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Combining/Separating (Please Fix This Book!) Request Thread #25!!!

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1theapparatus
Edited: Jun 13, 2010, 8:24 am

This thread is for LT'ers or thingamabrarians, or members, or their designees, to post combining or separating problems with their books.
**If a book has been combined with a book that is extremely different from the original.
**If a book won't combine with the other books just like it.
**There is a problem with the entry & it is just too overwhelming to deal with.
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It has been suggested many times that there be a single thread for LT'ers to post combining & separating problems so that;
** they can learn how to do it
** they can get help when needed
** just want someone else to do it (usually, they can't understand how to do it... which is normal... or don't have the time)
**and finally, those LT'ers who "enjoy" combining can have a place to look to first to see what fun can be had helping LT be the best place to catalog books.
________________________________________...

WHEN YOU POST:
Please give us HYPERLINKS or URLs, not touchstones. Hyperlinks to the pages where the problems exist are much more accurate than a touchstone when there is a problem.
Give us the title & author, plus any other information you think we might need.

Then you can just wait, "and someone will be with you shortly."
________________________________________...

Tim's Guidelines for Proper Etiquette for contacting members about their book records:

"For this topic, I still feel strongly that I'd like to consider it bad form. Many others agree with me. But a few thing I'm dictating and are angry about that. So, fine. Let's just write some guidelines up. I propose that the guidelines be something along the lines of:

*Remember that LibraryThing is used for many different reasons. The way you use and enjoy the site is not necessarily the way others do.
*Be sensitive to how the member is using LibraryThing. Approach members who show no interest in the social side more cautiously.
*Try to provide helpful information and ask questions rather than dictating.
*If the user indicates displeasure at the request, let it drop.
*When in doubt, raise the issue in the Combiners! group before sending a message."
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Skittles' note: I would like to add that we should ALWAYS use private comment when we absolutely must contact a LT'er, even when their response isn't private.

and yes, this thread is similar to putting all of our problems together for people to see & say, "oh, no!! LT isn't perfect!!" or "Look at all of the problems that LT has." That isn't the case here. This is a place to gather "challenges" together to make it easier & faster to "fix" them. Let's just remember that "bad" data comes from people... people who make mistakes.. WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES! (ok, there are a couple of perfect people around here) Instead of complaining about the problem, let's fix it.
________________________________________...

When this thread reaches approximately 200 posts, DO NOT POST HERE, but go to POST #26. This thread will be easier to handle if we keep it under 200. (faster loading) Please copy any notes or instructions to the new thread.
Thank you.

Feel free to add comments &/or suggestions... not just "challenges"

**There is also a Combiner's Group Information, FAQ & Discussion Thread #2 at:
http://www.librarything.com/topic/57164
That thread is for combining information, discussion in general, not for problems....

**The wiki page is here:
http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/Book_combining

2skittles
Jun 12, 2010, 11:34 am

small request:

Can the above message be changed a little bit? I like Portia, but the "Portia's Note" isn't her note, but mine... somewhere along the way, it got changed.. probably because when I wrote it, I wrote "My Note". While Portia may agree with the statement, I don't want any blame assigned to her.

It doesn't have to say "skittles' ", it can say "A Note:"

Thank you.

for 'documentation' & original formatting, please see thread #1 at
http://www.librarything.com/topic/31192

3nsblumenfeld
Jun 12, 2010, 6:16 pm

Okay, after months of having no trouble combining works, this title, which should be a simple combination, has been frustrating me, especially since LibraryThing can't seem to make up its mind which edition is in my library. Thank you for your assistance:

http://www.librarything.com/work/10036859
http://www.librarything.com/work/9928501

4skittles
Jun 12, 2010, 6:20 pm

#3: done

5jasbro
Edited: Jun 12, 2010, 10:25 pm

I believe http://www.librarything.com/work/9559598 should be combined with http://www.librarything.com/work/590658, but the author isn't entered exactly the same on each. EveleenM's comment on another thread (about James Kennedys; #7 at http://www.librarything.com/topic/92782) suggests there may be a way to fix this. Can you help? Thanks!

6skittles
Jun 12, 2010, 10:35 pm

#5: done

7guido47
Edited: Jun 13, 2010, 12:16 am

Dear Group
I mentioned these authors some time ago but then it was difficult to separate 2 authors with identical names. LT seems to have advanced since then, so if some kind soul would separate Arthur Horner the Cartoonist from Arthur Horner the Communist Labour leader ( incorrigible rebel ) I would be thankful. I can combine OK but Separating (and It does deserve a separate "Gong") is beyond my ken.

http://www.librarything.com/author/hornerarthur&norefer=1

Guido

8carport
Edited: Jun 13, 2010, 1:13 am

>7 guido47: I split the author, which is the best LT can do at this point. It was interesting though, because history showed that you had tried splitting the author also.

Thanks for writing the disambiguation notice about the two. :-)

(edited after I noticed you've written a disambiguation)

9theapparatus
Jun 13, 2010, 8:25 am

@skittles, fixed. I apologize if I've offended in any way. As you note, I just copied and pasted the first post from the original.

Thank you for providing the reference link.

10skittles
Edited: Jun 13, 2010, 9:58 am

@theapparatus, not offended at you or anyone else that has blindly copied & pasted... just disappointed at those who did and continued to copy & paste knowing that it was mis-attributed and did nothing to fix it. People make mistakes. Those who knowingly continue to make the same mistakes.... well, I'll call them lazy to be polite. Maybe apathetic &/or forgetful would be better words.

11Talvitar
Jun 13, 2010, 10:27 am

Hi,

please combine Le Petit Nicolas (http://fi.librarything.com/work/3380047) with Pikku Nikke (http://fi.librarything.com/work/10045003).

Thanks a lot!

12Felagund
Jun 13, 2010, 12:39 pm

13Salmastryon
Jun 13, 2010, 1:39 pm

I tried and failed at this, maybe someone else will have better luck.

http://www.librarything.com/work/10045592
http://www.librarything.com/work/3349176

14Felagund
Edited: Jun 13, 2010, 2:23 pm

>13 Salmastryon:
Looking at the editions in each work, they don't appear to be the same... are you sure about this? The cover pictures do support this request, but it's not a final proof either.

15kathrynnd
Edited: Jun 13, 2010, 3:52 pm

Beat of Temptation is a short story contained in An Enchanted Season. Someone used the isbn of the anthology for the entry for the story and that's probably what led to the mixup. I separated out the stories (there were also others) from the main work, then was able to combine the copies of BofT from the editions page.

Someone who knows about series should have a look at this one I'm assuming it is the anthology containing a story, that belongs in a book series as happens here.

17Salmastryon
Jun 13, 2010, 6:42 pm

>14 Felagund:, 15

Yes An enchanted Season is an anthology. Beat of Temptation is a short story in said volume. Despite the the short story not being published elsewhere as of yet, if I understand correctly the entries for just the short story should still be kept separate from the anthology they are in, correct?

I've cleaned up the series mostly already. After getting some good info and references to the German titles, I've cleaned most that problem up as well.

Except two book entries that have zero volumes owned. The common knowledge is also blank so I can't fix the mess up in the series numbers and I can't find them on the authors page to combine.

http://www.librarything.com/work/9947021 with http://www.librarything.com/work/6415999

http://www.librarything.com/work/9947067 with http://www.librarything.com/work/8193502

18PhaedraB
Jun 13, 2010, 7:07 pm

19PhaedraB
Jun 13, 2010, 8:05 pm

and

Home Sweet Home: A Homeowner's Journal and Project Planner
http://www.librarything.com/work/10046749
http://www.librarything.com/work/7842259

22ty1997
Jun 14, 2010, 12:23 am

16> done

23ty1997
Jun 14, 2010, 12:52 am

Something seems to have gone a bit awry in my combining of 18.

Rather than combining into one of the existing works, a new work has been created http://www.librarything.com/work/10045304. The work page said 2 members had the work (myself and myself - once from the original combination and once from when I tried to fix whatever has gone wrong her).

After I separated out a no-copy edition on the editions page, the member count reset to 9. The cover which appeared in the original work still is not there though in the new work.

What did I do wrong?

24Felagund
Jun 14, 2010, 1:01 am

>19 PhaedraB:, 20
Done.

25carport
Jun 14, 2010, 6:29 am

23> I just poked around because I had seen the cover to Cease Firing before you started to combine. When I look at your link, I see no cover.

But when I go through one of the book's owners, who has two copies, I see two covers:

http://www.librarything.com/work/10045304/book/41108105

http://www.librarything.com/work/10045304/book/39895120

I have noticed similar problems with covers not being visible, but in the past it has seemed to be a problem with early reviewer books.

Hopefully, it will catch up in a few days, although some of the ER covers have not resolved for a couple of months.

26Widsith
Jun 14, 2010, 7:13 am

I combine quite a lot, but can't seem to get these two together:

http://www.librarything.com/work/1446743
http://www.librarything.com/work/9622850

It's a graphic novel, and one is listed under the writer, the other under the illustrator. However, both show lots of variation on this in their "Editions" so I don't know why it won't work.

Thanks in advance

28stortemelk
Jun 14, 2010, 7:30 am

> 26 done

29stortemelk
Jun 14, 2010, 7:35 am

> 27 done

31lemontwist
Jun 14, 2010, 8:16 am

And:
http://www.librarything.com/work/1324894
http://www.librarything.com/work/9105958

Is there some way for me to combine these myself? Sorry to be such a n00b.

32EveleenM
Jun 14, 2010, 8:28 am

#31 lemontwist
To combine a no-author work with one with an author, this will work:
1. Click on the Editions page of the no-author work, and copy one edition line
2. Click on the Manual Entry link from the Add books page
3. Paste the copied information into the correct boxes, and save
4. If all goes well, this will autocombine with the first work (you can tell when this works because the number of other copies will be at least one)
5. Now edit the author line, putting in the author's name, and save. It' a good idea to put a c or other letter on the end of the work title at this step -this makes it less likely that the no-author copy will fall away at the next step and not combine after all (I've no idea why!).
6. This should temporarily move the work to the author's page, dragging all the other copies with it, so click on the author's name
7. Use the combine/separate link on that author's page to combine the two works
8. Delete your temporary copy of the work.
(It may sound complicated but actually doesn't take long).

Things seem to be a bit temperamental with those kind of title-only works: sometimes the autocombine works, sometimes it doesn't, and sometimes the work falls away during the combination and you're left back where you started. In that case, I usually leave it for a while and try again.

33carport
Jun 14, 2010, 8:31 am

>31 lemontwist: I didn't combine these. The second link has zero copies. An authorless version that needs to be combined with your first link is here:

http://www.librarything.com/work/10048360/

Instructions for the various combining techniques and tricks are documented. In this case, someone probably will enter an authorless "dummy" copy, combine with the three authorless copies, then edit the book to add the author name, then be able to combine the works from the author's combine/separate page.

You can find info, and links to info in the combiners' FAQ, referenced in the first post.

34ty1997
Jun 14, 2010, 9:50 am

21> Done

36strande
Jun 14, 2010, 11:50 am

I tried following the combination instructions from the Wiki, but I cannot make it work. To the smart user who figures it out: thank you.
These two works should be combined.
http://www.librarything.com/work/460184
http://www.librarything.com/work/4198693

The second work was manually entered twice by a single user, with a different author than the first work. The book actually has two authors (and somebody made an author record with both names, which led me to start this thread http://www.librarything.com/talktopic.php?topic=92538).

37Felagund
Jun 14, 2010, 1:38 pm

>30 lemontwist:, 35, 36
Done.

39strande
Jun 14, 2010, 3:17 pm

40ty1997
Jun 14, 2010, 3:29 pm

39 > done

41MarthaJeanne
Jun 14, 2010, 4:41 pm

38> I got most of these.

http://www.librarything.com/work/6036249

http://www.librarything.com/work/6018108
need floating. I tryed on the second one, without success.

The last pair still needs combining.

42ty1997
Jun 14, 2010, 5:05 pm

I got the last one from 38.

Didn't do the other ones that require floating.

44KingRat
Jun 15, 2010, 11:56 pm

43- Done.

45ty1997
Edited: Jun 15, 2010, 11:57 pm

This message has been deleted by its author.

47r.orrison
Jun 16, 2010, 9:10 am

46: Done.

482wonderY
Edited: Jun 16, 2010, 11:08 am

Take a look at this title.
http://www.librarything.com/work/2172236/book/57718217
I've checked all 5 libraries that own it, and they each have the subtitle as listed.
But going to the author's page, when I combined seperate listings, it combined WITHOUT the subtitle.
Not generally a problem, but this author has written a series, not just the two variations that are visible.

Is there a way to make it post the entire title on the author page?

Thanks.

Correction: The author has written 2 books in the series. There are at least two others written by other persons. And I'd like to create a series page, but not until the above mentioned issue is resolved.
Thanks again.

49EveleenM
Edited: Jun 16, 2010, 11:11 am

#48
Someone had given it a canonical title, without the subtitle. I've removed the canonical title and now it is showing up on the author page with the correct subtitle.

50sqdancer
Jun 16, 2010, 11:11 am

Someone set the canonical title to "Coming to America" ; you can change it to include the subtitle or blank it out.

512wonderY
Edited: Jun 16, 2010, 11:34 am

Ah! Bless you both.

More to learn all the time.

PS: It was probably me that done it.

522wonderY
Jun 16, 2010, 8:21 pm

I've been busy today.
I managed to lose another round.
Combining works for this title
http://www.librarything.com/work/2060807/book/56233701
and rounding up the author variations, I managed to erase the book from all of the author pages.

How did THAT happen?

53EveleenM
Jun 16, 2010, 8:29 pm

#52 Odd!
I combined a few of the author variations and the book has turned up again, under Herman Harold Rubin http://www.librarything.com/author/rubinhermanharold.

54skittles
Jun 16, 2010, 8:32 pm

#52: it must have been a caching problem because the book is on the author page now....

"interesting" book?!?!

552wonderY
Jun 16, 2010, 8:49 pm

Thanks EveleenM! I was sweating that.

Oh, yes, very interesting.
A few subject headings:

Too Great a Degree of Excitement May Prevent Conception
Will the Negro Disappear?
Women Who Abandon Themselves to Unrestricted Child-Bearing
Intestinal Stagnation
What to Allow a Lover to Do

56MarthaJeanne
Jun 17, 2010, 3:07 am

I just cleared a lot of things out of
National Geographic Guide to the National Parks of the United States
http://www.librarything.com/work/20285
and put in a canonical title (To get rid of an edition number in the title)

Could someone please check for me that it is really clean now? It was a lot of other National Geographic things, and after a while my eyes were having trouble seeing the wrong ones.

I don't dare open up the combine/separate page of
http://www.librarything.com/author/societynationalgeogr
to see what needs combining there. At over 2000 works, it scares me.

57harmen
Edited: Jun 17, 2010, 8:37 am

Hi,
I'm having trouble combing this author:
http://www.librarything.com/author/castreacuteegenevieg
http://www.librarything.com/author/castregenevive

Both are pages for Geneviève Castrée, who should have 3 books in LT now. Somehow when I combine them all I get is:
"by Geneviève Castrée (otherwise under Geneviève Castrée)" for http://www.librarything.com/work/9642846

Obviously the accents are making trouble somewhere, anyone know how to fix it?
Thanks!
Harmen

58theapparatus
Jun 17, 2010, 9:30 am

Working through some of my RPG material and found some problems with the Aftermath! game. If anyone wants to clean it up by combining the multiple copies, please feel free:

http://www.librarything.com/series/Aftermath!%20RPG

I've gone though and assigned product numbers to all of them so you should be able to tell what's what. If not, please feel free to ask.

Thanks,
-drmike

59EveleenM
Jun 17, 2010, 10:09 am

#56 MarthaJeanne

I've looked through the editions page and it appears clean to me,

60Felagund
Jun 17, 2010, 11:09 am

61theapparatus
Jun 17, 2010, 1:50 pm

@Felagund, Thanks. I do point out that one got missed:

http://www.librarything.com/work/9803582
http://www.librarything.com/work/9642821

Thanks again,
-drmike

62MarthaJeanne
Jun 17, 2010, 2:25 pm

63Felagund
Jun 17, 2010, 3:27 pm

>61 theapparatus:
Oops, you're right! Problem solved :-P

64theapparatus
Edited: Jun 17, 2010, 5:56 pm

@Felagund Thanks again.

Going out the door for the night. Could someone combine these please:

http://www.librarything.com/work/8991739

http://www.librarything.com/work/1182622

Thanks,
-drmike

edit: Got lucky. Added the title, got the one without the author so I could add him in there and combine them. Never seems to work that way. :)

66r.orrison
Jun 18, 2010, 5:44 am

65: Done from the author's combine/separate page.

67harmen
Edited: Jun 18, 2010, 7:33 am

Reply for my own problem (#57)
I re-added the books with author 'Genevieve Castree' (same name without the accents) and combined that author with the correct author (Geneviève Castrée).
This way at least the booklist for the accentless version is right, but unfortunately I had to use the wrong (accent-less) spelling in my books :(

So now we have everything under:
http://www.librarything.com/author/castreegenevieve

Is it possible to get the right spelling as the 'main' one? 3 other people used the wrong (accent-less) spelling, so I guess that would count as the majority vote? :(

69romula
Jun 18, 2010, 4:43 pm

I think the following work http://www.librarything.com/work/1792093/editions/51812624 is incorrectly combined with http://www.librarything.com/work/1792093/60653009.

There appears to be two ISBN's involved: 1592221122 and 0898654734.

Thanks.

70theapparatus
Jun 18, 2010, 8:43 pm

Greets:

Could someone combine Roger Moore (1) with Roger E. Moore please? They are the same person.

http://www.librarything.com/author/mooreroger

http://www.librarything.com/author/moorerogere

I could have sworn someone had done this already for me back when they were cleaning up some previous TSR problems.

Thanks,
-drmike

71prosfilaes
Jun 18, 2010, 10:00 pm

#70: You can't combine one split of an author with another author, and generally is disapproved of to combined John X. Smith with John Smith if John Smith is multiple authors.

72carport
Jun 19, 2010, 3:30 am

Hello, please combine these works:

http://www.librarything.com/work/145195/

http://www.librarything.com/work/198742/

As it's a Hawaiian dictionary, I'll say "mahalo!" in advance ("thank you!").

73bell7
Jun 19, 2010, 7:22 am

74theapparatus
Edited: Jun 19, 2010, 8:21 am

#71 Any suggestions on how to deal with the problem? (I know Roger. The E. is kind of important to him for some strange reason.)

75jjwilson61
Jun 19, 2010, 10:52 am

74> You could try floating the works over to the Roger E. page, but I looked at the first one and it's edition page has about 20 Roger Moore's w/o the E and one Roger E. Moore so I don't think it will work.

You could find out where all the E-less Moore's are coming from and if it's Amazon you could ask them to change it. It won't change anything immediately but as more copies are added from the corrected source then they may eventually move over to the right page.

76dtw42
Jun 19, 2010, 12:12 pm

Hi all,

The "Gramohpone" Film Music Good CD Guide came out in three editions over successive years (http://www.librarything.com/work/244472/editions/61307259). I've put in a disambiguation notice indicating which is which. Is the general consensus that this sort of thing should be separate works or not? They're books of reviews, so the editions share a large proportion of content, but each includes new reviews not in the previous, and they each have different forewords by different people. ??

77theapparatus
Edited: Jun 19, 2010, 2:17 pm

Re: 75. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll fiddle with it a bit and see what I can do with it.

edit: And of course I have a thought right as I hit save. Can you combine the two different authors and kick out the ones that don't belong to him?

78jjwilson61
Jun 19, 2010, 2:22 pm

77> Please don't combine those two authors, it would create a mess, although I don't know what you mean by "kick out".

79rybo
Jun 19, 2010, 2:50 pm

I've found a problem with a work and its authors, and I'm asking if someone can please fix it:

Thomas P. Stafford, former NASA astronaut, is the author of 3 works, the most popular being
"We Have Capture" or http://www.librarything.com/work/230122/editions/61312838.

Problem is, the cover shows the author as "Tom Stafford", and I think I combined all editions of the work okay (all the Thomas P. Staffords and the Tom Staffords); however, I'm not sure if things are corrected with

http://www.librarything.com/work/8387/details. It is listed as having only author "Tom Stafford" when the work is really by Tom Stafford (not the astronaut Thomas P. Stafford) and Matt Webb.

So I guess what I'm asking is for someone experienced to (1) make sure all editions of We Have Capture are combined, (2) fix/correct the authors of the work shown to be by Tom Stafford so that it doesn't reflect being written by the astronaut.

Thanks very much for your help.

80stortemelk
Jun 19, 2010, 6:27 pm

> 79

I found one more 'we have capture' and combined it with the rest

About the Stafford/Webb book: it may seem 'wrong' that the book is asigned to just one of the authors, but that is the only way LT can handle multi author works (for now). As long as people adding 'we have capture' correctly as being by Thomas P. Stafford, rather than Tom Stafford, the two works won't end up on the same author page anymore. Have to keep our fingers crossed.

82ty1997
Jun 19, 2010, 10:16 pm

81 > Done

I found a third version of the work under Brian D. Joseph, and combined all copies there:
http://www.librarything.com/work/9589273

83jasbro
Jun 19, 2010, 10:38 pm

Can http://www.librarything.com/work/4982603 be combined with http://www.librarything.com/work/730460, with Clint Willis as author? Thank you.

84ty1997
Jun 20, 2010, 12:03 am

83> done

85theapparatus
Edited: Jun 20, 2010, 4:44 pm

Could someone please try to combine these? The Various authors page is just way to big for me to load from here:

http://www.librarything.com/work/792259

http://www.librarything.com/work/10073314/

The editor is Dave Gross if you feel like changing that afterwards. (Or if you can use that to help fix the issue.)

Thanks,
-drmike

edit: These two as well:

http://www.librarything.com/work/1162776

http://www.librarything.com/work/5382616

Thanks again

also:

http://www.librarything.com/work/4528579

http://www.librarything.com/work/8050717

And:

http://www.librarything.com/work/4528583

http://www.librarything.com/work/10073692

86agneson9
Jun 21, 2010, 12:51 pm

Anthology 4
http://www.librarything.com/work/10076411
http://www.librarything.com/work/10076381

There are four anthologies with the UK/AU being the same and the US one different (in content), I think.

87theapparatus
Jun 21, 2010, 1:20 pm

Been meaning to ask. Do hardcover versions get combined with paperback editions if they're the same book?

Thanks,
-drmike

882wonderY
Jun 21, 2010, 1:56 pm

drmike,

Here's a brief discussion on that question:
http://www.librarything.com/concepts

89lorax
Jun 21, 2010, 2:23 pm

87>

Yes.

90theapparatus
Jun 21, 2010, 4:52 pm

Re: 87-89: Thanks. Just wanted to make sure.

91Sundry
Jun 22, 2010, 8:05 am

I'm not sure if this is the right thread for my question.

Problem page:
http://www.librarything.com/author/scarboroughelizabeth

I just noticed that the author's name on this page has been changed from Elizabeth Ann Scarborough to something long, and screwy. I've had Scarborough as a favorite author for a while, and her name appeared correctly when I first added her as a favorite author.

I have no knowledge as to how this happened, or how to fix it. Any help will be appreciated.

92theapparatus
Edited: Jun 22, 2010, 9:35 am

Anyone remember all those Dragon Magazines that got worked on a few months back?

Someone just added in 40 of them as new.

*sigh*

edit: If anyone has the urge, here's a link to the series:

http://www.librarything.com/series/Dragon+Magazine

Also Issues 38 and under should be named "The Dragon", not Dragon Magazine.

This just wants to make me cry as I;ve been trying to add in editors and was planning on going back through and adding in the article writers and the cover artists.

93tjsjohanna
Jun 22, 2010, 9:46 am

>91 Sundry:
Not sure exactly what was the problem. I deleted the canonical name and saved (so then there was no author name). Then I re-entered the canonical name (which appeared to be correct in the first place) and now it seems to be correct (but no guarantees that it will stay fixed!)

94Sundry
Jun 22, 2010, 9:49 am

>93 tjsjohanna:
The only part I understand is "now it seems to be correct." :-)

Thank you for fixing it!

95tjsjohanna
Jun 22, 2010, 10:14 am

>94 Sundry: glad to help!

96jasbro
Edited: Jun 22, 2010, 11:08 am

I believe http://www.librarything.com/work/9508719 should be combined with http://www.librarything.com/work/26134. Can you help, or advise how to do it? Thanks!

(ETC spelling)

97MarthaJeanne
Edited: Jun 22, 2010, 11:45 am

96> Given that one of the works has no author, putting it here is the easiest way of dealing with it. I can't deal with that sort of problem, but there are people here who can.

98davesmind
Jun 22, 2010, 4:02 pm

I think I am a bit confused about combining. The book "The Invisible Gorilla" has two authors but was treated as just one. I tried splitting the authors, but now have two separate entries for the same book. This book should have one entry with two authors.
Thanks, Dave

http://www.librarything.com/work/10073990

http://www.librarything.com/work/9748519

99jjwilson61
Jun 22, 2010, 4:13 pm

98> A book on LT can only have one primary author. That's the way it is, so just choose one to be the primary author and make the other one an other author.

100rybie2
Jun 22, 2010, 10:58 pm

Is there a way that anyone can make "Neil A. Armstrong" the former NASA astronaut, combined with "Neil Armstrong" (but not the Neil Armstrong designated as "unknown" with works on knitting, for example)? All the CK for Neil Armstrong is indeed that of Neil A. Armstrong (former astronaut), if that's of any help.

And thanks for any help.

101davesmind
Jun 23, 2010, 12:15 am

One of these versions (my version) has Dan Simons as a secondary author, however, most copies show this as a single author. How do I combine them so that the new single combined version has Dan Simons as a secondary author?

Right now they are not combined and I don't see a way to combine them.

http://www.librarything.com/work/10073990

http://www.librarything.com/work/9748519

102kathrynnd
Jun 24, 2010, 7:00 pm

These will end up on the wrong author page and a single surname one at that, but could someone please combine

http://www.librarything.com/work/1376637
http://www.librarything.com/work/3083504

Update has been sent to amazon

104MarthaJeanne
Edited: Jun 28, 2010, 3:39 am

103> I don't think these should be combined. There is one copy of each with the same member owning them, and one of those is in a series called Dramatic Readings.

105Stevil2001
Jun 28, 2010, 8:50 am

> 104

I don't know why the one user has listed it two different ways, but they're definitely the same thing. There's only ever been one Dark Shadows story called The Ghost Watcher, which was an audiobook written by Stuart Manning and performed by Kathryn Leigh Scott. The reason only one of them is in the series is because I am who put them in the series, and it seemed dumb to do both when they were about to be combined.

106prosfilaes
Jun 28, 2010, 11:14 am

Please combine Bukedo al Vi by Feng Ĝjicaj and Bukedo al Vi by Various.

http://www.librarything.com/work/9092348
http://www.librarything.com/work/8526521

108dtw42
Edited: Jun 29, 2010, 6:35 am

http://www.librarything.com/work/3695507 and
http://www.librarything.com/work/5148479 are the same.

(The latter is owned by more LTers and has more complete author info in it)

Thanks

109MarthaJeanne
Jun 29, 2010, 10:24 am

http://www.librarything.com/work/3709666
http://www.librarything.com/work/110524

I suspect that these are the same. One is Dutch. Any other opinions?

110MarthaJeanne
Jun 29, 2010, 10:48 am

111ateolf
Jun 29, 2010, 1:32 pm

I noticed that some of Gabriel Garcia Marquez( http://www.librarything.com/author/marquezgabrielgarcia )'s books are misnamed as Gabriel( http://www.librarything.com/author/gabriel ). As Gabriel is such a generic name, it has books by other random people. I split the author (the one I want to combine as (1) and the rest as (unknown)), but am unable to figure out how to combine the correct books with the proper author without taking along the extra stuff.

112kathrynnd
Jun 29, 2010, 2:23 pm

>>msg 111 I don't have time for this now, but could someone take a look at the Dragonheart books on the Gabriel page - looks like the novelization by Adrien Gabriel (isbn 0843139609) is combined with the Penguin Reader retelling of the novelization by Joanna Strange.

With the way the LT author system is working now I don't think it really matters whether works end up on the proper author page or not, better that the 'proper' books are combined together though.

113henkl
Jun 29, 2010, 2:42 pm

109> They are definitely the same work. "Geschiedenis van de opera" is the Dutch translation of "Story of the Opera".

114rybie2
Jun 30, 2010, 10:22 pm

Can anyone help with my problem detailed in message #100? If I'm asking for something not reasonable, possible or beneficial, just tell me and I'll live with another of life's little injustices ;-)

115lorax
Edited: Jun 30, 2010, 10:52 pm

114>

Not possible. You can't combine an author with a subset (a "split") of another author, and you shouldn't combine a middle-initial author with the same name without the middle initial unless there's only one author on the one without the middle initial.

Edited to add:

When we get true author disambiguation, and separate pages for identically-named authors, you'll be able to do that. We're promised that's coming "soon", which I think is a little longer than "two weeks".

116Yoiyami
Jul 1, 2010, 1:06 am

I tried fixing this book but have gotten overwhelmed.

http://www.librarything.com/work/1707549/covers/61590685

It's supposed to be volume 4 of the Suikoden 3 manga series by Aki Shimizu.

I have already split off two books that are totally different series in the editions section. But it looks like over half of the books are incorrectly paired as the same book and I have no idea what will happen if I go through and split off everything; are there going to be splinted files all over the place?

There are multiple covers and only one of them is correct. Three of the covers are for text books and the other three are unrelated manga series.

It is also listed as part of a Dynasty Warriors 4 series (which is just as problem riddled, as a travel guide to Japan does not belong either!).

I can not read the language, but I am going to assume that the 'otherwise known as' is also incorrect.

Help?

1172wonderY
Jul 1, 2010, 1:25 pm

This book
http://www.librarything.com/work/5686497

got entered by one member by author's first name only and got tied to an older author who used the same first name as a pseudonym.

Is it possible to establish Rita B. Hays on a seperate page?

118rybie2
Jul 1, 2010, 1:28 pm

115: Thanks for the explanations.

119jjwilson61
Jul 1, 2010, 1:50 pm

I'm confused. Is "Rita" {pseudonym of Eliza Margaret J. Humphreys} (brackets replaced by curly bracket) the actual name that was entered, or is the "pseudonym of" part added by LT as part of some pseudonym feature? Presuming the former since I don't recall there being a pseudonym feature, then why is the name Rita in the editions getting linked to it, since they aren't combined as far as I can tell?

1202wonderY
Edited: Jul 1, 2010, 1:58 pm

I think an owner of a "Rita" book entered the full name of the circa 1900 author in brackets. Then the first owner of The Children's Minister listed his author as just Rita, and it got put on the same author page. Succeeding entries got added as well.

I just seperated the three authors on that page. I'm hoping the Spam entry gets removed altogether.

121EveleenM
Jul 1, 2010, 2:06 pm

I think that's yet another case where someone has entered a non-obvious canonical name, and it's confusing things for everyone else. I'll change the canonical name to 'Rita', and that should allow for the other authors in the split.

122jjwilson61
Jul 1, 2010, 5:22 pm

Thanks, that clears things up. Shouldn't the CK be removed since the author it refers to only has 5 copies of books to the next more prolific author having 4?

1232wonderY
Jul 1, 2010, 7:43 pm

The second author should obviously have her own page with her full name and her own CK entry.

124VisibleGhost
Jul 2, 2010, 6:20 am

I've been working on separating/combining http://www.librarything.com/work/10155 for a bit. Still have a ways to go. Help appreciated.

125skittles
Jul 2, 2010, 7:23 am

#124: all separated. ready for combining. all that is left in your link is a zero copy mess. possibly CK info, but I'm not moving that. I started at around 500. it is zero now.

have a nice day.

(returning to crummy mood)

126EveleenM
Jul 2, 2010, 7:25 am

#124
I've done a batch of the Naked and the Dead editions.

127VisibleGhost
Jul 2, 2010, 7:28 am

Thx, skittles & EveleenM. My mouse fingers were getting tired.

128EveleenM
Jul 2, 2010, 7:49 am

You're welcome!
I separated out and correctly combined all the zero-copy editions I could recognise, as well.

129jasbro
Edited: Jul 3, 2010, 9:56 am

If any Combiners can lend a hand, I've started a Gargantuan (but not Sysiphean) clean-up of LT's Series on J.R.R. Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings.

I'm focused first on separating apparently mis-combined copies from The Fellowship of the Ring (Volume I, Books 1 & 2; http://www.librarything.com/work/3203347), and recombining the separations where the seem to belong. Other titles identified with this Series include:

a) The Silmarillion (as a first prequel; http://www.librarything.com/work/3203319);
b) The Hobbit (as a second prequel; http://www.librarything.com/work/3206242);
c) The Two Towers (Volume II, Books 3 & 4; http://www.librarything.com/work/3203350); );
d) The Return of the King (Volume III, Books 5 & 6; http://www.librarything.com/work/3203356);
e) the "Trilogy" (Volumes I, II and III together; http://www.librarything.com/work/1386651); and
f) The Hobbit and the Trilogy together (currently described as a "Boxed Set"; http://www.librarything.com/work/4881).

I'm also finding separate LT works that should be added to the Series, including Appendices and individual Books (e.g.: The Ring Sets Out, http://www.librarything.com/work/3213409; The Ring Goes South, http://www.librarything.com/work/3213461; and The War of the Rings, http://www.librarything.com/work/7642592 -- this fifth Book of LOTR being especially difficult, as it uses the same title as Volume VIII in Christopher Tolkien's edited series, "The History of Middle Earth"). Similarly, there are numerous audio recordings, films/movies/videos/DVDs, dramatizations, fotobooks {sic}, which need combining or separating per LT standards.

All participation is welcome and greatly appreciated. Thanks!

ETA clarity.

130jasbro
Jul 3, 2010, 9:52 am

Two questions to follow on 129>: Should we migrate that discussion to a thread of its own? And, if so, can someone help me do that? Thanks again!

131carport
Edited: Jul 3, 2010, 6:41 pm

129 and 130> Hi jasbro, I started a thread here: http://www.librarything.com/topic/94222.

132fdholt
Jul 4, 2010, 10:01 am

I just stumbled on this "no title" which I think should be Talk, talk by Boyle:

http://www.librarything.com/work/908254&book=12723558

Could someone look at it?

Thanks

133MarthaJeanne
Jul 4, 2010, 10:16 am

This message has been deleted by its author.

134sqdancer
Edited: Jul 4, 2010, 3:55 pm

>132 fdholt:
The work itself is fine (you can see by deleting the "&book=12723558" part of the URL). http://www.librarything.com/work/908254

Where did you stumble upon that particular book entry?

135skittles
Jul 4, 2010, 4:11 pm

probably following an old link?

136fdholt
Jul 4, 2010, 8:30 pm

>134 sqdancer:, 135

Yes, through a thread, reading old messages. Thanks for the reply.

137Yoiyami
Jul 4, 2010, 8:46 pm

As my last message was not addressed, I went through and at least cleaned up my book.

Can someone please combine these two?

http://www.librarything.com/work/10128797/book/61590685

http://www.librarything.com/work/641275

138skittles
Jul 4, 2010, 8:53 pm

#137: done.

my computer doesn't recognize japanese (?) characters so I don't usually combine works with titles I cannot verify in some way. But this time I did.

We (the people on this forum) are not perfect & cannot do everything... we miss things, too!!

A gentle nudge is often all that is needed... many of us only check the last few posts in the thread... assuming, sometimes wrongly, that someone else may have taken care of previous requests... and not posted that they had done so.

Thank you for posting.

140r.orrison
Jul 5, 2010, 6:36 am

139: Done

142rybie2
Jul 5, 2010, 8:17 am

Can someone please separate/fix this author problem? Apparently member http://www.librarything.com/profile/Kevon is promoting his book "Far From Heaven" (http://www.librarything.com/work/10125643/book/61807072) and his name (Kevin Scott) was combined with author Ken Scott (http://www.librarything.com/author/scottken).

I had no hand in how this came to be, so I can't give you any other details other than how I came across the problem, which was via recent author pictures (where the member had uploaded the cover of the book to the author image page); I flagged it, he removed the cover, and asked me if I'd read his book... then I looked at it, and thought it best to bring the problem here for experts to figure out.

143skittles
Jul 5, 2010, 8:39 am

#142: the author is listed as being Ken Scott, so the books will appear with all other books by Ken Scott, whether or not it is also "Kevon". At this time, there is no way to give each Ken Scott their own page. There is author 'splitting' but not individual pages for each author with a shared name.

The only way that "Kevon" can have his own page is to change the author's name to Kevon, but it will only appear that way as long as the majority of people who have that book enter the author as Kevon, not as Ken Scott. When Ken Scott becomes the majority author it will disappear from the Kevon author page & appear on the Ken Scott page.

Does that help you understand what has happened?

144rybie2
Jul 5, 2010, 8:56 am

143: Everything you wrote made sense, except the first part about the author BEING Ken Scott... so I just looked again to find that while the book details have Author: Scott Ken(kevon) - the work details have Author: Ken Scott. I didn't know that the book author could be different from the work author, but maybe that's because there's only one copy of the um... book? work? out there. At any rate, thanks very much for the explanation, and I appreciate being able to give anything above my comfort level to the friendly gang at this group.

145skittles
Jul 5, 2010, 9:05 am

#141: done

147skittles
Jul 5, 2010, 9:07 am

#144: Sometimes information in parenthesis is not read by the database... so the database only reads Scott, Ken not Scott, Ken(Kevon).

Was the book manually entered, or imported from Amazon or a library?

148rybie2
Jul 5, 2010, 9:20 am

#147: Sorry, skittles, but I don't know. I didn't enter the book, I don't have it or want it, and I don't know of or have any interest in the author. I suppose my only interest in the whole thing was to be sure there was no author combination or contamination by a new member/author ;-)

150skittles
Jul 5, 2010, 9:30 am

#149: are they all the same book? there are two different titles. or are the alike titles the only ones that need combining?

When you post a request, please let the combiner know what they are combining, so we are assured that we are combining works that actually should be combined.

151mene
Edited: Jul 5, 2010, 9:34 am

How can I split two books? They're imported by ISBN from Amazon.co.jp and Librarything gets the correct books, but thinks they're the same. However, they're number 1 and 4 in a series and certainly not the same:

http://www.librarything.com/work/3023570/book/61852155 (number 1)
http://www.librarything.com/work/3023570/book/44868990 (number 4)

Other books which it says are duplicates but aren't:
http://www.librarything.com/work/3323036/18154590
http://www.librarything.com/work/3323036/35735732

http://www.librarything.com/work/2172926/18157904
http://www.librarything.com/work/2172926/18378116

152MarthaJeanne
Edited: Jul 5, 2010, 9:41 am

149> 2994892 is certainly not the same as the other three.

153MarthaJeanne
Edited: Jul 5, 2010, 9:41 am

151> You separate on the editions page of the work.

Look down the links on the left hand side of the page for editions. On that page you click on separate on the copy that is wrong.

154markbarnes
Jul 5, 2010, 9:41 am

#150: Apologies for the bad URL in the earlier list. Here's the correct list:

http://www.librarything.com/work/2014976
http://www.librarything.com/work/4574753
http://www.librarything.com/work/4765094
http://www.librarything.com/work/4458789

The work is Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers: First Series: Volume 12: Saint Chrysostom: Homilies on First and Second Corinthians.

155markbarnes
Edited: Jul 5, 2010, 9:47 am

And here's another:

http://www.librarything.com/work/4458788
http://www.librarything.com/work/4574755

The work is Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers: First Series: Volume 13: Saint Chrysostom: Homilies on the Epistles to the Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, Thessalonians, and the Epistles to Timothy, Titus, and Philemon.

Thanks.

156skittles
Jul 5, 2010, 9:48 am

#154: done, but check the work for title & covers & CK

157skittles
Jul 5, 2010, 9:49 am

#155: done

158kassetra
Jul 5, 2010, 1:41 pm

I've found a small issue and a large issue with an Author and his books.

The small issue, these two books are the same book, same edition (different market), and are listed by Oxford (the publisher) as the same title (Physical Chemistry, not Atkins' Physical Chemistry), but they are two separate books here on LT:
http://www.librarything.com/work/7836111
http://www.librarything.com/work/136446/book/59390250

The large issue
Both of those books should be by this author (but aren't):
http://www.librarything.com/author/atkinspw

And this author is a combination of people that aren't the same.
http://www.librarything.com/author/atkinspeter

Peter Atkins (1) (from the atkinspeter page) is the same author as atkinspw.
PW Atkins / Peter W. Atkins / Peter Atkins is this author (and is rightfully atkinspw):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Atkins
http://worldcat.org/identities/lccn-n50-27000
A very famous physical chemist in england.

Peter Atkins (3) on the atkinspeter page is this author:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0040643/bio
That writes horror / scripts.

I don't know who the other Peter Atkins (2, 5, unknown) are, but I know they aren't 1 and 3 (unless 3 writes clive barker / wes craven horror AND christian!)

So, the books need to be moved and the authors need to be splitted/combined. Help! I didn't touch anything because it seemed like a much bigger thing once I looked at why I didn't have the right number of books by atkinspw.

(Even Amazon has these two authors wrong!)

159EveleenM
Edited: Jul 5, 2010, 2:21 pm

#158
I've combined
http://www.librarything.com/work/7836111 and http://www.librarything.com/work/136446/book/59390250.

One confusing thing about the author was that the P. W. Atkins page had been canonically renamed Peter Atkins: I've changed this to Peter W. Atkins, which should make things clearer.

As for the books by Peter W. Atkins which are on the Peter Atkins page: this is because more people have entered them with that name - presumably because amazon have them wrong. If you have an Amazon account, you can contact them and ask them to correct this.

Because of those other Peter Atkins, the two pages shouldn't be combined. The best we can do until full author splitting arrives (which may be a long time!) is to note it in the disambiguation notice.

Edited to add:
The Physical Chemistry book is now listed under Peter W. Atkins: if your own copy still has Peter Atkins listed, you need to edit your book page to change the name.

160kassetra
Jul 5, 2010, 2:38 pm

1. Wow, you're fast.
2. Awesome, and, you're fast! :)

Right, normally he's just listed as "Peter Atkins" at amazon and OUP because up until recently, his was the only name in print. Now wikipedia and some other places have started listing him as Peter W. Atkins (probably for disambiguation purposes) -- but he's still "Peter Atkins" at OUP, so amazon probably won't fix it completely until OUP decides to list it differently -- which they possibly won't do in order to distinguish his textbooks from his non-textbooks (what a mess).

I'll fix any books that didn't get fixed in my library. :)

161EveleenM
Jul 5, 2010, 2:46 pm

#160 You're welcome!

162fdholt
Edited: Jul 5, 2010, 4:06 pm

I am looking at my copy of Reader's Digest complete guide to needlework which lists the editor as Virginia Colton. (84 copies seemed too few members for the many editions over the years.)

http://www.librarything.com/author/coltonvirginia

When I looked at the editions page, I saw this:

http://www.librarything.com/work/8465294/editions/58233232

It is combined with Colton's Reader's Digest complete guide to sewing. They are definitely not the same book. One is sewing, one is the many other forms of needlework. I think when I imported my record, Reader's Digest was author on the sewing guide and I removed RD as author from my catalog. Didn't matter to me since the book was combined correctly.

What I really wanted to do was combine the first 2 items on this list

http://www.librarything.com/search_works.php?q=guide+to+needlework

and possibly the one or stray 1 copy items later on that list.

This problem is beyond my ability to fix - not simple and definitely not for a new member.

Thanks

Fianna

Edited to add: Complete guide to sewing is:
http://www.librarything.com/work/325792/edit/60324510
in my catalog

163skittles
Edited: Jul 5, 2010, 4:32 pm

164Yoiyami
Jul 5, 2010, 4:40 pm

# 138 Thank you for combining them.

I generally verify by checking the isbn and covers, which is how I figured out that two different series had been lumped in with a text book series.

I had waited and when there was no response and no change, I just did what I knew how to. I will keep the language barrier in mind for next time.

165skittles
Jul 5, 2010, 4:47 pm

#164: and I understand that you verified the isbns, but as a combiner, it is my username that appears on the combining log, not yours.

I'd rather not have someone PM me to tell me that I combined the translations of War and Peace with The Snowy Day.

It would be due to the URL being cut off or something silly... but I still like to verify and it is hard to do sometimes.

166Tatarana
Jul 5, 2010, 7:36 pm

Hi, can someone who knows how to do it without having to enter in the giant Agatha Christie and Miguel de Cervantes author pages combine these two books:

http://www.librarything.com/work/8034026/book/42479847

http://www.librarything.com/work/15542

and these two books:

http://www.librarything.com/work/9683853/book/51880264

http://www.librarything.com/work/7955846

Thanks.

167bell7
Jul 6, 2010, 9:39 am

>166 Tatarana: Tatarana, sometimes you can look at the "suggested" list on the editions page, but the works you're looking for are not coming up that way, so I've combined the Agatha Christie book from the author page and am working on Don Quixote now.

168Tatarana
Jul 6, 2010, 10:04 am

Thanks, bell7, really appreciated it.

169fdholt
Jul 6, 2010, 10:58 am

#163

Thanks skittles!

170MarthaJeanne
Jul 6, 2010, 12:11 pm

171EveleenM
Edited: Jul 6, 2010, 12:28 pm

#170 done.

edited to add: I noticed that the John Gabriel Stedman page was combined with the John Stedman author page, which had works by two different authors, so I've separated them.

172MarthaJeanne
Jul 6, 2010, 12:32 pm

173EveleenM
Jul 6, 2010, 12:52 pm

#172 done.

174kathrynnd
Jul 6, 2010, 12:52 pm

Speaking of Gabriel, (msg 111, 112), I heard back from Amazon and they have changed the first listed author for the Penguin adaptation of Dragonheart to Joanna Strange.

I notice someone just did an excellent reworking of the Gabriel distinct author disambiguation notice today linking to Adriana Gabriel as author, which information is still correct, as that was the intended author entry for the work.

175tjsjohanna
Jul 6, 2010, 1:24 pm

I moved all the works I could off the "Gabriel" page. There's a disambiguation message for that version of "Dragonheart" that notes it is actually written by Joanna Strange (it's an adaptation of a junior novelization of a novelization of a movie, for heavens sakes!), but since there are NO entries with Joanna Strange, no way to move it there.

176jasbro
Jul 7, 2010, 6:01 pm

138> Does anyone else use on-line translation engines to decipher foreign language entries? I'm having good results (I think) at http://translation.imtranslator.net/translate/default.asp . This one's powered by Google, so I understand it trolls the Internet for matches, rather than actually discerning the literal sense of characters and words; but, since I'm looking to match titles, the results seem helpful when it turns one up. (Somebody be sure to let me know if using on-line translators is bad LT form!)

177carport
Jul 7, 2010, 7:05 pm

176> Thanks jasbro, I've bookmarked your post.

178Heather19
Jul 8, 2010, 7:11 pm

question for more-experienced combiners then me?

http://www.librarything.com/work/723166/editions

This adaption of Cinderella, the editions page shows both the one by Marcia Brown AND Charles Perrault. I've looked around a bit and it doesn't seem like they are the same (different wording, etc), but since they are both adaptations on the same story does that mean they are to be combined? I'm not familiar with the rules for much-adapted stories like this.

179jasbro
Jul 9, 2010, 6:48 pm

178> I believe each author's adaptation is a work unto itself. Each should be separated from any other authors' adaptation(s), and combined only with other copies or editions of the same (i.e., Marcia Brown combined only with other Marcia Brown, and Charles Perrault combined only with Charles Perrault). Does anyone disagree?

180jjwilson61
Jul 9, 2010, 6:52 pm

Yes, adaptations are substantially different from the originals and other adaptations and should be separate works.

181myshelves
Jul 9, 2010, 9:16 pm

182skittles
Jul 9, 2010, 9:40 pm

#181: You followed an old link to an individual book, not the work.

This is the work:

http://www.librarything.com/work/3753966

next time you see that, go to editions & you'll see the title... or just remove the /book/##### & you'll see what the book is.

If you got the link from someone's library, there may be a problem

183DemetriosX
Jul 10, 2010, 6:21 am

These two books are the same:

http://www.librarything.com/work/5241433
http://www.librarything.com/work/9587231

The first one just doesn't have an author given.

184skittles
Jul 10, 2010, 8:40 am

#183: done.

186myshelves
Edited: Jul 10, 2010, 7:44 pm

#182

Thanks.

Actually, I followed the link from my "Add Books" page. That link still takes me to a mixed up page. But I had tried separating (my Doyle book was in with editions of the atheist book.) Maybe that finally caught up. I now get to the right page from my catalog or by clicking my "recently added" cover. All's well that ends. :-)

ETA: But I see that the cover I uploaded to the correct page is also available for the other work.

188skittles
Jul 11, 2010, 3:37 pm

#187: done but please check that it is right because the links gave me some problems... I switched to the English language site to combine them.

189fdholt
Jul 11, 2010, 3:50 pm

I have a copy of the King James version of the Bible:

http://www.librarything.com/work/8529804

http://www.librarything.com/work/8529804/edit/60753812 (my page)

Other than a unique title (and on the work page a really strange author), it has nothing that would make it different from my other KJ versions and I think it should be combined with:

http://www.librarything.com/work/306947

I am hesitant to try since there are so many versions of the Bible.

Could someone look at this?

At the same time, when looking at the member covers for the latter, half way down, there is a picture of a man. Should that be there?

Thanks

190Talvitar
Jul 11, 2010, 4:54 pm

>188 skittles:: Skittles, it seems to be combined just the way I wanted (but couldn't figure out how to do it myself) -- thanks a lot :)

191skittles
Jul 11, 2010, 6:32 pm

#190: you are welcome.

#189:

Here is the pic:
http://pics.librarything.com/picsizes/f2/e1/f2e17eab08edcad592b4e6c54674141414c3...

and I think it was uploaded instead of a cover by mistake... I hope.

I've posted his picture & the link to the covers page on the bug collectors forum....

I should have posted it by saying, "Does anyone recognize this gentleman? He's actually a cover for a King James Bible. If you see him, can you put him back on the bookshelf?"

192prosfilaes
Jul 12, 2010, 12:00 am

Can someone combine GURPS Module Prime Alpha and GURPS Module Prime Alpha by Stephen V. Cole, both ISBN 1585640344? Thanks.

http://www.librarything.com/work/5422632
http://www.librarything.com/work/1624091

193joannasephine
Jul 12, 2010, 2:06 am

This one has been bugging me for ages:

listening to the rain

I confess I was the original mess-up, and have no idea how to untangle the authorship problems.

It's an anthology that was edited by two people: Cyril Childs and Joanna Preston. (Yep, me!)
We're currently tangled into some sort of monstrous Gordian-knot-creature, Preston Joanna ed. Childs Cyril.

Could someone fix it? (Free, free, set them free …)

194skittles
Edited: Jul 12, 2010, 7:45 am

#193: 2 copies of the book are listed as edited by CW Childs, 1 by Cyril Childs & 2 by Preston Joanna ed Childs Cyril. The main work lists the author/editor as Preston Joanna ed Childs Cyril.

I tried separating & re-combining to float a single person to the top as editor, but the joint name was insistent that they were going to win.

The double name listing is something only the owners of the work can change and majority author wins... in this case, a double author.

If you want the work to appear on your author page, there needs to be more works on LT with only your name as the author/editor.

As LT is right now, a work cannot appear on two author pages even if it was written equally by two different people. Eventually, there is supposed to be a fix, but for now, this is it.

ETA: Someone else has played with it & gotten it on Cyril's page.

195Talvitar
Jul 12, 2010, 12:09 pm

Pls combine:
http://fi.librarything.com/work/8749407
http://fi.librarything.com/work/4592199

The first one is my copy -- just noticed it didn't have ISBN (which the other one has) so maybe that's the main reason the works hadn't "found each other" already.
Now that I've added the isbn, would they combine on their own at some point, or does it require someone to do it?

196skittles
Jul 12, 2010, 12:46 pm

#195: done.

197upstairsgirl
Jul 12, 2010, 2:20 pm

Would someone mind using their combine-fu on the following three works:
http://www.librarything.com/work/3411924
http://www.librarything.com/work/633971
http://www.librarything.com/work/10149601 ?

Thanks!

198r.orrison
Jul 12, 2010, 2:30 pm

197: Done

199y2pk
Jul 12, 2010, 3:22 pm

These two books are showing up as duplicates in my library, but should be considered distinct books. Could someone please help with separating them?
Thank you!

This book is BY Elinore Pruitt Stewart.
http://www.librarything.com/work/20254/book/47938596
Letters of a Woman Homesteader (Women of the West)
Elinore Pruitt Stewart
Bison Books (1990), Paperback, 282 pages

This is a book BY Susanne K. George (editor and biographer), ABOUT Elinore Pruitt Stewart.
http://www.librarything.com/work/20254/book/62053551
The Adventures of The Woman Homesteader: The Life and Letters of Elinore Pruitt Stewart (Women in the West)
Elinore Pruitt Stewart (this line should be showing Susanne K. George)
University of Nebraska Press (1992), Hardcover, 240 pages

200EveleenM
Edited: Jul 12, 2010, 3:58 pm

#199
I've separated out the copies that had Elinore Pruitt Stewart as the author, and combined them into http://www.librarything.com/work/1367690. This work shows the author as Susanne George Bloomfield, though, not Suzanne K. George as you said. Since there were some editions with each name as the author, I assumed this was a case of original name/married name for the same person, so I combined the two name Susanne K. George and Susanne George Bloomfield. Is that okay?

201y2pk
Edited: Jul 12, 2010, 4:18 pm

> 200

Yes, that's great. Thank you!

202EveleenM
Jul 12, 2010, 4:29 pm

You're welcome!

203TQSI
Jul 12, 2010, 5:29 pm

OK. I am stumped. I have a a book that is not been handled properly and I do not (yet) know how to make it right. And tried some newbie obvious stuff and I may have added some garbage in the LT DB that now needs to be gotten rid of.

The book was entered manually. It is named Christmas Books by Charles Dickens. It is a Quality Paperback Book Club edition from 1998.

When I entered it, it was connected to an 1852 work that is definitely not the original edition of my book:

http://www.librarything.com/work/100791/62123487

A complication for the book is that the printed ISBN on the book is not considered valid by LT.

I could not find it on the editions list so I did something that seems reasonable to me and that was I changed the name of the book to make it unique. First I changed it to "Christmas Books QPBC" but that did not see to pop up anything on the editions list. And then I changed it to "QPBC Christmas Books" and that did show up.

So I was able to separate the Book from the work and entered a new work with a clear disambiguation message.

Then when I went back and changed the name back to "Christmas Books", LT re-connected it to the 1852 work.

I then did add new books to access the proper work:

http://www.librarything.com/work/10159247/62127150
http://www.librarything.com/work/10159247/62127083

And when I look at the Editions I see a bunch of garbage that seems to be ghosts of my Christmas Past.

http://www.librarything.com/work/10159247/editions/62127083

Could someone please help clean this garbage up and get the book I have connected to the proper work and also walk me through what I would need to do in the future? Obviously, there is some tool that I do not know how to use or even know it exists.

thanks,

john.

205kathrynnd
Jul 12, 2010, 7:04 pm

>>203 TQSI: TQSI try removing the hyphens from the ISBN in your manual entry and your edition should link up to the main work.

I don't have a copy of the book in hand (and finding information about QPBC editions in normal sources such as WorldCat is difficult) so I googled the isbn and came up with a copy of the MARC record from Athens County Public Libraries in Georgia. This has a field for contents and the five stories are the same as the original Dicken's Christmas Books collection as far as I can tell, so it does appear your copy belongs with that work.

http://search.athenscounty.lib.oh.us/cgi-bin/koha/opac-MARCdetail.pl?biblionumbe...

206TQSI
Jul 13, 2010, 12:34 am

#205
I thought that also, at first, but the main (1852) work has 6 stories. I do not recall what the 6th item was. I do not want to hook up with the 1852 work, but the different work that I created by manually entering a book with the a bogus book title so I could create the work I was interested in.

However, after getting my book connected to the book I wanted it connected to, I edited the book title to just "Christmas Books" and LT instantly connected the book back to the work I did not want to be connected to.

Or, maybe I did not understand your comment????

john.

207kathrynnd
Jul 13, 2010, 1:00 am

>>206 TQSI: I was confused when I first looked at the list of five stories in the disambiguation notice too, there are only five....at least in the top two that I checked, the Oxford Illustrated Dickens and Wordsworth Classics.

http://www.librarything.com/work/100791/editions

Though it looks like two, The Haunted Man and the Ghost's Bargain is the full title of the fifth story.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Haunted_Man_and_the_Ghost%E2%80%99s_Bargain

I hope this helps.

208TQSI
Jul 13, 2010, 10:59 am

#207
Wow. You are right!

The only place the "subtitle" is used in the book is on the first page of the actual story in the book. Not in the table of contents, etc.

I still do not know if this book is derived from the 1852 work - seems likely - but because of the illustrations, I would want to be sure.

And I still have all of the garbage that I created that needs to be dealt with.

It already appears that folks have combined a lot of books into that work that have different content. I do not know this well enough to try to sort this out.

Advice, please.

209theapparatus
Jul 13, 2010, 5:52 pm

Folks, we need to move over to a new thread as this has reached 200 posts. I can;t copy and paste today so someone else is going to have to do it.

>192 prosfilaes:: Nice to see someone else working on the RPG stuff around here. :)

210keristars
Jul 13, 2010, 6:02 pm