec 13, 2018, 2:49pm Top

I finally got it but no clue which page I clicked on that caused it to work lol

Dec 13, 2018, 3:36pm Top

I'm pretty sure I clicked on that page many times before it actually gave me the pear.

Edited: Dec 13, 2018, 3:42pm Top

If you are really really stuck, I'm going to give you the full solution under a spoiler cut. It's not just a hint, so if you want to keep trying on your own for a while, don't read the following I found this clue, as simple as it is, to be overly frustrating. As others have said, there seem to be two parts to it, but there are not. Search the site for "pear" (Not Pear tree, nor tree, nor partridge IN a pear tree). Then click on "tags" and in the results of that search click on "pear", which is the top of the list that comes up. That gets you your first pear.

Dec 13, 2018, 3:45pm Top

>69 DKnight0918:

When you get to the correct page, there should be a banner across the top that says You have found today's pear. (check your basket)

Dec 13, 2018, 4:07pm Top

ChessFanatic (#42)

If you are under the assumption that it must be a book page, you won't find today's.

Well, no, but why would you be under the assumption that there's a limitation what was not stated anywhere?

Dec 13, 2018, 4:11pm Top

>73 lorax:

Good question!

Particularly when >1 kjgormley: says You're looking for a specific page on LibraryThing, but it might not be a book! Could be an author, a tag, etc.

Edited: Dec 13, 2018, 4:21pm Top

Because many of us are not familiar with sections of the site. For example, I had zero idea that a "Common Knowledge" page even existed until today.

Not everyone is as engrossed in this site as some others are (possibly you, lorax!). And so some "Non-Guru's" might actually make such assumptions and not be familiar with specific areas at all, and so if you never used an area of the site, how would you know to even consider looking there.

That would be like going up to someone that never followed basketball before to explain the difference to you between a Pick-n-Roll and a Give-n-Go or a Low-Post. You'd be lucky if they can tell you the difference between a Field Goal and a Free Throw!

I don't glue myself to this Website. In addition to reading chess books, I'm involved in tournaments, also a bridge player (Silver Life Master), and am a heavy Fantasy Football and Fantasy Baseball player, and so hence watch those two sports as well, along with watching shows like All In, The Rachel Maddow Show, Last Word, and any other show that does not support the 72-year old crooked bastard that used Russian meddling to cheat his way into office!

So yes, many that don't spend 24/7 on here and rather spend maybe an hour a week on here plus additional time where this site is in the background of their screen at work might very well assume that you would be expecting a legitimate "page", like that of a book or an author or chat area, like SantaThing or 2019 Challenge, rather than something benign like tags. Sorry, but a tag is not a page! Only thing I use tags for is to help out Santa in SantaThing, like where I asked for Game Collections rather than say, Opening Theory, and so labelled all the books in my library that are Game Collections so that Santa had a single spot to go to. Otherwise, I see tagging as a complete waste of time.

Dec 13, 2018, 4:21pm Top

>71 laytonwoman3rd: And the first line makes it seem like a pun is involved when the answer is quite straight-forward.

Dec 13, 2018, 4:21pm Top

Sitting in another timezone than EST it would be nice if there was somewhere on LT a clock showing EST time. Anyone else with the same need? (And just to remind myself: I can just subtract 6 hours, so I have until early morning local time to find the of yesterday.)

Dec 13, 2018, 4:29pm Top

>77 bnielsen: Or maybe a countdown clock, e.g. "You have 00:07:31:59 left to find today's clue!"

Dec 13, 2018, 4:38pm Top

>75 ChessFanatic:

I appreciate that we don't all have the same familiarity with the site.

But when you say Sorry, but a tag is not a page!, I have to wonder if you even read the original post in this thread, which I quote above. >1 kjgormley: states explicitly that the answer might be a tag (or an author, or anything else).

Dec 13, 2018, 5:01pm Top

I love these hunts! Thank you LibraryThing!
Rating: 🍐🍐🍐🍐🍐

Dec 13, 2018, 5:08pm Top

Duh! I s'pose the lesson here is that, as with so much else on LibraryThing, "I have always depended on the kindness of strangers."

Dec 13, 2018, 5:29pm Top

>47 kjgormley: I think that you assume that I don't already know the entire song by heart (I mean, I've been listening to it for 30mmmphffff years, so...) :)

As for this first clue. I think that personally, I made it much, much harder than I should have. Think simply everyone.

Edited: Dec 13, 2018, 5:31pm Top

I think that one of the purposes of these hunts is to get people to look at parts of the site they don't usually go to.

>82 DanieXJ: only 30 years? That's not long at all.

Dec 13, 2018, 5:34pm Top

Well... there was also that... mmmpffffp in there too. And I am closer to the 40 than the 30.

And, I'm very much trying to restrain myself from pointing out my pet peeve with big companies especially about the 12 Days of Christmas... that... it's Christmas Tide and not 12 days before Christmas... *whistles* :)

Here I'll give y'all a pass, 'cause, honestly, I love these Scavenger Hunts. They make my brain hurt in such a nice way.

Edited: Dec 13, 2018, 5:39pm Top

>84 DanieXJ: Oh, we know. But we had to make it not coincide with the week that everyone's going to be out of the office. Appreciate the pass, nonetheless. ;)

Dec 13, 2018, 6:15pm Top

I found the clue quite easily, but it was more instinct I think than following the writing. From past experience, I've found that there is often a specific line that has the important part of the clue, and the rest might be to make it sound neat or pad it up.

For those who aren't familiar with pages, the LT search box in the upper right corner of the page searches all of LibraryThing. If you look to the left once you've done the search, you will see a list with numbers that references how many times that term appears in places like tags, lists, common knowledge, works, etc. Clicking those terms narrows the search or takes you to the main page. Clicking "tags" will take you to a list of matching tags, and clicking the individual tag will take you to that tag's page, so sometimes you need to do a bit of clicking to find a clue.

Edited: Dec 13, 2018, 7:21pm Top

>41 2wonderY: done that, several times. Argh, still can't find it.

EDIT: there it is, looking too hard I guess...

Dec 13, 2018, 7:32pm Top

Well I guess I am totally over thinking it. Not finding it at all.

Dec 13, 2018, 7:35pm Top

>86 WeeTurtle: Thanks. This is my second one and I am learning.

Edited: Dec 13, 2018, 7:37pm Top

>87 fuzzi: That's what I was doing.

>88 wd40sw: Read the clue through one more time, then take the first thing that pops into your head at the end, and then simplify it down to its components.

Dec 13, 2018, 7:39pm Top

I don't have a left side of page; all I have is this: I've hit thenew design choice over and over and I get nothing with clues - just the rhyme.

On this first day of puns we’ll start you off right
A clue to point you, clear eyed and bright.
Where would a flock of partridges spent the night?
What type of fruit is both poached and raw a delight?

Edited: Dec 13, 2018, 7:46pm Top

>90 DanieXJ: DanieXJ:

I really think that's what I am doing. I'm not worried about if I don't find it. I am taking the first and most obvious thing. Using the two big key words. I am pretty sure I have looked at all the pages it pulled up for the search. Oh well.

Dec 13, 2018, 8:21pm Top

Dec 13, 2018, 8:44pm Top


Dec 13, 2018, 9:31pm Top

I found the pear, but not right away. I was pretty sure what to search on, and knowinng how these hunts work was looking at all sorts of things, but neglected to go to the right one for awhile.

Dec 13, 2018, 9:42pm Top

>92 wd40sw: Use just ONE word. Using two was what kept me from finding it for so long. Did you read the spoiler in >71 laytonwoman3rd: above?

Edited: Dec 13, 2018, 10:56pm Top

>79 lilithcat:

Despite the fact that it says it can be a tag, it also says you are looking for a specific page. Flawed instructions because a tag is not a page. It's a one-word descriptor of a book. For example, "Pet Sematary". There is a page with that book. Gives the description of the book, like plot, page count, etc. Users that have the book in their library. Reviews of the book. Etc. "Cat" is not a page. "Horror" is not a page. There may be a "Horror Genre" page. "Winston Churchill" is not a page, or whatever other "tags" they use, and so I repeat, the instructions can be misleading, and post 37 is clearer than post 1. You can say what you want, but you can't claim what makes more sense to a different person. What makes more sense to you may not make more sense to somebody else. Everybody thinks differently.

Edited: Dec 13, 2018, 11:03pm Top

But every tag has it's own page. That's the "page" you need to get to. We don't say "book page" we say "book" so the two are being treated the same as far as wording. "Winston Churchill" probably does have a page at some point, though it might be found within tags, or common knowledge, etc.

EDIT: Found one here in tags by using the general search, and then looking through the left side list.

Here's a page for "Hogwarts" under common knowledge, places.

Dec 13, 2018, 11:16pm Top

>97 ChessFanatic: Flawed instructions because a tag is not a page.

https://www.librarything.com/tag/cat is a webpage just like https://www.librarything.com/work/24308 is a webpage. The instructions aren't flawed; they may be a little unprecise, but if you understood that a book referred to a page like https://www.librarything.com/work/24308 , then it should be clear a tag refers to a page like https://www.librarything.com/tag/cat.

Edited: Dec 13, 2018, 11:18pm Top

>52 Disco_grinch: So I found it but I want to say...the clue is MISLEADING. Of the two questions at the end of the rhyme, if you try to answer both, YOU WILL NOT FIND IT. The answer does NOT answer both questions...

I agree. I wasted a lot of time because I focused on the question in the next-to-last-line, "Where would a flock of partridges spent the night?" As a result, I spent some time searching on variants of "pear tree" and then just "tree" when that's not it. Focus on the last line only.

Dec 13, 2018, 11:28pm Top

Thank you all for the hints! Hopefully I will do better tomorrow now that I understand how this works.

Dec 13, 2018, 11:57pm Top

>72 lilithcat: Apparently I now have it, but I don't remember seeing that banner. I keep seeing the intro banner to say the hunt is happening, though! I keep clicking X and it keeps coming back.

I am not sure which page my pear came from, but I can only guess based on following the instruction in >71 laytonwoman3rd:.

Dec 14, 2018, 12:04am Top

Hey everyone! The second day's clue is up as of now. Each new clue will appear alongside its predecessors on the same page, here: https://www.librarything.com/hunt_december2018.php

General reminder that helpful tips are in the original post >1 kjgormley:. Feel free to post or ask for hints here!

Happy pear gathering!

Dec 14, 2018, 12:07am Top

Today's pear (#2) just jumped off the page at me! Got it in one try! Am I getting better or was it just super easy?

Dec 14, 2018, 12:07am Top

Squee! Two pears in my basket. Gotta love insomnia and a love of books!

Dec 14, 2018, 12:13am Top

Got it!

Though I must say that I am so old that I was looking for something older than the answer!

Dec 14, 2018, 12:14am Top

We on Eastern time? It's still 9pm here in Pacific.

Dec 14, 2018, 12:17am Top

>107 WeeTurtle:

Yes, see >1 kjgormley: so a new clue will be launched each day (at midnight EST)

Dec 14, 2018, 12:18am Top

Ha! Too young for the TV show, but when in doubt, refer to the song. I got a clue from there. ;)

Dec 14, 2018, 12:27am Top

I pretty sure I have it, but on all the versions of the book, nothing shows up.

Dec 14, 2018, 12:27am Top

Wow. I solved Pear #2 in two clicks, despite being basically clueless about it, through the power of tags. (Although the answer was not itself a tag page.)

Dec 14, 2018, 12:28am Top

I'm not American and I've never heard of tv show (or song) and only heard of the {correct response} recently yet I was *first* to get today's pear. Patting myself on the back!

Dec 14, 2018, 12:31am Top

I'm bummed I missed the first day.

Edited: Dec 14, 2018, 12:45am Top

Got the 2nd clue in 2 goes. It's a book that I recently read and loved. I should have gotten it in one.

And only after did I realize the double pun of it being the 2nd day of Christmas.


Dec 14, 2018, 12:55am Top

>113 sdbookhound: You can still find the pear from Day 1! If you find all 12 of them, then at the end of it all (Dec 31st.), you'll be entered into a drawing for an LT tote bag.

Dec 14, 2018, 12:58am Top

Thanks. I had missed this clue, but was going to burn out brain cells trying to figure it out. I would have never come up with the above...Got the one today though!!

Edited: Dec 14, 2018, 1:48am Top

>106 lilithcat: You and me both! I was thinking TV shows from about 40 years *before* the airing of the answer.

Dec 14, 2018, 1:29am Top

Maybe it was because I didn't have much of an idea of what I was doing yesterday but I found today's much more quickly!

Dec 14, 2018, 1:37am Top

I found Day #1 and #2, but my "basket" doesn't register that I found that first one, since I found it after Eastern Time has shifted into the next day (but not before Mountain Time had). Will the system recognize those of us who found the pears a little late and still enter us into the tote bag drawing, or...?

Dec 14, 2018, 1:51am Top

Yeah, I got "You have found a pear, but it is a pear from a previous day."

Dec 14, 2018, 1:52am Top

I was driving myself buggy trying to remember programs like Bonanaza when I should've thought The second day of Christmas my true love sent to me: two turtle-DOVES, a partridge, and a pear-tree. Nice!

Dec 14, 2018, 2:51am Top

I found yesterdays so simple as to be almost trivial, but todays had me stumped for a while. What finally did it was The hint in >121 the_red_shoes: then look for a book in the right genre that is also a tv series. I did not know the thing at all.

Dec 14, 2018, 3:04am Top

Got pear two straight away.

Dec 14, 2018, 3:12am Top

>122 wester: Thanks! I had never ever heard of that book or series, searching instead for Bonanza too, hehe

Edited: Dec 14, 2018, 4:06am Top

I'll have to come back later when search is working.

ETA Got it. Search doesn't work, but tagmash does.

Dec 14, 2018, 4:29am Top

Yeah, it's a bit frustrating when search doesn't work. Had to take the long way round through recommendations for my own books...

Edited: Dec 14, 2018, 4:35am Top

I think tagmash was easier than regular search would have been. and if you choose the same clue word and genre to mash that I did, you will get a very short list with an obvious candidate. One that neither my husband or I had ever heard of. We are certainly old enough, but live outside the US, and this is not a genre that interests us.

Edited: Dec 14, 2018, 4:43am Top

>77 bnielsen: and others with time issues. LT used to only have LT time. When we got the option to use local time I just left it. This means I can see what time it is for LT. It is also an easy check during time changes if I have to call relatives in that zone. We are back to 6 hours, but when Europe stops using summer time (probably 2020) if the US keeps it, this will be a big help.

Edited: Dec 14, 2018, 6:16am Top

The search site page doesn't work for half an hour now, also when I look for an author or title i'm sure of existing.
0 editions; number of works not calculated (link)
Works search: Carol

No results.

Do more people have trouble with this ? Are there to many pear pickers in the yard?

Dec 14, 2018, 6:17am Top

>129 EMS_24:
Site search is down for the time being. But tagmash still works. Try that instead.

Dec 14, 2018, 6:20am Top

>129 EMS_24:
Or, you know, use google. Restrict searches to "site:librarything.com" (without the quote marks).

Edited: Dec 14, 2018, 9:16am Top

Thank you!, I will try that.
Tagmash worked for me, , Two Perfect Pears, and a ... now
and I learned something new

Thanx for fixing!

Dec 14, 2018, 6:28am Top

>130 Petroglyph: I used tagmash. I had the answer but could not find the book using search. Thanks for the help.

Dec 14, 2018, 6:51am Top

I never find these things. If I could only find one once I might figure out how it works.

Dec 14, 2018, 6:53am Top

>134 Kristelh: Look at the help remarks that others have posted. I am also learning.

Edited: Dec 14, 2018, 7:01am Top

Got it via a different way than tagmash. I didn't know about tagmash, even after being on LT for 10 years, so I added a book to my catalog, went to it, got the pear, then deleted the book.

Dec 14, 2018, 7:03am Top

Thanks, that worked perfectly.

Dec 14, 2018, 7:21am Top

Site search is down so I can't get to any work pages to get my pear. :(

Edited: Dec 14, 2018, 7:24am Top

Good morning on Dec 14 ~~~LibraryThing's search function appears to "hang". Worked fine last night (I got a pear!)
Anyone else having this problem? Perhaps we should have an extension on finding today's pear if the site has developed a server problem or whatever?

Dec 14, 2018, 7:32am Top

When I added the book of today's pear to my collection and went to the work page, I did not get the pear. When I used tag mash and found the book that way, I got the pear. This is bizarre.

Dec 14, 2018, 7:34am Top

>139 SandyAMcPherson: I'm having the same issue. It takes forever to load, and then says it finds 0 works after a while. I'm pretty sure there are more than 0 works for "Stephen King" on here. :)

Dec 14, 2018, 7:34am Top

Well, had to use the advice in >131 Petroglyph:, but it got me the pear!

Edited: Dec 14, 2018, 7:42am Top

I'm also having an issue with yesterday's pear. I found it today using a work-around since search isn't functioning. I received the pop-up message that I had found the pear but that it was a pear from another day, but it doesn't show up as "in my basket". I understand that I wouldn't be eligible for the prize specific for finding the pear yesterday; however, my understanding is that I can still collect all the pears.

Dec 14, 2018, 7:42am Top

>130 Petroglyph: Thanks for introducing me to tagmash!

Dec 14, 2018, 7:45am Top

I figured out a work-around to the search problem for today's clue as well if anyone wants to know. I can't tell you without giving a hint though.

I added the book in question to my library. I followed my copy link to the main page for the book, then followed the series link, then clicked on the link for the book.

Edited: Dec 14, 2018, 7:54am Top

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Dec 14, 2018, 7:54am Top

After a bit of a diversion researching an older TV series which might have been based on a book one of the clues in this thread helped.

With site search down I went about finding the right page in a different way I remembered someone who had read the book and searched their library to get to the book page

Dec 14, 2018, 7:55am Top

>146 Zoes_Human: go back to post 130. there's a link

Edited: Dec 14, 2018, 8:09am Top

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Edited: Dec 14, 2018, 10:17am Top

>148 Carmenere: Thank you! I was trying to find it through the tagmash on my profile.

Unfortunately, that still didn't fix the problem I'm having where I get to the page, receive the popup verifying that I've found the pear, but do not have the pear show up as found in my "basket". I've tried logging out and logging back in. I've tried using a different browser. I've confirmed I'm using the "new" version per the OP. I've found that damn pear six times now, but I'm still only receiving credit for the pear I found for today's clue.

What am I missing?

>130 Petroglyph: Thank you for posting the link!

Dec 14, 2018, 8:36am Top

I found the second pear! I had an idea of what I was looking for but since search was down I went and used the tagmash which did help. Now I just have to remember to check this site daily until December 24th!

Edited: Dec 14, 2018, 8:49am Top

>121 the_red_shoes:

Ha. Before the clue went up, I was looking for books by Harry Turtledove, because I was guessing each day's clue would relate to the song!

Dec 14, 2018, 8:50am Top

>152 lilithcat: I have been thinking about what the answers could be by looking at the song too.

Dec 14, 2018, 8:53am Top

It doesn't affect me, because I found the answer before search went down, but I think it would be only fair to extend the period for finding the second pear by the length of time it search was unavailable.

Dec 14, 2018, 8:56am Top

Darn search not working. I found the second one by adding the book to my books then going to that book page and then deleting the book from my books.

Dec 14, 2018, 8:59am Top

I avoided the search page by putting a touchstone in a talk message, then deleting it after getting to the page.

Dec 14, 2018, 8:59am Top

On the second clue
If you google the Latin phrase the name of the book should pop up in the list.

Dec 14, 2018, 9:04am Top

I love these hunts. Today’s was easy but I’m still looking for yesterday’s pear. The search box isn’t working for me on my iPad this morning so I might have to continue later.

Edited: Dec 14, 2018, 9:09am Top

>140 lemontwist: Yeah, for some reason if you open the work page from your own collection, it does not register as found pear. I thought I had it wrong, but when I went back to it through tag page, LT changed its mind and gave me my pear :D Could be intentional so that you don't just stumble upon it by working with your catalog when not looking for the pear at all

Edited: Dec 14, 2018, 9:11am Top

Ugh. I know what it is but LT search isn't working. It says there's no such thing and no such author.

When I put a touchstone in, that isn't working either.

At least it's early in the day.

>155 perennialreader: This is one of my favorite books and so I'll try searching my own books.

UPDATE: This worked but I had to remove all reference to "my" book and just cut the URL back to the book itself.

Dec 14, 2018, 9:27am Top

>106 lilithcat: That was me exactly! I was sure I knew the answer, and even had the book in my library, it was such a shock when that wasn't it. Thankfully, the last line of the clue, Googled, gave me the answer. I never would have come up with it on my own because I am familiar with the work through its name alone. :)

Dec 14, 2018, 9:36am Top

>150 Zoes_Human: I finally found the first pear (sigh), and I got the pop-up message that I found a pear from the previous day, but, like you, it doesn’t show up in my basket.

Edited: Dec 14, 2018, 9:48am Top

Well, THAT one was much easier! Found it on my second try once the search feature was back up.

Dec 14, 2018, 9:50am Top

>162 EllsieFind: I think this is the correct behaviour, i.e. you only get credited if you find the pear on the right day. I found both of the first two pears today. Today's got marked as found but yesterday's didn't.

Edited: Dec 14, 2018, 10:01am Top

>164 konallis: I went back and read the directions and I think you are correct. Oh well .... I wonder if that means we won’t be eligible for the final drawing. It’s still loads of fun no matter. Happy hunting.

Edited: Dec 14, 2018, 10:01am Top

>164 konallis: That's right.

>165 EllsieFind: You're eligible for each daily drawing when you find that day's pear. But the final drawing will only include people who found all 12, each on their proper day.

Edited: Dec 14, 2018, 10:05am Top

Thank you laytonwoman3rd

Dec 14, 2018, 10:08am Top

>71 laytonwoman3rd: Thanks for setting the full solution! I had tried every single variant of 'pear tree' I could think of, as both a tag and a common knowledge location, but I never once tried a variant without the 'tree'.

Of course, I spotted your solution after the 24-hour window closed, but ah well.

Dec 14, 2018, 10:09am Top

Today's was almost a give-away. After all the trouble I had yesterday I appreciated it!

Edited: Dec 14, 2018, 10:18am Top

>162 EllsieFind: >164 konallis: >166 laytonwoman3rd: In the original post of this thread it states "If you miss a day, that’s okay! You can still find the pear(s) on subsequent days—everyone has until Dec. 31st to find as many pears as they can. On the 31st, we’ll award one lucky winner who’s found all 12 pears with a LibraryThing tote bag!"

"You can still find the pear(s) on subsequent days" That clearly implies that you are eligible for the final drawing regardless of what day the pear is found on. The only place where it states that you must find them on a specific day is in reference to the daily drawings.

Edited: Dec 14, 2018, 10:20am Top

>134 Kristelh:

For today, try both singing the 2nd Day of Christmas, then go to GOOGLE for Best Western tv series until you find the same word.

Dec 14, 2018, 10:29am Top

My shockingly efficient tactic on the basis of the most shallow understanding of the clue: 1) site search "Western", 2) click "tags" from left search bar, 3) click first book in the resulting display.

Dec 14, 2018, 10:46am Top

Is Saturday's clue going to be written in French?

Monday's will use Gold lettering that will be oh so great on the eyes on white - NOT!

Dec 14, 2018, 10:48am Top

Love this hunt! I also kind of like the clue a day, since I usually spend hours trying to solve all of them the first day in previous versions.

General advice for new hunters: Always remember the theme of a given hunt: Pirate, Halloween, Easter, or in this case 12 days. Also, different webPAGES in LT are typically featured. Clues can refer to books for many different age groups or their authors (I mistakenly thought of a children's book for today).

Happy hunting!

Dec 14, 2018, 10:49am Top

Comment on the second one:

"...lying treaties..."

Really? You can't put this sort of thing aside for A COUPLE OF DAYS during the holiday season?

Dec 14, 2018, 10:51am Top

This is my first time playing the hunt: yesterday took forever before I figured out if you’re supposed to click on anything on the page, go to another page & click sth there 🤣😂 ... but by George she’s finally got it. Today took 2 minutes. Fun pairing clues & pared fruit. 🍐 Looking fwd to tomorrow’s clues!

Dec 14, 2018, 10:52am Top

>175 Carnophile:

It's called "history"

Dec 14, 2018, 10:55am Top

I seem to be having some trouble getting my pears to count. I can go to the correct page for the first pear, I get the banner at the top saying I've found a pear, but when I go to check my basket it's not counted. It counted the second pear as soon as I found it, however.

It should still show as a found pear even though I found it the next day, right?

Dec 14, 2018, 11:02am Top

I found the second pair but only by using the spoilers.....I still can't find the first pear. I, too, am unfamiliar with a lot of pages on LT. I don't know what a common knowledge page is or how to get to "work" pages which I've heard of. I don't spend a lot of time here. Also when you get a list of books in a search you have to click on each one to eliminate it and then go to individual pages for that book? It takes a lot of time which I think I'd rather spend reading a book. I like challenges and I'm going to keep trying, but it sure is difficult for me.

Dec 14, 2018, 11:05am Top

>177 lilithcat: It's called "history"

So the answer to my question in 175 is "No."

Dec 14, 2018, 11:08am Top

> 179 Go back and read some of the spoilers. It took me time but i finally got it. Good luck.

Edited: Dec 14, 2018, 11:13am Top

So I didn't have a chance to come back (after searching for the wrong thing for quite a while! ;p) last night and missed yesterday's pear... But I found it this morning. The page said I found a pear, but for a previous clue. Then I found today's pear. But my basket only has 1 pear. Am I still getting credit for the 1st day's pear (for all-12-pears purposes - see >115 lorannen:) even though it's not showing in my basket? (see also >119 caras_galadhon: >120 the_red_shoes:)

Dec 14, 2018, 11:16am Top

I managed to find this one right away, though I think the only reason I found it so easily is because the series was mentioned on the Bill Corbett's Funhouse podcast a few weeks ago.

Dec 14, 2018, 11:31am Top

>179 bcrowl399: When you do a search a whole column comes up on the left hand side of the results. Those are various other places you can go on the site. Common knowledge is there, work pages are there, etc. Browse around. The scavenger hunt aside, there is a lot to discover.

Dec 14, 2018, 11:39am Top

>172 paradoxosalpha: - That was my method at the first attempt. I was surprised it worked so well.

Dec 14, 2018, 11:51am Top

>170 Zoes_Human: That is my understanding as well. If you find all of the pears by the end of the 12 days, you'll be entered into the LT tote bag drawing. However, to be eligible for the daily drawing, you need to have found the pear on the day of the clue.

Dec 14, 2018, 11:53am Top

>175 Carnophile: I don't get what the problem is. Lying treaties - doesn't that have to do with Islam? Isn't Islam where the Muslim faith is? Don't they celebrate Ramadan, not Christmas? We are nowhere near Ramadan right now. Their calendar is different than ours - I want to say shorter - and so while Ramadan was near Christmas when we had the Kosovo attacks in 1998, it's not near Xmas now. Actually, I looked, and at this point in time, it's in the Spring the next few years, and it starts up on my next birthday in early May.

So if Ramadan started in Mid-May in 2018, and in Early May in 2019, what is the issue with "Lying Treaties"? It's not their "Holiday Season", if I understand Muslim correctly, which I make no claim to be an expert of the Muslim faith, and so I apologize if what I said is incorrect.

Dec 14, 2018, 11:56am Top

I solved this one very quickly, but initially I had absolutely no idea at all. The trick was to Google uva uvam vivendo varia fit.

Dec 14, 2018, 11:58am Top

>187 ChessFanatic:

Lying treaties - doesn't that have to do with Islam?

No, it's a reference to the treaties the U.S. government made with the Native American nations.

Dec 14, 2018, 12:02pm Top

>188 CurrerBell: Yep, that's what I did.

Dec 14, 2018, 12:04pm Top

I'm also getting the message that my first pear isn't being counted. Can we get an official answer on this?

Dec 14, 2018, 12:08pm Top

>152 lilithcat: Yep--already have a guess about what tomorrow's might be. :)

Dec 14, 2018, 12:11pm Top

yes finally found the pear for day 1......even though it doesn't count, I'm glad I found it.....

Dec 14, 2018, 12:22pm Top

>192 Marissa_Doyle: Oh, yeah, I get it! The lyrics.

Edited: Dec 14, 2018, 4:39pm Top

>189 lilithcat: Hmmm...That's weird. If I do a search on the internet for "Lying Treaties", 99% of the results deal with Islam, hence why I thought the comment was about Islam.

But you know what? If it is about the corruption of the US Government, I say YAY! The government has been corrupt by the Republicans since North Carolina Republicans came up with this stupid idea of scamming elections in 2016, and many other states have since followed suit, including ND, KS, WI, MI, GA, FL, MS, and even NC again with District 9 (which is the district I live in, and no, I didn't vote for that schmuck that leads by 905 votes - I went the other way and now wonder what they have my vote as being!)

Dec 14, 2018, 12:26pm Top

>104 VivienneR: me too. I think having read the book and watched the movie made the clue pop out at me.

Dec 14, 2018, 12:29pm Top

>195 ChessFanatic:

A good anecdotal demonstration of the fact that search-engine access to the Internet is no substitute for contextual reading and historical understanding.

Dec 14, 2018, 12:37pm Top

OK, are some of the messages in this thread people posting in a VERY wrong place, or do we have a bug going?

Dec 14, 2018, 12:39pm Top

Two for two! I got the second one after being distracted by part of the clue Clint and then I thought wider. Major AHA moment when the answer came to me.
I'm having a blast!

Dec 14, 2018, 12:47pm Top

When you keep the overall theme in mind, it doesn't take long to figure out the clue for day 2. I solved it much faster than clue 1, thank goodness!

Dec 14, 2018, 12:52pm Top

Google is my friend. I googled the last line in the clue and got it on the first try.

Dec 14, 2018, 12:57pm Top

Hey everyone, thanks for all your responses here! A few things:

1. Yeah, we see the issue where your basket isn't filling up yesterday's pear even if you find it. We're looking into that. Apologies—this is the first time we've done a day-by-day hunt and there are a couple kinks to work out.

2. Sorry site search went down. We're looking into extending time for today's pear because it wasn't down for just a few minutes and we want to be fair.

3. To clarify, the daily prize drawing (coasters) is for those who get the pear of the day. To to eligible for the end prize drawing (tote bag), all you have to do is find 12 pears, no daily time restraint. You could wait until day 12 (or really any time before Dec 31st) and find all 12 on that day, if you wanted.

Dec 14, 2018, 12:59pm Top

>202 kjgormley: Thanks for the clarifications!

Lovely clues, as usual :-)

Dec 14, 2018, 1:28pm Top

I would say today's clue is a bit misleading as the TV show is actually a TV miniseries. At first I thought it was referencing Gunsmoke.

Dec 14, 2018, 1:33pm Top

>204 emilyesears: I thought the same but suspected the correct answer was not the TV show you mentioned due to the holiday theme for the second day of Christmas.

Edited: Dec 14, 2018, 2:20pm Top

Further updates!
1. We've fixed the issue where people weren't able to find pears from previous days and have them stay in their basket. This should work going forward. Thanks for your patience as we rolled this new hunt configuration out. Unfortunately, if you found day 1's pear earlier today, you'll need to go back to that page to recollect it.

(>113 sdbookhound: >119 caras_galadhon: >120 the_red_shoes: >143 Zoes_Human: >150 Zoes_Human: >162 EllsieFind: >178 Kanst: >182 avanders: >191 Morphidae: >193 bcrowl399:)

2. Re: site search and fair timing. Day 2's pear is eligible for the daily drawing for coasters until 6AM EST tomorrow. Day 3's pear will become available at midnight EST as usual.

(>139 SandyAMcPherson: >154 lilithcat:)

And in general, yes I did tie each day's clue to the corresponding number in the song. Sometimes in a very obvious way, sometimes less so.

Edited: Dec 14, 2018, 2:19pm Top

>202 kjgormley:/>206 kjgormley: Thank you for clarifying!

Dec 14, 2018, 2:23pm Top

Like others, the "the older you are, the more you might know" part of the clue threw me down blind alleys - you're probably better off disregarding it, since it will lead you to things that are actually really old as opposed to kinda-sorta old.

Edited: Dec 14, 2018, 2:33pm Top

>208 lorax: I guess my view is coming from the fact that the miniseries came out before I was born! (Yes, everyone else on staff makes jokes about me being young).

Dec 14, 2018, 2:32pm Top

>206 kjgormley: Thank you so much for the fun game, hard work, and updates!

Dec 14, 2018, 2:36pm Top

kjgormley #209:

I'd have accepted a reference to the show being old, but the specific phrasing implies extreme age to me (that or you can't imagine anyone over the age of, say, 40 might be using LT, so that you think even the oldest users would view the 1980s as dim in the recesses of the past.)

Edited: Dec 14, 2018, 2:40pm Top

Congratulations are in order to LT member Amberfly—the lucky winner of our first set of coasters!

Amberfly won the drawing after finding yesterday's pear.

Dec 14, 2018, 3:11pm Top

>206 kjgormley: Thank you so much! My pear appeared. Thanks for all fun clues. Looking forward to tomorrow.

Dec 14, 2018, 3:31pm Top

>211 lorax: Some years back, my now twentysomething nephew handed me a penny he found on the kitchen floor. "It's really old --1982!" Stuff that happens before we were born might as well be a zillion years ago, or at least until we've got about half a century under our belts. I remind myself that Singing in the Rain -- which came out when I was a child -- is set in 1927, which was a scant 25 years before the movie was made. That would be the equivalent of making a movie about 1993 today; people of a certain age wouldn't think it was about the Olden Days, but Those Kids™ will classify it with the biblical epics.

But I digress. Carry on, all!

Dec 14, 2018, 3:41pm Top

PhaedraB (#214):

(about "Singing in the Rain")

That would be the equivalent of making a movie about 1993 today; people of a certain age wouldn't think it was about the Olden Days, but Those Kids™ will classify it with the biblical epics.

Hmm. That's an interesting case, since the movie was clearly About The Past when it was made, and it's clearly About The Past now, but what tends to get lost is that it was *always* about the past; that difference of 25 years gets lost when it's been 60+ years since the movie was released.

It's inexplicably not actually on the chart, but it's a good example of what this XKCD calls "former period pieces", where "Modern audiences may not recognize what parts were supposed to sound old".

Dec 14, 2018, 3:54pm Top

>215 lorax: That's hilarious because Gunsmoke smack in the middle of the chart is where my mind went when I first read today's clue.

Dec 14, 2018, 3:56pm Top

>215 lorax: Yeah, I teach Victorian literature, and it's easy to think George Eliot was writing about her own era, but Middlemarch takes place 40 years in the past, and Adam Bede 60! But given the books were written 150 years ago, that time difference fades.

Dec 14, 2018, 4:19pm Top

>216 SuziQoregon: I also toyed with Rin Tin Tin, Wagon Train, Have Gun Will Travel, Roy Rogers, Gene Autry, and others. I'm really dating myself.

Dec 14, 2018, 4:36pm Top

>218 mamzel: Definitely interesting to me to learn some of you are from my era (or at least watched TV from back then).

>215 lorax: >217 Stevil2001: What a fascinating thing to think about - it never crossed my mind before now.

Edited: Dec 14, 2018, 4:38pm Top

>216 SuziQoregon: You aren't the only one where Gunsmoke was amongst the first things to come to mind. Bonanza was my first, but Gunsmoke was soon after that.

Dec 14, 2018, 4:55pm Top

>220 ChessFanatic: My total lack of knowledge about westerns was a big help here. The correct answer just jumped out at me. It was mentioned recently in a talk topic and that was the only time I've ever heard of it. In this case, getting the pear was just sheer luck!

Dec 14, 2018, 5:02pm Top

For a nanosecond I thought Clint-must be Rawhide. Rowdy Yates-how's that for dating yourself!

Dec 14, 2018, 5:07pm Top

See, I started on Day 2 and figured out the clue and got the pear in one click. That's part of the reason why Day 1 was so frustrating to me! I actually did Day 1 second and had to read all the explicit spoilers to finally find it. Pear #2 was so much easier!

Dec 14, 2018, 6:17pm Top

I started with Gunsmoke, then Rawhide and The Virginian. Then I read the clue more carefully! Easy when you do that and remember the song.

Edited: Dec 14, 2018, 7:02pm Top

Westerns are not my main area of interest in anyway. But I do have one favorite that I will watch and will DVR from when I get in that mood. Its LIW - Minnesota . Unless I'm not looking in the right place for that one. But to me its the only Beloved series to come out of that genre. There are favorites but truly loved to me there is just the one I put up in my spoiler.

I'm not finding the pear.

Edited: Dec 14, 2018, 7:09pm Top

Today’s clue was much easier. Google the foreign phrase.

Dec 14, 2018, 7:13pm Top

>222 perennialreader: I checked Rawhide first.

Dec 14, 2018, 7:18pm Top

My family did not have a TV until I went to college so I am really dating myself. I worked at a drive-in theater and we showed Blackboard Jungle, which will be on TV tonight on TCM, when I was a Junior in high school. Have fun with this challenge.

Dec 14, 2018, 7:37pm Top

Finally, being a librarian helped me find one of these clues... (I put this one away so many times as a page in my youth).

Dec 14, 2018, 8:03pm Top

>218 mamzel: Remember Hopalong Cassidy or The Cisco Kid? Those were my favorites!

Dec 14, 2018, 8:23pm Top

I'm not that old, but I too looked for Gunsmoke and Bonanza before this one.

Dec 14, 2018, 10:15pm Top

'If you find all of the pears by the end of the 12 days, you'll be entered into the LT tote bag drawing. However, to be eligible for the daily drawing, you need to have found the pear on the day of the clue.'

I thought it was the opposite? I found the first pear on the second day but it doesn't count for me.

Dec 14, 2018, 10:17pm Top

>kjgormley Thank you very much!

Dec 14, 2018, 10:18pm Top


'That's hilarious because Gunsmoke smack in the middle of the chart is where my mind went when I first read today's clue'

THANK GOD NOT JUST ME (also thought of Bonanza. Why, brain)

Dec 14, 2018, 10:30pm Top

I've never been a big fan of westerns, but the show in question was enough of a "thing" when it was aired that I thought of it right away.

Dec 14, 2018, 10:50pm Top

The Clint reference did stall me for a moment, but my current brain could not come up with the show he was in so I didn't waste time with it.

Dec 14, 2018, 11:27pm Top

>157 perennialreader: That's what I did. Almost too easy that way!

Dec 14, 2018, 11:34pm Top

>232 the_red_shoes: Go back and read the comments on >206 kjgormley:. It's been fixed, but you'll have to go find it again.

Edited: Dec 15, 2018, 12:04am Top

Woo-hoo! I'm breaking my arm patting myself on the back for this one (third pear). I started it at precisely midnight and had the answer in less than three minutes.

Dec 15, 2018, 12:04am Top

Woo, hoo! Found the 3rd pear! Now I have to wait 24 more hours.

Dec 15, 2018, 12:05am Top

First thing I thought of was right! Have my third pear. This is the only time I've not had to struggle like crazy to find the loot/prize/etc. :)

Dec 15, 2018, 12:06am Top

>239 CurrerBell: good going!

Dec 15, 2018, 12:07am Top

And the third pear is live! Happy gathering, everyone. I will be checking in with this thread throughout the day, but more lightly as it *is* a weekend here. Bonne chance!

(Remember, you can still go find pears one and two for credit for the final tote bag drawing.)

Edited: Dec 15, 2018, 12:11am Top

>242 EllsieFind: You did just as well! (ETA: And so have you, >241 SandyAMcPherson:.)

Dec 15, 2018, 12:10am Top

Knew the answer right off. Just had to hit Google to make sure I got the spelling right!

Dec 15, 2018, 12:13am Top

Didn't get it right away (I tried a few times without even reading the clue, just for fun) but I just clicked my way through some noteworthy French books and authors and managed to sniff it out.

Dec 15, 2018, 12:14am Top

Well, I hesitate to mention how many old shows I tried before I came up with the correct one, but I did try every show so far mentioned.
Today's was easy, though!

And I also appreciate the one clue a day pacing, as it keeps me from staying up late trying to get all the clues.

Dec 15, 2018, 12:22am Top

Well that took some searching but finally found it!

Dec 15, 2018, 12:40am Top

My first choice drew a blank but the second was successful in getting my third pear!

The downside is that now I have to wait until tomorrow night for the next clue.

Dec 15, 2018, 1:11am Top

Well, I have gotten day 2. Day 3 came pretty quickly. But I still cant find Day 1.

Scratching my head and feeling frustrated. Oh well, off to bed in a few minutes.

Dec 15, 2018, 1:39am Top

Day three came easily. Wonder what day four will be...

Dec 15, 2018, 1:42am Top

For some reason, I drew a blank for pear 3. But whew! I found it. I feel so silly now!

Edited: Dec 15, 2018, 2:06am Top

>250 wd40sw:
It is as simple as what we are collecting. Each day you get a ----

Edited: Dec 15, 2018, 2:31am Top

First try correct for pear three

Edited: Dec 15, 2018, 11:00am Top

>250 wd40sw:
>253 lowelibrary: The Xmas carol reference worked better for me.

Pear #3 -- I got it quickly once I realized it was NOT 1932 (d'oh).

Dec 15, 2018, 4:09am Top

I googled musical 1932, and didn’t find anything française. 😳

Edited: Dec 15, 2018, 4:56am Top

It's not 1932. The novel takes place from 1805 to 1832.

The book was published in 1862. There were films in 1934 and 1935 (as well as later).

Googling musical 1832 might help.

Dec 15, 2018, 5:00am Top

I searched his other brick first, then realised it must be the other one, bingo!

Edited: Dec 15, 2018, 5:10am Top

Thank you, laytonwoman3rd. I would have wasted precious time and still been clueless without your very specific solution.

Dec 15, 2018, 6:33am Top

Today's was great. I got it with the brick so big you could smash a window with it. I have a distinct memory of having purchased this book when I was in high school because it was the thickest one I could find at the store, and I needed a book that would last me more than one or two days.

Dec 15, 2018, 7:04am Top

I guess I am too young being in my 40s and having the internet come about in my late teens and dealing with social media my entire adult life and thinking it had to be North and South by John Jakes because people I knew through social media often referred to long, unreadable posts as rewritings of North and South, but alas, not it and back to the drawing board trying to find it.

Dec 15, 2018, 7:10am Top

>261 ChessFanatic: For me, long and unreadable is War and Peace. It actually took me an entire fortnight one summer in my late teens to plough my way through (I'd often go to the library every couple of days during the summer holidays).

Dec 15, 2018, 7:20am Top

Got it with my second choice.

Dec 15, 2018, 7:21am Top

> 262 Interesting. Longest book I ever read was It by Stephen King as I did not read The Stand.

That said, once I saw the year reference, I did a search and stumbled upon it luckily.

Let's just say the author's last name is the same name as a Mascot's name in the NBA and the name of a major hurricane that went right through the city that said NBA team plays their home games at in 1989!

Dec 15, 2018, 7:36am Top

I read this book in high school. It took me a whole summer and I only recall one scene in it - mostly because the author broke off a chase scene to give a long essay on the customs and history of the nunnery the chased man had ended up in the garden of. Don't know who was being chased or by whom or why. Just that in the middle of it were pages about the order, the house, the individual nuns...

Edited: Dec 15, 2018, 8:44am Top

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Edited: Dec 15, 2018, 8:47am Top

Hey all, could you maybe put {spoiler} {/spoiler} tags (but with the greater than less than carrots on either side instead of the parens) even on the stuff that's not directly an answer i.e. the wrong answers when they're being talked about too?

That's still sorta giving out the answer to anyone who wants to play for real without help (I am not one of those people, but, and by some weird thing I've gotten all three on my own, but, there are people out there who want to do it sans help).

Just a thought.

Dec 15, 2018, 9:04am Top

How I found clue #3:
I googled June 32 France, went to the Wikipedia page and looked at the references, found a likely candidate, and searched for that on LT.

Dec 15, 2018, 9:12am Top

These are always so much fun! Found all three so far. Seems I'm on a bit of a roll :-D

Dec 15, 2018, 9:27am Top

Got #3 as soon as I read the clue, but I'd been hoping it would be Mastering the Art of French Cooking so as to tie into "three French hens" for the Twelve Days theme--didn't Child initially work on the book with two other women?

Dec 15, 2018, 10:42am Top

Yay for today’s being easy.

Dec 15, 2018, 10:54am Top

From the last line I thought they were going for the name of the author, but my second guess was the book which got me the pear.

Dec 15, 2018, 11:14am Top

I knew the author, but couldn't think of the name of the book.......finally got it, though. This game seems a little less complicated than previous ones, which I actually like. Since it's Christmas time, I don't want to have to overthink it.

Dec 15, 2018, 11:23am Top

Also I learned what a "tagmash" is and I've begun exploring some of the other pages available so the mission for game is being accomplished as well. Thank you LT for this! A great Christmas present for the members!

Edited: Dec 15, 2018, 11:52am Top

>215 lorax:

If you are missing hearing "Singing in the Rain," our local Kroger spin-off store plays it EVERY DAY OFTEN.

Reading Comments on this Thread has been almost as much fun as searching for Clues!

Dec 15, 2018, 12:02pm Top

rastaphrog (#235):

I'm young enough that however big of a "thing" the show was it didn't register, but not old enough that the 1980s seem "ancient", so when I reached for "ancient" I went too far back.

Dec 15, 2018, 12:15pm Top

I didn't have to google anything for clue 3. I knew what I was looking for as soon as I read the clue. I almost second guessed myself but went for it. I am loving this!!

Dec 15, 2018, 12:39pm Top

>268 wester: I did just about the same thing. Except I Googled June 1862 for which there is a Wikipedia page with the answer directly mentioned..


One thing I'm not sure of is how it relates to "calling birds." Oh, wait. Three is "French hens"?

Dec 15, 2018, 12:56pm Top

>278 Morphidae: Ah, nice. I hadn't noticed that. Thanks!

Dec 15, 2018, 1:09pm Top

Dec 15, 2018, 2:38pm Top

>267 DanieXJ: Thanks! I was also going to make a similar comment reminding people to use spoiler tags!

Dec 15, 2018, 3:42pm Top

As it happens I've got the soundtrack for the musical in my car right now, and read the other work they're referring to several times as a kid. So this one came to me straight away. An enjoyable riddle.

Dec 15, 2018, 4:08pm Top

Wow... Found yesterday's and todays pear without looking here first :)

Dec 15, 2018, 5:20pm Top

'We call it “the brick” because it’s so thick'

LOL FINALLY one I got right off!

Edited: Dec 15, 2018, 8:48pm Top

Got it on my first guess. I just thought of books taking place in France as thick as it is wide, and put into other formats.

Dec 15, 2018, 9:02pm Top

I found it pretty quickly too, but couldn't find the pear announcement so I went back and forth all day until I finally realized exactly where it was. Oh, would that I were clever…

Dec 15, 2018, 9:45pm Top

That was my first thought when I read the 'brick' line - until I kept reading!

Dec 15, 2018, 9:46pm Top

That would have been a great one! Yes, she worked on the book with two French women, so would have fitted perfectly!

Dec 15, 2018, 11:38pm Top

>278 Morphidae:

"French hens" is what I started with as my history is terrible. I searched the event and then started clicking books and authors. Got it on the third try. Three hens after all I guess. ;)

The second clue I also started with Bonanza but only because it don't follow westerns and had no idea what might have been on TV but that was one of them. Of course, as soon as I thought back to the song I got it right away (and smacked myself in the head for not doing that first). Don't know the series, but know the book. (Or rather, the horse. ;))

Dec 16, 2018, 12:06am Top

Got the fourth pear! 🍐 😊

Dec 16, 2018, 12:14am Top

Took me a minute as I couldn't remember the name of the book! Found it now!

Dec 16, 2018, 12:19am Top

Fourth pear is up! Good luck on this one. If we're having struggles throughout the day I'll start hinting, but I have confidence in you!

Side note: the winners for days two and three will be picked on Monday some time, as the developer who pulls that username is enjoying their weekend.

Edited: Dec 16, 2018, 12:24am Top

>291 JayneCM: Me too. Couldn’t quite remember that name this late at night. Finally remembered and got my pear.

Dec 16, 2018, 12:24am Top

Got #4 straight away (no pun intended)

Dec 16, 2018, 12:28am Top

So, looked at the clue, did some Googling. Led me to Aosta, Italy which led me (possibly) to St Anselm, and then I get lost.

Dec 16, 2018, 12:31am Top

I have an idea of what I am looking for but all that I have clicked have not led me to the pear....

Dec 16, 2018, 12:36am Top

Four pears! I'm going to be offline for a few nights and will miss the next pears :(

Looking forward to catching up :)

Dec 16, 2018, 12:47am Top

>295 rastaphrog: It's a book page. The film of it came out last year and won an Oscar for best adapted screenplay.

Dec 16, 2018, 12:51am Top

OK, that clue got it for me!

Dec 16, 2018, 12:52am Top

The second last line is the clue to the name of the book.

Dec 16, 2018, 1:06am Top

Got it!

Dec 16, 2018, 1:26am Top

(Only just starting the hunt today) The first clue was weirdly difficult, thank you to those who gave excellent hints! Once I got the hang of it, I managed to find the other pears on my own. This is a fun game!

Edited: Dec 16, 2018, 1:45am Top

If you have no clue (same as me) use a tagmash

Dec 16, 2018, 1:57am Top

>294 lilithcat: Puns are always intended! But thanks for that one. A chuckle at 2 in the morning is sweet!

Dec 16, 2018, 2:11am Top

I think I need to wait for more clues tomorrow... Unless I want to start googling things!

Dec 16, 2018, 2:14am Top

>298 amanda4242: I googled this. Thank you! I've never heard of it, so never would have figured it out!

Dec 16, 2018, 3:36am Top

Got pear four.

Dec 16, 2018, 4:01am Top

I'm absolutely stumped by #3. I've been googling, combing the Wikipedia page mentioned, coming up with nada. On the other hand, #4 was an immediate hit, so that was reassuring.

Edited: Dec 16, 2018, 4:36am Top

>308 stringcat3: And I went straight to #3, but #4 I don't even know where to start.

Got it. Thank you >298 amanda4242:

Dec 16, 2018, 6:29am Top

Got #4 with help. Thanks.

Edited: Dec 16, 2018, 6:35am Top

>309 MarthaJeanne: I was with you on #4 - I had no idea. Quite apart from anything I had heard of neither version of the work, and even if I had, I would not have associated it with the theme. (Neither are to my taste.) . Oddly, I was going down the M R James route for that answer.

In any case, I know the older version of the theme better than the version being used which obviates the connection.

Edited: Dec 16, 2018, 6:44am Top

>298 amanda4242: Thank you, this got me there!

Dec 16, 2018, 7:13am Top

I found #4 without trouble, but only because I remembered the trailer of the movie. Else I don't know where I would have started. Andwhereas the second to last line is a clue, it can definitely put you on the wrong foot as well.

Dec 16, 2018, 7:21am Top

>298 amanda4242: - thanks, never heard of it before. Had no idea what the clue meant at all. Was looking at Medici feuds and michaelangelo from the statues.

Dec 16, 2018, 8:02am Top

Happy dance! 4 pears in my basket :0)

Edited: Dec 16, 2018, 8:47am Top

I'd never heard of #4 either, but I found it on my first try with the help of Google. The third line and last line provided all the clues needed to find this with Google.

Dec 16, 2018, 8:48am Top

#4 was unknown to me totally. cheated with spoilers...;) I kept thinking Evelyn Waugh.

Dec 16, 2018, 9:15am Top

>317 majkia: I started down the Wilde route, similar thought process, I suspect.

Dec 16, 2018, 9:28am Top

Thanks for this!

Dec 16, 2018, 10:27am Top

>317 majkia: Heh, me too...

Dec 16, 2018, 11:05am Top

I had to use google for this one....I had never heard of it, but now I'd like to read this book. Thanks LT!

Dec 16, 2018, 11:12am Top

I never heard of this one, but it was the very first book listed on the first tagmash I thought to try.

Dec 16, 2018, 11:25am Top

#4 is really good, I recommend it wholeheartedly. I must say, though, that it's impossible to guess if you haven't heard about it. Then Google is your friend.

Dec 16, 2018, 11:43am Top

Tagmash saved the day for me, would not have found it otherwise

Dec 16, 2018, 12:40pm Top

Got today's fairly easily, but only thanks to my daughter's having read it recently and talked to me about it. So shout out to lycomayflower for keeping Mom in the game!

Dec 16, 2018, 12:50pm Top

I took three words suggested by the clue and googled them. That gave me the correct answer, otherwise I was lost. I've never heard of it before.

Dec 16, 2018, 12:54pm Top

I tried using clues and hints, but finally found it by Duck Duck Go. Never heard of it, or the movie.

Dec 16, 2018, 1:09pm Top

This suggestion may get lost here, but I was thinking it would be nice to have a new thread for each day's clue.

Dec 16, 2018, 1:28pm Top

>328 MrsLee:

Good idea.

This thread is getting very long and slow to load.

Dec 16, 2018, 1:43pm Top

#323 anglemark > I was totally leading myself astray, thinking the clue was referring to Oscar Wilde. When all my clicking around in related memes was done (with no apparent success), I went back to my open "12 Days of LibraryThing" tab and had a fourth pear! Haven't any idea how I stumbled across the right page.

Dec 16, 2018, 2:09pm Top

>309 MarthaJeanne: SOoo, howsabout a hint for #3? I went through the few Spoilers posted, but they aren't helpful at all.

Dec 16, 2018, 2:14pm Top

331stringcat3 > think of a really famous, long-playing stage musical that's not American.

Dec 16, 2018, 2:17pm Top

>331 stringcat3: do you hear the people sing, singing the song of angry men...

Dec 16, 2018, 2:18pm Top

Dec 16, 2018, 2:18pm Top

>329 lilithcat: I'd gladly program and continue the discussion to a page #2, but for the time. I just don't have it to spare today, and maybe not tomorrow.

Dec 16, 2018, 2:21pm Top

>298 amanda4242: That really helped me. Thanks!

I just couldn't figure it out last night. I never heard of that....

Dec 16, 2018, 2:23pm Top

>331 stringcat3: I gave a hint at >257 MarthaJeanne:. There is a similar one at >268 wester:. Either one should give you the answer already on the google page.

Dec 16, 2018, 2:39pm Top

#4 was the hardest for me so far because like >327 fuzzi:, the movie was unfamiliar to me. Thanks for the various hints above.

Dec 16, 2018, 2:48pm Top

Another one here who has never heard of either the book or the movie. Thanks for the clues.

Dec 16, 2018, 2:59pm Top

>298 amanda4242: Thanks! I got the first three rather quickly (#3 just about three minutes after its midnight posting), but I would never have had any idea about #4. I'm just not that into current-day films.

Dec 16, 2018, 3:22pm Top

I don't know current movies either, and if I've heard of them, it's the German titles - not always recognizable.

Dec 16, 2018, 3:27pm Top

See, there's the value of mindless TV watching; I saw ads for #4.

Dec 16, 2018, 3:52pm Top

Hey everyone: we're continuing this discussion in a new thread » over here

Dec 22, 2018, 6:40pm Top

I've clicked on every damn book titled Partridge in a Pear Tree and haven't found the pear for day 1. I've moved on and found other pears, but want to find this one. Plus, I have a hard time navigating to various kinds of pages. Care to give me some help?

Dec 22, 2018, 7:01pm Top

Thanks! I had already found a bunch of pears for other days, but kept coming back to Day 1 and couldn't get it. I tried every possible book, every type of page, etc. I had even clicked on tags etc. but not the particular word once on the tag page. Day 1 was NOT fun. Too tedious. And I still don't feel I better understand how to navigate all types of pages on LT. Only consolation is this talk thread. Thx again.

Dec 22, 2018, 7:17pm Top

>344 CarlisleMLH: Day 1 is a tag page. The word is the type of fruit you get when you find the correct answer. To find the appropriate page search for the word, click on the Tags link on the left-hand side of the page, and then click on the appropriate word.

Edited: Jan 7, 2019, 11:10am Top

-> 216 I went as far as googling "classic TV westerns" and typing in every show. I *really* thought it would be "Little House on the Prairie" but it wasn't. :( I found it finally by googling the latin text. Bingo! :)

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