Combining/Separating (Please Fix This Book!) Request Thread #24!!!

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Combining/Separating (Please Fix This Book!) Request Thread #24!!!

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1theapparatus
May 6, 2010, 9:35 am

This thread is for LT'ers or thingamabrarians, or members, or their designees, to post combining or separating problems with their books.
**If a book has been combined with a book that is extremely different from the original.
**If a book won't combine with the other books just like it.
**There is a problem with the entry & it is just too overwhelming to deal with.
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It has been suggested many times that there be a single thread for LT'ers to post combining & separating problems so that;
** they can learn how to do it
** they can get help when needed
** just want someone else to do it (usually, they can't understand how to do it... which is normal... or don't have the time)
**and finally, those LT'ers who "enjoy" combining can have a place to look to first to see what fun can be had helping LT be the best place to catalog books.
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WHEN YOU POST:
Please give us HYPERLINKS or URLs, not touchstones. Hyperlinks to the pages where the problems exist are much more accurate than a touchstone when there is a problem.
Give us the title & author, plus any other information you think we might need.

Then you can just wait, "and someone will be with you shortly."
________________________________________...

Tim's Guidelines for Proper Etiquette for contacting members about their book records:

"For this topic, I still feel strongly that I'd like to consider it bad form. Many others agree with me. But a few thing I'm dictating and are angry about that. So, fine. Let's just write some guidelines up. I propose that the guidelines be something along the lines of:

*Remember that LibraryThing is used for many different reasons. The way you use and enjoy the site is not necessarily the way others do.
*Be sensitive to how the member is using LibraryThing. Approach members who show no interest in the social side more cautiously.
*Try to provide helpful information and ask questions rather than dictating.
*If the user indicates displeasure at the request, let it drop.
*When in doubt, raise the issue in the Combiners! group before sending a message."
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Portia's note: I would like to add that we should ALWAYS use private comment when we absolutely must contact a LT'er, even when their response isn't private.

and yes, this thread is similar to putting all of our problems together for people to see & say, "oh, no!! LT isn't perfect!!" or "Look at all of the problems that LT has." That isn't the case here. This is a place to gather "challenges" together to make it easier & faster to "fix" them. Let's just remember that "bad" data comes from people... people who make mistakes.. WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES! (ok, there are a couple of perfect people around here) Instead of complaining about the problem, let's fix it.
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When this thread reaches approximately 200 posts, DO NOT POST HERE, but go to POST #24. This thread will be easier to handle if we keep it under 200. (faster loading) Please copy any notes or instructions to the new thread.
Thank you.

Feel free to add comments &/or suggestions... not just "challenges"

**There is also a Combiner's Group Information, FAQ & Discussion Thread #2 at:
http://www.librarything.com/topic/57164
That thread is for combining information, discussion in general, not for problems....

**The wiki page is here:
http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/Book_combining

2souloftherose
May 6, 2010, 2:08 pm

Could someone cleverer than me please combine the following works please?

http://www.librarything.com/work/293779
http://www.librarything.com/work/5791739

I tried EveleenM's method from the last thread but couldn't get it to work..

Thank you!

3Felagund
May 6, 2010, 2:35 pm

>2 souloftherose:
Done.

And for those of you with pending requests, don't worry about the bunch that concluded thread #23... we'll take care of them eventually ;-)

5stortemelk
May 7, 2010, 4:13 am

>236 (old thread) done

6Tallulah_Rose
May 7, 2010, 1:11 pm

Could you please combine this one:
http://www.librarything.de/work/1952176
http://www.librarything.de/work/3890259 (no author here)

Thank you very much!

7foggidawn
May 7, 2010, 2:28 pm

Should this:
http://www.librarything.com/author/jkrowlingmarygrandpr
be combined with J.K. Rowling? ( http://www.librarything.com/author/rowlingjk )
It appears that the author is an odd mashup of Rowling and GranPre (the illustrator of the American editions) -- only Rowling's books are listed under this author, so it would make sense to me to combine them . . . but I am only an occasional combiner and usually stick with the most basic stuff, so I thought I'd leave this question to the "hardcore" combinders!

8EveleenM
Edited: May 7, 2010, 5:47 pm

#7
The usual thing in that case seems to be to combine the works, not the authors, so I'm doing that.

Edited to add:
I couldn't do the last one http://www.librarything.com/work/9904851 - the version of é in that form of Dupré is not showing up in my browser, so I can't match it.

9foggidawn
May 7, 2010, 4:56 pm

#8 -- Thanks, EveleenM.

10Felagund
May 8, 2010, 10:05 am

I think all pending request from thread #23 have been addressed now. If not, don't hesitate to repost them here.

11PhaedraB
May 8, 2010, 11:16 am

12Felagund
May 8, 2010, 12:10 pm

13DemetriosX
May 8, 2010, 2:52 pm

This book

http://www.librarything.com/work/8418515

has been incorrectly attributed to Anne Perry instead of Elizabeth Peters. Can this be fixed by combining it with

http://www.librarything.com/work/5270602

which has the correct information.

14PhaedraB
Edited: May 16, 2010, 11:19 pm

15Porua
May 9, 2010, 6:06 am

I think the following works should be combined,

http://www.librarything.com/work/9909676

http://www.librarything.com/work/9909679

http://www.librarything.com/work/9909682

http://www.librarything.com/work/29502

Also, these two works may need to be combined. But I’m not sure if they contain the same set of plays.

Playboy of Western World & Other Plays

http://www.librarything.com/work/9909670

The Playboy of the Western World and Other Plays: Riders to the Sea; The Shadow of the Glen; The Tinker's Wedding; The W

http://www.librarything.com/work/93578

Sorry if I’m wrong. Thank you in advance.

16Tallulah_Rose
May 9, 2010, 8:35 am

could you please combine:
http://www.librarything.de/work/5402813
http://www.librarything.de/work/5854866/book/54706593

and tell me how to combine books with different authors but not combining the authors? I feel at a loss in that respect.

Thank you in advance!

17paulstalder
May 9, 2010, 10:06 am

>16 Tallulah_Rose:
a cautious question: when looking at the Synonymelexika, I have the impression that they are quite different: for example they have a different number of words explained, and some or with the old rules. I would prefer to leave them uncombined.

Ich denke, die einzelnen Auflagen sind zu verschieden, als dass sie tatsächlich kombiniert werden sollten (verschiedene Anzahl Synonyme, alte und neue Rechtschreibung). Ich will Dir nicht zu nahe treten, aber ich würde die verschiedenen Ausgaben nicht kombinieren. Danke

18Tallulah_Rose
May 9, 2010, 12:03 pm

okay, yeah thank you. It seemed I wasn't aware of that. Nevertheless it's difficult to combine dictionaries isn't it. I think I'll leave them alone. But thank you for your answer.

19EveleenM
Edited: May 9, 2010, 4:35 pm

#15
It looks as if that version of Synge's plays is already wrongly combined:
http://www.librarything.com/work/93578
The Penguin edition seems to have only 3 plays, while the Oxford Classics has 6, so they should really be separated.

Edited to add:
I've separated out the three-play Penguin edition, and combined a number of different works which were all collections of six plays. I left http://www.librarything.com/work/9909670 out of this combination, since the title doesn't name the other plays, and the only match for the ISBN is an edition of the indivdual play The Playboy of the Western World. (Noted this in the disambiguation notice).

20Salmastryon
May 9, 2010, 7:30 pm

21PhaedraB
Edited: May 13, 2010, 6:51 pm

oops, duplicated from Post #14

Here's some works from the John author page:

23PhaedraB
Edited: May 16, 2010, 11:23 pm

And more Johns:

Gillies DONE
Historical Collections of Accounts of Revival
http://www.librarything.com/work/505438
http://www.librarything.com/work/7639498

Eddison DONE
Who Died Why?
http://www.librarything.com/work/7639369
http://www.librarything.com/work/4249817

John F. MacArthur, Jr. DONE
The Convicting Ministry of the Holy Spirit
http://www.librarything.com/work/1457880
http://www.librarything.com/work/7639886

26Porua
May 10, 2010, 3:51 pm

Please combine,

http://www.librarything.com/work/5487874

http://www.librarything.com/work/2837449

Sorry if I’m wrong. Thank you in advance.

29lemontwist
May 12, 2010, 9:37 am

This book is by Eve Ensler, and somehow it comes up under Howard Zinn. I'm not sure what the appropriate way of getting into out of Howard Zinn and into Eve Ensler's name. (It says by Eve Ensler (otherwise under Howard Zinn))

http://www.librarything.com/work/3575319

30jjwilson61
Edited: May 12, 2010, 10:38 am

You can see which books go into a work by clicking on the editions link on the left side of the works page. Doing so shows that most people (38 vs. 8) who have the book in their library have the author as Howard Zinn. If you can find out where the bad data is coming from (probably Amazon) you can ask them to change their data and over time as more people add the correct data it should correct itself.

The odd thing is that only 37 members have the book so there are 9 extra copies floating around. Maybe someone added a lot of duplicates in an effort to change the name?

32Littlemissbashful
Edited: May 12, 2010, 11:52 pm

Just checking re-canonical titles.

I entered Ruso and 'The Root of All Evils' as the UK title and combined with the US title 'Persona Non Grata'

Although by far the most copies are the US title my view of it is showing the UK title as taking precedence

http://www.librarything.com/work/6574324

Someone had already filled in the canonical title field with an entry for BOTH the UK and US titles but since I assume both US and UK viewers will mostly be using the English language site I'm thinking it's coming up with the UK title in the US too.

Maybe removing the secondary canonical title would clear it but I'm not sure if I should do that (it's not as if the entry is wrong)

Not sure if it matters...

33Heather19
May 13, 2010, 5:13 am

Okay, I've been working on Carolyn Keene for three hours straight, it's 2am, and I'm finally tired enough to admit I need help.

Apparently someone has been adding stray editions of other works into CK-works with a lot of members. I've only seen it on books with a lot of members, like Secret of the Old Clock, Scarlet Slipper Mystery, etc.

For example, I've separated about fifteen stray, random editions from Secret of the Old Clock (everything from the Brass-Bound Trunk to Vanishing Veil was combined, but only stray editions, not the bigger ones).

I don't know if I'm making sense, and I'm using abbreviations for the titles 'cause I can't think right now. But if anyone wants to help out I'd much appreciate it.

http://www.librarything.com/combine.php?author=keenecarolyn

34Felagund
Edited: May 13, 2010, 11:21 am

>4 paulstalder:,6,13 (a.k.a. 21)
Done.

35abbottthomas
May 13, 2010, 7:47 am

Jasen / Jansen problems.

By temporarily combining David Jansen with David A. Jasen I was able to shift copies of Tin Pan Alley to Mr Jasen's page where they belong. Separation of David Jansen was successful.

I tried the same trick with this author - http://www.librarything.com/author/jansendavida .
The author of The Uncollected Wodehouse is David A. Jasen. Despite the correctly spelled author having more copies of this work, combining the work sent all to Jansen. I tried separating the original Jansen editions but got a room full of monkeys error.

I suppose I could leave the mis-spelled author combined with David Jasen but, as there is another David Jansen, this seems untidy. Can anyone fix this?

36SimoneA
May 13, 2010, 8:09 am

>33 Heather19:
I have combined a few stray Dutch translations with the original works, using this webpage http://www.nancydrewworld.com/dutch.html. I'd be happy to use this site to combine other translations (e.g. French) at a later time.

37jjwilson61
May 13, 2010, 9:17 am

It seems to me weird that it is possible to have multiple canonical titles and I don't know what should happen when you do. Perhaps this deserves it's own thread in Bug Collectors or Talk About LibraryThing or the CommonKnowledge group as it really isn't a combining problem.

38kathrynnd
May 13, 2010, 12:45 pm

>35 abbottthomas:

Isn't the author of The Uncollected Wodehouse P.G. Wodehouse with David A Jasen as an 'other' author? If so, could somebody please combine and problem solved.

http://www.librarything.com/work/2336168
http://www.librarything.com/work/314287

39sqdancer
May 13, 2010, 1:28 pm

>32 Littlemissbashful:,37
I deleted both Canonicals. It should revert to the "majority" title. I agree that it shouldn't be possible to enter more than one title.

40lorax
May 13, 2010, 1:54 pm

Isn't the "multiple Canonical Titles" usually an artifact of combination?

41abbottthomas
Edited: May 13, 2010, 2:11 pm

38> ......Ermmm! Well, yes ;-)

ETA - Actually, my problem is fixed, either by some self-effacing Combiner or the roomful of monkeys.

42jjwilson61
May 13, 2010, 2:08 pm

40> You must be right since LT doesn't give me the choice to add another second canonical title.

43PhaedraB
Edited: May 16, 2010, 11:25 pm

44AnnieMod
May 13, 2010, 6:58 pm

>40 lorax:, 42

Yes - I always check the canonical title after a combibnation to clear such things. And to remove duplicate (usually not exactly duplicate but the same) entries from other fields in CK.

45theapparatus
Edited: May 13, 2010, 8:24 pm

Thanks to whomever did #31 up there.

edit: I think I submitted this one before but these need to be combined:

http://www.librarything.com/work/3836196/

http://www.librarything.com/work/740061

Thanks again,
-drmike

47MarthaJeanne
Edited: May 15, 2010, 3:53 am

Can anyone figure out why
http://www.librarything.com/work/6477526/60002072
is listed under Neil Beckett? None of the editions show that name, nor does that name show up anywhere in my copy of it.

48karakus
Edited: May 16, 2010, 4:24 am

The author Rolf Dübner exists twice in the database, and I cannot get the entries to combine. See
http://www.librarything.de/author/dbnerrolf
http://www.librarything.de/author/duumlbnerrolf

Also, under series there are six titles, but site search brings up only one when searching for "Dübner"
http://www.librarything.de/series/ARBIT%20Schriftenreihe%20Bitumen%20%2850%29

49noreenj
May 15, 2010, 11:30 pm

There are two William Youngs
http://www.librarything.com/author/youngwilliam

William P. Young is a Canadian author who wrote "The Shack" a novel. He was born in 1955.

William Young (Composer)

Lived from 1610-1662. I have one of William Young's(Composer) volumes needs to be separated from the works of the author.

I've forgotten how to do this. Thanks for reminding.

50MarthaJeanne
Edited: May 16, 2010, 3:12 am

Over on the right, under Author Disambiguation is the link to 'split this author'.

BTW I doubt that there are only two authors there.

51MarthaJeanne
Edited: May 16, 2010, 3:30 am

I got up to 8 different William Youngs. There are still several unknowns.

ETA And the author of 'The Shack' has now left this page to be only on the William P Young page.

52StrawberryPeep3737
May 16, 2010, 4:23 am

i can't do it i m not smart enough

53Noisy
Edited: May 19, 2010, 8:18 am

>47 MarthaJeanne:

Neil Beckett problem. Hmmm. Looks like it's tied up with the author Universe, somehow.

http://www.librarything.com/author/beckettneil&norefer=1

Touchstones: Neil Beckett

ETA: I've emailed Tim about this now.

54theapparatus
Edited: May 16, 2010, 11:18 am

Someone please fix this book:

http://www.librarything.com/work/342266/

Somehow The Iron Thorn by Algis Budrys has become combined with A Dictionary of the Bible (Oxford Paperback Reference) by W. R. F. Browning.

The Iron Thorn should be this one:

http://www.librarything.com/work/323700

{humour}Now I know some folks look down on us Science Fictions readers but gotta admit that this is taking it too far.{/humour}

Thanks,
-drmike

edit: The title appears under the author's page as well and fairly highly ranked:

http://www.librarything.com/author/budrysalgis

I don;t see the Browning name listed under his "Also known as" bit though.

reedit: These titles need to be combined as well:

http://www.librarything.com/work/90250/

http://www.librarything.com/work/3661925/

The author merged on the first one too please.

55Felagund
Edited: May 16, 2010, 12:45 pm

>23 PhaedraB:, 24, 54
Done.

56DemetriosX
May 16, 2010, 1:42 pm

Here is an extremely complicated author combination that I'm guessing is impossible until the whole homonymous author thing gets worked out. But I'll toss it out there just in case.

Paul Doherty (1) is the same person as P.C. Doherty (http://www.librarything.com/author/dohertypc). Is there some sort of complicated combining and separating process that would allow Paul Doherty (1)'s books to wind up under PC? Probably not, but I figure it can't hurt to ask.

57jjwilson61
May 16, 2010, 4:04 pm

First of all, all the works need to be combined. Has that been done? Then it may be possible to float each work to P.C. Doherty if there aren't way more Paul's than P.C.'s among the editions.

58kathrynnd
May 16, 2010, 4:14 pm

>51 MarthaJeanne: -- The Shack is back on the William Young author page

What I don't understand is how it got there in the first place. If you look at the editions page fewer than 20 copies have been entered with William Young as author. a pittance really.

I was able to move it off the William page last night by separating the copies entered with the single surname Young ( and then combining them back again to the work now listed properly under William P. Young on that page. I just tried this again, let's see what happened.

59wademlee
May 16, 2010, 4:22 pm

Same book, listed under editor:
http://www.librarything.com/work/6525886
And the author of the forward:
http://www.librarything.com/work/2011692

Can't combine from the editions page... can you kindly combine?

60abbottthomas
Edited: May 16, 2010, 4:39 pm

>59 wademlee: Done, but it has to stay with Gavin rather than Amy as he has a significant majority of copies.

ETA Done by temporarily combining the two authors, combining the works and then separating the authors again. This process is easy when both authors have few works.

61DemetriosX
May 16, 2010, 6:35 pm

>57 jjwilson61: Unfortunately, that won't work. Doherty has like 50 pen names, one of which is Paul Doherty. Those he has written under that name appear only under that name; the rest of his pen names appear to have been combined with the P.C. name being canonical. There are no works to combine. I'm afraid this will have to wait until there is a way to deal with several authors of the same name.

65theapparatus
May 17, 2010, 9:01 am

Re: 54: Thanks but there are some incorrect covers still being shown on this one:

http://www.librarything.com/work/342266/

Is that something that needs to be fixed or do we hope users will see that?

edit: May also want to remove the fiction and science fiction tags as well before someone more vocal than me sees them. :)

66jjwilson61
Edited: May 17, 2010, 9:54 am

The tags come from what people have used in their own catalogs and no one can change what is in another's catalog.

ETA: After a combination or separation it sometimes takes a day or two for the covers to settle down to the right ones.

67theapparatus
Edited: May 17, 2010, 10:14 am

Thanks. I assumed that but didn't know if an admin could overwrite. Would hate to see a "How dare you call the bible fiction!" thread. :(

Anyway...

http://www.librarything.com/author/martinalan

Author #1 and the Unknown one are the same. This author needs to be combined into that record as well:

http://www.librarything.com/author/martinalanc

Thanks,
-drmike

edit: Please combine:

http://www.librarything.com/work/5995244/

http://www.librarything.com/work/1886899/

reedit: This author's last name is spelled incorrectly as it;s missing the 'l':

http://www.librarything.com/author/wilhemkate

It's actually this author:

http://www.librarything.com/author/wilhelmkate

For reference, take a look at the cover of this book:

http://www.librarything.com/work/5314059/

68abbottthomas
May 17, 2010, 10:32 am

>67 theapparatus: I've done the very first part of your requests. Combining the two Tank Girl author pages is beyond me (without including the radiation author).

69theapparatus
May 17, 2010, 10:48 am

Thanks. Hopefully someone can make sense of that.

Please combine:

http://www.librarything.com/work/4175248

http://www.librarything.com/work/1926289

70theapparatus
May 17, 2010, 5:09 pm

75sarahemmm
May 18, 2010, 5:18 am

I had to enter this book manually as I couldn't find a valid match when I went to add it:

http://www.librarything.com/work/9933870/book/60003392

It needs to be combined with:

http://www.librarything.com/work/6162710

but I don't know how to do that when no combinations are offered, so... help!

76stortemelk
May 18, 2010, 5:51 am

> 75: done

If there's no proposed combinations on the editions page, but the author is the same on both works, you can combine from the author page. Look for the combine/separarte works link (small writing) on the top right.

77EveleenM
Edited: May 18, 2010, 7:01 am

I'll do #74. (Saying so here because it's a longer one.)

Okay, #74 is finished.

78stortemelk
May 18, 2010, 6:33 am

> 73: The first one is only a zero copy work that I think someone created just to show up on the series page when there weren't any real copies in LT yet (the same still applies to the fourth book in the series). Where I'd normally just leave zero copy works uncombined, I will do the combining on this one so it's CK info will be 'transferred' to the real copies. Off to do that now.

79stortemelk
May 18, 2010, 6:49 am

> 73: Hmm, that didn't work as planned. Ended up just copying the CK to the second work.

80sarahemmm
May 18, 2010, 7:40 am

> 76, 75: Thank you stortemelk!

I thought I would have a go at another, but this one has no author!

http://www.librarything.com/work/3776881/book/20276818

There are various other copies, but I'm not sure whether all the different editions are really the same. I know that this one (which was my grandmother's) is not quite the same as the one my mother owns, which is a few years younger.

82EveleenM
Edited: May 18, 2010, 10:28 am

Okay, I'll do 81 as well - finished now!

83stortemelk
May 18, 2010, 10:21 am

> 82: the 'Thank you!' in 81 was meant for you.

84andejons
May 18, 2010, 10:56 am

Yes, didn't mean to imply you would also have to do the second set (but thanks for those as well!)

86r.orrison
May 18, 2010, 1:24 pm

85: Done

87JamesBoswell
May 18, 2010, 8:42 pm

James Boswell and Thomas Jefferson share this work; can it be combined?

http://www.librarything.com/work/3946068/book/21288793
and
http://www.librarything.com/work/9950492/book/60154176

88eromsted
May 18, 2010, 10:45 pm

89theapparatus
May 19, 2010, 9:18 am

*sigh*

Please combine:

http://www.librarything.com/work/1538960/

http://www.librarything.com/work/9952444/

Some lovely person added this ISBN under a different gaming system. I tried to separate them and add it in via it's ISBN but it created a new book instead of placing it under the previous one.

Thanks,
-drmike

90r.orrison
May 19, 2010, 9:23 am

89: Done

91theapparatus
May 19, 2010, 9:26 am

Thanks.

Strange. We lost our covers.

92PhaedraB
Edited: May 24, 2010, 3:41 pm

93PhaedraB
Edited: May 20, 2010, 11:50 pm

And more:

John Piper DONE
Let the Nations Be Glad! The Supremacy of God in Missions
http://www.librarything.com/work/62865
http://www.librarything.com/work/7640201

John Varley DONE
The Persistance of Vision (UK Title: In The Hall of The Martian Kings)
http://www.librarything.com/work/94156
http://www.librarything.com/work/9779457

94theapparatus
Edited: May 20, 2010, 9:52 am

Greets again:

It's the reference screen that won't die! ;)

Here's the one from the previous combine:

http://www.librarything.com/work/9952444

The correct author is Tom Moldvay. It is not TSR Hobbies. That's the publisher. Can that be corrected? I've done so on my work record but I get the "otherwise under" error.

http://www.librarything.com/work/9952444/book/60168172

These need to be combined into it:

http://www.librarything.com/work/9850117

http://www.librarything.com/work/3937639

Please note the second one there is another one showing it as Gamma World as the problem up above. The ISBN for the 1st edition ISBN Gamma World Reference Screen is 0935696784. The Boot Hill ISBN is 0935696776. At least my copies have them. Scans available upon request.

Thanks,
-drmike

95jjwilson61
May 20, 2010, 10:33 am

The fact that everyone but you has listed the publisher as the author is not a LibraryThing error.

96r.orrison
May 20, 2010, 11:23 am

"Otherwise under" isn't an error, it's just showing the author that most other users have entered in their catalog.

I've combined the first one (http://www.librarything.com/work/9850117), but not the second, as I think it is intended to be Gamma World and they've used the wrong ISBN.

In fact, I separated the second from itself, and it split into
http://www.librarything.com/work/3937639 with 0 copies, and
http://www.librarything.com/work/9957041

and I've combined the latter into
http://www.librarything.com/work/6284153

97bell7
May 20, 2010, 6:02 pm

>93 PhaedraB: I finished the first one. I'm not sure why, but every time I try to add a book to fix the 2nd, it automatically adds the first-name only to the John Varley title. Anyone else want to take a crack at it?

98r.orrison
May 20, 2010, 6:11 pm

93: Done. It was showing 2 members, but only 1 copy in Editions, so I split it off from itself. The second work listed now goes to a 0-copy work; I've combined the real copy in where it belongs.

100r.orrison
May 21, 2010, 2:28 am

99: Done.

103PhaedraB
Edited: May 25, 2010, 9:20 am

105lilithcat
May 21, 2010, 11:32 pm

> 100

Thank you! Merci! Gracias! Grazie!

107MarthaJeanne
May 23, 2010, 6:57 am

Is there any way short of canonical name to make this author stop showing in caps?

http://www.librarything.com/author/johnstonbecky

108Felagund
May 23, 2010, 9:30 am

>25 paulstalder:, 26
Done.
Lots of catching up to do, though...

109r.orrison
Edited: May 23, 2010, 11:00 am

101, 102: Done

111PhaedraB
May 23, 2010, 5:36 pm

#109, Thank you!

I've got a few old ones way above I don't want to get lost:

Posts 63, 64, 92

112r.orrison
Edited: May 23, 2010, 6:34 pm

63, 64: Done

113theapparatus
May 23, 2010, 6:28 pm

Greets:

I believe these are the same books:

http://www.librarything.com/work/624116
http://www.librarything.com/work/9023974

Thanks,
-drmike

114r.orrison
May 23, 2010, 6:37 pm

Those were easily combined from the author's combine/separate page.

115theapparatus
May 23, 2010, 6:57 pm

Re: 114: Rather have someone verify that what I;m looking at should be combined. Too easy to make a mistake with these records that would affect other folks. If you flip though my previous mistakes, you'll note that some folks have caught stuff that I have missed.

Thanks though for your time.

117Felagund
May 24, 2010, 2:27 am

>27 paulstalder:, 28, 45, 46
Done.

118r.orrison
May 24, 2010, 6:53 am

92: Done

119DemetriosX
May 24, 2010, 7:45 am

These two books need to be combined:

http://www.librarything.com/work/5868692/
http://www.librarything.com/work/3331045

For some reason, the first one isn't appearing on the author's page.

120r.orrison
May 24, 2010, 9:08 am

119: Combined from the Editions page on the first work.

121DemetriosX
May 24, 2010, 9:31 am

122r.orrison
Edited: May 24, 2010, 2:48 pm

121: Done.
116: Done, except that I haven't combined Foxe's Annals of Christian Martyrs and Annals of Martyrs. They're both on John Foxe's page, so you can combine them yourself if you're sure they are the same.
110: Done. The Pilgrim God is currently showing 3 members, including me, since I had to add one to get it on John of Taize's page. I have deleted mine, so hopefully it will sort itself out eventually. (now at http://www.librarything.com/work/9970433)
106: Done.

123PhaedraB
May 24, 2010, 3:40 pm

Thanks!

The "John" page is shrinking nicely :-)

125r.orrison
Edited: May 25, 2010, 8:52 am

103, 104: Done
106: Done, really.
124: Done
67: Girl who Fell into the Sky - Done
38: Uncollected Wodehouse - Done (ended up on Wodehouse's page)

127theapparatus
Edited: May 25, 2010, 10:32 am

Going to start calling you Johnboy. :)

Please combine:

http://www.librarything.com/work/1987496/
http://www.librarything.com/work/21350/

Thanks,
-drmike

edit: Dang, I looked at the Mike page.

These should be combined:

http://www.librarything.com/author/mikejanm
http://www.librarything.com/author/mikeretoldbyjanm

and this title should be assign to that author:

http://www.librarything.com/work/1759527

128r.orrison
Edited: May 25, 2010, 4:13 pm

127: Done, and picked up a few more copies of The Two Georges. Combined the Jan M. Mikes, but 25 people have cataloged Opossum and the Great Firemaker with just "Mike" as the author, compared to only 11 who have cataloged it by "Jan M. Mike" - it's hard to fight those odds.
126: Done

129abbottthomas
May 25, 2010, 7:06 pm

This - http://www.librarything.com/work/7733587
And this - http://www.librarything.com/work/682185
are the same. Could someone combine them under Larsson.
And, while you are there, Bjorn Larsson has one of Steig Larsson’s books on his page which needs shifting. Thanks in anticipation ;-)

131theapparatus
Edited: May 26, 2010, 9:19 am

Re: 127: Actually that's how it's cataloged with Amazon. The author is listed as Mike:

Mike: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0816730563/ref=nosim/librarythin08-20

Jan M. Mike: http://www.amazon.com/Opossum-Great-Firemaker-Mexican-Legends/dp/0816730555

edit:

Please combine these authors:

http://www.librarything.com/author/keithwilliam
http://www.librarything.com/author/williamhkeith

With this one:

http://www.librarything.com/author/douglasian

As noted in the notes for that author.

Thanks,
-drmike

edit: Just reread those notes:

http://www.librarything.com/author/keithwilliam

William Keith #1 with the title of Renegade's Honor is the same as douglasian. The British plantation author is a different one. If you look at the cover, you'll see the correct name listed along the bottom:

http://www.librarything.com/work/383786

132theapparatus
May 26, 2010, 9:27 am

Those pesky fairies are causing trouble:

Please combine:

http://www.librarything.com/work/3945245
http://www.librarything.com/work/2454897
http://www.librarything.com/work/2305229

As well as:

http://www.librarything.com/work/2454880
http://www.librarything.com/work/9803148

And watch yourself next time you walk through that field of flowers. ;)

Thanks,
-drmike

133DemetriosX
May 26, 2010, 10:32 am

134theapparatus
Edited: May 26, 2010, 1:30 pm

Greets:

You'll be happy to know that I just sat down and figured how how to do this on my own. :)

Thanks again,
-drmike

edit: At least for the ones that the system is picking up as potential dupes. Still haven;t figured out how to do it for the ones that I see as dupes but the system does not.

reedit: I got my Fairy Meat one up there. If anyone has a suggestion on how to add an author to a record where the Add Books selection won;t pick up the specific title where you;re trying to add an author onto, I'd love to hear it.

135AnnieMod
May 26, 2010, 4:11 pm

>reedit: I got my Fairy Meat one up there. If anyone has a suggestion on how to add an author to a record where the Add Books selection won;t pick up the specific title where you;re trying to add an author onto, I'd love to hear it.

Huh? Can you repeat that question (with an example if possible)?

136theapparatus
Edited: May 26, 2010, 5:50 pm

Thanks:

Let me put it another way. How would one combine these two:

http://www.librarything.com/work/3945245
http://www.librarything.com/work/2305229

I'm throwing up my hands on this one as well:

Top Secret 1st edition Boxed Set. ISBN 0935696164 Author: Merle Rasmussen

Rapid Strike Module ISBN 0935696571 Author: Mike Carr

Bother were listed together as this work:

http://www.librarything.com/work/386454/

Completely different. I tried to separate and correct but the the system is still showing it as the boxed set. Copies are available upon request.

edit: It's affecting the series as well.

137MarthaJeanne
May 27, 2010, 2:48 am

If you look at the author's combine/separate page, you will see that there are several ghost copies still in there that are affecting the work title. I would separate out the two real copies and recombine them so that they have their own work. (Not done yet so that you can see it.)

If the work title doesn't match the books, this is usually the problem. Ghost copies don't show up on the editions page.

138theapparatus
May 27, 2010, 9:34 am

I tried that again. 0935696571 still comes up as the boxed set when I go into Add Books and search via ISBN.

139sqdancer
Edited: May 27, 2010, 2:33 pm

comes up as the boxed set when I go into Add Books and search via ISBN.

Try using a different source for your search.

ETA: If you were using amazon as a source, you might want to submit a correction to them. I think there is some sort of mechanism on their site for reporting errors in their data.

140theapparatus
Edited: May 27, 2010, 3:33 pm

Unfortunately it appears to be an issue elsewhere as well:

http://www.alibris.com/search/books/isbn/0935696571

And is it me or has Amazon removed it;s search box from their site?

edit: Amazon does have the wrong cover up:

http://www.amazon.com/Top-secret-espionage-role-playing/dp/0935696571

The green cover with the scuba drives is the module. The boxed set is a red cover with a picture of a pistol and some leg.

141andejons
May 28, 2010, 3:18 am

Can someone please combine the following?
http://www.librarything.com/work/6507664
http://www.librarything.com/work/6612550

The first is assigned to an author name somehow "no longer in the system"...

142kathrynnd
May 28, 2010, 3:20 am

I'm not certain if this is a combining or a separating problem. I was splitting the author Richard Fox when I happened to notice that one of the combined authors on the page must really be Richard Wightman Fox which I finally clued onto by looking at the author address:

http://www.librarything.com/author/foxrichardwightman

I was confused when doing the splitting why all these Richard Wightman Fox works in #1 ended on the Richard Fox page in the first place, as very few copies were entered as by Richard Fox. (See for example work/606654/editions). Now I know why, but how did this happen? Could some eager work combiner do this?

I didn't see any sign that a Canonical author has been set, but I may have missed it. Can anyone help fix this?

143r.orrison
Edited: May 28, 2010, 8:20 am

If you do View History in the CK section, someone entered a Canonical Name of "Fox, Richard" on the Dutch site. I would separate the versions of the author's name, log in to the dutch site (www.librarything.nl, same username and password), fix the Canonical Name, and then recombine as appropriate.

Edited to add: let me know if you'd like me to do it, I didn't want to step on your toes if you were still working on the author.

144r.orrison
Edited: May 28, 2010, 8:19 am

141: Done. I separated the first from itself, which got it away from the bogus author, then was able to combine from the author's page.
I wasn't sure if http://www.librarything.com/work/9985549 and http://www.librarything.com/work/6612550 should be combined. If so, it can be done from the author's combine/separate page.

145kathrynnd
May 28, 2010, 3:05 pm

143: Thank you rorrison. I never thought to look in View History for a Canonical Name before combining the two Richard Fox names. I combine identical names all the time when working on authors. I'll be more suspicious in the future, especially when the majority author name on one of the works doesn't end up on the author page expected.

I was able to log into the Dutch site, with your help, and make the Canonical Name change. Thank you for this too as it is the first time I've tried something like this.

149MarthaJeanne
May 30, 2010, 12:59 pm

151bookel
Edited: May 30, 2010, 9:52 pm

I'm trying to find Ride to Win http://www.librarything.com/work/4669441/46508211
It says it is on the author page, but I can't see it http://www.librarything.com/author/steenwykelizabethvan
, and I'm supposed to have 3 books listed by that author, not 2. Help please? I couldn't find any other author pages to combine...

And another query, where is this book http://www.librarything.com/work/4331442
Susan, Bill and the Wolf-Dog by Malcolm Saville, on the author page? http://www.librarything.com/author/savillemalcolm

153Noisy
May 31, 2010, 4:57 am

>151 bookel:

Sorted - they now appear. For one, all I had to do was remove the zero-copy works, and then it appeared. The other was a case of removing a copy and then combining it back in.

156bookel
Jun 1, 2010, 1:54 am

As proved by this page: http://www.margaretclark.com/booklist.htm
Lucky Last Luke (Supa Doopers) and The mystery of the talking tail are by the Australian author MARGARET D. CLARK http://www.librarything.com/author/clarkmd, not Margaret Goff Clark http://www.librarything.com/author/clarkmargaretgoff

Disambiguation notes were put on ages ago, but someone has gone and put them on the wrong page again. :/
Someone please rectify this? Thanks!

157EveleenM
Jun 1, 2010, 5:17 am

#156
The problem seems to be that amazon.com and amazon.co.uk (for Lucky Last Luke) and amazon.co.uk (for the Mystery of the Talking Tail) have the incorrect author, so any new owner adding the books from those sources will pull the books back onto the Margaret Goff Clark page. There's a way of pointing this out to amazon to get them to change it, but I'm not sure what evidence you have to use to get it to work. With any luck, some more knowledgeable combiner should be along soon.

158dwesner
Jun 1, 2010, 6:54 am

I'm showing http://www.librarything.com/work/9998965/book/60623287 as the same work as http://www.librarything.com/work/9998965/book/60623270 but they're totally different books. Either I'm really confused, or could someone please separate them?

Thanks.

159Eat_Read_Knit
Edited: Jun 1, 2010, 7:09 am

#158 That's part of a wider problem where many (all?) books added or edited are defaulting to/combining with this book. Not sure what's happening exactly, but it's very widespread.

See also here, here and here.

160Eat_Read_Knit
Jun 1, 2010, 11:59 am

162Tallulah_Rose
Jun 1, 2010, 2:38 pm

As far as I know and understand things, agridged (audio) versions should not be combined with the proper work, is that right?

If so, could you please insert a note here: http://www.librarything.de/work/book/60130553
that this is the abridged audio version and should therefore not be combined with the other ones (http://www.librarything.de/work/1014691)? I don't know if I caught all the abridged ones, is isn't very likely, but it's a start.

Thanks in advance!

164dwesner
Jun 1, 2010, 11:28 pm

This rocks. Thank you.

166Gizmex
Jun 2, 2010, 4:36 am

Hello
Couldn't find how to correct work title. I've made a mistake during work submission, is it possible to correct this? Or at last is it possible to delete this work I'll submit it again. Thnks
http://pl.librarything.com/work/10002296/details/60653407

167stortemelk
Jun 2, 2010, 5:08 am

> 166 It was a matter of separating out the wrong title copy (which you'd already deleted from your library, so it was just an empty title remaining). Did this through the editions page (bottom link on the left of the work page).

168theapparatus
Edited: Jun 2, 2010, 8:59 am

Actually I'm going to echo juglicerr's and my own request from up above as this here is a perfect example of where I'm scratching my head:

http://www.librarything.com/work/1023697
http://www.librarything.com/work/3682825

Now looking at that, I would combine the authors, Collectif into Miriam Grace Monfredo, and then combine works from the author's combine page. (In all honesty, I don;t see where "Collectif" comes into the picture) Is that right or wrong or is there a better way to do it?

As a personal aside, both records have the same ISBN number. I gather the Editions page doesn't check against ISBN repeats. It would be a plus if it did.

Thanks,
-drmike

edit: Actually looking at the Collectif author, I don;t have a clue as to what's going on there. There is a number of authors listed though where other folks have done combines:

http://www.librarything.com/author/collectif

169stortemelk
Jun 2, 2010, 9:02 am

> 168 It's the French way of saying multiple/various authors

170stortemelk
Jun 2, 2010, 9:17 am

> 163, 165, 168

At the top of this thread are links to methods for combining works with different/no authors, without combining the authors. I found AnnieMod's to be the most usefull. Still not entirely straightforward though...

171theapparatus
Edited: Jun 2, 2010, 10:20 am

@stortemelk, please note who copied and pasted the first post in this thread. :)

I get hung up on Step #2 when I try to manually add in. For me, it usually adds in a new record and we now have three records that need to be combined. Must be missed a field in there somewhere but I am careful.

edit: Could someone please take Keith Douglas #2 and add those three books into Keith Douglass? The correct spelling is with the extra s at the end. You can see that on the book covers:

http://www.librarything.com/author/douglaskeith
http://www.librarything.com/author/douglasskeith

I'm looking at the Seal Team Seven novels, not the poetry.

Thanks,
-drmike

172stortemelk
Jun 2, 2010, 10:35 am

> 171 ah... now noted :-)

When that happens to me: ** 'no other members' :-( ** , I don't bother with trying to correct; I just delete my copy and try again. It's usually the author field that makes the problem: the edition that you're copy/pasting had the author entered first name-last name, instead of the other way round. Also, Dutch 'van der' names and the likes, are notorious for having their comma in unexpected places. I often (with singletons) go into an owner's catalogue to check how they've done it.

173theapparatus
Jun 2, 2010, 10:39 am

Greets:

Someone may want to take a look at the 20k Leagues Under the Sea. I read the Disambiguation Notice about leaving out the children's and annotated versions but yet the default image is for the Scholastic Classics version and I see a number of annotated versions in the Editions page.

http://www.librarything.com/work/32715

I don;t know about the title (OK, I watched the Scooby Doo version.) to take that one on.

Thanks,
-drmike

174stortemelk
Jun 2, 2010, 10:42 am

> 171 edited: hmm, floating of works to a different author. That I can't do.

175PuddinTame
Edited: Jun 2, 2010, 1:31 pm

> 170. Thanks for pointing that out. I've gotten one book combined. I'll have to see if there is a thread about cataloging anthologies, because that is where a lot of the trouble is coming from.

176kathrynnd
Edited: Jun 2, 2010, 2:06 pm

173 re: the Scholastic Classics version of 20k Leagues Under the Sea. I searched for the ISBN 0439227151 on WorldCat, this Scholastic Classics version has 426 p. and has an introduction by Alex Colville? (short term memory not working), so this edition most likely belongs with the main work.

LT is planning to add more publication information such as page numbering on book entry, so separating out picture books from full text works should be easier in the future.

ETA: this page does still need work though, I just separated out the Fast Trak Classic edition (ISBN 0237526883) which is a retelling of the story by Pauline Francis and has 48 p. This information was also found out by searching for the ISBN on WorldCat.

http://www.librarything.com/work/32715

177bookel
Jun 2, 2010, 6:23 pm

See post 156, http://www.librarything.com/work/9998963 Lucky Last Luke still needs moving to the Margaret D. Clark page. This has been fixed before and I thought amazon listings had been corrected. http://www.margaretclark.com/booklist.htm That is Margaret D. Clark's website, by the way (official author's website). Seems proof enough.

178bookel
Edited: Jun 4, 2010, 11:00 pm

Hopefully someone has more time than I have to sort this out too please? (I feel like screaming, like in an hilarious I Dream of Jeannie episode I just watched guest starring Jim Backus, arrrrgh!). Thanks in advance. There should be 81 books on Lynn Hall's page: http://www.librarything.com/author/halllynn
The three missing are on the Hall page: http://www.librarything.com/author/hall&norefer=1
which are:
The Secret Life of Dagmar Schultz http://www.librarything.com/work/4068177
Dagmar Schultz and the powers of darkness http://www.librarything.com/work/4068168

Thanks, Danger Dog still needs sorting. I've submitted corrections to Amazon.

Danger Dog http://www.librarything.com/work/493914

181theapparatus
Jun 4, 2010, 8:54 pm

I have about 5 minutes of access time left for the night. Just came across this:

http://www.librarything.com/author/dixon

All those Dixon's listed with Casefile in the book titles are probably Franklin W. Dixon. I say probably as there are some who say he didn't write all of those. But they probably should be taken out of Dixon and dropped into the Franklin W. author.

http://www.librarything.com/author/dixonfranklinw

Thanks,
-drmike

edit: I'll take a shot at them tomorrow if no one has the time tonight.

183r.orrison
Jun 5, 2010, 2:53 am

179: Done
180: Done (A Happy Death was already done)
182: Done

184Felagund
Edited: Jun 5, 2010, 4:11 am

>146 shmjay:, 147, 150, 152, 154, 155
Done

185agneson9
Jun 5, 2010, 1:34 pm

186theapparatus
Edited: Jun 5, 2010, 2:16 pm

>185 agneson9: Ooo, I get to do one for someone else. Wait a minute. :)

edit: OK, I can;t do anything with this one since it has zero books attached to it:

http://www.librarything.com/work/10015993

This one is the Australia paperback version:

http://www.librarything.com/work/10016006

And this one is a mix of ISBNs with both a hard cover and a paperback version under the same work number. I;m assuming US versions here.

http://www.librarything.com/work/8946407

I'm going to go ahead and merge these since there's already a paperback version inm the main work record.

If I did something wrong, please let me know.

187oregonobsessionz
Jun 5, 2010, 4:11 pm

While flagging spammers, I found an author named "Frank" with several spam works and an assortment of stranded titles from authors with incomplete names. I was going to split the author to isolate the spam, but this author also had quite a few copies of Diary of a Young Girl. I separated out the Anne Frank copies from the "Frank" copies, which allowed most of them to float over to the correct author. However, the numerous disambiguation notices left me reluctant to combine the freed copies. I will leave that to someone more familiar with the various versions.

190abbottthomas
Edited: Jun 6, 2010, 6:35 pm

#189 Done
#188 second pair done

191kristenn
Edited: Jun 6, 2010, 12:02 pm

Any chance of splitting Wendy & Richard Pini (http://www.librarything.com/author/piniwendyrichard) into their individual components?

Dealing with their works is a separate headache entirely.

Edit: These belong under Wendy Pini as well. http://www.librarything.com/author/elfquest

thanks!

192theapparatus
Jun 7, 2010, 7:47 am

The Pini's have done stuff apart from one another? What are you trying to do? Give me a heart attack? :)

I know the Weis Hickman material is mostly under Weis with Hickman listed as a second author. Maybe that would be the way to go. Are one of them more involved over the other? (I haven't read ElfQuest in years.)

193varielle
Jun 7, 2010, 12:18 pm

I have a little book of naughty poetry from the 1930s put out by Peter Pauper Press called An Uncensored Anthology. There appears to be 11 copies on LT, and 5 or 6 versions of those that I've looked at combining, but they are uncooperative and I certainly don't want to make a mess of it. Could one of you kind, experienced combiners take a look and maybe give it a go?

195theapparatus
Edited: Jun 10, 2010, 2:31 pm

There looks like more on the George Anson's author's page as well:

http://www.librarything.com/author/ansongeorge

I;m not familiar with the title so I would prefer someone else deal with this. I see some editions with Introductions and other added content so I;m not sure if this should be combined or not.

edit: No kids versions right off though.

197Tallulah_Rose
Jun 11, 2010, 1:48 pm

Here is something going wrong:

When I go onto the author page of Stephen King (http://www.librarything.de/author/kingstephen)) there are two "Salem's Lot". The first one (5681 copies, 57 reviews currently) is actually "Wizard and Glass" and this also shows when you on the actual page of the book: http://www.librarything.de/work/9597161
I have already seperated the copies named "Salem's Lot" in there but it still says that the book is called "Salem's Lot" on the author page. Can you fix it someway (or should I try to explain things better?)
Thanks in advance!

198sqdancer
Jun 11, 2010, 2:07 pm

>197 Tallulah_Rose:

I think I see the problem, on the .de site someone had set the canonical title to "Brennen muß Salem". You should be able to fix the problem on the .de site (it's ok on the .com site) by changing the canonical title. I would do it, but I have no languages other than English and a bit of French and I'm afraid I'd mess it up more.

199Tallulah_Rose
Jun 11, 2010, 4:29 pm

Ah okay thanks. I would never have thought of that, I try it out.

200theapparatus
Edited: Jun 12, 2010, 10:31 am

I started thread #25. I believe we should start posting there:

http://www.librarything.com/topic/92822

I hope that was ok.

As an aside, looking at those Visual Surgical guides, I'm surprised that the Potential work combinations feature doesn't check against ISBN number. Granted I know some publishers reuse ISBNs (*cough* Random House *cough*) but most don't.