Combining/Separating (Please Fix This Book!) Request Thread #8
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1skittles
This thread is for LT'ers or thingamabrarians, or members, or their designees, to post combining or separating problems with their books.
**If a book has been combined with a book that is extremely different from the original.
**If a book won't combine with the other books just like it.
**There is a problem with the entry & it is just too overwhelming to deal with.
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It has been suggested many times that there be a single thread for LT'ers to post combining & separating problems so that;
** they can learn how to do it
** they can get help when needed
** just want someone else to do it (usually, they can't understand how to do it... which is normal... or don't have the time)
**and finally, those LT'ers who "enjoy" combining can have a place to look to first to see what fun can be had helping LT be the best place to catalog books.
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WHEN YOU POST:
Please give us HYPERLINKS, not touchstones. Hyperlinks to the pages where the problems exist are much more accurate than a touchstone when there is a problem.
Give us the title & author, plus any other information you think we might need.
Then you can just wait, "and someone will be with you shortly."
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Tim's Guidelines for Proper Etiquette for contacting members about their book records:
"For this topic, I still feel strongly that I'd like to consider it bad form. Many others agree with me. But a few thing I'm dictating and are angry about that. So, fine. Let's just write some guidelines up. I propose that the guidelines be something along the lines of:
*Remember that LibraryThing is used for many different reasons. The way you use and enjoy the site is not necessarily the way others do.
*Be sensitive to how the member is using LibraryThing. Approach members who show no interest in the social side more cautiously.
*Try to provide helpful information and ask questions rather than dictating.
*If the user indicates displeasure at the request, let it drop.
*When in doubt, raise the issue in the Combiners! group before sending a message."
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My note: I would like to add that we should ALWAYS use private comment when we absolutely must contact a LT'er, even when their response isn't private.
and yes, this thread is similar to putting all of our problems together for people to see & say, "oh, no!! LT isn't perfect!!" or "Look at all of the problems that LT has." That isn't the case here. This is a place to gather "challenges" together to make it easier & faster to "fix" them. Let's just remember that "bad" data comes from people... people who make mistakes.. WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES! (ok, there are a couple of perfect people around here) Instead of complaining about the problem, let's fix it.
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When this thread reaches approximately 200 posts, DO NOT POST HERE, but go to POST #9. This thread will be easier to handle if we keep it under 200. (faster loading) Please copy any notes or instructions to the new thread.
Thank you.
Feel free to add comments &/or suggestions... not just "challenges"
**There is also a Combiner's Group Information & Discussion Thread at:
http://www.librarything.com/topic/50653
That thread is for combining information, discussion in general, not for problems....
**If a book has been combined with a book that is extremely different from the original.
**If a book won't combine with the other books just like it.
**There is a problem with the entry & it is just too overwhelming to deal with.
________________________________________...
It has been suggested many times that there be a single thread for LT'ers to post combining & separating problems so that;
** they can learn how to do it
** they can get help when needed
** just want someone else to do it (usually, they can't understand how to do it... which is normal... or don't have the time)
**and finally, those LT'ers who "enjoy" combining can have a place to look to first to see what fun can be had helping LT be the best place to catalog books.
________________________________________...
WHEN YOU POST:
Please give us HYPERLINKS, not touchstones. Hyperlinks to the pages where the problems exist are much more accurate than a touchstone when there is a problem.
Give us the title & author, plus any other information you think we might need.
Then you can just wait, "and someone will be with you shortly."
________________________________________...
Tim's Guidelines for Proper Etiquette for contacting members about their book records:
"For this topic, I still feel strongly that I'd like to consider it bad form. Many others agree with me. But a few thing I'm dictating and are angry about that. So, fine. Let's just write some guidelines up. I propose that the guidelines be something along the lines of:
*Remember that LibraryThing is used for many different reasons. The way you use and enjoy the site is not necessarily the way others do.
*Be sensitive to how the member is using LibraryThing. Approach members who show no interest in the social side more cautiously.
*Try to provide helpful information and ask questions rather than dictating.
*If the user indicates displeasure at the request, let it drop.
*When in doubt, raise the issue in the Combiners! group before sending a message."
________________________________________...
My note: I would like to add that we should ALWAYS use private comment when we absolutely must contact a LT'er, even when their response isn't private.
and yes, this thread is similar to putting all of our problems together for people to see & say, "oh, no!! LT isn't perfect!!" or "Look at all of the problems that LT has." That isn't the case here. This is a place to gather "challenges" together to make it easier & faster to "fix" them. Let's just remember that "bad" data comes from people... people who make mistakes.. WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES! (ok, there are a couple of perfect people around here) Instead of complaining about the problem, let's fix it.
________________________________________...
When this thread reaches approximately 200 posts, DO NOT POST HERE, but go to POST #9. This thread will be easier to handle if we keep it under 200. (faster loading) Please copy any notes or instructions to the new thread.
Thank you.
Feel free to add comments &/or suggestions... not just "challenges"
**There is also a Combiner's Group Information & Discussion Thread at:
http://www.librarything.com/topic/50653
That thread is for combining information, discussion in general, not for problems....
2Avron
Isobelle Carmody wrote a book titled "The Stone Key" (book five in a series) that was then split in two for US publication. Unfortunately for us the second half was also given the title "The Stone Key" and the two of them have been combined.
I think I've cleared it up, and I've added some disambiguation notices, but I'd appreciate somebody else checking that I did it right and that my wording is understandable.
I think I've cleared it up, and I've added some disambiguation notices, but I'd appreciate somebody else checking that I did it right and that my wording is understandable.
3kathrynnd
>> 2 The wording looked fine to me. I added the approx number of pages (1000 pp ) for the complete book, i don't know if that will help to alert members to a problem, it would for me, that's the way my mind works.
Now it's my time for a question. I separated out the title "The Obernewtyn Chronicles book 5: The Stone Key" with the ISBN 0375857729 because that is the ISBN for the Random House 496 p book Chronicles Book 6.
I looked at the book in the catalog of the member with this copy, the book was entered from Amazon.com. Amazon has the correct title, ISBN and publication information for Book 6, so the user must have edited just the title information to match a book in hand. Usually I would keep such a book combined with the work matching the title rather than the ISBN, but in this case....?
What do other combiners do if a combination of a title with the wrong ISBN for the edition might lead to combination messes in the future?
Now it's my time for a question. I separated out the title "The Obernewtyn Chronicles book 5: The Stone Key" with the ISBN 0375857729 because that is the ISBN for the Random House 496 p book Chronicles Book 6.
I looked at the book in the catalog of the member with this copy, the book was entered from Amazon.com. Amazon has the correct title, ISBN and publication information for Book 6, so the user must have edited just the title information to match a book in hand. Usually I would keep such a book combined with the work matching the title rather than the ISBN, but in this case....?
What do other combiners do if a combination of a title with the wrong ISBN for the edition might lead to combination messes in the future?
4kevinashley
> 189 in the last thread.
Ah, so 'twas you, PortiaLong. Thanks for the hard work - the series looks in much better shape now.
Ah, so 'twas you, PortiaLong. Thanks for the hard work - the series looks in much better shape now.
5paulhurtley
>3 kathrynnd: I would combine them. They are the same work, and I don't think this should be an exception.
6yue
What is the consensus on audiobooks? While combining some books by Brian Jacques, I ran across several audiobooks - instead of the whole work, each was only a section. I think they should they be combined, but I wanted to get other opinions first.
http://www.librarything.com/work/4641843
http://www.librarything.com/work/2687382
http://www.librarything.com/work/2687390
http://www.librarything.com/work/4641843
http://www.librarything.com/work/2687382
http://www.librarything.com/work/2687390
7Aerrin99
Anne McCaffrey's page needs some serious work - there are a number of singletons there. I've gone through and done some of them, but definitely don't have time to do them all. I think there's some separating to be done there too, but that's another ballgame and will take a more careful eye!
http://www.librarything.com/author/mccaffreyanne
I got started down this road after trying to touchstone All the Weyrs of Pern and finding All the Weyers of Pern - I have no idea how to get these two books combined - they're the same book, honest!
Could someone more combining-savy do it/let me know how it might be done?
http://www.librarything.com/work/18521
http://www.librarything.com/work/5409055
http://www.librarything.com/author/mccaffreyanne
I got started down this road after trying to touchstone All the Weyrs of Pern and finding All the Weyers of Pern - I have no idea how to get these two books combined - they're the same book, honest!
Could someone more combining-savy do it/let me know how it might be done?
http://www.librarything.com/work/18521
http://www.librarything.com/work/5409055
8yue
The entire Harry Potter series has been translated into Latin, and as a disambiguation noticed informed me (while combining a French edition), ancient language editions are not combined with modern language editions.
What precisely is the philosophy behind this when the modern language is the original and the ancient language is a translation?
What precisely is the philosophy behind this when the modern language is the original and the ancient language is a translation?
9Nicole_VanK
>8 yue:: It's about the connections. The idea behind it is that people reading Harry Potter (or anything else) in a dead language would basically be better served by recommendations about other books in dead languages than other Harry Potter books.
p.s.: I agree the whole "dead language exception rule" thing is debatable.
p.s.: I agree the whole "dead language exception rule" thing is debatable.
10jjwilson61
8> A French person probably reads the French translation because they just want to read the story and they should be connected to others who have bought the book in any living language. But people reading Harry Potter in Latin are probably reading it that way because they are learning Latin or they study Latin and they should be connected with other Latin scholars not Harry Potter enthusiasts.
11vintage_books
Message 186: PortiaLong said:
>185 PortiaLong: - done, these were combinable on the author's combine/separate page.
Not sure what this is, can you please point me toward information/directions?
>185 PortiaLong: - done, these were combinable on the author's combine/separate page.
Not sure what this is, can you please point me toward information/directions?
12Nicole_VanK
> 11 When you click an author's name you are taken to a page dedicated to that author. On it you find - amongst other things - a link that is called "combine/separate" which leads you to a new page where you can either combine or separate books / works by that author. Here you'll often find other language editions, books entered without ISBN (or with a different one), etc.
13vintage_books
> 12
Thank you
Thank you
14prosfilaes
>8 yue: Because translations of modern works into ancient languages are done solely for an audience of language geeks; many of the people who own the Cat in the Hat own Hop on Pop and I Can Read With My Eyes Shut!, but the people who own Cattus petasatus : The cat in the hat in Latin own Quomodo Invidiosulus Nomine Grinchus Christi Natalem Abrogaverit: How the Grinch Stole Christmas in Latin and The Latin Sexual Vocabulary.
>9 Nicole_VanK: I think this is the strongest example of why the dead language exception exists. Owners of translations into ancient languages overlap with the owners of the originals as little as or less than any two random works. Even if the dead language exception went away, I'd support an exception for translation into dead languages.
>9 Nicole_VanK: I think this is the strongest example of why the dead language exception exists. Owners of translations into ancient languages overlap with the owners of the originals as little as or less than any two random works. Even if the dead language exception went away, I'd support an exception for translation into dead languages.
15Nicole_VanK
>14 prosfilaes: (second part) - I agree. It's after all a very specific audience.
Personally I'm fine with the dead language exception. But there are many problems associated with it, especially when it comes to bilingual editions. Also it tends to disrupt the connectivity of some older heritage libraries - often people owning books in dead languages because that happened to be the most available edition for them.
Personally I'm fine with the dead language exception. But there are many problems associated with it, especially when it comes to bilingual editions. Also it tends to disrupt the connectivity of some older heritage libraries - often people owning books in dead languages because that happened to be the most available edition for them.
16Stevil2001
These two instances of Twisted Toyfare Theatre, Volume 8 ought to be combined, but one is authorless:
http://www.librarything.com/work/2459558
http://www.librarything.com/work/2891639
http://www.librarything.com/work/2459558
http://www.librarything.com/work/2891639
18Nicole_VanK
> 17 : Good for you. Welcome to combining. But be warned: it's addictive ;-)
19MarieWG
Hi. I have two similar books by the same author that I can't combine. They are Little boy Jesus and Little boy Jesus at home both by M. Redington-White. But Ms Redington White (she's got a hyphen in one book not the other, but I put one in her name in both to try and MAKE them combine!) does not want to join in with herself! The first named book insists on being separate from the other books by her. Anyone help me with this please? Hmm I see the touchstone for Little boy Jesus at home doesn't want to work either.
20skittles
#19: Please use hyperlinks to both pages to make it easier for others to find the books/works you are referring to .
Thank you.
Thank you.
21DaynaRT
>6 yue:
Unless they are abridged, audiobooks are to be combined with the rest of the works.
Unless they are abridged, audiobooks are to be combined with the rest of the works.
22SaintSunniva
Someone put Hippocrene for the author of a Loeb library book of Hippocrates. Perhaps someone here can get it off the Hippocrene Books author page. Even better, get Hippocrene off the Hippocrates entirely.
The author page
http://www.librarything.com/combine.php?author=bookshippocrene
The work, with the wrong author attributed to some but not all of the copies
http://www.librarything.com/work/1487549
Thankfully there are *only* five of them.
The author page
http://www.librarything.com/combine.php?author=bookshippocrene
The work, with the wrong author attributed to some but not all of the copies
http://www.librarything.com/work/1487549
Thankfully there are *only* five of them.
23PortiaLong
>22 SaintSunniva:
I gave it a shot (though I am generally bad at "floating" authors) - does it look ok now?
You can't change who other people have entered as the authors (thank goodness! - I am rather persnicketly about this in some ways) but some people have a knack to at least get the work assigned to the "correct" author. (I hope to be one of them some day >smile
I gave it a shot (though I am generally bad at "floating" authors) - does it look ok now?
You can't change who other people have entered as the authors (thank goodness! - I am rather persnicketly about this in some ways) but some people have a knack to at least get the work assigned to the "correct" author. (I hope to be one of them some day >smile
24PortiaLong
>3 kathrynnd:
I agree with >5 paulhurtley:
They should be combined - it is my impression that many people correct the title or title/author and let the rest fall where it will (including ISBN at times) - SO, if forced to choose between title and ISBN - I would definately go with Title
>6 yue:
I second fleela in 21 - audiobooks should be combined with the original work, but ONLY if they contain the WHOLE work.
If each "audiobook" only contains a part, as the example you gave appears to be, (or is abridged) then it should not. ALSO - they should not be combined with each other - since they reflect 3 different "parts."
>16 Stevil2001:
DONE
>7 Aerrin99:
All the Wyers of Pern - combined
I agree with >5 paulhurtley:
They should be combined - it is my impression that many people correct the title or title/author and let the rest fall where it will (including ISBN at times) - SO, if forced to choose between title and ISBN - I would definately go with Title
>6 yue:
I second fleela in 21 - audiobooks should be combined with the original work, but ONLY if they contain the WHOLE work.
If each "audiobook" only contains a part, as the example you gave appears to be, (or is abridged) then it should not. ALSO - they should not be combined with each other - since they reflect 3 different "parts."
>16 Stevil2001:
DONE
>7 Aerrin99:
All the Wyers of Pern - combined
25PortiaLong
>19 MarieWG:
The work the touchstone links to is here:
http://www.librarything.com/work/5677287
it gives the author as "n/a"
Since there are several works entitiled Little Boy Jesus by different authors and the work has no ISBN it will remain a singleton unless its owner enters more information.
Other books entitled Little Boy Jesus:
http://www.librarything.com/work/2412799
by Lynn Moore
http://www.librarything.com/work/445247
by Enid Blyton
http://www.librarything.com/work/6365709
by Mary H. Brownback
as well as by M Redington White :
http://www.librarything.com/work/5567715
(so you can see why adding links instead of Touchstones is more accurate).
Edited to add: your copy should now be combined
The work the touchstone links to is here:
http://www.librarything.com/work/5677287
it gives the author as "n/a"
Since there are several works entitiled Little Boy Jesus by different authors and the work has no ISBN it will remain a singleton unless its owner enters more information.
Other books entitled Little Boy Jesus:
http://www.librarything.com/work/2412799
by Lynn Moore
http://www.librarything.com/work/445247
by Enid Blyton
http://www.librarything.com/work/6365709
by Mary H. Brownback
as well as by M Redington White :
http://www.librarything.com/work/5567715
(so you can see why adding links instead of Touchstones is more accurate).
Edited to add: your copy should now be combined
26carport
This is a "please fix this author" request (on the "please fix this book request" thread)
Janet Travell
(http://www.librarything.com/search_author.php?searchbox=Janet+Travell&event=&Search=Search)
and
David G. Simonds
(http://www.librarything.com/author/simonsdavidg&norefer=1)
are co-authors of a two-volume series Myofascial Pain and Dysfunction: The Trigger Point Manual
various copies are listed under the variants of the authors names, sometimes separated and sometimes together.
I hesitate to combine the two authors -- although it may be the best way -- but I'd like to combine all the copies of the works (which also may need separating as there are 2-volume sets and individual volumes 1 and 2 all lumped together.
I'm looking for some guidance, please.
Janet Travell
(http://www.librarything.com/search_author.php?searchbox=Janet+Travell&event=&Search=Search)
and
David G. Simonds
(http://www.librarything.com/author/simonsdavidg&norefer=1)
are co-authors of a two-volume series Myofascial Pain and Dysfunction: The Trigger Point Manual
various copies are listed under the variants of the authors names, sometimes separated and sometimes together.
I hesitate to combine the two authors -- although it may be the best way -- but I'd like to combine all the copies of the works (which also may need separating as there are 2-volume sets and individual volumes 1 and 2 all lumped together.
I'm looking for some guidance, please.
27Nicole_VanK
> 26
In general : please don't combine authors that are clearly different persons - even if / when they do cooperate.
In general : please don't combine authors that are clearly different persons - even if / when they do cooperate.
29Nicole_VanK
>28 carport:
I did what I could so far - which, as far as I can see, leaves us with
2 vol set : http://www.librarything.com/work/1049888
vol 1 : http://www.librarything.com/work/3060556
vol 2 : http://www.librarything.com/work/7527357
vol 2 : http://www.librarything.com/work/7527447
Those different listings for vol 2 certainly still need fixing - it usually can be done but it needs some extra programming skills. Skittles?..
And it's a bit of a shame that consensus seems to attribute vol 1 to Travell, but the set and vol 2 to Simons. Maybe somebody with better "floating" skills could fix that.
I did what I could so far - which, as far as I can see, leaves us with
2 vol set : http://www.librarything.com/work/1049888
vol 1 : http://www.librarything.com/work/3060556
vol 2 : http://www.librarything.com/work/7527357
vol 2 : http://www.librarything.com/work/7527447
Those different listings for vol 2 certainly still need fixing - it usually can be done but it needs some extra programming skills. Skittles?..
And it's a bit of a shame that consensus seems to attribute vol 1 to Travell, but the set and vol 2 to Simons. Maybe somebody with better "floating" skills could fix that.
31skittles
#29:
OK, I think I got all of the volume 2 works together... & yes, they didn't want to "get together"
There's one work that doesn't say vol 1, vol 2 or vol 1 & 2, so it is going to be lonely for awhile... or at least until the cache catches up. It probably should go with the vol 1&2 set, but the ISBN says differently. I'll let those of you more familiar with that work decide. I'll be lurking (as I usually do) if needed.
and some are listed under Janet Travell & others under David Simons ... but I'm not up to trying to get all works under one author right now... and I'm not going to decide which one, either...
I just do the work.
OK, I think I got all of the volume 2 works together... & yes, they didn't want to "get together"
There's one work that doesn't say vol 1, vol 2 or vol 1 & 2, so it is going to be lonely for awhile... or at least until the cache catches up. It probably should go with the vol 1&2 set, but the ISBN says differently. I'll let those of you more familiar with that work decide. I'll be lurking (as I usually do) if needed.
and some are listed under Janet Travell & others under David Simons ... but I'm not up to trying to get all works under one author right now... and I'm not going to decide which one, either...
I just do the work.
32Nicole_VanK
> 31 : Skittles to the rescue - thank you skittles!
33SaintSunniva
>22 SaintSunniva:, 23 THANKS! PortiaLong, the page looks perfect: no more Hippocrates mixed in with Hippocrene! Yay~!
34Stevil2001
> 24 : Thanks, Portia!
35MarieWG
>25 PortiaLong:. Thank you Portia!
36yue
>6 yue: Thanks for all the feedback. I went beck to check on those works, and someone had combined it with the unabridged work, so I separated it and added a disambiguation notice to all three.
37yue
Does anyone have any ability with Czech? This translation of one of Brian Jacques' books is titles "Sedm strašidelných příběhů", but I can't find it in Worldcat.
http://www.librarything.com/work/4820469
http://www.librarything.com/work/4820469
38PhoenixTerran
37> My guess is that it is a translation of http://www.librarything.com/work/359011
but I am not certain.
but I am not certain.
39yue
>38 PhoenixTerran: I thought that as well, but I can't be sure.
Could someone with more skill and time on their hands give "Anne of Green Gables" some attention? There are three disambiguation notices: one is empty, and the two others refer to an abridged children's edition and an abridged audio book which were combined with the unabridged edition regardless of their respective disambiguation notices.
http://www.librarything.com/work/3253
Could someone with more skill and time on their hands give "Anne of Green Gables" some attention? There are three disambiguation notices: one is empty, and the two others refer to an abridged children's edition and an abridged audio book which were combined with the unabridged edition regardless of their respective disambiguation notices.
http://www.librarything.com/work/3253
40MarthaJeanne
37 - 39 The UNESCO website says yes.
Combined.
Combined.
41Aerrin99
Noticed today that there is a Stephanie Meyer to go with the oft-mispelled Stephenie Meyer, and the former is erroneously credited with authoring several of the Twilight books. Can someone who's combine/separate savvy give it a whirl?
http://www.librarything.com/author/meyerstephanie
http://www.librarything.com/author/meyerstephenie
ETA: There's a disambiguation notice on the page, so perhaps this is a known problem!
http://www.librarything.com/author/meyerstephanie
http://www.librarything.com/author/meyerstephenie
ETA: There's a disambiguation notice on the page, so perhaps this is a known problem!
42PortiaLong
>41 Aerrin99:
The books by Stephenie Meyer have been combined off of the StephAnie Meyer page.
The books by Stephenie Meyer have been combined off of the StephAnie Meyer page.
43labfs39
I've fiddled with this but can't seem to fix. There is an entry for the author Stoneman with two works listed. The first Bronte Transformations: Cultural Dissemination of "Jane Eyre" and "Wuthering Heights" is by Patsy Stoneman and the second Zimbabwe's inheritance is by Colin Stoneman. I tried adding my own copy with the full author's name and then combining editions but that didn't help. Is there a way to fix?
Edited: Although touchstone for Bronte Transformation shows up in edit view, it's not showing in my message. Sorry! Here's the link: http://www.librarything.com/work/7544864
Edited: Although touchstone for Bronte Transformation shows up in edit view, it's not showing in my message. Sorry! Here's the link: http://www.librarything.com/work/7544864
44PhoenixTerran
Would someone mind looking into Huston Smith's World's Religions. (http://www.librarything.com/work/8512/editions/)
I'm particularly wondering about The Illustrated World's Religions (which I own)...besides being illustrated, I'm not sure it's the same as the other editions, but I don't have another book to compare it to. Anyone know?
I'm particularly wondering about The Illustrated World's Religions (which I own)...besides being illustrated, I'm not sure it's the same as the other editions, but I don't have another book to compare it to. Anyone know?
45PhoenixTerran
44> According to the Google Books page, The Illustrated World's Religions retains "all the beloved qualities of Huston Smith's classic The Religions of Man and the current fully revised and updated The World's Religions, this stunning pictorial presentation refines the text to its wonderful essentials."
I'm going to go ahead and start working on separating it out.
I'm going to go ahead and start working on separating it out.
46Nicole_VanK
Good luck, don't forget to leave disambiguation.
47PhoenixTerran
Thanks. :-)
48PortiaLong
>44 PhoenixTerran:
I don't see any "Illustrated"s left on the editions page - have you finished this project?
>43 labfs39:
Works combined/floated off of the "Stoneman" page and a more generic disambig posted.
I don't see any "Illustrated"s left on the editions page - have you finished this project?
>43 labfs39:
Works combined/floated off of the "Stoneman" page and a more generic disambig posted.
49SaintSunniva
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50SaintSunniva
To be combined: This work, Student Calculator Math Book by Texas Instruments Learning Center has about four dozen copies under five different authors, or no author.
http://www.librarything.com/work/2124337
http://www.librarything.com/work/96513
http://www.librarything.com/work/2003857
http://www.librarything.com/work/514516
http://www.librarything.com/work/6185059
http://www.librarything.com/work/5178843
Thanks so much.
http://www.librarything.com/work/2124337
http://www.librarything.com/work/96513
http://www.librarything.com/work/2003857
http://www.librarything.com/work/514516
http://www.librarything.com/work/6185059
http://www.librarything.com/work/5178843
Thanks so much.
52Anneli
Crime and punishment seem to have parts combined into the same work:
Crime et chatiment vol.1
Rikos ja rangaistus. 1
Forbrytelse og straff. B.2
Crime et châtiment (tome 1)
Forbrytelse og straff II
Crime and Punishment: 2
but the ISBN's (at least some of them) are for the whole work, so I am not sure what to do. Would someone more courageous try to sort this out?
Crime et chatiment vol.1
Rikos ja rangaistus. 1
Forbrytelse og straff. B.2
Crime et châtiment (tome 1)
Forbrytelse og straff II
Crime and Punishment: 2
but the ISBN's (at least some of them) are for the whole work, so I am not sure what to do. Would someone more courageous try to sort this out?
53vpfluke
#37 & 38
I usually google the foreign language title to see what I can find there, rather than use Worldcat. At this point, Sedm strašidelných příběhů seems to have been combined with Seven Strange and Ghostly tales.
It looks like #40 combined them.
I usually google the foreign language title to see what I can find there, rather than use Worldcat. At this point, Sedm strašidelných příběhů seems to have been combined with Seven Strange and Ghostly tales.
It looks like #40 combined them.
54vintage_books
Found this book which needs to be combined:
http://www.librarything.com/work/book/6707227
http://www.librarything.com/work/book/40060301
http://www.librarything.com/work/book/6707227
http://www.librarything.com/work/book/40060301
55carport
>54 vintage_books:
I was able to combine the books, after I combined the author. However, the incorrectly spelled author name from the first volume you listed has taken precedence. I will add a disambiguation notice, but *HELP!* -- I am unable to force it to display the correct author name.
I was able to combine the books, after I combined the author. However, the incorrectly spelled author name from the first volume you listed has taken precedence. I will add a disambiguation notice, but *HELP!* -- I am unable to force it to display the correct author name.
56krazy4katz
>52 Anneli:: I began some modest sorting of Crime and Punishment. I removed the Norton Critical Editions from the main body of work. This shows up on the author page, but not on the combining page for some reason. I will wait until tomorrow to see if it is a caching problem. I need a new challenge - getting tired of Dickens!
k4k
k4k
57carport
>54 vintage_books: >55 carport:
In case someone wants to fix the author name, the correct name is "Mrs. Marion M. Pullan"
In case someone wants to fix the author name, the correct name is "Mrs. Marion M. Pullan"
58kathrynnd
57>>A search brings up another possibility...
http://www.librarything.com/work/367938
should help move "Pullen" from top spot.
I found this after checking the book title on WorldCat and finding yet another possibility, so entered the book temporarily from the University of Alberta. (That's what gave me the idea to search further on LT to find the work above.) Don't bother combining this next one unless you want to add the author to the database, I will delete the book in a few days.
http://www.librarything.com/work/book/40523929
Not that the library source name is the correct one on these very old books anyway. I always prefer the way the author's name is on the title page.
http://www.librarything.com/work/367938
should help move "Pullen" from top spot.
I found this after checking the book title on WorldCat and finding yet another possibility, so entered the book temporarily from the University of Alberta. (That's what gave me the idea to search further on LT to find the work above.) Don't bother combining this next one unless you want to add the author to the database, I will delete the book in a few days.
http://www.librarything.com/work/book/40523929
Not that the library source name is the correct one on these very old books anyway. I always prefer the way the author's name is on the title page.
59vintage_books
Thank you all for your hard work.
VB
VB
60lorin77
I think these are the same, what do you think?
ANGEL THERAPY by Denise Whichello Brown
http://www.librarything.com/work/3679133
Angyalterápia by Denise Whichello Brown
http://www.librarything.com/work/5748786
Thanks!
ETA: On an unrelated note, I don't know how to combine this book
http://www.librarything.com/work/3044417/book/28916443
with all the other copies of Freud's book, as the author is showing up different. How do I combine, other than going through the author page?
ANGEL THERAPY by Denise Whichello Brown
http://www.librarything.com/work/3679133
Angyalterápia by Denise Whichello Brown
http://www.librarything.com/work/5748786
Thanks!
ETA: On an unrelated note, I don't know how to combine this book
http://www.librarything.com/work/3044417/book/28916443
with all the other copies of Freud's book, as the author is showing up different. How do I combine, other than going through the author page?
61MarthaJeanne
That one doesn't show up on editions (from the work page), which is the first way to try.
I think I would combine the authors.
'Sigmund Freud; Translator James Strachey' is really not a valid author.
I think I would combine the authors.
'Sigmund Freud; Translator James Strachey' is really not a valid author.
62carport
60>
re, the Freud book: I've just combined the authors, then the work
I don't know about Angel Therapy, and couldn't determine it by searching the web. I'd bet that they're the same work, but I won't combine them -- awaiting someone who can be sure they are the same.
re, the Freud book: I've just combined the authors, then the work
I don't know about Angel Therapy, and couldn't determine it by searching the web. I'd bet that they're the same work, but I won't combine them -- awaiting someone who can be sure they are the same.
63kevinashley
>60 lorin77:, 62
The author's own web site only claims one book on angel therapy, so my instinct was to combine all three works (hence including the illustrated guide with the two you already mentioned.) Which I've done.
The author's own web site only claims one book on angel therapy, so my instinct was to combine all three works (hence including the illustrated guide with the two you already mentioned.) Which I've done.
64jjwilson61
I hope you separated the authors again afterward. Multiple entry authors are not supposed to be combined with their single author counterparts.
ETA, the reasoning is that if Mr. Strachey had written any books on his then his author page could be combined with the Freud and Strachey page and you'd have a real mess.
ETA, the reasoning is that if Mr. Strachey had written any books on his then his author page could be combined with the Freud and Strachey page and you'd have a real mess.
65skittles
when I find a book with multiple authors that cannot regularly be combined with the same book listed with a single author, I will temporarily combine the authors so I can combine the books & THEN I will separate the authors. I will always separate the authors in a case like this..
66hnau
Somebody has combined all books by Philipp Melanchthon.
I've already separated Melanchthon deutsch, which is a collection of works without Loci Communes or Theologici. Unfortunately, I don't know enough to disentangle the other works.
I've already separated Melanchthon deutsch, which is a collection of works without Loci Communes or Theologici. Unfortunately, I don't know enough to disentangle the other works.
67MarthaJeanne
66> I've separated it all out, and done some combining. I have also combined various forms of Melachthon's name.
A good Lutheran theologian should look at this while it's more or less tidy. (Sorry, I'm Anglican.)Should the various dates of Loci communes be combined? There is also a loose copy floating around.
http://www.librarything.com/work/3116457
And its editions recommends a false combination, not the right one.
Between that false recommendation and the fact that the German title of Theologici and the English title of Communes are a good translation of each other, I'm afraid this may come up again.
A good Lutheran theologian should look at this while it's more or less tidy. (Sorry, I'm Anglican.)Should the various dates of Loci communes be combined? There is also a loose copy floating around.
http://www.librarything.com/work/3116457
And its editions recommends a false combination, not the right one.
Between that false recommendation and the fact that the German title of Theologici and the English title of Communes are a good translation of each other, I'm afraid this may come up again.
68LisaMorr
I've tried to clean up Stephen King a bit, but messed something up a bit, I think. Mea culpa.
Someone combined S. King and Stephen King. I uncombined. Now, under S. King, http://www.librarything.com/author/kings&norefer=1. there are 2 works, Moeder's & Co., http://www.librarything.com/work/7570845, which should go with Sophie King, and Site Planning in Australia, http://www.librarything.com/work/6498682, which should just go on its own, I think.
How do you fix this?
Someone combined S. King and Stephen King. I uncombined. Now, under S. King, http://www.librarything.com/author/kings&norefer=1. there are 2 works, Moeder's & Co., http://www.librarything.com/work/7570845, which should go with Sophie King, and Site Planning in Australia, http://www.librarything.com/work/6498682, which should just go on its own, I think.
How do you fix this?
69Nicole_VanK
> 68:
"Moeders & Co." - done. Which should leave "Site Planning in Australia" to itself.
"Moeders & Co." - done. Which should leave "Site Planning in Australia" to itself.
70LisaMorr
>69 Nicole_VanK: - Thank you. Can you tell me how you did it?
71Nicole_VanK
>70 LisaMorr:: The others showed up as potential combination under "editions" (for that work). And since the majority of those were attributed to Sophie King, that's where it ended up.
73PhoenixTerran
Oh noes! My computer/internet connection hates me, so I can't fix the horrible mess known as "The Complete Shakespeare" that I discovered:
http://www.librarything.com/work/2480465/editions
All sorts of things wrong in there, particularly individual volumes being combined into one work. Sigh.
http://www.librarything.com/work/2480465/editions
All sorts of things wrong in there, particularly individual volumes being combined into one work. Sigh.
74Nicole_VanK
>73 PhoenixTerran:: Once more, onto the breach! And all that.
75PhoenixTerran
Thanks, BarkingMatt, and whoever might join you!
76MarthaJeanne
73> A few Vol 2 type things, but I didn't see much wrong. I got some of those out. There are also a few annotated editions that could be taken out, but I didn't touch them.
77Nicole_VanK
> 74: I beg to differ. Lower down lots of entries of loose volume (whatever number) - usually not with a huge amount of copies though.
Recombining those will be a bit tricky since there aren't just 2 volume sets, but also sets with any other number up to 40 volumes. So the mention "volume 2", or anything like that, will not be enough to identify contents.
Because there are also 2 volume complete sets, I think we should leave those stating "volume 1 & 2" in. They might very well be the complete stuff.
As for the annotated and illustrated editions - I don't feel qualified to judge if they are sufficiently different to qualify separating, so I'm not touching those either.
Recombining those will be a bit tricky since there aren't just 2 volume sets, but also sets with any other number up to 40 volumes. So the mention "volume 2", or anything like that, will not be enough to identify contents.
Because there are also 2 volume complete sets, I think we should leave those stating "volume 1 & 2" in. They might very well be the complete stuff.
As for the annotated and illustrated editions - I don't feel qualified to judge if they are sufficiently different to qualify separating, so I'm not touching those either.
78carport
>64 jjwilson61:
I did not uncombine Freud with Strachey, since the two had already been combined twice or more with Freud (in the usual weird variants of their combined names). Shall I uncombine all of the Freud & Strachey entries?
I did not uncombine Freud with Strachey, since the two had already been combined twice or more with Freud (in the usual weird variants of their combined names). Shall I uncombine all of the Freud & Strachey entries?
79Nicole_VanK
> 73 - 77> Managed to shave off about 100 copies that really shouldn't have been there. Loosing concentration - bedtime here in Europe. ;-) More tomorrow or for others...
80upstairsgirl
I have two bibles in my collection that show up as being in the libraries of only two people including me. Obviously that's wrong, but every time I think of wading in to fix them, I get terrified.
One is the King James Bible. Mine is here: http://www.librarything.com/work/6868559/book/34614073 and I know dang well that the other member and I are not the only ones with a KJV. It has no ISBN, so editions doesn't suggest any combinations, and I have no idea which of the 1,790 other hits you get for "King James Version" is the right thing to combine it with. (http://www.librarything.com/search_works.php?q=king+james+version)
Similarly, I have a New Oxford Annotated Bible, NRSV, without the apocrypha, that shows only 2 members. http://www.librarything.com/work/6472489. (It also, inexplicably, has no ISBN.) Again, I can't believe we're really the only two, but I don't know if the problem is what I've put for the author, or what. The search hits (http://www.librarything.com/search_works.php?q=new+oxford+annotated+bible) are fewer but still overwhelming, so I'm throwing this one out there too.
Hopefully someone in here is more knowledgeable and braver than me and can find homes for these. Thanks!
One is the King James Bible. Mine is here: http://www.librarything.com/work/6868559/book/34614073 and I know dang well that the other member and I are not the only ones with a KJV. It has no ISBN, so editions doesn't suggest any combinations, and I have no idea which of the 1,790 other hits you get for "King James Version" is the right thing to combine it with. (http://www.librarything.com/search_works.php?q=king+james+version)
Similarly, I have a New Oxford Annotated Bible, NRSV, without the apocrypha, that shows only 2 members. http://www.librarything.com/work/6472489. (It also, inexplicably, has no ISBN.) Again, I can't believe we're really the only two, but I don't know if the problem is what I've put for the author, or what. The search hits (http://www.librarything.com/search_works.php?q=new+oxford+annotated+bible) are fewer but still overwhelming, so I'm throwing this one out there too.
Hopefully someone in here is more knowledgeable and braver than me and can find homes for these. Thanks!
81SaintSunniva
Please combine
http://www.librarything.com/work/33242
http://www.librarything.com/work/283235
Thanks very much.
http://www.librarything.com/work/33242
http://www.librarything.com/work/283235
Thanks very much.
82skittles
#80: for your oxford annotated bible, go to the oxford site, or amazon or another booksite & look for the exact edition & version of the oxford annotated that you have & find an ISBN.
but if you look on the page just after the title page, the one with the copyright information, you should find an isbn listed there.
Where-ever you find an ISBN, edit your copy to reflect that information. Also, it helps for the Oxford Annotated Bibles if you put the edition name in the title in parentheses (Third Edition)
Also, for the most recent edition, I don't think that Bruce Metzger is the editor, but I'm not sure which edition you have.
Also, thank you for keeping the version (NRSV) of your copy in the title... it does help keeping them correctly sorted, combined & happy.
but if you look on the page just after the title page, the one with the copyright information, you should find an isbn listed there.
Where-ever you find an ISBN, edit your copy to reflect that information. Also, it helps for the Oxford Annotated Bibles if you put the edition name in the title in parentheses (Third Edition)
Also, for the most recent edition, I don't think that Bruce Metzger is the editor, but I'm not sure which edition you have.
Also, thank you for keeping the version (NRSV) of your copy in the title... it does help keeping them correctly sorted, combined & happy.
83deslni01
I have a problem and two questions (well, technically three problems):
1) I cannot for the life of me combine my copy (http://www.librarything.com/work/7249237/book/40566021) of fear and trembling with the more popular group/edition of the text. The link in parentheses being my copy, and the bracketed, thus hyperlinked "Fear and Trembling" being the most owned copy. Any help, suggestions, advice?
2) My edition of at the mountains of madness contains only the named text and a piece of non-fiction by Lovecraft by the name supernatural horror in literature. What is the general method to handling such a situation? Some of the editions of ATMOM include a bundle of other works, and obviously "Horror" is it's own work in itself (with 176 members owning it). Do I just leave things as they are, where it only lists at the mountains of madness in my library? What does everyone else do?
3) Very similar as number 2: I picked up a copy of Aristotle's poetics and rhetoric which, as the title indicates, contains both "Rhetoric" and "Poetics". My question now is, do I leave it as poetics and rhetoric or is there a way to separate it into rhetoric and poetics (the combined has 249 copies and 0 reviews, whereas poetics has 1524 copies and 9 reviews, and rhetoric has 512 copies)
1) I cannot for the life of me combine my copy (http://www.librarything.com/work/7249237/book/40566021) of fear and trembling with the more popular group/edition of the text. The link in parentheses being my copy, and the bracketed, thus hyperlinked "Fear and Trembling" being the most owned copy. Any help, suggestions, advice?
2) My edition of at the mountains of madness contains only the named text and a piece of non-fiction by Lovecraft by the name supernatural horror in literature. What is the general method to handling such a situation? Some of the editions of ATMOM include a bundle of other works, and obviously "Horror" is it's own work in itself (with 176 members owning it). Do I just leave things as they are, where it only lists at the mountains of madness in my library? What does everyone else do?
3) Very similar as number 2: I picked up a copy of Aristotle's poetics and rhetoric which, as the title indicates, contains both "Rhetoric" and "Poetics". My question now is, do I leave it as poetics and rhetoric or is there a way to separate it into rhetoric and poetics (the combined has 249 copies and 0 reviews, whereas poetics has 1524 copies and 9 reviews, and rhetoric has 512 copies)
84PortiaLong
>81 SaintSunniva:
done
>83 deslni01:
#1
done
#2
in general - I try to only combine things that contain essentially the same content - since YOUR copy does not contain all of the content of " a bundle of other works" I would try to keep it separate with others that only contain "the named text and a piece of non-fiction" -- this may be difficult, so I would post a disambiguation notice once you have your work separated.
#2/#3
In my personal library I will document "inclusions" - works that I feel can stand alone - that I happen to own included in an omnibus. I also enter the omnibus "work". See my profile for details (this is NOT a standard - this is my own personal practice). So if I owned "poetics and rhetoric" I would enter it both as "poetics and rhetoric" (complete with publishing info etc specific to my copy of the work) and tag it "omnibus" AND "poetics" and "rhetoric" separately (with no publication info) and tag as "inclusion". You should do what ever makes the most sense/ is the most useful to YOU. (My 2 cents - others may disagree.)
done
>83 deslni01:
#1
done
#2
in general - I try to only combine things that contain essentially the same content - since YOUR copy does not contain all of the content of " a bundle of other works" I would try to keep it separate with others that only contain "the named text and a piece of non-fiction" -- this may be difficult, so I would post a disambiguation notice once you have your work separated.
#2/#3
In my personal library I will document "inclusions" - works that I feel can stand alone - that I happen to own included in an omnibus. I also enter the omnibus "work". See my profile for details (this is NOT a standard - this is my own personal practice). So if I owned "poetics and rhetoric" I would enter it both as "poetics and rhetoric" (complete with publishing info etc specific to my copy of the work) and tag it "omnibus" AND "poetics" and "rhetoric" separately (with no publication info) and tag as "inclusion". You should do what ever makes the most sense/ is the most useful to YOU. (My 2 cents - others may disagree.)
85stephmo
Hi,
I was updating some book award information - and I think I found a book where someone crammed at least two books in one series together (book 1 is the only one that got the award I'm trying to put on) -
http://www.librarything.com/work/2747252
Unfortunately, I'm not wholly familiar with the book, just the award, so I'm a bit overwhelmed on how to fix it. It also appears that the books have alternate titles...
I was updating some book award information - and I think I found a book where someone crammed at least two books in one series together (book 1 is the only one that got the award I'm trying to put on) -
http://www.librarything.com/work/2747252
Unfortunately, I'm not wholly familiar with the book, just the award, so I'm a bit overwhelmed on how to fix it. It also appears that the books have alternate titles...
86skittles
#85: There are two titles for the book; The Spooks Curse & The Curse of the Bane.
I've added a disambiguation notice with details on the alternate titles.
see information here:
http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/63122531?tab=details#tabs
I've added a disambiguation notice with details on the alternate titles.
see information here:
http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/63122531?tab=details#tabs
87upstairsgirl
82> There is no ISBN anywhere in the book, unfortunately; so weird, since I bought it in like 1997. OUP's website isn't super-helpful, either; I'm pretty sure none of the bibles I'm finding there are the exact edition I have. I bought it for a class in college, but even the library at my college doesn't have a copy - all it has are similarly-dated editions with the apocrypha. I found on Alibris two copies that I *think* are the same edition, with ISBNs, but those don't turn up anything at OUP or in WorldCat, so I'm hesitant to add them in. I notice this morning that there is a third member with that edition now; perhaps we really are the only three people, given how hard it is to find elsewhere. The copy I have definitely lists Metzger as the editor (along with Roland Murphy) but doesn't say which edition it is; it just gives the copyright dates.
My KJV was purchased at the same time, and also has no ISBN anywhere on its innards, and the bookstore sticker on the back has "not available" in the space where the ISBN usually goes. (Again: weird.) The publisher's website is no help, and Alibris brings up a bunch of hits that I'm pretty sure are the same book, but don't have ISBNs, so that's no help either. Sigh.
Anyway, thank you for the suggestions. I'll keep digging and see if I can turn anything else up.
ETA: Digging around on publisher-as-author (American Bible Society) got me to this morass: http://www.librarything.com/author/abs It looks like it might be three or more authors, but I don't even know where to start with the separating. I am backing away slowly and leaving it to someone more patient and experienced than I.
My KJV was purchased at the same time, and also has no ISBN anywhere on its innards, and the bookstore sticker on the back has "not available" in the space where the ISBN usually goes. (Again: weird.) The publisher's website is no help, and Alibris brings up a bunch of hits that I'm pretty sure are the same book, but don't have ISBNs, so that's no help either. Sigh.
Anyway, thank you for the suggestions. I'll keep digging and see if I can turn anything else up.
ETA: Digging around on publisher-as-author (American Bible Society) got me to this morass: http://www.librarything.com/author/abs It looks like it might be three or more authors, but I don't even know where to start with the separating. I am backing away slowly and leaving it to someone more patient and experienced than I.
88skittles
#87: What YEAR is your edition? is there a copyright year on it? Is the cover the same as in the work you show? what year did you buy is & did you buy it new or used?
here are some links from amazon for you to check:
http://www.amazon.com/Annotated-Augmented-Revised-Standard-Version/dp/0195288769...
http://www.amazon.com/Oxford-Annotated-Revised-Standard-Version/dp/0195283554/re...
This is my copy:
http://www.librarything.com/work/book/12150323
please note that since you don't have an isbn, you might want to change your author (temporarily) to the main author listed for the oxford annotated.
here are some links from amazon for you to check:
http://www.amazon.com/Annotated-Augmented-Revised-Standard-Version/dp/0195288769...
http://www.amazon.com/Oxford-Annotated-Revised-Standard-Version/dp/0195283554/re...
This is my copy:
http://www.librarything.com/work/book/12150323
please note that since you don't have an isbn, you might want to change your author (temporarily) to the main author listed for the oxford annotated.
89upstairsgirl
88> Mine has a copyright date of 1994; I purchased it new in 1997. The book cover for the work in my library is the one I uploaded; it's actually the title page since my copy is clothbound with a plan cover. The second Amazon link in your post has the same behind-the-title-page as my edition has, so I'll add in that ISBN. Thanks!
ETA: Well, a search on that ISBN in LT gets me a version *with* the apocrypha, which is not what I have, so maybe that is not the right answer either. It, too, does not pull up anything on OUP's website.
In regards to changing the author to the main one listed for the oxford annotated, I'm not sure what you mean; I can't seem to find an entry for the New Oxford Annotated, NRSV, without the apocrypha. I apologize, because I'm sure I must seem incredibly dense.
Edited again: OK. I dug into google books and found the same edition there that you linked to on Amazon (second link above), with the same ISBNs. Searching either the ISBN-10 or -13 on LT, though, leads to a version of the book that has the apocrypha in it: http://www.librarything.com/work/12297/book/34614864. Looking at the editions and the covers people have uploaded, I think some editions without the apocrypha are combined in there. To me, with and without are two separate things, but maybe the problem I'm having is that they are in fact not? I will leave it alone until I have an answer on that. Thanks!
ETA: Well, a search on that ISBN in LT gets me a version *with* the apocrypha, which is not what I have, so maybe that is not the right answer either. It, too, does not pull up anything on OUP's website.
In regards to changing the author to the main one listed for the oxford annotated, I'm not sure what you mean; I can't seem to find an entry for the New Oxford Annotated, NRSV, without the apocrypha. I apologize, because I'm sure I must seem incredibly dense.
Edited again: OK. I dug into google books and found the same edition there that you linked to on Amazon (second link above), with the same ISBNs. Searching either the ISBN-10 or -13 on LT, though, leads to a version of the book that has the apocrypha in it: http://www.librarything.com/work/12297/book/34614864. Looking at the editions and the covers people have uploaded, I think some editions without the apocrypha are combined in there. To me, with and without are two separate things, but maybe the problem I'm having is that they are in fact not? I will leave it alone until I have an answer on that. Thanks!
90skittles
What is your ISBN? Then I (or another combiner) can separate out the non-apocrypha editions.
Originally there was a dust jacket for your edition, but it 'disappeared' before you got it.... (you aren't dusty enough, I guess)
Originally there was a dust jacket for your edition, but it 'disappeared' before you got it.... (you aren't dusty enough, I guess)
91upstairsgirl
90> Ok. This is the one I've attached to mine: 0195283724; the ISBN-13 version is 9780195283723. I am 99% sure this is the right number.
Here are some others I've identified as definitely not having apocrypha:
ISBN 0195283708, 9780195283709
ISBN 0195283554, 9780195283556 (a braille edition whose ISBNs also lead to the page I linked earlier).
I won't have time today to go in there and take a crack at it (and I'm not confident in my ability to separate and re-combine yet either) but hopefully that'll help. Thanks so much!
Here are some others I've identified as definitely not having apocrypha:
ISBN 0195283708, 9780195283709
ISBN 0195283554, 9780195283556 (a braille edition whose ISBNs also lead to the page I linked earlier).
I won't have time today to go in there and take a crack at it (and I'm not confident in my ability to separate and re-combine yet either) but hopefully that'll help. Thanks so much!
92Nicole_VanK
While you're at it, could / would you please also take a look at this batch of pre-ISBN KJV bibles?
http://www.librarything.com/work/406958/book/25477046
http://www.librarything.com/work/406958/book/25477046
93MarthaJeanne
If anyone is looking for a challenge, can I recommend
http://www.librarything.com/combine.php?author=bunyanjohn
Therre are so many variations on Pilgrim's Progress. Some definitely do not belong in the main work (Cliff Notes). Some may belong separated (annotated versions, Norton Critical...), then the various abridgments, What about 'in today's English, in Modern English, retold for the modern reader...
I played a bit and took out a few, combined a few, but I think I've had enough for tonight.
http://www.librarything.com/combine.php?author=bunyanjohn
Therre are so many variations on Pilgrim's Progress. Some definitely do not belong in the main work (Cliff Notes). Some may belong separated (annotated versions, Norton Critical...), then the various abridgments, What about 'in today's English, in Modern English, retold for the modern reader...
I played a bit and took out a few, combined a few, but I think I've had enough for tonight.
94skittles
ok, New Oxford Annotated Bibles.... I combined & separated a bunch... added Canonical Titles & Disambiguation notices to specify that they are Oxford Annotated Bibles with or without the Apocrypha AND New Revised Standard or Revised Standard translations.
Where is the "Bible" discussion thread?
Where is the "Bible" discussion thread?
95picturebookperson
http://www.librarything.com/work/5059489
http://www.librarything.com/work/1582381
Please combine the very noisy night. Thanks.
http://www.librarything.com/work/1582381
Please combine the very noisy night. Thanks.
97picturebookperson
http://www.librarything.com/work/3699359/editions/
http://www.librarything.com/work/387176
Please combine alejandro's gift. Thanks.
http://www.librarything.com/work/387176
Please combine alejandro's gift. Thanks.
98DaynaRT
>97 picturebookperson:
Done from the Editions page for the books. You can check there for the easiest way to find combination possibilities.
Done from the Editions page for the books. You can check there for the easiest way to find combination possibilities.
99upstairsgirl
94> Thanks so much skittles!
100Stbalbach
The 7 seven books listed here are all the same work and need to be combined. I don't know how and was told at the Combiners group it needs "advanced techniques". I'd like to learn the techniques if possible (unless its system admin only).
Title: "The Horizon Book of the Age of Napoleon"
Copies: http://www.librarything.com/search_works.php?q=+The+Horizon+Book+of+The+Age+of+N...
Title: "The Horizon Book of the Age of Napoleon"
Copies: http://www.librarything.com/search_works.php?q=+The+Horizon+Book+of+The+Age+of+N...
102Stbalbach
#100, thank you!
Looking at #65 I'm guessing that's how you did it (I did that once but forgot it could be done).
Looking at #65 I'm guessing that's how you did it (I did that once but forgot it could be done).
103picturebookperson
http://www.librarything.com/work/5697804
http://www.librarything.com/work/96659
Please combine Weslandia. Thanks.
http://www.librarything.com/work/96659
Please combine Weslandia. Thanks.
105NorthernStar
I was exploring some members' libraries, and found in someone's library that we supposedly had "Pillars of Monarchy: An Outline of the Political and Social History of Royal Guards 1400-1984" by Philip Mansel in common, except that I had never heard of it! When I checked it out, it had been combined with J.R.R. Tolkein's Return of the King. I found it at the following location: http://www.librarything.com/work/3203356/33210488
I tried to separate it, but am still getting a connection. It may be cache issues, or maybe my separation did not work, so I thought I should list it here.
I tried to separate it, but am still getting a connection. It may be cache issues, or maybe my separation did not work, so I thought I should list it here.
106PortiaLong
>105 NorthernStar:
I found a few more copies of Pillars of Monarchy to separate - now seen here:
http://www.librarything.com/work/3210308
Where the Return of the King is seen here:
http://www.librarything.com/work/3203356
The link in your post still leads to some bizarre mashup - how does it look in your library (or in their library or however you found it)?
I found a few more copies of Pillars of Monarchy to separate - now seen here:
http://www.librarything.com/work/3210308
Where the Return of the King is seen here:
http://www.librarything.com/work/3203356
The link in your post still leads to some bizarre mashup - how does it look in your library (or in their library or however you found it)?
107Nicole_VanK
Weird - these two both show on the author's page but not in each other's potential combinations + the second not on the author's combine/separate list.
http://www.librarything.com/work/6078576
http://www.librarything.com/work/6078568
Anybody?
http://www.librarything.com/work/6078576
http://www.librarything.com/work/6078568
Anybody?
108PortiaLong
>107 Nicole_VanK:
maybe that error where things disappeared from the combine/separate page after a combining?
combined.
maybe that error where things disappeared from the combine/separate page after a combining?
combined.
109Nicole_VanK
Could be, but usually - especially with the numbers of copies involved here - they still show up as potentials for combination.
Anyway, thank you.
Anyway, thank you.
110ThomasPlischke
Heya everybody,
I am still pretty new to this combining business, but nonetheless I am trying to do my best. Unluckily I am at my wit's end with the following books:
http://www.librarything.de/search_works.php?q=Traumsaat
"Traumsaat" and "Creatures of the Dreamseed" are definitely identical (I contributed to this RPG and worked with the publishing house for a time). "Traumsaat" is the German original. The author should be "Oliver Graute".
http://www.librarything.de/work/969734
http://www.librarything.de/work/3177107
"Hiobs Botschaft 2: Traumsaat" by Severin Rast is actually a novel and not identical to the a.m. source-book:
http://www.librarything.de/work/4378363
I can't seem to be able to split them up and combine effectively, maybe it's just the databank giving me trouble, but some experienced assistance would be most appreciated.
Take care, Thomas
I am still pretty new to this combining business, but nonetheless I am trying to do my best. Unluckily I am at my wit's end with the following books:
http://www.librarything.de/search_works.php?q=Traumsaat
"Traumsaat" and "Creatures of the Dreamseed" are definitely identical (I contributed to this RPG and worked with the publishing house for a time). "Traumsaat" is the German original. The author should be "Oliver Graute".
http://www.librarything.de/work/969734
http://www.librarything.de/work/3177107
"Hiobs Botschaft 2: Traumsaat" by Severin Rast is actually a novel and not identical to the a.m. source-book:
http://www.librarything.de/work/4378363
I can't seem to be able to split them up and combine effectively, maybe it's just the databank giving me trouble, but some experienced assistance would be most appreciated.
Take care, Thomas
111picturebookperson
http://www.librarything.com/work/7613338
http://www.librarything.com/work/174334
Can you combine the greedy python? I am not messing with Eric Carle's page.
Also the foolish tortoise below:
http://www.librarything.com/work/322191
http://www.librarything.com/work/5061162 Thanks.
http://www.librarything.com/work/174334
Can you combine the greedy python? I am not messing with Eric Carle's page.
Also the foolish tortoise below:
http://www.librarything.com/work/322191
http://www.librarything.com/work/5061162 Thanks.
112MarthaJeanne
111>Foolish Turtle done.
Greedy Python is in two different authors and doesn't show up in Editions.
110>If you go to the Author page you can go on to the combine/separate page from there and fix things. I haven't done it - I suspect you know what does and does not belong together better than I do.
http://www.librarything.com/author/grauteoliver
or
http://www.librarything.de/author/grauteoliver
Greedy Python is in two different authors and doesn't show up in Editions.
110>If you go to the Author page you can go on to the combine/separate page from there and fix things. I haven't done it - I suspect you know what does and does not belong together better than I do.
http://www.librarything.com/author/grauteoliver
or
http://www.librarything.de/author/grauteoliver
113ThomasPlischke
> 112 Many thanks for your kind pointer. Seems to habe worked out!
114MarthaJeanne
Looks much neater! I wasn't sure which went together.
115picturebookperson
Re: messages 111 and 112
Greedy Python is just like foolish tortoise. they are written by Buckley, but eric carle is the illustrator and more well known. You can look it up on the Buckley page and see Carle listed as the illustrator. Let me know if this is enough to combine or not. thanks.
Also can you combine Do the funky pickle - another no edition choice, but the pictures are obviously the same?
http://www.librarything.com/work/1908555/editions/#
http://www.librarything.com/work/358460
Greedy Python is just like foolish tortoise. they are written by Buckley, but eric carle is the illustrator and more well known. You can look it up on the Buckley page and see Carle listed as the illustrator. Let me know if this is enough to combine or not. thanks.
Also can you combine Do the funky pickle - another no edition choice, but the pictures are obviously the same?
http://www.librarything.com/work/1908555/editions/#
http://www.librarything.com/work/358460
116MarthaJeanne
The difference is that Foolish Tortoise had matching ISBNs so it was easy to do in editons. These other two books don't so they are harder and take a fair amount of time, which I don't have tonight.
117yue
What is the consensus on pseudonyms? Lemony Snicket's real name is Daniel Handler, they have been combined under Lemony Snicket.
I am in favor of separation and a disambiguation notice, or at the very least changing the canonical name of this author to Daniel Handler because "they" are different authors and write for different audiences.
I am going to leave it alone until I get some feedback (in which case I may still leave it alone).
I also ran across Edith Van Dyne who is and has been combined with L. Frank Baum. I am inclined to separate them as well and leave a disambiguation notice.
{Edited for clarity}
{Edited a second time regarding Edith Van Dyne}
I am in favor of separation and a disambiguation notice, or at the very least changing the canonical name of this author to Daniel Handler because "they" are different authors and write for different audiences.
I am going to leave it alone until I get some feedback (in which case I may still leave it alone).
I also ran across Edith Van Dyne who is and has been combined with L. Frank Baum. I am inclined to separate them as well and leave a disambiguation notice.
{Edited for clarity}
{Edited a second time regarding Edith Van Dyne}
118bernsad
I'm in favour of books appearing under the name they were published. What does it matter if Lemony Snickett or Mark Twain weren't real people? If that's how they choose to present themselves, then who am I to argue. Seperate them and leave a notice to explain the connection between them IMO.
119NorthernStar
Re >105 NorthernStar: >106 PortiaLong:
I checked the link I originally followed, and it looks OK - shows that book is no longer in common, and the librarythinger (is that a word?) who's library it is in shows up as one of the owners of the 6 copies of Pillars of Monarchy. I'm hoping the link from my original post is just a remnant of the former combining, and will go away.
You have to wonder how they ever got combined in the first place!
I checked the link I originally followed, and it looks OK - shows that book is no longer in common, and the librarythinger (is that a word?) who's library it is in shows up as one of the owners of the 6 copies of Pillars of Monarchy. I'm hoping the link from my original post is just a remnant of the former combining, and will go away.
You have to wonder how they ever got combined in the first place!
120PortiaLong
>115 picturebookperson: - do the funky pickle
done
>111 picturebookperson:/115 - greedy python
done
>110 ThomasPlischke:
was this done? I am not seeing any obvious combining candidates (even when I change to the .com version of LT) - the second link of the pair you gave has 0 members.
done
>111 picturebookperson:/115 - greedy python
done
>110 ThomasPlischke:
was this done? I am not seeing any obvious combining candidates (even when I change to the .com version of LT) - the second link of the pair you gave has 0 members.
121PortiaLong
>117 yue:/118
I read through some previous debates and it doesn't seem as though there is any real consensus. My preference is the opposite of bernsad's - I would prefer to see all of the works by a (physical, real) person on one author page with the pseudonyms noted in the CK - I put whichever author name I feel is most appropriate (i.e. the one on "my" copy) in my own library but would like to see them "collected" on a single author page.
For instance - Heinlein wrote under a number of pseudonyms that are not particularly well-known. It seems that he later acknowledged all of these works as his own (republishing them later under his own name) so keeping the names separate doesn't really give you any additional info. This seems to be the case for many SF writers (my preferred genre) so it seems reasonable to me for these to combine these pseudonyms with the "real" author name.
It seems as though other authors treated their pseudonyms differently - since I don't own/read those authors I suppose I have no opinion.
Some instances where I think that pseudonyms should NOT be combined is when the psuedonym is for TWO DIFFERENT authors writing together (i.e. A writes as A, B writes as B, but A+B writes as C - C should have their own page) or when a pseudonym could represent any one of a number of people (i.e. A or B or C has all written under X for a series - X should have their own page).
I read through some previous debates and it doesn't seem as though there is any real consensus. My preference is the opposite of bernsad's - I would prefer to see all of the works by a (physical, real) person on one author page with the pseudonyms noted in the CK - I put whichever author name I feel is most appropriate (i.e. the one on "my" copy) in my own library but would like to see them "collected" on a single author page.
For instance - Heinlein wrote under a number of pseudonyms that are not particularly well-known. It seems that he later acknowledged all of these works as his own (republishing them later under his own name) so keeping the names separate doesn't really give you any additional info. This seems to be the case for many SF writers (my preferred genre) so it seems reasonable to me for these to combine these pseudonyms with the "real" author name.
It seems as though other authors treated their pseudonyms differently - since I don't own/read those authors I suppose I have no opinion.
Some instances where I think that pseudonyms should NOT be combined is when the psuedonym is for TWO DIFFERENT authors writing together (i.e. A writes as A, B writes as B, but A+B writes as C - C should have their own page) or when a pseudonym could represent any one of a number of people (i.e. A or B or C has all written under X for a series - X should have their own page).
122yue
> 121 Portia, I understand if the book has been republished under the author's real name, but Daniel Handler took great care in making sure his name was not revealed until the very end of the series (unless it had gotten out earlier). Lemony Snicket is more than just a pseudonym, it is a persona.
As far as Edith Van Dyne/L. Frank Baum (and other pseudonyms of his), I can see leaving them together since "Edith" is highly obscure. However, Baum never published them under his name and kept his pseudonyms separate from his persona as "Royal Historian of Oz".
One reason I would separate them is that if you were to actually have them cataloged in a library, they would be sorted by the pseudonym, not by the real author (Twain appears under T, not under C for Clemens).
As far as Edith Van Dyne/L. Frank Baum (and other pseudonyms of his), I can see leaving them together since "Edith" is highly obscure. However, Baum never published them under his name and kept his pseudonyms separate from his persona as "Royal Historian of Oz".
One reason I would separate them is that if you were to actually have them cataloged in a library, they would be sorted by the pseudonym, not by the real author (Twain appears under T, not under C for Clemens).
123flyingcamel
I need help separating two works that I accidentally combined (it's only three errant copies, fortunately). The author is here, and the books Apartment Greenery and Apartment Gardener should be separate works. I'd fix it myself but neither of them show up on the combine/separate page for me any more, even when I reload the page or sign in with another account on a different browser.
125moekane
123:
they were there when I looked - 1 copy of Greenery separated from several Gardeners
Moe
they were there when I looked - 1 copy of Greenery separated from several Gardeners
Moe
126MarthaJeanne
120> 110 was done (see 112, 113)
127MarthaJeanne
I like having the pseudonyms combined with together. For example, I find it useful to know that Jean Plaidy and Victoria Holt are the same author, although I keep them separate on the shelf and chose one or the other depending on mood. Most users won't even know that their book's author has been combined with another unless they are specifically looking for that information.
129karamazow
I just found out this actually belongs in this here thread:
the following works are all the same, but as there are 2 authors, copies are spread all over the dB
http://www.librarything.com/search_works.php?q=man+balcony
Please help us poor owners out! Thx...
edited to correct abridged link
the following works are all the same, but as there are 2 authors, copies are spread all over the dB
http://www.librarything.com/search_works.php?q=man+balcony
Please help us poor owners out! Thx...
edited to correct abridged link
130MarthaJeanne
I've been working on
http://www.librarything.com/author/strassburggottfriedv
There are two works for Tristan on the author page, but one of them doesn't show up on the combine/separate page.
I have tried to separate all copies of just Gottfried's Tristan out from the work containing the Tristan of Thomas as well.
Same thing here - I'd love to connect up both works of Gregorius.
http://www.librarything.com/author/auehartmannvon
http://www.librarything.com/author/strassburggottfriedv
There are two works for Tristan on the author page, but one of them doesn't show up on the combine/separate page.
I have tried to separate all copies of just Gottfried's Tristan out from the work containing the Tristan of Thomas as well.
Same thing here - I'd love to connect up both works of Gregorius.
http://www.librarything.com/author/auehartmannvon
131vaneska
Some charmer has combined all editions of Larousse Gastronomique together. I have 3 editions and off the top of my head the last of them, New Larousse Gastronomique, is drastically (perhaps even unrecognisably) different from the earlier versions. Not to mention the Concise edition.... Too late to tackle now but I might try tomorrow if my mindset is right.
v
v
132lloannna
Joseph Smith.
http://www.librarything.com/author/smithjoseph
There are about six people named Joseph Smith, including the son of the most famous one, Joseph Smith III, the nephew of the famous one, Joseph F. Smith, AND that guy's son, Joseph Fielding Smith. Even more fun is that Joseph F. Smith wrote a book called "The Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith," and about a hundred years later, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (or rather, it's curriculum committee) wrote a book called "Teachings of Presidents of the Church: Joseph Smith." Those two books, along with "Teachings of Presidents of the Church: Joseph F. Smith" are constantly getting combined when they shouldn't be.
At any given time, at least one of those four men is conflated with one of the other four (usually, but not always, on the Joseph Smith page). Right this very moment, a couple of editions of Joseph Smith III's memoirs are on Joseph Smith's page.
Anyway. It doesn't make sense to me (though I admit here and for all time that I am unwise and uninformed and new to the ways of LibraryThing) that they should be on one author page. Shouldn't there be four totally distinct pages, i.e.,
Joseph Smith, Jr.
Joseph Smith III
Joseph F. Smith
Joseph Fielding Smith
And everyone be off on their own, with no page for "Joseph Smith" at all? I know there's a disambiguation statement, but that's more like a "here there be monsters" thing - it's not fixing the problem, which is that these are all different people. Is there no hope?
(there are all kinds of other issues with specific volumes - the Book of Mormon, a couple of books by Joseph Smith/B.H. Roberts/Brigham Young - but this is kind of driving me loopy today.)
http://www.librarything.com/author/smithjoseph
There are about six people named Joseph Smith, including the son of the most famous one, Joseph Smith III, the nephew of the famous one, Joseph F. Smith, AND that guy's son, Joseph Fielding Smith. Even more fun is that Joseph F. Smith wrote a book called "The Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith," and about a hundred years later, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (or rather, it's curriculum committee) wrote a book called "Teachings of Presidents of the Church: Joseph Smith." Those two books, along with "Teachings of Presidents of the Church: Joseph F. Smith" are constantly getting combined when they shouldn't be.
At any given time, at least one of those four men is conflated with one of the other four (usually, but not always, on the Joseph Smith page). Right this very moment, a couple of editions of Joseph Smith III's memoirs are on Joseph Smith's page.
Anyway. It doesn't make sense to me (though I admit here and for all time that I am unwise and uninformed and new to the ways of LibraryThing) that they should be on one author page. Shouldn't there be four totally distinct pages, i.e.,
Joseph Smith, Jr.
Joseph Smith III
Joseph F. Smith
Joseph Fielding Smith
And everyone be off on their own, with no page for "Joseph Smith" at all? I know there's a disambiguation statement, but that's more like a "here there be monsters" thing - it's not fixing the problem, which is that these are all different people. Is there no hope?
(there are all kinds of other issues with specific volumes - the Book of Mormon, a couple of books by Joseph Smith/B.H. Roberts/Brigham Young - but this is kind of driving me loopy today.)
133Nicole_VanK
> 132 Yes, you're right it would be better if these authors got separated. But LT does not control the way users enter their books. If they use "Joseph Smith" as author, then there will be a "Joseph Smith" page on which these books appear.
Unfortunately there is no way - at present - for the system to distinguish between authors with the same name. In fact, since neither "Joseph" nor "Smith" are rare, I bet there are a couple of others mixed in there as well.
Unfortunately there is no way - at present - for the system to distinguish between authors with the same name. In fact, since neither "Joseph" nor "Smith" are rare, I bet there are a couple of others mixed in there as well.
134yue
Does anyone know what is going on with The Queen of Attolia? On the author page it shows that there at two separate copies, but in the combinations page the singleton disappears. I have looked for other Megan Whalen Turners to combine, but they have all been combined. It also shouldn't be a cache issue, because this has been like this for days.
This is the main work: http://www.librarything.com/work/290577
and here is the singleton: http://www.librarything.com/work/7272295
This is the main work: http://www.librarything.com/work/290577
and here is the singleton: http://www.librarything.com/work/7272295
135Nicole_VanK
There is a bug about. This is one of those books that - although the entry claims there is 1 copy - doesn't seem to have any users attached to it. The bug has been reported.
136PortiaLong
>132 lloannna:
You can certainly separate out the "Jrs" "F" "III" etc authors to get them their own pages and post disambig notices (too bad they don't show for authors like they now do for works). However, that won't do much for all the plain old "Joseph Smith" attributed works.
The "Teachings" issue (Joseph vs Joseph F.) can be handled at a work level with disambigs. Since I may have inadvertantly contributed to this I will go do that now...
Edited to add:
Looks like the separation/recombining was already done - disambigs added.
You can certainly separate out the "Jrs" "F" "III" etc authors to get them their own pages and post disambig notices (too bad they don't show for authors like they now do for works). However, that won't do much for all the plain old "Joseph Smith" attributed works.
The "Teachings" issue (Joseph vs Joseph F.) can be handled at a work level with disambigs. Since I may have inadvertantly contributed to this I will go do that now...
Edited to add:
Looks like the separation/recombining was already done - disambigs added.
137PortiaLong
>130 MarthaJeanne:
If you post the links to the specific works you would like combined I would be happy to work on them for you. Not being familiar with the works (especially with any language issues) I am hesitant to combine things that are similar but not identical. Something may have changed since a link to a author page was posted so I might not be seeing the same items that were there when you originally posted.
>129 karamazow:
done
If you post the links to the specific works you would like combined I would be happy to work on them for you. Not being familiar with the works (especially with any language issues) I am hesitant to combine things that are similar but not identical. Something may have changed since a link to a author page was posted so I might not be seeing the same items that were there when you originally posted.
>129 karamazow:
done
138MarthaJeanne
>137 PortiaLong: Sorry, it was very late last night,
(http://www.librarything.com/work/1494829/editions/
(
http://www.librarything.com/work/7619461
Most of the edtions in the larger one are also bilingual, I don't think there is any issue here.
http://www.librarything.com/work/7632429
http://www.librarything.com/work/7017329
Some of these are combined from singletons, some were separated out from the work that includes a second version of Tristan. There may be a few of those still in this, but if so they have been entered without ISBN. The title difference is a matter of this being a medieval work, and different modern editors use different titles.
I was going to see how Canterbury Tales had been dealt with, and found this lovely Canonical title
Geoffrey Chaucer; Selected Canterbury Tales; Unabridged
http://www.librarything.com/work/2741906
(Edited to add that I have taken everything out of that work which isn't obviously a selection, and changed the canonical title. I didn't do anything to the big chunk of Canterbury tales, but combined the loose ones into the selection work, an ESL work, a Norton Critical work, and a smaller chunk of various editions, leaving out the volumes and very specific pieces. It could use more, but I've had as much of it as I can take today.)
Why, oh why did I decide to enter more of the medieval stuff? (Jerry and I agreed yesterday that neither of us is ever going to read it again, but that we aren't ready to give it up.)
(http://www.librarything.com/work/1494829/editions/
(
http://www.librarything.com/work/7619461
Most of the edtions in the larger one are also bilingual, I don't think there is any issue here.
http://www.librarything.com/work/7632429
http://www.librarything.com/work/7017329
Some of these are combined from singletons, some were separated out from the work that includes a second version of Tristan. There may be a few of those still in this, but if so they have been entered without ISBN. The title difference is a matter of this being a medieval work, and different modern editors use different titles.
I was going to see how Canterbury Tales had been dealt with, and found this lovely Canonical title
Geoffrey Chaucer; Selected Canterbury Tales; Unabridged
http://www.librarything.com/work/2741906
(Edited to add that I have taken everything out of that work which isn't obviously a selection, and changed the canonical title. I didn't do anything to the big chunk of Canterbury tales, but combined the loose ones into the selection work, an ESL work, a Norton Critical work, and a smaller chunk of various editions, leaving out the volumes and very specific pieces. It could use more, but I've had as much of it as I can take today.)
Why, oh why did I decide to enter more of the medieval stuff? (Jerry and I agreed yesterday that neither of us is ever going to read it again, but that we aren't ready to give it up.)
139vpfluke
132 & 133
A quick look at author listings in the LOC catalog shows over 100 Joseph Smiths (with and without middle names): many of these are obviously uncombined because they are from the "old catalog." Still, a bundle of names.
My boss's boss is a Joseph Smith, but he isn't a writer.
A quick look at author listings in the LOC catalog shows over 100 Joseph Smiths (with and without middle names): many of these are obviously uncombined because they are from the "old catalog." Still, a bundle of names.
My boss's boss is a Joseph Smith, but he isn't a writer.
140MarthaJeanne
130, 138
OK I got these today.
OK I got these today.
141picturebookperson
http://www.librarything.com/work/3132100/editions/
http://www.librarything.com/work/76779
Can you combine M.C. Higgins even though one may be a recorded book?
http://www.librarything.com/work/3217821/editions/
http://www.librarything.com/work/472903
Can you combine words of stone?
http://www.librarything.com/work/76779
Can you combine M.C. Higgins even though one may be a recorded book?
http://www.librarything.com/work/3217821/editions/
http://www.librarything.com/work/472903
Can you combine words of stone?
143MarthaJeanne
OK that's what happened while i was looking at it.
144picturebookperson
http://www.librarything.com/work/3994912/editions/
http://www.librarything.com/work/6422911
Can you combine Mr. Putter and Tabby walk the dog?
http://www.librarything.com/work/5963315
http://www.librarything.com/work/95560
also mr. putter...toot the horn?
http://www.librarything.com/work/5692612
http://www.librarything.com/work/95556
also ....pick the pears? Thanks.
http://www.librarything.com/work/6422911
Can you combine Mr. Putter and Tabby walk the dog?
http://www.librarything.com/work/5963315
http://www.librarything.com/work/95560
also mr. putter...toot the horn?
http://www.librarything.com/work/5692612
http://www.librarything.com/work/95556
also ....pick the pears? Thanks.
145PortiaLong
>141 picturebookperson: MC Higgins
done
>144 picturebookperson:
the first link doesn't have any copies
toot the horn and pick the pears done
done
>144 picturebookperson:
the first link doesn't have any copies
toot the horn and pick the pears done
146lorin77
Not sure why I can't see this singleton when I go to the Shaw combine page:
http://www.librarything.com/work/4517887/details/24341061
I'm pretty sure it should be combined with these:
http://www.librarything.com/work/2946562/details
Is it because the latter two are listed as Bernard Shaw, rather than George Bernard Shaw? Those authors are combined, so I'm not sure why it would be a problem.
Thanks!
http://www.librarything.com/work/4517887/details/24341061
I'm pretty sure it should be combined with these:
http://www.librarything.com/work/2946562/details
Is it because the latter two are listed as Bernard Shaw, rather than George Bernard Shaw? Those authors are combined, so I'm not sure why it would be a problem.
Thanks!
147PortiaLong
>146 lorin77:
? some random caching problem
combined
Shaw's page is rather a mess...going back to clean house a little.
? some random caching problem
combined
Shaw's page is rather a mess...going back to clean house a little.
148vintage_books
I tried to look over this author's page to combine some of my books, but I think I'm in over my head.
Perhaps if a more experienced combiner would like to take a few minutes to see if this author's works are in order and have been combined correctly?
William Makepeace Thackeray
http://www.librarything.com/author/thackeraywilliammake
Thank you,
vintage_books
Perhaps if a more experienced combiner would like to take a few minutes to see if this author's works are in order and have been combined correctly?
William Makepeace Thackeray
http://www.librarything.com/author/thackeraywilliammake
Thank you,
vintage_books
149picturebookperson
http://www.librarything.com/work/3254563
http://www.librarything.com/work/1209670
Please combine Laura's star
http://www.librarything.com/work/3499513
http://www.librarything.com/work/1662207
Also Laura's Christmas Star
http://www.librarything.com/work/171972
http://www.librarything.com/work/95196
also hawk, i'm your brother
http://www.librarything.com/work/1209670
Please combine Laura's star
http://www.librarything.com/work/3499513
http://www.librarything.com/work/1662207
Also Laura's Christmas Star
http://www.librarything.com/work/171972
http://www.librarything.com/work/95196
also hawk, i'm your brother
150bookel
These two books belong on the Anne Digby page (as shown in the cover image she is the author). They don't appear on editions. (I wish there was a way to manually suggest editions to combine on the page).
Naughtiest Girl Marches On should be on Anne Digby's page with this book.
Well Done, the Naughtiest Girl should be on Anne Digby's page with this book.
There are a lot of other titles on Enid Blyton's page that the author never wrote because of Amazon listing errors.
Naughtiest Girl Marches On should be on Anne Digby's page with this book.
Well Done, the Naughtiest Girl should be on Anne Digby's page with this book.
There are a lot of other titles on Enid Blyton's page that the author never wrote because of Amazon listing errors.
151lorax
They can be combined, which will move them over to Digby's page, but nobody other than the owner can change the author on that specific copy.
153lorin77
147> Thanks! It looked like a mess to me, too, but I didn't feel like getting into it at that hour.
154picturebookperson
http://www.librarything.com/work/2728188
http://www.librarything.com/work/3884159
http://www.librarything.com/work/38432
Please combine Sideways Stories from Wayside School
http://www.librarything.com/work/2204740
http://www.librarything.com/work/96650
Also Wayside school gets a little stranger
Thanks.
http://www.librarything.com/work/3884159
http://www.librarything.com/work/38432
Please combine Sideways Stories from Wayside School
http://www.librarything.com/work/2204740
http://www.librarything.com/work/96650
Also Wayside school gets a little stranger
Thanks.
157anxovert
my son found two listings for "Uncanny!" by Paul Jennings and we can't work out how to combine them.
could someone please take a look at the following:
http://www.librarything.com/work/514994
http://www.librarything.com/work/book/40822596
Thanks.
could someone please take a look at the following:
http://www.librarything.com/work/514994
http://www.librarything.com/work/book/40822596
Thanks.
158DaynaRT
>157 anxovert:
Done.
Done.
159PhoenixTerran
Part of the Don Quixote Project--these two works should be combined together, but should not be combined into any of the other Don Quixotes out there. They are a small selection written at an intermediate Spanish reading level. Thanks!
http://www.librarything.com/work/1425999/editions/
http://www.librarything.com/work/7669615/editions/
http://www.librarything.com/work/1425999/editions/
http://www.librarything.com/work/7669615/editions/
160PhoenixTerran
And...I did it myself. Just hadn't waited long enough for the database to catch up so that the works could find each other. Doh.
161picturebookperson
http://www.librarything.com/work/5291777
http://www.librarything.com/work/691809
Please combine Amzat and his brothers.
http://www.librarything.com/work/1863353
http://www.librarything.com/work/5864792
Also Georgie and the magician
http://www.librarything.com/work/3197668
http://www.librarything.com/work/2559959
Also Georgie to the rescue
http://www.librarything.com/work/1700795
http://www.librarything.com/work/218985
and the furious flycycle
http://www.librarything.com/work/4480851
http://www.librarything.com/work/96270
and the hungry thing
http://www.librarything.com/work/4058722
http://www.librarything.com/work/1043238
and the broccoli tapes Thanks.
http://www.librarything.com/work/691809
Please combine Amzat and his brothers.
http://www.librarything.com/work/1863353
http://www.librarything.com/work/5864792
Also Georgie and the magician
http://www.librarything.com/work/3197668
http://www.librarything.com/work/2559959
Also Georgie to the rescue
http://www.librarything.com/work/1700795
http://www.librarything.com/work/218985
and the furious flycycle
http://www.librarything.com/work/4480851
http://www.librarything.com/work/96270
and the hungry thing
http://www.librarything.com/work/4058722
http://www.librarything.com/work/1043238
and the broccoli tapes Thanks.
163crimson-tide
Ethan Frome as a single story appears to be combined with other anthologies, such as "Ethan Frome and Other Short Stories", "Ethan Frome and Other Short Fiction" etc.
I have the Wordsworth Classic edition which is the story on its own, yet on "my" work page, http://www.librarything.com/work/book/40375908 the Canonical Title comes up as "Ethan Frome and Other Short Fiction".
Is this right? I'm thoroughly confused and would really appreciate:
1) someone experienced to tell me if this is correct or not.
2) If not, then someone experienced to correct it.
editions: http://www.librarything.com/work/209/editions/40375908#
search page: http://www.librarything.com/search_works.php?q=Ethan+Frome
Thanks very much.
I have the Wordsworth Classic edition which is the story on its own, yet on "my" work page, http://www.librarything.com/work/book/40375908 the Canonical Title comes up as "Ethan Frome and Other Short Fiction".
Is this right? I'm thoroughly confused and would really appreciate:
1) someone experienced to tell me if this is correct or not.
2) If not, then someone experienced to correct it.
editions: http://www.librarything.com/work/209/editions/40375908#
search page: http://www.librarything.com/search_works.php?q=Ethan+Frome
Thanks very much.
164bernsad
>163 crimson-tide:. See if that solves Ethan Frome's problem.
165kathrynnd
>163 crimson-tide: I separated out the copies that included the other stories. Most likely the Canonical title came in when the two works were combined. Anyway that didn't remove the Canonical title so I edited it to just plain Ethan Frome. ( As In understand it you shouldn't just delete a Canonical Title once the field has been filled in, but you can change it)
Here's the new separated work FYI
http://www.librarything.com/work/7679065
Note that a few copies have a shortened version of the title, or brackets in the title, which may be the reason someone added a Canonical title for the edition with the other short stories.
I added a disambiguation notice listing the stories, hopefully that will prevent the works being combined once again.
Here's the new separated work FYI
http://www.librarything.com/work/7679065
Note that a few copies have a shortened version of the title, or brackets in the title, which may be the reason someone added a Canonical title for the edition with the other short stories.
I added a disambiguation notice listing the stories, hopefully that will prevent the works being combined once again.
167Nicole_VanK
> 166: Would gladly do so, but it seems the second has 0 users so there's nothing to combine.
168riverwillow
Hi there
A couple of books by Victoria Blake where the editions need combining but for some reason its not working:
Skin and Blister
http://www.librarything.com/work/1731046
with this edition
http://www.librarything.com/work/7650496
and
Jumping the Cracks
http://www.librarything.com/work/7675236
with this edition
http://www.librarything.com/work/4742857
Thanks.
A couple of books by Victoria Blake where the editions need combining but for some reason its not working:
Skin and Blister
http://www.librarything.com/work/1731046
with this edition
http://www.librarything.com/work/7650496
and
Jumping the Cracks
http://www.librarything.com/work/7675236
with this edition
http://www.librarything.com/work/4742857
Thanks.
169vaneska
A big thank you to the kind person who sorted out the Larousse Gastronomique - wendyrey? - which I had forgotten about for a few days.
v
v
170anxovert
>167 Nicole_VanK: thanks for looking
having two listings for the same book here:
http://www.librarything.com/series/Cliff+Janeway
was bugging me, but if it can't be fixed so be it :)
having two listings for the same book here:
http://www.librarything.com/series/Cliff+Janeway
was bugging me, but if it can't be fixed so be it :)
171crimson-tide
>164 bernsad: & 165: Thank you both.
172Felagund
>168 riverwillow:
Done from the author page.
Done from the author page.
173PortiaLong
>166 anxovert:/170
fixed
fixed
174ReneeMarie
Yikes. Just went to see if Paul Watkins, the author of _Ice Soldier_, had written anything I'd read, and saw a horrific sight: somebody put Sam Watkins' classic _Co. Aytch_, his memoir of his Confederate army service, as if written by a Paul Watkins. I checked my copy, and there's not even a Paul Watkins who wrote an introduction or anything else associated with _Co. Aytch_.
Some individual did have at least one copy of the book misattributed to a "Paul" instead of Sam R., but the majority of them have the right name, just the wrong combination.
If I separate all copies with the correct name, will they simply go away from the listing of Paul Watkins' work? I didn't want to play with this and make a mess.
Also, am I right in thinking I'm not to even *think* of contacting the person who lists a "Paul" Watkins as the author of _Co. Aytch_ to see if he (or she) would fix it?
Here's the page that's freaking me out:
http://www.librarything.com/combine.php?author=watkinspaul
ETA: Frell: googled the ISBN, and found out it's Amazon that's partially screwing this one up (http://www.amazon.com/Co-Aytch-Classic-Confederate-Soldier/dp/0020381301). Going to see if I can contact them about the error.
ETA: Just got off the phone with someone who *says* she submitted an update request as I spoke with her. That was an adventure in itself. Couldn't submit "feedback" without an Amazon account, and I neither have nor want an Amazon account. No customer service phone number listed on their site. Found one via a search engine. Called. Transferred to another phone line. Success? Maybe.
Some individual did have at least one copy of the book misattributed to a "Paul" instead of Sam R., but the majority of them have the right name, just the wrong combination.
If I separate all copies with the correct name, will they simply go away from the listing of Paul Watkins' work? I didn't want to play with this and make a mess.
Also, am I right in thinking I'm not to even *think* of contacting the person who lists a "Paul" Watkins as the author of _Co. Aytch_ to see if he (or she) would fix it?
Here's the page that's freaking me out:
http://www.librarything.com/combine.php?author=watkinspaul
ETA: Frell: googled the ISBN, and found out it's Amazon that's partially screwing this one up (http://www.amazon.com/Co-Aytch-Classic-Confederate-Soldier/dp/0020381301). Going to see if I can contact them about the error.
ETA: Just got off the phone with someone who *says* she submitted an update request as I spoke with her. That was an adventure in itself. Couldn't submit "feedback" without an Amazon account, and I neither have nor want an Amazon account. No customer service phone number listed on their site. Found one via a search engine. Called. Transferred to another phone line. Success? Maybe.
175skittles
#174: it was on the page when I started, but it isn't there now... I just cleaned up some loners that needed combining.
Hopefully, the separating & recombining that you did helped move the book to the correct author page.
Hopefully, the separating & recombining that you did helped move the book to the correct author page.
176Marchbanks
I have a string of titles that are about to run me crazy because they won't combine, and I think it's a pointer problem. Let's start with Eric Kraft, for example.
My copy is http://www.librarything.com/work/1589828/book/40855767 and if I approach it from my personal library, everything's fine--my uploaded cover is in place, I can see the other five people who own it associated with my copy.
BUT!
If I approach it from the author page, I find that (1) the "you own this" check icon doesn't appear, and (2) when I click the work title and go to http://www.librarything.com/work/1589828 , I get the "add this to your library" hyperlink, which I don't believe I should get because I have added the title to my library. Shouldn't the work page recognize that I already have the title in my library, and offer the details, edit book, covers, (and so on) links? (3) My uploaded cover doesn't show up as an option either, when I go direct to the work page.
Is all this "working as designed," or is it (as I kinda suspect) broken?
Sam
My copy is http://www.librarything.com/work/1589828/book/40855767 and if I approach it from my personal library, everything's fine--my uploaded cover is in place, I can see the other five people who own it associated with my copy.
BUT!
If I approach it from the author page, I find that (1) the "you own this" check icon doesn't appear, and (2) when I click the work title and go to http://www.librarything.com/work/1589828 , I get the "add this to your library" hyperlink, which I don't believe I should get because I have added the title to my library. Shouldn't the work page recognize that I already have the title in my library, and offer the details, edit book, covers, (and so on) links? (3) My uploaded cover doesn't show up as an option either, when I go direct to the work page.
Is all this "working as designed," or is it (as I kinda suspect) broken?
Sam
177ReneeMarie
175> It wasn't me, but thank you to whomever did fix it.
Sidebar: according to my home page, I have the number "2" next to the CK listing. How do you find out what you supposedly added to the common knowledge of LT?
Sidebar: according to my home page, I have the number "2" next to the CK listing. How do you find out what you supposedly added to the common knowledge of LT?
178kevinashley
177>
To find out what you've done in CK, one way is to:
(1) Click on the Zeitgeist tab which appears at the top of every page
(2) On the Zeitgeist page, click on the 'Helpers' link at the top
(3) On that page, near the top you'll see
Top 150 Common Knowledge contributors (log)
(4) Click on the 'log' link
(5) In the top right of this page is a search button. Choose 'username' as the search field, and search for your username.
A shortcut to go direct to (5) is this URL:
http://www.librarything.com/commonknowledge/changelog.php
But beware there are bugs with the log.
To find out what you've done in CK, one way is to:
(1) Click on the Zeitgeist tab which appears at the top of every page
(2) On the Zeitgeist page, click on the 'Helpers' link at the top
(3) On that page, near the top you'll see
Top 150 Common Knowledge contributors (log)
(4) Click on the 'log' link
(5) In the top right of this page is a search button. Choose 'username' as the search field, and search for your username.
A shortcut to go direct to (5) is this URL:
http://www.librarything.com/commonknowledge/changelog.php
But beware there are bugs with the log.
179bookel
Is there a way to put both editions on Diana Hall's page please? I tried but there are no editions to combine on this http://www.librarything.com/work/80207
whereas there is here http://www.librarything.com/work/7690636 and to combine there would only put it on the Hall page. The idea is to get it off there...
whereas there is here http://www.librarything.com/work/7690636 and to combine there would only put it on the Hall page. The idea is to get it off there...
180sqdancer
>177 ReneeMarie:
The easiest way to see what you added to CK is to click on Common Knowledge at the bottom of every page At the top right of the page, choose 'username' as the search field and type your username in the search box.
Sometimes you may find that you are credited with CK items from books you combined but where you didn't actually enter CK info. Tim is aware, but I don't know if he or Chris have been able to (or had the time to) determine a fix for this issue.
The easiest way to see what you added to CK is to click on Common Knowledge at the bottom of every page At the top right of the page, choose 'username' as the search field and type your username in the search box.
Sometimes you may find that you are credited with CK items from books you combined but where you didn't actually enter CK info. Tim is aware, but I don't know if he or Chris have been able to (or had the time to) determine a fix for this issue.
181kathrynnd
>>179 bookel: I sent an update to Amazon.com to change the author name for this ISBN from Hall to Diana Hall, so although this won't make a difference to the books already entered with the faulty information, eventually the correct name should catch up. In the meantime I would combine the editions for social reasons even though the book will end up on the wrong author page. The work will always show the correct author name when viewed from your own library.
edited to add touchstones
edited to add touchstones
182bookel
>179 bookel: Done. I figured out how to do it.
183picturebookperson
http://www.librarything.com/work/5697424
http://www.librarything.com/work/159938
Please combine Franklin and Harriet
http://www.librarything.com/work/5697365
http://www.librarything.com/work/159939
and Franklin and the thunderstorm
http://www.librarything.com/work/5697299
http://www.librarything.com/work/159940
and Franklin and the tooth fairy
http://www.librarything.com/work/159938
Please combine Franklin and Harriet
http://www.librarything.com/work/5697365
http://www.librarything.com/work/159939
and Franklin and the thunderstorm
http://www.librarything.com/work/5697299
http://www.librarything.com/work/159940
and Franklin and the tooth fairy
184RobertMosher
Can't seem to combine these two works of The Cavalry Maiden by Nadezhda A Durova:
http://www.librarything.com/work/7449931
http://www.librarything.com/work/315047
Robert A. Mosher
185PortiaLong
>183 picturebookperson:
done
>184 RobertMosher:
done - this was one of those 1 copy, no members issues - they show on the author page but not on combine/separate or combine potentials - very frustrating (hope it gets fixed sometime)
done
>184 RobertMosher:
done - this was one of those 1 copy, no members issues - they show on the author page but not on combine/separate or combine potentials - very frustrating (hope it gets fixed sometime)
186vintage_books
Bump for message #148. :-)
187RobertMosher
#185 -
Thanks Portia - I couldn't figure that one out.
Robert A. Mosher
Thanks Portia - I couldn't figure that one out.
Robert A. Mosher
188Nicole_VanK
>186 vintage_books:: I'll gladly take a look, but I know next to nothing about Thackeray
189skittles
#186 & 188: I separated & combined a little, but the biggest problem is that there are so many "combined editions" or books with multiple works in them...
I also combined a couple of non-English translations where I could find the correct work to combine with...
The biggest issue is the multiple work editions & IF there is another like it to combine with.... especially since some titles are incomplete & the lack of ISBNs for many books.
I also combined a couple of non-English translations where I could find the correct work to combine with...
The biggest issue is the multiple work editions & IF there is another like it to combine with.... especially since some titles are incomplete & the lack of ISBNs for many books.
190vintage_books
Many thanks for BarkingMatt & skittles for taking a look and doing what you could do to clean up that mess!
vintage_books
vintage_books
191monarchi
Can someone please combine this authorless copy of Sexualities and Communication in Everyday Life with this one in my library, attributed to Karen Lovaas?
I can't remember how to do it, if I ever knew, or even if it's possible to combine authorless works.
Thanks!
I can't remember how to do it, if I ever knew, or even if it's possible to combine authorless works.
Thanks!
192onyx95
Because this is an anthology, it has been put in as two books. I would think they need to be combined, but I don't know how to do that, can someone please help.
http://www.librarything.com/work/2625759
http://www.librarything.com/work/2992723
Thanks.
http://www.librarything.com/work/2625759
http://www.librarything.com/work/2992723
Thanks.
193skittles
#191: I think I got it for you...
small request: next time, please put "regular" links to the book(s)... you did fine, but it confused me at first thinking they were touchstones (which I hate)
small request: next time, please put "regular" links to the book(s)... you did fine, but it confused me at first thinking they were touchstones (which I hate)
194skittles
#192: The second link is for just the story, not the anthology... sometimes people will title them with the anthology, then the story name.... I do it with the story title with the anthology in parentheses.
So they probably shouldn't be combined.
So they probably shouldn't be combined.
196r.orrison
Could someone combine these two:
http://www.librarything.com/work/399159 + http://www.librarything.com/work/1365481
and these two:
http://www.librarything.com/work/399475 + http://www.librarything.com/work/222739
Edited to add these two:
http://www.librarything.com/work/554645 + http://www.librarything.com/work/3710167
I've done what I can on the Editions page of these works, and on the Time-Life combine separate page -- these need the special magic.
Thank you!
Edited again for clarity.
http://www.librarything.com/work/399159 + http://www.librarything.com/work/1365481
and these two:
http://www.librarything.com/work/399475 + http://www.librarything.com/work/222739
Edited to add these two:
http://www.librarything.com/work/554645 + http://www.librarything.com/work/3710167
I've done what I can on the Editions page of these works, and on the Time-Life combine separate page -- these need the special magic.
Thank you!
Edited again for clarity.
197kevinashley
Came across this from the random work link:
http://www.librarything.com/work/3723406
which should be combined with this:
http://www.librarything.com/work/3057
but it's beyond my skills to combine them as the first is authorless in LT's data (author has been put into title field.)
Thanks!
http://www.librarything.com/work/3723406
which should be combined with this:
http://www.librarything.com/work/3057
but it's beyond my skills to combine them as the first is authorless in LT's data (author has been put into title field.)
Thanks!
198picturebookperson
http://www.librarything.com/work/5454082
http://www.librarything.com/work/9998
Please combine dealing with dragons- wrede
http://www.librarything.com/work/9998
Please combine dealing with dragons- wrede
199skittles
THIS THREAD IS NOW CLOSED!
Please take any open problems to the new thread located at:
http://www.librarything.com/topic/56061
Thank you!!
Please take any open problems to the new thread located at:
http://www.librarything.com/topic/56061
Thank you!!

